Bros & Shows - Minions Vs. Kenny (And Please, Enough Kyle/Amanda Stuff) In The City S1 Reunion Part 1

Episode Date: July 23, 2026

What's up bros? We have our first ever In The City Reunion and here we are still talking about West and Amanda. ENOUGH! We're so over this crap and we're not getting any real new information from any of this so can we please just leave it and move on because there is real stuff to talk about with this cast. The minions are minioning and Kenny's girlfriend might not be cut out for reality TV even though it might seem like she might be doing this to be on TV so we don't really know guys. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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it's going to be a nice day. I'm so fucking over it, and I'm like, if I could have fast forwarded past all of that. Like, this is the aftermath aftermath. That's all this was. The first like 25.

The aftermath. Yeah. The first. And then look, they didn't even ask good questions. Like, we got some bullshit during the aftermath. You would think,

Maybe we ask more questions about that bullshit that transpired that we all tuned into. Now, we got one question. How did you feel, Amanda, about watching that conversation between Kyle and West? She didn't even answer the damn question. And then there was no follow-up when we moved on. I'm so done with it. Go away. I need Amanda off the show.

I thought maybe I could talk myself into her coming into the show and maybe just kind of being a different aspect of the show. No, all we're going to talk about is West and Amanda for the next six years if she's on the show. As there's a drive in a deep left field by Castellanos, it will be a... Oh man, it's 8 o'clock. And so that'll make it a... I don't need the spotlight. I shine just fine. Hi, I'm karma.

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The one and only in my... goots, in your goots, in the goods. In everybody's goods. In all of your goods. Where are my good sexuals at? That's T-shirt. That's a T-shirt. Yeah, we talked about it at the cold opening. The first like 20

minutes of this reunion was fucking bullshit. It was so stupid. Until we get into the Lindsay stuff, like, it's only two parts from what I understand. I believe it is. anyway, which would give us an even... Well, they got the rookie reunion in the clubhouse. Which, look, I actually, I want to give

props to the production crew. I agree. It felt like an old reunion. This felt like I was watching like season six reunion of O.C. It had the cool... Yeah, yeah, maybe like the first season of Summerhouse. Like, it was the flash panels, like, in between, like, coming up.

It was very retro. I don't know why they decided to do that. I'm not complaining about it at all. Is everyone the cast is old? And we're old. Yeah, we're old. Yeah, maybe that's what this. I don't know. It was very appealing.

It was very, it was, I don't know. I really enjoyed all of it. But yeah, they get the clubhouse at it. They get the new VPR reunion set up where they're like, kind of like sitting behind each other. But it doesn't really make any sense because you've got Kenny over here and then Whitney's kind of like back there. If they want to hold hands, they have to like kind of turn around to do this. Georgina and Lindsay are lined up perfectly. half the people didn't even fucking talk.

I mean, we didn't, there's not a peep out of Owen. You know, Danielle actually made some good points, bizarre. Didn't see that coming. You were a Danielle stand now. Well,

you know what it is is Lindsay's been pissing me off. And Lindsay does a very good job of being a very good reality TV star. I really appreciate what it brings to the game. But when I'm on the other side of what I think is right, and Lindsay is going so hard at something, it gets under my skin. There's just nothing I can do. And the only way I can get under her skin is by supporting Danielle.

And, well, that sucks too. I don't know. Turning into a person I don't like anymore. But yeah, it was like five people talked at this reunion. Can we, I know, like, we have to check in with Lexi and Andrea. They're nice people. I don't know if they're going to last on this show. I don't know how you feel about it.

I think that you like, they need to understand their role, I think. And like, let them be that. That's fine. If they are filler and they are the supporting cast and they're both beautiful people and they're there to have some fun and just be supporting characters, great. Awesome. But when we get to the reunion, it's like, all right, well, I don't even know if they need to be out there the whole time. You can pull them in for the Kenny Whitney thing because Lexi's the one that popped it off. But like, you know, and I think that I love Andrea, right?

And I actually really like Black C too. But as far as what they bring to this show, I don't know if they know what they bring to this show. And it almost felt to me that like, and correct me if I'm wrong, but it feels like their life is so great together and they love each other so much and they're going down the right path.

They're having a kid, like all of the good things. It's almost like they don't want to fuck their life up. So they're not getting involved. That's the vibe I get. It might be that. I mean, I'm definitely not going to fall.

you for thinking that. I think it's even deeper than that. I think they're just good people. I genuinely I think it's just, it's a weird happenstance that Andrea popped up on Summerhouse. He came out of nowhere. He was very nice. He was doing things that you might be able

to perceive as like, all right, he's flirting with this girl, he's flirt with that girl. But everybody was really reacting nicely to him. And he was just a nice guy. And then you get his life partner, his wife on here. And she's very nice. And now they're going to have a kid that's also very nice. They just don't really fit the mold of

normal reality TV. I don't want to say they don't fit the show because I think the show is yeah like this isn't the valley which you know we're going to have to talk about tomorrow I haven't even fucking watch it. It's more just like there's like a very big central force on this show and I think that's

going to be the big talking point obviously as it is when we get into the reunion and then once you get to the outskirts it's like oh yeah you're here like Nick right like you know like Avon's like doing a lot of things but mostly it's you know, echoing what Lindsay's saying anyway. And then you get to Nick and you're like, oh, yeah, Nick's on this show. I forgot about that.

I almost turned it off almost instantly because when they're going through everybody, they didn't ask Katie DeLuca how her season was. And I'm like, okay, yeah, cool. We're doing that. Was Katie there? No, dude, I'm messing. I was like, what the fuck? I wouldn't be surprised if she was in the back somewhere.

I would love her. You know how Andy's been doing that stick recently where he's like, oh, yeah, and we've got the mortician from like Miami that's coming out. Oh, do Katie to Luca, but actually have her there. do the Katie Toluca thing, but actually have her out. And then I want to get all of her thoughts because I do think. And this is actually, this is. Oh, God.

