Bros & Shows - Marcus and Kim: VPR's New Toxic Couple (Vanderpump Rules Full Recap)

Episode Date: December 16, 2025

What's up bros? We feel like this reboot of VPR is right where it should be. The cast is taking shape, the characters are interesting, and we are hopeful that this could make a run. In this episode, Marcus is reeling after being caught drinking. We learn more about him and his background. LVP puts the staff on notice after Marcus is suspended for a day. We get into the lives of Chris and Audrey he seem to be keen on one another. Kim and Marcus continue to have issues as he claims "she's changed" and she keeps yelling at Natalie because Marcus is calling Natalie his sister... right where we need to be. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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I think it took a little bit, and by a little bit, I mean two episodes, it seems like they have the right crew. That's all I'm going to say. They've got the right kind of people for the show. I've got to have me my pros and shows. Bros and shows. Rosen shows. I got to have me my Bros and shows. Good evening, everybody.

Welcome back to another episode of Bros and Shows. I'm your co-host, Steel Russell, joined as always by the one and only, Gabo San Guter. What's up, dude? Welcome home. Yeah, dude. This is going to be fun. I'm just fighting with like belts of sweat and dying and then coming back to life.

And I think I'm summer. That's what I did in 2018. Yeah. Yeah. So it's been an interesting couple of days here. Travel. Holy shit. Time zones.

Why? Why do we do these things? Because of the sun. Yeah. Who cares about the sun? Enough about the sun. Flying back from the west coast of any place is just the worst thing ever. You just lose a whole day and you're dead.

Yeah, it's never fun. And for those of you out there, I feel like, where are you guys been? We had it all planned out. Shooter shit didn't work in Cabo. So we are doing three episodes in a row right now, three episodes tomorrow. And then we'll be all caught up.

So pray for us. and if our second and third episode of the night get a little weird, you guys know the drill. We're trying our best. We're not forcing you to listen to this. You signed up for this. Quit yelling at us. Anyway, due to our very full docket,

why don't we just jump right into this episode? What do you say? All right. Well, I wrote down a line before I even started taking notes because, as Lisa says, without a vibrant staff, it just wouldn't be served. No, it would be Vanderpump rules. You can definitely run a restaurant, probably better, without your quote-unquote vibrant staff.

And vibrant just means that they're bad at their job. They're entertaining, but bad at their job. Yeah, yeah, they truly are. Now, I do love that we're just doing this with Lisa telling us that the industry is struggling terribly. The industry is struggling terribly. Apparently, the Belmont shut down, which is kind of funny because in episode one, and I imagine they're probably there a few more times this season.

The Belmont shut down. Do you know who owns the Belmont, though? This is funny. Oh, fucking Greg. Yeah. Is it Greg? Hell, yeah. Like, you remember?

We shit on that guy. And then our insider in the VPR world was like, actually, Greg's not a bad dude. We're like, oh, we've been shitting on it for two years. He's, I really don't think he was a bad dude. I think it was just funny to shit on him. But I do think with Schwartz and Sanchez, he just expected that they were going to be the face of it and he was just going to run

everything and then they wanted to be hands on and it ruined everything so look I guess the environment I guess the economy over there is a little tough so is Lisa wrong no like bringing back vander pump rules is probably going to help but I'll tell you what else is going to help rolling that best theme song ever right back out with a new crew let's do it it does it gets the people going gets the blood flowing and like I said I think they're in a good spot I think this is right where they need to be. We're getting some growing pains out of the way. People are getting comfortable in front of the camera.

We're starting to have less of the moments that they clearly wrote down to the notepad and they're trying to have their moment on camera. So this is what you want to see the progression as episode. We'll get a lot of that. I do want more Shane Davis, though. Give me more Shane Davis. I knew Shane was going to be good. I don't know how I'm watching him yet, though.

I don't know if it's like, oh, this is this guy's kind of funny. You're like, oh, wow, what a huge douchebag. I need to watch him. I'm somewhere in the middle of that. Somewhere in the middle is, I think, the sweet spot, though. I mean, he's the only one who doesn't even work there, and he's just hanging out with them, and he's on the show. I love it.

I don't think Shane Davis has a job. I think Shane Davis is one of those, you know, those guys, you know, those guys that just wander around and they're just always there, but you don't really know what they do. I feel like he's that guy. He might be that guy, but, I mean, you can always tell he's coming. You hear that laugh. Anyway, let's have our pre-shift meeting, and at least let's everyone, know Marcus has been suspended and you know she didn't know whether to suspend him or fire him

or throttle him I love that she acts like this is a problem like I the fact that we're going back to our roots of Vanderpump where it's like she's pretending to actually reprimand these people is great like I want that but let's not act like this is actually a problem the problem is as Marcus says he got caught drinking you don't want them to not drink at work you're not you need them to drink at work but the more they show the clip of him drinking the funnier it is because there's two fucking cameras right there there's one basically in the fridge with him while he's going in to get a sangria but i i think that's part of it and we talked about this going into the show we talked about this

last episode they do have an idea of what this show is and i guarantee you once they signed up for it they all started talking about how everybody in the past has gotten away with drinking at work we can amp it up we can do this and that so i'm fine with them trying to just kind of do pretty much the same thing that everybody else did before because it's going to play out way differently. And something like this is very funny. It's objectively very funny that Lisa is now sitting down and having a serious conversation about whether or not she's going to get rid of him.

