Bros & Shows - Luau Drama and Luis' pajamas... (VPRs10ep07, RHOMreunion2, SumHouses07ep06, RHONJs13ep07)

Episode Date: March 24, 2023

Sup Bros? We are back with a packed episode this week as the Scandoval drama continues to heat up on Vanderpump. A pool party gets awkward when Katie won't give up her room to Scheana and Raquel takes a stand agains Lala. Ariana and Katie are making progress with the sandwich shop while the Tom's still cant open... In Miami, we get part two of the reunion which is a whole lot of screaming and a lot of questionable statements from Larsa... such as telling Dr. Nicole that Larsa has real jobs unlinke her... In Summer House, Carl and Kyle have a deep convo in 70s attire while tensions begin to rise between Danielle and Lindsay. Finally in Jersey we check in with Jen and a checked out Bill. Rachel Fuda talks some smack against fellow newbie Danielle, and Luis is wearing his dead father in-laws pajamas. All that and more! TIME STAMPS: VPR (16:00) RHOM (40:25) Summer House (54:21) RHONJ (1:12.28) This episode is brought to you by Care/of. Head to takecareof.com and take a brief quiz to get vitamins and supplements tailored specifically for you! And to get 50% off you first Care/of order, go to takecareof.com and enter code bravbros50. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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There's a drive in a deep left field by Castellanos. Oh, man, it's 8 o'clock. And so that'll make it a... I don't need the spotlight. I shine just fine. Hi, I'm karma. And yes, I am a bitch. Brov Bros.

Good evening, everybody, and welcome back to another episode of Brav Bros. Your favorite podcast from the Bros for everybody, for whoever wants to listen. I am your co-host, Steele Russell, joined as always by the one and only shooter Magouter. Shoots, what's up, dude? Not a, well, actually, yes, a whole lot. We had an eventful week for the podcast, had a nice little interview today that we will tease later. You don't want to tease it now. I think we're supposed to get better.

There's so much stress and, like, pressure on, like, doing everything up front that now I'm like, I kind of want to, like, save a little bit of nuggets for later, you know, see how that goes. But, yeah, no, I mean, we had a good day. We talked to a Bravo celebrity, and we're just trying to branch out. You know, getting the word out about the brab bros, we want people to come on the show to give to you guys, the listeners, because we're not really pulling any punches. You know, if your show sucks, we're going to tell you your show sucks, and there's your hint right there. Well, that's actually kind of how it happened, because this certain person that came on the show today had something to say about a video that we posted. We're really glad he did because it was a wonderful interview.

He's a wonderful guy, and we'll let you know who it is later. Stay tuned. And it's going to be random as hell. You might have noticed the cough. I am battling something, and I don't know if it's allergies, because I'd never got allergies to last year. You don't think you have the black lung paw? It might be the black lung paw.

No, it's just I got this little tickle in my throat all day, and it's driving me nuts. But I got my Phillies jersey on. We're getting close to opening day, dude. We watched the World Baseball Classic the other night. I don't know if you watched it. It was Japan versus the U.S. It was an awesome game.

Yep. So I'm jacked up. So I can't wait to get down to Citizens Bank, watch some ball games, go to some day games this year. I love it. It's so funny because, like, I get excited. And this is the first time that I've been excited for a Philly season. And guess what, everybody? We're talking about sports.

Sports. We're back. We're back. We took maybe like a month hiatus after the Eagles. Whatever happened to the end of the season, I actually forgot. I forget what happened. Um, but the funny thing about like early and anybody who's on like in the Northeast or maybe even in the Pacific Northwest, you get excited for baseball to come around and you're like, all right, I got to get through a game like within the first couple of weeks. And it's so fucking cold and like, that's true.

But it's so funny because like I will go to Eagles games in January and I will layer up and expect it and be there all day in the tail, and like the parking lot tailgating, then go to the game and I'll be like it was really wasn't that cold. But it's April, like, 15th, and I refuse to put on anything more than, like, a light jacket. Yep. And I will complain about the cold the entire time. Yep. It is so funny. As a former baseball player, I think that it should be illegal to play the game of baseball under 65 degrees. None of the players want to be there.

I'm telling you right now, when it's that cold, nobody wants to play. It hurts your hands. It's the fucking worst. You slide, and, like, it feels like the ground is made out of concrete. Like, it's just not a good time. The fans aren't having fun. It's just, let's start the season like a month later. That's what I think.

Well, I feel like for the majority of teams, either they're in a dome or it is 65 or higher. Not for us? No, not for us. Not for us. As Shooter said, it was an eventful week. I feel like things keep speeding up for us, which is a lot of fun. It's a lot to keep up with, but we're really enjoying it. So without further ado, let's get right into it because we have a ton to talk about tonight.

Yeah, let's go Rosie Thorny. Rosie Thorny time. So I'm going to start out this week because I haven't, I don't think I've gone first in a while because I've been, I've been in a mood. All right? This whole Scand of all thing has really fucked me up. It's okay. I know. We're getting through it.

Safe space. Safe space. But my thorn, I had originally had a thorn, and I have since changed my thorn because while we were sitting here, we got like a message request and I clicked it. And Dev sent me the picture of her with our guest. I guess it's not really a secret. We put it online already. It's on Instagram. Yeah, but it's still fun.

Okay, cool. So, Deb sent me the picture that she took with this guy at an event, and she sent it to me, and she thought it would be funny. I thought it was funny, too, if I posted that picture. I was like, oh, here's my wife with this guy. So ask him questions. A lot of people message us saying, wow, like, Steele's wife is gorgeous. Like, tell me something I don't know.

but this one person and this comment always makes me laugh because it's like a backhanded compliment and I'll read the name it's from Morgan Jane on Instagram and she just goes

steal out kicking his coverage way to go bud I'd love that like you just said it like I'm sure you probably get it to and when I I think I posted a picture of like Colleen and I

when we got engaged or something somebody reached out to me from college and I hadn't talked to this guy in like 12 years and he goes nice man now kicking your coverage. I told Colleen, Colleen's like, that's nice for me.

That's kind of mean for you. Yeah, it's like, it is. But like at the same time, it's like, you're damn straight. Like, yeah, you're right. I'm fine. She's way hotter than me. And I'm cool with that.

I, yeah, fully recognize that and I'm cool with it. Moving on to my rose. So I would say that's like a rosy thorn. That's not a thorn. That's a rosy thorn. So my full rose comes from iTunes. We got another nice review. And it's short, it's sweet to the point.

Five stars. It says, fantastic. Chef's Kiss. stars no notes that's my kind of review cocoa comteens wow we're really getting into this early you're reading the name for cococo mountains that's what i read cocoa colorado mountains i like oh i got it could be that i had to work it out i had to work it out but yeah thank you chef's kiss we appreciate that um all right well i'll just jump right into mine um i'm gonna start off with my thorn also short and sweet and i have no issues reading this

username because it was dog cat owl or something and I clicked on the profile and it's like following a thousand people zero followers okay it's like all right so I know what you do and it just and it was about our I know who you are it was about our summer house video about me complaining about the show being boring and all it said was uh then just like don't watch it then question mark I hate when people comment that like do you understand and also there's another thorn I'm going to throw this one out here too we got a review that just said enough of the cursing. Oh, yeah.

I still gave us five stars and it's like... Well, I appreciated that one. Olegs I said, let's class it up just a little bit, guys. Just a little bit. And I get that. And I feel like we've been doing a pretty good job. Like here, I'm glad you brought this up because I want to address this. I want our listeners to understand it is not intentional.

When an F bomb is dropped or a shit or anything along those lines, I promise you, we're not going into this with the intention of saying cuss words. No. We get emphatic and we say things. And I grew up. in a minor league clubhouse. My dad was a minor league manager for like my whole childhood. Your dad managed the pirates, which is funny because you talk like a pirate. That's right. There you go. So my dad managed the pirates and I cussed like a sailor.

So it's not intentional. I actually have made a conscious effort. That should show you how bad my mouth is. I've made a conscious effort to say less cuss words. And I still say a lot. But I appreciate that she gave us five stars still. Yeah. Because it could have went south. that's a really good point um my rose uh this one was on twitter after we posted that summer house video this comes from um korel adkey you're a fucking idiot says thanks for the support bro happy to come on your podcast and talk about your frustrations it was from carl ratty he came on today we talked about it we're going to drop it next week be on the lookout monday night i think maybe Tuesday morning. We're going to drop the full

interview. See, I was being selfish, but I had a good play. That was really funny. It was a good rollout. It was a good rollout. So, yes, we talked to Carl today for about an hour, just talked about all of our frustrations. He was very cool. Based on that comment, Steele and I were like, ooh, it might be a little sarcastic.

Yeah, it might give us a little shit here. Crap. You might give us a little crappier. A little crappier. It will work on it. That's kind of what I appreciated about it, because we started it out and we addressed it immediately. That was the first thing that we talked about was the video, his comment. His response was great. He's like, look, I don't usually comment back. I just like to troll on Twitter every once in a while. And

I've seen you guys around. I've liked what you've been doing. So I thought I would just kind of razz you a little bit and see if you guys would comment back, if you would like give me the chance to come on the show and talk about it. So he was actually like planting a seed and it totally worked. And I'm really glad it did. I'm excited for you guys to hear this interview. I think it went extremely well. We got a lot of questions out there. We had the chance to really kind of dive into a lot of the frustrations that I think we've all been having. And his answers were really good. Yeah. No, I mean, pretty much. And we're going to save obviously all of the real information for next week when you guys have to listen to it. Which you have to listen.

You have to listen to it. You jerks. We're a failing misery. I know. This is brutal. But no, it was, I mean, it was great. And look, it's not going to be the Chris Bassett video that went on for two and a half hours because it was it was short sweet i think it was less than a little less than an hour maybe an hour yeah and we covered everything that we wanted to cover and we covered everything that you guys want to cover too yeah we got your questions into and i that's the other thing is carl is he just seems like he understands what is going on with the show currently and how people feel about watching the show like he definitely read the comments i was reading through the comments people supported us they supported you know our opinion on what the show is and how

boring it is and he hears them and he says look like one you know the rest of this season's going to be better you did say we're only six episodes that's it uh and two like he understands the frustrations so it was very real it was cool it was very cool to hear his perspective on things both you know inside production as well as kind of like where his mindset is throughout the season and how his relationships are going so be on the lookout for that one because that was a lot of fun for us to do and carl is now one of the bros yep we had an official new bra of on the team, and you can find that interview. I'm going to drop it immediately after Summer House on Monday night.

So you can listen to it. As soon as you watch the episode, you can dive in or save it for the morning. Maybe the morning commute to work, unless you work from home, then you can just take the morning commute to your toilet post coffee. I was going to say coffee, too, but that's good. Yeah, you got to put the two together. That's how you start the day. There you go.

