Bros & Shows - Meredith Always Roots for the Underdog (RHOSLCs07REUNIONPT2, RHOMs05ep11, RHOPs07ep16)

Episode Date: February 3, 2023

We got Part 2 of the RHOSLC Reunion and boy are we glad this seasons over. We kick things off with RHOM and Alexia has it out for Nicole. The ladies also consult a lawyer to sort out some of their dis...agreements... In Potomac, their was some alleged "vagina bumping"(- Gizelle) going on between Mia and Dr. Wendy. However the bigger news out of Potomac this week was the confirmation from Robyn of Juan's infidelity. Thats all we know though since we didn't sign up for Reasonably Shady's patreon... Then it's back to the reunion to finally put an end to this season of Salt Lake. Whitney and Heather are still on the outs and for whatever reason Heather and Meredith continue to stand by Jen Shah... This episode is brought to you by BetterHelp. Give online therapy a try at betterhelp.com/bravbros and get on your way to being your best self.  This episode is sponsored by Care/Of. To receive 50% off your first order of vitamins and other health products go to takecareof.com and enter code bravbros50 Time Stamp: RHOM (20:10) RHOP (42:43) RHOSLC (57:50) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:07 I don't need the spotlight. I shine just fine. Hi, I'm Karma. And yes, I am a bitch. Brav Bros. E-A-T-L-E-S-E-E-O's! Good evening, everybody, and welcome back to another episode of Brav Bros. your favorite podcast from the bros for everybody for whoever wants to listen i am your co-host
Starting point is 00:01:34 steel russell joined as always by the one the only skeets scoots m'goots what's up dude uh highly emotional week highly emotional week and not for the reason that you think oh really that last of us episode oh my god look this is we we talk about no free ads this one deserves a free ad i don't give a shit great show go watch at last of us on hbill third episode nick offerman ron swanson it has emotionally abused me all week i texted our video game group yes we have a video game group shout out to the dads who yeah we're nerds um but i texted you guys like immediately after it ended and i was afraid i was going to give up spoilers but i was like this is one of the greatest episodes of TV, I think I've ever
Starting point is 00:02:26 watched. It was so unexpected. It was so emotional. Nick Offerman was incredible. I think the, he acted alongside. I think it's Murray Bartlett, I believe, is his name. I think so, yeah. It's the guy from season one. Manager from White Lotus, yeah. And the love story between the two
Starting point is 00:02:42 of them was so beautiful and just like, I told Dev, I was like, look, I know you don't like zombie shows. I was like, we have to watch this episode because it's remarkable. Like, just for what it was. It's a standalone. And honestly, it was It was just so beautifully well done. And obviously, look, I mean, when emotions are running high after the Eagles make the Super Bowl,
Starting point is 00:03:01 whoop, we're not going to harp on it because we expect it to be here. So fuck it. And you know what? There was, and we don't even have to get to the Rosenthorne. There was somebody out there that was like, I don't tune into your fucking podcast to listen about the Eagles. I went to an Eagles game and I was at the spectrum. Like, shut the fuck up. Shut up.
Starting point is 00:03:17 We have personalities. I'm sorry that we're not fucking Bravo robots that are sitting here like, oh, well, let's just talk about it. no we have lives outside of bravo other people enjoy it you don't sit your sad ass down maybe go watch the last of us and cry a little bit like we did all right anyway motions running high i tweeted it out and i said we're this the next couple episodes are going to be unstable are you okay no that's like feeling great that that sounded like a me rant oh yeah no i'm good i'm dumped it a little bit fired up but yeah no feeling great you know i'm just expecting a little super bowl we got a week off so i would like
Starting point is 00:03:54 like to say it's going to be like a little roller coaster that's going to come back down and then go back up, but it's probably just going to ride high for the next week. So mind your business. Yeah, no, I'm right there with you. I took a much different approach, probably like the complete opposite end of the spectrum here. So I worked out today, then I went to do a little, I've been doing meditation a lot lately. I've been trying to get back into it because it helps my brain kind of like settle down. Yeah. I'm in the sauna. We have a sauna at the gym now. It's amazing. And when no one else is using it like the trainers you can just hop in whatever so i'm sitting in the sauna doing like a little 20 minute meditation and it was like about getting in touch with like your surroundings
Starting point is 00:04:32 and like being present all that stuff at the end was like and now like while you're calm in your meditative state ask the universe for something that you need support in and i shit you not organically it just popped into my brain birds need to win the super bowl need the birds to win the super bowl and i got out of the the sauna i was like wow that was that was genuine that just like came from the heart like that's where my soul focus is right now is like i don't care about anything else at the moment i need the birds to win the bowl and all will be well everything will be great everything will be great and look i mean like i said i tweeted it out that we were going to be unstable for the next couple of weeks uh we got a lot of support you know somebody actually said go with god go birds
Starting point is 00:05:14 who hell yeah i will let's get to like the rose and thorne kind of i'm going to kind of make it a broad one but I think for my like overall rows was the overwhelming support from non-football fans that they were like I don't even watch football but because of you guys I'm now watching the Eagles and I am rooting for them go birds and they're all saying go birds and actually I will read one because it like kind of culminated in one of the best messages we've received simply because of who it's from okay okay so I get a message, and I'm like, you know, I try to get to as many as I can. And this one stood out because the last name is McInerney.
Starting point is 00:05:56 Oh, okay. Yeah. So that's my wife's last name. There you go. So I was like, oh, wow, McInerney. I was like, I thought it might be like a cousin or something like that. So, and I had to ask her how to pronounce her name because she's from Dublin, Ireland, and moved to Vancouver. We're all over the world.
Starting point is 00:06:13 Yeah. And she, her name is Sive, like five, but with an S. because it's spelled S-A-D-H-B-H. Okay. Yeah, and I can't pronounce, like, six months to process that one, but all right. I can't pronounce, like, normal people's Instagram handle, so, like, I had no shot. So she helped me out. It's from Sive McInerney, my boyfriend and I are Irish and living in Canada, but we started watching NFL.
Starting point is 00:06:39 After listening to the podcast, I told him this is now an Eagles house, and he has no choice, go birds. Fuck yeah. And that's the right attitude. All right, if he doesn't want to be a birds fan, you tell him he is a bird's fan. you tell him he is a birds fan. He doesn't have a choice. All right. We bleed green, man. We bleed green. And that takes me to all of my thorns, which is the 49ers fans of the world. And I will read his name because genuinely I did appreciate the shit talking. And this person's Instagram profile picture is legit an arm
Starting point is 00:07:10 with all of the World Series that the Giants have won tattooed on the arm. So like it's a real fan. No, but I, it's, it's not a fair weather 49ers fan. We got a lot of, we had a lot of California people chiming in like, uh, boo. And I'm like, you don't even, there's no way that you give a shit about this game. Yeah. And so, like I said, profile picture is all of the World Series, all right. And he started talking shit to us way before the game started. Like, he sent me a picture of the lighthouse in San Francisco, like lit up with the 49ers logo on it and like, all this other. So, really help you. After we won, I didn't say shit to him. And I said, like, once we win, I'm going to come back
Starting point is 00:07:49 and I'm talking all the shit. I didn't say a word. I didn't have to. The game spoke for itself. They scored seven points. What a joke. This game was ruined by Cheaty Eagles first score. Bullshit refs, dirty plays. Go Bengals. Not only that, but on the picture. Because he wanted Joe Burrow
Starting point is 00:08:07 to win after they, like, he was now putting his faith in another team, I guess. He lost twice? Yeah, he's Ofer. I'm an idiot. Yeah, Tim, you're Ofer, buddy. So you don't get to talk shit anymore. But we did tie it up, like, you know, he was nice at the end of the exchange, but it just made me laugh because on our stories, he kept commenting because we were both at the Conjie Corner, like drunken slobs, like just throwing like Philly insults that
Starting point is 00:08:32 everyone always uses at us, like scumbags, dirtbags, all that shit. But yeah, Tim, Niners stink, birds rule, go birds. Oh my God, that's so funny. Yeah, no, I mean, going back on, how does that? Did you say that girl's name? Sive. Sive. All right.
Starting point is 00:08:50 Going back on Sive's comment. You could say that we have influenced her and her boyfriend to become Eagles fans, right? You might be able to say that. I feel like that's the appropriate word. You know what? Not for this person, all right? Because I took a page out of your book and I went through our reviews. And look, I mean, we have a lot of high reviews.
Starting point is 00:09:09 A lot of people love us. But the one stars are, I don't even care. They're just funny. They're just ridiculous. They're usually really funny. This is one that I miss. The title of this review is not influenced. I've seen this.
Starting point is 00:09:21 I'm so glad you're reading it. Yep. They take credit. Create it. Read it. They take credit it. Take it. They do that.