No, like, this is not satire at all. I genuinely do want to ask her a couple of questions. Like, I want to know what she's big. She's been brought up a lot. Amanda brings her up. And she got brought up like five times at the summer house reunion. She gets brought up in this. Like, let's talk to Katie DeLuca and see how.

he feels but we might instantly regret that based on what she actually answers but i feel like we at least owe it to ourselves to kind of you know turn over that rock right one-on-one interview andy cohen katie deluca let's get to the bottom of this me one-on-one with me katie slucus sure wait i like that even more i thought you meant just generally speaking we didn't know i'll make great for that yeah i will start badgering her from the the brafros account i'll just dm her every day hey what's up We'd love to have you on. Hey, Shooter would love to interview you.

We'll see how that goes. Our lowest rated episode of all the time. It might. If we capture the right audience, which I like to think that our audience gets us, they would understand our humor in it. And they would listen to it. It would scratch an itch that I've had for a very long time.

If we could just do that. It would be great. That would be up for us episode. That would do stuff for us. We'd be happy. Yeah. We need to start doing that. We do enough for you.

guys. We have to fucking cover Valley, OC, Beverly Hills every goddamn year. Let us do something for us

this. Yeah. Which is Katie DeLuca one-on-one interview with shooter and Katie Dulc.

I'm not even saying like, hey, Steele and I are going to get up Monday mornings and recap the Eagles game and you

all have to listen to it. That would be too far. It's still in the realm, right? I agree. I like it. Oh,

we'll see if we can make that happen for you. But is it still the cold open? No, in your goods. Oh, no. Yeah.

Jesus Christ, we're really rambling. Second episode. Yeah, second episode that I bear with us. Look, this show's good, all right? And it's got legs, and I think that we are on the right track. I think we're finding out who our heavy hitters are. I think we're seeing a lot of the cast members figure out how to do this. To your point, though, you're seeing a lot of cast members that do not know how to do it.

And that's where I'm a little nervous about not the show. I think the show is going to be just fine. I think we have a good show here that's very easy plug and playable, more so even than the Valley, because the Valley, we get irritated because they're shoehorning in VPR. In the city, they're going to be able to bring people in that we want to see. Carl, instantly, they have another cast member next year.

You can go back into that summer house fault and find people that we liked. You can bring back some randoms. You can have a page cameo, probably can't afford her, but you can try. But my point is, with, the ability to plug and play like they're going to have. Longevity is the question for Alexi and and Andrea. For a Nick, not an Yvonne,

but could Nick fall into a friend of or we see him when Yvonne's around? Quite possibly. But that could create some weird things like within the show's dynamics. So I don't know. But I do understand what you're saying just to kind of build on the Andrea Lexi thing.

There's a few people on this cast where you're like, what do you do here? what's your role on this show? Yeah, yeah. And if you're wondering why we haven't exactly started discussing the reunion, it's because it was all about pretty much like, we're trying to avoid the after after. But like the Amanda Kyle stuff and just that like we can touch on it for a few minutes.

Did we get anything new? No. Like it was really just. You know, while you're going through the notes. Yeah, look at that. It took you two seconds because even watching it, like you know while even somebody who's taking notes. you're watching, you're like, all right, that's not new.

That's not new. Amanda starts talking about like whether or not she was on beta blockers. And she's like, yeah, actually, I was, but it didn't affect it. It's like, that's not why I was disengaged. Yeah, sure. All right, good. That's, that's not exactly the right answer. But like, it was just, it was bizarre.

And we know it was bizarre. We know it's going to continue to be bizarre. The two of them supporting each other, hooking up with, well, kind of her supporting Kyle, hooking up with other people, that two of them talking about Kyle having stored us, but we know that they haven't had sex in like four or five years or whatever it was. So like, why is that a thing that we're just all kind of joking around about? Like, it's got to be such a weird issue for everybody else on that stage. Like, oh, yeah, I don't

really want to fucking touch this. But we have to go through it because you have to constantly get the updates. And they start the whole reunion with June 22nd. I don't know if that's because they want us to know that it happened less than a month ago or because we're still doing the Weston Amanda timeline. I think it's the latter personally. And it's bullshit. There's no new information. I don't care if Amanda and West are quote unquote still together. I don't care if it was an olive pick getting spit in the West mouth. We know that. We make a joke about it almost every episode.

We did just do Atlanta and we didn't say it once. Didn't say spit in my mouth and tell me it's raining. There it is. This we have to. This we have to say it. But I think we might be healing from the whole thing. I think I speak for the majority of the Bravo fanhood. We all just wanted to go away.

Like Amanda is not interesting enough of a person for us to keep getting updates. West is a scumbag. We leave him out in the fucking wild and he's just going to cheat on Amanda anyway. it'll be fun to get it already allegedly yeah it'll be fun when that gets confirmed and it's popping off on threads or twitter that's going to be a fun hey it'll it'll be fun just like it goes full circle it's like okay okay but then we're immediately going to have the existential dread because we're going to have to watch the fallout on in the city with amanda it's just it's a never-ending cycle and i think we're all done with it yeah and like going through this first package of west and amanda

it sucks because what it really does is again we're giving Amanda a platform to try and explain herself to try and dig her way out of the hole that she dug and she's like yeah you know I hate that I got defensive but that's what I do and she leans on you know her past and like mental health stuff like I disengaged like I check out I don't address things I got defensive and it has nothing to do with the drugs I took that makes no fucking sense you can't say I took beta blockers but they didn't work I was just disengaged because because I'm me. That's convenient. No, officer, I didn't get in a car accident because I'm high on cocaine. I would have crashed anyway. Like, what are you talking about? I'm just a bad driver.