Let's get into the news now. We're going to keep it short so we can get to the shows. I think the first thing and the most important thing, everybody's talking about it, Rachel, aka Raquel. Oh, can we talk about that real quick? Do we have to? Yeah, sure. Just how many people got upset at the fact that we're calling her Rachel and they claimed

we didn't call La La La Lauren. Now, we did call La La La Lauren. Lauren, by the way, is a mainstay on the show now. I will use Lauren from here on out after her performance in this most recent episode. Just because Rachel did what she did doesn't excuse Lauren for being an asshole the whole time. And those are the people that don't listen to the show to, which you said something earlier about like oh people saw something on Instagram

how many people do we have on Instagram that were like I don't understand like who these guys are or like listen to the show and figure out to know us and maybe you'll like us but yeah no we use government names now for people we don't like. Yep I like this trend and I like that people get

upset about it because of who the fuck cares but anyway Rachel and Sheena will both be at the reunion we're getting a full cast in person which I think is one going to be great TV but two I need to know how this is going to work I need to know the setup like are they going to have Rachel behind like I'm imagining they're going to have roof glass like a penalty box like a hockey penalty box that's funny you say that because I was

imagining like an x-ray technician behind like three inches of glass like the Pope you're safe they're going to drive a little Pope mobile that would be great little Rachel mobile but and I did see like they're working out the logistics whether that means that, because I think the restraining order was originally like a thousand feet or something. So obviously that's not really going to work. And if they try to do some like phone in, but you're still in the studio or whatever, just figure it out and do the best that you can. At least we can have them interact. You know what I mean?

And I don't want that like that Diana zooming in bullshit where she says that she's sick, at least have her like there and like full glam and like talking to other people because you know what we're going to get. And we see it with Miami, the behind the scenes, like when they're with their glam team and getting, you know, their makeup redone or whatever, you see them kind of commingling and talking. Yeah. You're not going to see Rachel and Sheena talk, but you'll see Rachel maybe interact with whoever's still on her side. I just can't imagine who is. There's nobody. Except Sandoval. You might see her with Sandoval, though.

Holy shit. What if they stick them both on a love seat? Oh, God. Please, Andy. That would be hilarious. Set the world on fire. God, that would be hilarious. But that's, I mean, that's going to be great.

And I'm glad that they're at least figuring it out and not just doing like a special third part with a one-on-one with Andy and Raquel. It's like, no, nobody wants to see that. We're sick with the one-on-ones. One-on-ones are dumb and they're played out. They were never, they should have never been played to begin with. They were never played in, no. Never played in, always played out.

The next thing is much happier news. And that is Martina Navitlova, cancer-free. Not only did she beat breast cancer. beat throat cancer. Yep. So 2 and O. No surprise. She was a fucking legend back on the tennis.

She still is. Like, I absolutely love their relationship. I love seeing Martina on the screen. I think she's wonderful. I think that her and Julia have, like, flourished after, like, you know what I really liked about their storyline this year? What's that? There was actual, like, a character arc.

Like, Julia had in the beginning, you know, she was a mess because she was an empty nester. and she had all these things that she needed to address. Martino wanted her to change some things. They work together. They come together. They have that beautiful dinner. You see this actual growth out of a character on the show.

You don't get that very often. No, I mean, we complain about the people who just don't have personal storyline. Right. And here you have maybe the most personal storyline with kind of developing a relationship after your kids move out and you have to focus on, you know, what makes your partner happy rather than just what makes you happy or looking at your family. family as a whole like no you still have to make sure the romance is still there and everything and like we watched them go through it and we watched julia realize that and we watched martina kind

of fight to stay in it and now obviously this happens and now she beats it like watching julia on the reunion she talks about martina with so much love now and maybe in the beginning of this season specifically it wasn't really there she was always talking about her kids and like her she was sad that her kids were moving out and like now i have to be with martina it's like no now you're happy that martina's here yeah like it's cool to see that because we don't get to see many real storylines like that so that one really played out nicely i agree so i'm stoked congratulations martina the bros are always on your side we're rooting for you all the way but that was awful that takes us to vanderpump and i'm not going to lie to you dude my whole entire life

has been consumed by this show. I hear it at work. I hear it when I come home. It's on TV. Anytime I open any social media, it's all, even on like my personal Instagram, it still pops up

because it's so captivating and people are still talking about it. Yeah. I can't get away from the show and previously I would have been stoked about that because I love Vanderpump, but now like I said last week I needed a vacation. Like I genuinely just need like,

I need like a weekend. Yeah. Just no screens. That's really funny because we actually and here's another plug for you. We were on the K. Casey show. Oh, yeah. And Kate was great, and Kate was talking to us about specifically

how much of your social media is now consumed by Bravo or just reality TV. And if you had asked us maybe two, three weeks ago, it would have been like, you know, on our personals, not a whole lot. No. Because we do, like, bounce between the actual brab bro's social media is whatever we're doing to get our information and keep track of things that are going on. And obviously that's, it's good. But now it's crazy.

And so many people that I didn't know watched Vanderpump at all were tweeting about it, were posting stories about it on Instagram on my personal side. And you're right. Like it's it's inescapable. It's crazy. I had a client at the gym and he doesn't watch any realities. He barely watches TV. And he walked into the gym and I shit you not. The first thing he says, he's like, all right, man, you got to get me up to speed on Scandavall question mark. And I was like, fuck. How much time do you have? Sit down, buddy. We're not working out today. We're going to talk. But let's just. Let's dive right into it. So we get the tail end of Boys Night, and I got to give James props here. He texts Allie immediately. He's like, hey, Raquel just crashed, and she goes, then leave. And he kind of sits there for a little bit, kind of feeling it out. And he does, in fact, get up and go. And we see moments later, like, he's at Sir.

And Raquel, Rachel, like, yanks him aside and says, hey, I noticed you left. Like, I just want to make sure everything's okay. One, not your place. Yep. You are no longer together. and two, he did a great job there, too. He was very, very professional about it. He was nice, but not too nice.

He was just getting the points out and being kind of like, all right, get away. Like, this is inappropriate. And even when she yanked him aside, I was like, what are you doing? Yeah. Like, why are you checking in with this man? He's no longer your problem. No, and it was crazy to see, like, if you've listened to our previous episodes, just me talking about James and getting into who he is, watching him now.

I'm like, good for James. Like, that's a great move. he's not like calling Ali crying or Ali's calling him and like you gotta leave he got to leave like he immediately feels uncomfortable and he has a really good point like this was supposed to be boys night like the girls are having their fun

somewhere else. Not really but yeah they're not no fun was to be had up there. God I don't want to get to that but whatever and now you're going out with your boys to go celebrate or I guess now celebrate Schwartz's divorce which is still so weird to me celebrating

divorce but they're going out to just kind of like, blow off some steam, have some fun, not think about, like, personal issues that are going on. And then his ex shows up. Yep. And, like, what do you want him to do? And the fact that he immediately tells somebody who he thinks he's comfortable with Schwartz, like, hey, man, like, I thought he was supposed to be boys night.

Like, I'm, I can't be here. Raquel's here. And Schwartz is like, oh, man, like, really? Like, you got to, like, yeah, like, understand that. Like, you were supposed to just go out with the guys and not have to deal with this shit. And now his ex walks through the door completely uninvited. so we think we probably think

that Sandoval is texting Raquel being like oh yeah you should come out and hang out with us and here he is and he's like I gotta go like I'm uncomfortable I'm just gonna leave

and I wanted to see and like maybe he did get props but I wanted to see Ali the next day or interconfessional just be like look that was big of James because I couldn't see James

doing that like I could see James getting in a screaming match with Raquel in front of everybody but I couldn't see him just quietly getting up and being like this isn't for me and leaving

yeah no it was a very mature move out of him And I think we've seen, you know, let's not give him too much grace here. He still is James Kennedy. Right. But to see growth is impressive and especially given his past the fact that he can get up and just excuse himself, tip of the cap, sir, tip of the cap. But we're getting to it now, buddy. And I wrote in my notes, number two, sad, have a sue house. That's not specifically the part.

And you don't even know what it is. I think I know. All right. I'm pretty sure I know. But let's get to. I'm going to, before I say anything about it, I'm going to give you a thumbs up, and that's when I think you're going to be not happy. All right?

So we have a suitor coming over for Lala. Finally, Lala is going to get laid. And look, we may feel a certain way about Lauren. We may have our issues with her. We're not here telling anybody not to go have some fun, not to, like, get out there, whatever you need to do. It's been a long time. Your last one was Randall.

You deserve it. Sure. No problem. Here's my thumbs up, buddy, because I know exactly what your problem is. This man sits on the couch and talks dirty to Lala in front of everybody. Oh, I have a problem with that, but that's not my problem. Okay. Okay, well, can we talk about that?

Because what the hell? I was so uncomfortable watching this man sit there and talk about the honey dripping out of his comb and his ear, referencing other things. And look, can we have a little bit of class in front of everybody? My problem with, and this isn't my specific problem that I'm referencing, but he walks in and it's just the three of them right and christina kelly goes over and gives him a hug oh and they're talking and then it's just three of them sitting on a couch with this guy that la la la lauren just met tonight and they're just hanging out and then and then he's doing that like this girl's trip is awful it's a disaster it's a disaster and he makes a joke right away and says i have to wash the b jays off of me yeah what this is

the guy that we pick. I honestly had no idea who's going to walk through that door. Like this is pawn stars. That was the bucket hat guy. Oh, so he should have kept the bucket hat on. His hair cut was insane. But my whole thing with it was like, and I'm assuming it was a

production thing like yeah, you're going to have to chill down here and not like chat with these ladies before you go do your business. But like why? Like Lala, take this man. You know what he's there for. Like go upstairs, do your business. Like that's why you called him. That's why he texted and come over. like, go handle your shit.

I'm like, I don't want to see this interaction where this dude is creepily saying this. However, I got to give him props. And if this is what you're upset with, I'm going to laugh even harder. When he says, don't get nervous when you're about to be serviced, I was like, well, that's a good line. That was a good line. That's not my problem. Do you know what his name is? The Don.

The Don. I thought it was La Don. No. It's the Don? The Don. That's your problem. That's my problem. I think his name's Don.

Oh, she calls him... I think she calls him the Don. I'm pretty sure his name is Don. Wait a minute. Wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute. Because I heard him say Don, and I heard other people say Don, and then I heard Lauren say the Don. So she just... Multiple times.

But she says it so casually. That's why I thought it was La Don. I don't think so. The... Oh, boo. I would have been livid. Oh, yeah. I'm glad I didn't catch that, because I had to then sit there.

This is the other thing with this. I don't even care if I'm wrong. That guy was disgusting. He was just, he's the kind of guy you'd pick up. He's the guy that would call himself the dog. He's the kind of guy you would pick up in Lake Havasu, in Arizona. In a place called BJs. Yeah, that's exactly the type.

But look, she has herself some fun. I didn't need to hear it in that kind of detail. No. Like, don't come downstairs and say I had to sleep on the floor because the sheets were so wet. Just come down and say, even if you want to be like kind of vulgar about it, like, Like, yeah, he dicked me down pretty good. High five, ladies. Like, that would be different.

You were slightly ahead of me because I was FaceTiming Poppy when the episode started. So I started a little bit late. We recorded it. So you texted me, if you back up this fucking tarot or this card thing, like something along those lines. And I hadn't seen it yet. As soon as I got to the scene, look, we've talked about it before. We've gotten into the signs, the astrology, all of that stuff. okay and it is people like alley that make it difficult for people like us to take this shit seriously

yeah okay don't sit there if you want to say that you're a Pisces or you're an aries or a virgo or whatever and that you feel a certain way of some kind of connection to your sign fine fine i'm not going to sit here and debate it i don't really care if that's how you feel great i'm not here to tell you what to do but if you sit there and tell me that james is in the 15th moon of the second sunday of an aquarius moon spirit and you're in the hidden house behind the hen house I don't know what the fuck you're talking about. I don't believe you. It makes you sound silly.

