Bros & Shows - Monica Von(Tea)se: MVP or SuperVillain... OR BOTH?! (RHOSLC Finale Full Recap)

Episode Date: January 3, 2024

What's up Bro's?! What a finale. What a season. Chef's kiss no notes. In this episode we get the long awaited reveal as to what Heather's phone call was about. Turns out that Monica was behind a scandalous instagram account that was spreading harsh rumors about both Jen Shah and the rest of the RHOSLC cast. Monica claims that her involvement was solely to take down Jen Shah... The original 4 come together on the beach (in one of the most iconic scenes ever) to discuss the information that Heather has unearthed and they hatch a plan to take Monica down at dinner. How none of these women cracked or spilled the tea before Heather tore Monica a new one is beyond us. But a perfectly executed plan, a perfectly executed finale and we cannot wait for the reunion! Time Stamps: Intro for Ritchie's Friends' (0:00-9:09) RHOSLC (9:10) This episode is brought to you by Bubly. No sugar, no calories, no guilt, all smiles! Go to Bubly.com to purchase or to find a store near you Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

During the Volvo Fall Experience event, discover exceptional offers and thoughtful design that leaves plenty of room for autumn adventures. And see for yourself how Volvo's legendary safety brings peace of mind to every crisp morning commute. This September, lease a 2026 X-E-90 plug-in hybrid from $599 bi-weekly at 3.99% during the Volvo Fall Experience event. Conditions supply, visit your local Volvo retailer

or go to explorevolvo.com. DC high volume Batman The Dark Knight's definitive DC comic stories adapted directly for audio for the very first time Fear I have to make them afraid He's got a motorcycle

Get after him or have you shot What do you mean blow up the building From this moment on None of you are safe New episodes every Wednesday Wherever you get your podcasts As there's a drive in a deep left field by Castellanos, it will be... Oh man, it's 8 o'clock.

And so that'll make it a... I don't need the spotlight. I shine just fine. Hi, I'm Karma. And yes, I am a bitch. Brov Bros. Good evening, everybody, and welcome back to another episode of Brav Bros. Your favorite podcast from The Bros for everybody.

For whoever wants to listen, I am your co-host. Oh, Steele Russell, joined as always by the one and only, Ross Lick Magoutts. What's up, dude? It's a very special episode, I want to say, because we were twiddling our thumbs today, thinking about what we wanted to do. And look, Roslick delivered, for sure, which we'll get into. We have to get into our preamble, though, because Ritchie's out there with his friends. Oh, yeah, Richie's friends.

And we need to get, like, 15 minutes of stuff going on here. I don't want to disappoint Richie. We've got to talk about our lives. I can honestly say, I don't think. I can wait 15 minutes to talk about this episode. So Richie, you're going to get a little bit of a reprieve. Yeah. But not a full reprieve because I really liked our idea last week.

And I have more on that. But New Year, New You, baby. How you feeling? Pretty good, actually. I'm not a huge fan of New Year's Eve. I talked about this last week. But I do want to be the last people to wish you a happy new year. Oh, I, the whole.

Three days later. What made me laugh was some idiot made that, that joke that I hate so much where someone's like, oh, see you next year. Oh, God. But I forgot.

People actually made that joke. I thought that was just like, I went on a whole rant about it last year at this time. And I forgot how much. Last year or last last year. Oh, two years ago. Let's see what you did. Well done.

See, that was funny. But I went on a rant about how I hate that. And I remember, I think I posted it. And so many people were upset with me having an issue with people saying that. They're like,

if people want to make the joke, it's fine. and you just don't have a sense of humor or I grump. It's like, no, the joke sucks. It's a stupid joke. Stop saying, see you next year. All right. And I like dad jokes.

I'm a big dad joke. For sure. But if people make the exact same joke over and over and over again, I don't care if it's the best joke ever. It's stupid. It's going to be stupid. But like I said, New Year, New Hat, I just broke out a fresh bro's lid for the new year. Good lid. Because I'm pretty sure this is going to be our year, you know?

I have a big feeling about 20. I don't know exactly what's going to happen. Like I said last week, and I've said many times before, but we have a lot of shit on the horizon that we can't talk about. Well, yeah, no, that's very true. And we talked about last week being a complete black hole, which I think everybody would agree with. Last week was a nothing week. December 21st to January 3rd is the Dark Ages. I don't think the 21st.

I think right after Christmas until New Year's is the Dark Ages. Yeah, because you at least have Christmas to look forward to. I don't know. I don't mean Dark Ages as like a bad time. I just mean it's a whirlwind, like, when I come out. Bermuda Triangle? It's the Bermuda Triangle. Well done.

When I come out the other side, I'm like, Jesus Christ, has it been two weeks or two months? I went to the grocery store today for the first time. Actually, no, I went to the grocery store last week because we had to pick up something for the show. But other than that, I haven't gone for myself since before Christmas. Is that a good thing or a bad thing? Probably a bad thing. I mean, ordering food everything. Health, oh, that's what I was saying.

