Bros & Shows - Maternity Leave? No, Maternity Stay and Film Uncomfortably -Valley Producers (The Valley Full Recap S3E12)

Episode Date: June 19, 2026

What's up bros? What do you get when you rush into filming 3-4 months after one of your stars gives birth? TV that we shouldn't be watching. It makes no sense, once again, that we're sitting here talking about why they would possibly push to film so quickly while Kristen is going through postpartum and now we're making her FLY ON A PLANE WITH A BABY TO MEXICO???? Whatever the plot was, this show lost it a long time ago but this is some next level BS. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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a tough show. It's just a tough show. It's sad. It's just really sad. It makes me very sad to watch it. It's so funny too because you get all the Danny stuff. If it's a full Danny drinking episode, it's so frustrating and pisses me off. When it's not that, you realize like, oh yeah, the rest of this is just really, really sad and depressing. I don't feel good watching it doesn't make me happen yeah when i get done watching an episode i don't feel good i feel bad i feel like borderline depressed i'm not gonna like yeah like you know where like creeps into your stomach almost just kind of like me i don't i don't like this that's how i feel no no as there's a drive in a deep left field by castellanos it will be oh man it's eight o'clock

and so that'll make it a i don't need the spotlight i shone i shone i shouldn't need the spotlight i I'm just fine. Hi, I'm Karma. And yes, I am a bitch. Brov Bros. Good afternoon, everybody. Welcome back to another episode of Bravo Bros. Your favorite podcast from The Bros.

For everybody, for whoever wants to listen. I am your co-host, Steel Russell, joined as always by Puerto Valleguiz. I think I've called you that before. We went on a trip to Puerto Vallerta before. And I believe I was able to bring that one back. Yeah. Yeah, that does sound familiar. This was an episode, which gives credence to what we've said a lot.

We said it a lot in the beginning of the season. I think what you want, but me personally, I think that the entire show should have just gone on maternity leave. Like, this is tough. This is not. It can't be fun for the mothers that have, like, less than one-year-old babies to be filming a show. It's definitely not fun to have to bring those babies to Mexico with them while everybody. else is just drinking. Half the cast was able to get babysitters. The other half has to bring their babies with them. They're not having fun. Then no one else is having fun. And it's very reasonable.

And I understand why. But like, why? Why? I agree. And like, let me just go ahead and address this now. Because I know that we're going to hear this in the comment section. We're not saying that you can't show real life stuff on TV. We're not saying that mothers shouldn't be able to go on here and talk about their journey and show the hard parts and all of those things because we've seen comments where people are like, I actually like the baby stuff because it's very relatable. That's great. I get that. Not personally get it, but you know what I mean. My point is when you have Doty who has said in an interview that she wishes they had and started filming as early as they did. And when you watch the season play out the way that it has, I'm racking my brain trying to understand

why we didn't push production for at least another three months. Like get them to the sixth month mark and then do this because she's going through enough and we're watching it in real time. And again, like that's real life. I get it. But that can't be conducive to her mental health and trying to get through this journey. So I don't know. I feel like we just jumped the gun on recording way too early. And we're kind of, we're seeing that.

And like, I'm not even going to fault anybody really. Like I'm going to talk about it later when we get there. I just think it's a lot. It's a lot to deal with when you're also a first time mother, postpartum depression, like all of these different aspects are playing into it. And she has said, like, I wish we had started filming later. So I do not understand the need to rush cameras back and get them on camera this fast and this early. Because this is now what we're seeing.

We're seeing what happens because they rushed it. It's just, it's very funny to me too and not funny. Ha ha. You go back to the reunion. They end up rushing the reunion. They start filming the reunion after episode like four or five. which we initially questioned and then realized why they did it. And it's because both Nia and Doty were like eight months pregnant at the time.

So like, all right, we can't force you guys to be at a reunion after you give birth, like right after you give birth. But then you make the choice to start filming within like six or seven months of them having the baby. So that doesn't make any sense. You can't do both. It shows me at the reunion like, all right, I think that was the right call. And then you somehow flip the script and go to the other end of the spectrum by filming so early that this is what happens.

months, dude. It's been two to four months. Yeah, maybe it has. Like, and again, like, Kaya's four months in this episode. Oh, does it say that? Okay. Yeah. Because I'm not, I'm never good at calling out ages of infants. Also, that would be weird if I was. Yeah, I don't think that's a good talent. I think that would be like, hey, I can tell how old that baby is.

Why? Why? Why can you tell how old that baby is? I don't think if you went up to a stranger and said that, they'd probably like, I don't, I don't want you to guess my baby's age. No, I actually think the vast majority would be like, oh, oh, yeah my baby is that because like you know if you're a new mother you're like you're counting the months and then you get up to like when we see janet's baby it's like 21 months old it's like all right we're getting in that territory you're getting close just say year and a half and just chalk it up to that okay try uh wait try i challenge you to next time when we're down the shore we'll go on the boardwalk

and you have to go up to a stranger and be like i can get so old your baby is i don't want to put myself in that position that's how you end up on a list but uh yeah I just we've talked about it before. It's just I think this episode really does encapsulate all of the things that we've said about this. And this is the product that you get. And that's where I say it's a choice. And it just shows me this is kind of what the producers wanted. And you know, we talk about Jeremiah, Jermaine, whatever the fuck his name is.

We talk about him a lot. I don't even want to talk about him right now. I'm just saying overall for any production company, for Bravo, for anybody involved in this who's pushing the show and running the show, this is a choice. And this shows me, this is what you wanted. You wanted Kristen and Luke at odds. And yes, Luke is a fucking loser. But yes, you wanted to see them at odds with a newborn baby. You wanted to see Danny constantly talking about four under four.

Nia stressed out with a baby. Danny not taking part in being a dad of that baby. Like there's just so many things that go into it. And it's like you guys were at a table going through what the timeline looks like for this show and what the storyboard is going to look like. And you get down to Kristen and Nia and you're like, this is going to be interesting. Let's watch these new moms struggle. Like that's the only thing I can think of and that's brutal. It just doesn't make any sense for a show that is supposed to be entertaining.

And I know you want to take a wild take on it and it wants to be the dark show on Bravo. Fine. We have enough of that with talking about Danny's drinking the whole time and Jesse being fucking broke, which was actually very funny when they get to the hotel in this episode. But those are the types of things that we talk about. This is, this is too far. This is just too much. I agree.