Starting point is 00:09:33 They take credit for quote unquote influencing things like Andy apologizing to Garcel. Um, dot, dot, dot, check Reddit slash Twitter. They cloaked that in real time. Cloaked that in real time. Clocked, probably. And it trended. Men taking credit for women's work once again. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:09:52 God. You know, the problem with that whole situation, and I remember that pretty vividly, a lot of people were pointing out that they thought that it was us that influenced Andy to do that. That was probably actually predates me calling us influencers. I'm not mistaken, but who the hell knows?
Starting point is 00:10:07 Just shut up. It's one thing if you were, like, making a joke, but clearly you listen to us because that's a running joke, the influencer thing, the quote-unquote influencers. That's a running joke in our podcast. So clearly you're listening to the podcast. Don't give us one star because you got mad that we're quote-unquote taking credit for someone else's work. We're not.
Starting point is 00:10:28 A lot of people said that we did it and we ran with it. What the fuck do you want? The breadcrumbs are there, if you want. So, you know, whatever. I fully agree. Yeah. No, not with you. With the review.
Starting point is 00:10:39 Yeah. All right, my rose, while I also went down that review rabbit hole, and this was just a little solid for me it made me feel pretty good. It says, solid listen. Shooter is so funny. Steel has a great voice. Their takes aren't always on point,
Starting point is 00:10:56 but makes for a good listen. Would help if they had time stands, but not everyone watches all the shows. I get it. We now have timestamps. We do have timestamps. So if you do want to make sure that you listen to a specific point
Starting point is 00:11:06 or whatever, we have timestamps. So it's okay. I just like that they said that it was really funny. You have a great voice. We've heard that before, but being called funny is nice.
Starting point is 00:11:15 You know, I'm not going to let that go to my head. You know what I liked it? It was a four out of five, right? Yeah. Yeah, I liked it because... It was an honest review. Yes, I appreciate honesty. You don't have to, like, pander to us.
Starting point is 00:11:28 Like, if it's a four out of five and you give... You know, it's a solid list and I don't agree with all their takes. It's four to five. Well done review. Yeah. Honestly. I'm not saying don't... Wait, wait.
Starting point is 00:11:35 I'm not saying don't give us five-star reviews. I'm just saying that was an honest take, and I appreciate the honesty. But this is a reunion episode. so we have to kind of speed through the rest of this. So let's touch on the news real quick, just because there's a couple things that are pertinent to the current shows that we're watching,
Starting point is 00:11:54 such as Roslick might be saved because we have the second coming of the prophet, Mary Cosby. She's coming back. You don't have any experience with her. No, no. I went back and skipped through a couple different episodes just to see if I could get used to her.
Starting point is 00:12:09 Because we did talk about this, about her potentially coming back at some point. I know, I think it was before Salt Lake started, we were talking about her maybe coming back just to save the show because we already knew that Jim was going to have to go away. I have mixed feelings because she was funny for TV, probably not in real life. She's probably terrible to be around in real life, I imagine.
Starting point is 00:12:30 Oh, yeah, I could not imagine being near her, no. No, but I just don't know if this show is going to be saved, you know? And she's coming back in a friend-of slot, too. She's a friend-of. So are they just going to run with four and then have her as a friend of and then I heard that none of the like angies or dana's are coming back no they all got whacked i think what's going to happen i think they're bringing new people on okay i think i saw there's two maybe three here's the thing the show's going to have to stand on somebody's back right it's going to need to be carried such as a jen shaw right or like a teresa i'm not comparing jen shaw right or like a teresa i'm not comparing jen shaw and Teresa, I'm just saying, like, a lot of our listeners really want us to do that. Yeah, I know, but we're not going to.
Starting point is 00:13:18 But it needs that headliner because Mary Cosby, even if she wasn't a friend of, is definitely not the star. She is comedic relief. She's off the rails, but you can't build a show around her. Can Lisa step into that role? I don't know. I don't know if Lisa can carry it alone. I just don't think she gets the support from the other cast members
Starting point is 00:13:38 that we see. Like, people are afraid of Teresa. People are afraid of Karen, in a sense. Like, the big, like, ringleaders, if you will, of the Housewife franchises, people are either afraid of them or they support them blindly. Lisa gets none of that. Yeah, so I think, you know, she's entertaining enough to carry it. I just don't know if she's going to have the support.
Starting point is 00:14:01 And, like, you said, I guess it's almost like reverence, like kind of shying away from, like, the alpha, if you will. Yeah. But, I don't know, it'll be, I'm... I'm now intrigued enough, and maybe that's exactly why they did it. I will watch next season because Mary is back, and she's that much of a wild card that I'll tune in to the first. I'm surprised that we got noticed.
Starting point is 00:14:21 I guess they do have to start filming pretty soon, right? I would never think. Because they haven't even started filming Beverly Hills yet. Well, that's because they were on a hiatus. Yeah, I know, but we don't know how long that's going to be. So I feel like they kind of move some of the timelines up because... Oh, wait, I thought they started filming recently. I think they did.
Starting point is 00:14:36 I think Beverly Hills started... Yeah, I think so. I don't know, because Sutton's in Paris right now. oh yeah and i know garcel was somewhere which by the way we forgot to talk about garcell putting out some eagles love love that did you not see that no how did you not send that to me uh i think i saw it on twitter but i wasn't really paying attention maybe it's just like a scroll through okay but a couple of our listeners followers actually tweeted back at us and said you better talk about garcel supporting the birds i think she put up i think it was an
Starting point is 00:15:03 instagram story now that i'm thinking about it and it was like a picture of jalen hurts and said like go birds love jalen blah blah blah i'm like hell yeah garcel's on our team that's great got garcel on our team because crystal's a rams fan and so is sutton it's like boo i know sutton's like a college football fan which i get southern attitude at least she's not a cowboy's fan that's a good point um yeah no i saw that like the filming schedule's crazy um salt lake starts next week filming already they just finished the reunion so they get like no time off really they yeah they start filming on the 13th You know what?
Starting point is 00:15:37 I think that's more common than you think. Because the reunion doesn't film until the season is done airing. So they have more time off than... In between the reunion. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think that's fairly common with the turnaround, honestly. Yeah. I think that it's more surprising that Beverly Hills maybe hasn't started filming yet
Starting point is 00:15:55 because it's usually pretty close after it finishes their final season or the final episode of the last season. Yeah. So I don't really know how that's going to work out. But you know what? It does look like a lot of work goes into that off season, if you will, though. Did you see that binder that Lisa had tonight? Yeah. Holy shit.
Starting point is 00:16:13 She must have been working on that thing from, like, the end of filming till the reunion. I think that you work on it during the season. You see shit pop up. You're like, oh, I need a receipt. Oh, need a receipt. You keep kind of building up your ammo. I'm going to start printing out eye message receipts just to have them. Just goofs.
Starting point is 00:16:28 And I'll fold up my back pocket and just like whip it out and be like. Just break it out and make, well, you said that. Yeah. And just have it be something totally benign. Just like, hey, when you're going to the park. One of my jokes that I thought was funny that I sent to somebody that you don't even know. I'd be like, read this one. It's pretty good.
Starting point is 00:16:40 I got a receipt for you. I like that. If you pull that, like when we go watch the Super Bowl, if you pull something out of your pocket hand to me, I will, between that and if the birds win, or when the birds win, it'll be the greatest day of my life. That would be a great bit. It's a good bit. Now, my only question is, where the fuck were we? Point the tangent, huh? Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:02 No. Seal just looked to me like he forgot the weird. podcast. I don't know. It was a loaded question. No, I mean, we just, I want to touch on, there's two more things and they kind of go one and the same only because they are these kind of split off shows that we're seeing. And it sounds like Roney Legacy may have gotten the axe.
Starting point is 00:17:22 And I know that you are not bummed out at all about that. Nope. Yeah, Shooter didn't want to see it. I wanted to see what they could do. I wanted to give them like two episodes to sway me, but I was not confident. I saw a picture of It actually really made me laugh It was a picture of Luann
Starting point is 00:17:38 reading the page 6 article About Rooney Legacy getting the axed She looked quote unquote on edge Oh And it's like I don't know how you see She was just reading a fucking article But it was funny that she was actually reading the article About it getting axed
Starting point is 00:17:51 At some restaurant Like having some coffee or something in the morning And yeah, not mad about it at all I thought it was going to be a train wreck I thought no I didn't think it was going to be a train wreck Honestly I thought that it was going to be interesting for about two to three episodes
Starting point is 00:18:03 and then everybody would realize why they no longer watched or wanted to watch Roney. Oh, okay. You know what I mean? We needed a new blood. We needed a lot of new things going on and it was just more of the same.
Starting point is 00:18:14 I feel like two to three episodes in you're going to be like, all right, Durinda, no. I can look up with today, please. Like, we had enough of you on Ultimate Girls trip. Lose, outdoor Lose. I'm talking to you, buddy. But, yeah, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:18:27 I'm not super sad that I got the axe. What are you feeling? First, lights of comment. I love the hateful bromance that has blossomed between you and Lowe's. Oh, yeah. And he messaged us today. He bought one of our t-shirts.