It's like, no, you're not, first off. I think he's going to be a star and people are going to hate him. People are going to love him. I don't know where I'm going to land, but people are going to absolutely be polarized by this guy. So yeah, you're going to keep him around. So he's scooping a little sangria in a coffee cup. What are we going to do?

That's the other part of it. you can't reprimand him for if he's sneaking whiskey like if he's doing bourbon shots behind the bar like tequila sure sangria come on can't get mad at a guy for drinking sangria but let's get to lunch service and uh we get to learn a little bit more about chris as he says about poor demi uh she has resting i fucking hate you face which is my new favorite line yeah and we get to see that audrey and chris seem to have a little thing they seem to be into each other a little bit which i like i like those two so far i think they're a funny pair chris chris is really funny unintentionally and i'll get

into that more later yeah but we might have a budding relationship there which i i like on this show in particular other shows i don't love intermingling this show i love to see who's falling for who amongst the staff you need it because that leads to the blowups and the love triangles or as craig says the love trapezoids so yeah things are in the work Things are always going to be in the works here And they're going to fall apart And they're going to come back together I just again

We talked about this last week It's one of those situations where it seems like they are In inherently like just chaotic as hell Because we missed that Natalie was fighting with Palo We missed that we've got Kim and Marcus Fighting and breaking up and getting back together We have yet to see even a nice moment with Kim and Marcus So I'm with everyone

I'm like what is this relationship I don't even understand what's going on here we get to just get in on the ground floor obviously chris let's just say it hired for the show he's a show hire it's okay we're all right with that but we get to see a budding romance right away we get to understand where we started we don't have to just start guessing exactly exactly and yes he was a tv hire but i hopefully most of us are passed getting frustrated with that i feel like that's so dumb of course people that want to be on tv are auditioning for new bravo shows That makes total sense to me.

But we do get more about the relationship, which I was curious about as far as Marcus and Kim go, they've been dating for nine months, which is crazy that this is going on at nine months. I think that the writings on the wall guys, maybe hanging up. They've been dating for nine months. And when your boyfriend's go to is every time you fight, you're broken up for a few days, quote unquote, you Ross and Rachel it as you try to compare yourselves to, which is ludicrous, but okay, I'll play.

that's not a good thing she's like look we don't cheat he doesn't cheat on me in those three days he just doesn't talk to me it's like oh yeah you already put the you already planted the seed out there by saying ross and rachel is he cheating or is it not cheating that's are you on a break yeah you yep exactly so a lot of trust to your three day broken up boyfriend but hey who am i to say but speaking to marcus we get to marcus and erin uh Aaron is his brother and they're from Indiana, and we learn a little bit more about Marcus, his mom's Italian, his dad is black, and he's been working at Serve for three years, and he just got suspended. How's everything else going, Marcus?

Well, you know, Kim and I are going through it too, and, you know, well, does she still feel secure? Like, you're making sure that she feels secure in your relationship? Yeah, dude, we bang all the time. Yeah, nothing says security like banging all the time. Again, this just goes into what I'm talking about. He can't even come up with an instance in which he can tell his own brother, yes, I love my girlfriends. Yes, I do sweet things for my girlfriend.

He shows up later in this episode with a bouquet of roses for Lisa because he's upset and thinks he's going to get fired. Have you done that for Kim? You could have said something here? I don't know, maybe. Just throw it out there. Yeah, I love my girlfriend. I've got some sort of affection towards her. Nah, you know, we're fine.

You know, this is just struggle. This is what we do. We go between fights. we fuck we hang out we get in fights again it just happens you know i love the girl like where in there have you told me that you love her where in there have you shown me any sort of affection because i've yet to see anything from the two of them except for her crying and him being a dick so i don't know where this relationship is you know the banging the bang and yeah we get to see them bang and then we can figure it up i don't want to do that i was just saying that's where the love seems to be

that sounds like they get mad and then anger bang and then repeat the cycle. But they're talking about Natalie and everything that happened at the Belmont between Natalie versus Kim. And the brother and sister thing comes up. This is very important, okay, because he tells Aaron, we're like brother and sister. Log that in for later, everybody. Because like I said, that's super important. This is also like the third time that he has said it verbatim. He's said brother and sister.

now again this is just the easiest clip to pick but again you're the one who's saying this the whole time and it's very important that you said as far as importance goes on a show like this i do love that we're like this is really fucking important everybody write this down right now very important stuff take a note this will be on the final everybody yeah no but moving on from there we get to venus and audrey i like this duo a lot they're very entertaining they're bfs and they're both from Texas and Venus's picture from prom, I'm assuming that, or homecoming, whatever that was. Holy shit. You had the goatee.

