Bros & Shows - Merce is in The Purse (RHOBH Full Recap)

Episode Date: February 2, 2024

Whats up Bros?! We are back in Barthelona with the RHOBH crew. First and foremost we discuss Annemarie and her recent outpouring of social media posts, interviews and her overall reaction to the CRNA debate... Then were on to the episode. Sutton is preparing to spread Merce's ashes and we finally see her and Kyle come together and begin to work past their issues this season. We get to meet a bunch of Sutton's friends from her time as a studio manager in New York. Crystal has a health scare and to Annemarie's credit, she steps up to help out and keep Crystal calm. Erika is in rare form as she still holds some resentment towards the group for not apologizing to her in regards to her earrings. The episode ends with another Sutton Kyle moment and these two seem to really be back on a good path. Will Crystal and Annemarie be able to maintain some sort of peace? Time Stamps: Intro (0-4:26) Rose and Thorn (4:26-12:34) Annemarie (12:34-17:51) RHOBH (17:51) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Hi, I'm Karma. And yes, I am a bitch. Brov Bros. Good evening, everybody, and welcome back to another episode of Brav Bros. Your favorite podcast from The Bros. For everybody, for whoever wants to listen. I am your co-host, Steele Russell, joined us. always by the one and only, Mr. Goetz. What's up, Mr. Goots?

Ah, so formal. I love it. Yeah. Just sitting back, relaxing. Feels good. This has been a good week. We're kind of getting back into our groove. I know that we've been blasting the airwaves with our content. Yeah. I think people are happy about that. Or tired of us.

Or tired of us. Somewhere in between, maybe. Yeah. And actually probably imagine that. Yeah, that makes a lot of sense. But, yeah, I mean, we owed it to the listeners to make sure that we got enough content out this week. Because last week, well, we were, We were busy.

We were very busy, and I think that most people understand. It was funny. There's a few, like, Twitter or X comments where people were like, where are they? Like, where are you guys? And they were, like, a little strong. They weren't like, oh, you guys have a lot going on this. We can't wait to hear about it. And the funniest was, I recognize the one name because this man has given us a lot of

shit in the past. Ryan Stoneman. Yep. And Stoneman's like, I'm having withdrawal. I'm like, you're two-timey guy. You want to talk a little smack, but you. I appreciate it. Yeah.

Look, whether you listen to us because you like to hate listen or you love listening to us because you love us, as long as you're listening, you're fine in my book. Yeah, there's one guy in mind, and I'm not going to say his name, but there's one guy who he's just talking to himself in our DMs at this point, talking about all these different sports and stuff. And I'm just like, dude, like he's talking shit. Like, it's one thing if he was making some funny jokes like this and that, whatever.

He's just talking shit. I'm like, dude, we're never going to respond to you. Why do you keep going? Because we used to respond. And then he hit us with. it was an untimely shit talk because we were actually pissed and we're both like, well, fuck this. Like, this isn't fun anymore.

We're driving back from the Phillies game when they lost and we're like, yeah, it was something like that. I was like, well, I'm done with this conversation. But, you know, maybe we'll tap in at some point someday, like in two years when we win the Super Bowl or something. Like, ha, fuck you. Finally. Finally, we can give you like the middle finger emoji.

But yeah, it has been nice to get our bearings back. I think that I have subconscious. turn this room and doing this into like almost therapy like when we don't do this I feel like out of whack so it's nice to kind of get back in the groove get back in our our happy place the studio it's like a little timeless zone here you know it is actually really matters back here nothing matters there's no rules there's no rules yeah that always reminds me that commercial remember the i think it was like papa johns or no it was um little caesars Little Caesars, yeah.

The dude's like, there's no rules. He takes a shirt off. He's like, put your shirt on. He's like, there's one rule. Yeah. Yeah, that's where my head goes. Yeah, we have to keep our shirts on back here. Well, I mean, not a few of you.

You know. Only bros? Only. That's our new app that we're launching. Let's take this opportunity. No, no. But I will take this opportunity to plug our live show in March, March 6th at the city winery in Philadelphia.

If you haven't gotten your tickets yet, they are selling super fast, which is awesome to see. But I want to make sure that all. that all of our peeps are able to get them before they sell out. So make sure that you go, get those tickets ASAP, come to the show, hang out with your bros. It's where it all started. It was our very first live show that we ever did was there with Zach Peter. Now we're going to headline.

So we're going to go try to fill that room again. So come support your bros. Yeah, we're talking to all the bravo Gs there. Yeah, bravojee's. Oh, yeah, see, I didn't remember what it was because I've never heard it before. I'm going to. I'm going to. You're not going to, but yeah.

I will. And like, that's why I'm not getting here. about this one is because I'm so confident with it. You're not as spiteful as I am. Like, I would do that in heartbeat. You just don't, I feel like you don't care. You're not going to go back. Here's the thing.

Like, when I know, when I know for a fact that I'm right, I don't need the validation of like, no, look, like this one I'm so certain. I'll make it's okay. Like, if you don't believe me, it's fine. So I'm cool with it. But it is our end of the week episode, and we haven't done this in like two weeks. So we got some roses and thorns to go through. Yeah, they've been piling up.

Yeah, they sure have on both sides of the street. You want to start off, or you want me to get into it? Let's go you first. Let's get back to the groove, you know? Actually, kind of on the heels, and this is going to be my rose for the week, on the heels of us talking about live shows, and we got the itch again. And it's funny because Steele always talks about the it. We do a live show, and he goes right back into it.

I kind of decompressed for a little bit. And I'm like, yeah, you know, when it happens, it happens. When we were driving back from New York last week, I'm like, I want to do this again immediately. So there were comments, and obviously we put some feelers out there. So if you're listening right now, we did put an Instagram out. there. We're just trying to get an idea of who wants us to go where. We narrowed it down to four cities. We might open it up to a couple more just to see what's going on out there, but make sure you go on Instagram and vote for that. Get your voice heard. That's what we want.

Yeah, that's what we're all about here. But somebody did comment, and I thought it was interesting. Have a show at the shore this summer. Ah, yes. This is from Susie B. 0302. I commented back just the eye emoji. I love this idea. I know. So do I. A little beat show? Of Wildwood. show that would be incredible dude i'd fucking even if it's like a bar down there with like 50 people like i would love a wildwood show yeah we'd probably have to do it during the week but you know what we'll just take the week off just go to the beach the rest of the time why not i'm so down i

that was one of the best that i can't believe we haven't thought of that yeah i know so i it's because it's like we're doing a show in philadelphia in a month but it's that's a little too close to home for me where i'm like i yeah there's a lot of people that i know that are going to be around like they walk in they just see me up on stage like that's i didn't think about it because it's of that that's at least how i'm rationalizing it. I don't fucking know. That makes no sense. It doesn't. Do I make sense, though? That's a good point. Yeah. It's a valid point. But that's a great rose. And

don't worry, that idea is firmly planted in our head. So we're going to try to make that that. Something tells me we can make it happen. Don't, I'm not promising. It might be impromptu. It might just be a random, you know, we'll mix it up. What do you mean impromptor? It's going to show up to a bar with microphones. Like, hey, can we do a show real quick? I know enough people that own bars down there. Oh, sick. Dude, I've been going there my whole life.

