Bros & Shows - Meredith Always Roots for the Underdog (RHOSLCs07REUNIONPT2, RHOMs05ep11, RHOPs07ep16)
Episode Date: February 3, 2023We got Part 2 of the RHOSLC Reunion and boy are we glad this seasons over. We kick things off with RHOM and Alexia has it out for Nicole. The ladies also consult a lawyer to sort out some of their dis...agreements... In Potomac, their was some alleged "vagina bumping"(- Gizelle) going on between Mia and Dr. Wendy. However the bigger news out of Potomac this week was the confirmation from Robyn of Juan's infidelity. Thats all we know though since we didn't sign up for Reasonably Shady's patreon... Then it's back to the reunion to finally put an end to this season of Salt Lake. Whitney and Heather are still on the outs and for whatever reason Heather and Meredith continue to stand by Jen Shah... This episode is brought to you by BetterHelp. Give online therapy a try at betterhelp.com/bravbros and get on your way to being your best self. This episode is sponsored by Care/Of. To receive 50% off your first order of vitamins and other health products go to takecareof.com and enter code bravbros50 Time Stamp: RHOM (20:10) RHOP (42:43) RHOSLC (57:50) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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your favorite podcast from the bros for everybody for whoever wants to listen i am your co-host
steel russell joined as always by the one the only skeets scoots m'goots what's up dude uh highly emotional
week highly emotional week and not for the reason that you think oh really that last of us episode
oh my god look this is we we talk about no free ads this one deserves a free ad i don't give a shit
great show go watch at last of us on hbill third episode nick offerman ron swanson it has
emotionally abused me all week i texted our video game group yes we have a video game group shout
out to the dads who yeah we're nerds um but i texted you guys like immediately after it ended
and i was afraid i was going to give up spoilers but i was like this is one of the greatest
episodes of TV, I think I've ever
watched. It was so unexpected.
It was so emotional. Nick Offerman
was incredible. I think
the, he acted alongside. I think it's
Murray Bartlett, I believe, is his name.
I think so, yeah. It's the guy from season one.
Manager from White Lotus, yeah. And
the love story between the two
of them was so beautiful and just
like, I told Dev, I was like, look,
I know you don't like zombie shows.
I was like, we have to watch this episode because
it's remarkable. Like, just for what it was.
It's a standalone. And honestly, it was
It was just so beautifully well done.
And obviously, look, I mean, when emotions are running high after the Eagles make the Super Bowl,
whoop, we're not going to harp on it because we expect it to be here.
So fuck it.
And you know what?
There was, and we don't even have to get to the Rosenthorne.
There was somebody out there that was like, I don't tune into your fucking podcast to listen about the Eagles.
I went to an Eagles game and I was at the spectrum.
Like, shut the fuck up.
Shut up.
We have personalities.
I'm sorry that we're not fucking Bravo robots that are sitting here like, oh, well, let's just talk about it.
no we have lives outside of bravo other people enjoy it you don't sit your sad ass down maybe
go watch the last of us and cry a little bit like we did all right anyway motions running high
i tweeted it out and i said we're this the next couple episodes are going to be unstable are you
okay no that's like feeling great that that sounded like a me rant oh yeah no i'm good i'm
dumped it a little bit fired up but yeah no feeling great you know i'm just expecting a little
super bowl we got a week off so i would like
like to say it's going to be like a little roller coaster that's going to come back down and then go
back up, but it's probably just going to ride high for the next week. So mind your business.
Yeah, no, I'm right there with you. I took a much different approach, probably like the complete
opposite end of the spectrum here. So I worked out today, then I went to do a little, I've been doing
meditation a lot lately. I've been trying to get back into it because it helps my brain kind of like
settle down. Yeah. I'm in the sauna. We have a sauna at the gym now. It's amazing. And when no one else is
using it like the trainers you can just hop in whatever so i'm sitting in the sauna doing like
a little 20 minute meditation and it was like about getting in touch with like your surroundings
and like being present all that stuff at the end was like and now like while you're calm in
your meditative state ask the universe for something that you need support in and i shit you not
organically it just popped into my brain birds need to win the super bowl need the birds to win the
super bowl and i got out of the the sauna i was like wow that was that was genuine that just like came from
the heart like that's where my soul focus is right now is like i don't care about anything else at the
moment i need the birds to win the bowl and all will be well everything will be great everything will be
great and look i mean like i said i tweeted it out that we were going to be unstable for the next
couple of weeks uh we got a lot of support you know somebody actually said go with god go birds
who hell yeah i will let's get to like the rose and thorne kind of i'm going to kind of make it
a broad one but I think for my like overall rows was the overwhelming support from non-football
fans that they were like I don't even watch football but because of you guys I'm now watching
the Eagles and I am rooting for them go birds and they're all saying go birds and actually I will
read one because it like kind of culminated in one of the best messages we've received
simply because of who it's from okay okay so I get
a message, and I'm like, you know, I try to get to as many as I can.
And this one stood out because the last name is McInerney.
Oh, okay.
Yeah.
So that's my wife's last name.
There you go.
So I was like, oh, wow, McInerney.
I was like, I thought it might be like a cousin or something like that.
So, and I had to ask her how to pronounce her name because she's from Dublin, Ireland, and moved to Vancouver.
We're all over the world.
Yeah.
And she, her name is Sive, like five, but with an S.
because it's spelled S-A-D-H-B-H.
Okay.
Yeah, and I can't pronounce, like, six months to process that one, but all right.
I can't pronounce, like, normal people's Instagram handle, so, like, I had no shot.
So she helped me out.
It's from Sive McInerney, my boyfriend and I are Irish and living in Canada, but we started watching NFL.
After listening to the podcast, I told him this is now an Eagles house, and he has no choice, go birds.
Fuck yeah.
And that's the right attitude.
All right, if he doesn't want to be a birds fan, you tell him he is a bird's fan.
you tell him he is a birds fan. He doesn't have a choice.
All right. We bleed green, man. We bleed green. And that takes me to all of my thorns,
which is the 49ers fans of the world. And I will read his name because genuinely I did
appreciate the shit talking. And this person's Instagram profile picture is legit an arm
with all of the World Series that the Giants have won tattooed on the arm. So like it's a
real fan. No, but I, it's, it's not a fair weather 49ers fan. We got a lot of, we had a lot of
California people chiming in like, uh, boo. And I'm like, you don't even, there's no way that
you give a shit about this game. Yeah. And so, like I said, profile picture is all of the
World Series, all right. And he started talking shit to us way before the game started. Like,
he sent me a picture of the lighthouse in San Francisco, like lit up with the 49ers logo on it and
like, all this other. So, really help you. After we won, I didn't say shit to him. And I
said, like, once we win, I'm going to come back
and I'm talking all the shit. I didn't say a word.
I didn't have to. The game spoke for itself.
They scored seven points. What a joke.
This game was ruined by Cheaty Eagles
first score. Bullshit refs, dirty plays.
Go Bengals. Not only that,
but on the picture.
Because he wanted Joe Burrow
to win after they, like, he was now
putting his faith in another team, I guess.
He lost twice? Yeah, he's Ofer.
I'm an idiot. Yeah, Tim, you're Ofer, buddy.
So you don't get to talk shit anymore.
But we did tie it up, like, you know, he was nice at the end of the exchange,
but it just made me laugh because on our stories, he kept commenting because we were both
at the Conjie Corner, like drunken slobs, like just throwing like Philly insults that
everyone always uses at us, like scumbags, dirtbags, all that shit.
But yeah, Tim, Niners stink, birds rule, go birds.
Oh my God, that's so funny.
Yeah, no, I mean, going back on, how does that?
Did you say that girl's name?
Sive.
Sive.
All right.
Going back on Sive's comment.
You could say that we have influenced her and her boyfriend to become Eagles fans, right?
You might be able to say that.
I feel like that's the appropriate word.
You know what?
Not for this person, all right?
Because I took a page out of your book and I went through our reviews.
And look, I mean, we have a lot of high reviews.
A lot of people love us.
But the one stars are, I don't even care.
They're just funny.
They're just ridiculous.
They're usually really funny.
This is one that I miss.
The title of this review is not influenced.
I've seen this.
I'm so glad you're reading it.
Yep.
They take credit.
Create it.
Read it.
They take credit it.
Take it.
They do that.
They take credit for quote unquote influencing things like Andy apologizing to Garcel.
Um, dot, dot, dot, check Reddit slash Twitter.
They cloaked that in real time.
Cloaked that in real time.
Clocked, probably.
And it trended.
Men taking credit for women's work once again.
Oh, my God.
God.
You know, the problem with that whole situation,
and I remember that pretty vividly,
a lot of people were pointing out
that they thought that it was us
that influenced Andy to do that.