Yeah, exactly. Like, I'm just a bad driver. Like, what the fuck are we doing here? But like, you know, the little quips we get from the group. And I get why nobody went full throttle. Like, what's the fucking point? But her being like, you know, the whole situation I was wrong. And I can't go back and change it. Georgina's like, you can a little. Like, there's actually a lot of ways to rectify things now, but you will keep leaning into the other side of it where it's like, again, there's this weird love conquers all air about the whole thing that we've had to deal with since day one. But as Andy's asking, like, are you guys in love? It's a weird question to answer. Why is that a weird question to answer? Like, are you or are you not? It doesn't make a lot of

fucking sense. And don't you dare sit there and try to play the victim card of like, we don't really go out much. Good. You shouldn't because you went out in the midst of like, the bad time and you went to a fucking baseball game and made out in front of everyone's face. You guys had no cooth. It was so so uncouth that like I don't want you to go out. I don't want you to have fun. I want this madness to end. And the more we do this whole thing, now she gets to sit there and go, I'm disappointed in my

performance. I want to provide more clarity. I went into defense more. It's a natural instinct. Like fuck off. And like Nick was actually jumped in in a good way here. He's like, West. 10 times

the shit that Kyle does that you didn't like with Kyle. And she's like, yeah. And now Kyle gets dragged. He's like, well, I get so much more support things from West that Kyle never gave. Never gave.

And then Kyle has to point out once again, like, okay, he lists things of supporting. He's still supporting you. This is such a dysfunctional, unhealthy relationship you currently have. And that's because Kyle wants to take care of you and support you. And then you say, well, no, he did.

but like of late recently it's like fuck you bullshit i'm calling bullshit like it should and i really hope it is just the last nail in the coffin of their whole relationship like i don't want to talk about their marriage anymore when she says like you know towards the end of the the relationship while we were still together i was mourning it already so i think what it was done i just didn't really have those feelings anymore and we're talking about kyle and whether or not he's feeling it which i think is actually kind of an interesting situation to talk about but kyle's not really going to go deep into it and Kyle probably also doesn't really understand what's going on because he's still so in it. He's still so in their relationship. He's still setting things up and Amanda even said like,

oh yeah, the one time I came over there was a bra there. It's like, why are you still going to his fucking apartment? That's bizarre. So like the whole thing is just very weird. Kyle's approach to it is very weird. They're then making jokes about who Kyle's hooking up with and how he's hooking up with them. And then it's been five minutes and 10 minutes talking about him hooking up with Sally Carson. I don't care. That was like plug for their podcast. When we brought up the fact that Lala reached out and said, oh yeah, I heard that Kyle's actually really good at sex. And then they say it's because her and Sally Carson did a podcast. I'm like, oh, so cool. Now we're marketing a podcast. That's what we're doing now. The whole thing was just so fruitless

and just like so pointless. I know we had to get through it. I was so disheartened. And I know obviously, you know, the show, the way the show goes, we're going to keep talking about Kyle and Amanda. But at the end of the whole segment when Andy says, we'll get back to Kyle and Amanda's marriage. I don't want to. Let's not. We don't have to. And like, what bothers me the most is during this whole thing is like the delusional

balls that this woman has. Like, as we're going through single Kyle, you know, she's making jokes. And why every single time, every single time that we bring up something that Amanda did, where it was out of pocket and that was pretty

fucked up what you did? She's like, well, it's not betraying Kyle. It is his betray. You didn't cheat on him fine. Maybe, by the way. But your timeline again doesn't make any fucking sense. Kyle made out with somebody way before I started texting West. No, he didn't. No, he fucking didn't. That's not true. We know you guys were texting before February. And that's when Kyle made out with Sally. But why every single time, every single time there's a gotcha moment for Amanda where it's like, this is fucked up that you did that. She always has a fucking counter. It's Always, well, Kyle did this.

It's like, stop it. That does not, we know. And that's like the worst part for Amanda. We are all aware of who Kyle is as a person, right? Good dude, bad husband. We've watched it for years. We've said that for years. So you trying to then take moments throughout this whole debacle that you did.

You caused all of this nonsense. Yes, Kyle made out with Sally. Yes, Kyle made out with Megan King. we don't give two fucks, nor do we care when that was. Because as you said, your whole entire claim to this whole thing is like, I didn't cheat on Kyle.

It's so annoying and just short-sighted, and she just tries to find ways to wiggle out, try to make herself look better. I know you feel it. I know you feel this redemption art that they're fucking setting up, and Kyle's going to be a part of it. Yeah, he is.

Yeah, Lindsay's going to spearhead it, but Kyle's going to be a part of it. I just, I try to do like a little, uh, training exercise, a little learning exercise to see how I would feel. If Amanda had come in like full hat and hands, like, you know what? I, I did terribly at that reunion. I feel really bad. I feel really bad for Kyle. I want to apologize to him.

I still don't think I would give a shit. I don't care. It wouldn't talk about it matter. It's too late. Like this has been going on for so long. I know it's, you know, actually, it's really been going on for about four months now. And we've had so much content to discuss it and read about it. and hear people tweeting about it.

All of the things have died down. No one really gives a shit anymore. No one cares at all. So the fact that now we're starting off, which was a very good season of In the City, and it's the first season, we're starting off 20 minutes just talking about Kyle, Amanda, and West.

Like, we're done. Like, we're full. We've had enough. We're good. We can move on and actually talk about the things that happen. Because once we start digging into it, there's a lot going on that we need to discuss. There has been a lot going on in the interim

when the show stopped filming. I know that a lot of that is going be Kyle and Amanda centric, but there's ways to splinter off of that and make this a good reunion. And again, I know you just have to check the box. Like, all right, we talked about West and Amanda. Cool. We should move on. We should be done with it.

And I know we're going to circle back. And that's what the, I feel like the most disheartening thing is when we're watching this. Yeah, dude, it ends like this whole package ends with the la la la heard on good authority that Kyle's great in bed. And Amanda, how would she know that? Who's saying it fucking Sally said it. Sally said it. Stop doing what you're doing.

Like, it's just your plan. didn't work. You had a whole plan, season one of In the City to make Kyle out to be even more of a monster than we already thought he was so that you could walk away from this thing and get the Ariana at it. We know what your plan was. It fucking failed. So here at the reunion, trying to clean it up a little bit, is so aggravating, unnecessary.

And you're right. It kicks off the first episode of the first season of this show, which was a good season. And we kick it off with this shit. I don't fucking care, dude. I don't care. Half of the episode was spent on doing this. And then we finally shift to Lindsay. But now I'm so irritated.