Starting point is 00:18:39 So. Good job, Lose. This love-hate relationship that's going to hopefully continue for the tenure of this podcast. But the other one is an Ultimate Girl's Trip moment. And I'm excited for the next two seasons of Ultimate Girls' Trip, and there's been a lot of drama coming out of them. But this one involves your girl Brandy. and an OG Caroline Manzo.
Starting point is 00:19:05 And I guess Brandy was trying to kiss her as we saw her do in the last Ultimate Girl's trip with, was it Tamara? I think so, yeah. No, no, Tamara was okay with it. It was, um. Vicki wasn't happening. Vicki wasn't happening.
Starting point is 00:19:20 I guess Caroline was not having it either. And from the article, it sounds like she did kiss her multiple times against Caroline Manzo's will. It got pretty messy. I think they asked Brampton. to leave the next day because of that because it was inappropriate and then Caroline decided to leave of her own volition because she just didn't want to be there. I think Brandy left too. Brandy was told to leave. Yeah, but then I, Caroline also. Caroline then left, but Caroline left because
Starting point is 00:19:44 she wanted to leave. Brandy was asked to leave because she was inappropriate. It's, it's a nasty situation. It's not great. I just think that. And isn't Brandy going to be popping up in OC now too? We got rumors that she might be in Beverly Hills, I thought. I thought she was. was seen with Tamara in O.C. I don't know. I mean, look, there's speculation. I guess, like, she does make for, like, relatively interesting TV, but at the end of the day, like, do you really want shit like that to happen when you're filming?
Starting point is 00:20:13 Like, no. You can't be out here kissing people that don't want to be kissed. Like, period. That's all. That's it. There's no more that really needs to be said. You can't do that. She doesn't want you to kiss her.
Starting point is 00:20:20 Fucking don't. Definitely don't double and triple down as the article states. Yeah, I just, I think this is, like, the dangerous waters that you get with X, X, is that everybody, I don't don't think the brandy's like pining for a position anywhere i think this is truly just who she is and what she does usually when she gets drunk but it just doesn't make for great tv sorry but like it's just not i think the the schick will run its course before the season does yeah and yeah i think she's good for an ultimate girl strip because it's what five six episodes it's not you know i don't think that you put her on a full time if she's pulling this shit all the time it's going to like
Starting point is 00:20:57 you said it's going to get old get old real fast but um we've already lingered for too long. We got to move on and the good thing is we only have three shows to cover this week so we can get through it a little bit quicker but we're back in Miami and I actually, I couldn't sleep last night. Are you dancing
Starting point is 00:21:15 because I'm welcome to Miami? We're back in Miami and you know what? I'm going to do this just once because we got a new soundboard and this thing is legit. We used to use this like piece of shit little box that I would have to tweak because it would
Starting point is 00:21:31 sound like shit. Everyone always complained that our volumes were too low. You can blame this stupid box because we had no idea how to use it. We did our best. But now we got this fancy podcasting machine. And I can say, we are back in Miami and do this. We got DJ
Starting point is 00:21:49 sound effects. The best is I can't even actually really hear it. It just plays out of like a headphones somewhere in the room. I'm like, Jesus. But it worked really well for Miami. Yeah, no, that's why I wanted to use it just once. We're playing at that lingerie party. We'll play the clip.
Starting point is 00:22:02 Laundrae party. Every time we bring it up. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. We got to play the clip. You mentioned the lingerie party. You got to play the clip where the girl gets smacked on the butt, and there's three people walking around a lingerie, and it's wildly uncomfortable. Honestly, we saw Lenny at the end of this episode, so I'm surprised that we didn't get the clip.
Starting point is 00:22:17 I'm, dude, I was like, I didn't want to see him on the screen, and he looks so scummy in there. We'll get to that part. Yeah, we'll save it. We got to save it. I know. And we're like, you know, we're unhingedged. We're on hinged. I'm on Hinge shooter
Starting point is 00:22:28 But we get back into it And it's still at Nicole's party This whole scene's kind of weird to me And we don't watch I don't watch these until like The day before the podcast So it's already been out for a while So I read a lot of comments
Starting point is 00:22:45 Of like people talking about How they felt about the episode And everyone kept bringing up Alexia Alexia Alexia And you know I've already turned on Alexia I think I liked her the first episode that we saw her because we didn't know any better like we hadn't seen her like everybody honestly yeah that's true that's true but what she's saying to Nicole is it just doesn't make any
Starting point is 00:23:06 sense to me like she's defending Larsa she's saying like you like we saw it last week but it's like you can say whatever you want to say anybody can say whatever they want to say which is ridiculous which is I think of I don't know if she was just saying it like look people are going to talk shit no matter what or if she was actually supporting Larsa I think it's the latter she's definitely supporting Larsa because the whole episode she's just like she's picking and choosing these battles where it doesn't make any sense. She just doesn't make any fucking sense
Starting point is 00:23:31 with what she's like saying. I don't get when she's at the lawyer thing and we'll get there later, but she seems to take umbrage with literally every single thing Nicole does no matter what. It can be completely unrelated to her and she still jumps in.
Starting point is 00:23:44 Like, why are you defending Larsa? Larsa was wrong. To sit at Nicole's party and defend Larsa makes no fucking sense to me. Marisol doesn't help the situation. And I will say, You got that one confessional where Marisol is like, can I have a new best friend?
Starting point is 00:23:59 Like, at least she's aware of that. But in the moment, she's still defending her. That's what I'm saying. So you completely negate your point. And you can stand by your best friend in a moment where they're being a dumbass by just not saying anything. Like, you just let them go. And then later you'd be like, yo, dude, what the fuck was that? Like, that wasn't a good look.
Starting point is 00:24:18 But in the moment, you don't have to embarrass them in front of everybody. You can let them shoot themselves in the foot. And then you clean up the wound for them. And then you get that right on the, I don't know, what's the reverse of on the heels? On the toes? That would be the opposite of it. We do that. On the toes?
Starting point is 00:24:33 Let's start that. We're going to do that. So, like, if something. What if this is already a term and now you're taking credit for starting a term? Yeah, I'm going to contact the dick now. Somebody needs to knock you down a peg. So on the toes of that, we get Alexia and Adriana and Tieri, our boy. Oh, my.
Starting point is 00:24:51 I thought, if I'm, if I'm Tieri. I'm pissed off. I'm like... Same. What the fuck? Like, who is this woman? Why is she talking shit? Why is she digging up my records?
Starting point is 00:25:02 It makes absolutely no sense. Was his remark necessary at all? The can you read? No, but... But he did recover, I thought, a little bit. I thought the recovery was hilarious. Do you have your glasses? Yeah, they have your glasses?
Starting point is 00:25:14 I was like, good, save, dumbass. Just fucking lean into it. Like, if you're really, if you're just going to, like, completely insult her, you got to just say, can you read. You got to just leave it there. Because it's funny, at least. Like, somebody might get a laugh out of it. But if you try to recover, just be like, eh.
Starting point is 00:25:28 But look, at the same time, Alexia blows up. She's like, oh, what are you questioning me? Calling me an idiot, essentially. It's like, no. But you were a huge asshole and went through his public records to prove that he was still married, which later you found out that you didn't even fucking read the thing. So you know what? Let's bring it up.
Starting point is 00:25:46 Can you read? That's what I'm saying. Like, that was the best vindication I've ever seen. But it would have been so funny if somebody. was there or like look i could see julia i could see Nicole making that joke just being like shit can you read yeah i mean i thought it was a layup because like the fact that it comes out that she just didn't read that part like that all you had to do is scroll down and you wouldn't have caused this whole scene and all of this with adriana so the joke was perfect and here's the thing
Starting point is 00:26:18 like a lot of people got mad because you know it's a man saying something like that to a woman and obviously, you know, it's not a great look. In this moment, though, dude, he's so pissed, and he's been slighted way worse than anybody else there. It's like, dude, you're trying to ruin this man by saying that he's still married. We've already brought up the point that they're on TV. She needs to talk to his ex-wife. Like, let's get the ex-wife on the screen.
Starting point is 00:26:42 The fact that he has to bring his marriage license to vindicate himself is ridiculous. And then he hands it to her, and she says, what am I going to do? Like, wipe my butt? Like, I don't need this. Well, that was just her entirely deflecting, which is all. Also, like, now you see why her and Larsa get along so well, they just deflect their asses off. And they're like, immediately, Alexia knows that she did something wrong and she's not going to face the music. So she immediately just goes off the deep end.
Starting point is 00:27:07 What am I going to do? White my butt with this? She stands up. She starts yelling at the guy. She deflects and starts talking about the can you read comment. And he's just sitting there, like, smiling, which I thought was great. Because now I'm like, all right, this dude knows that, like, you don't have to take this seriously. And he knows what he got into.