That was probably actually predates me calling us influencers.
I'm not mistaken, but who the hell knows?
Just shut up.
It's one thing if you were, like, making a joke,
but clearly you listen to us because that's a running joke,
the influencer thing, the quote-unquote influencers.
That's a running joke in our podcast.
So clearly you're listening to the podcast.
Don't give us one star because you got mad that we're quote-unquote taking credit for someone else's work.
We're not.
A lot of people said that we did it and we ran with it.
What the fuck do you want?
The breadcrumbs are there, if you want.
So, you know, whatever.
I fully agree.
Yeah.
No, not with you.
With the review.
Yeah.
All right, my rose, while I also went down that review rabbit hole,
and this was just a little solid for me
it made me feel pretty good.
It says, solid listen.
Shooter is so funny.
Steel has a great voice.
Their takes aren't always on point,
but makes for a good listen.
Would help if they had time stands,
but not everyone watches all the shows.
I get it.
We now have timestamps.
We do have timestamps.
So if you do want to make sure
that you listen to a specific point
or whatever,
we have timestamps.
So it's okay.
I just like that they said
that it was really funny.
You have a great voice.
We've heard that before,
but being called funny is nice.
You know, I'm not going to let that go to my head.
You know what I liked it?
It was a four out of five, right?
Yeah.
Yeah, I liked it because...
It was an honest review.
Yes, I appreciate honesty.
You don't have to, like, pander to us.
Like, if it's a four out of five and you give...
You know, it's a solid list and I don't agree with all their takes.
It's four to five.
Well done review.
Yeah.
Honestly.
I'm not saying don't...
Wait, wait.
I'm not saying don't give us five-star reviews.
I'm just saying that was an honest take, and I appreciate the honesty.
But this is a reunion episode.
so we have to kind of speed through the rest of this.
So let's touch on the news real quick,
just because there's a couple things
that are pertinent to the current shows
that we're watching,
such as Roslick might be saved
because we have the second coming of the prophet,
Mary Cosby.
She's coming back.
You don't have any experience with her.
No, no.
I went back and skipped through a couple different episodes
just to see if I could get used to her.
Because we did talk about this,
about her potentially coming back at some point.
I know, I think it was before Salt Lake started,
we were talking about her maybe coming back just to save the show
because we already knew that Jim was going to have to go away.
I have mixed feelings because she was funny for TV,
probably not in real life.
She's probably terrible to be around in real life, I imagine.
Oh, yeah, I could not imagine being near her, no.
No, but I just don't know if this show is going to be saved, you know?
And she's coming back in a friend-of slot, too.
She's a friend-of.
So are they just going to run with four and then have her as a friend of and then I heard that none of the like angies or dana's are coming back no they all got whacked i think what's going to happen i think they're bringing new people on okay i think i saw there's two maybe three here's the thing the show's going to have to stand on somebody's back right it's going to need to be carried such as a jen shaw right or like a teresa i'm not comparing jen shaw right or like a teresa i'm not comparing jen shaw
and Teresa, I'm just saying, like,
a lot of our listeners really want us to do that.
Yeah, I know, but we're not going to.
But it needs that headliner because Mary Cosby,
even if she wasn't a friend of, is definitely not the star.
She is comedic relief.
She's off the rails, but you can't build a show around her.
Can Lisa step into that role?
I don't know.
I don't know if Lisa can carry it alone.
I just don't think she gets the support from the other cast members
that we see.
Like, people are afraid of Teresa.
People are afraid of Karen, in a sense.
Like, the big, like, ringleaders, if you will, of the Housewife franchises,
people are either afraid of them or they support them blindly.
Lisa gets none of that.
Yeah, so I think, you know, she's entertaining enough to carry it.
I just don't know if she's going to have the support.
And, like, you said, I guess it's almost like reverence,
like kind of shying away from, like, the alpha, if you will.
Yeah.
But, I don't know, it'll be, I'm...
I'm now intrigued enough, and maybe that's exactly why they did it.
I will watch next season because Mary is back,
and she's that much of a wild card that I'll tune in to the first.
I'm surprised that we got noticed.
I guess they do have to start filming pretty soon, right?
I would never think.
Because they haven't even started filming Beverly Hills yet.
Well, that's because they were on a hiatus.
Yeah, I know, but we don't know how long that's going to be.
So I feel like they kind of move some of the timelines up because...
Oh, wait, I thought they started filming recently.
I think they did.
I think Beverly Hills started...
Yeah, I think so.
I don't know, because Sutton's in Paris right now.
oh yeah and i know garcel was somewhere which by the way we forgot to talk about
garcell putting out some eagles love love that did you not see that no how did you not
send that to me uh i think i saw it on twitter but i wasn't really paying attention maybe it's just
like a scroll through okay but a couple of our listeners followers actually tweeted back at us and
said you better talk about garcel supporting the birds i think she put up i think it was an
instagram story now that i'm thinking about it and it was like a picture of jalen hurts and
said like go birds love jalen blah blah blah i'm like hell yeah garcel's on our team that's
great got garcel on our team because crystal's a rams fan and so is sutton it's like boo
i know sutton's like a college football fan which i get southern attitude at least she's not a
cowboy's fan that's a good point um yeah no i saw that like the filming schedule's crazy um
salt lake starts next week filming already they just finished the reunion so they get like
no time off really they yeah they start filming on the 13th
You know what?
I think that's more common than you think.
Because the reunion doesn't film until the season is done airing.
So they have more time off than...
In between the reunion.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I think that's fairly common with the turnaround, honestly.
Yeah.
I think that it's more surprising that Beverly Hills maybe hasn't started filming yet
because it's usually pretty close after it finishes their final season or the final episode of the last season.
Yeah.
So I don't really know how that's going to work out.
But you know what?
It does look like a lot of work goes into that off season, if you will, though.
Did you see that binder that Lisa had tonight?
Yeah.
Holy shit.
She must have been working on that thing from, like, the end of filming till the reunion.
I think that you work on it during the season.
You see shit pop up.
You're like, oh, I need a receipt.
Oh, need a receipt.
You keep kind of building up your ammo.
I'm going to start printing out eye message receipts just to have them.
Just goofs.
And I'll fold up my back pocket and just like whip it out and be like.
Just break it out and make, well, you said that.
Yeah.
And just have it be something totally benign.
Just like, hey, when you're going to the park.
One of my jokes that I thought was funny that I sent to somebody that you don't even know.
I'd be like, read this one.
It's pretty good.
I got a receipt for you.
I like that.
If you pull that, like when we go watch the Super Bowl, if you pull something out of your pocket hand to me, I will, between that and if the birds win, or when the birds win, it'll be the greatest day of my life.
That would be a great bit.
It's a good bit.
Now, my only question is, where the fuck were we?
Point the tangent, huh?
Oh, yeah.
No.
Seal just looked to me like he forgot the weird.
podcast.
I don't know.
It was a loaded question.
No, I mean, we just, I want to touch on, there's two more things and they kind of go
one and the same only because they are these kind of split off shows that we're seeing.
And it sounds like Roney Legacy may have gotten the axe.
And I know that you are not bummed out at all about that.
Nope.
Yeah, Shooter didn't want to see it.
I wanted to see what they could do.
I wanted to give them like two episodes to sway me, but I was not confident.
I saw a picture of
It actually really made me laugh
It was a picture of Luann
reading the page 6 article
About Rooney Legacy getting the axed
She looked quote unquote on edge
Oh
And it's like I don't know how you see
She was just reading a fucking article
But it was funny that she was actually reading the article
About it getting axed
At some restaurant
Like having some coffee or something in the morning
And yeah, not mad about it at all
I thought it was going to be a train wreck
I thought no I didn't think it was going to be a train wreck
Honestly
I thought that it was going to be interesting
for about two to three episodes
and then everybody would realize
why they no longer watched
or wanted to watch Roney.
Oh, okay.
You know what I mean?
We needed a new blood.
We needed a lot of new things going on
and it was just more of the same.
I feel like two to three episodes in
you're going to be like,
all right, Durinda, no.
I can look up with today, please.
Like, we had enough of you on Ultimate Girls trip.
Lose, outdoor Lose.
I'm talking to you, buddy.
But, yeah, I don't know.
I'm not super sad that I got the axe.
What are you feeling?
First, lights of comment.
I love the hateful
bromance that has blossomed between you and Lowe's.
Oh, yeah.
And he messaged us today.
He bought one of our t-shirts.
So.
Good job, Lose.
This love-hate relationship that's going to hopefully continue for the tenure of this podcast.
But the other one is an Ultimate Girl's Trip moment.
