Bros & Shows - Mark and Gerry Fight for Luann. Lu, Shannon and Gizelle Fight for Ralph (Love Hotel Full Recap)

Episode Date: May 6, 2025

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Shows and shows. Good evening, everybody. Welcome back to another episode of Bros. and Shows. I'm your co-host, Steel Russell, joined as always by the one and only love Gutel. I like that one a lot. Not a lot going on here.

This show is like a fever dream for me. me. I never know what the hell's going on. I never know what these guys are going to say. I have a very firm understanding of what the women are going to say, but I did feel like Ashley in this episode when I think it was Nick that asked, do you ever date any white boys? And she just starts laughing. I'm like, really? Oh, yeah. I guess you probably don't know what the fuck's going on, do you? He doesn't know Michael Darby, I guess. But like, nope, good for him, by the way. Nicholas, wow. Wow. A lot to say about him when we get into it. But let's just, let's jump right into this. this whole thing because it is kind of chaotic and taking notes for it is

somewhat like a fever dream because so much happens in one scene it's just so we're just going to pop around and do our best to keep some kind of track. You're going to hit all the name points. Yeah. Yeah, that's something to do. Like we start out and it's important to note who's hanging with who. You got Ashley and Waleigh working out together

or Wally as Luann calls them. You got Mark, who I thought was Jerry by the way. Jerry and Mark I was so confused. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, those guys. I just love that they're both vying for the same woman. And it's like a full-on competition between the same person.

Because I thought they were the same too. I did too. But the best part is them going after Luan and not knowing who Luan is. Luan. In Leanne? Leanne is going to chew these two up and spit them out. Like they're unmatched. Like they're overmatched, I mean.

Like they don't know what they're getting into. And I don't think they have what it takes for a woman like Luan. As we see it kind of play out with the Ralph. situation that we're going to get to later, but Mark drops the win, so tough start there, but I'm glad, and by drops, I mean, literally drops her during yoga,

not drops her, he actually dropped her. So tough start. It's tough start to the day, Mark. But I guess Jerry, who we saw, Jerry the surfer boy from who's living in Puerto Rico now, he's pissed, which is so fucking funny. It's like, brother,

you do know what the show is about, right? Like, you don't claim one of these women, they are dating you. They're going to go from guy to guy to find the right fit. Jerry confronted Mark about the deed. It's so fucking funny because before the season started, I think when we're looking at this, we're looking at the cast, most of the storylines that we figured we're going to play out were in the realm of what we've seen from all of these housewives.

And when I came to Lou Anne, we thought, I thought for sure, that she was going to have guys like pitted up against each other and it was going to be her doing. she's simply just doing what we're supposed to be doing on the show trying to make connections trying to spend some time with a couple different suitors and the guys are actually just getting mad at each other it's great they're stepping on each other's toes i thought i thought louam is going to be manipulating situations and just ignoring people and then bopping around which she does her line is i got to go to the ladies room and then she ends up just grabbing a drink with somebody else and that's fine but i thought that she was going

to be like the orchestrator of this instead she's got guys fighting over her it's great yeah she's like i've never dealt with this before wink wink it's like oh luan oh countess but ashley tells luan about jerry then joselle's like well gotta spill the tea now and i guess that jerry had said literally verbatim like that's my woman to mark which is a wild statement to make it's like it's kind of inappropriate that you're doing this like you don't walk in and call dibs dude that's inappropriate like it's so fucking funny and the best part is jerry strolls in you talk behind my back it's like jare i want to go ahead and help you out here pal this is a bad look you look like a psycho dude yeah like fucking relax buddy which doesn't matter anymore

is he gone but i'd much rather have the guys fighting over a particular woman than the women fighting over one of the guys like i don't i don't want to because i love the ralph thing i love the ralph thing is very funny though and it seems okay although i think shada may have been crying but i'd rather like cried. Yeah, I think she did. I would much rather watch the guys fight over one of the women and then watch somebody like Luann or Shadden or Jazele or whoever walk over. I love that I just named three of them. There's only four total. I said whoever afterwards instead of Ashley, but whatever. Yeah, I'd much rather watch the guys fight and then watch whichever woman it is walk away and go start talking to another guy. That's very funny to me. I think we're going to get that because they seem

all four of them. Shannon somewhat excluded, kind of. The three, Giselle, Ashley, and Luann have the right temperament. This is funny. This is fun. We're going to have a good time. We might meet somebody, but I'm just going to make the most out of this thing, whereas Shannon, and I just don't think she has the right mindset for this kind of show. I don't think she doesn't take it too seriously. But we heard a couple, I think it was Ashley and Luan, both in their confessions were like, whoever the guy is that they were talking to at the time said, I'm just here to try to figure it out,

have a little bit of fun. They took offense to it. They're like, you're at the love hotel for fun. Are you kidding me? And then they'll go to their own confessions. They're like, hey,

I'm just trying to have a good time and we can watch. They're there to have fun. They need to be serious. I'm on their team. I'm like, you're right. They're coming into the situation to win your hearts. It's great.