Nice, bro. Whole life. Wallwood. Wowwood, dude. Yeah, dude. Yeah, dude, you're so sick. Yeah, just because you just now got back into Wildwood. Back in.

Don't think that I forgot about the way you used to talk shit on Wildwood in high school. I didn't talk shit on Wildwood. I talked shit on the Northeast. Yeah. I'll own that. And you said, where you go on a vacation? That's all I was saying. Well, Wildwood's basically just like, go to the Skookle, dude.

Going down Wildwood. I never said Wildwood. You want to bring this one back out? You want to bring this? Let me get into my thorn, all right? Enough preamble here. My thorn doesn't make any fucking sense. Okay, cool.

We got two stars. And this one is titled Pro Rachel, not popular. This is my phone. Fast forward through the Rachel talk. What the fuck are you talking about? No idea. I have no... Did you not watch VPR last year?

You just don't know what we're talking about? So this one, it's so funny. This is my thorn. I have another one saves. I don't worry. But this one pissed me off, too. Because to me, it's almost like propaganda. Like, somebody wanted to get this review on our page just so people see that.

and go, oh, they're pro-racial. I don't know when we were pro-racial because we gave her a little bit of, like, empathy last episode and just saying she's been through a lot of shit. We didn't say she's, like, free and clear. I said she's been through a lot of shit, and it sucks because she's still burying herself with this stupid podcast and Schmetheney Schmankle. We were just talking about Lala having empathy for her. That's all we were talking about.

We didn't say that. Which is content for the episode that we just watched. So, like, do you not want us to talk about the episode? What do you want us to do? Not if it's pro-racial. We'll just go on every week. not going to watch the episode, and we're just going to talk about what we think happened. I like that idea.

I'm sure that'll go really. I'm sure that'll go really well. Yeah, everybody's going to love that. So why don't you sit your ass down, Lolo? And listen to the podcast. Listen to the podcast. And watch the fucking TV show, maybe. I was so confused.

Yeah, very confused. That's literally what I was like, oh, this is just propaganda. They want people to think we're pro-racial. People are out to get us. That's where I'm at now. There you go. All right. Here's mine.

That was actually my thorn. So I have a backup thorn, and I'll read it. And it didn't upset me. It didn't get under my skin. It's just more so I want to highlight this because of what it stands for. And this is just, nope, one-star review from Fifi 9-8-765. I'll even read your name. Your watch what happens live stint was awful.

Cringy. One star. So I want to break this down a couple ways. All right, first and foremost, we watched it back multiple times. It was not awful. It was not cringy. I've already said in our episode, I wish I had a question ready to go for Heather, but he put us on the spot. We did the best we could.

You challenged Andy to a fight. It was very fluid. That moment was great. All in all, we held our own. No one talks shit about us on, like, the Reddit boards and all that stuff. So I think it was a successful night. Andy loved us. It was great.

Now, the other way I want to break this down, because this is where internet commenters and trolls, like, makes me laugh. This is, like, the pinnacle of being a Bravo podcast, right? You cannot get any higher than being featured on Bravo, let alone in the clubhouse with Andy Cohen. Yeah. It is the highlight. It is Everest. And in our highest moment, somebody wants to tear you down and go, that was horrible. Like, imagine I came to your house and you just, whatever your biggest goal or dream was, and you achieve it, and you're so happy.

And you don't know me. And I come to your door and say, hey, last night when you won the best pot roast at the potluck in the neighborhood, your pot roast is. ass and so are you. Too dry. Yeah, way too dry. And the breadcrumbs, fucking brutal. Tuh, too. I didn't go that far on it, but I didn't really get it. Because, like, there's no way that there's other bartenders that have been on Watchravens Live that get comments that say, cringy.

No. Do you even know that we're there? Like, people knew we were there. That's a thing. That's pretty great. I didn't have, like, I guess that's what I was trying to find, like, all right, what was a cringy moment? And there wasn't one. It wasn't like we got stuck or, like, said something awkward or like there was i don't know but i just i think more of it was i think it was funny that like in such a peak highlight moment somebody would want to fuck you up yeah well got to love the internet right i'll love the internet well let's go on to my rose and i to all of our listeners abroad i want you to take note of this i'm going to try to highlight some of our foreign reviews

because i have to go to a different site to see them but your voice should be heard too and i've already read one from Western Australia, but this one just comes from Australia. And it's from J.J. Furman. And it says, greetings from Australia. I stumbled across you guys during Scandival, and now I can't wait to listen when a new episode has dropped. Best Housewives Bravo-related pod

on the market. Two T's Shmooties, I say. Keep up the great work and go birds from Australia. So thank you, JJ. Eagles don't have us at a game next year. I'm still pissed about the Phillies thing. I think that we'll be in with the Phillies next year. We got

be fucking diplomats at this point maybe not maybe we just never will maybe we'll just see under the radar always the Phillies are playing in London and June maybe we just go over there just pop around stop teasing live shows everywhere not a live show I'm just say we go to the Phillies Mets game I would go over there yeah I would do that Riley's in school there still perfect so we can go watch her where they're aligning yeah hey look at that she have a theater nearby that we can stop bring some mics to stop because you get people excited then we're not going to show up then they're going to hate this is at least I think it's on par with you for weeks on end saying

And we got a lot coming on. Just keep an eye on our social. This is... That's how heads up. You're giving them false hope. Mine comes with an ending. International tour. Stop.

Look out, Australia. We're coming to you, Sydney. No, we're not. Don't get excited. Top 30 podcast in Australia, so, you know? We are 29 on the Spotify charts. Look, is it out of the question, like, five years down the road? No.

Like, I will happily go on an international tour if we are able to do so financially. But... Let's stay within ourselves here, huh? All right? Why don't you just stay within yourself? That's my coach used to tell me all the time. Can't do it. Control what you can control.

Stay within yourself. Eyes on the prize. That's good baseball advice. It's good for life. It's good life advice. All right. But enough rambling. We got some Robha to talk about, so let's jump right in.

But before we do start with this episode, I do want to talk about because we've seen it a bunch in the media. We've seen it on this show, obviously. And it's the Anne-Marie stuff. Because she was just on watch what happens live, and she's bringing this whole CRNA versus RNA thing, or not RNA. CRNA versus anesthesiologist, yeah. Well, there's an acronym for that one. Anesthesiologist? I'm sure there is an A-N-A?