And I'm excited for the next two seasons of Ultimate Girls' Trip, and there's been a lot
of drama coming out of them.
But this one involves your girl Brandy.
and an OG Caroline Manzo.
And I guess Brandy was trying to kiss her
as we saw her do in the last Ultimate Girl's trip
with, was it Tamara?
I think so, yeah.
No, no, Tamara was okay with it.
It was, um.
Vicki wasn't happening.
Vicki wasn't happening.
I guess Caroline was not having it either.
And from the article, it sounds like she did kiss her
multiple times against Caroline Manzo's will.
It got pretty messy.
I think they asked Brampton.
to leave the next day because of that because it was inappropriate and then Caroline decided
to leave of her own volition because she just didn't want to be there. I think Brandy left too.
Brandy was told to leave. Yeah, but then I, Caroline also. Caroline then left, but Caroline left because
she wanted to leave. Brandy was asked to leave because she was inappropriate. It's, it's a nasty
situation. It's not great. I just think that. And isn't Brandy going to be popping up in OC now too?
We got rumors that she might be in Beverly Hills, I thought. I thought she was.
was seen with Tamara in O.C.
I don't know.
I mean, look, there's speculation.
I guess, like, she does make for, like, relatively interesting TV, but at the end of
the day, like, do you really want shit like that to happen when you're filming?
Like, no.
You can't be out here kissing people that don't want to be kissed.
Like, period.
That's all.
That's it.
There's no more that really needs to be said.
You can't do that.
She doesn't want you to kiss her.
Fucking don't.
Definitely don't double and triple down as the article states.
Yeah, I just, I think this is, like, the dangerous waters that you get with X, X, is that everybody, I don't
don't think the brandy's like pining for a position anywhere i think this is truly just who she is
and what she does usually when she gets drunk but it just doesn't make for great tv sorry but like
it's just not i think the the schick will run its course before the season does yeah and yeah i think
she's good for an ultimate girl strip because it's what five six episodes it's not you know i don't
think that you put her on a full time if she's pulling this shit all the time it's going to like
you said it's going to get old get old real fast but um we've already
lingered for too long. We got to move on
and the good thing is
we only have three shows to cover this week
so we can get through it a little bit quicker
but we're back in Miami
and I actually, I couldn't
sleep last night. Are you dancing
because I'm welcome to Miami?
We're back in Miami
and you know what? I'm going to do this just once
because we got a new
soundboard and this thing
is legit. We used to use this like piece
of shit little box that
I would have to tweak because it would
sound like shit. Everyone always complained that our
volumes were too low. You can blame this
stupid box because we had
no idea how to use it. We did our best.
But now we got this fancy podcasting
machine. And I can say, we are
back in Miami and do this.
We got DJ
sound effects. The best is I can't even
actually really hear it. It just plays
out of like a headphones somewhere in the room.
I'm like, Jesus.
But it worked really well for Miami.
Yeah, no, that's why I wanted to use it just once.
We're playing at that lingerie party.
We'll play the clip.
Laundrae party.
Every time we bring it up.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
We got to play the clip.
You mentioned the lingerie party.
You got to play the clip where the girl gets smacked on the butt,
and there's three people walking around a lingerie, and it's wildly uncomfortable.
Honestly, we saw Lenny at the end of this episode, so I'm surprised that we didn't get the clip.
I'm, dude, I was like, I didn't want to see him on the screen, and he looks so scummy in there.
We'll get to that part.
Yeah, we'll save it.
We got to save it.
I know.
And we're like, you know, we're unhingedged.
We're on hinged.
I'm on Hinge shooter
But we get back into it
And it's still at Nicole's party
This whole scene's kind of weird to me
And we don't watch
I don't watch these until like
The day before the podcast
So it's already been out for a while
So I read a lot of comments
Of like people talking about
How they felt about the episode
And everyone kept bringing up Alexia
Alexia Alexia
And you know I've already turned on Alexia
I think I liked her the first episode
that we saw her because we didn't know any better like we hadn't seen her like everybody
honestly yeah that's true that's true but what she's saying to Nicole is it just doesn't make any
sense to me like she's defending Larsa she's saying like you like we saw it last week but it's like
you can say whatever you want to say anybody can say whatever they want to say which is ridiculous
which is I think of I don't know if she was just saying it like look people are going to talk shit
no matter what or if she was actually supporting Larsa I think it's the latter
she's definitely supporting Larsa because the whole episode she's just like
she's picking and choosing these battles
where it doesn't make any sense.
She just doesn't make any fucking sense
with what she's like saying.
I don't get when she's at the lawyer thing
and we'll get there later,
but she seems to take umbrage
with literally every single thing Nicole does
no matter what.
It can be completely unrelated to her
and she still jumps in.
Like, why are you defending Larsa?
Larsa was wrong.
To sit at Nicole's party
and defend Larsa
makes no fucking sense to me.
Marisol doesn't help the situation.
And I will say,
You got that one confessional where Marisol is like, can I have a new best friend?
Like, at least she's aware of that.
But in the moment, she's still defending her.
That's what I'm saying.
So you completely negate your point.
And you can stand by your best friend in a moment where they're being a dumbass by just not saying anything.
Like, you just let them go.
And then later you'd be like, yo, dude, what the fuck was that?
Like, that wasn't a good look.
But in the moment, you don't have to embarrass them in front of everybody.
You can let them shoot themselves in the foot.
And then you clean up the wound for them.
And then you get that right on the, I don't know, what's the reverse of on the heels?
On the toes?
That would be the opposite of it.
We do that.
On the toes?
Let's start that.
We're going to do that.
So, like, if something.
What if this is already a term and now you're taking credit for starting a term?
Yeah, I'm going to contact the dick now.
Somebody needs to knock you down a peg.
So on the toes of that, we get Alexia and Adriana and Tieri, our boy.
Oh, my.
I thought, if I'm, if I'm Tieri.
I'm pissed off.
I'm like...
Same.
What the fuck?
Like, who is this woman?
Why is she talking shit?
Why is she digging up my records?
It makes absolutely no sense.
Was his remark necessary at all?
The can you read?
No, but...
But he did recover, I thought, a little bit.
I thought the recovery was hilarious.
Do you have your glasses?
Yeah, they have your glasses?
I was like, good, save, dumbass.
Just fucking lean into it.
Like, if you're really, if you're just going to, like, completely insult her,
you got to just say, can you read.
You got to just leave it there.
Because it's funny, at least.
Like, somebody might get a laugh out of it.
But if you try to recover, just be like, eh.
But look, at the same time, Alexia blows up.
She's like, oh, what are you questioning me?
Calling me an idiot, essentially.
It's like, no.
But you were a huge asshole and went through his public records to prove that he was still married,
which later you found out that you didn't even fucking read the thing.
So you know what?
Let's bring it up.
Can you read?
That's what I'm saying.
Like, that was the best vindication I've ever seen.
But it would have been so funny if somebody.
was there or like look i could see julia i could see Nicole making that joke just being like
shit can you read yeah i mean i thought it was a layup because like the fact that it comes out that
she just didn't read that part like that all you had to do is scroll down and you wouldn't have
caused this whole scene and all of this with adriana so the joke was perfect and here's the thing
like a lot of people got mad because you know it's a man saying something like that to a woman
and obviously, you know, it's not a great look.
In this moment, though, dude, he's so pissed,
and he's been slighted way worse than anybody else there.
It's like, dude, you're trying to ruin this man by saying that he's still married.
We've already brought up the point that they're on TV.
She needs to talk to his ex-wife.
Like, let's get the ex-wife on the screen.
The fact that he has to bring his marriage license to vindicate himself is ridiculous.
And then he hands it to her, and she says, what am I going to do?
Like, wipe my butt?
Like, I don't need this.
Well, that was just her entirely deflecting, which is all.
Also, like, now you see why her and Larsa get along so well, they just deflect their asses off.
And they're like, immediately, Alexia knows that she did something wrong and she's not going to face the music.
So she immediately just goes off the deep end.
What am I going to do?
White my butt with this?
She stands up.
She starts yelling at the guy.
She deflects and starts talking about the can you read comment.
And he's just sitting there, like, smiling, which I thought was great.
Because now I'm like, all right, this dude knows that, like, you don't have to take this seriously.
And he knows what he got into.
You know you're completely right.
You know what you were doing.
and you know what she was doing.
And now you realize that you've won and who cares.
And you can see, like, again, nobody's helping the situation at all.
Julia was helping because Julia's sitting right next to.
I'm like, come on, like, this is ridiculous.
I do like that we are building a little faction
and you get to see more and more of this episode with Nicole and Adriana,
Adriana, who seems to have like no voice.
This show is so confusing with the friends of.
I'm sorry, I had to just completely stop in the middle of that sentence.