It's fucking great. But JKB joins to set up the next date night. And it's a group date where you get to ask out two of the guys. So you got to go on a double date. But if somebody picks the same guy, then the guy gets to pick who he wants to go with. And Shannon, Shannon stressed. She's like, I've never done this before. It's like most people haven't gone out with two people at the same exact time. So you're in the same boat as most of these women. Do you think she was more stressed about going out on a, we'll call it a double date instead of the menager draw? Do you think she was

more stressed about the double date or that somebody was going to pick her guy and that guy? I wasn't going to pick her because I think it's the latter. Probably that. I think that as we know is Shannon, there's some insecurities there. And unfortunately, they were highlighted this scene because she picks Ralph. She picks Ralph. And I was like, oh, Earl the Pearl is going to be, he's going to be crushed. Earl takes it like a champ.

He's like, you know what? She wants to explore some other options. That's fine. Scenes from later this season that we got at the end of this. Yeah. I've got some question marks about Earl. That could be Shannon as well. I have questions about this relationship that these two are getting into.

Yeah. It's very, yeah. Who knew the trauma dump wasn't going to be a good person or a good fit? I think a good, a good generalization is if you start any relationship with trauma dumping on each other, it's probably not a great foundation, is that you both hurt the same way. That's just, you know, not a psychologist. I don't have a psychology hat on. Hey, I've been through a lot of shit, so you better pick me. If you said, I'm going to go, I'm going to take this personally.

I also went through a lot of shit and said, well, now I feel bad for you. Now we're both pity hanging out with each other. That's a tough spot. But anyway, she also asks Jay, and I like her reasoning. And all four women, I believe, had a similar second pick where it's like, I want Jay because I want to be kind of the wing woman for Giselle. I know Jay's into Giselle. I want to help that along. Oh, my God, that's nice of her.

So Ashley asks Jerry randomly and Nicholas. And Jerry, unknowingly, is the buffer for Nicholas so that she can get to know Nick better because she doesn't have any feelings towards Jerry whatsoever. She's like, yeah, that's great. He's just kind of like furniture. He's going to be there. But I want to talk to Nicholas. He'll ask some questions that I'll just turn and ask Nicholas, which, you know, both

you and I had the same feeling about Nicholas last week. don't like correct by the way correct his very very very hallway shenanigans were i was like brother can you leave now like what are you still yelling yeah louan god asks mark and ralph so she goes in for ralph she's going to take him away from shannon but she's like you can take a little time to think on this one and then jazelle asks phil phil who is kind of the dark horse right now like out of nowhere which uh you know been kind of sitting in the background he does seem like an intriguing character i'm not really sure what he addresses well he looks expensive i will give him that he does he's an intriguing character in the way of like you have a couple conversations with him and i think you understand what he's all

about and either he's your cup of tea or he's not so yeah it's pretty pretty quick to figure that one out he's very steadfast in in who he is and i appreciate that about phil and i think we're going to get to know phil a little bit better as this whole thing goes on but a giselle dude and like this is the aspect of the show i wasn't ready for which i'm so glad as part of this whole thing is joselle goes to confessional she's like every time shannon has a man someone takes him so i'm just going to be true to the brand and keep that going i'm like damn hell yeah where did that come from this is supposed to be a silly goofy fun time and you're throwing shade because that's why jazelle's such a good pick for things like this because that's just

who she is and that's what she's good at that's what she brings to potomac so well Now she's bringing it to Love Hotel. I didn't think we were going to get that kind of house wifey. So I'm thrilled. I didn't think we were going to get that either. And I just love the idea like, I mean, two of the other women picked Ralph. What am I going to be left out here? No.

Fuck that. I'm picking my hat in the ring. Yeah. We did agree last week. I think that Ralph, Ralph's got a lot going. Look, he's the number one guy in the group. Yeah. Move over, Jacks Taylor.

The Ralph's in town. But Shannon's also pissed now. She's like, I wanted a one-on-one with Ralph. Now she's mad. Ralph picks Giselle, which is hilarious. So Shannon's upset. Luanne's just surprised because she's not used to losing very often. And now Shannon pity picks Earl.

Well, you know what? I have a connection with Earl. So, Earl, you're coming. It's like, nice, dude. While you were going through Shannon's retort, if you will, you forgot about the voice crack because I could have sworn she was crying. She may have been. Like, that's where the insecurity's creep in, where she's like, nobody likes me.

Ralph didn't pick me. No. Shit. But Luann, she pigs Wally, Wally, to, again, be somewhat of a wingwoman. She's like, I know Wally and Ashley. Nobody left to pick, which were you confused? Because I was confused. I thought there were more guys.

It didn't seem like that many guys. There's four, there's eight dudes, I guess, so that might make sense. Yeah, it's like 10 or 12. I was like, who are we missing? Yeah, because the Wain doesn't pick him. She goes, Wally, you're with me. Yeah. Come on, I'm going to buck up, pal.

but she's going to put in some work for Ashley which she does we see that but we get to the dates and this this was a fucking nightmare for me yeah they we just keep jumping back and forth but we start out with Luann nearly licking a mango off of Waleigh's lip we were very close and that is something Luann would do just to you know kind of mix things up a little bit Walee recognizing was like whoa whoa whoa Ashley would not like that and when Lou Ed brings it up to Ashley she's like did you do it and he's like did you do it and he's He's like, no, I told her not to. And she's like, damn, right, she did.

Yep, good. Yeah, he's very clearly, he's admittedly only got eyes for Ashley during any of this. So he is steering clear. Knowing Luann, that could have been a test, though. Like, will he let me? Like, no wonder. Yeah, and also knowing Luann, she could have very easily been into that, even though it could have been a test to start off with.

