Bros & Shows - Melissa Gorga: Housewife Swap Full Recap

Episode Date: November 6, 2025

What's up Bros? We watched another delightful installment of the Wife Swap. Melissa and Joyce trade places as Melissa attempts to be less type A and Joyce learns that keeping the house clean is about more than just cleaning up. Yet again, the swapped family is delightful. Melissa gets close to the kids in a hurry and much like Angie, she is ecstatic to be back with younger kids. Reminds her of the good ol days. On the flipside, Joyce walks into the Gorga's world and a spotless house. Joe even comes off good in this episode. We never expected to love the Wife Swap show so much, but here we are!!! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Hi Bald, it's me, Trixie Mattel, skinny legend, and board-certified HVAC Somali. And me, Katia Zamalachikova, the sweatiest creature in showbiz reminding you to subscribe to the Bald and the Beautiful podcast. Listen as we cover topics as varied as proper bidet usage, celebrity impression tutorials, and a television show I recently watched that I'll base my entire personality on for six weeks. As well as creative pest control, tasty lime aid recipes, and fun sex act trend. We also chat about boobs and movies and wigs and stuff, which is obviously the public service part of the podcast. So get ready for screaming, cackling, and some occasional educational moments as two massively unqualified queens talk about what it's like to be the epitome of fabulous. Go subscribe to The Bald and the Beautiful with Trixie Mattel and Katia Zamalachcova on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you're listening right now. So apparently, a housewife swap is just the best PR move you can possibly make as a housewife.

It really is. And honestly, with this Melissa episode, they should consider bringing back. And I know Jersey's just on pause. There's no confirmation if Melissa's coming back or not. But they should consider any of the other housewives that have been put on pause. Throw them into this. Maybe they'll get some good PR. I'm going to have me my bros and shows.

Bros and shows. Brose and shows. I got to have me my bros and shows. Good evening, everybody. Welcome back to another episode of Bros. and Shows. I'm your co-host, Steele Russell, joined as always by the one and only Magouter Shooter. What's up, dude?

Did you swap my first and last name? Hey, we're all about swaps over here. I don't like that. I didn't care for that either. I didn't care for that. So we're going to have to tread carefully, as all things Jersey are, very precarious positions. Volatile, yes. It was fucking hilarious because I honestly did think, and maybe Bravo can just use this as research data,

that it's been on pause for a little while. We haven't had a whole lot from Jersey. Obviously, people are just chomping at the bit to get any Jersey news that they can get. I really did think that people would either just not talk about this or they would say how lovely it was. Because from my perspective, this was just as nice as the Angie Kay episode. Obviously, I like Angie Kay a lot more than Melissa. But it was just as nice. It had all the feel good moments that we got in the first episode. Melissa gets painted in a completely different picture than what we've seen before. You would think maybe Twitter, people on Twitter would be, I guess, okay with this. No.

the Melissa side is all about how nice it was to see her because we haven't seen her in so long. And that's great. But the Teresa side, or rather the tree stumps side, we'll call it the tree stump side. It was unbelievable. I mean, they were pointing out so many things. They were calling her racist. Nothing has changed. Like, nothing has changed at all. And, you know, I'm sure those people probably didn't watch the episode. No, no way they watched it. In the middle, because, my takeaway really was and this is kind of funny and I hope this is a safe space for our listeners it made me kind of miss jersey in a weird way like I really did you say that now you're you're going through the highlight reel I'm not going through the highlight reel I just I don't know I think for the state of all the big franchises like a beverly hills and OC if they suck really fucking bad what's the point in leaving jersey on the side at this point like just give us some more content and at least gives us some more things to talk about and maybe something has changed maybe you can shake up the cast a little bit if you're going to keep peddling out beverly hills

which we'll talk to uh we'll talk to each other about the the trailer that dropped for beverly hills in our news episode which we're recording after this but if you're going to keep peddling the same shit out for these other franchises that have been around for a long time that are very notorious and they suck why not keep jersey on the air at this point i mean it's a valid valid point. It's not like we're getting much better content out of OC. I would argue that Jersey's last season was better than what we just watched with OC. I would agree too. Yeah. So we're not losing any sleep over it. You might as well throw it. You know you're going to get the numbers. Like Jersey didn't get paused because of a numbers problem. It got paused because of a

content problem. So there's no reason to keep holding off. And the only news we have is that the allegedly the test screenings or test filmings went so poorly that they're back to square one. So that's where we're at with Jersey. But I had to go on Twitter while you were doing that. I don't know if you noticed, but

for example, this is so dumb. Like who, what a loser. Get a life. It must really suck for Teresa's sister-in-law to always come in second. She was not even the first choice for wife swap. Who gives this shit, you nerd? Are you kidding? That also doesn't make any sense.