There's a lot of friends of.
There are so many friends of, and they're all going to the reunion.
they're all real castmates.
I just think that maybe their budget is for the main cast,
and then they've got the friends of,
and they just pay them a little bit less,
and you have to give them a different title.
I don't know.
But they're all just as important to each other.
And they're all great.
Yeah, and honestly,
they all make for really good TV, even when I hate them.
But you get to see Nicole and Adriana showing support.
You get Julia, who's just finally happy
because she hates so many of these women
and she just can't stand them,
that she gets to talk to somebody like Nicole,
like Adriana,
and we saw Adriana inviting Julia to the BBL.
It's just so nice to see this faction because now you're going up against Alexia
and making her look like shit.
If it's just one person going after her and you get the other people chiming in,
you have me and Steele sitting here saying it's intolerable,
but that doesn't help you in the moment.
You need help in the moment and you're finally seeing these women group up.
And I love it because look, if we get a little four-on-four clash,
I'm all for that because it's equal fighting and it's equal arguing
and we get to actually pick teams.
And it's great.
I think that why with a show like this specifically,
why I'm ready for that and excited for that,
is because there's been other fun stuff happening.
Like, it hasn't been all chaos.
It hasn't been all drama and just mean shit.
We've had, like we talk about, we mention our reprieves.
We've had multiple.
We've had a lot of really fun moments with this cast.
So now it's like, okay, now when you hit me with the heavy drama,
like I'm ready for it because we've built up good relationships.
We've seen some shit getting started.
Let's dig into it now.
Oh, yeah.
They did a great job.
And just to kind of finish this scene up,
The craziest part to me is after all of this, and I get that you might be a little pissed off
because her new man just, like, dragged you in front of everybody.
How can you not just say sorry?
How are you non-apologetic for what you've caused?
You've made this, I can't imagine that that relationship is off to a great start.
No, probably not.
These are your friends?
Like, I knew you were a real housewife, but I have to start digging out my public records
to defend myself because they have my records on their fucking cell phone.
Like, Adriana deserves to find love.
and if she found that in this man, Terry, like, leave them alone.
Why are you budding into this whole thing?
All it screams is that you're seeking attention.
Either you want to try to be that main alpha on this show
and you're trying to, like, knock everybody down a peg so that you stand alone.
But you got caught.
You got busted.
Your whole plan fell apart.
And because he dropped a good one-liner on, you can't even muster up the strength now or later.
And that's going to take us in this next scene, the lawyer party.
you can't even just fucking say sorry
hey my bad
like I shouldn't have done that
I think that's kind of where we're going
in the direction that we're going in with a lot of these shows
and we see it in Potomac
to the point that like I'm nauseous about it
they're going after husbands
they're going after relationships and it's like stop
have beef within yourselves
you don't have to bring the spouse into it
you don't have to make up cheating rumors
you don't have to make up infidelity
whatever it's just pointless
just keep all the fights between the two of you
and don't try to break up nice relationships
Like, that's really all we have to do.
Do we have to add another rule?
That, that, the kids, now we're going to say four.
Yeah, we need number four is.
Don't break up nice relationships.
Don't break up happy relationships.
Period.
That's all we need.
Just keep it within yourselves.
You signed up for, now I guess Terry had to like sign a waiver or whatever.
But still, he didn't really sign up for this.
He's just trying to have a nice relationship as a divorced man in Miami.
And he's having a good time.
You know, Adriana has music videos going on.
Maybe he wants to get in the music video.
Who knows?
We've got to talk to the crazy director about that one.
But it is, I guess, getting a little tiring with the attacking of spouses and boyfriends and whatever the hell you might have.
It's just like find a new slant.
It's annoying.
And like I said, I mean, that takes us directly into the lawyer luncheon, which the premise of just baffles me.
I can't imagine like having this many legal questions to the point where I'm going to get my group of friends together because we all have legal questions and ask a lawyer.
Are they really legal questions, or are they just asking questions that are pertinent to the season?
They're asking questions that are in regards to their storylines to try to make themselves seem like they are right.
That's all they're doing.
They're saying, it's slander.
It's got what the producer said.
Like, all right, we've got this lawyer coming in or somebody came up with the idea to do it for Lisa, which, by the way, Lisa didn't actually need that lawyer to come in.
She just needed the distraction of everybody fighting, which I thought was really funny and really nice, actually, because it gets to take her mind.
off of it. She doesn't have to be involved in the fighting.
She just gets to sit back and watch
her friends just completely tear each other apart,
which sounds like a pretty fun time.
I mean, she clearly needed
it, and if it's at the expense
of everybody else because they're being idiot, it's like,
great. I mean, that's why we watch the show.
Absolutely.
Lisa's just a Bravo fan
in that moment. Welcome to the club.
But you can see the main
points of contention are
Larsa Nicole,
Alexia, Adriana.
Nicole chimes in and asks about slander.
and then very quickly, he's like, ask your husband about it.
I don't know what that means.
Do you know what that means?
He's a lawyer, but he's an insurance lawyer.
Oh, okay.
But insurance is certainly not...
No, that is not slander law.
Anything to do with slander.
Alexia then goes on to say, well, this lawyer over here, that's not his specialty.
That's not what he does.
And after Nicole gets through her whole spiel, finally, with Alexia just yelling over her,
the lawyer goes, well, I actually deal with that quite a bit.
Yeah.
Slander and libel.
Like I know the difference between the two
and a lot of what we do in our law practice
has to do with stuff like that.
I mean, obviously the slander in question
is Larson's claim that Nicole was hooking up
with every doctor at the hospital.
This part really pissed me off
when this came to light.
What actually happened?
I guess her and her husband took a break.
Like they were not together for some period of time.
They were separated.
Yeah.
They separated?
Yeah.
Or I guess no, because they were dating
because they just got engaged.
Well, no, no, her ex-husband.
Oh.
Okay.
So she was separated.
Yeah.
She had a relationship with a resident at her hospital.
While she was also a resident.
Yes.
A consenting relationship between two adults that has nothing to do with adultery, infidelity,
and you're going to use that as your ammunition.
And then Marisol's like, I got proof, which is a shady DM from God knows who.
But even in the DM, it's like, I think that it was during a separation.
and she was with a resident at the hospital.
So all you did was say, oh, she dated somebody else that was also a doctor,
which I know a lot of doctors, a lot of them are married to doctors.
So that makes a lot of fucking sense if you're spending 20 out of 24 hours a day at a goddamn hospital
that you would take interest in another doctor also spending 20 hours a day at a fucking hospital.
Yeah, and here's the bone to really pick with Alexia.
And there's a couple of things that she said that really just pissed me off.
When Julia is talking about her relationship with Martina and how it was kind of
scrutinized while she was in Paris, and she just wanted to go and have like a huge hug and a big
kiss with Martina in the square in front of everybody because nobody was really approving
of her of her marriage, of her relationship when they were talking about the policy
that's now going on in Florida, Alexia goes and says, well, Julia, with you wanting to empower
women, I think it's funny that you didn't step up for me when that man the other day put
me down with that comment. Now hold on, Alexia, because you're allowed to allow Larsa to say that
Nicole slept with every doctor in her hospital implying that she got her position because she
slept around. That is way more damning than anything that you could imagine being said to you.
I'm sorry, but you're saying that she got her position in her hospital because she slept around.
That's terrible for women. That's terrible for women in the workforce. And that's fucking annoying
a shit because you can't look yourself in the face and be like, oh, well, this guy can tell me
that I can't read, but you can look at Larson and be like, yeah, that's okay that you said that
to Julia.
That's cool.
Not to mention by using that in comparison to like, oh, you are worried about what's going
out in Florida and this and that and you can't stand up for me in that moment, that is not
the same fucking thing at all.
For the LGBTQ community not being able to say the word gay in Florida is fucking insane.
and for you to compare that to her not stick or for you to question her woman empowerment by saying
she didn't stand up for you in that moment because she stands up for that stuff like that's
fucking ridiculous that is such a bold stupid claim to make and it just perfectly paints the
picture of what alexia has become like everything that she says is just off the rails it has
no bearing she's just trying to better herself regardless of what she's saying like i don't even
I think she knows what she's saying half the time.
It doesn't make any sense.
It barely relates to the topic at hand.
But to bring it back a little bit,
you've got to pull me,
but you got to reel me back in something.
Real back in.
After all of the talk about what actually happened with this doctor at the hospital,
all Larsa can reply with is whatever, whatever, whatever.
She knows she's wrong.
That's your response?
There's just no spine there, really.
Like, she really does just say shit, and Nicole's right on the nose.