An anesthesia. No, the N is nurse. A-N-A? I'm just going to stop talking. We're sounding dumb. The point is, so the association of anesthesiologists, like, reached out via Instagram and made a post that was how. highlighting the difference between a CRNA and an anesthesiologist to highlight the fact that one goes to like eight plus years of medical school and like tens of thousands of hours on the job and versus a CRNA, which doesn't require as much time or education. It's not knocking the profession.

She takes this a step further and says there's a whole thing between CRNAs and anesthesiologist, which as she's saying this and watch what happens live, I'm like, this isn't a thing. No. There's no way this is a thing. Right? I was like, this is bizarre. You think they're just beef in the entire time while you're asleep? Like, that would be very dangerous. No, random medical associations, I would imagine, aren't at war with one another.

And I could be wrong. Somebody correct me if I'm, it wouldn't be sick. Health care's a disaster enough already. You want to get into that conversation? We go to London. We do a show over there. The fuck is at me. Better health care.

My point is with all of this, and you mentioned it when you came over today, if she just stopped with this, stop talking about it After this episode, we would have been past it. She would have had a chance to potentially work her way back into the fold. But instead, she keeps hammering this shit home. And what drives me crazy about the whole thing with Amory, nobody's discrediting your profession. You falsely represented yourself and your profession.

People are commenting on that. Crystal is commenting on that. She's not saying that being a CRNA is not a great professional or that you didn't work your ass off to get there. She's trying her best to spin this narrative that people are belittling her. You're missing the point entirely. The anesthesiology association wasn't belittling you.

They were saying this is dangerous when you misrepresent yourself because you are not a doctor. That's very true. It's like if it's like the hangover when what's his nuts goes to the doctor and he's like, I'm actually a doctor. Let me see those charts. He's like, yeah, you said that last night you're a dentist. There's nothing wrong with being a dentist,

but you're not going to go perform heart surgery. That's my point. You're not going to go put somebody to sleep if you're not an anesthesiologist. So stop representing yourself as one and understand that the problems that people are having with you is not because they're talking shit about you being a CRNA. Yeah, that's a good point. And the funny thing about this is you said that I started talking about it when I got here. Yes, Steele and I do talk about Bravo outside of our podcast. Sure do.

A lot of times we yell at each other and say save it for the pod. But I agree. Like, the way that she's going about it makes no sense. And she hasn't, the reason that I believe that she actually did say that to Crystal originally at this Christmas party is because she's, hasn't addressed it head on. Not once has she said, oh, I never told you that. She just goes off on a different tangent and starts saying that she's knocking her profession, which again, she's not. She's just talking about you misrepresenting yourself. But if you don't address that head on, then I'm going to think and everybody else is going to think that you did say that at one

point in time and you're just trying to skirt around it by making up some other thing and trying to play the sympathy card, which is what she's trying to do. And I agree. Like, she went into this. this was a very good clean slate episode where in the midst of everything going on with Crystal is the best possibility of squashing all of this. And you can move on, which she's a new housewife. So maybe she didn't identify that situation. She's got nobody telling her to do that. But at least in Spain, she's not talking about it.

She didn't take the opportunity to want it up. She didn't pull Dorita aside and start talking shit on Crystal. Oh, that's not sure. The dinner, she brought it up. At the dinner, she brought it up. And I'm saying once Crystal went through all of this, she didn't do the petty thing and start talking to other people and say, isn't this ironic? Like, this is crazy. She did it in her

confessional, which is even more problematic for me, because you're not even going to talk about it then. Like, at least if you talked about it, then, your true color show, you're sitting by yourself in a confessional weeks later talking about this. That means to me that you're still not over it. And unfortunately, we're probably going to run into this problem again. We could have

just moved on and just had a nice, clean slate for the rest of the year, and maybe you get to work yourself back, and we get to find out, okay, and Marie's not so bad. Instead, you're still talking about it in the press. You're going on watch what happens live. You're doing things on social media.

Shut the fuck up. We don't care anymore. That's the thing. We have very small attention spans. We watch a thousand different shows. We talk about these shows. The reason that we're good at podcasting, the reason that people listen to our podcast

is because everybody has a small attention span. So we can kind of explain things, and then you remember things. We could move on from this, and you could be okay. Instead, you're just digging yourself a deeper hole, and you look like a fucking idiot. Yeah, and that's the toughest part of it all, I guess. is just like, she's missing the point entirely.

And she's going on these rants and tirades to defend herself. It's like, you're defending the wrong thing. No one's talking shit about this. You're missing it. But that takes us right into the episode. And as we know, Crystal's not feeling great. Her blood pressure's way up. She's feeling what they're describing as stroke symptoms, which is, yeah, that's terrifying

and something you need to get a handle on. And Anne-Marie jumps up and, to her credit, like, steps in and doesn't bring any negativity towards it. now me being me I have to do this sorry but was she 100% genuine because her confessional tells me different all right was she 100% genuine and I think that yes the medical care worker medical worker did take over and I think she would do this for anybody no matter of the circumstances I'm not saying she wouldn't step in and try to help out because that's her job and hats off to her for that but did she see this as an opportunity to be like

I guess you need me now. Like, here's my moment. Do you mean, like, as she's going over to Crystal to help, or in the middle of it all? In the middle of it all. In the middle of it all, for sure. I think that she kind of sprung into action because... Yeah, I won't knock her there. I won't knock her there.

And I think that, like you said, she would do that for anybody. So, again, I'll let that go. Just being completely unbiased, I think that she saw something going on, and she has the means to go help. And she went and did that. I think when she's sitting in the ambulance right there, I think they were sitting in the van before the ambulance showed up. And she starts talking... She says, oh, she could stroke out.

I'm like, what the fuck? In front of Crystal, brutal, wild statement to say, you're supposed to make her feel okay. That's not going to happen, though. She has high blood pressure. What do you think talking about having a stroke is going to do, except skyrocketed the blood pressure a little bit more. So dumb move there. But you know what? It was all hysteria at that point in time.

Nobody knew what was going on. So I'm even going to let that slide a little bit. But yes, I do think once the ambulance showed up, when she was back into actual, like, an EMS care, then Adam Marie probably said to herself, well, isn't that funny? You need me now. And she talks about it in the confessional later.

But in that moment, yeah, I for sure believe that she thought that. Yeah, and then especially in the confession, she's like, hmm, the irony. And then, and this is bias showing through a little bit just because she's been pissing me off. But then in my head, I'm like, okay, like, what's the irony?

What did you really do? Like, the ambulance was on the way. In her mind, it's irony because she's got herself convinced that Crystal was knocking her profession. and then she needed her the next day. But that's not what it was. No, it's not ironic for the rest of us. It's for her, I guess.