Afterwards, like, oh, that's kind of hot. I'm going to actually going to talk to Wally over here. Yeah, shit, like that could happen. And we know Lou likes younger dudes. So look out, Ashley. Look out. She might be gunning for Wally now. But Giselle's talking to her dudes, and she's got who she was.

She's with Ralph and, I forget, Phil, Ralph and Phil. Yeah. 61 and 63, they both seem like nice guys. They both seem similar as far as, like, where they are in their life. Like, Ralph's very sure of himself. Phil's very sure of himself. And, like, the best part about having Giselle in that she's like, I like guys that are funny.

I have not laughed once you two step this shit up be witty do something make me laugh clown like you what the fuck guys i think was it during this and yeah this is very confusing because we did jump around a bunch during this scene but i think jazelle during this goes to a confessional and she said something that contradicts what she said about dating her entire life that i've seen her she's looking for just a nice guy a normal down to earth got his like life he's very established contradicts herself in this moment because she said like Ralph's giving all of that right yeah or he's saying like you know you need lumps to connect with people and like yeah to be real this that he's very down to earth with it and she's like he's too serious for me it's kind of the vibe and then in the confessional she's like but he's like

a cool mac daddy and i like that i'm like but she's also like last year on potomac she said that she likes a guy who's been to prison i'm like what she likes the bad boys yeah so you don't you i think you like the bad boys i think this doesn't know what she likes yeah maybe she doesn't know maybe that's what the love hotel's really about because if you like bad boys you dated jason that guy's a nerd yeah just saying that guy is a nerd that guy's a nerd nothing wrong with nerds i'm just saying he's definitely like jason couldn't be further from a bad boy he was definitely not a cool mac daddy not even remotely no no no no but let's get to luane again and she's talking to mark and wale mark mark he's like you know he's good connection here he's like yeah you know you're

strong got good legs like a woman with good legs like Jesus Mark and Jerry are definitely in the same person because it just seemed like a spitting image of their date that they had in the clamshell with Jerry and it's like wait you're really into yoga that's what you do all the time I bet you probably also have a property on one

of these islands down here Jerry's over here surfing every day same guy same vibe same guy not really I don't think who was it was it Jerry that said that he was looking for fun and not love or was it Mark? Mark. Yeah. So I can't tell.

They're interchangeable. They're the same dude. They're honestly the same dude. But Lou goes to work for Ashley. She's like, Wally, I know you like my girl. You should write a note.

I was like, fuck yeah, write a note. And then go stick in those guys' face. That'd be funny as shit. Because Nicholas is over there being a weirdo. And while he's writing the nose, like, oh, you think I should?

She's like, yeah, definitely write a note. And he's writing like, I miss you, whatever, on a napkin. And you get a little cutover to Nicholas. Here's the thing. When he says what he says,

that was not a slip of the tongue that wasn't a oops i didn't mean it like that he meant what he said he goes have you done two guys like that yeah she's like whoa he's like oh i didn't mean that he goes yeah you did you're trying to be sexual because you don't know how to initiate that part of this this whole thing so you're just going to make a weird creepy statement about having a threesome and then you're gonna panic by the way the thing with ashley as she makes clear later is like she wants someone to take chart if you had said that to her and leaned into it like yeah you ever had a three some she probably would have been like i like this guy he's not afraid to go there he's very forward yeah he's very open about his feelings it's like no he's actually just being a creepy

sex freak yeah creepy guy and then he gets scared because she checks him on he's like oh i didn't mean it like that it's like you pansy if you're not do it at least fucking stand by it he's he's he's definitely the all talk no bite you know what i mean like the guy that in the text messages is like say it all kinds of nasty shit and then you get there and it's very basic missionary and he's like uh yeah so i i've got my hand on your shoulder older. Is this okay? Yeah, do you like that? She's like, you barely gray. She's like, well, I did touch your butt. She's like, you gave me a church grace, dude. Give me a church grace. Like, what the fuck? Goodbye. Summer movies, hello

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The mid, not mid season, but the end of the show, like, what's, what's happening this season, that's got me asking questions. That's got me asking a lot of questions, but back to Ashley. Have you ever dated a black woman, which Giselle also asks Ralph and, uh, Mark or Jerry, Mary, I'm just going to call it. Mary, yeah, oh, Mary. Jark. I like Jark better. Jarky. Spoiler alert, it's not really going to matter.

It doesn't matter. because they're both gone. But Ashley asks, have you ever dated a black woman? Probably the weirdest way to respond to this is you go first. No, just answer the fucking question. It's a yes or no.

Have you dated a black woman before? It's a very simple question. Jerry's like, yes, I dated a woman named Angel. It's like, okay. How about you? In high school.

In high school. Yeah. All right. So 60 years ago, whatever, it doesn't matter. And then Nicholas is like, I've never in my life,

not once. Have you ever dated a, And this pisses me off because he did this on purpose. White boy. He didn't say white boy first. He said, have you ever dated a white guy? And then he wanted to be cool and change up the way he talks, which is my biggest pet peeve on the planet is when you just change the way you talk based on who you're around, especially in this instance. He's like, you ever dated a white boy?