And, you know, I think the biggest thing is real life implications. like this is just not good for anybody involved. No, like it's not good for their mental health. It's not good for their postpartum. Like it's too much. You're asking a lot of them. I'm not saying that Doty can't handle it per se. I'm just saying it's asking a lot of a new mom.

And you're seeing that play out on screen. And I think they another three months, you know, like get them to six months. Like I said, I think it's a much different look at this show. But you're right. And like that's where the show pisses me off. If you want to be the dark show for. fine. There's definitely a niche there that that needs to be filled.

I'm not arguing against that. It's like, oh, it's a different take on reality TV. Fine. But like you said, you looked at the storyboard. You laid out what we're going to talk about this season. This shouldn't be it. It's not fair to Doty. It's not fair to Luke.

It's not fair to Kaya, honestly. Because it's too much. It's just too much. It's not fun to watch. It's dark. Not in a fun way. and again to the people that are like, I actually enjoy this season because it's very relatable. Like, that's okay.

Like, I understand where you're coming from. It's just for the, for the masses, I don't understand why this is the product that they're pushing out there. Why we couldn't have waited a little bit longer because I think we would have gotten a better show. Definitely. And I would actually challenge those people who have been in our comments who have said I enjoy watching that. I can understand up until this point, up until this episode, what you enjoyed watching. You enjoy watching the trials and tribulations of having a new baby,

completely and utterly fine, not for me, but if you enjoy that, absolutely fine. This episode, I would challenge you to actually say, oh, I enjoyed watching that because that is real life. That's the, that's the maker break for me. If you still enjoy it, I'm going to question everything about you. But if you did say, you know what, no, this was too far.

This is a little too much. Then that's where we kind of reel you back in a little bit. But again, in terms of rushing cameras, I just want to ask you, is there anything else in this group, aside from Nia and Kristen being new moms, is there anything else in this group that would actually warrant rushing cameras? Go through everybody on the list. Go through everybody on the cast. Do you want to see like, I go to Britney immediately. She's getting her mommy makeover. Okay, she could have done that in the off season. I understand. Oh, you're saying if we had to rush to, I thought it was a hypothetical. Like what is the reason? What is the reason for rushing? Is it just to see. It literally, it literally. is for the babies like that's what i was going to get to that's the thought process where you kind of go down the line you're like you don't really need to rush to get back to see what danny and janet and jason are going to be doing because that's going to happen regardless so there's no need to rush there

you don't need to rush for zach and benjy because they're going to be there and hopefully benjy's there moving forward because he's got more words every episode i'm really enjoying that but there's so many things that you can look at and you're like lacy michel jessey not really you can still wait for that too like you can wait to see where the cards fall out i just don't understand and it does make any sense. The only thing I can point to is you rush for the babies, which this is what you get when you rush for the babies. And I can't imagine anybody watching this episode and being like, wow,

they really did a good one here. They really showed real life. It's like, no, no, there should be a stop right before that. Yeah, and I think that, and then we'll get into this episode a little bit, but I think that, you know, if you asked Doty, like, hey, do you like that this is on camera? Like, are you happy that this has been put? it out to the masses, I'd be very curious what she would say.

I'm not saying anything negative about her. I'm just, that's a genuine question. Like, if she watches this season, is she stoked that these moments are on camera between her and Luke, her, you know, at the airport and like all of that stuff. Like, yes, again, I get it in real life. I'm not telling anyone what they should and shouldn't be comfortable sharing on camera. That's their prerogative. I'm just genuinely curious.

But, yeah, let's jump in. And we start out with Brittany and DeLen, I'm a recap in the 007 party. And I was actually proud of Brittany in this scene. I wasn't expecting this because Danny and Nia come up because obviously they're all in the roof, getting into it a little bit. And she actually defends herself because she brings up. She's like, you're very protective of Nia and Danny.

And Doty confirms that. It's like it's just when it comes to her, like I'm not allowed to have an opinion because you have blind loyalty to this woman and you defend her to the death. So I feel like I can't say anything even if I'm feeling a certain way. And by the way, and I think this is valid for multiple people in the group when it comes to Doty, Nia, and Danny. Everyone's allowed to have opinions. Like he's the one doing things, you know, and like we see that in our comments.

There's people that are defending him at nauseam, which is nauseating. But Doty wants to say like all of your feelings are valid and I want to hear everybody out. But when it comes to those two, that's not true. I will give her credit most of the time when it comes to a topic, she's a pretty good listener. And she'll kind of take what people have to say into account and then make a decision based on that. Danny and Nia come up, it's totally different.

It's like a hard left turn. It's like, nope, absolutely not. You're going to talk about them because they are the all-American family. They are the superstars of the world. And you're not allowed to talk about them like that. Yeah, this is the one thing that I will not give Kristen a pass for. I give her a pass for pretty much everything else going on this season because it's not really her fault.

This one doesn't make any sense. And again, we have current news showing that she's still defending them like crazy, even after all the shit that we've watched on TV. This is, again, this is don't make me agree with Brittany. How dare you do this to me? I don't want to be in this position. It's sort of what we're in on in the city where now I'm agreeing with Danielle. Like it's it's a fucking bizarro world where the people that I used to like are now making me agree with the people that I used to dislike. It doesn't make any sense.

And this is, again, the one thing I'm not going to give Kristen a pass for. And it also goes to say what we've been saying for the last couple of weeks, a lot of times it's like, all right, you're kind of blinded by your rage against Janet. So I do understand where you're coming from. It's still wrong, but I get where it's coming from. This conversation was not bad. This was not about Janet at all. We're just talking about Danny and Nia.

This is Brittany alone with Kristen talking about Danny and Nia. So it's really just what are Kristen's feelings about Danny and Nia? What are Kristen's feelings about other people bringing up things about Danny's drinking? And Kristen goes to bat for them immediately. So no, this isn't about Janet. So now I've kind of put that by the way. and I'm looking at this so differently. Like, Kristen, please.

Like everything else, again, I'm giving you a pass for so many different things. But this one, no, you can't do that. You should at least be open to listening, especially when it's Brittany. If it's anybody else in the group, if it's Lala trying to have her moment, Michelle out of nowhere, if it's Janet, of course, yeah, I get those things. But this is Brittany talking to you, who's been with you for a long time, who knows how you tick, who understands what's going on. And Kristen even says that in her confessional.