why because her episode drops second you don't know when they picked these people and who they picked first like that was the thing that i noticed the most is they don't use her name like she's fucking Voldemort or something they always say s iL or sister alone shut so embarrassing like could you imagine making that your personality is just hating a housewife imagine making that your personality and your personality is hating a housewife whose show is not currently on and hasn't been on in two years like you must be going through it right now i just i'm i need to put twitter down right now but i'm just fascinated that that people think that this would be a good thing to say i just i'm baffled absolutely baffled did you see the one where she's racist not yet they used

they used a picture of her with the family that she was staying with that looked very nice and obviously we watched the episode and it was very nice and heartwarming and yet they still used a picture of all of them smiling. And they're like, I can't believe they put Melissa here. You can tell the way that she walked into that house that she was feeling racist. What does that mean? What are we talking about? I don't know, bro. This is so dumb to me, but I'll get off of Twitter so that we can, uh, one more swipe and then I'll get off. Get off. This is the problem for you. You have a problem with Twitter. I don't go on Twitter because of this. I know, but then once you're on it, you get stuck. Jesus. There's so many. There's so many.

That's so stupid. Like, get a life. It's not even on TV anymore. Like, how are you still going to be that person? It's like, well, this just sucks. You suck. If you're still saying that shit, especially if you're posting it, you're a loser. Okay.

This was a feel good, happy episode. It's a standalone. There should be only happy thoughts. We should only be smiling through these or maybe shedding a tear because of the sweet moments that we got to witness once again. Did you shed a tear? No, but I did get emotional. It was just sweet. It's nice to see them connect.

And, like, the funny thing is watching this and then watching last, uh, last one with Angie Kay, I would imagine across the board. If you get most of the housewives, most, not all, most in this kind of scenario and you just get to see them like actually live their day to day life or interact with somebody else, they're probably all fairly nice people. Like, I think that's the funniest part. What this is showing all of those idiots that are like steadfast on hating somebody. you probably would like the person you hate or the housewife you hate if you just saw them in a different capacity. So maybe dial back the hatred ever so slightly. Don't go on Twitter for a day or two. That's a funny thing to say before we do Emily's episode next. Well, I was like interestingly enough going to say, bet me she's the only one that comes out

of this not looking great. That's what I was thinking because the trailer at the end of this episode is for Emily's episode and she swaps with somebody in the middle of New Jersey who lives on a farm and she has to shovel pig shit, and it looks like she's dealing with another husband who wishes he was just one of the kids. Now, that's just my takeaway. Obviously, we'll have more extensive takeaway. But just from the trailer,

it does look like we're actually going to get Emily, like, actually aggravated. Whereas Angie and Melissa, both of them, understandably so, had to, like, take their shots and kind of move on and like, all right, this is a way different type of situation that I'm used to, but I'm going to roll with it and I'm going to have my fun,

and I'm going to have my sweet and tender moments and I'm going to do my best even if like and I do think that there is obviously some sort of sit down beforehand where you're like yeah this is great PR for me I got to make sure that I do all this but that being said there's only so much PR that you can force like you can have a sit down and I know that there's going to be a lot of people online saying you know I imagine the Melissa and Joe sat down and said this is really good for us we got to make sure we come across as good people I fine I get that I understand that okay but you You know, day two, and you're still doing it, you still have to see everything through. And if you can be a good sport about this, which both Melissa and Angie were very good sports about all of this, what is there more to say? Like, yeah, maybe it started off as this is a great PR thing for me to do. It's going to make me look really good. But by the end of it, you are actually feeling what they're feeling. They do feel different.

They are happy that they did the experience. And they had important takeaways. So again, you know, there's only so much you can really fake. I just think it's fucking hilarious that we're sitting here and you can't be negative about this kind of stuff and then we're going to just do

Emily's airs tonight so by the time you guys are listening to this you probably already watched it or maybe you're doing what we do and you watch it later by the time that we sit down and actually watch Emmleys I think we're going to have a very different take

yeah I don't know and like that's the thing I'm not going to go into it with the predisposition of I'm going to shit on this later like I hope it's a nice episode I hope it's similar to these I'm going to do my best. I'm, it's just going to be nitpicky. And it's also recency bias. Like, we're coming off

of a terrible Emily season. We haven't seen Melissa in two years. And Angie Kay, we love. So what's Emily doing with other kids when she's got a kid at home that needs her? You know what I mean? We got so many comments on our, uh, recent episode of people like, yeah, she was so distraught about Luke that she had to leave right after they wrapped filming to go film this other show. Yeah. I, we're still really unclear on, uh, when this show was filmed. I still feel. I still think it was filmed before they filmed their I don't. I really think it's after. That's ridiculous.

For Emily's situation, for Angie, I don't really care. We were just trying to figure out when she got the idea to go camping with the girls. Maybe it came from this. That would be funny. With Emily's, there's a lot of things in question. Yeah, I know. Take a look at that one. Yep. But

let's dive into this one because we could probably sit here and speculate about Emily and her episode for another 30 minutes. But we get to meet everybody. so it's been a while since we've checked in with Melissa and the Gorgas so we get a little recap of them it was weirdly comforting to see them back on the screen yeah i think it's just a nostalgic kick probably but being in that monstrosity of the house it was yes that they had to redo because they got

so much shit online that's my favorite part but they're the same you know you get the the same jokes from Joe Melissa we get the rundown of her daily life you know the house is always spick and span And we work out in the morning. Joe goes to work 6.30 a.m. to 6.30 p.m. And her big thing is that she's always on. And Joe is like, you know, I just wanted to relax a little bit, be able to, you know, tone it down as far as like the cleaning and just always being on the go. So that's the goal for him from this experience.