Starting point is 00:27:20 You know you're completely right. You know what you were doing. and you know what she was doing. And now you realize that you've won and who cares. And you can see, like, again, nobody's helping the situation at all. Julia was helping because Julia's sitting right next to. I'm like, come on, like, this is ridiculous. I do like that we are building a little faction
Starting point is 00:27:37 and you get to see more and more of this episode with Nicole and Adriana, Adriana, who seems to have like no voice. This show is so confusing with the friends of. I'm sorry, I had to just completely stop in the middle of that sentence. There's a lot of friends of. There are so many friends of, and they're all going to the reunion. they're all real castmates. I just think that maybe their budget is for the main cast,
Starting point is 00:27:58 and then they've got the friends of, and they just pay them a little bit less, and you have to give them a different title. I don't know. But they're all just as important to each other. And they're all great. Yeah, and honestly, they all make for really good TV, even when I hate them.
Starting point is 00:28:09 But you get to see Nicole and Adriana showing support. You get Julia, who's just finally happy because she hates so many of these women and she just can't stand them, that she gets to talk to somebody like Nicole, like Adriana, and we saw Adriana inviting Julia to the BBL. It's just so nice to see this faction because now you're going up against Alexia
Starting point is 00:28:28 and making her look like shit. If it's just one person going after her and you get the other people chiming in, you have me and Steele sitting here saying it's intolerable, but that doesn't help you in the moment. You need help in the moment and you're finally seeing these women group up. And I love it because look, if we get a little four-on-four clash, I'm all for that because it's equal fighting and it's equal arguing and we get to actually pick teams.
Starting point is 00:28:51 And it's great. I think that why with a show like this specifically, why I'm ready for that and excited for that, is because there's been other fun stuff happening. Like, it hasn't been all chaos. It hasn't been all drama and just mean shit. We've had, like we talk about, we mention our reprieves. We've had multiple.
Starting point is 00:29:07 We've had a lot of really fun moments with this cast. So now it's like, okay, now when you hit me with the heavy drama, like I'm ready for it because we've built up good relationships. We've seen some shit getting started. Let's dig into it now. Oh, yeah. They did a great job. And just to kind of finish this scene up,
Starting point is 00:29:21 The craziest part to me is after all of this, and I get that you might be a little pissed off because her new man just, like, dragged you in front of everybody. How can you not just say sorry? How are you non-apologetic for what you've caused? You've made this, I can't imagine that that relationship is off to a great start. No, probably not. These are your friends? Like, I knew you were a real housewife, but I have to start digging out my public records
Starting point is 00:29:45 to defend myself because they have my records on their fucking cell phone. Like, Adriana deserves to find love. and if she found that in this man, Terry, like, leave them alone. Why are you budding into this whole thing? All it screams is that you're seeking attention. Either you want to try to be that main alpha on this show and you're trying to, like, knock everybody down a peg so that you stand alone. But you got caught.
Starting point is 00:30:10 You got busted. Your whole plan fell apart. And because he dropped a good one-liner on, you can't even muster up the strength now or later. And that's going to take us in this next scene, the lawyer party. you can't even just fucking say sorry hey my bad like I shouldn't have done that I think that's kind of where we're going
Starting point is 00:30:27 in the direction that we're going in with a lot of these shows and we see it in Potomac to the point that like I'm nauseous about it they're going after husbands they're going after relationships and it's like stop have beef within yourselves you don't have to bring the spouse into it you don't have to make up cheating rumors
Starting point is 00:30:43 you don't have to make up infidelity whatever it's just pointless just keep all the fights between the two of you and don't try to break up nice relationships Like, that's really all we have to do. Do we have to add another rule? That, that, the kids, now we're going to say four. Yeah, we need number four is.
Starting point is 00:30:58 Don't break up nice relationships. Don't break up happy relationships. Period. That's all we need. Just keep it within yourselves. You signed up for, now I guess Terry had to like sign a waiver or whatever. But still, he didn't really sign up for this. He's just trying to have a nice relationship as a divorced man in Miami.
Starting point is 00:31:14 And he's having a good time. You know, Adriana has music videos going on. Maybe he wants to get in the music video. Who knows? We've got to talk to the crazy director about that one. But it is, I guess, getting a little tiring with the attacking of spouses and boyfriends and whatever the hell you might have. It's just like find a new slant. It's annoying.
Starting point is 00:31:32 And like I said, I mean, that takes us directly into the lawyer luncheon, which the premise of just baffles me. I can't imagine like having this many legal questions to the point where I'm going to get my group of friends together because we all have legal questions and ask a lawyer. Are they really legal questions, or are they just asking questions that are pertinent to the season? They're asking questions that are in regards to their storylines to try to make themselves seem like they are right. That's all they're doing. They're saying, it's slander. It's got what the producer said. Like, all right, we've got this lawyer coming in or somebody came up with the idea to do it for Lisa, which, by the way, Lisa didn't actually need that lawyer to come in.
Starting point is 00:32:13 She just needed the distraction of everybody fighting, which I thought was really funny and really nice, actually, because it gets to take her mind. off of it. She doesn't have to be involved in the fighting. She just gets to sit back and watch her friends just completely tear each other apart, which sounds like a pretty fun time. I mean, she clearly needed it, and if it's at the expense of everybody else because they're being idiot, it's like,
Starting point is 00:32:33 great. I mean, that's why we watch the show. Absolutely. Lisa's just a Bravo fan in that moment. Welcome to the club. But you can see the main points of contention are Larsa Nicole, Alexia, Adriana.
Starting point is 00:32:47 Nicole chimes in and asks about slander. and then very quickly, he's like, ask your husband about it. I don't know what that means. Do you know what that means? He's a lawyer, but he's an insurance lawyer. Oh, okay. But insurance is certainly not... No, that is not slander law.
Starting point is 00:33:03 Anything to do with slander. Alexia then goes on to say, well, this lawyer over here, that's not his specialty. That's not what he does. And after Nicole gets through her whole spiel, finally, with Alexia just yelling over her, the lawyer goes, well, I actually deal with that quite a bit. Yeah. Slander and libel. Like I know the difference between the two
Starting point is 00:33:21 and a lot of what we do in our law practice has to do with stuff like that. I mean, obviously the slander in question is Larson's claim that Nicole was hooking up with every doctor at the hospital. This part really pissed me off when this came to light. What actually happened?
Starting point is 00:33:38 I guess her and her husband took a break. Like they were not together for some period of time. They were separated. Yeah. They separated? Yeah. Or I guess no, because they were dating because they just got engaged.
Starting point is 00:33:48 Well, no, no, her ex-husband. Oh. Okay. So she was separated. Yeah. She had a relationship with a resident at her hospital. While she was also a resident. Yes.
Starting point is 00:33:59 A consenting relationship between two adults that has nothing to do with adultery, infidelity, and you're going to use that as your ammunition. And then Marisol's like, I got proof, which is a shady DM from God knows who. But even in the DM, it's like, I think that it was during a separation. and she was with a resident at the hospital. So all you did was say, oh, she dated somebody else that was also a doctor, which I know a lot of doctors, a lot of them are married to doctors. So that makes a lot of fucking sense if you're spending 20 out of 24 hours a day at a goddamn hospital
Starting point is 00:34:35 that you would take interest in another doctor also spending 20 hours a day at a fucking hospital. Yeah, and here's the bone to really pick with Alexia. And there's a couple of things that she said that really just pissed me off. When Julia is talking about her relationship with Martina and how it was kind of scrutinized while she was in Paris, and she just wanted to go and have like a huge hug and a big kiss with Martina in the square in front of everybody because nobody was really approving of her of her marriage, of her relationship when they were talking about the policy that's now going on in Florida, Alexia goes and says, well, Julia, with you wanting to empower
Starting point is 00:35:09 women, I think it's funny that you didn't step up for me when that man the other day put me down with that comment. Now hold on, Alexia, because you're allowed to allow Larsa to say that Nicole slept with every doctor in her hospital implying that she got her position because she slept around. That is way more damning than anything that you could imagine being said to you. I'm sorry, but you're saying that she got her position in her hospital because she slept around. That's terrible for women. That's terrible for women in the workforce. And that's fucking annoying a shit because you can't look yourself in the face and be like, oh, well, this guy can tell me that I can't read, but you can look at Larson and be like, yeah, that's okay that you said that
Starting point is 00:35:51 to Julia. That's cool. Not to mention by using that in comparison to like, oh, you are worried about what's going out in Florida and this and that and you can't stand up for me in that moment, that is not the same fucking thing at all. For the LGBTQ community not being able to say the word gay in Florida is fucking insane. and for you to compare that to her not stick or for you to question her woman empowerment by saying she didn't stand up for you in that moment because she stands up for that stuff like that's
Starting point is 00:36:23 fucking ridiculous that is such a bold stupid claim to make and it just perfectly paints the picture of what alexia has become like everything that she says is just off the rails it has no bearing she's just trying to better herself regardless of what she's saying like i don't even I think she knows what she's saying half the time. It doesn't make any sense. It barely relates to the topic at hand. But to bring it back a little bit, you've got to pull me,
Starting point is 00:36:48 but you got to reel me back in something. Real back in. After all of the talk about what actually happened with this doctor at the hospital, all Larsa can reply with is whatever, whatever, whatever. She knows she's wrong. That's your response? There's just no spine there, really. Like, she really does just say shit, and Nicole's right on the nose.