I'm like, I don't really care now. But you do that. When you start us off with that, I lose interest. Yes. That is definitely what happens. And again,

we want to check in with Lindsay. And this was so funny too, because I feel like this is the first time. We've been kind of rant and raving. All right, this is good. We've got a good crew going on here. Once we get into like the thick of this episode,

and all the things that happened in this reunion. This is the first time that I had the thought, okay, maybe giving Lindsay a little too much power was a bad move. Maybe we're doing a little too much here. We might want to even it out a little bit. I think Kenny had a stellar performance. I think that when you look back and look at all of the things that he did, and again, I'm not saying like he's a great dude or anything.

I'm saying for reality TV, all the things that he did this season, Whitney's going to have to get thicker skin because she's going to have to bear a cross for certain things. I know she stepped in it towards the end of the season, but she's going to get deflections from Kenny because Kenny's going to be asking for it, but he's a great reality TV guy. There's just too much going on on the other side of the room.

I have questions about Whitney. You just, yeah, Whitney's a little, you know, I don't know what the fuck's going on there. But with them, like, we're trying to get through this. And even when we start getting into it, everything just takes a turn.

And that's when Lindsay's able to just keep going. And I know we all love an activated Lindsay. I like it in certain situations. at a reunion when it's pretty even and we're just trying to figure out how everybody feels, we shouldn't be able to hear Lindsay a million times. Like we should be able to check in with other people. So this is the first time that I had that thought this whole season.

No, I agree. And it does give a lot more credence to the minion comment, right? And I will give Amanda credit when she says later. That was kind of funny. I do like her pettiness. She knows it's, yeah. She knows that, yeah. And that's why she's a great reality TV star.

But like Amanda saying, when one of you three has asked a question or Lindsay's asked a question, let one of you three answer. And I will say like, yeah, it doesn't look great for your guys' argument that every time Lindsay's pressed, you got Georgina coming off the top rope, literally, Yvonne comes in from the side, and then somebody else would jump in and be like, whoa, whoa, it's like, she can handle it. And I know she knows she can handle herself. Like I'm not questioning Lindsay here, but it doesn't help those guys out in this argument of you guys just a lobby for Lindsay no matter what's going on.

And, you know, we're going to jump around with this one just because really all we get to, we get some baby check-ins. You know, I thought the advice for Yvonne was awesome, you know, give yourself some grace. We need a minute, take a minute, which is, I think, one of the best ones, personally, like crying, a crying baby, you can let her cry for another 30 seconds if you have to get something done right beforehand. You're not a bad parent if you need to. So I thought that was a great tip.

and do what's best for you and for your baby and you know best because your mom. All of that, I really liked. I enjoyed that. But it gets to the Kenny and Whitney stuff and the spark conversation. I love that we get,

the more I see Andrea, I'm not running my mouth, the more I enjoy saying it out loud. Yeah, between that and every time that we check in with either him or Lexi, and you even said it, Lexi started the whole Whitney, Lindsay, Georgina thing later.

We didn't really check in with Lexi to say like, Hey, what were you thinking about like going to the rest of the group and saying that? Maybe we will next episode. All we're doing is just going over and asking Andrea and Lexi like how they feel. And it's always just a supportive comment. Like, you know, I just, I think you're doing your best. I think that like I'm just so happy for everybody sitting here.

It looks like everybody's just having a great time. We're all going to have a great future together. And I'm just so excited for what the future brings. Like, okay, cool. Let's get back to the shit. And the first thing that we've ripped the Band-Aid off of is the conversation that Lindsay had in regards to moving without an engagement. Now, this was going to be really telling for me, like how Whitney took it after seeing

the scene. And obviously she's going to be supportive of her boyfriend. And it's them two versus Lindsay and the minions. I do agree. I get both sides. Like I do think that Lindsay was trying to say in her own Lindsay way, like, she's making a big effort here. Don't fuck this up for her sake.

And I believe that's how she felt and I believe it was genuine because Lindsay rides or dies for the ladies. So I appreciate that. At the same time, I understand from Kenny and Whitney's perspective of why are you so fucking invested in this whole thing? And then she's like, well, everyone's telling me you're a fuckboy. It's like, again, I hear you, but you don't know what he's doing or how he's moving. You're not really friends with Kenny. And you're kind of painting this whole thing out. I don't know why you're so invested in this because you and Kenny don't seem that tight.

So like I get both sides of it. Yeah. This one's weird. I don't really know which side I land on because I understand where Lindsay's coming from. I do think that is just her base layer. Yeah. If she's riding for the girls, like that is how she rides for the girls is by questioning dudes.

Like she does have that kind of what Kenny said in the beginning of the season. You do just have this I hate all men vibe going on right now. And I think Lindsay does have that vibe. But I do think this is just what she does. And I don't think she's trying to. you know, dig into Kenny too hard. I do genuinely think that she probably has Whitney's best interest at heart. It's just when she does things, it comes off as a certain thing.

Like, all right, you're way too invested in this. I think that's just Lindsay at base layer. I think that's completely fine. But I don't know where I lay there. And then I feel like when you get further into things when she starts doing it, I'm like, oh, never mind. This does kind of seem like the conversation you had with everybody when you're talking about Owen and his past where you're like, whoa, I was just looking out for you.

I was looking for facts so that I knew what I was talking about. So then I could say it's like, no, no, no, you were definitely talking shit. So now I'm, now you start questioning the other things.

It's like, okay, I don't know which way to go with on this one because I do think at first she had Whitney's back, even though she didn't know Whitney. But I do think that she took a couple of unnecessary hits of Kenny just to do it. I think it's well intentioned, but also self-serving.

Yeah. I think it's somewhere in the middle of that. And like at the end of the day, like, yes, you are a girl's girl. and she is going to stick up for the ladies. And that is what she was doing. But I think when Kenny pissed her off,

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is again, you know, my mom passed away and this 11-year relationship went away, and it's feeling numb to long-term things working out. I believe him. I think he's being honest. I think this is him and his own weird way of coping with things. I think, again, when we go back and look at the scene, it's like, you can. have your process and I respect your process you're going through what you're going through absolutely it's kind of nuts to say about the woman that just moved across the country

that you're not sure if there's a spark on camera yeah yeah he was backpedaling I mean we watched it the entire season he was back pedaling he tried to blame he was pretty much blaming everybody except for himself he never really took the accountability of like all right I understand yeah that came out wrong I didn't fucking mean

that but maybe I did he's trying to spin it into this I don't know if I have a spark with long-term romance, I guess is probably out. We're going to chalk it up. This was just stupid. It was wrong. This is where Kenny should have just been like, yeah, I don't know. I fucking misspoke.