It's a very similar situation to what Sean did last week with Angie. He just wanted her to kind of tone down, spend a little, although Joe did not say spend a little bit more time with the family. Although that is ultimately what happened. Sean was very much more like, we hang out, you know, me and a lecture, we're watching TV. We would love it if she just sat down and hung out with us. And maybe she did. Maybe she didn't. Who knows. But I am seeing a very general theme about these housewives. They spend a lot of their day just cleaning up shit and making sure that their house is very spotless. So that actually answers a lot of questions because their houses always do look spotless. And if they're doing it themselves, then kudos to them. Yeah. And it appears

that they are. So that's her big thing. And then on the flip side, her counterpart in Joyce, Joyce is from Georgia. Her family is more or less the exact opposite. They are always together. The house is an absolute mess because they prioritize joy and happiness and having fun over everything else, which is a very sweet sentiment. But it's literally like when I saw her house, it's like, it's phenomenal casting. Yeah, it's a well done job. But seeing like the bed being, you all the clothes on everything i'm like i don't think melissa's where i was drawing the line i yeah the dishes yeah i'm cool with like the the blender with the smoothie in it like uh yeah you know and i'm all for the the idea behind it is very sweet you know like we're gonna just we don't have time to do that

because we're having so much fun doing family time but there's you know it's old food i don't want to be mean but just like that's yeah i'm with you like draw the line at the kitchen well the veganism to you know we've well i couldn't talk about vegans for a little while i can't do that now yeah i couldn't be a vegan and i what i appreciated about them is it wasn't like shoving it down your throat like if you're not a vegan you're a piece of shit like she was a good sport she made uh was it meatballs or was it just sauce i got melissa or joyce joys she's using eggs i have no idea what oh she oh she so she made Melissa's dinner on the first night so yeah i'm believe that was meatballs and meatballs and sauce yeah or gravy i guess they call it um yeah so

she went all in on melissa's dinner which was meatballs but the next one i'm not exactly sure what she made something with kale uh it looked like a kale salad of some sort yeah i don't know i'm not really sure but yeah i'm glad that it wasn't like a vegan vegan vegan episode i have nothing against vegans do you i just don't need to hear about it all the time but or juicing for 10 days is crazy. That's a long time to just straight up juice. I am happy that they had a bit of a crossover for the last day. Like, all right, you're not going to eat anything. You're going to finish up Joyce's juice cleanse. I know, which I wonder if Joyce in turn also did a juice cleanse when she got up the jersey. I can't imagine like I've done a cleanse before. I can't imagine traveling

and flying without any food in my stomach. That sounds horrifying to. Oh, really? I have to. I can't eat when I travel. Oh, really? Yeah. I always eat before I go anywhere. It's a great time. No, I don't know why. Like, if I'm in the airport, I'm not eating.

Hit the chilies? Yeah, like, that's the thing. If I do a triple dipper pre-flight, I'm in bad shape. Oh, man. I am sleeping sounds like a baby. Really? I'm uncomfortable and probably going to have to hit up the bathroom. And we'll get right back to the rest of our episode.

But first, a few words from our new friends over at Uncommon Goods. Uncommon Goods is incredible. It's an enigma. It has everything that you could ever need for gift giving. The holidays are going to sneak up on you fast. And I feel like I'm the type of person. Those holidays start sneaking up. I panic.

I go into a straight up panic mode and I don't know what to do. All I have to do is go over to Uncommon Goods because they have everything that you could need. I'm actually going to give my family and some friends an Advent calendar because I loved ad band calendars growing up and they have so many different ad bank calendars to choose from and they're all incredible the quality is unmatched you're going to find something for every person in your life gift giving is difficult but it is very very easy with uncommon goods so shop early have fun and cross some names off your list today to get 15% off your next gift go to uncommon goods.com slash bros that's uncommon goods.com slash bros for 15% off

Don't miss out on this limited time offer, Uncoming Goods. We're all out of the ordinary. Do you guys hear that? Oh, that's our podcast, Ruin, brought to you by me, your host, Intrepid Horror Movie Freak, Hallie Keeper, and me, your resident Scarity Cat, Alison Libby. Join us each week as Hallie forces me to listen

to the twisted plot of yet another bone-chilling horror movie. From classics like The Exorcist and The Thing, the latest releases, to the most disgusting film, on streaming. We ruin them all every Tuesday, wherever you get your podcast. So come join us. And until then, we beg you. Please keep it spooky. Of the Regency era, you might know it as the time when Bridgeton takes place, or is the time when Jane Austen wrote her books. The Regency era was also an explosive time of social change, sex scandals, and maybe the worst king in British history. Fulker history's new season is all about

the Regency Era, the balls, the gowns, and all the scandal. Listen to Vulgar History, Regency Era, wherever you get podcasts. But we make the swap. Melissa's in Georgia, and we got Joyce up in Jersey, and they have to live like the other person for the day. So for Melissa, now she has to go and not clean anything. She has to spend the whole day with the family. And did she go to work? I don't think she went to work at the double dutch spot. They went to the park and did double dutch with one of the employees. Now, it looks like it could have been more people there.