You had the sideburns and everything. You had a quite the glow up going on there. Yeah. Quite the glow up for Venus. And he's a manifestation coach, which, how do you feel about that? I love. See, I think Venus is my favorite person on this show right now. So I'm going to just accept it.

And I love it because they also did the best editing, which is let him just go on a rampage talking about. He wasn't even talking about being a manifestation guy. He was just talking about a book that he read that changed his life. Yeah. You never read the secret? Did you read it? Yeah. Way back.

That was like one, it got very, very popular. It's about like manifesting things and they try to use science to explain things in it. That's what was funny when he's breaking the whole thing down. You should do the edit right now where we speed you up as you talk about it. But I thought it was funny that he then goes into like the science by manifesting and everything, which if you believe in it, great. If you don't, you can talk to shooter. But anyway, Audrey's background, she dates both men and women. She had a four-year relationship with a girl in high school.

After that, she only dated men. She believes that love is love, which I love. And she loves love. She loves, even though you have to get your heart broken. sometimes. God, it feels so good when you don't get your heart broken. So she's a big, big romantic, which you know that's got to be foreshadowing. That's got to be leading us somewhere. Yeah. I don't know, though, because I really like Chris. So I'm hoping it's not him. Because he seems like such a sweet guy, but if he does something to break her heart, we're going to

flip on Chris. We don't want to do that. Chris is going to be, or at least play like the guy that shit's going to go south he's going to play dumb I didn't think he's that he's that guy yeah yeah yeah that's absolutely what's going to happen here but her dating history is wild

she started off dating a girl for four years in high school and then moved on to guys and she's like I know that that's the complete opposite love that she has perspective and she's not just delusional like most people are in LA but she has that grounding force

that I like and I feel like Venus has that too that's why I feel like when the two of them are talking about this And obviously they're talking about manifesting and he's got written down notes and diagrams and chakras and all that shit. But he's very funny about it. And he understands that it's kind of funny. He's like, I don't really care what's going on here. She's very understanding.

She's very self-aware, if you will, at that point. So I like the two of them. And we're still in the early stages. That's the thing. I feel like a lot of people are going to jump right in and just immediately pick a side, pick a person. Let it happen. You got a matter. You can have faves.

Like you can be like, ooh, I'm riding with this dude right now. I'm riding with her right now. Just be ready to jump off their wagon. This is how bandwagon start. We don't want that. Yeah. Except for the shame in the bandwagon because we, that one. Yeah.

We actually built that. So come on board. Let's get to sir. We built that one too. It was commissioned. We don't know why or from whom. We didn't tell Giselle. Yeah.

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Okay, cool. But it's a juxtapose scene. On one side we got, sir. On the other side, we got Boys Night with Chris, Jason, Nate, Davis, Marcus and Venus So they're all going out to hang out And I'm glad we get a boys night I'm still getting to know everybody

I need a girl's night too at some point Because like that's where everyone's in their element You're gonna get the real shit So we got a boys night out of the way And this is a t-shirt Venus has a lot of t-shirt lines But the only time I don't dress up Is to do taxes

Because the patriarchal doesn't deserve me at my best Fucking great line This guy is He's destined for greatness, destined for greatness. But they're talking Kim and Marcus stuff. Timelines are changing already. They've been dating for 10 months. So we added a month in there somewhere.

And Marcus says she's like a werewolf or Michael Jackson from the thriller video. All things that you want to hear your significant others say about you. That it tells you that this is a great relationship. It's a great relationship. The way that he downplays his role in their drunk fights is a lot. hilarious. I'm just, you know, I'm an average bastard. You know, I get drunk and I'm just very average. What, first off, what the fuck does that mean? I don't know. I have no idea what that means. Does that just mean you do typical drunk dude shit and you just like yell at your

girlfriend or something? Like, is that average for you? I don't know. You tell your best friend how much you love him over and over again. I get, yeah, very average. But meanwhile, she turns into a monster. She's an absolute monster. Back me up here, Venus. And Venus does back him up there. But again, I think everybody has different perspectives on them and I do think that most of them fall in line with we don't want to deal with this anymore and we're kind of at our wits ends with this whole thing we just wanted to go away

but Marcus has I guess just accepted it and he loves it but he still spins it and it's so wild to watch his brainwork when he's talking about her when he's talking about their relationship because he didn't play a role in any of that he didn't say anything wrong he's not doing anything wrong it's all her

of course it is Venus is like interesting though in that regard because he does agree with him but not in a way where he's like picking his side it's almost just acknowledging like yeah that is one of her traits because I don't we see some scenes where he's team Marcus and he does say that Mark is one of my best friends but at the same time when we see him with Kim he's shitting on Marcus he's shit on Marcus with Audrey too saying you know he has an actual drinking issue like yeah we all drink a little bit at work but like he always drinks at work whatever but i i don't feel like he's playing two sides of the street i think he's just