And then I have to sit there and watch this man flip a deck of cards and tell us how much in love you guys are. How perfect you guys are for each other. And Twin Flame comes up and James Kennedy hasn't heard that until recently. It turns out why? Because fucking machine gun Kelly and Megan Fox have coined this term. So everybody's saying it. It's the most popular term around at the time because those two were so polarizing

and nobody could get enough of them. So no, it's not like, holy shit. this is so unique we're twin flame babe let me touch your hair one more fucking time and kiss your fucking cheek yeah that was it was tough to watch him do that but i honestly think that he was very uncomfortable being there and dealing with all of that going on in front of him and he didn't care like he was bored i think that's what he was i think he is honestly like when i think of james kennedy and like the way he shows affection like that i think of like a four-year-old who's bored at the supermarket and we'll just like start climbing on it you know what i mean like he's bored

his shit like he doesn't care about any of this none of this means anything like he tried to show a little bit of interest and gets machine gun fucking Kelly and Megan Fox and he's like oh okay let me just like play with your hair and kiss your face because I'm uncomfortable and I want to leave honestly I found out that I am an Aquarius

on my seventh house which is a mobile home in Alabama and uh you're talking about you had me for his house did you look it up no absolutely not how to look it up and the funniest part about that whole thing when Ali's talking about it He's like, yeah, all the, whatever, 12th house, which is actually the hidden house. It's like, that means that I guard my secrets.

It's like, then what did the first, like, 17 words that you said mean? Like, that means nothing. I don't know. Hidden house, and then you hide secrets, that makes sense. Yeah, that get that. What about the other 50 fucking things that you threw out there? No, it's 15. I don't care.

She's in the 15th house. Whatever. I thought it was 12th. How many houses are in the neighborhood? That's a really good question. And what are these other houses look like? And can we live there? Can we live in the second Pisces moon house?

Because I want to be there. I think we could. Sounds like a, it sounds like a good time. I think we could. I think that house sounds like it has a star projector that plays on loop. And I don't really want to be there, actually. We could do this for another two hours.

Yeah. Let's move on. We're at Pump with Memo, which. Sick name. What a name. Great name. As soon as I saw on the screen, I was like, please don't be pronounced Memo and be pronounced memo. And of course, it's fucking memo.

It was great. But we get a meeting, Sandy shows up and double fists frose and beer at like 12 in the afternoon. God. Of course he does. But Lisa is talking to them about their shorts and Sandy's situation and trying to see if they want the buyout. And respect to them, they actually made the right decision and said, no. Now, here's my problem. She offers to buy out Greg.

Why would you not take that? This is somebody you know has success. This is somebody that you trust. It's somebody that knows the area better than any. Like, she's going to do a better job than Greg. Absolutely. And I think they're honestly just stuck and they don't know what to do because they don't know what to do. Like, that's the real thing.

And then you get Sandoval sitting there being this like cool, like mean-spirited businessman yelling about like, we're going to open when I said we're going to open. But also we have to go to this wedding. So like we got to postpone it a little bit. Like, where are your priorities? Bro. You're taking forever to open this. Lisa Vanderpomps. telling you you should have opened a long time ago you have to open the doors to make money you

can't make everything perfect they're talking about how much money they're going to need and they're like 40 50 60 i don't know and they don't know that's the whole thing is like they say all these things out loud and at the end of the day they have zero idea what they need to do to make this a success and it's never going to be a success especially now but they don't know what the hell they're doing It cracks me up when it's juxtaposed to Katie and Ariana, like going to their business plan with their business consultant. And they are so on point. They have binders with all their shit in it. They know the answers to the questions.

Like, they seem confident. They're just. And they're also biding their time. They're like, look, we have all our ducks in a row so that when we get out there to investors, like, we're not going to fall on our face. We have a plan. We have a location. We're ready to, like, the fact that these two. idiots have been doing this for a year

for a million dollars and are going to push it because of a wedding bro if I was sunk into a place for a million dollars I wouldn't leave that place I would live in the bar until it opens. That's what Lisa said she's like you should be there 24-7 making sure that this works and we know that Sandoval's not there 24-7

and Schwartz is too much of a coward to call them out. Yeah well like they are just stuck and here's the other thing about investors they were probably just walking around like well yeah like you know it's going to be a hit like We're Tom Tom. We're Schwartz and Sandy.

You know us from TV. And then you get like Katie and Ariana over here like fully mapped out. Like we're going to plan on this. Nobody knows who we are. But we have this really good model and we think it's going to work. And we will talk to Lisa to consult with us because she's doing it out of the kindness of her own heart too. Like I love these kids. I know them from so long ago.

And I'm so happy to see where they are now. She doesn't really talk about that when it comes to Tom and Tom. She's like, well, they're kind of fucked. Like, I don't know what to tell them. We actually hear her kind of say that when it gets to Ariana and Katie talking about their business plan with her. Because she's like, I wish that they'd come to be sooner because now they're on their own. The next scene is with Brock and Sheener. And the only reason I'm going to get into this at all is just to set up for, well, actually, no, I take that back.

There's a few things about the sea. I do want to talk about. One. That they have to remind themselves to brush their teeth. Yeah, that's a big one. The one minute kiss as well, because in my mind, I'm like, all right, you make. take out for a minute. Yeah.

From what it looked like when they kiss, they're just doing like a kiss, like one kiss and holding for a minute because there was like they sat there. Uncomfortable. I know. Wouldn't that be awkward? Like I would get uncomfortable after. A long time. Do you want to try it?

No. Okay. No. I mean like you never know how long time or how slowly time moves until you do a one minute plank, right? Imagine a one minute kiss. One minute kiss. No, unless you're, there's got to be a little bit of French and going on or else.

Like that would be awkward. Two, I think Brock ate Vegemite. I think that's what he was spreading on his toast. Have you ever had Vegemite? No, I have not. I thought it was jam. And I don't want to insult any of our... I know we have a lot of Aussie listeners, so I'm not coming at Vegemite.

I will say it has to be an acquired taste because I tried it when I live there, and, ooh, it is so salty. Is it? It is so, so salty. Yeah, I don't think that I'm ever going to be in a position where I will try it. Ooh. If there's an Aussie list and I would like to send us some Vegemite, I will make sure to try it on the air. I would ask if it travels well, but, you know. It does.

It definitely travels well. I'm sure it travels in a jar. It'll travel just fine. But the biggest thing here is they need more rooms. And this sets us up for something later. Katie is still planning on going, even though she's no longer going to the wedding. So the room costs $1,000. So initially I'm like, all right, rooms $1,000.

you kind of got the shaft a little bit like obviously it's an uncomfortable situation you and sheena had a falling out you're going to go it's a big resort and join mexico is it a little weird yeah do i understand we're coming from kind of like whatever it's a wash as this plays out later my whole stance shifts and and that pretty much takes us to the pool party so we'll just jump right into it you know katie who i tried to pull for for a while like last week i was talking about how, you know, she is the one that got really scorned here by Schwartz and blah, blah, blah. Very quickly, I'm like, all right, dude, as they're starting to dive into this and Sheena comes over to her to say, hey, I'll buy you out of the room. She takes the most childish,

immature approach to this whole thing. She's like, no, I want to go to Mexico. And no, Christina Kelly's going to come with me to Mexico. And why don't I just do what the fuck I want to do? And, like, because it's a really shitty look and you know this person's getting married, they need the room. There is a million resorts that you can go to in Mexico. Literally, probably in that town, there's like 15 great ones. Go somewhere else. Don't sit there so you can snarkily, like, stare at the wedding and say mean things about it.

And you know that they want to be there because of that, and they're going to obviously still hang out with the other people that are there that they're friends with. So, like, if you want to go to Mexico, like you said, just go to a different resort. But I get what Sheena's coming after because she said, you know, during my first wedding, I had the mean girls with Stasi and Christina Kelly. talking about my dress and saying that what it I looked like a slutty quinceanera dress or whatever like she doesn't want that energy and christina kelly does kind of suck so i get that and katie also sucks in sheena's mind so why would she want them there and katie's just like well why would i want to change like i already i already paid for this like once sheena comes up to her and says i will buy you out katie didn't say a word no she didn't she wasn't expecting that she didn't know and she didn't have a good answer and if there's no good answer there

then yes you know what them of me a thousand dollars i'll get out you can send her in boom done we're good go to a different resort like you already have the time off you clearly have the money to go do that and sheena will give you the money to go book it why don't you at least just say let me look into it to see if i can yeah if you want to sit around and figure it out and then call back and be like look the other resorts just don't have this because i get it like planning traveling especially last minute sucks balls yeah okay you want to do that that's going to suck but you know what you're probably still flying into the same airport you're probably still going to get the same car service and like you said there's probably a resort right next door

and other people said the same thing but for katy to just dig her feet into the sand or dig her head to the sand or whatever you want to say to do that is it's childish and she wants to sit there so that she can watch the wedding from afar and make fun of it that's the only reason she wants which is a terrible thing i don't even care if you hate the person like don't put that kind of hate out there now period like that's just a bad look you come out looking worse here by far yeah like you see this whole trend with this little crew that has now kind of established themselves together christina kelly katie and lauren and they just are the worst kind of friend group yeah they sit there and they laugh at each other like no one else in the room is laughing

or thinks it's funny or cute and you guys are like making faces at each other when rachel's trying to talk to you nothing nothing grinds my gear more than that like the hair on the back of my neck stands up when someone's trying to like obviously there's tensions the tensions are high rachel comes over there guns a little hot but not like over the top trying to explain to lala trying to talk to lala try to like break down what happened on this trip la la la is not even beginning to hear it she's making faces at the other two acting like rachel is the dumbest person in the room which is just so fucking rude i don't care how you feel about a person not to mention she doesn't know about the scandival yet so to treat somebody that they're just flat out stupid in front of other people i think

is one of the most disrespectful things you can do to a person yeah that and the end of it when lauren's sitting there like oh my god is she still here yeah she's still talking is she still here it's like jesus like how old are you yeah we're playing like the ignore game like oh is somebody talking i can't see anybody like to grow up like yeah i think that this crew doesn't understand that when this shit goes down they're not winning the situation and you're going up against some pretty shitty people as well that it's very easy to come out here smelling like roses. Katie, if you bite the bullet

and immediately go, you know what, take the room, I'll go somewhere else. You come out a hero. Yeah, because everybody else is losing and everybody else is going to lose that you don't know about right now. So you're going to come out of this season looking like an actual adult. And that's going to really stick to us, the viewers.

Yeah. Because it's really easy to win a battle in this show because they all suck. Everybody. It's so bad. They all suck so bad. that right now we're talking about James Kennedy as being the most real person here. He is, even in this moment when shit starts to pop off and they start to really get into what the issue is. The funniest thing, Lauren has the gall, the audacity and the nerve to say to Rachel and everyone in the room, she's over it. What do you mean?

It is not your place to say to anybody who's over you cheating with her ex-fiance and not telling her until five years after that. She found out two weeks ago. And then James jumps in briefly, and he's like, and goes, look, just stop bringing me into it. Like, I don't want to be involved with it, which, okay, fair enough. But at the same time, dude, you made your bed. No pun intended. You got a lie in it.

You banged, la-la. She found out two weeks ago, this is still fresh. She still has a right to be upset for anybody to tell her otherwise. It's ridiculous because, again, we don't know about the Scandibald thing yet. So we have to look at it from that lens of them just being dicks. They're all being assholes. I said it last week. And instead of excusing Katie from the conversation, now she's an asses.

asshole, too. The only one left standing is Ariana, and I will refuse to ever call her an asshole. Because she's the champion this year. She tried. It's so funny to watch her, like, actually try to have normal reactions to things that are going on or maybe a plan on how we can fix something. And these people

are just acting like children. Yeah. And they're worse than children. They really are. And Ariana just walks in, she starts talking and she's like, you know what, actually, no, I'm going to walk away. She walks in and she walks in and she starts, like, actually having a discussion. And then Santaval starts yelling at them. And she's like, Tom, we're not going to do, Tom, versus the girls now and walks away.