So maybe they just had like a pop-up event or something. Okay. So, yeah, I would say so. And I think that that's where she really shined. You got her with the younger kids and she misses when her kids were that old. And as you saw earlier and from just watching Jersey as a whole, her kids are fairly independent. We don't really see them interact with the parents a whole lot, at least back in the

Jersey days. so she slides right back into that role and she loves it and you can tell and that's the big thing anyone trying to disparage this episode it's like you can tell that she's actually into this you can tell that she's enjoying time with the kids the kids are enjoying time with her she even figures out a way to work in sprinkle cookies which she had to find vegan sprinkles for yeah well that was very funny when she showed up and didn't realize that they were vegan she's like oh they're vegan I guess they can't have my sprinkles enough like you've said it three times so far don't do it again but it was weirdly nice like you said for the vegan sprinkle cookies that she had at the end that was a good nice little callback like all right yeah yeah fun yeah make yeah yeah the sprinkle cookies who could forget about the sprinkle cookies but joyce on the other hand she goes into melissa's world i would imagine it's kind of a shell shock to like go in and have to deal with joe gorga with not a lot of i'm not sure she did some research i'm not sure if she was like a jersey fan that has to be a lot to go in and deal with Joe yeah i can't imagine doing that joe was

surprisingly a pretty good uh yeah you he actually came off pretty good i really thought that it was going to be quite the opposite based on the trailer when he's telling her that she's a bit needy but in the context that we saw later it was fine honestly because they built enough of a rapport he was very welcoming i like and i don't know how you can't be very welcoming in a situation like this but he was very welcoming and it was nice to see the kids all there and obviously jersey hasn't for a while, so seeing the boys a little bit more grown up, Antonia came home from college for this. They all seemed like they bought in, so I was good with it.

Yeah, and Antonia is her mother, like, to the tea, which is really funny to watch everything that they, uh, that they're doing together. But with Joyce in their house and we're doing Melissa's rule, so she has to clean up dinner, she has to clean up the house, she has to do all these things that she doesn't really do, but in doing it, because her takeaway, as we've, find out later is that she wants to be more on top of the household stuff because it makes her feel good. And it sets a good example for the kids. I think this was more important for Joyce that it was Melissa. This felt more like Joyce got more than Melissa. Whereas last thing it felt like Angie Kay got

more than it's not a knock on Melissa. Oh, I don't remember her name already. Yeah. That's how my brain works. I just dropped that right away. But yeah, it is one of those situations where yeah, it just seems like Joyce had more of a takeaway, but Melissa still had a pretty good takeaway because she was around the family a little bit more, and she got to spend some more family time doing fun things. And obviously, that's a lot easier when your kids are a lot younger. But I think it's nice. And we saw that same thing with Angie last week. Like, I miss when my kids were this young. Same with Melissa. You get to have a little family time. So that's nice takeaway. It is. And it's just the only downside to it in moving forward from this whole thing.

And not to jump the gun too much, but it's going to be a lot harder to rewire teenagers to be like, hey, we're spending more time together because I'm like, right, fuck that. And Antonio's going back to school. I think it's just a good reminder in these moments for Melissa that like when you can, let's optimize the family time. Like, let's make more of an effort. And when you are together, you know, chat about their day. Check in. How you guys do? What's going on?

And then we get to the new rules. Now we get to implement the rules from their own households. Melissa, obviously, first thing, we're getting this house in order. We're making this place spick and span. Where does this go? Where does that go? And she buys a table. She bought a lot of shit.

She got like a whole shoe organizer for the back of the kid's door. She goes against a table, which we'll talk about in just a second because we get a little pop in. Love a cameo. If they're going to do a cameo every episode, I wanted a better cameo in the Jersey side, but I didn't get it. So I'll just live with what that is. But for Melissa, yes, immediately. We're cleaning up the kitchen. We're going to clean up the house.

This is all over the place. I'm going to go ahead and get you a shoe organizer. We're going to go get a table so we can sit down as a family and eat and just talk about our day. And I'm cooking you guys pasta. I got scared. I thought she was going to feed the kids non-glutin for vegan-free pasta. Yeah, non-vegan. I don't.