I'm like, you've never said that in your life, have you? Not one time. And now that you're talking to a black woman, you decide to pull that out of your pocket, fuck you, Nicholas. You sound stupid. I think he reiterated. I think he triples down. He says it three times. It was too,

it was way too many times. It was, he shouldn't have said it in the first place, but he did triple down. And part of me is like, I'm kind of happy we got this episode out of Nicholas because, obviously it confirmed all of our suspicions.

Sure. We had to go through this. Like, you know what I mean? This was like a trial by fire for us. We have to really sit through all of this and really be uncomfortable with the way that we were talking about him last week. And we were right.

But boy. You know, I'd actually trade that. I'd rather be so wrong about him and get a very nice episode out of this guy and he just seems like a really cool dude. I would have loved that so much better. Instead, we had to just sit in this the whole time. Just confirmation of everything that we thought to be true was in fact true. Shocker, not nearly as confirming as his occupation that we're going to get to shortly. Well, you know the guys that like a lot of guys just like to be right about everything.

Yeah. Do a podcast on Bravo. I would argue when we're right half the time, we're like, God. Yeah. I don't like that. We actually don't like being right. Like, oh, fuck, that that's true.

Damn it. That sucks. That means you're a terrible person. That's usually what it amounts to is like when we're right, it means somebody's awful. Fuck. That was true. Yeah, it's usually a dude and we know what we're talking about. We're like, oh, damn it.

Another strike for dudes. Exactly. It's dudes like you that give the blanket statements of men because of that. And once again, the blanket statements were correct because of dudes like you, Nicholas. But we get to Giselle and Phil. Phil, like I said, interesting character. He's got a home, home bases in Arizona. He's got a house in Bel Air.

So he's, I guess that's not bi-coastal. He just got two homes. But he does have a house manager, which to me says, I've got a big-ass house in Bel Air. But even if you're living in Bel Air, period, you got to have some change on you. Where's the gated community? Because I couldn't figure it out. I would imagine that's in Arizona. Yeah.

That sounds like Arizona. Keep them coyotes out, baby. The damn rat, darn tootin. Keep them rattles snakes out. Yeah, you know, fences don't keep rattles, things out. No, no, they actually, if the fences are flat and not space, they, they coil up next to them because they get hot in the sun. They bake by them. Anytime you're out west, if you're by like a metal side of building or anything during this, you better watch out.

That's where the rattlers like to snuggle up. It's good to know. That's a good PSA. There's no scarier feeling in the world. And I know this firsthand on the ranch in West Texas in Sweetwater. When you're walking, you don't see them, and you just hear, I've almost shit my pants a few times because that happens. They've got to freeze.

Incredible rattle noise, too. You've heard it to me. You freeze and then you scan the area and you try to figure out where he is. And then you try to get away from it without panicking because then they strike. And if you do kill one, you got to bury its head because they can still release venom if you touch one of their teeth and their teeth will still react. Kill a rattlesnake, bury its head, and then cut it off and leave the head under the ground. And that's our scary segment for today.

There's your scary segment of the day, but that's sleep well the night if you live out there. Or you're just on vacation. Yeah. And don't go any like storm sellers, stuff like that. Just be careful. Anyway, where are we? Giselle and Phil. Giselle says L.A. is the worst.

He's like, well, you know, you got to be the right. The way he responds, I think bodes well for just because she needs somebody that's confident, cool and just not going to get rattled. He doesn't. He's like, you know, you've got to be in the right environment. And she bites. She was like, Phil seems refined. He's established. He walks and talks like a man with money.

I agree with all of those things. Phil's intriguing. I like the way that he responded, even though I fully disagree because LA is definitely the worst. But Giselle was right the whole time. Just like, what do you even do you do you guys have jobs? Most of them? No. They don't, but that doesn't make, yeah, they, what that doesn't, like, I didn't agree with that statement because California, L.A. specifically is the most expensive place, like, ever.

They don't have jobs. They don't have jobs. Okay. Come, that's. They just send traffic all day. Who could have a job in that? That's true. That's true. You can't get to your job because you're in traffic all morning and all afternoon. Yeah, exactly. But I do, I love the way that Phil answered. He kind of put, put a lot of thoughts that I had about him because I was unsure about him. But I feel like all of his answers kind of put me at ease. I'm like, no. He could actually be a pretty cool guy. He put those sunglasses on, and I was like, oh, boy, I don't know about this guy. I think I'm in on Phil. I think I like Phil. I think I like Phil. I want to see more, which is, you know, as much of a compliment as I can give. Yeah, I think that's a big compliment in a show like this.

But Jay checks in on Giselle, which is nice, I guess. There is running the risk of being overbearing on these shows, which we are crossing that line with a few of them. But as she's doing that, Luann checks on Ashley and the boys. And she's like, oh, you got a letter, a little little, little, love note did you Nick is like dead set he's he's like I have one on one one on one

all right settle down just ask her to go for a stroll or something and you think his ego took a hit during that letter scene uh you think he's like oh I get it like while they seems like a nice guy and then his confession was like what the fuck it's like this motherfucker weird this motherfucker man

but in person you're like I get it you cuck totally it's how the game works you're a little cuck that's what you are Nicholas did you guys kiss last night when he walked you back, just to ask him. Just tell me about it.