I was scared. I think somebody actually did say in. I think Kyle said it. It's like you were scared. Like, just say that you were scared because he was. And that's genuinely fine. Like if that's how you feel, I do feel like this is where it starts flip flopping back and forth, though.

Because while Kenny's trying to explain it, and I do think he's being true. or at least as truthful as he can be without hurting with these feelings and without like really digging too far into his own psyche which i don't think he's going to do i think he wants to being i think he was being truthful and like i got scared i didn't know i had a hard time with long-term relationships my mom just passed away i was all over the fucking place i didn't know where i was but while he's trying to get through it the other side of the room is just calling bullshit on everything he's saying i'm like let him fucking get it out just let him get it out if you don't agree with it or you think he's deflecting, then say it afterwards.

But it's just going to piss everybody off if you guys keep talking over him and saying that everything he's saying is bullshit because I'm watching it. I'm like, no, it does make sense. And I think if you look into it, it's like, okay, that's cool. That's one of those things that you can just push to Kenny and Whitney. Like, okay, Whitney has now heard him say this on the show. She's now hearing him say it again. Whitney, how do you feel about that?

Okay, you're good. That's a supportive relationship. We can move forward with it. Instead, it's like, all right, we have to pick apart everything that Kenny says. That's where it gets annoying, especially in a reunion setting where there's fucking 12 people up there, 15 people up there. Enough. Like, there has to be a cutoff.

There has to be a mute button on certain people or we're never going to get anywhere. And it's just, it's really frustrating to watch. Yeah. And that's what gives more ammo to Kenny and Whitney to be like, see, this is what I'm talking about. If it's me versus you, it's me versus all of you. And that's not fair. Now, one thing that Kenny does that Whitney does not. that I think bodes well for Kenny,

I think it's going to lead to trouble for Whitney. Kenny can take a hit and make a joke afterwards. Him and Lindsay will go tit for tat, and I think that's kind of their relationship now, which I actually very much like. I think they are going to be the cornerstones of this show in a lot of ways

because of their back and forth relationship. Like they are on the same page. I think they understand each other. They're kind of different, and they both will take shots at one another. But as soon as, it's kind of squashed. It's like, here's a minion joke.

Yeah, it's fine. We're good. No big deal. Whitney doesn't have that. Oh, it's all good kind of deal. And the more that she got questioned, the more I was like, ew, I don't know about you. I don't know. And I never thought about the Jasmine thing much until this episode.

I'm like, are you here to be famous? Yeah, I don't know. They tried to say like, yeah, we started dating before. But if she knew that Kenny was. friends with Kyle, maybe there was a different way in there. Like, I could definitely see that. I don't think that there's really enough facts to go off of. I don't think there's a good enough timeline to go off of.

But you could definitely convince me that she's just doing this to get famous. She's doing this to be on TV. But the problem is you're not good on TV. You can't handle anything. And like you said, when Kenny and Lindsay are going back and forth, I mean, they had it out for the first couple episodes. They were able to really, really bond over things towards the end of the season, And even to the point where Lindsay says, hey, when I was watching you reconnect with your dad,

I cried. And we know that Lindsay's been crying for six straight months. I mean, she doesn't have any years left. Six months straight turned off her comments. Doesn't want any feedback on that one. Thanks, West and Amanda for getting her to stop crying. Yeah. Yeah.

But that back and forth relationship is great. And that is what makes Kenny great. That's what makes Lindsay great is being able to do that. That is what you want. That is a huge attribute that you want on a good TV show and a good reality TV show. when Whitney starts up, like, we've identified this.

I know Georgina and Lindsay are going off about this whole single mom comment. This shouldn't really be that big of a deal. Now, again, Lindsay's been crying for six months.

She almost threw up last night when she was watching it. I don't really understand how that works with the timeline. But the way Whitney was answering, even just the simplest question, like, are you good with Kenny?

She doesn't have an answer. It's like, spit it out. Get there. Yes. I don't know. You've been on this show I know you had a hard time in the beginning of the show,

but like you have to be able to just be a person and answer questions at some point. I don't know which way you're going to go. You seem like you might just melt down and start crying right now. And we saw that when they were up in Connecticut too, and she got pressed about it. But this is very easy. And if you're going after Lindsay,

I know that she is something. She's a bit of a force. I know that you look at her and she's very intimidating. She is suspect number one for we'll get over it pretty quickly. It could be a thing. where you can just have a good enough answer and apologize, and you'll be fine. You can just move on.

It's very simple. And if you can't get over it with Lindsay, she's not going to be able to face anybody else. She's not going to be able to face any conflict on the show. No, she's not going to be able to handle anything. And we'll talk more about her shortly. I do want to just clean up the Gavin stuff real quick because Gavin, again, calling Whitney boring and all of his weird shenanigans this entire season.

Again, if we've learned anything about Gavin, It's that he has no self-awareness. And what he thinks he's doing is good for the whole group. That's his intention because he's like, I didn't call her, I didn't call her boring. So the relationship's boring. It's like, no, you called her boring because you looked at her and he said, that's boring in regards to what she was bringing to the table. I agree that he's probably used to toxic shit in his own relationship and in Kenny's relationship. I also agree, he has a big old man crush on Kenny.

And he doesn't like that Whitney's taking his friend away. and he's lashing out like a toddler because he's watching everyone in this show step into the next phase of their life and he's hanging out at the bars that he owns so i think that's the root of all of this shit yeah it's absolutely the root of all of this shit i mean it's clear as day it is so clear he's doing a weird thing now where he's agreeing with pretty much everybody he's agreeing with lindsay but he's also agreeing with kenny and he's trying to get through to kenny that everything's going to be okay now there's a thing going on on threads where Queens Bravo posted something.