When Larsa feels uncomfortable,
she just says shit and she makes things up and she just runs with it to try to embarrass you in that
moment so that she feels less embarrassed herself and then she can get the fuck out of there.
So now when you're bringing it back up, especially in front of a lawyer, and you realize that you are
completely wrong, you could just say whatever, whatever, whatever, and nothing bad's ever going to happen.
Again, I just don't understand the dynamic between everybody because everybody seems to support Nicole
and understands that what Larsa said is wrong, but nobody's giving Larsa shit to.
directly.
No.
Like, no one.
Julie is not saying, and I like Julia a lot, and I feel like she does stand by
her friends, but she doesn't speak up for anything.
Adriana, again, does not really have a voice.
Gertie is a friend of Nicole's and Larsa, and she's a businesswoman.
But I do like...
In that situation, just fucking speak up and be like, Larsa, that's terrible to say.
I agree with you, but I do like that she can play both sides, and she's not playing anybody.
She just is a friend to both and doesn't let it cloud her relationship with, yeah.
Yeah, but I think it's nice to see somebody that's like,
she's not being skeevy about it.
No, she's not being skeevy about it.
And she just says, Nicole, like,
I can't believe you sent that fucking mirror.
I was at her house.
Like, that's just honest.
And like, I think I'm just so strongly on Nicole's side.
Yeah, I think that everybody is.
I just want somebody to fucking help her.
You know what?
I think that the root of it all is honestly just jealousy.
I think that she is a beautiful, intelligent, very successful.
Like, she's done all these amazing things.
and I think that Alexia is jealous.
But do you think that Larsa is getting 40K from feet picks on OnlyFans?
I don't know.
By the way, you know what?
If you're paying 40 or whatever the fuck you might be paying for that,
you can probably just watch Bravo because they just showed you what she was putting on her only fans.
Oh, that's a really good point.
You don't have to pay for the only fans.
They should have flurred it out.
Yeah, they should have flurred it out.
No free ads, see?
I thought that was funny.
And a little chuckle for myself.
Bravo gave her a free ad for her only feat.
people still want to see our feet
We've gotten
We continue to get offers
Yeah
So if you start to get down and out buddy
You let me know
And offers are not high enough yet
Yet
But the episode ends
We get to see Slimy Lenny
Who
It's emotional terrorism
How the fuck are you going to go work from home
When you're trying to kick
Your ex-wife out of the house
That you want nothing to do with her
But you're going to continuously walk by her
she's not the one that tried to end this thing.
You did.
And you're just going to force your cameras are there.
Of course.
Yeah.
And then he's trying to like hide behind the wall.
Like, fuck you, Lenny.
He got a little pissed off when the camera came in.
But, and Colleen pointed this out.
Did you notice that his audio was crystal?
He was miced up.
He was mic.
Son of a bitch.
And I'm like, oh, well, maybe I was making excuses for him.
I'm like, oh, well, maybe there's a camera in there.
Not for him.
But I was like, oh, maybe there's a camera in there or whatever.
And then when they walk away and they're just like down the hallway, you can hear Lisa very clearly.
And you can hear him very clearly.
and you can see her,
and she's still a good, like, six, seven feet away from him.
So he's fucking miced up.
He's a scumbag.
Can you hear, like, the little, like, just the little dick energy coming out of this man?
He's like, he's trying to, like, tell her, like, and you need to find a place to live.
Do you understand me?
Do I need to explain it to you?
Yeah.
Like, no, dumb fuck.
Everyone heard what you said.
It's not some crazy, unintelligible thought.
Like, she needs to find another place to live because you're trying to kick her out of a house
after you're divorcing her for some 20-something Instagram model.
Like, yeah, we all.
got you. You don't have to mansplain it any hard
you, you little bitch.
No, I mean, you were right. Little Dick Energy.
I mean, look at the fucking house. Like, he wishes
he was the president. Why do you think those pillars
outside are so big?
Yeah, that's the point.
Shitty, shitty house.
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But we are now back in Potomac for, I'm going to say, a purposefully uneventful episode.
Yeah.
I, like, the more that we watch these shows and the more that they coincide with newsbreaking,
I start to see a pattern here where I think that that is intentional.
it probably is so this episode i mean the main points here because the main point that we're
going to talk about didn't even happen in this episode it happened outside of the real housewives world
which is fucking crazy but before we get there this one's mainly about i guess mea and wendy had a
little rendezvous that's a nice way to put it had a little rendezvous when they were on vacation
and we're not really sure what happened jazelle keeps saying that they were doing vagina bumping
No one ever said vagina bumping except Giselle
But she keeps running with it
So I think that the story will eventually be
Yeah, they bump vaginas
Yeah, I think Giselle finds herself thinking
That what she's saying that
And it's like, all right, Giselle, stop saying that
Just stop it
It's not weird me out funny
But I think that the funniest part of it
Is that Mia's like
Oh, well now I know why it was so tense between us
And why she didn't like me so much
It was just sexual tension
She wanted to get that cookie
Are you fine? Come on, dude
Like, come on.
You cannot be that far up your own ass to actually think that that's the reason.
She is. She definitely is.
What?
Like, that was crazy to hear that.
Like, you really think that there was so much tension because she wanted to hook up with you.
Come on.
I don't know.
Look, not that I, like, wanted to see any of it go down, but what is with this, like, you're in Mexico on a trip for the show that you're on?
Right.
And they don't show, like, any footage of them hanging out afterwards.
No, it was all just when they were arguing and stuff.
Like, I want to see them partying.
I want to see them, like, having fun and going.
Like, they would get, it kind of pisses me all because all you get is, like, clips of the club.
Like, just stick a camera in the club.
Yeah.
Like, just, like, let us watch for a little bit more.
And I know that, like, sometimes they mislead you and they're like, oh, it looks
like they were in the club for a long time.
It's like, no, they were only there for, like, 20 minutes.
But give us a little bit more.
I mean, they're there to party.
And all you're showing is, and some of it's important.
Yeah.
But, like, do I need to see them fight over the same thing 15 times in a row?
No. Show me a little bit more of the partying and then making up, not just pictures of it the next day or someone's cell phone when you could easily just get some cameras in there.
I want to watch them playing like flip cup in a bar or like singing karaoke or like not just being mean and pissed off all the time.
Yeah, I want to see them like actually be friends and have fun with each other because it sounds like that's what happens.
I mean, you hear Chris and Candace start talking about it and Candace is like, I don't know, my last night, I woke up in the shower and, you know, that was pretty impressive.
Chris is like, yeah, that is pretty impressive.
I think a friend of ours actually woke up in a shower recently.
Oh, yeah, yeah, he definitely did.
True story.
Yeah, that's a true story.
But, yeah, I agree.
I do want to see a lot more of the fun stuff.
And, yeah, this could be a purposely meaningless episode
because there wasn't really a lot going on aside from that.
And there was a lot going on outside of that.
Let's just do it.
Let's just tear that bandaid off and jump into the real news and the real
highlight of Potomac this week.
And it was from an episode of
reasonably shady. And we obviously
last week got Karen saying that there
were some rumors about
Juan Dixon's quote-unquote girlfriend
in Georgetown.
100% confirmed
that this actually happened.
So this calls into question
and also makes so many things way more
apparent. We questioned last week and a lot of our
listeners questioned last week, did
Juan's reactions
seem suspicious? And we both
Yeah, it really did.
It seemed like a weird way to react to this whole thing.
But now I think it's now knowing this and knowing that Robin knew about it,
it seems like his reactions were for the cameras.
They were.
Because she was trying to do it too.
She was like, yeah, they said you have like a girlfriend.
Like if you rewatch it now, it's like, wow, clearly she's like acting and not doing a good job here.
And that is easy for us to say in hindsight, but yeah.
In hindsight for sure.
But we'll get shit for it, but yeah.
But whatever.
I mean, it's just there's so many things.
wrong with this and we're going to unpack it all. The fact that first and foremost, the most
obvious thing here, why was this not discussed during the season? Why was this held off to
until now? And then you're going to charge people behind a paywall. You got to join their
Patreon to hear the full story. Like, first of all, anyone that does that's an idiot because you don't
need to go and listen to her explain it away. You now know what happened. You're not going to get the
full truth. It's the same thing as the Jen Chow bullshit. And all you really need is one person to go in,
by the way, one person can go in and pay for it,
and then they will go spill the beans everywhere on Twitter.
I think that this is just how this works.
The Bravo Bottoms actually bit the bullet
and signed up for the Dear Jen Shaw thing.
I saw them post that they were going to subscribe to it.
We'll have to reach out to the boys.
Yeah, we'll reach out of the boys and see what they dug up there.
But back to the drama in Potomac,
it's just the whole reason that you're on this show
is to show the drama in your life, right?