Vegan free pasta would be regular pasta. Which is pasta. Yeah. This is the question that I have, though. How is pasta not vegan? If you use an egg. in the pasta okay all right you use egg yolk to make pasta

so instead you have to use some other fat I don't know I've never actually made vegan pasta before so come from something but yeah I think all of these things are important to Melissa

just try to get the house in order try to get things set up the way that you want this was a little different than what we saw last week this was more in tune with kind of doing it was almost like opposite day opposite day and then opposite a day once again and we just got kind of two perspectives on it. So it was less like

Angie's where she wanted what the hell was that guy's name? I can't remember any of their names. Uh, uh, take her out. What was his name? I can't remember. I don't know for these people. I don't know. Lovely family though. I'll remember Sean. I'll remember Sean. But Sean was a lovely man. But anyway, yes. So we do get the

cameo and what a lovely cameo it was. It sure was. It was nice to see Phaedra. and she helps them shop for all their stuff. I thought it was really funny when she's like, they're vegan and she's like, Jesus in front of the kids. I was like, okay.

They don't strike as a family that cusses in front of people. Yeah, and then I'm pretty sure that was a dick joke because she looked at the camera. Yeah. Yeah, it's a fager. It's definitely a big joke. Yeah, I was like,

all right. I mean, funny, sure, but there's children present. But Melissa, she gets a table. Like we said,

the shoe organizer, and she makes, gravy for the kids and you get a nice little moment from Sean's the dad and dad is sitting at the table and he's like, you know what? Because I get it. He was before we were doing our own thing, they would eat wherever, you know, it was just kind of a here's your food and then they go sit on the couch, this, that. But actually having a nice family dinner, checking in with everyone after the day, he's like, I'm going to take this one. And it's, it's fun to watch, at least for me, like where you see they're going to pick and choose some things. Like, oh, I want to put that one

in my pocket. I want to use that one. Yeah. Like the, dinner table. It's just nice to see people actually getting something out of this experience. Because when we were going into this whole thing before we watched Angie Kay's, this is not what I had in mind at all. No, I don't think I could even tell you what I was thinking before we watched the first episode. Because I was still unsure as to what was even going on. I thought the housewives were swapping families, which still kind of makes some sense to me. But this is a much nicer show and it's a much more heartwarming show. But Sean got to take a nap while the kids were all out

shopping with Melissa so that was really nice too and I love that they pan the camera back to him and he's just like hanging off of the couch with his head like cocked over just fucking out he's been waiting for that map he's been waiting for it but I think it's been years since he's ever actually thought about it

if that makes any sense yeah this is a subconscious ability for me wasn't even on the radar now he's like mouth a gape just on the couch zonked out Joyce comes home and he's like uh yeah you take the kids I got I got something to do back here I got to tie the double dutch rope for later, so can't make it.

You're going to find that man napping everywhere. I really liked Joyce was very forthcoming with how she was in the moments of like being Melissa, quote, unquote. Yeah. And I actually appreciated that because I thought we might get some people that a little timid. They don't want to overstep or say too much or be rude or anything. I don't think it was rude, but, you know, she's getting glam. And then she goes to Melissa's store and she's taking a picture. She's doing all Melissa's shit.

And she's like, God, this is a lot. And her assistant's like, yeah, it's pretty, pretty hectic. And she goes to her confessional and she's like, you know, doing this every day. It's like so much time by myself. And the people around me, like, they're nice, but they're on Melissa's payroll. I'm like, damn, you just said that Melissa's friends are on the payroll. Yeah. You're right.

Yeah. But, like, it wasn't the best pub for Melissa with working, that's for sure. No. Because going over there and it sounds like they kind of doubled down on it. Her day to day is getting glam going over, putting on outfits that they got at the store and taking pictures to put on social media, and then she leaves. It's like, okay, who comes in? Well, you know, it's us.

It's really just us here. And then, you know, a couple other people will come in. So it made it seem like they don't even get customers. So I'm really confused about that part, too. and yeah Joyce's takeaway being like I'm so fucking lonely all the kids are gone my husband's gone for 12 hours a day I'm in this huge house by myself working out it's very quiet and now I have to do all of these things and these aren't even really my friends what am I doing here it's like oh it's kind of sad yeah it's super sad and especially for somebody that's so used to always being

around your people like all day every day I got my kids with me I got my husband with me yeah I don't want to be away from them and now she's thrown into this life of solitude more or less where she gets to see joe at 630 p.m. every night the kids come in and go to their rooms probably so that even more emphasizes why dinner time is so important for melissa it's like it's the only time you get everyone to sit down and actually be part of the family but because of joyce's rules now that gorgas have to spend the whole day together which was really funny because i know joe was not into it initially like when he gets up to go to work she's like all we're all going let's go andtonia goes along with which i thought was sweet didn't love the experience

no has she ever been on his construction site before she has but like as a child they got a little kid like very little yeah because they did a flashback where i think it was geo was there and even he was like four and so like maybe she was like six or seven there was i i do vividly remember her being there i think she was with melissa melissa was not having it at all so what are those situations Well, Joyce is a good sport. They get there, and I'm pretty sure Joe parked in a puddle intentionally. And be like, this is work. Come on.