And Kenny responded and said, it looks, I feel like the seating chart should have just shown Gavin sitting on Lindsay's lap. Now Lindsay and Gavin are taking pictures with Gavin sitting on Lindsay's lap. So it is all funny at the end of the day. And I think it's going to be fine moving forward. And again, Gavin is already classified as a necessary evil. I just need him to clean up some of the stuff.

Yeah. Some of it is way too inconsistent. And it's a little frustrating when it gets inconsistent. But I think that, again, we've already given our flowers to Lindsay and Kenny, both of them are very easy to get back in their good graces pretty quickly. So I think it'll be fine at the end of the day. It's just tough to get through this. And I know we're going to have more Gavin stuff to get through at some point.

It's going to be tough to get through if he doesn't really just have a clear path to get there. I agree. And, you know, the thing with Kenny and the rest of the group, I will chalk it up to, you know, he was like I was defensive from day one out of the gate. I was defensive. So I made comments about Yvonne. I made comments about other people in the group. No, I didn't know you guys. it was because I was playing defense and that I can like that's fine it's the first season and

you were under the gun pretty quickly granted it was your fault for saying stupid shit but but he yeah and we can chalk it up to just defensive mode but the Lindsay and the minions thing that that's hard to defend against because if you really look at it especially I mean just watch this reunion play out it's like this is what we're talking about guys. you know, Danielle jumps in and she's like, you know, you said what I hung out with you, that Lindsay is okay. So in regards to we on, I believe. She literally said, I can hang out with you because Lindsay's okay with you.

So it's like, again, not helping your argument. That was a nice, nice little input by Danielle there. And like Lindsay being like, if anything, I'm the minute. I'm like, okay, enough. Yeah, we were. Once she does that, it's like, okay, now we're really just churited out the bullshit. just to try to deflect away from this one. And it's going to work because she has the majority.

Again, a lot of the cast isn't really like interjecting at all. But if it's just her going, her and three other people who were chiving in going against Kenny, it's going to be Lindsay all day because he's not going to be able to get a word in edgewise. It was constant, though. It was really constant during all of this. It was really tough to even hear what other people were saying. Like subtitles were even fucked up at one point because Avon's yelling or Georgina or Jordina is yelling at something.

We're trying to figure out what Kenny's trying to say. and like Lindsay's sitting there letting them do that then interjecting and now she's coming back and be like I worry about what my friends think of no you don't just never know our mouths telling us that it's raining it's brutal yeah please don't do that but Danielle again jumps in and she's like look it's just it's lonely on the outside to which I have to say like Daniel why are you on the outside yeah let's not play that card now and I do appreciate the fact that Andy asked the question like watching it back though wasn't Danielle right about

pretty much everything she said and we talked about it before it's just the way that Daniel goes about it. She was like scoffing at everything that Lindsay was doing while she was doing it a real friend will pull them aside and say one time are you sure you want to do this and if they say yes

you go okay cool I got you I'll be there to pick up the pieces and I know Lindsay always highlights the confessionals too especially from that last season that Danielle was involved in Summerhouse but you can still go to your confessionals be like, I don't talk to now. I don't have a good feeling about it,

but Lindsay's an adult. She's going to do what she's going to do. Lindsay has a problem with that. You can hash it out. It's not the end of the world. It's the way that Danielle went about it in front of other people and talking to other people about it. So when Danielle said that,

even though she just had a really good point looking around, she's like, this is what we're talking about guys. Like everybody's talking at the same time, but you guys aren't minions of Lindsay. That doesn't really make any sense. Then we go back to Danielle. I'm like,

oh, yeah, no, mind. there's the, there's no awareness that we have. Correct. And, you know, to Lindsay's credit, the Ruppado was great because she was. She was like, I was in the outside and Summerhouse for years. I was like, yes, she really was, especially with the ladies in Summerhouse. Like, she was always the odd man out. So she knows what it's like to be on the outside.

So that was kind of a moot point. But that's what Amanda makes her, we need to listen and learn. So maybe if there's a question and only one of you three answer and can you like, fucking yes. Yeah. Fuck yeah, man. That's the most significant thing. Anybody said the entire time?

All night. But then Kenny does apologize for the minions comment. Lindsay, I'm wearing minion yellow. And that's what I'm talking about. That's the little moment of like, ha, ha, respect, respect. Tiff your cap, let's keep doing this, which we need. But obviously Kenny and his dad comes up. And, you know, again, to the people online that are like, well, do you do this for

the show? Who fucking cares? He's talking to his dad every week now. He's met his half siblings. Like, the result is a beautiful thing. So the means to get there. I could give two shits if he set this up for the show because it rekindled the relationship.

Yeah. So if it took the show to get them back together, that's all you should care about. Not is it nefarious. As deep as it went, and obviously there were a lot of things going on on Instagram, we unsubstantiated rumors that one of his half siblings was reaching out saying he was doing it for the show.

I don't fucking care. It was never confirmed who gives a shit. But Andy just kind of giving a slight nod to that, like, oh, have you reached out to any of your half siblings? Kenny's response, a few of them. Yeah, met a few of them. Just talking to my dad and just, you know, I talk to them every week now. It's really nice.

Cool. Good. I'm glad we didn't dig deeper into that one because I don't care. We talked about it. It was, it's a nice moment. Timing wise, sure, you can say it's suspicious. It doesn't matter. You watch the two of them get back together.

It's like, okay, cool. It seems like they like each other. It seems like they wanted to rekindle this. So let's let them do it. Who cares? Exactly. But finally, we can. get to the main event here, and it's the single bomb card.

Now, this is where I really looked at Whitney. I was like, I don't know what your intentions are. I don't know if I trust or like you because we started out. I'm really sorry to use that term. Watching it back, it's far from the point I was trying to get across. What are you talking about? What other, what could that mean other than you're taking? a dig at the single mom's like it's the entitlement it's the entitlement no it's not because you

doubled and tripled down the single mom thing so it could be entitlement but it's entitlement in regards to being a single mom her entire defense of all of this was terrible it was awful and the way that she apologized i'm sorry you took it the way you did and then she doubles down and says like i'm sorry you took it the way it did and i'm sorry for how it came out it's like the fact that you even said, I'm sorry for how you took it. It's like, no, no, no, dude, you shit the bed. This is a terrible moment. We've talked about it and we've seen stuff online.