honest about marcus and like i don't think he would mind saying that to marcus's face which i think is an important distinction yeah i i don't get the sense that he's stirring the pot necessarily i think he's just saying things that are true you know what i mean it just seems like it just seems like he's stating facts and he's okay with that and he'll say it to anybody that's around. So that's always an important person to having a group like this because there are a lot of people like Marcus who are going to downplay their involvement like Natalie, who were going to act like things didn't happen. So if we have one good grounding force and we have that in Venus, I'll accept that all day. Yeah, same. As far as Chris's background goes, he was dating somebody.

She told him, I love you. It's great, you know. And then that same night, he saw her making out with another dude so he's damaged a little bit i guess yeah this just struck me as like a producer tell us about your last relationship but make it interesting make it as interesting as possible and then my brain immediately goes to because we know that chris was on a couple other dating shows like did you just you just pose this as the dating show that you were on but you actually like it's a real relationship because i could see all of that happening on that's what he did Whitney show. Yeah, that's where my, that's where my brain went right away.

But again, you're going to have these little like bumps in the road early on where it's like, we don't really know you. So we want to try to get to know you. Tell us about your relationship. This seems crazy. But okay, sure. Yeah, that's worth mentioning. It's either that or he's just a guy that falls in love really fast or I don't know.

Because when you get, I'm not calling Chris a meathead yet. He's got meathead tendencies. And that's not necessarily a bad thing. but when you get dudes like that sometimes this is like not that crazy of a story where it was like yeah like I met this chick and like man it was so hot and heavy and like we talked for like three days and like I fell in love and she said she loved me too

and then I walk outside of the bar and she's making out some other dude that's not completely implausible it's not completely implausible but doing it under the guise of I'm just a little worried with Audrey you know she's she's 22 I'm 13 but oh god she's just got something about her that just works and you don't really find that in L.A. I'm like, you just told a story about what I expect every L.A. relationship to be like in 20s because you guys do that all the time. But now you're doing this. I like that. There's a little

dichotomy going on there. Where are we going to go? He's got depth. Yeah. Sure. Johnny Depp. Johnny Depp. Chrissy Depth. This one was confusing to me because I agree with Demi. Natalie bounced for a certain amount of time, a certain period of time. She comes back and she's like, I've been looking for you everywhere. It's about the write-up or something. I don't really know. I don't really care. What was the duration of time that she was gone?

Because I believe it was 27 minutes, but Demi will not let go of an hour. So I am having a hard time because I hate people like Demi that do that. So do I. But I kind of love that she did that, Natalie, because it works. really well and it really ruffled her feathers but i do think it was 27 minutes i don't think production wouldn't have any reason to lie to us right not on a show like that's what i thought until i watched did you watch southern charm well yeah obviously oh yeah yeah yeah yeah when wittner's doing his quote unquote morning routine which seems like ashton what's that guy's name

ashton hall right uh yeah yeah yeah yeah do you think we're fucking stupid they put on the screen 430 a m he picks up his phone it says 630 a m and then they go If you were no routine, like every step of his routine, they're like, an hour later, 5 a.m. 6 a.m. I'm like, fuck you. It's not that at all. It is like 8 p. or 8 a.m. right now. He's got his phone. Military time, of course. You know? It doesn't know. What? It would still be the same time. I know. So with that knowledge, I don't know. It could have been two hours. It could have been 10 minutes. Well, they're lying. Let's discuss motive. Let's discuss motive.

What motive does production have to say that she was really gone for 27 minutes when she was actually gone for an network? Are they- She just getting fired. Oh, yeah. You know what I mean? Manager. We're going to have to keep an eye on that. We have timing problems now.

So everyone gets stopped. We need to watch the show with stopwatches now. We do. We'll really know. Yeah, we'll figure it out. We'll get to the bottom of it. But not much really happens. This scene just lets you know who Natalie is.

because she's, I'm not dealing with you, Demi. I want to talk to Guillermo. Geremo's like, here. Like, it literally was handing somebody a paper or signing something. You had to talk to Demi for an extra two seconds. She's like, nope, nope, you're acting like I fucked your dad or something. It's like, whoa. It was such a quick jump.

But at the same time, Gierma is a stud. So any opportunity I'm going to get to come over and have him be there while I signed a paper, I'm going to take it. I agree. This was just a good old fashioned little. petty war. And I do get the sense. And I'll use something from later. I don't know if you noticed that, but when Kim was walking out crying, Demi was just sitting there by herself, not even paying any attention to her, just like, whatever. I don't care what you're doing. I think this might just be who Demi is. And I love that because there always has to be someone who's going to be petty enough

to do that and hold their rank above you to make sure that you know where you stand. Agreed. Agreed. So that's adding to my not argument, but statement of We're in a good place. You're starting to see the dynamics and where things are going to come together, how it's going to work in the restaurant. Will they be able to sustain it? Like, is it going to be entertaining? I don't know, but you are seeing where the pieces are falling into place.