Starting point is 00:37:08 When Larsa feels uncomfortable, she just says shit and she makes things up and she just runs with it to try to embarrass you in that moment so that she feels less embarrassed herself and then she can get the fuck out of there. So now when you're bringing it back up, especially in front of a lawyer, and you realize that you are completely wrong, you could just say whatever, whatever, whatever, and nothing bad's ever going to happen. Again, I just don't understand the dynamic between everybody because everybody seems to support Nicole and understands that what Larsa said is wrong, but nobody's giving Larsa shit to. directly.
Starting point is 00:37:40 No. Like, no one. Julie is not saying, and I like Julia a lot, and I feel like she does stand by her friends, but she doesn't speak up for anything. Adriana, again, does not really have a voice. Gertie is a friend of Nicole's and Larsa, and she's a businesswoman. But I do like... In that situation, just fucking speak up and be like, Larsa, that's terrible to say.
Starting point is 00:37:59 I agree with you, but I do like that she can play both sides, and she's not playing anybody. She just is a friend to both and doesn't let it cloud her relationship with, yeah. Yeah, but I think it's nice to see somebody that's like, she's not being skeevy about it. No, she's not being skeevy about it. And she just says, Nicole, like, I can't believe you sent that fucking mirror. I was at her house.
Starting point is 00:38:19 Like, that's just honest. And like, I think I'm just so strongly on Nicole's side. Yeah, I think that everybody is. I just want somebody to fucking help her. You know what? I think that the root of it all is honestly just jealousy. I think that she is a beautiful, intelligent, very successful. Like, she's done all these amazing things.
Starting point is 00:38:37 and I think that Alexia is jealous. But do you think that Larsa is getting 40K from feet picks on OnlyFans? I don't know. By the way, you know what? If you're paying 40 or whatever the fuck you might be paying for that, you can probably just watch Bravo because they just showed you what she was putting on her only fans. Oh, that's a really good point. You don't have to pay for the only fans.
Starting point is 00:38:57 They should have flurred it out. Yeah, they should have flurred it out. No free ads, see? I thought that was funny. And a little chuckle for myself. Bravo gave her a free ad for her only feat. people still want to see our feet We've gotten
Starting point is 00:39:08 We continue to get offers Yeah So if you start to get down and out buddy You let me know And offers are not high enough yet Yet But the episode ends We get to see Slimy Lenny
Starting point is 00:39:22 Who It's emotional terrorism How the fuck are you going to go work from home When you're trying to kick Your ex-wife out of the house That you want nothing to do with her But you're going to continuously walk by her she's not the one that tried to end this thing.
Starting point is 00:39:37 You did. And you're just going to force your cameras are there. Of course. Yeah. And then he's trying to like hide behind the wall. Like, fuck you, Lenny. He got a little pissed off when the camera came in. But, and Colleen pointed this out.
Starting point is 00:39:47 Did you notice that his audio was crystal? He was miced up. He was mic. Son of a bitch. And I'm like, oh, well, maybe I was making excuses for him. I'm like, oh, well, maybe there's a camera in there. Not for him. But I was like, oh, maybe there's a camera in there or whatever.
Starting point is 00:39:59 And then when they walk away and they're just like down the hallway, you can hear Lisa very clearly. And you can hear him very clearly. and you can see her, and she's still a good, like, six, seven feet away from him. So he's fucking miced up. He's a scumbag. Can you hear, like, the little, like, just the little dick energy coming out of this man? He's like, he's trying to, like, tell her, like, and you need to find a place to live.
Starting point is 00:40:18 Do you understand me? Do I need to explain it to you? Yeah. Like, no, dumb fuck. Everyone heard what you said. It's not some crazy, unintelligible thought. Like, she needs to find another place to live because you're trying to kick her out of a house after you're divorcing her for some 20-something Instagram model.
Starting point is 00:40:34 Like, yeah, we all. got you. You don't have to mansplain it any hard you, you little bitch. No, I mean, you were right. Little Dick Energy. I mean, look at the fucking house. Like, he wishes he was the president. Why do you think those pillars outside are so big? Yeah, that's the point.
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Starting point is 00:44:00 it probably is so this episode i mean the main points here because the main point that we're going to talk about didn't even happen in this episode it happened outside of the real housewives world which is fucking crazy but before we get there this one's mainly about i guess mea and wendy had a little rendezvous that's a nice way to put it had a little rendezvous when they were on vacation and we're not really sure what happened jazelle keeps saying that they were doing vagina bumping No one ever said vagina bumping except Giselle But she keeps running with it So I think that the story will eventually be
Starting point is 00:44:36 Yeah, they bump vaginas Yeah, I think Giselle finds herself thinking That what she's saying that And it's like, all right, Giselle, stop saying that Just stop it It's not weird me out funny But I think that the funniest part of it Is that Mia's like
Starting point is 00:44:50 Oh, well now I know why it was so tense between us And why she didn't like me so much It was just sexual tension She wanted to get that cookie Are you fine? Come on, dude Like, come on. You cannot be that far up your own ass to actually think that that's the reason. She is. She definitely is.
Starting point is 00:45:06 What? Like, that was crazy to hear that. Like, you really think that there was so much tension because she wanted to hook up with you. Come on. I don't know. Look, not that I, like, wanted to see any of it go down, but what is with this, like, you're in Mexico on a trip for the show that you're on? Right. And they don't show, like, any footage of them hanging out afterwards.
Starting point is 00:45:29 No, it was all just when they were arguing and stuff. Like, I want to see them partying. I want to see them, like, having fun and going. Like, they would get, it kind of pisses me all because all you get is, like, clips of the club. Like, just stick a camera in the club. Yeah. Like, just, like, let us watch for a little bit more. And I know that, like, sometimes they mislead you and they're like, oh, it looks
Starting point is 00:45:45 like they were in the club for a long time. It's like, no, they were only there for, like, 20 minutes. But give us a little bit more. I mean, they're there to party. And all you're showing is, and some of it's important. Yeah. But, like, do I need to see them fight over the same thing 15 times in a row? No. Show me a little bit more of the partying and then making up, not just pictures of it the next day or someone's cell phone when you could easily just get some cameras in there.
Starting point is 00:46:06 I want to watch them playing like flip cup in a bar or like singing karaoke or like not just being mean and pissed off all the time. Yeah, I want to see them like actually be friends and have fun with each other because it sounds like that's what happens. I mean, you hear Chris and Candace start talking about it and Candace is like, I don't know, my last night, I woke up in the shower and, you know, that was pretty impressive. Chris is like, yeah, that is pretty impressive. I think a friend of ours actually woke up in a shower recently. Oh, yeah, yeah, he definitely did. True story. Yeah, that's a true story.
Starting point is 00:46:39 But, yeah, I agree. I do want to see a lot more of the fun stuff. And, yeah, this could be a purposely meaningless episode because there wasn't really a lot going on aside from that. And there was a lot going on outside of that. Let's just do it. Let's just tear that bandaid off and jump into the real news and the real highlight of Potomac this week.
Starting point is 00:46:59 And it was from an episode of reasonably shady. And we obviously last week got Karen saying that there were some rumors about Juan Dixon's quote-unquote girlfriend in Georgetown. 100% confirmed that this actually happened.
Starting point is 00:47:15 So this calls into question and also makes so many things way more apparent. We questioned last week and a lot of our listeners questioned last week, did Juan's reactions seem suspicious? And we both Yeah, it really did. It seemed like a weird way to react to this whole thing.
Starting point is 00:47:30 But now I think it's now knowing this and knowing that Robin knew about it, it seems like his reactions were for the cameras. They were. Because she was trying to do it too. She was like, yeah, they said you have like a girlfriend. Like if you rewatch it now, it's like, wow, clearly she's like acting and not doing a good job here. And that is easy for us to say in hindsight, but yeah. In hindsight for sure.