And then for her on the podcast to then say, well, I was waiting for it to come out.
Like, I was ready to defend myself.
I was ready for somebody to bring it up.
But nobody ever did.
Nobody ever did.
Blah, blah, blah.
That's bullshit.
Yeah.
Because in that moment when it was pretty much brought up, you did not address anything.
You deflected and did a really bad acting job.
And Juan screamed at you over the phone.
Not only that, but from what I've heard, she's still doing a really bad deflecting job.
She really is.
She's saying that, like, oh, maybe they weren't actually, like, sexually active.
some bullshit and he was she the the woman was on a trip they needed wand to fill out her hotel
itinerary yeah he didn't stay like no when you have somebody else fill out your hotel itinerary
you still need your name on it it wouldn't be under wand like like it just doesn't make it
it's such bullshit i don't know what she's trying to do at this point especially now that she's
charging for it i hope this doesn't become a thing where heather's saying buy my fucking book
and then doesn't give you an answer for her black eye jen shaw's going to say
buy my Patreon or whatever
go to jail and you're never actually going to get
the true story because she's just going to lie her ass off
now we've got to do this and Robin's going to deflect
the whole situation like I just don't
understand like what's next I don't know
but it we should put bets on what's next
honestly what's I don't know what's next
dude and I'd be another scandal and we're not
going to get shit probably
but it's just for this to come out now
like there needs to be repercussions
for this like you can't hold on
to shit and then charge people
so that you're making bank off of it
It doesn't make any sense.
Like, you're literally overstepping Bravo.
You're stepping on their toes and showing...
Do you think Bravo has to give the okay for this?
I think that Bravo's going to be pissed.
I think Andy's going to be pissed.
Like, you can't then charge for this shit.
If you held on to it,
I don't think they will get a cut unless this is all part of their plan.
But it brings me to probably what pissed me off the most.
And it's been a running theme amongst franchises.
Like, the spouses are under attack this year.
It's not just dudes.
like people went after Martina and Julia's relationship,
like people are just going after spouses.
And I think that it's fucking crazy, crazy,
that Giselle knew about this the entire season.
Giselle knew about this the whole time.
She knew that somebody was actually being fucking shady, gross,
cheating, stepping out.
And you're going to try to throw Chris...
Unless Robin gave him the okay.
Do we even know that?
They could have an open relationship
and they're just like not proud to say it.
I don't know.
I don't think so.
Now they're getting married or they're,
already got married.
They already got married.
He's cheated on you twice, but whatever.
Is it reasonable or is it shady?
That's like the fifth time you've used that.
I'm going to put it on the soundboard over here and just click that.
You get fucking sued.
I just don't get how you can sit there in a glass house and throw stones at somebody
to try to derail from the main point.
Clearly everything that's been going on this season has been trying to take the attention
off of her girl, Robin, and Giselle's been pointing fingers elsewhere.
It's horseshit and it almost ruined somebody else's life, right?
Like that's something that you can't really come back from and she's throwing around accusations.
She's doing this.
She's doing that.
Meanwhile, she's sitting on one that's actually real.
That's true just because her girl Robin, she doesn't want to throw her under the bus.
But fuck that.
If that's the case, just bite your tongue.
Don't drag other people into it.
Yeah, we're not telling you that you have to spill the beans and you can still get away with trying to bring Chris down.
We're just saying just don't say shit about Chris.
Don't talk about it.
Don't try to do anything else.
Just sit on your lie and just go have a good season.
Like, we don't need everything.
It's annoying.
No, and it's just, like, it's par for the course, honestly, and it's not even surprising.
Like, I was surprised initially when I heard that he actually cheated because it has been the running theme that, like, oh, he's stepping out on you.
Oh, she's stepping out on you.
Like, everyone's cheating on everybody.
So I was kind of like, we've heard this before, so we're really doing this again.
It goes to that scene with Chris, and he's even like, oh, we're just.
going to throw another husband out of the bus.
But it turns out Karen's on the up and up.
And this brings a lot of things into question with Karen.
Because we've been like, you know, she's going off the rails a little bit.
She's getting a little too comfortable, a little too big for her britches.
100% fact.
She dropped a 100% fact.
And we thought she was being nuts.
So maybe Karen has been truthful the whole time.
It calls into question the Cherie stuff.
Oh, God, the Cherie stuff.
Everything.
Everything. Everything is not a question.
She's just getting drunk at the strip pub eating lobster and steak.
I just yelling the things that Karen has done in her life.
And then everyone's like, when was this?
Was this recently?
No, this was years ago.
Okay.
Do you believe that Karen banged a dude in a bathroom at a party?
I don't think it's either here nor there.
I don't think so either.
But those are some like, I think, I think what Cherise is referring to was probably
fucking 30 years ago.
But it's like, it's.
Do I care?
Not really.
Slander.
Should we go back to the lawyer party?
Yeah, unless she wrote.
Little slanderous.
Maybe it's libel.
Wrote it down on a napkin while she was eating some fucking steak and lobster.
Can we just please talk about the steak and lobster at the strip club?
It's disgusting.
Right?
You couldn't pay me to eat food at a strip club.
Oh, my God.
The Mia is talking about how she worked at an entertainment place that served food and she ate steak and lobster all the time.
It's disgusting.
Like, I just eating anything, I can't imagine eating anything at a strip club.
And I'm not a strip club guy, but I just can't.
imagine eating anything there, let alone lobster and steak.
Look, I've never been to one, so I can't really comment.
Oh, there you go.
It's your wife listening?
No, but jokes aside, like, you couldn't pay me to eat any kind of food at a strip club.
It's just, like, there's just no way.
It's not hygienic.
I can't do it.
But, like, other than that, not that much else happened.
We had Cherise asking about Michael Darby and Candace dropped a great one-liner.
If someone was going to pay me to leave Gollum, give me half of their money, I'd be on that train immediately.
She is so funny.
She's had a great season.
I don't care how mean she is.
She is so funny.
Well, even when she's mean, she's fucking fun.
I know.
Like, she's got the best clapbacks in the game, period.
Yeah.
No one else.
They really don't because they're so witty and they're just on and they're a little bit too mean, which makes them even better.
Yeah, I know.
But the only thing that I want to talk about, and then we can move on to.
the reunion the end of this episode when blue-eyed man comes back up they're calling into
question the blue-eyed man and the picture of karen with allegedly karen with some dude
did you hear what mea said no she said well gee told me that when you get older if you
really love your wife then you give them a pass how do you feel about that let's say here
let me paint a picture okay you and you and call are getting made no no no i'm going to paint a picture
I'm going to paint a picture.
All right.
So you and Collar get married soon.
It is, you are 80.
How many years younger is she, than you?
Two and a half.
Okay, so she's 77 and a half.
You're 80 years old.
I'll give you 90.
All right, so let's make this a little bit like like.
You think I'm making it's 90?
No, I don't, but I didn't want to be the one to be like, oh, you're 80.
You're at the end of your life.
So you're 90.
She's 87 and a half.
Okay.
You are completely, I mean, you're still mentally there, but you can't really move around much.
You're just kind of a lounge around kind of guy.
She's still, you know, active.
She's still moving around.
She still gets out of the house.
Yeah.
She meets, like, a cute tennis instructor.
The tennis instructor maybe takes a liking to her.
She comes home and says, Sean, I love you so much.
You're my everything.
We've had a wonderful life together.
I'm so thankful for all the times we've had together.
Uh-huh.
I got a little more gas left in the tank, and I want to go.
and explore that with this nice young gentleman.
You as 90-year-old shooter,
probably angrily sitting in a chair yelling for some reason.
What's your response?
I don't know.
The scene itself made,
it didn't make me feel weird.
I don't know.
It's just any time that me it talks about stuff like that.
It bothers me.
But I didn't really get it.
Yeah, I'm deflecting.
I don't know.
Honestly, I really don't.
Yeah, I guess, like, if she's still moving around and running around,
look, I don't think that painting a picture of an 87-year-old woman having sex
is, like, a great scene for us to do right now.
But if she wants to go out on dates with other men, and I can't do that, yeah.
You know what?
I love her enough.
She wants to go live her life if I'm just stuck in, like, some rocking chair, which I imagine on the porch,
probably with a shotgun yelling at the kids in the neighborhood.
Yeah, I see that.
Yeah, you know.
But still somehow, like, basketball next to go birds.
She still somehow can shoot.
Yeah, no, I think that's nice.
I think that's a nice thing you can do.
Now, do you think Ray actually,
or do you think G actually said that to Mia,
and do you think that Ray should allow that for Karen?
I think G definitely said that to Mia.
Or rather, Mia said that G.
And he agreed.
And then he agreed.