I do like that. Now, Chris FaceTime's his dad. He's at his apartment or whatever. This explains a lot. This gives me a much better insight into Chris. Not in a bad way, either. But dad is very, very supportive. It's like, yeah, you're out in L.A., go live your dream.

By the way. If you want new clubs, fucking get them. You want a new sports? That's the nice I've ever heard. Go get it. Who cares? Go enjoy your life. I do believe that he comes from money.

Yeah. That's the root of that one. But hey, he's a dreamer and he's got a supportive dad. There's something about Chris's dad that just feels like home because he's an Italian Jersey dad. Like as soon as an Italian jersey dad starts talking, I'm listening and I'm agreeing with everything he's saying. And it's just, it's very comforting.

hear that and i think it's the best advice i've ever heard you've got hobbies spend your money on some hobbies never feel bad about that i don't care if you're flat broke go right ahead you go ahead and get that surfboard slipping golf clubs in there we weren't even talking about golf that's my kind of guy let's just talk about golf let's talk about the weather that opening statement that he made about how he got a bunch of weather while he was on a trip wherever the hell he was and he's like yeah looks like uh watching the weather channel all these years really paid off for your old man what does that mean? I don't know. You understand what weather is because you watch the weather channel. I don't care. I'm going to accept it for what it is. I love you. It's just a

dad statement. Yeah. I have been watching a lot of weather channel lately. Even his son, Chris is like, you do sound like a meteorologist dad. What is this conversation? And I need to know statistically how many people are living in L.A. want to be actors that went there Because everyone tells me I got the look God, it's the best Everybody does That's how I know that we're in a great spot With this cast though

Because one, they're not really like We complained about that with VPR early on Once they started getting money, it was less fun It just wasn't fun anymore I want to watch you struggle and be broke I love the idea of just putting all of their money Into a trust, don't let them do any marketing Don't let them make any money on the side

Put it into a trust run by Bravo they can get it after seven years. We need at least seven good years of you guys being struggling actors who work and serve. It would be so much better and they'd be better off for it. They'd be thanking us for coming up

at this idea. So let's do something like that. But yeah, I'm with you on that. We know how it goes if you're allowed to do what you will with your money. Yeah. Talk to the Tom's.

You're going to buy a restaurant. Someone's going to cheat on somebody. You're going to lose everything. I need just enough money for you to go. just enough money for you to go and rent like a junior suite at the golden nugget that's all i need like just pull your money together and go have fun that's what but they share the junior suite yeah oh yeah yeah right okay yeah yeah yeah we're on the same page i think that's the way to go just just make these contracts so brutal for the actual people doing it's like you sign your life

away. Oh, man. Now, LVP sits down with Marcus. We got a classic LVP scene where it's supposed to be a talking to, a reprimand. You did something wrong. But you're not wrong. Something's got to be going on with you. You wouldn't do this shit for me. It happens across whatever show she's on. Vanderpump Villa had one of these an episode. Oh, my God, dude, she fine-tuned her craft on Vanderpump Villa because we had these with the guests every single time. And then it spilled over to the people who worked for her. There's got to be something going on. Tell me more. And she'll sit with you for hours until you finally say something that she can use. And she's like, I knew there was something going on. We just had to get there.

She's a therapist. That's what Lisa is. But it could be like, I don't know, Lisa, it's been an hour. I remember my grandmother died when I was four. there it is there it is i haven't you yet you know what i'm not going to fire you because your grandmother died 30 years ago well and you know on that note what i miss this because i watched this scene twice when did his parents die and this is going to sound super mean but he does strike me as the type of guy that's going to use this as his excuse for bad behavior and i think that's probably what he does this

episode unfortunately uh that doesn't take away the fact that i do think he oh i think that he is going through something like what I just said applies to in general Lisa Vanderpump conversations I'm not saying that or trying to take away from what Marx is going through because his shit's legit like yeah this is really hard his mom passed at the end of September and his dad had passed shortly after COVID so he lost his dad like four or five years ago he only had his mom left he he talks about there was still some semblance of normalcy with mom around like it was sad and sure but i still felt whole i didn't feel alone then my dad passed away or sorry my mom passed away and now i just feel alone like my family's gone i have my brother

and that's it which has to be a harrowing feeling and i i feel for him and he is going through a lot like that's why what i just said doesn't apply to this situation this one i actually do feel like we are seeing some of this come out in marx's behavior the only issue i have we don't know what his neutral is yeah i i can't speak on how much of this is him acting out how much of this is actually marcus yeah i and that's what i'm going to question to because if this was just a one-off and we talked about this with lisa okay fine that gives us some perspective but as soon as he uses it later for an excuse for his behavior because he's going through something i'm like oh no you did that thing where something clicked and you were able to get out of a tough jam which

we can all agree you weren't really in a tough jam with lisa you were never going to lose your job It was just, you know, we got to sit down. It's pomp and circumstance. But you got through that and something clicked. Like, oh, that worked with Lisa. Is it going to work with Kim? Is it going to work with the whole crew? So if he keeps doing it, I will call it out and I will feel bad.