I don't know. And I don't want to knock her because she did jump into action. I'm giving her credit there. I'm just saying, like, the details of it is where I'm like, all right, but was this an opportunity to kind of rub it in her face a little bit and be like, now you need me, squeeze my finger. Like, that's what she did. Fine. You want me to not be biased? Yeah, you want me to bring some bias back?

No, no, no, I already did enough. I kind of want to. Okay, go for it. It would have been really funny if she went over and had no idea what that. to do. That would have been funny. And everybody's like, what the fuck? I thought he went to medical school. And everyone's panicking. And then everybody's panicking. And she's freaking out and she has no idea what's going on. Look, above all us. Happy Crystal's okay. We're happy Crystal's okay. And I'm happy that Anne-Marie was there because she was able to calm Crystal down and step in with her

knowledge because she did study for a very long time. So hats off there. I'm just pointing out little subtleties that didn't sit super well with me. But all in all, nice job. Moving on from there, we get to the church, and this whole episode has deeper meanings to it, especially for Sutton and even Kyle, and this moment was really nice to see because we've seen Kyle and Sutton strained for pretty much the entire season. They haven't really been vibing. They've been trying, and then something goes wrong, and then someone says something stupid, and then they're mad at each other again. It's nice to see them have this moment where, you know, Sutton even says, like, I equate, you know, of the church to missing my father and my relationship with him.

And then it goes even deeper as we see later where she's like with MERS and then with my husband. Like these ashes represent a lot more than just Mers and the church itself represents a lot more. And you can tell that this is something that she's had building up for so, so, so long. And it seems as though Mers' ashes were like the last straw. Like this is going to allow her to kind of move forward. but to see her connect with Kyle and the church in this moment specifically where you know Kyle's worried about Lorraine she's worried about her dad she talks about this dream she had about her dad where he's like yeah I'm just tired like pretty much like a

sign to like it's time to move forward Kyle had a dream about Lorraine like the whole scene's really touching and I don't want to keep hammering at home it's just I'm happy to see these two come together I'm sad that it took something like this to do that but that's what we see moments of grief tend to bring out the best in people or at least allow them to see through the bullshit and be like, you know what, there's more important things in the world. Yeah, for sure. And I think that a lot of it had to do with the two of them sitting alone together.

Yes. Instead of in the big group. Yeah. But also props to Sutton for apologizing up front. That too. Because I don't see Kyle doing that. And we've talked about this before where the relationship is a little one-sided, where it looks like Sutton deeply actually cares for Kyle and wants a friendship.

And Kyle sort of takes it for granted and just kind of knocks her down whenever she has to. This was nice. And, again, props to Sutton for saying that she's been a truly terrible friend. And look, I get it. Like, if you've been at odds and you're strained a little bit, you're going to say some dumb shit, and you're going to pop off, especially when things are going on and you feel like the other person doesn't have your back. And you're on a housewife show. And you're on a housewife show, of course.

So her apologizing saying that she was truly a bad friend in the beginning of the season, that probably meant a lot to Kyle. Yeah. And I want them to be friends. I do. We want them to be friends because now we're at a point where we're seeing everybody's kind of friends with Sutton. Yeah, I know. Like, everybody on this cast is having a good time with Sutton. And Kyle's, you know, there's some questions going on with her lifestyle and she's not addressing anything and it's probably annoying people.

So if you can get a comment, which is really funny to be here like three years later, but if you can have a common friend with Sutton, Sutton can explain some things away for you. And then all of a sudden, everybody's okay with you again. Oh, how the tables have there. Yeah, it's incredible. So that's what we want. And we want, again, we always stress this. We want everybody to be friends because, yeah, we know that there's going to be some toxic drama, things, going on. As long as it's organic, it's good. But everybody needs to be okay with each other for those

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I agree. Which is a weird way to look at it, but yes. But, you know, that's what we watch. That's what we want. The funniest, though, is got Erica sitting in the pew by herself, and she's still upset that no one's come over to her and apologized about the earring situation, which we addressed it already, but to reiterate, take the W in court.

They still have an issue with the fact that you have $750,000 earrings and they're still victims out there. That's the root of it. It's not that they think that you were lying or wrong. It's the other side of stuff that you're still not really talking about. That's the problem.

So to sit and sulking church, which was a very funny scene, but no one's apologized. I wouldn't hold your breath. I don't think they owe you an apology. They're still concerned about the victims. And I'm not saying that Erica Jane's not. She met with a bunch of them.

She's doing stuff with them to try to help them out financially. Like, I'm not knocking her. I'm just saying to look for an apology here is a little far-fetched. It's definitely a little far-fetched, but I still found it wildly entertaining. This just speaks to where Erica is. I mean, she's been so great this year, and she's shown so many different levels of emotions and just humor that she's brought to the screen. and she's just very pleasant to watch.

Everything that she's been doing this year has been great. This is obviously a piece of the older Erica Jane, which may or may not go away, and that's okay. But it's okay, especially. Because it's funny. And, like, her sitting there by herself, nobody going over and asking her, what's going on, are you okay?

I don't even know if she would say in that moment, I'm still pissed off about the earrings. I think she would just kind of, like, moving along. But it's still funny that she's thinking that way. And I love to see that because she's not letting it overtake her. She's not getting, and we'll talk about this later, She's not getting really drunk and yelling at people. She's still having a really good time.

But it's funny to see Erica Jane still holding on to those older things that she's not letting go. Well, I think that it's like a two part because you're totally right. But this also does cause her, I think, to get a little too drunk later. Yeah. But this is what's so great is you get this, in this episode, you get a blend of old Erica and new Erica because in the past, she would have gotten upset, gotten too drunk, and been fucking so mean to everybody. It would have been so over the top. Instead, you get this blend where it's like, yeah, she's still pissed about, like, no apologies for the earrings. She gets really drunk, but when she's drunk, she's very pleasant.

Let me ask you this. Do you think it would have played out differently, this specific scenario, if Rina and Kathy were there? Absolutely. So that is part of it. And this is what we wanted. Not Kathy so much, Rina for sure. Yeah, not Kathy so much. But she always, there's always animosity there with Kathy.

She just brings it out in the entire group. She gets Kyle riled up and that side of things. I feel like Rina has... Everybody's behavior changes when Kathy's around. I agree with that. That's the whole... That's the main aspect. But when Rina's around,

Rina will poke the bear over and over and over. Little comments. And without her, and this is exactly what we wanted. But we talked about this last year, and some idiots out there were talking about how Rina needs to come back and I can't believe they're not letting her stay, whatever. This show is so much better without her. Agreed.