Like, this is so bizarre. This is so out of left field from Brittany to do this. I've never seen her talk about things like this before. It's like, no, she's talking to you because everybody else is talking about it. And we're finally having that conversation, which is why it's a lot different, especially a different feel for this episode. When it comes to Danny's drinking, we're talking a lot about it. But it's the right people that are talking about it. It's Brittany not really having an agenda just saying, hey, Kristen, what do you think about this?

Not really pushing anything, just asking her. And we now know where Kristen is. And it's like, dude, what the fuck? What is that about? That makes no sense. You're supporting these people more than you're supporting Luke, not that he deserves support, but you're supporting them more than you're supporting Luke.

That doesn't make any sense because Danny's done worse things than Luke is done. And that's just in front of your eyes. We don't know what he's doing off camera. So that makes no sense to me. I just don't really get it. I don't understand where all this support is coming from and why the leave them alone is coming out of it out of all of this. I have no idea. But I'm glad that Britney said like it's a surface level friendship.

And yeah, they're super helpful on camera and all these other things. And I mean, shocked that Brittany has. had the balls to say that. I'm glad she did. But we have like a actual moment where you can see the hypocrisy of the whole thing because she's like, you'll see it eventually. You'll see it eventually. I was like, yeah, hopefully she will. And she's like, how would you like it if I say this about somebody you were close to? She's like, you mean like Janet? She said, well, Janet's done something to me.

Well, Danny's done something to a lot of people in the group. So it is the same thing. Honestly, what is Janet done to Kristen, by the way? I don't want to like dig up old bones. But as far as I'm concerned she was going after Danny and yeah she used some over overbearing terminology when she was talking about him but did she do anything directly to Kristen that I can remember it's like in the heat of the moment I'm not even going to count that in the heat of the moment of defending Danny yeah maybe she said some things to you but aside from all of the Danny shit has Janet really said a lot about Kristen probably not I think I would remember so I don't really get it it's not the same thing so don't compare and like you said that's the hypocrisy just kind of showing

it's ugly face. Yep. But let's get to Zach and Jasmine. We're doing butt facials before we're going to New York, which was a very funny scene. And we get just a Benji update here because obviously we know that there's issues with the visa, although Judge just overturned the $100,000 fee that comes with H1SB. So ha, fuck you. I don't want to get into it, but that's good news.

It's very good news. So hopefully that makes their journey a little. bit easier. Hopefully Benji's able to apply for it now and get it in that whole thing. So that's something to be happy about. But Zach is also talking about the future because Jasmine's, why don't just get married? Get him a green card that way. And he's like, well, obviously I would in a heartbeat, but right now I want kids or I think I want kids. Benji definitely wants kids. I don't want to get married and then realize I don't want kids. And now it's a like non-negotiable. It's a deal breaker. Now we get divorced.

which I respect. I think that's a hard decision and I appreciate that he's thinking it through. Like he's not jumping the gun and being like, fuck, let's just get married and then dealing with the ramifications later. They're actually sitting there and talking about it and having conversations to try to figure out what the best step is. And I think that that's one thing we've seen with Zach and Benji that is really interesting is they have a very pragmatic approach to their relationship. And I appreciate that a lot. Yeah, I really appreciate it too. I also really appreciate scenes with two people that I have no problems with that I actually like. The relief on my face when it's just Jasmine and Zach walking in and no one else.

I'm like, ah, thank God, a little reprieve from everybody else. I can't stand anybody else on this cast. So thank you for that. But yeah, again, whenever we get these scenes of talking about these people's lives, the people that we actually like, they're always enjoyable. They're always good. And this isn't necessarily like a very happy moment. this is Zach trying to

like wrestle with the future and what he wants to do. I enjoy watching that. I want to hear what Zach is doing with Benji, what he sees his life like in 10, 15 years, whatever it might be. And then even the conversation about Danny, which I thought was a little insightful, again,

I still think Benji probably told Zach like, hey, I caught Danny drinking. So when he's asking Jasmine and talking to Jasmine about it, it's not super dark. It's not super like filled with agendas of going after Danny. It's just a normal conversation. What do you think about what's going on here?

And while we don't get a ton out of that, it's still a normal conversation versus all of the other things that we've been seeing going on where somebody gets super defensive or somebody's playing offense way too strong. It's just a normal middle ground. Like what do you think about what's going on? I don't really know. I mean, if he wants to drink, like I kind of understand that part of it where he doesn't want to drink around people, but he shouldn't be hiding it. And then when he's hiding it, it's going to create more hot water situation. So like, it's a very normal conversation about his drinking. And then we find out something personal about what Zach is going through.

All the while, he's getting a butt facial, which. That term just doesn't make any sense to me. I feel like you should come up with something better, like an aschal or a butchel. Maybe a butt scrub. What about like a butt scrub? Because butt scrub, butt scrub works, cryo butt. I don't know.

These are just off the top of my head. An ass peel actually works. Oh, wait. What about an ass mask? An ass mask. There we go. Now we're good. We are so perfect now.

But facial just doesn't do it for me. Because it's almost like you're calling somebody a butt face, which no one wants to be a butt face. I was going to an ass mask. Yeah. So just a quick ass mask. I'm with you. Yeah. But let's get to Janet and Jason who are quickly becoming my favorite people on this show,

which is fucking hysterical. But it's been fun, honestly, like Janet kind of leaning into the villain role, but not in the way that she's like, I'm going to double down and be a huge monster. It's more so leaning into like, yeah, half the group hates me. And it is what it is. So I'm just going to kind of do my thing. and have fun, whatever. But like watching her FaceTime Brittany and be like, you know, I ordered banners for Zach's

birthday. I think it's funny as shit when she leans into the best friend thing with Zach now, which I never thought I would be here, but here we are. The thing, the conversation that she has later with him, like, oh, you are trying so hard, but it's still funny. It's, yeah, I think it's hysterical. But they're just setting up for what we're doing in Mexico. We got Schwartzopalozo.

We got Zach's big gay birthday. And then we got Danny's Miami Vice birthday. a very funny. I thought she's like, like, you need another advice. I'm like, usually that would be like,

oh, you're doing too much, but I kind of like that one. Well, that works. Well, let's get to Mexico. First and foremost,

this is on the same camp as whoever took a picture through the window of Amanda and West's apartment or whatever. Yep. I was going to say the same thing. Stop it. Fucking knock it off,

you weirdos. Yeah. Jail and no phone. You're allowed to have a flip phone with no camera from there or not. Who the fuck is taking a picture of somebody in the bathroom. One, two, while they're changing their child who is naked.