Every time I do it, I'm going to feel bad about it, but I have to do it. I started down this road. Well, here's the one thing I will say. Okay, and this is valid. He didn't say that to anybody. He said that in a confessional. So I think we can give him a break. I don't think we need to throw the hammer at him yet.

Did he say it to somebody? He didn't say it to somebody, did he? Not yet. No, I think he said it. I'm pretty sure he said it in his confessional. I think you are right about that. Okay. All right.

But does that give me a little bit more cause for concern? Because he's still talking about it in his confessional a week or two later. Like, is he going to do it more? I don't know. We'll have to see. That's all I'll say. We will definitely keep an eye on it. But in lieu of firing him or suspending him,

she is going to send him to grief counseling, which is actually really nice. and he acknowledges I do need help and this job's all I have. A lot of his predecessors have been in that same exact spot. Yeah. This is all I got. Yeah. It's got a sad to hear.

Talk to a lie. Yeah. But from a show standpoint. Yeah, I know. That's what I want. I know it sounds horrible. But I need all of these people to only have this job for a while. Yeah.

Make or break on. being a server at Sir, but also being on a TV show. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yeah, we need that. We need that bad. Yes, I know. That's going to make this show good.

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which you know is going to rub a lot of people the wrong way. my least favorite trope in the world and that's saying something because I have quite a few that I don't care for my number one is always pajamas in public

pajama pants in public drive me fucking crazy this is a close second when people in their late 20s make jokes about being old because of somebody in their early 20s shut up

and I'm not even the person that I don't care about my age or don't care about getting older it's just like I remember what I turn turn 22 you're 28 stop yeah knock it off both kim and demi did it because and it was funny too because they didn't even know how old she was they're like i didn't even know it was your birthday i had no idea your birthday was today why are you there what did you think we were doing here just filming

a scene just having fun you were it's mean that you didn't know that it was her birthday it's not mean that she happens to be turning 22 and telling you how old she is you asked this is demies was kind of funny only because in the confession who turns 22 Like, that's so rude. I was kind of funny. Yeah, that was kind of funny. But Natalie, she should have had a cigarette and took a drag instead of taking a drink. She's like, oh, God, I remember when I was 22, four years ago.

Like, fuck off. It's not clever. That's my problem. It's just not clever. Yeah. I do think it's interesting, though, and we're getting a little bit more from Kim. And I also feel bad for Kim. I feel like because of Marcus, we don't nothing about her at this point.

I don't know if she's actually crazy. I don't know if he's just bringing this out in her. I'm not calling her crazy. I'm just saying, is this who she is? Or is she in a really bad relationship? So we're seeing this part of her. I don't really know. But we do get insight from her into Marcus a little bit because she confirms after his mom

passed away, he became different. He's not the same person he was before that. He's no longer himself is what she says. So clearly this has affected him, which of course it did. like who wouldn't but i don't understand and this is where i i give her less leeway and i'm less excited to get to know her she's got all the smoke for natalie where's the smoke for marcus is it because they're broken up technically for three days three day breakup hasn't ended yet why are you getting so mad at your friend but your boyfriend who is instigating all of this and you know

it's him you know it's not her you know damn well that that that that creepers in the corner with the leather jacket. He's the one doing it, but you're yelling at her. Why? Yeah, I'll never understand that. And that's one of the bigger tropes for a toxic relationship that you'll see. Sure. One, it's always less than a year.

They're always dating for less than a year. And it's always off and on. It's always, nine months. Somewhere in that window. It's always in that window. That's why, as soon as you said, like, I don't really know if this is who she is or she's just in this relationship.

It could go either way. It could be, this is absolutely who she is. But again, it's only been nine months. So, yeah, I'm going to think it is. But also with those toxic relationships, things accelerate so quickly and you just lose control about what's going on. I don't know. I don't think we know enough about Kim, but she's not doing herself any good because she does this. Actually, no, I'm going to change my mind.

I love it. I love that she's bouncing back because who does she go to immediately when she's in trouble? She goes right to Natalie. Who she's been beefing with for a week. The end of this episode was one of my favorite things that I've ever seen. but in the interim and what we're dealing with here, it makes total sense that she's not going to go after Marcus. Of course she's not going to put the blame on him.

It might be because they're broken up and that's just part of their Ross and Rachel skit. They don't have to talk bad about each other because we don't want to make things any worse. That's one of the things that we agreed to. We can't talk about each other on our three-day breaks. We're broken up. You guys have to deal with it.