Yeah, I think that makes way more sense.
I don't see Ray doing that for Karen.
I don't either.
I think that I heard somebody dropped that he hired, like,
a private investigator
I didn't know that
And that was like relatively recent
It wasn't that long ago
So clearly he gives a shit
And like you know
I don't think that he would agree
To that barred The analogy that Mia made was
If you can't go upstairs
And how are you going to go upstairs on your woman or something?
It was just
Mea just fucking bothers me
She thinks she's saying something witty and fun
And it's just annoying
Gross usually but
Where were we?
You're apparently a very loving
I've paid you into a mental box
Yeah, I'm in a last case of emotion.
Yep.
Mission accomplished.
But that takes us to the grand finale.
We had episode number two and the final episode of, thank God, the Salt Lake Reunion.
Pretty much a snooze fest.
It wasn't very entertaining.
I think that the segment of the husbands was one of the worst segments in Bravo history.
What a waste of time.
It really was.
It was such filler.
I guess they have to do multiple reunion episodes at this point.
They don't have to.
You can just do one.
Unless it's like, you should take a vote.
Put it out to like Twitter and be like, hey, how many do you want for this season?
And let the fans choose because this one needed one and done.
I got so scared.
Somebody commented on one of our videos and said, I can't believe we have three reunion episodes of this.
And I had originally thought that it was only two.
And then I got really scared towards the end of this one when there was like three minutes left.
And he's like, and we'll be right back.
And I'm like, fuck me.
No.
We have another one.
I will yeat myself somewhere.
But yeat back.
Yeah, yeat's back.
Yeat myself off a nearby bridge.
No, the third episode was slated to be the one-on-one with Jed.
That's why it was slated for three.
Yeah, so that was, that's why that got axed.
What a cluster fuck that way.
Yeah, what a shit show.
Oh, damn it.
Look, let me just say one thing about Andy.
Okay.
And this is, what, our third reunion?
Yes.
I think I just threw it.
number out there but yeah third reunion can you clearly tell who he likes and who he doesn't
like on the cast yeah pretty much it is fucking annoying it's so apparent and it's kind of
annoying and like heather had one of the worst seasons ever yeah it was awful he loves heather
he jokes to her he makes fun of other castmates and then looks at heather and laughs it's
ridiculous he the way he interacts with whitney is like terrible like she's talking about like
childhood trauma and whatever and he's just like one word answering her and like moving on and
whatever and he goes to heather and he talks about her stupid fucking black eye and then like
whatever talks about how she is Mormon guilt for drinking and Andy feels really bad and then you see
somebody make a comment about Jenshaw going to prison he's like oh oh no not by baby Jenshaw's
like shut the fuck up dude like you should be you're like the boss of all these employees
if you will not like the boss he is the fucking boss they're all your employees they all make you
money. How about you treat them all equally, except for, you know, the one that's going
to prison. This one over here who's spewing some dumb bullshit about her black eye for like
17 fucking episodes. Like, it just makes absolutely no sense. He plays favorites so much.
I will say. It hinders the reunion episodes.
Sorry to cut you. I didn't mean to cut you off. No, it's fine. Yeah.
I will say, I thought that the second half of the episode was good. I thought he had a good
second half because he went after Meredith. He did go after Meredith, which I was surprised that he
didn't go after Heather though he didn't go after Meredith but here's the thing and he didn't
really engage with Whitney at all no and that that bugged me the Heather thing not so much because
if you're reading it from like we as viewers are obviously going to dive deeper into it and we've been
watching all these episodes and reading all the comments and blah blah blah and we have very
strong opinions about it if you're looking at it from like a friendship standpoint like if you are
friends with this person she seems like she's emotionally going through it at least if you're
close to her right like from the outside of the
looking in we have different takes but maybe he felt like you know he couldn't go in too hard because
she seemed extremely shaky at least for me watching like but it wasn't even just that it was also
just the heather uh it was also just the heather Whitney relationship yeah yeah no no no he was
letting Heather just talk her fucking ass off he literally cut off he literally cut off Whitney like
two or three times in a row yeah and like that but i do agree the the merit of thing was much
better because I even said it like audibly and he's on a hot street yeah and there was one moment
where Lisa had sent something it was kind of a back and forth between Meredith and Lisa and I forget
exactly what the question was but Lisa had yelled back oh it was something about Jen Lisa had yelled
that question over like are you afraid of Jen and you could hear it but Andy cut her off and then
re-asked the question from him and it made a lot of sense because if Lisa had asked that Meredith would
have been like no Lisa like I'm not afraid of Jen why don't you just stop but instead Andy
Great Meredith impression.
I was trying to do the frown thing
because she always does like her mouth
is always down like this
and she talks like
Andy will interject
and ask a question
and it just makes a lot more sense
when Andy does it because you actually
have to answer that question
so I'll give him props there
it was just kind of annoying
and I think I'm just getting tired
to him hosting reunions
bringing Nikki Monash back
No I mean I see what you're saying
I think that in the grand scheme
of reunions that we've watched with them
this was his best one
Yeah, probably.
But the funny thing about that side of the room, like those two couches,
those two can't get their shit straight.
And this episode just further proved Jen's got something on them.
It's just hammered it home because they talk in circles.
They don't make any sense.
They're not addressing what's been presented to them.
The one time that Lisa chimes in, Meredith's like, no, oh my God, like really blah, blah, blah.
She just asked you a question.
Yep.
And all you do is deflect because.
it's Lisa you already addressed it like Lisa asked a question you have like like why are you
feeling any different because she's being sentenced versus being found guilty I don't know
like you didn't I just need to see how many years she gets before I make my decision on it like
why she's going to jail like even Andy said it he's like we know she's going to jail for multiple
years yeah everybody and they're like yeah she is okay so let's hear what you have to say about
that's it and like I'm glad he kept like hammering at home like dude what do you mean because
and you didn't see last season but last season but last
season, she legit. So the episode that Jen gets charged, or they go and, like, try to find her on
their spinner van. They get to Vail. Oh, wow, you have a Vail sweatshirt on. Hell yeah. Sick,
Symbolism, dude. Would you go there once? Like, what the... Yeah, I did. Went there once. Didn't
get arrested, Jen. Hey, nice. But if you go back to that episode, she's legit sitting in this giant
bathtub, having a bubble bath at, like, noon, while all the other women are arriving to the house.
And she's, like, having a glass of champagne clearly, quite clearly gloating.
And when Lisa calls her out on the gloating, she's like, no, I wasn't gloating.
It's like, go back and watch the chape.
Let's check the film.
Because, yes, you were.
You talk shit about Jen literally the entire season.
You were anti-Gen.
And they did have, like, two or three flashbacks with Mary Cosby.
Now that I'm thinking about it.
Yeah.
She was in there a little bit.
Yeah.
So maybe, see, they're trying to put her back into film.
I know what they're doing.
Yep.
Uh-huh.
I see what you're doing, bravo.
For her to now take this stance that's completely on the other side.
And she says it's because she got very credible information that Jen actually did try to take her own life.
Okay.
We're going to tread lightly, obviously.
If that is true, then I do understand that she has her own personal experience with that.
So she wanted to put all the other bullshit aside and step in for this woman and be on her team, whatever.
but for you to go from being so against her if she was guilty if all of this was true
being completely out on her you can't be friends with her to then flip-flop and have no real
opinion about a period you can still feel for her and help her through like a traumatic time
and a traumatic event and relate to her you can put your feelings aside there is a middle ground
there is a middle ground but for you to completely do a 180 and say one of the most outrageous
sentences I've ever fucking heard
I always root for the
underdog. The underdog here
is the fucking victims, dude.
It's not Jen Shaw. She's not
the underdog. She was the overdog and she
stepped too far and fucked herself over.
Like, overdog. Because
you cannot sit there and say, I'm rooting for the underdog.
You're really rooting for this woman? How?
Let her go and serve her time. And when she gets out
and pays her debt to society and pays all those people back,
then you can root for her. Then you can say, hey, I hope
you get back up on your feet someday because you're in a $15 million hole.
But until that happens, you're not rooting for the underdog.
You're sending the underdog to prison.
Yeah.
And I'm so glad this is the last time that I have to rent to Brach and Chach.
Wasn't that a cartoon overdog?
Wonderdog.
Wonderdog.
Maybe I'm thinking of the underpants.
Captain underpants?
Captain underpants.
I mean, I'm merging two together.
And I tend to do that.
Captain Underdog.
Captain Underdog.
Oh, yeah.
And did you notice who was very, very, very quiet about sent.
potentially sending Jen Shaw money.
And I think Heather slipped up when she said, yeah, I didn't send her any money when she was asking for money.
She said, I couldn't do that to my family.