What the fuck's the matter with you? Like, that's insane. I felt so bad. She's already going through it. She's an anxious traveler. The minute you get to Mexico, that happens. If you're actually a fan, if you actually enjoy these people, then why the fuck would you do that?

Like, that shit pisses me off. That's literally one of those situations where you go to the bathroom, you walk in, oh, shit, it's Kristen Doty, changing her baby. I'm going to go to the bathroom. I'm going to leave the bathroom. I'm going to tell my friends, I just saw. Kristen. That's it. That's what you do. Maybe, maybe you wait until she gets back, gets situated. You take a picture from afar while they're all walking. You take a picture of the crew walking.

You're like, oh, they're filming the valley down here. That's cool. They're on a trip to Mexico. That's it. That's all you do. You don't take a picture in the fucking bathroom. That's like, I don't know, it's somehow worse than guys walking in and peeking over the journal and making comments or trying to hold a conversation, which don't get me started on that. When people have conversations in the bathroom, like what is going on? that's the worst thing. You're washing your hands and you just see two guys walk in and they carry a conversation while peeing bizarre. That's bizarre behavior.

Unless you're hammered at the bar, that's okay if you just don't talk about it. Because that's a different, way different situation. That's more of a bonding moment. It's different. If you're stone cold, sober, it's the middle of the day and you're peeing next to somebody the urinal. Yeah. Eyes forward.

No. Eyes forward. You know, there's rules to urinals. I may not know that. So we've got to get back to the rule book on that one. But yeah, I felt bad about her. And, you know, Lala mentions like she's concerned about or she got travel anxiety to begin with. And maybe there's something more going on here, which, you know, the postpartum's kind of kicking her ass, which is really sad to watch.

But we get to the spinner van. Doty's still upset. Baby's crying. Brittany's like, if y'all dare me to make out with somebody, I'll do it. I'll do. I'll smooch everybody with tongue. With tongue. With tongue.

I'm so tired of these. Tubes. She was actually making me laugh this whole episode. But when we get to the resort, it was objectively funny. And then sad. Not sad for Jesse, but sad for Jesse's child because he can't pay fucking health insurance. His credit card gets declined for insufficient funds.

I thought he was going to go with the, oh, I'm traveling. I got fraud alert. No. He just said, I got to use another card. Just further proof.

And I feel like it's good for Michelle because she's kind of getting vindication in a lot of different areas where leading up to this season, we were kind of not back and forth. I was still team Michelle. But it was also like, there's two sides to every story, you know, like they're getting divorced. Obviously, they don't like each other. The more that comes out, the more it points to Michelle's telling the truth. Yeah. Jesse lies. Yeah.

It's incredibly funny that they say insufficient funds to. Like, what an embarrassing moment. But also, if you're Jesse and your. you're just trying to carry on the charade that you have money, even though you don't have money, check your fucking balance, buddy. Like, that's something you learn when you're like 18 or 19 years old and you want to impress a date. You're like, oh, shit. All right, I've got like $256 in here.

You're reading all the menu items. You don't want to get the insufficient funds report. That's ridiculous. At least keep an eye on that if you're trying to live this life and make it look like you're doing something that you're not. So that was just very funny. And again, like you said, very, very good for vindication for Michelle, especially her overhearing it and being able to walk away and snicker a little bit like,

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This is the real reality. Subscribe now wherever you get your podcast. Well, I think now is it good a time as any to just take a quick little ad break and then we'll get back to the rest of our Valley recap. All right. Well, let's get to Doty and Luke. And this is obviously a very sensitive subject. It's very nuanced.

There's a lot of layers to it. I understand that we are also dudes. So we will try to speak on it with as much sensitivity as possible in regards to the postpartum thing and everything like that. So clearly they're going through it. They're budding heads almost at every single turn. And this is why we question should they have been filming right now. I don't even think that they want this on camera, to be honest.

And Luke is, you know, asking her, like, we're back to the room. Is everything good? Like, take a little breather. And she's getting pissed off because he was, he references going downstairs and like grabbing a drink when she feels up to it. And she's like, oh, well, in a perfect world, you probably just go out and I would stay here with Kai and you go hang out with your friends. Just going to get fucked up every night until you can't see straight.

In Luke's defense, he didn't say any of that. None of that was spoken. And there's a middle ground here of I'm not saying that Doty's wrong. I'm really not because I can't imagine what it's like going through that. Lots of emotions. And you're traveling all day. Baby's crying. Baby's pissed off because of the sleep regression.

It's like one thing after another. But I also can see why. why Luke would get upset at certain things because she's saying some mean shit. And I think the biggest takeaway that I got is it's hard to look at those two in these one-on-one scenes and like quote-unquote pick aside, right?

Because I don't think that it's that kind of situation where it's like, don't he's wrong. It's like, nah, she's going through a lot. So what I look to is the group. We've had a lot of people in the group say that Luke is super supportive and super helpful. Is his tone great? no and I think that's where a lot of this kind of misses is because he comes in with like a

tone and when he comes in with a tone I think it sets things in the wrong direction I'm not saying that his feelings are invalid but I'm also saying she's going through a whole lot and I know that it hurts to hear certain things but maybe also like go vent to your friends and bite your tongue yeah and this is something that we've talked about with what we versus what we don't see and the little scenes here and there where we see them in a good place and we see Luke being supportive and trying to be a good dad. That is just washed out entirely by all the bad scenes. So operating with what we know, I can say that the majority of his feelings are definitely

invalid because he just gives off this vibe of like, now you've got this baby. It's like, fuck Luke. Everything I do is wrong. It's like you've got a baby right here. That's where he loses me too. He's like you, but I'm a baby. you have to baby me. Like this is my first time.

It's like, all right, you're not a teen dad. I'm sorry, but like you are and I know we reference it later where Kristen's like he, and I have to remember that he's 34 years old. It's like that's not 22. He's 34. Like I know he's a new dad, but it's not like all of a sudden he just got this baby sprung on him. And he has to wrap his mind around what's going on and try to figure out how to be a dad.

Like, yes, there are nuances to a lot of this is new. There's nuances to we're filming. and we're on a trip where the majority of our friends who have kids have gotten babysitters to watch the baby while they're home. There are a lot of things that go into that. And especially when he says, your sister and brother-in-law are here. Like, why are they even here?

That's a la Danny down in San Diego. It's like, okay, but like, no, you should still hang out. It's not helpful. And I do think in that moment, just watching it, there's nothing he could possibly say to Kristen to get her back to a good place where then he can go on and just go downstairs, go in the pool, grab a drink. and won't immediately be hated for it.