Just want to hear about it. Yeah, did you like it? If he would say some shit like that. Absolutely. Nick and Ashley go off on a little one-on-one because Ashley asked him,

do you want to go talk? And he's like, yes, I do. And she literally says, take some initiative, dude, I need you to step up. If you want this to work, you got to step up and show me you want to step up.

That's big because of what happens later. Like, all you have to do is take charge, Nick. she's asking you to take charge do something about it but we do find out that uh after apologizing to luan jerry she's just not attracted to him and it's gone from oh this this guy cares a lot to i just met you guy can you back the fuck off of me yeah yeah i like the law of averages really played out with all the overbearing stuff because you can view wallace's note as a little overbearing a little much crossing the line that was a actually accepted it well it depends i think it just depends on who you're trying to impress to somebody like Ashley especially in the midst of

that date that she had over there she's got somebody that she has no interest in somebody who she has to hold his hand to show interest in her so that worked out really well for her and i feel like uh what was the other the positive one oh god oh uh sorry jay checking in on joselle check in a little check in on his girl that's what we want to see that's what joselle says in her confessional even though last week she said that he's not her type But we'll see how it plays out. She kind of reiterates the other two as well. Yeah.

Jerry coming over to check on Luann, very overbearing. Can't do any of that. Creepy. Shannon is actually a little overbearing on Ralph, but, you know, that's a different situation. Yeah, that's that she's just, she just is upset that Ralph didn't pick her as what's going on there. Yep. Let's get to Nick and Ashley with this fucked up scene. The most unsurprising occupation that he could have, because originally he was a diamond miner.

I was like, whoa, that's random as shit. what do you do now nick crypto of fucking course this is a crypto bro i if you had asked me what does he do for living i would say probably crypto yeah he probably brags about it he probably has an instagram account's like do you want to make a hundred thousand dollars overnight invest in dick coin like that's probably what he does so what i didn't expect at all i'm going to fact check that real quick too dick because i know that's got to be true yeah dick coin no I'm looking at his Instagram. Oh, God.

Oh, that's so funny. Dick coin. Yeah, that would actually be really funny. That's probably what he's selling. I wonder if it's actually really a meme coin. Dikcoin probably is a meme coin that some idiots are investing in right now. I'm not going to be able to find this that easily. Oh, well, Bing.com.

Wow. Ask Jeeves. Wow, what a time. What a time to be alive. Bing's still around? That's the official, like, I didn't even realize that that would work. When you go, apparently when you go on Instagram and then there's like a link on Instagram, Bing is the official search engine of Instagram.

Huh. No one says, let me go Bing that real quick. God, I just wish that Ask Jeeves still worked because let me go ask Jeeves is, wow. By the way, if anybody, I don't know who owns that. I'm sure Google or Bing or some big search engine bought Ask Jeeves. Yeah. If it's still available and you want to be a millionaire, fucking bring it back. Everybody would want to use Ask Jeeves from our generation.

Just spread some misinformation about Google and then bring back ass Jeeves. Oh, everybody's going to switch. Because like, let me Google something. Obviously, that's become a verb. Where are we right now, by the way? We're talking about ass Jeeves. But like, yeah, I mean, obviously Googling something has become a verb. but let me go ask Jeeves is sick.

That is so much going to let me Google it. Bring it back. Bring back Jeeves. Oh my God. Plus you've got a built-in AI voice. You can name him Jeeves. And just do the AI voice from Batman. Oh, man.

You think Michael Kaine would sign off on that? Probably not. What do you want to know? Don't forget about a Lamborghinis. I'll sit down with a nice, fernie branker. oh my god i need to be watched those movies let's get to night time because nick and ashley was a disaster like she asked him

what he this is the one shot that he tried to take and beat that guy she's like what you like physically a beautiful smile and a fat ass i'm like when you say it it sounds really gross some people can say things like that nick you're not one of them when you say it sounds i would argue that he could say it if he played his hand a little bit better throughout this whole process and she was actually reacting then drop a big fat ass in there that doesn't yeah i mean we've seen actually before on dates with people in the bravo verse and i hate watching them because i don't like how actually interacts on dates but they usually land a lot better than that he has not played his cards right at all and even she was turned off by it it's

like all right good let's get this guy the fuck out yeah he needs get the fuck out of it but we get to night time and shannon and earl are moving quick they smooch in front of the lounge awkward as fuck kiss she was her eyes were open at the time and like it was it made me uncomfortable you'll make me watch that Earl was like that was cool I was like this is a weird relationship guys marking my territory yeah this is strange that's exactly what is doing in front of everybody I was like look at me that's what I took my turn on Earl like all right too much trauma down big now it's getting weird yeah Shannon uh Shannon Storms the Pearl mm yep but that works Ashley and Nick are talking and

he's like, you know, I'm super touchy-feely. It's like, are you? Because Ashley is that person and you haven't touched her once. This is where you get him grazing her shoulder and him talking about, well, I touched your ass. Again, weird. Weird thing to say. And she's like, you gave me a church craze as we talked about it. He barely touched my ass.