Because you're getting these types of moments where we're seeing a more well-round at Erica Jane that we wouldn't have seen without Renna, so I'm happy that we're finally here. Well, it's even funnier that she started the season off with a therapist explaining to her what empathy is and how to have it. Whoever her therapist is is very good at explaining it because she's had empathy pretty much all season.

So that's all of her. I don't know if she's had empathy. I think she's doing her own thing. But she is, I think that there's been... She's just not stepping on toes, really. Regardless, keep doing what you're doing because... Still on the path, yeah.

And this goes back to episode one. And I said it, and you gave me shit. And I said, the year of Erica Jan, you're like, we'll see. You said that last year, though, too. You can't just do it every year. I'm right. Knock, knock. It's like making a Super Bowl prediction every year.

And then finally somebody gets it. And you're like, I told you. Who's there? Who's there? Thank you. I'm right. That joke got, you answered too late. Bad jokes.

I was already on to my part of it. But anyway, up next we go to Pobles Español, I believe it's called, with Manolo, who is just a delightful guide He's jamming on the guitar It looks like a scene from a Disney movie Like he's rocking out They pull up to this beautiful town They get out of the car

I didn't realize that he was the tour guide I thought it was just a man playing the guitar I'm like wow This is production value Not for the show But just for his show This is how all tour guides should greet people When you're in a foreign country

Yeah in a foreign country for sure No not well when are you going on tours in the States They go to a different city I might take a tour of the city Really? Yeah I want to do Like a duck pot? Like a duck boat thing?

Duck pot? I was going to say duck pond, but I don't know why. Duck boat. Duck boats are getting like banned because that one sank in Chicago or whatever. Yeah, a little danger always gets me going, though. I actually do want to go on like a one of those double deck or bus tours of like Philly and just do like. I wouldn't do Philly. I've seen enough of Philly.

I have too, but I would love to go around like, you know, it's pretty fucking wild that we don't talk about it enough in this city that like the country started. Like we drive by it. When we go downtown to watch the birds, we drive by where the country was founded every time. I've been there multiple times. So have I, but you wouldn't be interested in driving around the city in a bus? No. What if there's booze? Yeah.

You got me. All right, I'm in, I'm in. But they get to the table, and this, like, immediately, I'm like, God damn it. Because Amory starts talking. She's like, I take my profession very seriously because they bring up her helping out Crystal, which I feel like, and maybe it's because, you know, she feels backed into a corner. And so she just feels like she needs to defend herself at all times. Maybe. But then I'm like, have you watched this?

the shows ever like this is where with the newbies i get frustrated and this would be anybody i'm not just like trying to bash amory like constantly like watch tape man like understand that you don't need to do this every like storylines get old and we like you said have short attention spans and if you keep hammering the same shit home we had to be reminded in vpr that it was only three months later so we don't get irritated that they're still talking about the same shit because it's still fresh and even so look in the comments people like can we move on please it's like it's three months later. So if we can't handle that, we can't handle you talking about this all the time. But regardless, we get a very important conversation and hopefully one that Doreet learns from

between Doreet and Garcel. Because Garcel, to her credit, like she'll let things lie for a while, but she always needs some kind of resolve. Like she needs to get to the bottom of it. And she does it in a good way most of the time. Like when she brings it back up, you can tell what her goal. is from the onset when she does. And in this moment, it was to have an actual conversation. There is other times where I feel like she's just trying to, like, clap back and be like, oh, why'd you say that? And, like, get into kind of back and forth.

This moment I felt was more so, like, let's squash this finally. Yeah, it didn't initially feel like that to me, though. No? It felt like, all right, we've got one issue done with the house, and now we're completely wide open and everybody's okay. Let me bring up another issue. She does that. I know she does that.

That's what I thought she was doing. Oh, I see what you're saying. I could have sworn him. As soon as she started, I'm like, well, Why? Like, we just got over this whole stupid thing between Crystal and Anna Marie. We do not need to go back into another thing that we thought that we kind of moved on from. You both said the same thing.

You both said we're just going to not address it and move on. Why are we bringing it back up? It was kind of annoying immediately. But I do agree that we did get into at least some sort of better discussion. And I was amazed that Dorete was a little more well prepared this time. Receptive. And she did, you know, kind of go into the, let me compare a story where I can compare with you, but she did it in a different way where she immediately said, I'm not trying

to compare. I'm just telling you perspective-wise, and I'd love to know, and I think that this is part of it, and this is the biggest part of it, I'd love to know more about how you feel about certain things, because I feel about certain things a little bit differently, and we can compare those things. And I think that that resonated with Garcel, and at least, and I'm happy about this, too, because I didn't like the way the last one ended. And we gave Doree a ton of shit, and rightfully so, because she handled that terribly.

Awful. But now we're at least in a place where you can. recognize within each other that yeah maybe there is some learning to be had and i'm receptive to that learning and that's where we want to be and that was the the biggest takeaway from this in when garcel and garcel says like and i think we all think this like i don't think anybody in this group is racist and like we've said that before we don't think that dorit's racist but ignorance gets annoying and cannot be you can't just keep leaning on the fact that i didn't know yeah eventually you have to figure it out one way or another. And I appreciated that as Garcell's talking about it,

you know, she's saying, you don't understand, you've never had to walk in my shoes before. And Dorit goes, thank you for explaining it to me and saying it that way, instead of immediately jumping into the comparison train. But Dorit says, you know, I wasn't thinking about race when I said that. And Garcell's like, that's the point. And that is the point. And that's what we were saying. That's what a lot of people were saying. It's like saying that you don't see color. It's like you need to understand that people of a different ethnicity have a different life experience than you. Going through life as a white person is very different than going through life as a person of color. Interactions with the police, interactions just socially, period, can be different

and understanding that you may not understand but being open to hearing about the experience, learning about the experience, and understanding when you say certain things, if you're not thinking about race, it can come off as ignorant. It can come off. It can come is racist and it can come off that you don't know any better and that's not an excuse so to see her say thank you for explaining it to me by the way you seem to think i lived this sheltered life let me now give you some information and educate you about my life and i was i was in the same boat as you when she started i'm like fuck like don't compare it and she even says i'm not comparing and i was like that's all you have to say yep but then you can tell us about okay you grew up your father is

israeli you lived in a town you were the only jewish family like yeah you had to go through some shit too. And now Garcel knows that. But this does not happen without the conversation and without you, like the last time you had this conversation by just saying, well, you know, I'm Jewish. Like, there's ways to go about it. And I just thought that overall, this was a healthy conversation. They both grew from it, especially Doreet. And it's a way forward. And that's what we love to see. Yeah. And I think that Doreet obviously knows that she tanked that first discussion. Yeah, she does. And look, that's a good thing that she was thinking on it because she obviously came back and she was way more prepared and she was a little more cognizant of what she wanted to get across and also way