But also, there's nothing he can do to sit there and watch Kristen with the baby where she's still going to be okay with him. Like, she's going to say something passive aggressive, like go out of here. You clearly want to be somewhere else. Like, go grab a drink or something. I'm fine here. That's the best case scenario that I think he could have had. So I understand it's frustrations.

I get all the frustrations and everything. But it does seem like his vibe, his feelings at every turn are, I just feel like you've got this baby and like you don't even care about me anymore. Like my feelings in the matter don't matter. It's like, oh, there's way better ways to do that. And therapy will probably help. So maybe start doing that. But I don't feel bad for you.

This baby wasn't sprung on you. You plan to have a baby. You had a baby. Your guys are engaged. You're 34 years old. Like grow up at some point. Yeah. And I think, again, because we go to the pool after that.

And he's talking to Zach. And we look to Zach as our barometer for most situations. And even Zach's like she makes it seem like you're not on her side, but you're always on her side. So that is the stuff I take in. account. I don't really listen to Luke. I don't really listen to Doty. I'm like, what are you guys seeing? Because Zach, you're there in between cameras. Like, you actually know what's going on. So I do think that he's trying. But again, like, he loses me when he gets into the specifics.

Like, yeah, if you had said the way that you talk to me really hurts my feelings and leave it at that. But you try to take it a step further every time and say, now that we have Kaya, and it's like, well, now you've lost most people because you're doing too much with the conversation now. Just keep it to you're being really mean and it hurts my feelings because I think that's valid. I think that's okay. Also understanding that she's going through a lot and this is postpartum and there's only so much she can do.

So yes, it's heavy. Yes, it's a lot. Yes, I can understand some of the things that he's saying. But yeah, when he starts to get to the like, you know, I'm trying my best and like I'm a new dad and you know just because kai is here like i still have feelings too it's like yeah you're you're missing it you're missing it there but i do think that there is some validity too like she is really fucking mean to him and like that has to be difficult especially because i think the hardest part and this would probably rectify the whole situation is the fact that she says

that stuff and there's never uh hey i didn't mean it i love yeah and i think that's probably where it stings and kind of compounds. It stings for him and I think it stings for us too because again they don't highlight those moments. So even if those moments do happen, we don't see them. Like we might hear second party like, oh, yeah, you know, we did have a good conversation. Like I don't know what next episode is going to look like, but maybe at the end of the night, they wake up in the morning and they have that conversation.

We don't see that conversation. But then Luke says or Kristen says, you know, we had a good conversation. I apologize because I'm, you know, high strung right now. The travel day didn't really help. And it's just we got off on the wrong foot. And I feel like now we need to have fun. I think we might get something along those lines, hopefully not more of the same because it is very depressing and very sad.

So I'm looking for for greater pastures, hopefully. But again, I agree with you. When he gets into the specifics, I'm like, you don't know. And again, I know you want like a soundboard. I know you want just like an empty hall to just scream your issues into. But doing it on camera, doing it to the rest of the group, it never resolves anything. it kind of forces people, and I hope they don't do this, but it does force people to take aside.

And that's just never a place that people want to be in, especially on a trip like this, especially on a TV show. Yeah, and that's what I'm trying not to do is quote unquote pick aside. I do think that he could be better in a lot of moments. And I think that's where he kind of loses me. Like here's a great example because they're in their room right before going out. The baby's losing her mind. It's the four-month sleep regression, which is a very real thing.

And it is like two hours straight of just crying, inconsolable crying. And they're in the fucking trenches right now. They're going through it. And I feel for them. But in these moments where you're like, you know, you're referencing, hey, we can go have a good. Like she's okay. She's just crying. Like we can go have a good time.

It's like read the room in those moments. Like she doesn't want to. There's nothing you can say that's going to get her to a place of, oh, you're right. you know what my sister's here let's just go she'll be fine right that's not going to happen so the more you're trying he's trying to do it in a nice way where it's like like it's all taking care of we're good it's irrelevant because she's focused on the baby right now the baby's losing her mind just be there in that moment about that and once you get through that then hey should we go to the party now but like trying to push it trying to press it and move things along quicker is not going to get you any

kind of result that she wants because she's going to get defensive and she's going to get upset. And we saw that happen. So that's a perfect example of like, I see what you're trying to do. No, you're not being a dick about it. But at the same time, you're not recognizing this situation and what she needs from you right now. She needs you to be there and offer support with the baby. And the party shouldn't be referenced right now. You shouldn't talk about the party.

Party should be on the back burner. And if you guys can figure out the baby, then maybe you go. because if you don't, what's going to happen is you're both going to go, you're going to fight and somebody's going to leave crying, which is what happened. Which is exactly what happens. And again, us watching this from our perspective versus in the moment, it's obviously very different.

So it's not like I'm saying he should have done these things. We're just saying there's a better way to do it in the future, maybe learn from it, which up until now we haven't really seen a lot of learning experiences going on. But I think for him, it's almost like he starts off okay. Like he starts off saying the right thing. He's like, hey, you know what?

Let's not panic. The doctor did say that we were going to see this. We were going to see the sleep progression. We were expecting this. It sucks that it's happening now, but we were expecting that. As soon as Kristen says something negative to him, he just gives up hope. And then he goes negative. And it's almost like he starts doing that thing where he's fighting fire with fire.

And up until the fire with fire thing, he might be right. He might be correct. You might be in the correct position. It doesn't mean you're ever going to get like any praise for it. And I think that's what he wants to where he's like, hey, I just need you after a moment like that to stop and be like, hey, Luke, you were right. And you're not going to get that.

And that's not just Kristen. That's really any marriage. You're probably not going to get that like, hey, by the way, you were totally right. You can't expect that. And I feel like he wants that super bad. And again, you might be right, but you're immediately wrong as soon as you start fighting fire with fire. As soon as you, I don't want to say stoop to her level,

but as soon as you get so upset that she's upset and then start being mean back to her, you lose. She doesn't lose, you lose. So I don't think that he really is piecing any of that together. And hopefully he does now. And again, hopefully that's that six, seven month mark, whatever we get to. As soon as that happens, then, okay, maybe you figure it out and you move forward. But right now you're clearly not understanding that.