Starting point is 00:47:52 But we'll get shit for it, but yeah. But whatever. I mean, it's just there's so many things. wrong with this and we're going to unpack it all. The fact that first and foremost, the most obvious thing here, why was this not discussed during the season? Why was this held off to until now? And then you're going to charge people behind a paywall. You got to join their Patreon to hear the full story. Like, first of all, anyone that does that's an idiot because you don't need to go and listen to her explain it away. You now know what happened. You're not going to get the
Starting point is 00:48:22 full truth. It's the same thing as the Jen Chow bullshit. And all you really need is one person to go in, by the way, one person can go in and pay for it, and then they will go spill the beans everywhere on Twitter. I think that this is just how this works. The Bravo Bottoms actually bit the bullet and signed up for the Dear Jen Shaw thing. I saw them post that they were going to subscribe to it. We'll have to reach out to the boys.
Starting point is 00:48:41 Yeah, we'll reach out of the boys and see what they dug up there. But back to the drama in Potomac, it's just the whole reason that you're on this show is to show the drama in your life, right? And then for her on the podcast to then say, well, I was waiting for it to come out. Like, I was ready to defend myself. I was ready for somebody to bring it up. But nobody ever did.
Starting point is 00:49:02 Nobody ever did. Blah, blah, blah. That's bullshit. Yeah. Because in that moment when it was pretty much brought up, you did not address anything. You deflected and did a really bad acting job. And Juan screamed at you over the phone. Not only that, but from what I've heard, she's still doing a really bad deflecting job.
Starting point is 00:49:17 She really is. She's saying that, like, oh, maybe they weren't actually, like, sexually active. some bullshit and he was she the the woman was on a trip they needed wand to fill out her hotel itinerary yeah he didn't stay like no when you have somebody else fill out your hotel itinerary you still need your name on it it wouldn't be under wand like like it just doesn't make it it's such bullshit i don't know what she's trying to do at this point especially now that she's charging for it i hope this doesn't become a thing where heather's saying buy my fucking book and then doesn't give you an answer for her black eye jen shaw's going to say
Starting point is 00:49:53 buy my Patreon or whatever go to jail and you're never actually going to get the true story because she's just going to lie her ass off now we've got to do this and Robin's going to deflect the whole situation like I just don't understand like what's next I don't know but it we should put bets on what's next honestly what's I don't know what's next
Starting point is 00:50:09 dude and I'd be another scandal and we're not going to get shit probably but it's just for this to come out now like there needs to be repercussions for this like you can't hold on to shit and then charge people so that you're making bank off of it It doesn't make any sense.
Starting point is 00:50:24 Like, you're literally overstepping Bravo. You're stepping on their toes and showing... Do you think Bravo has to give the okay for this? I think that Bravo's going to be pissed. I think Andy's going to be pissed. Like, you can't then charge for this shit. If you held on to it, I don't think they will get a cut unless this is all part of their plan.
Starting point is 00:50:41 But it brings me to probably what pissed me off the most. And it's been a running theme amongst franchises. Like, the spouses are under attack this year. It's not just dudes. like people went after Martina and Julia's relationship, like people are just going after spouses. And I think that it's fucking crazy, crazy, that Giselle knew about this the entire season.
Starting point is 00:51:03 Giselle knew about this the whole time. She knew that somebody was actually being fucking shady, gross, cheating, stepping out. And you're going to try to throw Chris... Unless Robin gave him the okay. Do we even know that? They could have an open relationship and they're just like not proud to say it.
Starting point is 00:51:19 I don't know. I don't think so. Now they're getting married or they're, already got married. They already got married. He's cheated on you twice, but whatever. Is it reasonable or is it shady? That's like the fifth time you've used that.
Starting point is 00:51:32 I'm going to put it on the soundboard over here and just click that. You get fucking sued. I just don't get how you can sit there in a glass house and throw stones at somebody to try to derail from the main point. Clearly everything that's been going on this season has been trying to take the attention off of her girl, Robin, and Giselle's been pointing fingers elsewhere. It's horseshit and it almost ruined somebody else's life, right? Like that's something that you can't really come back from and she's throwing around accusations.
Starting point is 00:52:01 She's doing this. She's doing that. Meanwhile, she's sitting on one that's actually real. That's true just because her girl Robin, she doesn't want to throw her under the bus. But fuck that. If that's the case, just bite your tongue. Don't drag other people into it. Yeah, we're not telling you that you have to spill the beans and you can still get away with trying to bring Chris down.
Starting point is 00:52:18 We're just saying just don't say shit about Chris. Don't talk about it. Don't try to do anything else. Just sit on your lie and just go have a good season. Like, we don't need everything. It's annoying. No, and it's just, like, it's par for the course, honestly, and it's not even surprising. Like, I was surprised initially when I heard that he actually cheated because it has been the running theme that, like, oh, he's stepping out on you.
Starting point is 00:52:41 Oh, she's stepping out on you. Like, everyone's cheating on everybody. So I was kind of like, we've heard this before, so we're really doing this again. It goes to that scene with Chris, and he's even like, oh, we're just. going to throw another husband out of the bus. But it turns out Karen's on the up and up. And this brings a lot of things into question with Karen. Because we've been like, you know, she's going off the rails a little bit.
Starting point is 00:53:02 She's getting a little too comfortable, a little too big for her britches. 100% fact. She dropped a 100% fact. And we thought she was being nuts. So maybe Karen has been truthful the whole time. It calls into question the Cherie stuff. Oh, God, the Cherie stuff. Everything.
Starting point is 00:53:20 Everything. Everything is not a question. She's just getting drunk at the strip pub eating lobster and steak. I just yelling the things that Karen has done in her life. And then everyone's like, when was this? Was this recently? No, this was years ago. Okay. Do you believe that Karen banged a dude in a bathroom at a party?
Starting point is 00:53:35 I don't think it's either here nor there. I don't think so either. But those are some like, I think, I think what Cherise is referring to was probably fucking 30 years ago. But it's like, it's. Do I care? Not really. Slander.
Starting point is 00:53:47 Should we go back to the lawyer party? Yeah, unless she wrote. Little slanderous. Maybe it's libel. Wrote it down on a napkin while she was eating some fucking steak and lobster. Can we just please talk about the steak and lobster at the strip club? It's disgusting. Right?
Starting point is 00:54:02 You couldn't pay me to eat food at a strip club. Oh, my God. The Mia is talking about how she worked at an entertainment place that served food and she ate steak and lobster all the time. It's disgusting. Like, I just eating anything, I can't imagine eating anything at a strip club. And I'm not a strip club guy, but I just can't. imagine eating anything there, let alone lobster and steak. Look, I've never been to one, so I can't really comment.
Starting point is 00:54:26 Oh, there you go. It's your wife listening? No, but jokes aside, like, you couldn't pay me to eat any kind of food at a strip club. It's just, like, there's just no way. It's not hygienic. I can't do it. But, like, other than that, not that much else happened. We had Cherise asking about Michael Darby and Candace dropped a great one-liner.
Starting point is 00:54:48 If someone was going to pay me to leave Gollum, give me half of their money, I'd be on that train immediately. She is so funny. She's had a great season. I don't care how mean she is. She is so funny. Well, even when she's mean, she's fucking fun. I know. Like, she's got the best clapbacks in the game, period.
Starting point is 00:55:04 Yeah. No one else. They really don't because they're so witty and they're just on and they're a little bit too mean, which makes them even better. Yeah, I know. But the only thing that I want to talk about, and then we can move on to. the reunion the end of this episode when blue-eyed man comes back up they're calling into question the blue-eyed man and the picture of karen with allegedly karen with some dude did you hear what mea said no she said well gee told me that when you get older if you
Starting point is 00:55:37 really love your wife then you give them a pass how do you feel about that let's say here let me paint a picture okay you and you and call are getting made no no no i'm going to paint a picture I'm going to paint a picture. All right. So you and Collar get married soon. It is, you are 80. How many years younger is she, than you? Two and a half.
Starting point is 00:55:57 Okay, so she's 77 and a half. You're 80 years old. I'll give you 90. All right, so let's make this a little bit like like. You think I'm making it's 90? No, I don't, but I didn't want to be the one to be like, oh, you're 80. You're at the end of your life. So you're 90.
Starting point is 00:56:12 She's 87 and a half. Okay. You are completely, I mean, you're still mentally there, but you can't really move around much. You're just kind of a lounge around kind of guy. She's still, you know, active. She's still moving around. She still gets out of the house. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:28 She meets, like, a cute tennis instructor. The tennis instructor maybe takes a liking to her. She comes home and says, Sean, I love you so much. You're my everything. We've had a wonderful life together. I'm so thankful for all the times we've had together. Uh-huh. I got a little more gas left in the tank, and I want to go.