more receptive to whatever Garcel was saying. So that helps a lot. And I like that because that shows growth. If she came back and she just did the same shit, that means, okay, we had this really tough conversation and you didn't think about it afterwards. Garcel was thinking about it. Garcel didn't know what to think. She talked to Sutton about it. She was in a weird place after that and she decided to just kind of leave it go. I'm happy to see that Doreet was thinking about it and maybe she discussed it with other people and maybe she kind of came back and she has a better understanding of everything. That's what we need. Yep. I thought it was a really, really good conversation, but we get back to the house, and again, credit or credits do. Anne-Marie goes to

check on Crystal immediately, but we find out that the root of all this is high blood pressure, and I guess Crystal has that in her family and hypertension, which can be very dangerous when not monitored, so it's good that she caught it. It's good that it didn't get worse, and she's recovering, and we're very happy to see that she's recovering, but she really appreciates, like emphasizes, especially in the confessional she's crying and says, like, I'm very appreciative for Anne-Marie. I'm very glad that she was able to set aside all of our nonsense

and rise to the occasion. Which makes it so much tougher to watch Anne-Marie's... Recent stuff? Yeah, I know. Not just the recent stuff, but also just like what she did in her confessional versus what Crystal did. Crystal didn't talk about anything else. She didn't even talk about the beef that they had. She just

goes into how supportive Anne-Marie was during that entire process and that's all you really want like this is like we said before this is the chance to just move on and maybe build a friendship off of this because you know what we were having a lot of words with each other it got really nasty and then something happened and you were there for me it could be as simple as that but this is the cleanest slate ever it really is honestly like you can't get any cleaner than that and i think it just goes to show you like who amory is and i don't even think it's her trying to make a name for herself in the housewife world she's just so stop

on it and it doesn't make any sense to me like move on i think that she's insecure about her job she probably is and has no reason to be though we don't know anything more because she hasn't told us anything more like how often do you work what else do you do how much schooling did you do like you talk about going to look at your notebooks when you find out that Sutton has an esophagus problem like that that's weird everything that you've done as far as explaining what your job is and how often you work and what you do in your knowledge of the medical world everything that you've said that's come out of your mouth is weird it makes no sense you have done a shit job at explaining it you just had an opportunity to leave it like you should be able to realize and maybe self-reflect

hey i haven't handled this the best way i look like an idiot right now instead she doesn't even realize that and she thinks that she won and she's trying to just like parade this shit now afterwards and it's just tough to watch it was tough to watch but we move on to the glam squad showing up everyone's getting their glam done and erika jane is already hammered and makes it very clear and you can tell she's a little put off that nobody apologized and that was the root of her getting a little too drunk handles herself amazing in what we're about to talk about but i also need to reference this because it made me laugh sutton talks about mercury being in retrograde and the only reason i bring this up is because my mom will text our family group the day that mercury goes into

retrograde and i don't know if i believe in this stuff she swears by it but she'll text the group hey, everybody, just be on alert or be aware, Mercury's and retrograde, so get ready. Be careful out on the roads. Well, it's like technology gets fucked up. Like, just a lot of inconveniences happen. Sure, yeah.

I will say there has been moments where I'm like, fuck, everything's going wrong and I'll text and me like, hey, is Mercury and Retrograde? She's like, yeah, it's in like the seventh phase. I'm like, oh, fuck. So, I don't know, but it made me smile because it reminded me of my mom. But anyway, moving on from that.

The area dites are coming over. what does that make you think of I actually when they first said it I thought of crudeite and then I went to Crudite Yeah

Crudite We're very In America We are in America I'm gonna say crudeites Anyway I thought of that And then I went to aliens Oh see it was a divergent

Oh yeah you're Yeah you do all those movies I love those I don't know why Like the Hunger Games Divergent I kind of came up at the same time too Post-apocalyptic utopian society movies.

Shalene Woodley? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, and one of the planes. He is in that. He is in that. He's like the bad guy, weirdly. I think he becomes a good guy later.

I did see those movies. And then, uh... I didn't really stick with me, though. Hemsworth. Liam Hemsworth is in it. Oh. Is that him? No, wait, I take that back.

Luke? No, no, no. It's the, uh, the dude from, um, White Lotus. Which season? Season two. Oh, I know who you're talking about. You know what I'm talking about?

Why are we on a die? You've got a big soft dick. Why are we... It was in White Lotus. Why are we diverging into divergions? One of the clans or the, what do they call them, the factions, is erudite. And it's the smart people. That's what, that's all I was trying to do.

You derailed me. I didn't do it. I didn't do shit. This could have been done a minute ago, but here we are now. But that's what area diet reminded me of. And, you know, Sutton learned a lot of fancy words from them and like, like, teabagging. Like teabag bagging? The fanciest of words.

And we don't... the tea party was all about. The Boston Tea Party was about teabagging? Sure was. Everybody knows that. That's how we're going to get back of the British. We're going to tee bag in the Atlantic Ocean. We're going to tea bag all.

Oh, they teabagged the ocean. Okay. Yeah, that's why it's saltwater now. Well, I think what caught my ear more was the fact. No, no, I get it. It's gross. The fact that Sutton's like, I'd be open to it. What?

I don't know, man. She's done a complete 180 since that strip club. I think that thing had, the strip club. night had like emotional scarring on her in a weird way hold on again not kink shaming do people actually t-bag like sexually

probably really I would get anything out of it but like I wouldn't either and you know what I also wouldn't get anything out of a lot of the things that we're not shaming I agree but I'm just like I'm trying to picture a moment where I'm like this would be hot and it's like you squat like your naked

body squatting over somebody and tea bagging them sorry for everybody out that didn't know what tea bagging was but like think of like image think about that image i've done the image that's grotesque nobody wants a man squatting over well maybe but i don't know i i'm saying me personally like i wouldn't get anything out of it i wouldn't either maybe the girl likes it no way or the guy no way i have no idea let's put a poll out there should we put a poll right after it says which city should we go to next we'll do would you like to get teaback we also have to do would you like to t-bag?

Yeah, yeah. Okay, we're going to answer the hard-ed- We've got a great focus group out there. Yeah, we're going to answer the tough questions this week, don't you worry. But Erica's hammered and very funny and walking around the party, but she's handling herself well, and this is, like I said, a very different Erica Jane than we would have seen in the past because she's frustrated at the girls for not coming and apologizing about the earrings thing, but instead of acting out, she just got a little too lit, but she's

making an effort with everybody there. She's talking to Trevor. she's talking to all the area dites and she's doing a good job. And Monica from Philly. And Monica from Philly, which we need to talk about. Fuck, yeah. Beanie Siegel. That's what I wanted to talk about. That's who you think the king of Philly is? He was at one point in time, yeah.