That's a moment, Nick, if you're going to play this role, if you're going to try to be this guy and Ashley's giving you all indications that this is the kind of guy she wants, that's where you go. All right, stand up. and then grab her ass or do something like she's literally saying i don't know if that we've got a good move actually i don't know like i that that team when i said that that sounds like that's a salt brother but like i just i don't know like she's trying to give him a blueprint of like this is what i want you to do stand up stand up is crazy but like she's literally trying to lead him down this path of hey be more assertive with me and he's like he's just missing the mark completely every single time he does they get in the hallway later but

actually it's right now because they're walking back to to her room she's literally saying to him this is how i tell you that i'm into you i'm showing you where i live showing you where i'm staying i can't give you any clearer instructions nick you need to make a move if this is going to be anything thank god jazelle pops out of a room she's like i heard something out here So I heard some loud talking. Is everything okay? Then Shannon pops out of her room and then Luann pops out of your room. So while this is happening, there's a lot of ways to play this, right?

You're on a dating show with all of these women. You can make a joke about that. You could also just be like calm and be like, oh, I'm just walking your back. Hey, ladies, good night. Good night. Do you all want a good night kiss? Ha, ha, ha. Come on, Ashley.

Let's get out of here. So many of what you shouldn't do. You shouldn't scream and yell and holler and then say you're getting cock blocked by housewives yeah what a weirdo yeah i just again you're talking to women who you're trying to impress especially how many times we've seen this on where there's two episodes in and we've already seen a couple different instances where one person is trying to talk to another one of the housewives that they don't have interest in so that they put in a good word with the housewife that they do have interest in or vice versa we're seeing the housewives start to team up and try to get

information on other people so they can better serve their friends this is the opposite of that you're alienating you're like get the fuck out of my way lady fuck off i'm trying to make out with this girl yeah like what are you doing and you're 46 saying cock block what do you do but he's a crypto bro so he has a crypto bro crypto bro crypto bros don't age bro we did you see his cool earrings he's got one up here in the cartilage he sure does he's not like the other guys he's different no you see his eclectic tattoos they're cool yeah he's eclectic as fuck bro if you ask him what any of them mean you though I don't know all Like, this one's supposed to me.

It was pretty high one night, and I just doodled this little rubber ducky. And now, it'd be some stupid story. I was, like, in a retreat in Tulum and we were on a mountain, and, like, I walked out. And so, like, I saw this bird. And I was like, that bird's my ancestor. And so I hadn't tattooed on my scrotum. That's my what he would say. You know, Touloum has the best DJs, according to Luann.

Ralph should go check it out. She's surprised that he hasn't been there being in the music industry. But we get to the morning, morning after. And all the ladies have matching fits. they look great they have a very funny conversation about you know finances because they're let's face it they say imperfect we're all established we've all made our money we're all doing pretty well can these guys and i think this is a valid question with definitely you know they're used to a certain lifestyle with love on the line yeah sure they're like can these guys afford our

lifestyles like we're not gold diggers and i don't think that that's what they're saying at all it's like can they hang with how we live our lives have they seen the show will these things shock them Earl takes astray. You think Earl's got money? He's like, no, it's like, damn, based on what? Like, we don't have a whole lot of info, but, you know, apparently he's not, not having a lot of money. Phil. He's got enough money to keep a motorcycle in his garage for 15 years and never run it.

So, who knows? I don't, does that scream money? I've driven by many have broken down house with fucking, like, multiple motorcycles parked up front that haven't been ridden in use. Look, I'm dealing with what I have. And the only information I have about Earl is all of the trauma that he's gone through in the last 20 years. Yeah, same. We don't have a whole lot more than that.

That's a good point. But Shannon's trying to change the direction that she's going in. I've been with two narcissists in a row. I need a guy with a big old heart. All signs up until this point do show that Earl has at least got a big heart. And maybe that's what she needs. We'll find out if there's more there later. I'm also curious if they're editing a certain way.

Is Shannon being overbearing? Is Earl being overbearing? are they overbearing on each other i'm very invested in the earl the pearl shannon bador romance well you got to remember what uh jkb said about shannon so who knows that she he wants her to suffer or something that was the other thing he said there's a lot of things that he said yeah which which he did say that she was an absolute terror at all the producers and him so i don't know what to see yeah it's going to be interesting it's going to be interesting but speaking of jkb we get jkb with the ladies and the dudes and we get a little curb i didn't know this is part of the

show. I had no idea. We got some new guys coming in. I got some new fresh meat walking into this house today. But that means that we got to get rid of some of these guys are right now. And I was like, whoa, cool. This is a fun aspect. Let's get rid of like most of them. Pick two. Piss all of them off and bringing a bunch of other guys. Did you get this the same like inkling that I got? Because I got an inkling here. When uh, Joel's like saying some of these guys got to go, Jay makes a joke. He said, we eliminate Joel. Ha, ha, ha.

Did Joel take that personally? Probably. He looked like he took a little. He's like, oh, really, Jay? Oh, really? Jay, you want to get rid of me? I was like, he can't. You know that, right?

Like, you can't get a limit. You're the host. But I thought I've just. You got jokes now, Jay? Is that what we're doing here? You got jokes now. He goes, because you seem a little bit nervous, Jay. I was like, all right.