What do you, what does that mean?
I don't know.
But she did say there were some people on this couch that did send money.
And then Meredith had a face.
And then she goes, no, no, I meant Angie Harrington.
Oh, you think that.
And then Meredith didn't clarify that she did not send money.
Interesting.
So I do wonder if Heather fucked up once again.
She didn't get the memo on.
on the special K, and now she didn't get the memo on this.
But isn't it very odd?
And I do like that Whitney and Lisa on the other end completely understood that right
away, that Chris and Angie Harrington sent money to Jen, and then all of a sudden
the shot exposed thing went away.
Oh, yeah.
Guilty, whatever, guilty conscience on Chris Harrington, the fat elf on a shelf husband,
sending money to Jen, and then magically, like, everything goes away and everything's forgiven.
What do you think about Sharif?
Do you, because I...
I was actually surprised they brought it up on the reunion.
So am I.
I'm surprised that they made that public like that.
I wonder if he's going to lose this job.
I mean, we don't like to talk about stuff like that,
but, I mean, it's very public.
It's super public.
Very damning.
Look, I think that it's obviously a touchy subject, right?
Like, it's something that I don't even really want to speculate on on you.
because I don't know.
I mean, I do think that obviously
it would be crazy to think
that he knew nothing about it.
I think that it's hard to say
that he wasn't at least inquisitive
as to where all this money was coming from,
especially him being an attorney
as far as how much he knew.
And I'm curious how much was brought to light
that maybe, here's what I think.
All right, it just clicked.
If he did not know, okay,
or if he had inklings, maybe,
I think reading through all the court files,
maybe at some point he went, fuck, that implicates me.
Yeah.
And went to her and was like, look, not only is this going to cost us money that we don't have, this is damning.
Yeah.
We got the boys.
Like, we need to talk about this.
Like, that would make sense to me.
If that did happen, I'm not saying it did or not.
I think that's probably what the plea deal was, and that's why she flipped.
Maybe.
And we could speculate on this for days, but that makes a lot of sense where it really comes down to,
do you want your children to grow up with both of their parents in prison?
I mean, obviously, Sharif would take a lighter sentence.
But even if he's gone for a year, what are you going to do?
You're going to have your kids go live with somebody else.
Like, no.
So here, we'll give you six and a half years instead of, you know, four and a half.
But Sharif gets to stay out of it.
Yeah.
That could make sense.
It could make sense.
And I think that's the best way to put it.
You don't know what the fuck happened.
I'm not saying one way or the other.
I'm saying if that did happen, that's...
I think we're going to have to take the bar.
I'm not taking the bar.
Oh, so we can actually be...
Yeah.
So then when people comment, we can be like, fuck you.
All right.
Well, I'll...
You go past the bar and then you can talk to me.
I will speculate on one thing.
Okay.
I will speculate on one thing.
And again, this is purely speculation.
This holds no weight whatsoever.
Here's what I think with the left couch, all right, with Meredith and Heather.
Because all I got to see tonight was both of them not being able to answer questions,
going with the I don't remember defense or the I don't know defense or the I never said that,
even though we know they said that.
I think that Jen gave them money.
And I think that that money was put into their businesses in some way, shape, or form.
And I think that they are aware that they accepted stolen funds.
I don't think they knew at the time.
I think that they also both seemed aware that some sketchy shit was going on.
So I think that they turned a blind eye to what was happening.
And I think that they possibly got a handout.
They use that money into their businesses.
And if they slip up or if they throw Jen under the bus,
Jen's got that ammo.
She's sitting waiting to go to prison.
Maybe she has a bad day, wants to throw that out there in the world,
and fuck them both over.
Honestly, I feel like Jen would probably do that immediately anyway.
I don't put anything past her.
She robbed millions from elderly people.
It's horrible.
I can see her being like, I'm not the only one going down.
I gave these two money.
Yeah.
So I think that would make the most sense.
Time to speculate.
Again, this is the speculation station.
I got my tinfoil hat on.
Not saying it did or did not happen.
I'm just saying that would make sense.
I would make a lot of sense.
Certainly would.
That takes us to the question portion from Coco Nuzzo.
Is Angie H's money to Jen a way to come back as a housewife or to forgive Chris?
Go birds.
That's actually on there.
That is actually on there?
Yeah.
Okay, cool.
I think it's just forgive Chris.
I think it's, like I said,
I think it's a guilty conscience on Chris's part
because Heather made a point
to say Chris like three or four times.
So I think he gave the money.
He felt bad about the shot exposed,
even though he used it to make fun of Lisa,
but whatever, it's fucking annoying.
Yeah, so the latter.
I agree.
From Carla Carlita,
do you think Robin should be fired
for her Patreon fiasco?
It depends if Bravo gets a cut
or if Bravo okayed it, I guess.
I don't know.
Hopefully Bravo didn't okay
because I don't want
Like I said
I don't want to go down that path
I can't imagine they did
That would make no sense
I don't think it's a fireable offense
I just think it's like
It definitely warrants a warning
of some kind
Now Potomac does have too many housewives
So I don't know
Between that
It would break up the green-eyed bandits
Which probably wouldn't be a bad thing
It'd be interesting to see Giselle
Without a partner in crime
I think that between that
and the case that Juan Dixon is named in,
I think between those two things,
they might step back,
whether it's of their own free will
or maybe Bravo asks them to step away for at least a season.
That's what I think.
Yeah, I can see that.
From not Courtney stage,
who do you think would win in a fight
the Jersey husbands or the Salt Lake City husbands?
Well, the Salt Lake City husbands are made of metal,
and metal is typically very hard to break down.
Yeah, because they are robots.
So I don't think...
Although Justin's not.
No, Justin's not a robot.
Justin, I like Justin.
I like Justin.
But I...
Jolly dude.
First of all, the Jersey husbands are from the Northeast,
so they can definitely throw hands.
Second,
I think it would be a fair fight.
Robot versus a bunch of Jersey meatheads.
I think that that's a fair fight.
I think that comes on after Celebrity Death Match on MTV.
Jersey versus Salt Lake.
That's him.
Ah, from Clelly M. Makes a very good point.
Has Meredith ever been anything but monotone?
About anything?
No, that's, you can go back to minute 54 to hear my Meredith impression.
Very monotone.
From Rebecca Tad, if you could watch the Super Bowl with any housewife, who would you pick?
Go birds.
Hashtag Go Birds on that one.
Fuck.
That's a tough one.
because you've got to pick somebody
who's not going to take away from the game
be annoying.
I'm going to say Garsell.
She just posted the Go Birds thing last week.
Ah, good point.
Good point.
You're going to pick somebody different.
You can't piggyback.
All right, settle down.
Piggy back.
I got it.
I'm going to go with either Crystal.
I'm going to go with Crystal
because Crystal's talked some shit
to us this year about football.
Yeah, she's going to go with Crystal.
All right.
Because her team's not even in the Super Bowl.
They didn't make the playoffs.
Nope.
And they don't even have a first round pick.
Sucks.
And for our last question of evening from Charnick 1.
Do you think Ashley and Giselle used Crispy as a distraction to avoid one scandal?
Yeah, we did.
And I did see a couple of reports, and by reports I just mean tweets, that it looks like people, it looks like somebody caught them, them being
uh jazelle robin and ashley and then karen kind of tagging along uh they went out to lunch and
supposedly they've been caught before making their storylines for the season before the season starts
so that's what they think was going on there was the takedown of chris and then you know kind
of going after various other people just to try to deflect away from the whole wand thing but
who the hell knows honestly be a fly on that wall yeah seriously but um but that's all we got
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It will drop probably next week at some point.
It's something that you're going to want to hear in regards to Potomac.
It's somebody that's taken center stage unwillingly this season,
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I'm Amy Nicholson, the film critic for the LA Times.
And I'm Paul Shear, an actor, writer, and director.
You might know me from The League, Veep, or my non-eligible for Academy Award role in Twisters.
We love movies, and we come at them from different perspectives.
Yeah, like, Amy thinks that, you know, Joe Pesci was miscast in Goodfellas, and I don't.
He's too old.
Let's not forget that Paul thinks that dude too is overrated.
It is.
Anyway, despite this, we come together to host Unspooled, a podcast
We talk about good movies, critical hits.
Fan favorites, musts season, and case you miss them.
We're talking Parasite the Home Alone.
From Greece to the Dark Night.
We've done deep dives on popcorn flicks.
We've talked about why Independence Day deserves a second look.
And we've talked about horror movies,
some that you've never even heard of like Ganges and Hess.
So if you love movies like we do,
come along on our cinematic adventure.
Listen to Unspooled wherever you get your podcast.
And don't forget to hit the follow button.
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