It's like every time that she gets to insert herself, she realizes how ridiculous of an interaction it is with this person. And then she ends up walking away because she's like, I can't deal with these idiots. Yeah, that's the big thing. Like the big three, let's call them, Christina Kelly, Lauren, and Katie, they think they're so much smarter than everybody in the room.

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again for 50% off your first care of order go to take care of dot com and enter code brav bros 50 now we're back to Miami i only get to do this two more times one more time no we'll do a sad horn Sadhorn? I got the brass thing. I don't know. But we'll find something. But then you were talking earlier how we're not going to get that scene where Raquel is like possibly behind the scenes at the reunion, blah, blah, blah. I could have done without this one because all it was was Alexia screaming at Adriana and Adriana screaming back at Alexia. It was unintelligible. It was unwatchable. It was unwatchable. It was a terrible way to start the reunion, in my opinion, because it was just madness. It was chaos. The whole reunion has been tough for, which really sucks because the show was enjoyable.

And we thought we were going to get a good reunion. But honestly, if you were to teleport us back a couple of weeks, I think that we would have agreed that the end of the season was good. We probably didn't need a reunion. Just one. Just one. Yeah, just one. Yeah, I don't understand the three pieces, especially for a Peacock special show. Right.

This isn't a Bravo show that a lot of people are watching. It's Peacock's exclusive. So do we really need three parts? Absolutely not. No. Say that now. Hindsight's 2020. But we get that.

And I love Julie because Julia is still sticking up for her friends. Even when Alexia comes in and tries to fake apologize, which she said multiple times, I'm just not going to apologize if I don't feel it. You clearly don't feel this. You're just trying to manipulate Adriana into getting more angry so that you can maybe come out on top and be like, well, she said that about my son. She said this about that. And then she blew up at me when I was just trying to apologize to Julia. That's not how we viewed that. We viewed that as you were yelling ridiculous shit at people from across the stage,

then went to go apologize and a fake apology. And Julia said, well, you didn't treat Adriana correctly. And then that's when the whole thing blows up. And Julia is really coming out on top. And I don't think that she's like super polarizing. I don't think that she can carry a show by any means. But she's real. And I do like that.

She's a very good addition. This show just needs to trim the fat, so to speak, and get rid of these. other characters that just don't need to be there that are just pissing us off. I think the best way to do this reunion is just to go through all the stupid shit that people said, and then we'll talk about that, and then we're going to move on from this pretty quickly. But the first thing we need to talk about, we got a little cutscene from a previously unseen. Alexia claims to be more LGBTQ conscious than Julia.

Yeah. It was in a relationship with a woman. What are we doing here? Like, are you kidding me with that comment? And that's just, it's the perfect portrayal of who Alexia is and how her brain operates. When she gets heated, she just goes for the biggest, loudest comment that she can possibly think of, oh, well, I'm more LGBTQ than you. No, you're not. No, you're not.

You simply are not. You just simply can't be. The next one. Wait, wait, wasn't she, hold on. Wasn't there a couple episodes ago where Alexia was telling Julia that she didn't know what she was talking about when they were talking about the Florida law that was coming in? And Julie was like, it's just really hard because of my relationship and I'm trying to adopt somebody. And Alexia just completely dismissed everything that she was saying.

But she's more, Jesus. Well, we're talking about the woman that can't scroll down on a PDF to find out. And then we'll admit that she was wrong. And won't apologize. She will specifically lay out the details of her being wrong and then will not admit that she was wrong. Yes, it's extremely frustrating to watch. So let's move on to the next stupid thing that was said. I like this. We should do this like once a week.

Yeah. This is like therapy, I think. The boldest claim I think I've ever heard in my whole life. And let's just preface this, okay? I'm not sure how many of you guys are NBA fans or basketball fans, but there are some like urban legends such as like Will Chamberlain allegedly slept with what, 20,000 women or something. Yes. Like there are some of these like myths out there of just extravagant sex numbers within the NBA.

All right. So there is some grounds for this. However, Larsa makes the statement, and it is simply in response to the other women saying they have healthy sex lives in which they have sex like three times a week. Solid number. Good for you, ladies. Larsa goes, for 23 years, I had sex four times a night.

I never missed a night. Are you kidding me? It was an incredible performance since Jordan's flu game. Hold on. Let's do the math here. So four times a night times. 365 days. That's 1,160 times a year, all right?

Stay with me. 1460 times 23. In 23 years, this woman had sex 33,580 times without one day off. I think that's more points than LeBron has scored in his NBA career. That might actually be true. I think it was like 32,000. So, yeah, that makes sense. it's funny because this actually this clip got picked up by a lot of non-Bravo related

newscasts like bar school was talking about it and I heard it on like different podcasts like just random people talking about it it's so funny I just wish and this is the problem I think if there was one NBA fan on there that like didn't really like Larsa they would make a comment about how she's dating her ex-husband's teammate son who she absolutely knew when he was like five years old and then claims that he's such old you could just say that and be like what were you grooming the guy like like seriously any things you could say and then even the jordan pippin like are you going to like hyphenate your name and go jordan pippin like they laughed but i belly laughed at that i know it was so fun hearing it out loud like a hyphen holy

shh like that was my it was a holy shit moment so i was like wow and knowing michael jordan i bet you that he loves this too because now he can he'll always be you know scotty pippen will always be my second fiddle. Yeah, and I think, you know, if you don't know the relationship between the two of those, like, it was, there was some high tension between Pippin and Jordan. And maybe Pippin would have been better if he wasn't having sex four times a night. Save some Savida for the games, brother. Yeah, like, relax.

He had a back problem later in his career. He had to bail out of the finals a couple different times. Like, now we know why. Yeah. He blew his lower back out having sex. He said, Rodman wasn't out there with Carmen Electra having sex four times a night, probably. Maybe. I don't know.

I think Rodman could get those kind of numbers. Yeah, but Robin can, he definitely can't get those kind of numbers. But Pippin, I just can't see it. I can't see it. But it would make sense why his back continually hurt. Anyway, on to the next stupid thing that was said. The next stupid comment made, once again by Larsa, I don't even talk about people. I watched you talk about people and start the shit all season.

What are we talking about? This is why, like, everything she says is just not true. No, she says that she doesn't talk about people. and she only lets up the information that she has and weaponizes it, even though she refused to say weaponize it, when she feels like she's in a corner. And then you go back and you look at all of the different things, whatever happened,

she walked into Lisa's apartment and immediately just said, I heard that you rent your house out. I heard you have a mortgage. Like, why? And she's like, I thought that she wanted to know that. Her explanations for things are laughable. It's like the most basic, like, yeah, I thought that she wanted to hear that.

And she thinks that that's like a sufficient response. Yeah. No, no. Continue, please. Go, let's dive deeper, Larsa. Oh, you can't? Shocker. It's just, it's so obvious to see that all she's doing is just saving these things,

little rumors that she either makes up or Marisol makes up or somebody DMs and it's from an account that has zero followers and they take it as law. And she saves it for the show. Like, that is clearly what she's doing. And everybody calls her out on that. Julie even said that. Like, you could have called. me and said, hey, I heard that you were making

out with a man at a hotel. No, instead she waits until the cameras are rolling, which we gave Giselle shit for in Potomac. This is the same type of thing. You would think that maybe going into a reunion where you think that people are going to call you out for that, you might have a better answer.

No. There was no planning. Maybe some, a little bit of wit, maybe you turn it some way, whatever. She just has nothing. She has no wit. She walked into her her, like, glam team room or whatever, and she thought that she won all of those arguments. And her claim was that they want to be me. They want to get off.

Like they get off because of me. It's like, okay, let's really break this down quickly. And I'm so glad that Julia called it out. Nicole is a doctor. Nicole is gorgeous. She's young. She has a super successful husband, a seemingly very happy, successful life. That's the root here.

That's the fucking problem you have. It has nothing to do with all. all the bullshit that you're claiming is going on, you threw that jab out there at her because you thought that was the one way that you could kind of stick it to her is to challenge her career. And you genuinely did. You could have ruined her career.

And for you to say our final stupid thing that was said, the most stupid thing I think I've ever heard on Bravo. And that is, I've had a lot of bold claims about things that I just haven't heard before on Bravo. For you to sit there and say, I have real jobs to a fucking anesthesiologist. This woman makes sure that people don't die on the reg. Do you understand how, like, perfect you have to be with anesthesia to keep people under,

not kill them, and not have them wake up during surgery? It's a very important job. By the way, does she have, does Larsa have real jobs? Oh, I was getting to that. Did those jobs exist five years ago? Probably not. Those jobs didn't exist five years. I don't know when OnlyFans was started, but that's your real job.

You're comparing your career, and this is not a knock on anybody that does OnlyFans. If you get your bank making it off of OnlyFans, you do, you get that paper boo. I'm not here to judge. But for you to go up and say that your job is more substantial than that of an anesthesiologist, a doctor, is ludicrous. I saw a really good post somebody broke down the amount of time it takes to become an anesthesiologist. It's four years of regulars. school four years in like doctor school medical school three years of residency just to become this person then it had next to it time it takes to become an only fans model register take

pictures promote post yep that's it that was pretty much it and we saw her working this year once when she said hold on i have to take a couple feet picks yeah like that was how quickly you did that Nicole had to go to a 12 hour shift and she was gone for the weekend because she had to work back to back to back. Yeah. And she gets Julia talking about how Martina was going under and Nicole was her anesthesiologist

for that. And she's very real. And this is why like I respect Nicole so much because one, she's definitely I think the smartest housewife maybe not like the most cutting but intelligence wise she's definitely the smartest housewife that we've seen.

She did not take that bait. When Larsa said that Julia laughed, Gertie laughed and was like, what the fuck are you talking about? Nicole just shook her head. And she did that countless times because that side of the room is ridiculous, minus Lisa. Lisa's going through a lot of shit.

It seems like there's a lot more weird stuff going on. And she was very blinds to a lot of things that were going on. Or she knew about it and she's acting like she didn't now, but whatever. That's a different discussion for a different day. But that side of the room is crazy and they're just hurling insults and just talking about the dumbest shit and laughing amongst themselves, much like the mean girls that we talked about in CPR. Honestly, it's the same exact vibe. It is.

But they're just missing the mark. And the other side of the room is like, Sands, maybe Adriana, who I can't really stand right now, they all have it together and they're all figuring out their lives and they're all bettering themselves. And these idiots on the left side are not. No, they're getting progressively worse and worse. And I take that back.

I looked at my notes. We still have more stupid comments. Oh, God. After the Larsa, like, I have a real job. Okay. We get to Larsa pretty much trying to like slut shit. name Nicole for what she wears. Yeah.

Again, glass house. If you make your money on only fans, I don't care. But don't then say that Nicole wears promiscuous outfits to work. Nicole does this not. One, no, she wears scrubs. She wears scrubs. Everybody does. Yeah.

And you're going to try to give her shit because she said she pulled her neck while giving a blowjob. When somebody asked the question, have you ever gotten hurt during sex? She answers a question that has to do. with her husband, and she says, yeah, I pull my neck. Yeah. One, funny. Two, poignant, because that was the question asked. And three, you can't use that as animal.