And it seems like every time he does something like that, he's just immediately wrong. And then he gets even more frustrated. I mean, think about it like this. you have to try to have the presence of mind to when you hear you know i can't turn it off like you want me to be fucking heartless this that the other you have to know deep down like she's not being genuine when she's saying that but you go and say i'm not a piece of shit like you tell me i am i'm like that's not going to do anything there's nothing's going to come from that she's not going to snap out of it and be like oh shit i'm sorry like i didn't even realize

I had no idea. I had no idea. I said that. Like, that's how you feel. You're so logical. You're so logical. It makes so much sense. Like, that's not what's happening in this moment.

It's just reading the moment, reading the room, understanding what she needs in that moment. Honestly, what she needs in that moment, there's probably not one thing you can say. Even if you say all the right things, it's going to work, just be there. Just stand there. Stand there. Grin and bear it. And then go vent to somebody later. But like, this, this is why it's just missing each other.

Because he's gotten to a point where he's like, I deserve to hear that she doesn't mean it. I deserve to hear that, you know, she's thankful for what I do for, all of these things. It's like, well, that's not going to happen. And if you're expecting that, it's going to lead to more resentment, which is what we're seeing now. And on the flip side, like, I don't think Doty hates you at all. And I'm sure. And that's where it gets tough.

It's like, I'm sure it's hard to hear that shit all day. And if this is what your days are like, like, yeah, that's probably going to build up and compound. but how you talk about it from what we've seen is where you guys hit some turbulence. Because when you go into the conversations, you already have like a defensive tone to it. And if history has not taught you yet, like that's not landing right now. She's not in a place where she can hear that.

So I don't know. It's like, do I feel for him to a certain extent? Yeah, I do. Like it sounds tough. But he's also not reading the room. He's understanding. That's also frustrating. Yeah.

Yeah. I think we did a good job there. I think we'll find out in the comments. Don't worry. You fucking pieces of shit. Yeah. That's all the matter of time. Leave it to straight guys to be wrong.

Yeah. This is why we hate straight men. Yep. Someone's going to say it. So look forward to that. But the party, this is the saddest. This party is a microcosm of, this show. This party

is the Valley. If this was BravoCon and this was the Valley Room and every other room was lit and people were having fun, this would be the Valley Room at Bravo. Set off the sprinklers in the auditorium and just drown everybody and then throw some electricity

out there and see what happens. That's what this is. It was just like, you know, the light up stuff everywhere, nobody's there. It's silent. There's no music and they're eating up buffet. This looked like a work retreat. This looked like a business retreat

for a company where they fly them out to like fucking the Midwest somewhere. Like a Margarita ville in Ohio. Grand Rapids. Yeah. Exactly. Oh, that was a good movie. I forgot about that one. Yeah. But as we're at the party, I love the Danny. He looks like a dad in Orlando

line. I agree. That in Orlando, Disneyland. Anything you could say against him, I'm always going to root for it. And now he's running around yelling, let's go, which I'm not equating to like the drinking thing. It's just another thing that's annoying. It's just annoying. Like even if it wasn't Danny, like I'm with Jesse. Like I'm not a let's go like the false confidence coming in there like.

Yeah. The shortest guy in the group too that does that. It's like yeah. God. Yeah. But I do love the Michelle and Jesse rapport that's going on now. I love the little jabs, but they're taking it in stride. They're laughing about it.

They're smiling. This is a good play. to be. This is where I wanted to be with them. And that's the thing. There are some little things in this show. I'm like, this is fun. I like that. I like this too. But it's so overshadowed by just like dark shit that I really can't enjoy it because like two seconds later, I'm like, oh, we shouldn't be watching this. We should not be privy to what's going on in this screen right now. No, no, absolutely not. And again, the reprieves are few and far between, especially when they're in the big

group setting. And you can see Schwartz just like the saddest person ever just kind of bop it around. Like everybody enjoyed Schwartz of Ballouca. Oh, yeah, this is not what Schwartz the Paloosa is supposed to be. It's just pouring rain. Like, you guys couldn't pivot to go somewhere else. Every one of those

resorts has some sort of indoor bar. Like, just go in there. Go do karaoke or something. They always have like weird shenanigans going on at night. Go do that. This is sad. This is depressing. it's very depressing there's nobody there and there's no music at least bring like a speaker do something this is just a bummer but that's when luke and dote come into the party and you know again he's going at it from a perspective of like you're not even hearing me you're not listening to the

things that i'm bringing up i'm like again not the time or place that's not going to work like i don't know what you want out of this that you're expecting to get that she's She's not capable of giving you right now. So like doubling down, especially when you're walking into a party. And he's like, you know, it's been great hearing all the stuff he said about me today. And she's like, if that's what you want to say now, I'm like, oh, and you're going to say like, oh, Luke's going to throw a pity party. And again, like, does it suck to hear all those things? Yeah, I'm sure.

And I'm sure it eats you up because it's like one after another after another. But the solution, this is just not the solution. And like, that's where I get frustrated with them. I'm like, what do you like genuinely? This isn't even rhetorical. Like put yourself an issue. Like, what's your goal? Like, what do you want from what you're saying to her in this moment after seeing the day that she had?

Like, what is a positive outcome that you think is actually achievable in this moment having this type of conversation? From Kristen, nothing from the group sympathy. Okay. I think that's what he was. I think he was just trying to garner sympathy. I think what he went through and what he keeps explaining that he's been going through is absolute hell. and no one sees it now we're here in front of everybody else you talk to me like shit you act like you don't but you do now everybody else knows now i'm bringing everybody else in like that's that's the

thing is like i didn't see this as as tunnel vision i didn't see this as like a full on blackout with rage where i'm just i don't care who's around me i saw this as oh you want to do this here let's do it here so everybody else can hear us and then i can garner sympathy from the by the way the worst marriage counselors of all time walking away and you can still see how maddy is it like look I'm not denying how upset he is. I'm not denying how frustrated he might be. Totally fine. Again, that just goes back into the realm of maybe you guys shouldn't be filming a season

when you're going through all of these things, but I guess the producers want us to see this shit. Pulling them aside, though he didn't even pull them aside. He just walked off and the two of them walked up. You can see immediately what's going on. His influence is Danny. When Danny starts talking and he's like, well, he started off the fucking sentence saying, you know women.