But he got like the roots. Yeah, but I think that she's moved since like. Yeah, well, Will Smith's in a weird place. Again, I think that she moved abroad maybe in the 90s and she's from Philly. I'm just saying, Beanie Siegel. Beanie Siegel is huge in the 90s. I think, I think he needs to respect. Like, we could keep going.

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Subscribe now to ticklish business on your favorite podcast app and let's talk about Old Hollywood today. We're going to end up hating each other, aren't we? I hate you already, so we're already there. Oh, good. And it's still working. We got the father-son cooking squad of, I think it's surveys, S-E-R-V-A-I-S. I don't want to say his name wrong.

And Storm's Dad. Yep. Storm's Dad. Storm's daddy. Storm's daddy is there, and everyone has shifted their sights from Storm to the father. And, you know, everybody wants a daddy. But this is when we get Crystal talking to Garcel, and she brings up the conversation between Dorit and Garcel. And they say that it went, well, all that, as we saw.

But the bigger thing to take away from this is Crystal acknowledges, and it's even more infuriating, knowing that they don't come to terms. Yeah. She acknowledges, I saw a different side. side to Anne-Marie, I just want to move forward with her. And yet we're still stuck in the, I can't wait to, like, normally I'd be so over it. I'm so curious what sets it off again. Because, like, clean state. It's got to just be Anne-Marie, just bringing it back up.

That's got to happen. I don't know. We're going to find out. We don't need to keep hammering at home. But this is when we start to meet Sutton's friends. And not that I didn't enjoy them, but Danny Pellegrino bought it up on his podcast as well when he was covering this. why are we learning about Sutton's friends? They're interesting for sure, but, like,

I thought it was a great point that Danny made. Like, why are we talking about them? They have nothing to do with the show. They're not driving the plot line forward. They're interesting, sure. I think it was just to set the tone for Erica. Was it that, or was it to give, like, oh, you know what? Maybe it was to show, I think Sutton wants to emphasize,

like, hey, you guys look at me as this, like, divorcee that has a lot of money, but I actually had a life. yeah but Sutton you could have just done that probably with Sutton talking to them and like obviously Trevor's the main component of that like that's who Sutton is close to so he's going to come over you highlight him a little bit and then you get into the Sutton of it all I really think that talking to everybody else one could have just been a time filler maybe not a lot happens in there and they're just like all right you know we've got like one or two more episodes here in Spain so this is how we're going to end it yeah let's just talk to them for a little while but I really think it's setting the stage for Erica to say like all right here's fantastic see people. Like, here's an architect who's one of the most renowned architects in Bartholona and we're going to lean into that. He did say Bartholona too. I love that. He said Bartholona. He wasn't the... He wasn't the

architect. I know. I don't remember her name either. Not that it really matters. I mean, it was whatever. They got their 15 seconds of fame. But I really think it was just to set the stage for Erica because we were talking about how affluent these people are and then Erica kind of goes into her confessional talking about how she used to go

to dinners with Tom all the time. So she spent a lot of time with people that just like to hear themselves talk, which I thought was kind of mean to the people that are on the show right now, because now that's how we think of them. But she also said at least they're not rude. She said they're not rude. She said they're not rude. Then I can have a conversation with them.

But they don't think they're better then. They don't think they're better than turn their nose up at you. That's what she said. Exactly. Yeah. So Eric's whole spiel about being able to sit in a room with them and carry a conversation. At first, I'm like, okay, yeah, let's see how this goes. And it was unreal.

It was fantastic, especially because she's, and we have friends that do this where, like, if you bring up something obscure, they're like, oh, yeah, I know that. And you can tell that they don't actually know anything about it. Sure. She really knows. She knows. She was lit, I mean, she was lit, too. She was listening to them and replying and knew exactly what they were talking about and even brought up new subjects. Yeah.

And it was wild to watch. It was absolutely hands down, one of the most intellectual things that I've seen on Bravo. Yeah. And it was really remarkable. And, like, she's like, yeah, I know who that is, like, drunk. I'm like, no, you don't. And then she drops another line. I'm like, oh, you really do.

Yep. Hats off to Erica Jane. But it really was probably my favorite episode of hers this season. We get great lines, like, Merce is in the purse. And she's like, I know that you guys love them a lot. But Mers is in a Ziploc bag. I still don't have a problem with a Ziploc bag. As Sutton points out, when you get ashes, they come in a big bag anyway.

So I don't think it's that drastically different to it. No, it's easy. But then I think, did she pour him, pour him? Poor him. Well, not wrong. Did she pour him into the box later? I was confused about that scene. I think it was just for the travel purposes, which Sutton shouldn't have shown them that he was in his

Ziplock back to begin with. You know, just keep him in the room. You don't need to break him out and be like, hey, this is MERS. This is MERS. Like, hey, everybody, this is MERS. That is a bag of drugs. Say, hi to MERS. That looks like bad.

That looks like bad. That looks like bad Coke. Yeah. How did you get this over here? So, yeah, I don't think she should have shown them in the first place, but it was a sticking point and it's funny because it came full circle and I'm happy that it did. Yeah. Because Bravo was setting this up and the way that they produced it,

the way they edited it, every commercial break, they would lean into it and show this and they had the dramatic music and there was a lot going on and I'm like, we've been praising Erica all year. Is she going to say this and everybody's going to have an issue with it and then Eric is going to get into a big fight with Sutton. That would really suck because it feels like they're on good terms

right now. I don't really want to see that. And it wasn't. No. She said it. Everybody started laughing. Because it's funny. Nobody took, it was funny, but I hate when they pretense it like it's not going to be funny and it's going to be an issue well at least it wasn't it wasn't you know at least it wasn't but you know what they got me through all my emotions too so maybe they did a good job they did see maybe they did a good job look at that but the one thing i want to highlight at the end of the night because i thought this is an important moment and we've been

watching sutton on this journey and i feel like this trip this trip's for her more than anybody else obviously and i think that there's a lot more to it there's a lot of depth to it in what she's going through in processing. And I think that this is such a necessary step. We've been along for this journey for a very long time, watching her navigate, getting her feet in the ground with her business, moving on from her marriage, all of these different things. And this is kind of the pinnacle of all of that. And to hear her close friend Trevor, who's known her forever, say, you've really come into your own and you're where you're supposed to be. I think that that was so important for her to hear in this moment, just like validation. Like, you know what? You've had a lot

a question marks you've had a lot thrown your way you are doing the right thing everything you're doing is correct keep doing you because it shows and i think that we all see it too you're seeing a much more confident sutton she still gets their own way sometimes but she's very present of that she'll even say like yeah like i want she says it in this episode people think that i'm like you know there's erratic vodka drinking crazy sutton i want them to know about my background i ran the dance studio i was the dance studio manager like i had a life i moved to new york i lived in brooklyn gross according to Eric. Like all of these different things.