Like, she's so disgusting and unprofessional. What are we doing? Unbelievable. It's like, I literally thought I was going insane watching this. It is. I mean, they're already insane because, again, that side of the room thinks that they did so well. And they're high-fiving and toasting after this. I guarantee it.

Like, we dragged them. We dragged that other couch. I don't, I think it's just Marisol, but is there someone else on Ultimate Girl's trip that I have to worry about? I thought there was another one. If it's Alexia and Marisol, I'm going to hurl myself from a nearest building. I'll drive you. Yeah. The only thing before we move on that I did think was actually legit and interesting is Kiki claims to have known about a lot of these rumors about Lenny for an extended period of time.

And it looks like we're going to get more of that next week. Yeah, and I want to, I'm excited to get. into that because hopefully but moving right along to summer house as we said we got the chat with the summer house member today carl was was awesome i'm excited if you guys to hear that but uh we start out and it's like the disco party and what is it called studio 50 forest something like that sure something like that whatever but i appreciated and you know maybe it's because we talk to him today and he was such a delightful guy that but I wrote it down here that I did

appreciate that Carl said he didn't have the balls to like bring it up to Kyle like he hadn't like had the nerve to go up and ask him I was like all right self-aware King I appreciate that nice job he looked great in the outfit and Jerry Curles see what we're doing now yeah the fact that those two Kyle

also looked great they both looked fantastic like the fact that and you brought it up on the interview today like I do love that there's a trope centered around Summerhouse yeah where extremely serious conversations happen in very wacky outfits. I think that we need, if one of our listeners can put together, like, a little collage of very serious conversations in wacky clothes throughout the year on Summerhouse, we would

be forever in your debt. We'll send you a free cameo if you could put that together. It happens all the time. And, like, these are, like, the reasons that I do like the theme parties is because most of them go all out and most of them will wear cool costumes that, like, you never, expect it, have any reason to use. Kyle looked great. Carl looked great.

There were a couple of duds out there. I don't think Chris understood what was going on. He didn't get the assignment. He still knew, so I'm going to give him a little grace there. But I will say Chris was so funny to watch. I love Chris. He's just going for, he's such a nice guy. He's just such like a goofball.

He is. But he's very clearly like dead set on, you know, talking to some chicks. And obviously the ones in the house. house aren't really much fun. No, they hung out with him too much. They're not into them. Yeah, that's probably true. But he talked to probably every single girl that was there that wasn't part of it.

And my favorite part was when he was talking to the two girls that were sitting in the pool and he's just going on and on to this one girl. And then he leans back and goes, sorry, I didn't see you over there. I couldn't really see through this girl right here. Yeah, I know. And he starts chatting her up. And I'm like, he's just swinging all over the place. Well, you know, we all have those friends.

It's a numbers game. Yeah. You play the numbers game. If you keep asking long enough, like eventually hopefully somebody will say yes. Somebody will at least give you the time of day. But the party to me seems kind of flat. We found out today why. And if you guys want to hear a lot of like the in-depth stuff, listen to the interview.

But we finally get a sit down between Carl and Kyle. And I did think it was interesting that this did not really center around their shit. This was once again a Lindsay and Amanda conversation, which, which arguably is the root of a lot of their issues. Just like those, I think if you take Lindsay and Amanda out of it, these two could get to the real reasons, but without the tension, I think the knowing that their two ladies do not get along with one another adds this whole other dynamic to the mix that makes it really difficult just to move forward.

Yeah. Yeah, and I think that Lindsay kind of expected, you can see that everybody has their eyes on this conversation because I think Chris said it best, when you guys are at odds, the whole house can feel it. Oh, Sam said that. Sam said that?

I think they both did. Was it Sam and Chris? Sam said some really good things to Kyle. I like Sam a lot. Yeah, Sam said that inside when her and Kyle were talking, but I believe it was Chris that came over and made a comment about the fact that when you guys are at odds,

because you guys have been here for seven seasons and you guys kind of control the house, if you guys are at odds, the whole house can feel it. And we don't want to deal with that. it's much happier when you don't because we get to party we get to focus on having fun

instead of whatever the hell else is going on now I was a little surprised and I think that Lindsay was also surprised that Carl went into this conversation so like happy go lucky after Kyle had an absolute meltdown last week and Carl's really sitting back just thinking

like all right Kyle's just going to talk himself out he's just screaming he looks terrible but he did call your girlfriend a bitch he did like let's not mince words here that's exactly what he did you could go into this a little fiery. You could go into this, you know, you're a little more controlled than you were a couple years ago,

but you don't have to go in screaming and yelling, but maybe go into this and be like, dude, like I didn't appreciate the fact that you called Lindsay a bitch. Like, let's just talk about that right now. Yeah, let's get to the bottom of that. But don't beat around the bush and like, have fun and be like, yeah, you know, I want to get back to like having a good time with you. And Kyle is still, to his credit, on point talking about, like,

I think that it's the Lindsay of it all. I think that there's an issue. Like, I feel like she's pulling you back. I feel like once you guys started dating, things have changed. I feel like you've changed. Like, Kyle's still on point and getting his opinion across. And I feel like Carl's still not, like, being too real with him. Yeah.

He's, like, still being nice and kind of towing the line of, like, you're my boss and friend. And I just don't want everybody to be upset. And I feel like that's not conducive to figuring it out. Yeah. And like, whether you're, whoever you agree with here, I don't think shooter's saying that Kyle's in the right. I think what's saying is. No, not at all. is regardless of the right or wrong of it,

Kyle is getting his points out. Yes, exactly. Carl is kind of, he's not really getting it out there. And like he did say today, like watching it back, he wishes that he could have like done more. And like hindsight, you know, as a bitch, as we talk about all the time. But it kind of gets a result, not really.

Like they kind of just hug it out. Let's move forward. And hopefully that's the one good thing about dudes is we tend to be able to be like, you know what, fuck it. Let's just, let's move past this. We'll move on. Let's get back to being friends.

It'll be a little awkward for a while, but we'll get through that. I do like it's just like they push it off on Amanda and Lindsay. Like they need to figure their shit out. They need to talk. But this is, and I don't agree with Kyle at all here where Kyle says, you know, if Lindsay and Amanda, if we could just isolate them and let them have like their own thing going on here, that shouldn't really affect us. Like I disagree with that.

I think it's impossible. If your wives, if your wife, girlfriend, whatever are beefing and they have real issues with you, one, it would. make a lot of sense if you guys could help them to figure it out because you do want to be all friends and two you can't just sit there idly and be like well i'm still going to be friends with with this guy like even though there's a lot of stuff going on here because kyle is not matching your energy right kyle's you know sitting there happy go lucky just like you are and you guys just like oh yeah let the girls fight like whatever and you guys agree on that that's one thing but

kyle is not kyle's still backing amanda very much you're not quite backing lindsay probably as she would like probably as much as Carl would like as he looks back now so you got to figure out that dynamic and you got to be hands on you can't just say oh the girls need to figure it out like we're good but that's what they're going to do yeah it is that's going to do and we're going to see it blow up but i don't think with them i think that i think that because daniel can't keep her nose out of anything yeah we're going to see the blow up happen between her and lindsay i'm really curious to see kind of how everybody interacts once that starts popping off because we've seen Danielle kind of jump from crew to crew. She can't find out where she fits in. I think the problem

is when you look at it, this is all projection. She's projecting her shit onto every other group in the house, specifically the couples. And I think it's because Robert's MIA, he cooks, he's in the kitchen 24-7, he's an Aspen on a job, like he's not present. So all of your insecurities and your own relationship are falling onto everybody else in the house. And that's ridiculous. It is not to your business. And I can't say it enough. I am so sick of seeing Carl and Lindsay beef and seeing her like talking to other people. Like, what are they talking about? Like, oh my God, I can't believe. Like, blah, blah, blah. And then she goes over there. Lindsay finds out that she said some off-color shit about them, even though she's their best friend. Lindsay iced Amanda out

for talking shit about her and Carl. They were best friends. Why is this different? No, that's a really good point and you actually brought in another good point about Paige stirring that up a little bit. We don't have and like maybe there's other people that have commented before where we talk about how we just want to watch people have fun and party and not go to bed at 11 o'clock

and obviously we know that Paige goes to bed at 11 o'clock. Yeah, we're aware. Paige has a different role in this show and when she was missing last week Amanda completely just lost her shit but if Paige is there that doesn't happen. I don't think of my mind. She's the buffer. Exactly. And when Paige was

there today, she heard something about Lindsay, she heard something about Danielle, and she immediately spills in a very productive way and then literally leaves, like gets up and walks away and says, I got to go to the bathroom. See you later. Have fun. You guys got to talk about this. It's great. Boom, done. Awesome. Like, that's exactly what you need. And then we see her later, like, up in the window, staring down looking at them. That was really funny. But Danielle really is. Like, she's, she's just so buttered about not being part of this throttle anymore. more. Thruple, Thruple. Your word of her. I say throppel. Just go with it.

Yeah, I'm going to go with Thruple. She's just really upset that she's not part of this throttle anymore. And she's watching her two best friends. She's Squidward up in the window while SpongeBob and Patrick are running around having fun outside. Like she, her boyfriend is gone. MIA. She talks about like, oh, he's not coming out. Oh, he's not coming out. And here we know, like, they did break up, which maybe it is better for her because it doesn't seem like the long distance thing was really working. But now her two best friends are dating. and she feels like she's being iced out completely. And maybe she is right.

Maybe Lindsay and Carl could make a better effort to include Danielle in what they're doing. But why? They're dating. Exactly. I get that. But she didn't really, it's sort of like the Frank Katania aspect of this. Like, she didn't expect her role as friend to change. But if she had a boyfriend that was present, I don't think she would care as much because she'd do your own thing.

I think she's alone and her two best friends are shacking up and she can't join in. But the funniest is her trying to defend her stand. She's like, yeah, I'm always going to have an opinion on you guys because, like, you're my best friend. You're my best friend. She has to say that a hundred times. I know. But no, what you did was find an opportunistic moment where other people were talking smack.

You decided to jump in, call it a fairy tale, say they're moving too fast, say all these things that you have had discussions about with Lindsay in the past. When Lindsay has said, I took issue with at the reunion, Amanda questioned, was buying a house together too fast? Yeah. You say, they're moving too fast. fast. You say it's a fairy tale. You're supposed to have their back. Regardless.

Yeah. Regardless of the circumstance, if you are, in fact, their best friend, you do not go out to the pool bar and talk smack about them. And then when Lindsay calls you out on it, you have this weird defensive stance, like, you're in the right. If that's the moment, just be like, look, I shouldn't have said that. I didn't mean it that way. It came out

the wrong way. Like, I love you guys. Of course I support you. You got to bite the bullet and just like step back. Instead, she doubles down and proceeds to have the cringiest 20 minutes ever. By far. Like, she is doing way too much. I think she thinks she's awesome. Like, she thinks she's fucking killing it.