Get out and get dirty. You probably could have parked anywhere else, but you're trying to prove a point, whatever. They get out of the car, and he goes into dig a hole. And she's like, wait a minute, I want to dig a hole. So she gets in the hole. She was a great sport. She leaned into everything. I think she actually enjoyed herself on the job site, which was nice to see.

You know, and I think the bigger thing. And this is where I thought that Joe was being a really good sport. Because even though he's complaining like, it's a work site, of course it's going to be dirty. He still got out and grabbed the trash bags and tied them up, put them on Antonia, put them on Joyce. Joyce walks away. She's like, if you had some colored tape, these would actually be pretty cool. They're trash bags. But yeah, all right, cool.

I like that feeling. I like that vibe. So get involved. Why not? This is your one chance to do it. But all in all, it was just a nice scene. It was nice to see Joe lean into it. It was nice to see Joyce lean into it, Antonia did her best.

You know, she was looking cute, as she said, on the, on the tractor, whatever the fuck that was, bulldozer maybe. But yeah, it was, it was just nice. I feel like you get more of, like, the genuine side of the Bravo Lebs watching these kinds of shows than we do when we watch the actual shows. Because even in, like, the family scenes that we see with the housewives on Bravo, it seems much more. Not scripted, but you know that they know they're filming. You know that they want to get some good PR out there and they want to make it look like their home life is really nice. It's forced.

Like, you don't have to force it in a show like this because it's already doing the work for you that you want to do in those family scenes and housewife shows. But also, obviously, the easy takeaway here is during a housewife show, they're always trying to be on for the camera. They're always trying to drum up some sort of drama and try to get some storyline going. You don't have to do any of those things here.

So it's almost like you get a housewife in this environment, whether they're active or not. They actually have a moment to just kind of relax and be themselves instead of worrying about what Marge is saying or what Teresa is doing, what Louie's doing. Like, you don't have to worry about any of those things because these people aren't on camera. All you have to worry about is what's in front of you. And this is the task at hand that it's a pretty simple task. Just follow it. And I feel like that's kind of why we're seeing them fall into this mold where it's like, oh, I'm actually a really nice person. And I come across really well.

Boarding for Flight 246 to Toronto is delayed 50 minutes. Ugh, what? Sounds like Ojo time. Play Ojo? Great idea. Feel the fun with all the latest slots in live casino games and with no wagering requirements. What you win is yours to keep groovy. Hey, I won! Boarding will begin when passenger fisher is done celebrating.

19 plus Ontario only. Please play responsibly. Concerned by your gambling or that if someone close to you, call 1866-3-3-1-2-60 or visit comex-onterio.com. Hey, Michael. Hey, Tom. Big news to share it, right? Yes, huge, monumental, earth shaking. Heartbeat, sound effect, big. Mait is back.

That's right. After a brief snack nap. We're coming back. We're picking snacks. We're eating snacks. We're raiding snacks. Like the snackologist we were born to be. Mates is back.

Mike and Tom, eat snacks. Wherever you get your podcast. Unless you get them from a snack machine, in which case, call us. This podcast is dedicated to my younger self because she really needed it. She couldn't keep a man or a job. Welcome to Brokow Therapy. I'm your host, Stephanie Megan. I'm your co-host, Rose McAlees.

Every week we dive into dating, sex, and relationships. We are not professionals, but we bring professionals on the pod to give us some advice. Listen to Brokow Therapy wherever you love to listen to podcasts. Therapy is too expensive. but this podcast isn't. Now, this was a bit of a disappointment for me because we obviously already got the Thadra cameo, which was lovely.

I thought we were going to get a cameo of the Jersey variety over here, and it wasn't going to be Melissa's sisters, which it was. The whole family decides we're going to do a little bit of what Joyce wants to do, which is the double touch, which was very funny. And it is very fun. I haven't done double Dutch since like grade school. I think I was saying I could easily say right now, like, yeah, I was great at it because you can't prove it.

Yeah, see, can't prove it. Try to prove us wrong. I can prove it. Give me a double dutch rope. Oh, you're still going to be good at it. I don't know if I would still be good at it. I was a professional athlete. Okay.

Case you didn't know. Yeah, anyway. So my disappointment comes, I thought we were going to get Marge Jr. We didn't get Marge. Much like we got Mary Cosby last week showing up right in the middle of what's her face. I still can't remember their name. gutting the fish you're really trying to think about it too i can't i'll name her name was an l i want to say lauren maybe i was gonna say it was like kela or something but maybe it wasn't

anyway no marge junior we get melissa's sisters which had zero impact just no impact on the scene at all but it was fun to watch them all just kind of buy into doing the double dutch for the one last final hurrah before the swap commences or finishes commends, it already commenced. Concludes. There we go. Thanks, buddy. Before it concludes, here we go. We have to have the sit down, which I've now find this to be a very funny staple of the show that the one wife has to stay in Melissa's house until Melissa gets home. And then her family is just by themselves, like waiting for her to return back home. But the sit down, I thought was really nice. And this is where we kind of figure out this was a much better learning experience for Joyce than it was for Melissa.

because Melissa had fun. She enjoyed Joyce's family. That's really all we got out of Melissa. Yeah, you know, it's a little different, but I did a couple of things. I want you guys to eat together as a family. Joyce broke down. Joyce was really going through it in this scene.