And I know what he went into was a little different, but you don't start off a sentence and saying, you know women, especially when a woman's going through postpartum, especially when you know what's going on. Daddy's like, you know, women,

they, uh, yeah, their hormones, man, they just, they get all revved up. It's like,

dude, shut up. And Dan, and fucking Luke, Luke is looking at him like, yeah, preach. Like,

yeah, absolutely. I know exactly what you're talking about. You told me about this before. I should have seen it coming. It's like, ah, God,

that's exactly where you're drawing influence from. Jesse kind of he's quiet and just ask questions. He's like, dude, it tries to be a sympathetic year. Like, yeah, that sucks. But what more, if you're a guy in that situation and another guy's going through that, you're like, dude, that sucks. Sorry, man.

You guys just need to try to hash it out. Just try to be calm about everything and figure things out. That's the most that you can do as a guy in that situation. What daddy's doing is just inherently wrong. Yeah. And Jesse's trying to take the approach of like, you know, because Luke's big thing that he keeps going back to is like, now that we have a baby, it's like Kristen and I don't exist.

Like that relationship doesn't exist. It's like, okay, well, it's been four months. Like, take a breather, relax a little bit. And also, like, yes, like priorities and things shift when you have a child. Obviously, it's still very important to have that relationship with your spouse or with the mother of your child. But there's a way to get back to that. And this is not the way to do it. And to expect to be, you know, hyper-focused on your relationship before you.

the baby or during all of this, like you should, again, time and place, you should know better. Like, that's not going to happen right now. That may not happen for another year. She has to get through postpart. And you guys have to figure out, you know, your stride a little bit, figure out what your schedule is, figure out how all this works, because you're still in the trenches. Like, you haven't even made a schedule yet. You don't know what's going on.

And you're traveling all over the country. Like, there's a lot. So maybe, just maybe, don't make it about you and Doty right now. Just keep it to the baby. And honestly, if you did that and spoke about Kaya and only Kaya in these situations, I think Dode would hear you more. Yeah. Because you keep going back to like me, I, me, I.

She's not hearing that right now, man. She is hyper-focused on the baby and what she's going through. You don't really matter right now. And that probably sucks to hear, but that doesn't mean you don't matter. That's probably the best way I can put it. You just, right now it's not about you. And I wish that he understood. that more because, as you said, like, your feelings aren't invalid, Luke.

Like, you can still be hurt by mean things. Like, that's normal. I get that. And there's a time and place that you can hopefully have a conversation with Doty when she's out of the woods to be like, hey, all, you didn't mean that stuff, right? And she's going to say, no, I love you so much. I'm so sorry. And you guys are going to be fine.

But you want this instant gratification of acknowledge that you're being mean to me. Tell everyone you're being mean to me. It's like, it's just not. the focus, my man. It's not the focus and keep getting on it. Yeah. But it's literally never going to happen. So just get off that train while you can because it's going to be so much better for you

if you stop thinking that way. And that's all he wants. And again, maybe early in your relationship, you see things like this and you're like, oh, yeah, that's what I want? You realize that you're not going to get that. What do you think now is going to happen? Like she has a baby and she revs up a little bit and does these things. You expect her to do it again.

Like you should have learned a long time ago when you guys first started dating. You're not going to get that. Just move on. on, dude. Just take the fucking lumps and then have the good times after that. And we, again, we don't see any of the good times. So who knows that they even happen? I just, it's just tough to watch. It's, it's really depressing to watch. It's just one of those things that we shouldn't be sitting here talking about. We shouldn't be talking about the ins and outs of their marriage mid postpartum with a four month old.

But that's crazy. Also, the effect on the rest of the group. Like, I know it's pouring out. I know it's raining. But they're supposed to be celebrating and having fun. And those are the things that we talk about. We need scenes where the whole group is having a good time. I don't need to see Janet and Danny pull aside and actually squashed their shit because it's never going to happen. But I do need to see them have fun. I do need to see them enjoy themselves. And when you do things like this and when you film in front of this, it's going to affect the whole group.

Like, all right, I guess, yeah, yeah. Well, that night went to shit and they'll blame the weather. But honestly, it went to shit because everybody's miserable. It's just, it's just really tough to watch. I agree. I completely agree. And you know, you get a little reprie with Janet and Zach where, you know, he says, French, did you just say friend?

Did you say friend? We find out also that Janet has a little bit of a girl crush on Michelle and that she's by. And if there was anybody who would be Michelle. And I don't know. Kind of pick me energy. I feel like. Oh, you think? Because when they splash back or splashback when they flash back to 2019.

Yeah, a little splashback. When they go back to 2019, I guess it was probably what, like season eight? of BPR? Season 9? I don't know what time. My 8 sounds right. And she's talking about she's like, oh, I love threesomes.

I absolutely love threesomes. It's like, oh, that's pick me energy. I know what you're doing right now. You're acting like you're open in your marriage so that Zach can be impressed. And then he wants to be your friend again. That's what this is all about. Yep.

But everything kind of falls apart. I mean, that's the way the night was going anyway. Brittany's back hurts. She can't stand up straight anymore after her surgery. So she has to go back to the room. Doty goes back to her room. That's another one that you can point to. Like, why are we, why are we going on a cast trip while Brittany's recovering from surgery?

I don't know. I don't know. Like, the choices that they're making on the filming of this, like the production choices are just dumb. Just like. Look, I will give Brittany credit here. She is taking it like a champ. I mean, she's doing jokes. She feels great.

She feels good in her body. I'm very happy for her. The fact that production is now saying like, hey, go on a trip to Mexico right now while you're recovering. and now she's trying her best to stay out and have fun and acting like she wants to make out with people. I'm sure all she wants to do is just lay and recover and they're making her work. Like that's tough. Yes, it is.

And it's the end of the night. You get some people talking about the Doty and Luke's situation. And this is again what tells me. It's like, all right. So I don't think he's just a monster and not showing up. I think that there's two sides to this because, you know, Lala's talking about self-sabotaging. Like, you know, I've known her for so many years, same behavior.

Schwartz is like never been in a well-balanced, healthy relationship, so it's probably jarring. So there's a lot of things working against them. Again, to the point where you're like, maybe we shouldn't have this on camera, maybe we shouldn't be filming this stuff while they figure out and navigate this whole thing. But what the fuck do we know? And you have Luke sitting outside of a room, like upstairs and Britney walks by. And she's like, hey, do you want to have a conversation?

I'm happy to hear you out. She just holds it against me. It's like that that's that's kind of our point. It's like the intro to that conversation. And as Brittany is going to say to you and she does say, she's going through postpartum. You have no idea what that is. You have no idea what she's going through the gravity of it,

the level of it. She's not, she's not really her right now. She's trying to figure it out while also raising a kid. So give her some grace. I give her grace all the time. Okay. Again, like yeah,

I'm sure you do. But needing the vindication of somebody saying that to you is where you're going to lose people because you're not going to get it. And the sooner you figure that out, there is a time and place for these conversations. You'll be able to talk about it. Just not in the midst of it. No. And like, fine, dude. We get it.