Yeah. Like, she's in her room alone. She's alone and she's awkward. Yeah. That's hard to do. No, that's definitely very hard to do. Like, gee, I can't stand her this season. I wasn't a huge fan of her prior, but she was, I didn't really care.

no she wasn't like ever present like there were too many there were other personalities that were taking over and we weren't complaining that nobody was doing anything now we're kind of hyper focusing on things that are annoying us essentially and she is one of the biggest yeah she really is like go to montauk and we found out and i kind of thought this too when they're talking about going to montauk and like look i get it like sam's like what like 24 like let the younger ones go they want to go at 1130 to drive an hour to montauk and go to a party to hang out for an hour to then turn around and come back for that other hour like that sounds terrible to me now I can't imagine what it sounds like to like Lindsay and Carl like Carl definitely does not want to go do we think that maybe he should have been like Lindsay if you want to go then go he should have just said Lindsay I think he would agree as well said that today I should have just said go and Lindsay also if she didn't want to go and she wanted to hang out with Carl then she should have just said no you know I'm going to hang back I'm not really into that I don't feel like dealing with that it's a long commute like there's so many

things that you could say. Instead, you just get Danielle, like, hanging all over, talking about how, you know, we used to go out in Montauk all the time. The Lindsay that I know loves Montauk. Lindsay is older now. She doesn't feel like doing that anymore. We just had a whole party. I can't imagine going

and going an hour away to go do more. Like, let the girl hang out at home. She has a loving relationship. You go, hang out with these other people in Montauk. See if you enjoy it. You might not even enjoy it anymore. Well, I think that's annoying. Lindsay did want to go.

I think that it was clear that she was looking for permission from Carl. I don't know if it was permission. I think that she wanted Carl to go. I don't think she wanted to go alone. I really don't. I don't think that she was looking for a window where Carl's going to make, you know what, just go do your thing. I think she wanted him to rally and get up and go.

I did. I even wrote it down, and this is pre-carl interview. I wrote down after Danielle's like, well, me and Robert, like, I would go do my thing. I would do this. I would do that. Lindsay says that's not our relationship and you know what I respect that that's not how they roll and like not everybody does things the same way if they roll as a duo like do I think it's healthy

for people to have their own thing absolutely I think it's crucial but if there are the kind of people are like look I'm not going to go to Montauk without you like that's not crazy and Danielle as their best friend you should respect that and step the fuck off there's other people that'll go go with Sam by the way Sam needs a friend I love Sam I think she's great I think that watching her have to deal with her insecurities and stuff is sad. It's tough to watch, especially when you have people like Maya dragging her to the side saying, you talk too much. Like, great. Let's highlight what her biggest insecurity is. Which Maya is also a problem of mine. She doesn't do anything. I think she's a nice girl. I think she's like cool. I like Oliver, like her boyfriend, but... Oliver's great

for TV. Oliver's great for TV. He's just not on a lot. We don't need another couple. And unfortunately, like, you're going to get the axe because you're not doing a whole lot. Sierra is awesome this season. Sierra is absolutely killing it this season. I've had so many issues with her in the past, mostly because of the Austin thing and the way that that drug on and it seems like it just like impacted everything.

It sucked. This year, Sierra is awesome. The whole Foxy Brown thing was fucking hilarious. I kept saying Foxy Brown because of Goldmember. Gold member, exactly. Hours, yeah, no, Karma Brown. I kept saying it to myself and then I watched Goldmember. But I didn't watch it, but I started quoting it

because of karma brown reminded me of a member exactly i got a skin box upstairs um but no i it she's great like there are so many good personalities on the show and everybody seems to have their role and they're trying to plug in these new newbies just to see if you know they can hang give the show a little bit more life where other people are kind of fading and i just don't really think that maya does enough to to hang out like she literally just hangs out in bed yeah and And that's not fun. Today's interview doesn't change anything. This show is still kind of on life support.

They need to rally and figure it out. They need to have Chris step up. He needs to do more than awkwardly hit on girls and fail miserably. It's funny to watch, but it can't carry a show. And we were promised that shit heats up. And, again, it's only six episodes in. I think it's a longer season. I think he said that there's like 17.

There's a lot. So buckle up. We got a lot to go. I do have one Guam to pick with Bravo production. they are pushing the narrative hard. They are really pushing the narrative. And they've been doing this with a lot of shows, and I just think that they're missing the point.

I think that they're missing what we as viewers actually want to see. We have small attention spans. Very small attention spans. What were we talking about? Exactly. I think that they were thinking in all of these shows, like, oh, the viewers are going to love this. Like, they can't get enough of this drama.

It's like, no, we're tired of it. So, like, that morning, it was Amanda's birthday, which I always think it's so funny. They always do something that, like, Sunday morning. Last day is miserable. It's miserable. It's like, yeah, just like get out. Like morning, beat the traffic.

Don't worry about it. People that go to the pool, go get drinks, go do any activity on getaway day. I understand. I understand as a shoregoer for like every weekend. I understand waiting until Sunday night to come home. And if you want to go to the beach all day, you miss the traffic that way. Nope. A lot of people, because.

hotels let out in the morning, which I don't think the Hamptons really have that many hotels, but there are commuters. People leave in the morning. You can either leave really early or you have to leave late at night. Leaving in the middle, you're going to get fucked by traffic. But I always think it's really funny on this show that they do stuff like Amanda's

birthday at like 10am, and then you see them packing up and they leave. And like, that's really funny to me. But you can tell that Lindsay was going to say, happy birthday to Amanda, and they just cut. Yep. And went right over to somebody else. It's like, I know that Lindsay said happy birthday we all know Lindsay said happy birthday she didn't just stand there awkwardly and if she did you would have shown it yes so don't do that like that is annoying like we

know what the narrative is even when she says happy birthday maybe we would read into it and be like that seemed disingenuous i didn't really like the way she said happy birthday but don't just like cut it off and be like she didn't do it like you're they're gonna figure it out what it makes me think that bravo production thinks we're stupid huh it makes me Last but not Last but not least, we are in Roanjay Roan hay We're at the Jersey Shore

We're down at Jersey Shore Where are they? Seaside Heights I think they were at Tom's River Oh, it was seaside Heights Tom's River, Seaside Heights And funny little A little anecdote for you

I was playing college summer ball And I was living at Monmouth University in the dorms there. Going on karma and fist bumping? We went to karma one night. Fist bumping? I did. Yes.

I mean, you have to. I just wanted you to say it out loud. No, I fist bumped. Look, I'm not above it. I'm not above it when I'm there in the moment. And I was 19 with a fake ID and like, I think I had glow sticks and do, do, do, do. Do you think you're a, would you say that you're a dollar store, Mike, the situation? Yeah.

Okay. Yeah, I'll take that. Yeah, fine. Whatever. But what was I talking about? Is he a time? Oh, my anecdote about the Seaside Heights. So that is actually the town that Jersey Shore is filmed in in Seaside Heights.

It is. And I was playing Summerball, and I needed money because I was in college and broke and playing Summerball. So we went on Craigslist, and me and my two roommates at the time found a listing for, like, a boardwalk employee. And I'm like, all right, I pay like $20 an hour, which is great. Turns out it did not pay $20 an hour. There's a lot of stipulations that went with it. didn't get paid but we go and it's one of those dark booths that you throw you were a carnie i was a carny for for three days didn't get paid and you find out how it was rigged oh my god it's

that's i was getting to this sad as shit ever so there was this kid this sweet kid comes up and he's probably like six and all he wants is this Pikachu yeah it's all he wants it's this big stupid it probably cost 50 cents to make might cost two dollars in a store but he's just like throwing down 20s, but when we were taught, like, we get there, like, 7 a.m., this guy's, like, walking us through. And all the tags, all right, there's tags behind each balloon. Yeah. All the tags are facing the wall, okay?

And there is S for small, M for medium, J for J for Jumbo, whatever. This guy highlights, they can't see the tag. I'm like, excuse me? Scumback. They can't see the tag. The more money I make, the more money you make. So he wants us to scam children. And luckily for this poor kid, he's just hitting smalls.

He's spent 30 bucks, and he's hitting small as he starts crying. I get in trouble because he's like walking away crying. And I grabbed the Pikachu and I just tossed it. I was like, here you go, buddy. He was like, nice job. And he walks away. This dude, you would have thought that I robbed him. He comes over there.

He's like, what are you doing? He goes, we don't give away the jumbo. Loses his mind. Doesn't fire me then. But the worst part is I'm out. I have to lobby people to, throw darts so I'm like walking up to randos like hey man free dart throw oh god walked up to this one dude who's in pajama pants which is my biggest pet peeve pajama pants in public just jersey short on the

boardwalk baby put on shorts dude all right i know like you care a little bit but this about pajama shorts no no no no PJs in public cookie monster on the shorts doesn't do it for you stop it this guy's walking by he's got hair down to his waist he's got a tank top pajama bottoms and like fucking dude shoes and I'm like hey man free he's like I'm a local we don't play these fucking games I'm like all right buddy thanks just try to do my job but what it taught me it taught me a valuable lesson because now when I'm in the mall or on the boardwalk and people approach me like hey man you want to try this I'm like no thank you not today but I appreciate it and I'm very polite and I swear to God if you ever go out

with me and see people approach me trying to sell me shit I'm always nice because I know what it's like that's so funny yeah you're a perfume salesman in the yeah I'm always polite to them because I know what it feels like to get yelled at by a local wearing pajama bottoms. But anyway, let's get into Jersey. The funny thing is you were lower on the scale than that local wearing pajamas. That moment, I was. I was made to scheme little children out of money. Yes, you were.

I didn't do it. I didn't do it. That one kid did hit small. He just sucked at the dark game, but he got the peek at you anyway. It almost got me fired. But whatever, I quit three days later. Never got paid. Let's get into Jersey.

We start out. Then I got to highlight this, too, because we start out with Marge Fat Shaming Joe. I don't like that. I like it. I like him a little chelby, pat him on the stomach, and he can tell that he feels a certain way about it. He was like,

that's, I'm going to change that. He's like, I'm getting, I'm getting skinny. What did she say, don't exaggerate? Yeah,

he says, I'm getting skinny. He says, don't exaggerate. Let's not knock him. No. All right, he already has to feel kind of uncomfortable that we push these

photos shoots on him, and he's kind of the butt of the joke. Like, aha, let's get Joe Benino to take off his shit. Like, he definitely doesn't love it. No. Don't add on.

Don't pile on. As a former fat guy, leave Joe alone, okay? But we move on to Danielle and Fuda. And my stance on this change is as we go. At the end of the episode, I had a very different stance. But initially I'm like, okay, cool, we got the two newbies. This is a new alliance. Danielle's already coming on strong.

If she can get a good partner in Fuda, kind of like a sidekick, like this could be a dynamic do it. I don't want that. I didn't want that and obviously we're not going to get that. No, we're not. I viewed that as this is potentially, and Colleen actually made a really funny joke. I viewed it as like the future of the franchise. Like this is, these are younger housewives.

They're both doing really well and it's really fun. And like we might look back on this and be like, this is really funny. Colleen goes, I can't wait to watch their relationship deteriorate over the next couple of years. I was like, that's so funny because that's what happens. I know. I'm sure there are like there's scenes with Marge. and Teresa early on. And they're, like, friends, and it's so much fun.

And now they're, like, they've gone through the enemy phase. And now they're kind of, like, doing battle with their minions from across the field. Yeah, they have. And it's so funny to watch the development happen. And you see Fuda and Danielle just sitting there, like, pretty much just trying to iron out what the hell is going on. Like, it does really look like they were thrown into this, and they have no idea how these women operate. No. Like, I don't get it.

I'm just trying to see what makes them tick, and they all have so many issues with each other. And they're very real about it. And I love it because they're walking around. Fuda makes fun of Danielle and goes, yeah, that's more of your alley. And it's just like all the bedazzled shit. And Danielle's like, hell yeah, that's exactly what I want to wear. And I thought that it was nice to see this because we've seen, and we get a little bit more of it later, and it seems more genuine then. But we've seen them try to kind of split up.