And it was nice. I mean, look, it's a good takeaway to watch her do that. Yeah, and it was sweet to watch her break down in, in sort of a way because she made it clear in the beginning why the house is the way it is. And she has mentioned quicksand a couple of times. It's like, I feel like I'm in quicksand. It's just I can't get a handle on anything.

And that's when Melissa's like, look, that's why it becomes like part of the routine, this, that, the other. Because Melissa's takeaway, as we said, is more time with the kids, more time with Joe. Okay, great. Joyce, it pretty much all became about, Joyce, you need to keep your house clean. Yeah, it earned fast. It was one of those situations where she started the episode saying, I don't care if there's dishes in the sink, I get to hang out with my family. And by the end of it, she's actually very truthful and realizes, yeah, it just kind of became one of those slippery slopes where we

weren't doing the dishes afterwards. And then we were just playing with the kids. And it's almost like she created this whole, I don't clean the dishes because I want to spend time with my family. But in reality, it's, yeah, it feels like I'm in quicksands because I've got three kids at home that are running a muck and they've got shit all over the place. And we run a double Dutch company. So we've got, I assume, jump ropes everywhere. And it just gets crazy, very fast, which of course it does when you have three young kids. So for her to open up at the end of this and realize, yeah, you know what, maybe I do need to start doing those things. And I think they kind of clicked at one point, too, during this episode. After the Gorgas had dinner, Joyce was still

cleaning and Antonio walked in. She's like, yeah, my mom usually gets this dumb a lot quicker, like a lot quicker. She's already done. We're already good and we're already out the door. We're going somewhere. So instead, what Joyce takes away is maybe it doesn't take that long to clean up and I can still do that. And that was nice. Yeah. And I think that she is going to try to implement it moving forward. Again, there's only so much that Melissa can do. Antoni's at school. The boys, I imagine, are about to be in school. So, you know, just make the most of the time that you have left. But all in all, it was just really sweet. Once again, it's a very sweet episode. It's easy TV. It's enjoyable to see this other side of housewives that we really haven't seen because

again, the family scenes that we've seen with them are somewhat forced just because of the context in which we're seeing them. So this is a chance to see the real version. I feel like this is the realist I've seen Melissa Gorga. How about that? I would say the same, yeah. And guess what? Fans feel the same way. I'm a little scared to look at these questions. Oh boy. I don't think we have a whole lot of like diehard tree stumps so yeah that's fair oh look we got another shooter mougar name you ready for that hell yeah not for this but potomac st shooter maguder and davis okay that kind of works the one from yesterday was great though it's better than many of the ones that i've come up with so that's a really good point all right so first up here from

rachel valentine morgan would you rather swap with the flakes or the clarks the flakes were the ones who were living in a homestead the flakes uh you know i would want to swap with the flakes only because they live off grid and that's like a dream of mine uh but either like i i really just simply like as far as the family goes i don't know like they're either one they seem like really lovely people on both sides the experience though if i can go live off grid for a In Idaho? Fuck, yeah. I mean, I agree with that.

Just for the scenery alone, and it's only a couple of days, I would definitely swap with the flakes, but neither is really the wrong answer here. No. This question statement from Ted Curry just bothered me. Sorry, this is late. Stop watching OC and replace it with below deck. Ted. Ted, buddy.

It's over. It's fucking over. What do you mean? You couldn't say that 10 weeks ago? we just lost like half of our lives like i'm going to be on my deathbed and i'm going to be muttering something and it's going to be something about OC like a camera quote you yeah all because you told us to stop watching OC right before the reunion come on ted thanks ted god what a nightmare uh from rachel ray does or did this kind of make you miss melissa and joe

on our screens i say not not specifically joe and melissa but it did make me feel like why not have jersey in the fold i do kind of miss it i think just because it comes back and you're like wow until it goes back and then i'm pissed off by week six right they you have to completely change what that show was for it to be enjoyable again in any capacity we've said it multiple times and this isn't even because i don't like teresa move her to her own show yeah run it back with a lot of the the ogs that we know and add some newcomers and see what she got it's not going to be worse than orange county it's not going to be worse than beverly hills and i do have an issue with bravo as a whole your three flagships are burning to the ground and you guys

don't seem to have an answer for it beverly hills brutal jersey paused oc disaster so you new york four of them new york is not existent right now so like i don't understand I don't understand, and I love how this is what this turned into, I mean, it was probably inevitable, but I don't understand how you can write the ship with a Potomac, a Miami. You hit a fucking jackpot with Salt Lake, which is, that's lightning in a bottle. I'm not going to say you can replicate that, but you clearly found some methods that repair these shows. So what the fuck? Like, how are you that bad at repairing four of your biggest franchises? It makes no sense to me.