I think you're just kidding. It's just a goof, man. It's not that deep, bro. Like, I did get the hint that he was like, fuck you, Jay. it's just here's the and here's the thing too

how many times and it's been two episodes how many times have we seen JKB like four four tops so that's probably about four hours of work

the rest of the time you're just hanging out at a resort yeah let's be a little happier I just seemed like he didn't care for the the Jay joke and I thought it was kind of

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Subscribe now to ticklish business on your favorite podcast app, and let's talk about Old Hollywood today. Shannon, of course, picks Earl. No surprise there. Luann keeps... I also love that they all get one key. They can only pick one person. So Luann keeps Ralph, which is the best,

because Mark and Jerry are both, stupid and they're both like it's one or another right like we we both know that we got her heart pal she's like i'm gonna you know mark's been really nice and jerry's been really nice i had a good time but ralph's tall he's like fuck yeah lewann don't ever change she's taking the tall handsome fellow fuck jerry and mark they can go home and she just says look i'm bored with jerry and mark seems like he came out here to play and i've dated too many guys like that i'm not doing that and jerry is like shocked he's like what it's like what connection did you really think Yeah, that awkward kiss you shared on the beach?

Are you trying to grab her arm? Like, which part are you missing? I love to because, like, one of them, and I don't care which one, but one of them did say, I really thought it was just going to be a competition between the two of us. Like, I really thought it was going to be me or him. It was neither of you. It's very funny that even now, I don't remember which of them said it because, one, it doesn't matter. And two, you guys are the same person.

They are literally interchangeable. They're both old gray, white dudes. But us watching at home, we're like, uh, After that first date with Jerry, there's nothing here. Luann's done with this guy. Yeah, we knew that. Far away as possible. Then she starts talking to Mark.

He drops her. He's out. No chance that she brings him back. She's probably going to go for somebody like Ralph. We at home all know this. They do not. They don't even have to watch the show. I could have pointed at Ralph and been like that guy.

That guy can probably keep up with her. These two, no. They're just, you know. And she's like, it's not about their height. And she's like, she literally goes, it's not about their height. Yeah, it is. Yeah, that is it.

Yeah. Like, I just, I fucking lovely man, but yeah. Ashley picks Waleh, no shock there, and they smooch for the third time.

We got a kiss counter going on. And, uh, she lays it out. And this was surprising because there was a pool date scheduled. She's like, you know, I was going to give Nicholas the benefit of the doubt at this pool date.

He didn't show. Nicholas didn't show up to the pool day. Yeah. So. I don't know. Last night didn't play out how he thought it was going to play out. Perhaps. I'm not sure.

sure what his motives were, but that got him kicked off the show, which is hilarious, but he probably went to a sound bath instead. Oh, yeah, that's a good point. But Giselle, she picks Jay because at the end of the day, she's like, I'm loyal. Jay's looked out for me. I've got to look out for my boy. It does not mean she's into him. I don't think she's that into him.

I was surprised. I thought she was going to take Phil. I did too, but she's like, Jay checks the boxes. Jay has been checking in on me, so I'm going to get Jay another week here, another night here. I don't know what the time frame is, but Jay gets to stay. a little bit longer. Wow, really. Yeah, right?

Yeah, it's that long. Holy shit. I didn't know that. But we get a loophole. There's one key. Collective save. Who are we going to save? Four guys left.

I wrote down to the last chance workout on the biggest loser when you got like one hour left and then I put them through a horrifying workout that those people should not be doing because it's dangerous to their health. I didn't know this when I was a kid watching the biggest loser. Trash bags involved. Dude. Did you watch it? ever no i thought it was the most motivating like happy shit ever until i got like older especially

into the fitness industry i'm like oh my god what you were doing to those people's horrible for everybody everybody watching at home's entertainment you're putting yeah well through a hell you learn about you're like that's so unsafe no one should lose that amount of weight that quickly in like a fucking starvation boot camp like terrible and then if they eat they get shamed they're like you fucking cheated last night it's like they're trying to re-reesome renegotiate their relationship with the food and you have everything weighed out in a pantry. This is terrible.

To be fair, it's a certain somebody's favorite show in a certain movie that is also no longer good. His daddy's favorite show. It's daddy's favorite show. Oof. That whole movie gets thrown out. Because of three

people in it. Two of them much worse than the third. The third is just kind of a winy little bitch that says some off-color shit. Well, or the other two are horrible horrible human beings horrible yeah wow that was a funny fucking movie too i can't ever watch that again there's no way i could get through that movie i can't get to the first 10 minutes if you guys don't know what we're talking about like come on you got to know we're talking about yeah come on i would hope so but anyway they deliberate but let's uh let's figure this out

nicholas takes one last swing here it was a blessing to meet you out shut up nerd you're not getting picked. You blew your chance. And Phil kind of keeps in tune with how he's been. He's like, look, ladies, you've all been very inspiring. I think we have a lot in common. That's it. Perfect. That's all you need to say. Perfect. Don't don't even do much more. They deliverate. And Phil gets picked. So goodbye, Nicholas,

goodbye Jerry, and goodbye, Mark. Gark was short-lived. Very short-lived. They're just not, they didn't bring anything to the show. Like, the other guys in the show are, like, intriguing. It also makes our jobs a lot easier because they are just too close to being the same person It would be a nightmare Yeah, that's where you get the Jerry

It was Jerry who said, I thought it was a battle between me and Mark It's like, you guys aren't tall enough So shit And I love Ashley Like just being true to Ashley She's like, I wish I could say I have this connection with Wallet

I really like the guy My coochie picked him I'm like, hell yeah There you go honesty, I love it, love to hear I see, Ashley. This is when you get the new cast of men. But the caveat, you can pick one of them. There's one key to check in a new man.