Starting point is 00:56:45 and explore that with this nice young gentleman. You as 90-year-old shooter, probably angrily sitting in a chair yelling for some reason. What's your response? I don't know. The scene itself made, it didn't make me feel weird. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:57:03 It's just any time that me it talks about stuff like that. It bothers me. But I didn't really get it. Yeah, I'm deflecting. I don't know. Honestly, I really don't. Yeah, I guess, like, if she's still moving around and running around, look, I don't think that painting a picture of an 87-year-old woman having sex
Starting point is 00:57:23 is, like, a great scene for us to do right now. But if she wants to go out on dates with other men, and I can't do that, yeah. You know what? I love her enough. She wants to go live her life if I'm just stuck in, like, some rocking chair, which I imagine on the porch, probably with a shotgun yelling at the kids in the neighborhood. Yeah, I see that. Yeah, you know.
Starting point is 00:57:39 But still somehow, like, basketball next to go birds. She still somehow can shoot. Yeah, no, I think that's nice. I think that's a nice thing you can do. Now, do you think Ray actually, or do you think G actually said that to Mia, and do you think that Ray should allow that for Karen? I think G definitely said that to Mia.
Starting point is 00:57:59 Or rather, Mia said that G. And he agreed. And then he agreed. Yeah, I think that makes way more sense. I don't see Ray doing that for Karen. I don't either. I think that I heard somebody dropped that he hired, like, a private investigator
Starting point is 00:58:13 I didn't know that And that was like relatively recent It wasn't that long ago So clearly he gives a shit And like you know I don't think that he would agree To that barred The analogy that Mia made was If you can't go upstairs
Starting point is 00:58:25 And how are you going to go upstairs on your woman or something? It was just Mea just fucking bothers me She thinks she's saying something witty and fun And it's just annoying Gross usually but Where were we? You're apparently a very loving
Starting point is 00:58:39 I've paid you into a mental box Yeah, I'm in a last case of emotion. Yep. Mission accomplished. But that takes us to the grand finale. We had episode number two and the final episode of, thank God, the Salt Lake Reunion. Pretty much a snooze fest. It wasn't very entertaining.
Starting point is 00:59:03 I think that the segment of the husbands was one of the worst segments in Bravo history. What a waste of time. It really was. It was such filler. I guess they have to do multiple reunion episodes at this point. They don't have to. You can just do one. Unless it's like, you should take a vote.
Starting point is 00:59:21 Put it out to like Twitter and be like, hey, how many do you want for this season? And let the fans choose because this one needed one and done. I got so scared. Somebody commented on one of our videos and said, I can't believe we have three reunion episodes of this. And I had originally thought that it was only two. And then I got really scared towards the end of this one when there was like three minutes left. And he's like, and we'll be right back. And I'm like, fuck me.
Starting point is 00:59:43 No. We have another one. I will yeat myself somewhere. But yeat back. Yeah, yeat's back. Yeat myself off a nearby bridge. No, the third episode was slated to be the one-on-one with Jed. That's why it was slated for three.
Starting point is 00:59:58 Yeah, so that was, that's why that got axed. What a cluster fuck that way. Yeah, what a shit show. Oh, damn it. Look, let me just say one thing about Andy. Okay. And this is, what, our third reunion? Yes.
Starting point is 01:00:10 I think I just threw it. number out there but yeah third reunion can you clearly tell who he likes and who he doesn't like on the cast yeah pretty much it is fucking annoying it's so apparent and it's kind of annoying and like heather had one of the worst seasons ever yeah it was awful he loves heather he jokes to her he makes fun of other castmates and then looks at heather and laughs it's ridiculous he the way he interacts with whitney is like terrible like she's talking about like childhood trauma and whatever and he's just like one word answering her and like moving on and whatever and he goes to heather and he talks about her stupid fucking black eye and then like
Starting point is 01:00:47 whatever talks about how she is Mormon guilt for drinking and Andy feels really bad and then you see somebody make a comment about Jenshaw going to prison he's like oh oh no not by baby Jenshaw's like shut the fuck up dude like you should be you're like the boss of all these employees if you will not like the boss he is the fucking boss they're all your employees they all make you money. How about you treat them all equally, except for, you know, the one that's going to prison. This one over here who's spewing some dumb bullshit about her black eye for like 17 fucking episodes. Like, it just makes absolutely no sense. He plays favorites so much. I will say. It hinders the reunion episodes.
Starting point is 01:01:24 Sorry to cut you. I didn't mean to cut you off. No, it's fine. Yeah. I will say, I thought that the second half of the episode was good. I thought he had a good second half because he went after Meredith. He did go after Meredith, which I was surprised that he didn't go after Heather though he didn't go after Meredith but here's the thing and he didn't really engage with Whitney at all no and that that bugged me the Heather thing not so much because if you're reading it from like we as viewers are obviously going to dive deeper into it and we've been watching all these episodes and reading all the comments and blah blah blah and we have very strong opinions about it if you're looking at it from like a friendship standpoint like if you are
Starting point is 01:01:59 friends with this person she seems like she's emotionally going through it at least if you're close to her right like from the outside of the looking in we have different takes but maybe he felt like you know he couldn't go in too hard because she seemed extremely shaky at least for me watching like but it wasn't even just that it was also just the heather uh it was also just the heather Whitney relationship yeah yeah no no no he was letting Heather just talk her fucking ass off he literally cut off he literally cut off Whitney like two or three times in a row yeah and like that but i do agree the the merit of thing was much better because I even said it like audibly and he's on a hot street yeah and there was one moment
Starting point is 01:02:39 where Lisa had sent something it was kind of a back and forth between Meredith and Lisa and I forget exactly what the question was but Lisa had yelled back oh it was something about Jen Lisa had yelled that question over like are you afraid of Jen and you could hear it but Andy cut her off and then re-asked the question from him and it made a lot of sense because if Lisa had asked that Meredith would have been like no Lisa like I'm not afraid of Jen why don't you just stop but instead Andy Great Meredith impression. I was trying to do the frown thing because she always does like her mouth
Starting point is 01:03:08 is always down like this and she talks like Andy will interject and ask a question and it just makes a lot more sense when Andy does it because you actually have to answer that question so I'll give him props there
Starting point is 01:03:20 it was just kind of annoying and I think I'm just getting tired to him hosting reunions bringing Nikki Monash back No I mean I see what you're saying I think that in the grand scheme of reunions that we've watched with them this was his best one
Starting point is 01:03:32 Yeah, probably. But the funny thing about that side of the room, like those two couches, those two can't get their shit straight. And this episode just further proved Jen's got something on them. It's just hammered it home because they talk in circles. They don't make any sense. They're not addressing what's been presented to them. The one time that Lisa chimes in, Meredith's like, no, oh my God, like really blah, blah, blah.
Starting point is 01:03:59 She just asked you a question. Yep. And all you do is deflect because. it's Lisa you already addressed it like Lisa asked a question you have like like why are you feeling any different because she's being sentenced versus being found guilty I don't know like you didn't I just need to see how many years she gets before I make my decision on it like why she's going to jail like even Andy said it he's like we know she's going to jail for multiple years yeah everybody and they're like yeah she is okay so let's hear what you have to say about
Starting point is 01:04:25 that's it and like I'm glad he kept like hammering at home like dude what do you mean because and you didn't see last season but last season but last season, she legit. So the episode that Jen gets charged, or they go and, like, try to find her on their spinner van. They get to Vail. Oh, wow, you have a Vail sweatshirt on. Hell yeah. Sick, Symbolism, dude. Would you go there once? Like, what the... Yeah, I did. Went there once. Didn't get arrested, Jen. Hey, nice. But if you go back to that episode, she's legit sitting in this giant bathtub, having a bubble bath at, like, noon, while all the other women are arriving to the house. And she's, like, having a glass of champagne clearly, quite clearly gloating.
Starting point is 01:05:05 And when Lisa calls her out on the gloating, she's like, no, I wasn't gloating. It's like, go back and watch the chape. Let's check the film. Because, yes, you were. You talk shit about Jen literally the entire season. You were anti-Gen. And they did have, like, two or three flashbacks with Mary Cosby. Now that I'm thinking about it.
Starting point is 01:05:23 Yeah. She was in there a little bit. Yeah. So maybe, see, they're trying to put her back into film. I know what they're doing. Yep. Uh-huh. I see what you're doing, bravo.
Starting point is 01:05:30 For her to now take this stance that's completely on the other side. And she says it's because she got very credible information that Jen actually did try to take her own life. Okay. We're going to tread lightly, obviously. If that is true, then I do understand that she has her own personal experience with that. So she wanted to put all the other bullshit aside and step in for this woman and be on her team, whatever. but for you to go from being so against her if she was guilty if all of this was true being completely out on her you can't be friends with her to then flip-flop and have no real
Starting point is 01:06:10 opinion about a period you can still feel for her and help her through like a traumatic time and a traumatic event and relate to her you can put your feelings aside there is a middle ground there is a middle ground but for you to completely do a 180 and say one of the most outrageous sentences I've ever fucking heard I always root for the underdog. The underdog here is the fucking victims, dude. It's not Jen Shaw. She's not
Starting point is 01:06:32 the underdog. She was the overdog and she stepped too far and fucked herself over. Like, overdog. Because you cannot sit there and say, I'm rooting for the underdog. You're really rooting for this woman? How? Let her go and serve her time. And when she gets out and pays her debt to society and pays all those people back, then you can root for her. Then you can say, hey, I hope
Starting point is 01:06:52 you get back up on your feet someday because you're in a $15 million hole. But until that happens, you're not rooting for the underdog. You're sending the underdog to prison. Yeah. And I'm so glad this is the last time that I have to rent to Brach and Chach. Wasn't that a cartoon overdog? Wonderdog. Wonderdog.