The newbies are all splitting up and kind of not forming alliances, but trying to figure out what everybody's up to. Well, Fessler's got alliances. She's already friends with Marge. and she's already looking out for her, and it's kind of annoying, but I get it. I think Fessler's fine. These two are really just trying to figure out

where everybody is and where everybody lies and what they think and kind of what they want. And you can see the recruiting going on. Kind of. Because we see in this scene, Danielle is not really coming at Marge. She's just kind of relaying information that she has heard about Marge,

which, by the way, is 100% factual. She's not saying any lies. It absolutely is true. Yeah. And Futa is sitting there like, what? You can see her kind of logging the info and not fully understanding and not fully being on Danielle's team here. She's like, hmm, you heard that about Marge? Like, you can tell that she's taking stock. And I think that her alliances might already be drawn.

I think she knows which way she's going. She's team March. I think the Fuda might be a little too gullible about this. And she's definitely team March. And I do like that that happens. I do like that we have the two of them together. They both know that they're new. they both know that they are gaining information on each other and everybody else around them

and they're kind of pointing out like how weird are this like the jets in the sharks yeah it really is and and we get to see them kind of talk about this and like really like lay it out and i think the fooda is she's a little gullible and she is going to be team marge and that's the type of person that usually gravitates towards march yeah she will recruit you to her team and look do i think that you need to go to one team or another no probably not like dolores is doing a great job of kind of telling the line and having her own interpersonal story with Frank with

Paul with Frank with Polly and also kind of mixing it up here and there and she's not drawing the line in the sand being like I'm on this team or I'm on this team but it's going to end up like that we're going to get the teams just clashing at some point later in the season and it's fine I'm okay as long as the teams are fair

as long as teams are fair and I think that they're shaping up to be we're on the competition committee we want to make sure We make sure that everyone follows the rules, but I do think that we're going to see the teams take shape much more specifically. You're definitely going to see lines drawn in the sand, but it's funny because we hear Danielle talking about that with Futa, right? And we immediately flash over to Tree and Jen Aden are sitting there talking while they're dressing or they're shopping for bridesmaids gifts. Yes. And Jen voices the same thing to Teresa. And obviously there's a different connotation here.

because they're just trying to find anything to throw at them because they hate Marge. But she's like, yeah, I think Marge has something on Joe and Melissa, which just echoes exactly what Danielle just said. The difference is Danielle wasn't coming from a place of malintenton. Whereas Jen Aiden is trying. Yeah, and she's trying to put, you know, where Teresa and Marge actually lie is a mystery, right?

That whole luncheon might have been a ruse on both sides. Let me smooth things over. They both think they're like getting one over on the other one because we see Marge actually talk shit behind Teresa's back. We see Teresa talk to her therapist. I mean, she does throw some things out there. It could be seen as like, she's definitely being shady, right? She's definitely being shady.

So to hear, but just to hear Jen, like, echo that immediately after was interesting. And it's like, yeah, well, she's right. Like, she's definitely right because that's what Marge does. She digs up shit. We all know it. She's done it forever. That's her MO. She doesn't ever have storylines.

The only reason she's here is to start shit. And she does it very well. We've talked about it before. She's a nightmare sometimes. Like listening to her scream and yell is unbearable at times. However, she needs to be on this show. You can't have the show without her. She is the counterpoint to Teresa.

Even if they're getting along, we need it. We get to Jen and Bill, which is getting sadder and sadder to me to watch. Yeah, it is. I at least like the Bill spoke this time. He just steps around. She says literally nothing. But I'm starting to like Jen and respect Jen a lot more while watching Bill talk because he just talks in circles and she goes, I don't need the confuses shit.

I just want you to tell me that you support me. That's it. That's all I really want. That's it, Bill. And I get that and I realize, I'm like, that's very real, Jen. And when she talks about like, yeah, when my kids go to bed and I smoke pot at the end the night, doesn't make me a pot head. Like, that's very real, Jen.

I really appreciate that. That's good. And I thought that Jen specifically had a very good episode. Like she was fun at the party. She was good in this situation talking about like very real things with her marriage. She's good talking about how her daughter is traumatized because of what happened and the information that March spilled. Like I'm actually, do I think that she goes about things the right way? Absolutely not.

But I actually do feel for Jen and I'm actually rooting for Jen a little bit. I am too simply because what we get. I'm surprised that you are. I know. But here's why when you watch it all shake out, I can. not begin to imagine the level of stress and anxiety that is on that woman day to day.

You have an absent husband. This guy's not doing shit. He doesn't care to make it better. You're doing everything you can until one, fix your marriage. Two, take care of your five children of all ages. Three, you're constantly at war with a whole group of women

that want to tear you down. Like, of course she's erratic. Of course you can't, like, get a handle on things. Like, I can't begin to imagine trying to live this lifestyle. whilst filming it now like that's why at time she makes no sense how could you i would be in i would have lost my mind i jean and we've we've joked about it before like she seems like she's kind of going off the rails like respect to her for not actually being in a loony bin because of fucking bill not doing shit and the perfect cherry on top and we'll get there we're not going to speed through

this one but did you see at the very end when they're on the the sprinter bus back to the oh when he's past the fuck out hold out cold i thought that was so funny perfect image of bill aden is him asleep in the back of the sprinter van while everything else is popping off yeah no that that is so funny and the fact that they bought that house and i think that's probably where we're going next right yeah the fact that they bought that house and i'm like oh that's cool they got a little shore house they're close to melissa which is interesting because they have no relationship there and i guess food also lives in that area like they're going to have we're going to get a lot more jersey shore action, I think, over the next couple of seasons.

I would love to stay there for a while. We love that. Their house is right on the boardwalk. Their house is right next to one of the bars. And immediately Bill points out, that's where all the fights go down. That is so funny to me. But knowing the houses that are on boardwalks like that, it's going to be unbearable to live there. Yeah, it's going to be so bad to live there and to have kids there. It's going to be absolutely brutal to do that.

But I thought that it was really funny. that they just, they were so excited to just have this shorehouse and make sure that it was part of this season, I think, that she just left all the furniture, not only all the furniture, all of the decor, the very, like, generic shorehouse decor everywhere, the same goddamn table that is in every rented shorehouse. I shit you not, dude, I saw it and I texted Dev. I was like, yo, this place is identical to the condo that your parents rent every year in Wildwood. It's every, down to that table. All of them. Yeah. The table, the beds.

The little sea grass everywhere. You have the two twin beds kind of awkwardly facing the same way. Like, you know, there's one adjacent to the other one in that teeny room. Like, that's where I sleep. There's probably a word for having it set up like that. Like somebody masterfully put together this architecture. Yes, it's the Jersey Shore design. The Jersey Shore design.

And somebody's making a lot of money off of that because they sold some really good how-to tutorials on that one. But it's just so funny to me that she just left everything up. And I love the different groups that pop up. I was surprised to see that Dolores was staying at Fudas. I wasn't. That was, I figured Dolores would have stayed with Jen. Oh, oh. But I guess, in her, I always think.

Frank, I got it. Well, no, no, the Frank thing, yeah. Yeah, okay. I thought you were surprised you to stay with Frank. I was like, oh, no, no, no, not at all. But then I realized, I completely forgot about the Jen Dolores thing, like, immediately after. And I really do think that Dolores is like, I can't stay with Frank. I've got to stay at this new person's house.

Like, that's got to be a little awkward. I would imagine they have a relationship prior to the show. I don't know if they do. No? No. I mean, like... Maybe it's just... Oh, food of might, yeah, because Frank trained Rachel, didn't he?

Yeah, yeah. Yeah, he trained Rachel, so they probably do know. Okay, alright. So it's a little more comfortable. Yeah, okay. Thanks for talking you through that. That's what I'm here for, buddy. But let's, we get all the way through.

Let's get to the luau party. All right. And the drama leading up to it is... Joe and Melissa are still throwing heat because Melissa's in-law, or Melissa's parents, sorry, Joe's in-laws weren't invited to the wedding, and that's kind of the preamble before we get there. But while we're at this luau party, a lot of shit goes down. Yeah. A lot happens.

And I want to talk about one of the main points here, because we already have people, like, reaching out about it. Louis. Okay. Louis had a tough episode. Louie took a step back for me and I told you I would call it out when I see it the whole interaction between him and Teresa

regarding Melissa's mom. All right. And I talked to Dev about it too. I tried to see like all different angles of it. I tried to like kind of dive through it. Like okay, where they're just super lit and this was like he was just kind of like saying shit or her stance

and I'm leaning towards this one. It's kind of manipulative in that moment to be like you should invite it. Like well don't look at me in front of everybody else. You should be supporting your wife's decision in that moment. Even if you feel a certain way, like that's not the time or place.

You can't sit there and say, well, I wanted to invite her, but like, and then point at your, like, soon to be wife, and then she is now in the hot seat. And then you're like,

you know what, I'm an invite her. And then you just bounce. Yeah. Like, that was a shitty moment. And that pushes me towards the people are like,

oh, see, he's a master manipulator, this and that. I don't think that, I'm still not going to say he's a mastermind. I don't think he is. I don't think he is. I don't think he is.

Well, no, I just don't think he's that smart. Oh, that's interesting. I, yeah, no, I really don't. I think that all he's doing is, yes, he is manipulating situations always to make sure that he's the good guy. Yes. That's all I think he's doing. I think that he always wants to be the good guy. He always wants to repair relationships between other people and stuff his nose in business that doesn't really need to pertain to him to be stuffed at.

But the whole thing about Melissa's mom, Teresa goes in depth and we've known about this. Yeah, yeah, we talked about it. For years, and we've talked about it. She goes in the depth as to why she didn't invite them. And, like, it's very true. Like, she didn't do the whole for March Senior where she said, oh, no, yeah, you can absolutely come. She had a reason why she didn't want to invite Melissa's parents. And that reason rings true, and it's fair.

And I think she's well within her right to do that. And Joe and Melissa are completely ignoring all of that, of course, obviously. But Louis wants to be the good guy. He wants to be the savior. He wants everybody to love him. I think that's his problem. I think that he always, even when his wife is collateral damage, even when he's completely just going past everything that she's saying, making her look like the bad guy, he doesn't

care about that. He only cares about his image. It's the homelander. And I think that's the problem. The homelander. It is. It really is. Like, I think that he just wants to be loved.

And he'll do anything to make sure that every person, even the people that don't know him, love him. Yeah, what we're going to call him. The ironic thing is people are watching this unfold and we do not love him. No, we don't. And I'm going to, I'm going to coin that term, the homelander complex. Yeah. Watch the boys.

understand that but here's my one counterpoint and not that i agree with it necessarily um i think that like you said teresa as well within her right in that scenario to be like no they're not coming to my assholes my one counterpoint and this goes back to what i've said multiple times about someone needing to swallow their pride if this is in fact a competition which you have alluded to many times they are at war with one another somebody needs to win this game you would get such a big leg up if you made no fuss about it after this became an issue, be like oh, you know what? No problem. I'll invite them.

Because that makes you look like you're over them talking shit. You're willing to bite the bullet. You're not inviting Joe and Melissa, but you're also not causing a scene with the other stuff. I don't think that it's necessary and I think that you are justified and not inviting them. However, I think she could have really done herself a big

service if she had just done it initially because I think it would have looked really good for her and really bad for Joe and Melissa. Initially, I agree with you initially. If she had just done it and just invited and let bygones be bygones, sure. But I don't think, I don't agree with that now. Now, no. If she buckled today at that party and said, you know what, it's not a big deal.