Like, yeah, I'm sure that Lindsay plays that card sometimes and I'm sure it gets annoying sometimes. But at the end of the day, as we said, they are two single moms and they are tired. So just give them the fucking room. And also, you are never going to win this fight. It's just a stupid fight to pick because one, it's just, it's a weird thing to say. It's just disrespectful. And two, you have no ground to stand on.

And we talked about this ad nauseum. The minute you bring up the nanny and imply that Lindsay does less than other moms, that Georgina does less than other moms, is gross, misrepresenting and shows your your lack of understanding of the whole situation. And it does, in turn, the funny thing is by blindly defending Kenney. and then having this whole debacle, you really can make an argument for pretty much a male sympathizer. Like you're kind of taking the wrong team here and you kind of look like an idiot.

Yeah, no, she really does. And look, I feel like knowing that Lindsay even said that, Lindsay's thing aside, because when she's like, I almost threw up last night, rewatch it. Yeah. It really feels like that's fucking insane. But if you're Whitney and you've rewatched it, you're like, ah shit like if i didn't say the nanny comment and i just left it at i'm what they're they're

tired moms so like they just get immediate like the privilege to just pick whatever room they want like i don't know if i agree with that why are we not doing this for evan and nick that's fine i have zero fucking problem with that if you want to play that card go for it i don't give a shit like i don't think that that that's super disrespectful i think it's personally towards georgina and lindsay being like, hey, we just ran into the house and we just picked the room. Sorry, guys. We're moms. You can't say a fucking word. Then, yeah, go ahead and be annoyed and make a comment about it.

Once you watch it back and you see the nanny comment, how are you not like, fuck? I'm so sorry. I went too far. I went too far. I, uh, look, I shot myself at the foot. I shouldn't have said that. I think I was maybe just frustrated. I'm not going to make excuses for it.

I apologize. And it would be over. It truly would. Maybe Georgina would have some more things to say. She was getting really fired up about this whole thing. Again, I don't think, short of the nanny comment, I don't think it's that big of a deal. I think they're being babies about it. But I think once the nanny comment comes in, it's like, okay, now you're questioning our parenthood. Now you're questioning our relationship with our kids. Now you're questioning everything about our lives. Okay, what's your answer to that, Whitney? I just, uh, well, uh, is it hot in here? Is it just me?

Is anyone else crying? Everybody's crying right now, right? Like, this is a really sad, no, it's not. Like spit it out. How do you feel about this? What are your answers? Better yet. When you, yeah, I misspoke. Better yet, when you brought up the fact that Lindsay is playing this card a lot and you're tired of it, name one other time that she was so good.

I just, I misspoke when I said that. Yeah, I misspoke. It's like, no, you don't get to do that. You can apologize. You can throw out a blanket statement, full apology with no butt at the end. And then stick by that and let Kenny fight your back. I think that's probably what you should be doing at this point.

But trying to explain it away made no sense. I mean, even explaining it how I just explained, it probably would have made more sense. I shot myself in the foot when I made the nanny comment. I still feel how I felt in the beginning. You guys are being babies about it. That would be cool by me. I would be so fine with that and that means that you might be made with reality TV.

But once you go down this road of trying to explain it away and saying that you misspoke about which part, was it the mom comment? Was it the nanny comment? The double down with the nanny. Or the double down later. I don't understand how you watch that. And we know you probably just watch that within the last couple of days.

How are you not like, fuck? All right. Kenny, how are we going to handle this one? I always love it when people come so underprepared for reunions. And you do something like that that is so black and white. It's like, hey, that was wrong of me. How do I get out of this, Kenny? Can you help me?

All right. So what you're going to do is just apologize. You're just going to say, I'm sorry. I let my emotions get away with me. Whatever. When we start digging into like the semantic. of when Kenny brought it up to the whole group versus getting in the car and going to pay.

I don't care. Who the fuck cares? That's water under the bridge at this point. They stayed in the room. It's not a matter of talking at this point. We don't have to talk about this at all. But with Whitney, what are you doing? Like, you don't have any plan.

And that is one of my favorite tropes about reunions, especially first seasons for reunions or newbies. How are you this underprepared? You just watch the show. How are you not sit there? Like, fuck, how am I going to get out of this one? I'm just not going to do anything. I'm just going to go to sleep.

tonight and just hope it goes well. They're not going to bring it up, right? No one's going to talk about that. That's not going to take that. That is what I got from this. She just looked so unprepared. I'm like, oh, God, you're screwed. You might be done on this show.

There's no way you can move forward. Like, Kenny, you guys might have to break up just for the sake of you staying on this show and her going away. Yeah, she's beat red and crying the entire time. Like, she is so out of place here. And Lindsay hitting her with the, I have a nanny because I work. you complain about the lack of a $30,000 closet your boyfriend didn't provide. I'm out here doing what I'm doing for women everywhere.

Whitney, this response told me she does not belong here. I said I was sorry. Yeah, you did. You sure did, kind of. You know what the thing is, though, that worked when we were in Connecticut. When she said I was sorry, and she said, I'm sorry, I'm really sorry. And then the waterwork started. Lindsay was like, I don't, whatever.

Yeah, it's fine. Virginia still had smoke. but that doesn't really matter as much as Lindsay having spoke Lindsay's like all right whatever it's fine I genuinely think that Whitney was like I what do I apologize though you didn't fucking apologize it was a backhand I'm sorry you took it that way yeah there's no other way to take it like she like it was it was just instant like she can't handle this you're gonna have to get her out of exactly I said I was sorry as Lindsay says you're about 15 more apologies and also you can't hack it you can't hack it and I don't think

you like this is what's so funny is she could be in love with kenny that could be genuine right i never even really thought about the jasmine comment no i watched this episode and i was like maybe i can see it i can see it i do like it look my thing at least moving into the second episode will be watching kenny because kenny's going to defend her obviously but i want to see how he does it and when he starts off like going back at lindsay that's what i want that that is what kenny is therefore because no one else on the show is doing it at least right not right now but going back at lindsay and saying that she's just collecting apologies like she collects souls i don't even know what that means i don't either it sounds comic it sounds fun and it's going to ruffle lindsay's feathers

and then we're going to get into it and i look Whitney can't handle herself so let's just push her away let her just go cry in the backgrounds let kenny fight your battles for you i hope and pray it doesn't turn into a up there goes Kenny again yelling at women though that kind of goes out the door. His girlfriend's involved, but she's incapacitated because she's crying in the corner. Kenny's standing up for his girlfriend. He's asking you to stop, but he's going after you a little bit. It's a reunion for a reality TV show.