And I think that it was to put the cherry on top from Trevor having that moment. Like you look great. Like this is, you're in your element. I think is really important for her. Yeah, no, it definitely is. And again, this is Sutton's trip. So she gets to have this nice moment. And I feel like it also kind of sets up for the next morning where it hits a little bit harder.

Yeah. Because if, you know, we hadn't gotten all of that. And we didn't get that little monologue from Sutton talking about how far she's come and how much Mers actually meant to her, it may have not hit as hard as it did when she broke down the next morning. And again, her and Kyle are in a good place. Yeah, it's nice.

So seeing Kyle come to her and not, you know, say that she's overreacting or she's being dramatic or anything like that, which we may have seen, and I don't want to sell Kyle too short here, because maybe she would have come to terms of it. I think in this moment she would have been okay. I think she would have been, but, you know, we don't really know that.

So for them to finally get on good terms again the day before and then this to happen, and Kyle being there is important. Garcel being there is important, but having both of them there is great. And I really did feel for Sutton because, look, she thought about her dad, which is a huge thing of her life, and we got to talk about it yesterday in the church. Now we're going through Mers, who was kind of another father figure for her in a different way. And she was really going through it.

And we don't really see Sutton break down like that, at least like in an organic way. We see her say random things when she gets flustered. We see her get upset here and there. This was actual real emotion. Like she was very sad, it was raw, it was sad, and she was going through a lot of it. So for her to have friends that she can lean on, and we've seen Sutton in the past have no friends to lean on, it would have sucked if we saw that, or if we see like a crystal doing something like that and she doesn't have anybody, it sucks. So having everybody kind of come together is a really nice moment.

And again, this is what the trip was supposed to be for. Yeah, they're going to go out and they're going to shop for three minutes, but they're going to do this stuff too. And that was funny too, like the three-minute shopping scene. It was a great well-rounded episode. It was. And to see her in this last scene just walk us to. through it. And it's almost as though she was walking us through her process of processing all of this. She's like, this bag of ashes represents way more than nurse because she lost her father's

ashes during a move and is upset about that. She also equates it to her marriage. She's like, I'm saying goodbye to the men, the male figures in my life are all going with this ash into the water. And I think that it's really important to note that because it's not, it's not even though she's saying it from like a sad place it's almost like this this pivotal milestone in her life to be like this is where sutton strack sets herself apart this is where i take the step forward i leave my old life behind i'm not forgetting about my old life i'm paying homage to it but this is who i am now and i'm proud of this person that i've become and i want to be this person so i feel like this moment signifies like almost a coming out party for sutton where it's like here i am world and i fucking love

myself. I've worked my ass off to get here. She's not even, like, belittling, like, her ex-husband in this moment. She's just saying, like, these are the three men that have been such major figures in my life. And I'm grateful for what they gave me. It was tough with the ex-husband for sure at the end. But this is such a pivotal moment for her, her growth, her everything, to just be like, and now I'm me. And I thought that was really cool to see. You ain't wrong. But anyway, let's get on to some questions. Up first from Madison Centafonte. Do we think that at this point, any of the women like one another?

I used to love Robha, but these ladies now seem to hate one another? You got that from this episode? I would say this is the episode that you wouldn't get that from. Same. Interesting. I mean, I don't know. I'm not really sure because we just watched Garcel and Durit have a nice moment. Kyle and Sutton had a good moment. Eric is having a good season.

I don't know. I mean, maybe, yeah, maybe, no, because I think Crystal Sutton and Garcel are all still really good friends, and they hang out outside of the show. You could argue that Kyle and Derreed are kind of drifting apart. We've seen that all season. Kyle's kind of drifting away from the group in general, but I think the rest of them are fine.

Yeah, interesting. Maybe I'm missing something. Also, great job reading that name. Thank you. But that's just the name. I can read names. It's when they get, like, cleverers when I fuck it up. oh speaking of somebody commented on youtube because i spelled premiere wrong not because i don't know

how to spell premiere but i was typing and i guess just messed it up i'm afraid that people now think i'm dumb because someone commented like oh was that steel with the premiere oh damn they called you out too whoa whoa whoa i was like just because i can't read you i'm actually very good at english like i'm an english major so let's pump the brakes all right i'm I'm not stupid. Okay. Oh, I like this. We haven't done this in a while.

From Quebec 13, can you rate the Beverly Hills Housewives' favorite to least favorite? Yeah, I could probably do that. You think you could do that? It's kind of tough. Because I don't, I mean, Amory's at the bottom. That's an easy one. I think that's universal.

Doreet's slightly, well, Doreet's above her, not that slightly. then I'm going to put there's a few of them that are like Kyle right next to each other yeah I don't know why I'm doing this from bottom up I just wanted to say I'm Mary was at the bottom I'm putting I'm putting Sutton at one Garcell 2

Kyle 3 3 Kyle before Erica yeah I'm putting Kyle before Erica what do you mean Eric is working her way up Wow, you're a fucking E.J. hater. I'm not an E.J. hater.

I've got Eric at 4. I'm missing people, though. That's a problem. Yeah, yeah, I'm missing people. Just you go if you have it ready. Sutton 1, Erica 2, Garcell 3, Kyle 4, 3, 3, 3, 4, 3, 8, 5, Annary 6. You forgot Crystal. No, I didn't.

Then I put her after. Nope. Okay. See? There's 7. Well, relax. Here you go. Too many.

1. Erica, 2. Crystal Garcel, three. They're sharing the third spot. Four, Kyle, five, Doreet, six, and Reese. There's still six, because I used a loophole. Suck it, nerd. Spell loophole for us.

Apparently I can't. Apparently, I'm dumb. L-O-O-O-P-W-H-O-E. Because it's a whole loop. W-H-O-L-E. Duh. Last one from K-L-Y. Oh, no, we got two more.

I saw a better one. From K-L-Y-11. and thoughts on a Rina return since Raba is so boring lately. I don't care if they cancel the damn show. Cancel it before you bring her back. I cannot stand Rina on my screen. I don't want to see it. Send Rina and Monica to like some sort of.

Traders or something. Traders. Yeah, that's good enough. Ultimate Girls trip. Nobody wants to watch them anymore. How about that? The last ones from Hotcakes, 1987. Does Dev ever want to make a guest appearance on the pod?

Keep sending these. Keep you. I love if that's going to work, but yeah. It's not going to work, but keep sending them. We want her on. That's not just me. Shooter wants her on too. We would love to have Dev on.

She's very stubborn and does not want to come on because she thinks that you guys don't want to hear from her, which I tell her is crazy talk. You would rather hear from her than these two idiots. So keep that up. Keep asking that question. But anything else there, champ? Nope.

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