Let your parents know if they want to come, they can come. No, because then that makes Joe and Melissa out to be the winner. Correct. Because we forced, we talked about this. We talked about this. And you know what? Honestly, Joe could spin that into being like, you know what? No, they don't want to come anymore because they feel like slighted because they weren't invited in the first place.

That's exactly what it would have happened. And Teresa knows that. I think that looking at it now, like, I actually, I have respect for Teresa because she had reasons as to why she didn't invite them in the first place. And she told other people who, by the way, I don't care for, and we're going to jump into this right now, I don't care for the way that these women just insert themselves into things that have absolutely nothing to do with them. I get the show aspect of it, and Teresa knows how to handle herself. So she just says, no, absolutely not. This is why I'm not doing this. So just shut the fuck up, essentially.

The Danielle thing. Oh, my God. She will now learn if you don't want your business out there about anything or you don't want people to question, just don't even bring it up. And I get it like you're on a reality TV show. So you want to make yourself feel vulnerable. You want to relate to people. She wanted to relate to Melissa. Melissa turns around and tells fucking everybody.

Of course she does. And look, Danielle did tell a couple of different people she did talk about it at, I think, Jen Fessler's house out back. But for them to be questioning what's going on and then being like there's got to be more. Well, not them. Let's highlight who the call on. Oh, no, there's more. I know, but the main instigator here is Jackie. It's Jackie and Marge.

I understand the March thing. But I get it. Like, if Jackie said that, but in any real group of people ever, if one person says there's got to be more, I would imagine that 80% of the rest of the group would be like, it's not of your business, shut the fuck up. That's what I would do. We know, and we're watching this, they probably know, and obviously it's probably hard

when Jackie's a friend of, and obviously she's just trying to strike down the person that completely nothing right. Yeah, and she's doing absolutely nothing right, and she replaced you. We get it. You feel scorned by this woman. She had nothing to do with your replacement.

You stunk, like sucks, but you said you have to take a step back. You're not taking a step back. You were definitely demoted. But to just go after this, woman, and to go after her family like that, it's disgusting. And then you really do seem like Marge's true colors. Oh, yeah.

And then she starts talking about, like, yeah, there's definitely got to be more there. And then Food is obviously on that team. And I don't think that she necessarily said anything, but she didn't say anything against it. To be like, no, you know what? Just don't worry. Like, if we want to know more, we'll just ask Danielle. But food is the one that then spilled the beans to Marge that Danielle was saying shit about Marge.

Even if Daniel wasn't really talking shit about Marge. And that's when the line's drawn with that. When you're like, okay, she's team here. I chalk that up to learn. how to play the game though maybe maybe she's like warming up to like her you know captain of the team so to yeah but back to like i couldn't stand jacky this whole episode she tried to start shit earlier before the party she brings up her brother and the instagram blocking and like there's got to be more there and then you see her insert herself with marge says the same thing trying to drum up some shit

the worst part she's talking she like slides in like slithers in and it's like oh my god have you seen and Bill, they're so drunk. It's so embarrassing. Blah, blah, blah. I'm like, stop it. Stop it. They're not hurting anybody. And they're not hurting anybody.

No. You know what I mean? Like, yeah, okay, Bill's rolling around on the floor. Like, kind of embarrassing. It was poor Lout girls. Yeah, I know, right? And but Jen is just, yeah, she's lit, but she's not making a mockery out of herself. She's drunk at a Lua party in which other people are like, the dudes are in the

corner ripping shots and waxing food his chest. Yeah, that's, the fucking frat boy shit, I hate fratts. I'm sorry if you are, we've talked about it before. But that is, it's just bizarre to me. That is such a weird thing to do. And the guy, like, look, I get, like, John Fudo walking in with adult diapers being like, I thought it was nice to bring you guys some diapers. That's funny.

That's pretty funny. This is weird. This is, like, the waxing? Yeah, I thought was funny. It reminded me, like, 40-year-old virgin when Steve Carroll gets waxed. Yeah, but they don't do that as, like, an initiation thing. They do that because they want Steve Carrel to get laid. Yeah.

I know. I understand the premise of the movie. This is like, hey, man, like, we've got a huge party here. We're actually going to take you out back. We're going to get you really drunk, and then we're going to take your shirt off and wax you. A bunch of dudes are going to stand around a circle and wax you in front of other people. They do this a lot. They do, like, they play the dicks on the boat. The dicks on the boat is one thing, like, the constant ball jokes to Frank is weird. Joe putting Frank in his pants during the suit, like weird.

But I do love that Jen was walking around. And when she went over to the cigar roller, she immediately starts smoking. She goes, I'm not going to lie. stinks it's really bad and then later we see her wandering around with like another drink dancing and she still has the cigar and she's been smoking it the whole time i love i love that i think jenn and bill were look bill is bill whatever but jen has really been good this year she's good but here's my and i got sidetracked with the the waxing of the chest but like here's my issue with with jacky once again she has already highlighted to a group of women that jenn and bill

are lit off their ass yes then she takes it upon herself after the fact, and you know it's later. This is not a production thing because originally it was lighter out and when she goes and approaches Jen, it's dark. So, like, this is later in the night. After claiming that she is hammered,

you take it upon yourself to go up to her in that moment and you're going to ask her then about her shit with Marge? Yeah. That's so immature. It's gaslighting. You're trying to set her up for failure. And Jen actually had a...

I was so nervous about her response. I know. She had a good response. She's like, look, this was terrible. This, like, ruined her. a lot of things in my life. I have anxiety that my daughter is now affected by it. She wants to be a love

therapist because she's traumatized from finding out about the affair. This was not the way it should have went down. The Jackie's like, well, I can understand. It's like, you don't get to lay a sympathetic ear now because you are trying to drum up shit and now you feel bad. You don't get to now play the hero and the friend that's going to comfort her. I don't think the Jackie

was trying to comfort her. I think the Jackie realized that it backfired. I think that she thought she was going to get a good off-the-cuff raw Jen moment, and Jackie was going to be there and Jackie was going to be the reason why that happened. Instead, Jen actually had a real response and it was pretty pointed and it was very heartfelt and it really made you feel bad and Jackie's like, I didn't, I don't know what's like, like I don't think that she was a shoulder to cry on there. I don't think she was being a good

friend. I think she was just trying to get a goddamn storyline because she stinks. She was trying to know she stinks. There's two things that I want to finish with. The first one being the issue that Marge seems to have with the enemy that don't get on her bad side. I still don't get it. It's not, her tagline. I'm a, I'm a great friend, but I'm a lethal enemy. Yes. She's just saying your taglines.

Pretty much. So if you to take issue with that, you're just looking for reasons to get mad. But here's... Well, hold on. Oh. When do they do those taglines? I don't know. If it's preseason, then she should.

I think it's a few episodes in. So if she already knew that Teresa's been saying that, she may have spun it for her own thing. Maybe. It could be. All right. That's kind of dumb, but if it is, either way, it's dumb. Yeah, but you might be on to something there.

But the last thing we need to talk about, because it was bizarre. Man, once again, Louis takes another step back. We don't have to dive too far, because we're going to talk about it next week more. This man wears his dead father-in-law's pajamas. to make his stepdaughters, sorry, stepdaughters feel more comfortable. That was, it's, that's when I was like, okay. It's so uncomfortable, like, it made me physically uncomfortable. I hate the scenes from next week when they make me feel uncomfortable because I know that I have to watch them again.

Yeah, and we didn't even get to the bottom of that scene. I hope in that moment, I'm not like a big Joe fan, but I hope Joe's like, what the fuck? Like, why are you doing that? I would be okay if Joe punched him in the face. at that point. We knew Louis was weird. But that's weird. But that's like...

If Teresa condones that behavior, that's even weird. Like, hey, just give me your dad's, give me your dad's PJs. I'm just going to throw them on. It's going to be really comfortable for the girls. The girls. Like, I'm going to go walk around and they're going to have his scent. But that takes us to the question portion. So let's dive right in.

From a little bit Alexis 99 at this point in the season of VPR, you think the affair is going on? Yeah, yeah, I think for sure. And there's a couple of tell-tale signs. Just finding out the Sandoval, invited Raquel to the pool party, apparently, by himself. And seeing the way that they interact, and obviously we know what happens, so we're looking for these things, but I would say probably. Yeah, I agree.

I think that if you look at their body language and, again, hindsight, 2020, but knowing what we know, obviously, we're all being... extra sleuthy and detective it would appear so and i think that somebody said that the the rumor is the initial interaction was the boy's night yeah that being said everything's pointing to yes from kind of wonderful tina do you think rakel and sandoval will be on the show next season i think you have to right yeah definitely i think there's no way lisa said that too yeah it's like you have to have them on absolutely i think that Bravo is probably chomping at the bit.

They have so many ways it could go. You could have a redemption arc. You could have a villain arc. You could have all these crazy things. You could watch the downfall of a bar. Schwarzen's like there. There's too much potential for them. Possibilities are endless.

You know what I mean? And that it's unfortunately all at people's expense. Yeah. They would, Bravo would absolutely, why we watch it. Bravo would absolutely drop the ball if they did not resign them. Yeah, they're definitely coming back. From Silly Melly, do you think the OGs are intimidated by

Dr. Nicole on Miami. I think so. I absolutely think so. Absolutely. I think that's the good of all of it. Yeah. Oh, we got a boink, Mary Kill.

It's been a while. Ah. We are gentlemen, so it's not F. Mary Kill. That's the only time I won't say the F word. Yeah, I think K. Casey said boink the other day. I was like, nice. She said boink.

Yeah. Yeah. Again, go listen to Kate Casey interview. The link is in our bio. But Boink Mary Kill from David Coleman. Raquel, Rina,

solid well done david oh my god i just yawn to the middle of that one um ah damn that's a thing i'm boink uh this is weird boink brandy kill rquel mary rana harry hamlin seems happy he does i mean he can have a garden of your own yeah he takes walks after dinner. Again, I still want to be an after-dinner walk guy, but I hate walks. Yeah. Yeah.

I think that I'm... I just don't want to do, like, the star projector with Raquel. I think the thing is, given the current climate of Bravo, if you don't say kill Raquel, then everyone's going to, like, come after us.

So I think I'm going to boink. I'm doing the same as you. I just can't imagine being married to Brandi. No, that's exactly. I was thinking, you know, maybe I'll marry, I'm like, no, absolutely not. I couldn't do it.

I think it's the only answer. That's the only correct answer at the moment. Had you asked us a year ago, it would have been different. I'll go two more. Holy shit. Did we get a video question from Lose? Oh, no. Oh, my God.

God damn it was. Oh, no, it's just a picture message of Lose, Losh. Yeah, I'm going to call you Losh from now on, bitch. This is why it's confusing. The dynamic to me with Lowe's is confusing, because he's coming at you. Yeah, that's fine. How excited to the bros for March 23rd and the premiere of Real Housewives Ultimate Girls Trip 3? I'm thrilled.

I can't wait. I'm not going to watch it. That's my point, dude. Fuck you, buddy. I don't understand this. I'm going to sit here with my arms crossed and just chime in and act like I didn't watch it but know everything that happened. The rivalry continues. I'll never get away from this guy

And we'll finish it up With SoCal Megan 5 1 because it's an easy name to read And two because I like this statement Not a question but who cares No question Just think y'all are awesome The rants are my favorites

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Yeah we just pace back and forth The people that live there don't like it. Yeah, no, no. We've gotten told to leave multiple times. But anyway, that does it. Oh, I'm exhausted. Yeah, that was a good one. What a nap.

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