Like, shut up already. I don't like, now that you have a minute and you see his text messages and he's like, do you want me to come back to the room or do I just stay out here? It's like, leave it alone for longer than three or four minutes because that's what it seemed like to me. you still catch Brittany walking back up and we saw her leave. So that wasn't that much time. Just fucking chill out. Collect your thoughts. Collect your feelings.

And when Brittany does that, I was actually very happy that Brittany was saying something. Look, if you want somebody to talk to you, like, I'm here to talk to you. Again, she's struggling and she still turns around. She's like, look. She's being helped up to her room. Yeah, literally like an elderly woman.

She's being helped up to her room. And she's like, hey, if you need somebody to talk to, I'm here to talk to you. I'm like, uh, don't do the man apologist thing right now. And she doesn't. And I'm very proud of her that she didn't. She was standing up for Kristen, standing up for women, standing up for everything that she believes in. And then telling Luke, like, hey, dude, like, shut up pretty much.

Like, enough. You have to let her go. Just let her get it out of her system. Let her, like, chill out a little bit and finally start to relax at least now. But now instead, all we got was more fighting and more fighting and more fighting. And if you don't leave it alone, it's just going to keep exacerbating itself. So just shut up for a minute. And he just wants to keep going.

Like, you don't say those things to Brittany unless you're just blind. with rage. And if you're blind with rage, sit your ass in that chair for another hour or so until you calm the fuck down. Go take a walk down to the rainy beach and go, like, just drown your sorrows over there. I don't know what you want to do, but don't do anything else and don't go to Kristen's room right now. Yep, exactly. Exactly. All I can really say, like, again, we should not be sitting here right now dissecting this. Yeah. This should not be a con. We have to because it's on the show and we don't shy away from anything because that's who we are. But at the same time, like, this is so sensitive and so touchy.

And like, there's a million things to talk about, like the layers of it. So all I can chalk it up to is we shouldn't be discussing it. We shouldn't have access to this. They need to be figuring this stuff out. They shouldn't have been on camera this early. They should not be traveling this much. It's too much. And I think that that's adding, when the show starts to add pressure to these situations,

that's when it feels really icky. When you can tell that just by filming, it's exacerbating their problems. Yep. That's not fun. I don't like that. That's not fun to watch. Yeah, I agree with that. But let's get to some questions here.

From SDMWVU, I hope men educate themselves more on postpartum. I think Steele and I just tried to do that. We tried. I'm sure someone's going to yell us for it. But we tried. Yeah, we're going to be wrong somehow. We tried. We're doing our best from Rachel Ray. At least the episode wasn't about Danny's drinking.

Not really, but don't worry. I'm sure we'll get into it. Mm-hmm. Beck's Beck, Rebecca, no question, but this show is incredibly men's rights code. It's so fucking annoying. It's Jeremiah at the helm. That's why every show that he's on pushes the narrative of the dudes and tries to make women look crazy.

Like that's what happened with the BPR. That's what's happening with every show that he's ever fucking produced. So we can blame him. Uh, from Dilla de Jena. Is Kristen in love with Nia? The emotional attachment to her is greater than the one to Luke. That's what we were saying. She defends Danny and Nia so much.

And then when she gets to Luke, she's just absolutely aggravated by everything he does. It's very bizarre. Maybe she is in love with Danny and Nia. She's in love with their life for some reason. I would imagine that going through postpartum, going through pregnancy with Nia and especially now with what she's going through, that's probably a comfort blanket for her. Nia is probably the safe space.

So she like subconsciously leans on it without even knowing it because that's kind of her. That's her beacon right now. That's who she looks to for sanity. So I think that has a huge part of all of it. So I think that's why she gets so defensive. Mm-hmm. From 77 Carebearer 44,

I think the only reason that Kristen defends Danny, and Nia is because of their mutual hate for Janet. No, I mean, I thought that for a while, too, but I think that this episode and the scene with her and Brittany talking about it showed that she's just down to defend Danny and Nia for whatever reason. I don't think really, I think Janet is a good scapegoat, but I do think that for whatever reason, inherently, she wants to just defend Danny and Nia.

It's, yeah, yep. From one of our favorite usernames, Fool of a Tuk, this season is a bucket of turds. Sure is. Sure is. Yeah. And Zen Gabila, why is this show still happening? I don't know.

I don't know. From Amanda Rocky's mom, if we were to go back to season one, I would never believe the future me would say that Michelle is the best part about this show. Yeah, I mean, it is kind of a very weird term. This show is just weird in general. Yep. From Arlo and Blue, do you think that Brittany did a good job? in her combo with Luke at the end.

Yes, I do. I do. I did. Yeah. Let's see. There's any more in here. This is funny. The Jewelster.

I'm pregnant, so I can't watch Danny for the baby's health. The baby loves Atlanta, Rhode Island, though. That's fucking funny. Yeah. Good. Don't.

Yeah. Absolutely. And then we'll end on this one from it's in, have you an shooter ever gone on a tropical vacay ever? Who's the better traveler? We have not, I mean, we've traveled a couple times for the show,

but like not really flying anywhere, necessarily. No. A tropical vacate, no, we have not. You haven't done that. A lot of road trips. Yeah, a lot of road trips,

which I think we both just do a good job of road trips. We're good travelers in general. Both of those are expeditious travelers. No nonsense. No, I don't check bags. I've been flying like too much since I was four years old.

So I like to think that I'm a pretty accomplished traveler. I only ever check bags. If I do like if my girlfriend and I'll go to like Europe or something, we get one checked bag, but it's both of our stuff or I'll check a bag if it's golf clubs. Other than that. Yeah. No.

No. I have it down to a science now because I've traveled so much. But. Mm-hmm. Yeah. I don't know. I don't want to cover the show anymore. It makes me just sad.

It just makes me bummed out. I get done watching. I'm legitimately like in a bad mood. I feel just like blue. That's what I, I feel blue. Blue. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'm blue. But I don't know where this show goes. I don't know what next week is going to be. I don't know what topics we're going to talk about.

I don't know what topics I want them to talk about. Like, I don't care. I just don't want to see it. It makes me fucking sad. Yeah. Oh, but that's all I got.

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