Starting point is 01:07:11 Maybe I'm thinking of the underpants. Captain underpants? Captain underpants. I mean, I'm merging two together. And I tend to do that. Captain Underdog. Captain Underdog. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:07:19 And did you notice who was very, very, very quiet about sent. potentially sending Jen Shaw money. And I think Heather slipped up when she said, yeah, I didn't send her any money when she was asking for money. She said, I couldn't do that to my family. What do you, what does that mean? I don't know. But she did say there were some people on this couch that did send money. And then Meredith had a face.
Starting point is 01:07:40 And then she goes, no, no, I meant Angie Harrington. Oh, you think that. And then Meredith didn't clarify that she did not send money. Interesting. So I do wonder if Heather fucked up once again. She didn't get the memo on. on the special K, and now she didn't get the memo on this. But isn't it very odd?
Starting point is 01:07:58 And I do like that Whitney and Lisa on the other end completely understood that right away, that Chris and Angie Harrington sent money to Jen, and then all of a sudden the shot exposed thing went away. Oh, yeah. Guilty, whatever, guilty conscience on Chris Harrington, the fat elf on a shelf husband, sending money to Jen, and then magically, like, everything goes away and everything's forgiven. What do you think about Sharif? Do you, because I...
Starting point is 01:08:24 I was actually surprised they brought it up on the reunion. So am I. I'm surprised that they made that public like that. I wonder if he's going to lose this job. I mean, we don't like to talk about stuff like that, but, I mean, it's very public. It's super public. Very damning.
Starting point is 01:08:39 Look, I think that it's obviously a touchy subject, right? Like, it's something that I don't even really want to speculate on on you. because I don't know. I mean, I do think that obviously it would be crazy to think that he knew nothing about it. I think that it's hard to say that he wasn't at least inquisitive
Starting point is 01:08:57 as to where all this money was coming from, especially him being an attorney as far as how much he knew. And I'm curious how much was brought to light that maybe, here's what I think. All right, it just clicked. If he did not know, okay, or if he had inklings, maybe,
Starting point is 01:09:14 I think reading through all the court files, maybe at some point he went, fuck, that implicates me. Yeah. And went to her and was like, look, not only is this going to cost us money that we don't have, this is damning. Yeah. We got the boys. Like, we need to talk about this. Like, that would make sense to me.
Starting point is 01:09:31 If that did happen, I'm not saying it did or not. I think that's probably what the plea deal was, and that's why she flipped. Maybe. And we could speculate on this for days, but that makes a lot of sense where it really comes down to, do you want your children to grow up with both of their parents in prison? I mean, obviously, Sharif would take a lighter sentence. But even if he's gone for a year, what are you going to do? You're going to have your kids go live with somebody else.
Starting point is 01:09:53 Like, no. So here, we'll give you six and a half years instead of, you know, four and a half. But Sharif gets to stay out of it. Yeah. That could make sense. It could make sense. And I think that's the best way to put it. You don't know what the fuck happened.
Starting point is 01:10:07 I'm not saying one way or the other. I'm saying if that did happen, that's... I think we're going to have to take the bar. I'm not taking the bar. Oh, so we can actually be... Yeah. So then when people comment, we can be like, fuck you. All right.
Starting point is 01:10:19 Well, I'll... You go past the bar and then you can talk to me. I will speculate on one thing. Okay. I will speculate on one thing. And again, this is purely speculation. This holds no weight whatsoever. Here's what I think with the left couch, all right, with Meredith and Heather.
Starting point is 01:10:35 Because all I got to see tonight was both of them not being able to answer questions, going with the I don't remember defense or the I don't know defense or the I never said that, even though we know they said that. I think that Jen gave them money. And I think that that money was put into their businesses in some way, shape, or form. And I think that they are aware that they accepted stolen funds. I don't think they knew at the time. I think that they also both seemed aware that some sketchy shit was going on.
Starting point is 01:11:06 So I think that they turned a blind eye to what was happening. And I think that they possibly got a handout. They use that money into their businesses. And if they slip up or if they throw Jen under the bus, Jen's got that ammo. She's sitting waiting to go to prison. Maybe she has a bad day, wants to throw that out there in the world, and fuck them both over.
Starting point is 01:11:27 Honestly, I feel like Jen would probably do that immediately anyway. I don't put anything past her. She robbed millions from elderly people. It's horrible. I can see her being like, I'm not the only one going down. I gave these two money. Yeah. So I think that would make the most sense.
Starting point is 01:11:41 Time to speculate. Again, this is the speculation station. I got my tinfoil hat on. Not saying it did or did not happen. I'm just saying that would make sense. I would make a lot of sense. Certainly would. That takes us to the question portion from Coco Nuzzo.
Starting point is 01:12:02 Is Angie H's money to Jen a way to come back as a housewife or to forgive Chris? Go birds. That's actually on there. That is actually on there? Yeah. Okay, cool. I think it's just forgive Chris. I think it's, like I said,
Starting point is 01:12:14 I think it's a guilty conscience on Chris's part because Heather made a point to say Chris like three or four times. So I think he gave the money. He felt bad about the shot exposed, even though he used it to make fun of Lisa, but whatever, it's fucking annoying. Yeah, so the latter.
Starting point is 01:12:28 I agree. From Carla Carlita, do you think Robin should be fired for her Patreon fiasco? It depends if Bravo gets a cut or if Bravo okayed it, I guess. I don't know. Hopefully Bravo didn't okay
Starting point is 01:12:43 because I don't want Like I said I don't want to go down that path I can't imagine they did That would make no sense I don't think it's a fireable offense I just think it's like It definitely warrants a warning
Starting point is 01:12:51 of some kind Now Potomac does have too many housewives So I don't know Between that It would break up the green-eyed bandits Which probably wouldn't be a bad thing It'd be interesting to see Giselle Without a partner in crime
Starting point is 01:13:05 I think that between that and the case that Juan Dixon is named in, I think between those two things, they might step back, whether it's of their own free will or maybe Bravo asks them to step away for at least a season. That's what I think. Yeah, I can see that.
Starting point is 01:13:23 From not Courtney stage, who do you think would win in a fight the Jersey husbands or the Salt Lake City husbands? Well, the Salt Lake City husbands are made of metal, and metal is typically very hard to break down. Yeah, because they are robots. So I don't think... Although Justin's not.
Starting point is 01:13:40 No, Justin's not a robot. Justin, I like Justin. I like Justin. But I... Jolly dude. First of all, the Jersey husbands are from the Northeast, so they can definitely throw hands. Second,
Starting point is 01:13:52 I think it would be a fair fight. Robot versus a bunch of Jersey meatheads. I think that that's a fair fight. I think that comes on after Celebrity Death Match on MTV. Jersey versus Salt Lake. That's him. Ah, from Clelly M. Makes a very good point. Has Meredith ever been anything but monotone?
Starting point is 01:14:15 About anything? No, that's, you can go back to minute 54 to hear my Meredith impression. Very monotone. From Rebecca Tad, if you could watch the Super Bowl with any housewife, who would you pick? Go birds. Hashtag Go Birds on that one. Fuck. That's a tough one.
Starting point is 01:14:35 because you've got to pick somebody who's not going to take away from the game be annoying. I'm going to say Garsell. She just posted the Go Birds thing last week. Ah, good point. Good point. You're going to pick somebody different.
Starting point is 01:14:47 You can't piggyback. All right, settle down. Piggy back. I got it. I'm going to go with either Crystal. I'm going to go with Crystal because Crystal's talked some shit to us this year about football.
Starting point is 01:15:02 Yeah, she's going to go with Crystal. All right. Because her team's not even in the Super Bowl. They didn't make the playoffs. Nope. And they don't even have a first round pick. Sucks. And for our last question of evening from Charnick 1.
Starting point is 01:15:15 Do you think Ashley and Giselle used Crispy as a distraction to avoid one scandal? Yeah, we did. And I did see a couple of reports, and by reports I just mean tweets, that it looks like people, it looks like somebody caught them, them being uh jazelle robin and ashley and then karen kind of tagging along uh they went out to lunch and supposedly they've been caught before making their storylines for the season before the season starts so that's what they think was going on there was the takedown of chris and then you know kind of going after various other people just to try to deflect away from the whole wand thing but who the hell knows honestly be a fly on that wall yeah seriously but um but that's all we got
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