So you get a whole crop of dudes. One of them gets to stay. I would assume we're going to have another group hangout where you get to know them. And then at the end of them pick one. But you know what I would like much more than that? What's that? They don't get to talk. just got to pick you four get together you got to pick one of these guys without talking about

we get to hear each of their backstory beforehand like they go through like a quick little confessional i'm so-and-so that's what i do this one from sort of about boop boop boop boop trauma dump from all of them so that we feel bad when they go home yeah and then the the ladies don't get to hear that and they just have to yeah just you wow that would actually be really funny yeah i don't yeah i guess the guys that they did pick probably go somewhere else so that they don't get in the middle or no actually leave them out there so they get jealous i agree i agree yeah yeah they actually don't get to interact with the women they have to go sit somewhere else and just watch it happen that's what i'm saying like just make it horrible and i don't know why i'm in that mindset i feel

we have to it's just kind of funny i'm with you but let's get to some questions from Jamie Gibbs. How do you feel about Ashley possibly still with discount Jack Harlow? Walee seems better. I think it's hilarious that the two people she's with have one of them's name is actually a recording artist and the other ones compared to a recording artist. I don't know enough about either of these men to make genuine statements. I haven't seen anything negative about Josh, the guy she's dating in Potomac.

He catches a lot of shit, but like the only things we've seen to do is support her at her drag thing. so I kind of like Josh actually I don't know why he's catching a stray Jamie I don't know what Josh did to you yeah right why he's just out of Carlos oh yeah I see what you're saying yeah I think that's kind of rude by Jamie actually

let's just turn the question on Jamie yeah Jamie what's your problem with Josh what's your issue with Josh why do you mean to Josh Jamie huh that's not very nice what did Josh ever do to you have we beat it into the ground enough yet

can we move yeah we definitely have Now, we'll give you some redemption, Jamie. From Jamie Gibbs, is Shannon taking this the most seriously, unequivocally, yes. Yeah. She's actually taking this. Get it. But it's funny again, because I think I said this at the beginning of the episode, when we get to the confessions, I don't believe Jiselle and Ashley when they're talking about, like, you know, you got to be here for love. I certainly don't believe Luann when she's talking about how Jerry just, or Mark or whoever the fuck it was, doesn't seem like he's here for the right reasons.

You're not here for the right reasons. but yeah go to the confessional and say that you are that's fine but uh yeah shannon is definitely she doesn't really understand what's going on she really thinks that she's she probably thinks it's the bachelorette she's going to get married at the end of this honestly i wouldn't be surprised if that's her mindset yeah this is too late but is luans had a stanzo or is it brian's stupid fucking oh my god well yeah april in krell yeah if you don't know that that I'm so happy right now. It's a stanzo.

They're stanzos, but nice. You got to buy them in bulk. Oh, my God. Brian's stupid fucking hat is probably my favorite skit, too. That, I'm so proud right now. That's so good. April, you win questions of 2025. Yeah, you definitely do.

I don't do the voice. Don't do the voice. oh no we can't start we'll just sit here quoting for the next like 30 minutes let's see i'll end on this one this is a good one from bippity boppity blonde if we get a season two top picks for the four bravo celebs oh wait i'll combine that with vali a hundred deeks because bippity poppyty blonde made the joke of mo and pk being on this next year i'll combine this question with why not Carl Shep, Tom Sandoval, and Captain Jason for a he-made version. It's pretty much what we did.

Wow. Instead of a remake, a he-make. Good job. I like that. That's awesome. And we did start to do this last week. I don't know if this was Doring Love Hotel or during her news ups because, however, they're just going to run together in my brain.

But we did have, I think what we came down to was Shep, definitely. Sheff is a winner there. Captain Jason, yes. But my point that Captain Jason is too hot and would just, everybody would just walk in the attention. But wouldn't that be really fucking funny to see guys like Tom Sandoval and Shep like trying to compete with Cap and just get fucking knocked down every step of the way because they think they're hot shit. I thought so love. I think I read this right. Yeah, Valianjadiex wrote Tom S to differentiate between Tom Schwartz and Tom S.

I don't know which one you're talking about. got it though if you're talking about sandoval it's got to be sandoval oh wait no i think she's probably talking about schwartz see that makes more sense shorts would make way more sense because he was hanging out with i actually like that that cast works carl karl shep schwartz and captain jason's actually kind of that actually works really well yeah i would love that i do too uh nice work great cast valiantr deeks nicely done bravo but we made that cast last week i think not that not for Bate him. Don't take her credit. Don't you steal her valor. I'm pretty sure we did. I'm pretty sure we did.

You can tell people about that, you fucking liar. I'm wearing the shirt. So this fucking guy sends me a screenshot of his splits from the 10 mile broad street run to which he did no trading for. And I was like, wait, what? And he was like, yeah, I, uh, I'm drinking at Xfinity right now on stolen valor because I gave someone else my bib, which is, the funniest shit ever. I was like, that makes more sense. That's more in mind. Yeah. Yep. But anyway, you got anything else? Nope. All good here. That's our show, bros, got to go. American history is full of infamous tales that continue to captivate audiences decades or even hundreds of years after they happened. On the infamous America podcast,

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