But I got problems with you saying that you're like a sister to my ex-boyfriend. How dare you? How dare you turn 22 and be a sister to my ex-boyfriends? Like, that's the vibe that I was getting. I'm like, what is going on? What is going on with these people? Natalie turned 22 six years ago. That is a different person.

No, I know. You've been turned 22 at some point. You bitch. I'm still pissed at you for it. Don't get me started about 23. Asinine. No, I agree. I think it's a great place for us at home to see her in.

But, you know, Natalie tries to talk to her like three times. Like, hey. no okay i'll go fuck myself and then she goes over to talk to her out of left field she's like hey do you want to talk it's like she tried it because she was talking to marcus that's the thing that you i know is once she's okay not talking to natalie as long as natalie's minding her in fucking business over there in the corner you go talk to my ex-boyfriend who we just broke up i'm gonna have a problem hey you want to go have a conversation it's a little overdue that we have this conversation don't you work like what are we talking about

And again, I will give Natalie credit to because I think Natalie went about it the right way. She asked her a couple times. She tried to talk to her. It didn't work out. She didn't press the issue too much, which we've seen in the past. And it usually devoles very quickly when people do that. So I'm going to give Natalie credit for not pressing. And I'm also going to give Kim credit because it is very funny that you walked over,

innocuous as shit, and said, hey, we should have a combo. Hey, what the fuck, you know? Is this my idea? Like, I just thought about this, guys. Come on. I don't even know whose birthday it is. Let's go.

Let's go chat over here. Audrey's turning 22. You bitch. Come, let's go talk over here. So they do. They go sit down. And we get a run through of the texts,

which is important. So originally, first and foremost, let me say this. Mark, who shouldn't be texting her like this. Okay? So let's get that out of the way.

Now, now that we know he is, the gravity of the situation is different. We heard pictures of heels were sent that would be a big overstep yeah the actual sentence it was just a text it said i bought heels you should be so proud of me okay still shouldn't be talking about that stuff but whatever it's not a picture at least now i know what she's trying to do it doesn't help no all he talks about is you and it's in comparison to you like oh audrey gets heels you should get

that's making it arguably worse when she said i bought these heels and i thought of you doesn't that mean anything it's like well yes that means a lot actually that's creepy as shit what do you mean what are we doing here it is still maybe catch marcus cheating he's like i was thinking of you the whole time it's the same concept yeah and if you're going to do this it's very flirtatious at its core and that's why they're leaning on the sister thing because anybody who's ever been in a relationship any girl who's been with a toxic guy when they say she's she's like a sister to me, they want to bang, they just can't, or they're going to try, or they're going to be flirting.

So that's what's going to happen. So I don't blame Kim for thinking that something's wrong. And the sister comment coming out makes things worse for Kim, but it's a way for everybody else to be like, wait, what are you talking about? It just means their best friends. This shouldn't be happening. If you're in a relationship, if you're a boyfriend, you shouldn't be texting someone else about heels and then do it under the guise of, well, I just want you to look as good as

my girlfriend. My girlfriend looks great in her heels. I want you to look good in heels, too. Like, that's not a compliment to anyone, actually. No, but that's the logic, right? That is logic, yeah. That's how you put that together, but inappropriate, regardless. Yeah. Dumbs. Yeah. It's pretty great, though. But even Natalie references it. Like, why am I getting all the smoke? Why are you coming after me? Where the fuck is Marcus? Marcus, come over here. Marcus joins the conversation. Immediately denies the brother-sister thing. She said that. She said that. She's said that multiple times roll the tape which one by the way the one today or the one yesterday or the one at the premiere like which one you want to like what so what are we supposed to believe here that

natalie came in and said i'm like a sister to him that's not how that phrase goes like no one says i feel like i'm a sister to you what that would be that would be fucking bizarre if somebody said that about someone else that doesn't make any sense but also we've heard you say it now three times so what are we doing here now i have no idea but he's just digging that hole and this is the moment you get the confessional I'm dealing with the loss of both parents so I really don't give a shit

now it is on our radar there is some validity to that but at the same time and I'm treading lightly here if that is where you're at mentally right and this is getting way too deep for what this show is but whatever if you are in that place you shouldn't be dating somebody

that's not fair to her right that's yeah of course that's a mature way to do it that's a grown up yeah you're speaking very logically for right for a show like this correct and that's why I prefaced with obviously this is a stupid thing to say but don't worry

Shane Davis is here to save the fucking day have ever told you that I have beautiful eyes god he slays me he absolutely slays me at least i actually loved her she's like what no fuck oh like nice all right cool like i thought i'm sure unfortunately by the way that line has worked before for sure stop it oh she was oh shane davis there you go no one he calls him shade no it's always shade davis i can't wait for that clip for next

week he gets shot three times yeah what yeah i i don't know that's i was going to say i we get a 50 cent out of nowhere, like lead with that, Shane Davis. No, actually don't pick up line. He's like an onion. Hey, we just keep peeling back layers and there's so much more Shane Davis to go. So. There's layers and, and holes, apparently. Apparently.