That falls in the border of it's okay right now. Do not play that like he's a misogynist. Do not play the all of that bullshit if he's just arguing for his girlfriend. Leave me alone. Oh, well, let's get to some questions. Yeah. AC Roxy 63. Why does Kenny's girlfriend not understand how to apologize?

guys, I'm sorry that you. BS. Yeah, it's so dumb, dude. Yeah, yeah, I have no idea. From B. Reedy 13, 126, these fools are acting like Lake and Michaels and they're in their 40s. Get it together. Well done. Oh, this was great, too. I forgot about this from B-Man, Grandma, 727. Amanda saying, I sounded cringy and creepy.

It did. And then she smiled afterwards. Like she was like, oh, I'm getting out of this because you guys got my back. Lindsay, you got my back? Cool. Like, that's what's happening right now and I hate it. Yeah, same. Fool of a Tuk.

It's 7.31 p.m. And Amanda still sucks. Yeah. Agreed. Get her off our screen. From Meg's Valentine, do you think the Bravo contracts should include watching the damn show pre-reunion? Yeah.

We've said that before. They absolutely should be. I don't understand, like Amanda especially. She's like, I didn't, I get not rewatching the reunion because you, it sucked for you. I find, but you should have to watch the show because there's confessionals. There are scenes that you're not there for. They're talking about you. I don't understand why people don't do it.

A new C-811 hated silent summer house reunion, Mandy, hated Smiley City reunion, Mandy. Guess I just hate Mandy. Yeah, I know. Ryan Stomeman 83. Do you really think that Lindsay cried? and he added an eye roll emoji. No. No.

He cried for six months. I don't think, I don't think Whitney has that much real estate in Lindsay's stuff. Yeah, I think that is a good go back, by the way. When Lindsay says, I've been crying since that comment was made and I almost threw up last night. Somebody should say, really? Whitney's comment?

Sure. You, Lindsay, you've been on, you've been on reality TV for way too long for that to affect you. Yeah, 100%. Yeah. Uh, let's see. Oh, this is going Sakhna L-O-8. I don't want people attacking Kyle in quotes.

Uh, you spent years manipulating people to attack him for you. Yeah. But she doesn't want you now. She wants to talk to Kyle about who he's having sex with. Sober sex. Yeah. Uh, sweet Sarah Penn.

Are we starting to see a Lindsay and Whitney feud for him for the next season? No. That would be a Lindsay and Kenny feud. Yes. By way of Whitney. because Whitney cannot handle it. Yep. From Lindsey Bucks, one.

So we never got the quote unquote, is that a threat pre-up combo or the Bernie Madoff combo from the second, or from the trailer, huh? I hate when Bravo pulls that shit. Yeah. That, yeah, I don't fucking, I don't know.

It's just stupid. From T-GAL now, What are Yvonne and Nick even on the show for? They had nothing and having all season. I get my Yvonne's there. Yeah, it's a first season ensemble cast. Let them kind of grow a little bit because I could make the same argument for Andre and Lexi. Like, yes, they're very nice.

They need space. You can't, you can't make that decision until season two. And if it's like first five episodes and nothing's going on, then we can have those conversations. Mm-hmm. Uh, bu, bu, bu, but, bu, uh, this. This is funny from Rockstar 0521. I can't believe I'm saying this,

but I prefer beta blocker Batula over this brat. Yeah. Jennifer M2M. Is Kyle showing Amanda Grace because of his debauchery during their marriage? Yes. He feels somehow responsible for some of this. So I think he also genuinely cares about her and none of this changed that. But I do think that there's some guilt pushing his support of her.

Yeah. Yeah, yeah, definitely. From Bella G.R. 1985, no question, but Lindsay was a bit much. However, Whitney is definitely not great, right? Yes, I think that is the takeaway. That is a very general takeaway from all of this. Yep, well done. Let's see we got one more in here.

Marissa and Palma asked who stays and who goes next season. We will do that at the end of the next episode. Yeah, we need to see it all the way through. Oh, from It's Sin. Who was the best dressed man at the reunion? Shooter, our fellow fashionista. Oh, man. I mean, Andrea looked great, but he always looks great.

He doesn't count. No, he can wear a trash bag. I think Kyle looked pretty good, honestly. Kyle always looks pretty good. So he doesn't count either. I didn't see Nick because he barely spoke. Owens in the back. I think he's in all black.

Don't care. don't care. Kenny, Kenny's outfit wasn't really doing it for me either. I'm just going to say Kyle. I think Kyle gets it.

I see that. But yeah, I mean, hopefully part two is not, I mean, we're going to talk about Kyle and Amanda

in regards to like the, the standards and guidelines set for Kyle that don't at all match Amanda and why the fuck are we trying to rekindle this whole thing

and at every wake moment that you were near him. You made jokes, tried to run away and shit on him. And yet you're trying to make your marriage work. That doesn't make a lot of fucking sense. In this same episode, you say, I was mourning our relationship while we're still together. Okay, cool. So that means you also weren't trying when you said you were.

And again, we wouldn't have cared if you just fucking ended it. But you can't wait to talk about it more. So excited. Yeah, we're going to have to. Well, it's a good show. let's just remember that. It's a good show. I'm excited for the future of this show. We've got to get through this bullshit. And then hopefully

Amanda's off the show. I don't think that's going to happen. I think we're going to get, especially if Wes cheats. You just did this. No, I know. I was just thinking in my head, I'm like, oh, God, West is going to cheat on her. She's going to be upset.

They're going to have a redemption arc for Amanda after being cheated on. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That'll happen. That's all I got. You got anything else? Nope. I love you. Bye.

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