It's a good question. From Jennifer M2M, was this show designed to make us fall in like instead of in love with these housewives? Inately, yes. I mean, there's no way. Actually, you know what? I'm going to reserve judgment until Emily's episode because if my take away from Emily's episode is maybe I was a little harsh under this season, which by the way, it's

not going to be, then yes, it is designed to do exactly that. to try to throw these housewives that people don't really like that much, even though Angie Kay is a fan favorite. It's a good setup for them to get good to know. Yeah. So I don't know. If they had four housewives that nobody liked or four housewives that were controversial, okay, yes, the writings on the wall, we already know what that is.

But the way they're doing it, I just don't see how you can't come away from an episode so far and not be somewhat impressed of the way they handle it. I think that the PR positivity is more of a byproduct of it. To me, they're trying to throw things against the wall to figure out what shows they can run in between their franchises. And this one makes a lot of sense. And I would imagine after, like, I'm sure that was part of the conversation. This is going to look good. We get to get them out in the real world, whatever.

But I highly doubt that they thought it would go as well as Angie Kay's premiere. the feedback they got from that. Most of these shows that we watch, because we watch most of the random spinoffs, most of them don't get a lot of chatter. Like they're not that big of a deal. Like the first episode, sometimes people are talking about it.

After that, they kind of fall through the cracks. This response, this reception has been a lot different than what we're used to when it comes to these kinds of shows. I don't think that Bravo could have predicted that. Yeah.

No, that's a really good point. And last question here from Jay Bay, the Hut, Which vegan dishes can steal make? I make a really good vegan roasted cauliflower, like red-tied chili tacos that are phenomenal. I do a vegan chickpea buffalo chicken dip, which is shockingly good. It shouldn't be as good as it is. And then the good old bootable, which is just a bunch of healthy grains,

vegetables and a really good sauce. Tahini is usually in there in some capacity. Okay. Yeah. There you go. Plenty more. I'll make one. Many more.

Plenty more where that came from. But yeah, that's it for questions. Well, next time we do this, it's going to be about Emily Simpson. Sure is. And who knows? I don't. Hopefully, I don't even know how to speculate on it. I don't think it's going to go well, but these two have gone great.

and I didn't expect them to be as good as they were. So maybe. Maybe. You know, she has to come out of it neutral. If she can make it out of it neutral, that's a big win for her. I mean, that's her climbing out of a very big hole. Yeah, it's an incredibly deep hole that she has dug from this season. And the funny part is she dug that hole almost twice as deep in this finale that we just watched.

But we don't have to go back down there. I just imagine the sit down at the end And she's talking to whichever wife she swaps with Talking about how hard it was to be away from her son Oh my God, I will lose my mind You know it's going to happen when she's at the other house You just keep thinking about Luke Not enough to go home

But just enough to like get sad Just enough to talk about Emily stop Just do this If she says the words in any, any variation. Should I go home? I should go home. I feel bad for not being at home.

I'm going to turn it off. Yeah. That'll be a fun recap too. It's going to be interesting. I might watch it live. Tonight. Yeah, I know. I might just wrap the day off and see what we got.

Because it also does look like she got a very interesting family. The pig was in the house at one point. Which is awesome, by the way. I would definitely swap with a pig in the house. That sounds great. And it's like, you know, the dad thinks he's one of the kids, like you said. And there's a scene of him sprinting in a pasture and gets taken out. That takes himself out and his kid. And there's a shovel involved. So she might have

a very interesting swap. Yeah, we'll have to see how that goes. But, uh, yeah, until next time. Yeah, that's all I got. You got anything else? I'm shooter. Oh, okay. Oh, you're going to do your own side.

Oh, do it again, do it again, do it again. No, it's fine. Oh, it's good. Until next time. I thought you were teeing me up. I did it again. I'm just going to shut up. Brod bros are out here.

You just, oh, hey, wait a minute. Whoa. I like that. That sounded good. Goodbye, Kyle. Did the sound of those words call to you like Pavlov's dog? Then you might enjoy our podcast, Turtle Time. Every week you can join me, Riley Hamilton, and my co-host, Amy Scarlotta, as we cover

the most pressing Bravo News and dig into the new episodes to answer important questions like, who the hell is Adrian Maloof in this world? Listen to Turtle Time on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts, new episodes every Wednesday and Friday. There are vampires out there. They walk among you, shoulder to shoulder in the dark. Heading to work, heading home, going to the bar. It's a life. just like anyone else's, and I have grown used to it, to the darkness, to the moon, to the taste of blood on my tongue. But vampires are dying out. We are a fading kind, and I am the first one created in so long, and that is a dangerous thing to be. Those who came before me, elders of all

stripes, they do not want to see our kind gone, and they will do anything to keep their power. And for myself, and for grace who created me, that is a sword that hangs above our heads. and the worst person of all carries our secret, and he will use it however he sees fit. Who do you look to when things are at their darkest? From the creators of Parkdale Haunt comes Woodbine, a podcast about monsters, dreams, and changes, those you want and those you never saw coming.

Season 2 arrives September 24th, distributed by Realm.