A little gunshot joke. I don't know if that's PC or not. He survived. So can we go a lot of different ways. Oh, boy. Nope, not going to do it. This is what you were talking about. about, which I agree.

I even wrote down funniest scene I've seen because on one side, right, Kim has a full blown breakdown because Marcus pretty much is like, fuck this, fuck off and walks away from her. So she's having a meltdown and immediately goes to her actual friend, puts everything aside and goes to the one person that she needs right now, which is ironically Natalie.

Natalie, phenomenal confessional. Hell yeah. Come on over. Come on over, babe. Put your head on my shoulder, cry it out. I'll hold you. I'll hug you.

Let's forget about everything that happened. While this is going on, in the background, you have cry, not crying, sobbing Kim. Natalie, try not to smile. And then you have Audrey getting a lap dance from Dumb and Dumber, who were strippers in college. Let's not forget. Okay. That's the picture that we're watching as this episode comes to a close. Fucking phenomenal.

Outstanding work. The music changing as they just pan. from side of the room to side of the room and then they do the overlaying shot just to make sure that we know that these two things are definitely happening at the same time it's like you can't believe what's going on here i actually can and i actually do think we got the appropriate amount of context for everybody involved to get to this point and it's only the second episode like this is gold for me because we have natalie who was just complaining earlier in the episode about how her little family is falling apart she doesn't have kim on her side she doesn't have demi on her side

because she's walking around as the manager and Kim's over here hating me because I'm a sister to her boyfriends. I don't know what's going on. But it all comes right back together when they need each other and everybody has their own context that's playing out perfectly in front of us.

The amount of yells coming from Audrey while she's getting danced on, shoving Venus out of the way immediately like fuck off Venus. Let the professionals take care of this one. Like that's funny as hell. It was just perfect. It was so poetic.

And the fact that after all of that plays out, Kim walks away by herself, all because Marcus is over there talking about how he's fallen out of love with Kim. He doesn't want anything to do with her. Yeah, the same woman. Yeah, we didn't mention that part. That's what actually happened. And that's why she started crying more. Marcus is telling a DJ from Sir, which, whose name I can't remember now, Isabella, I don't know. Hold on. Where did I, how did I skip that? Hold on. Oh, McKenna. McKenna is the DJ. And he says, I'm falling out of love. This is a wild line.

She's not the girl I thought she was. What? You're the problem from what we've seen. I'm not saying she's Scott free in this. We don't know enough. But what a line. You are not in a movie, sir. You work at Sir, sir, sir.

All it took was a sit down with me and LVP to just dig through my trauma. And I realized she's not the girl I fell in love with. Yeah. Where did that come from? How did we get her? I'm going to blame Lisa. I talked to Lisa for a while. I had an epiphany.

Go fuck yourself, Kim. Oh, boy. Yeah. So, I mean, it wraps up with that. Like you said, Kim, leaves solo, which is really sad. But while she's leaving, and as we've said multiple times, like this is just the quintessential toxic relationship that these shows thrive on. because as she's walking out, sobbing, dejected, alone, Marcus is standing there, venting as she's

walking by, being like, huh, can't you say it? Seriously, all those months, she's gone. Months and months. Those 11 months. Now we're up to 11. Yeah, now it's ticking up again. The fact that it changed so many times, I don't know, like they could have been dating for six months. Maybe it felt like nine. That's just how long this is going on for. I think that it was a situation ship for the majority and they're serious and now they don't know what the timeline is so we'd get conflicting ideas

5, 8, 7, 9, 11. Who cares? Lisa told me that she's not the one in so many words. That's what I got from that conversation. And Aaron, my brother co-signed. God, what a group of individuals. I know. And that's where I need our audience and the audience as a whole, Vanderpump audience, let it simmer, just give it time, don't expect too much too early.

I feel like that's going to be the big hang up on a new cast of Vanderpumpees. We need you to be patient. You've got to let this blossom into what it's going to turn into. We're going to see a lot of tropes that we're used to. We've used that word many times. We're going to watch those things play out. We need to continue to keep Vanderpump of old to the side. We're not drawing comparisons.

We don't have the new Tom and Tom. We don't have the new Jackson-Stassie. We have new people altogether. So if you watch this through the right lens, as I think that you and I are doing currently, there is something here. I do believe there's something here that's got to be polished and fine-tuned, but let's all just be patient, is what I'm asking. Be patient.

I would accept a comparison at this day and age to Southern hospitality. I would think this seems to be right off the bat. a more chaotic, a more toxic, maybe a little scummier version of Southern hospitality. That's kind of where we are. And I think that's, again, a good place to be. So we'll see how it plays out. Did you put questions up? No.

I didn't put them up for any of these. That's fine. Catch up. Yeah. So we will see how it plays out. But just stay patient, everybody. And that's all I got. You got anything else?

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