Is it because, like, you had parties and people were feeding you? you're just being a piece of shit and ordering food. Both. Both, yeah. I had an adult moment today. Okay. Poppy wanted Chick-fil-A. Okay. So I went on Uber Eats to do a pickup order.

They don't pick up from the Plymouth Meeting Mall. Didn't know that. You have to go physically. You can go pick up, but you can't order on Uber Eats to pick up. Oh, you do it on DoorDash? No, you can't. I just did it last week. No, you didn't.

Okay. Then they had pickup off today. Maybe that was it. Maybe that would pick up off today. But regardless, I was like, all right, fuck it. I'm just going to order. It was $65. And I was like, I'm not, I'm not.

You know how much it cost in person? 28 bucks. Wait, to pick it up though? Like, did you go pick it up? I went and picked it up. It was $28. No, no, no, no. To order it to my home, if they delivered it, it was $60.

Yeah, that's insane. I spent 28 in person. It was more. Well, what wasn't? Because you said 68 first, and then it was 60. It was 60. It was 60. I got 60 and 28 because it was the final total was 20.

it was $60 to order it. All right. Just keeping you true. Keeping me true. Keeping you true. Thanks, boo. Oh, God. Yeah, no, I mean, I probably had Chick-Flay about six times.

But I did watch, which is so funny now that this happens. I mean, I was never really like keyed in on a certain New Year's Eve special to watch every year. It's not like I was a big Dick Clark guy. You're not a big Dick Clark guy? Or any of the above, really. but I sat there and I watched. You listed one. Dick Clark.

Any of the above. Whatever. Whatever. Let's just get past this. All right, Richie. But no, I never really had a favorite. But now I will watch the Anderson Cooper and Andy Cullen one all the time. It was the last three years.

It's just been locked in on that. Favorite moment from that was John Mayer at the Cat Bar. It was so good. And especially with Anderson laughing like that the entire time. And the fact, I love. John Mayer's commitment to bits. Oh, yeah. I'm a big commitment to bit guy.

That's why we both love Tim Robinson, because the commitment to a bit. It's great. But the cat bar stole the show, and I agree. Anderson and Andy are my go-toes now, and not just because of this podcast. It's definitely better.

If you want to be all family and stuff, I guess, go watch Seacrest. I guess. I didn't even watch it. I didn't see any clips from it either. Because I want to see two drunk guys. talking shit. And they mess each other up, too, because they'll send in, they're reading tweets from

the year, thankful, quote unquote, thankful tweets. And half of them are, like, ripping another person. It's great. I hope this person is the worst year ever. And then they just stop reading it and start laughing. Like, this is great. It's pretty much like watch what happens live, but like five hours of it. I mean, he does slip in a lot of the segments that he does.

He did. I saw like a few clips of it. And he also mentions Bravo, you know, every like 20 minutes, but that's okay. But, uh, I have something for you. It's a little, so my new favorite segment that we do is the theories, right? Yep. Here's my new favorite one. And this comes from Instagram, actually.

And I still have the one saved, like the Greece one I want to go back to. And I got some more, yeah. But I thought for... Still wish that was ancient Greece, but keep going. No, I know. But in light of this being a late episode, I wanted to keep it shorter. This one says, Paul McCartney's wonderful Christmas time is about friends practicing witchcraft, but then someone walks in and they have to suddenly play it cool.

lyrics the moon is right the spirit's up we're here tonight and that's enough somebody walks in simply having a wonderful christmas that's good i like that one i laughed out loud i was going to set it to i was like oh no i have to save it wouldn't be surprised do you think that oh i don't know if i want to go this far but i will do you think that paul mccartney was uh actively practicing witchcraft and he got the rest of the beetles killed no i guess ringo's still alive that one goes out the window. Maybe he got John Lennon killed now. Who knows?

I don't think so. Maybe like Illuminati. I don't know. It's all knighted before or after John Lennon died. Probably after. Wait, are your conspiracies? Maybe Queen Elizabeth said, hey, only one of you can be knighted. And it's like a duel to the death and they were just both trying to get each other out.

And the witchcraft came through. I feel like there's definitely some die-hard Beatles fans that follow us. They might take umbers with us. Why? What the fuck are you going to take umbrage with that for her? I don't know. Or they already had this idea themselves. I've never heard a conspiracy theory that one of the Beatles killed the other Beatles.

Paul had John whacked. Paul had John whacked. Has anybody else heard that? I don't think that has any merit. I love the rhetorical questions, as if they're going to answer us right now. Which is a great time to plug our live show. That's right. You want to ask us questions and we will answer directly to your face while on a show.

Why don't you come to our live show on January 25th in the. Green Room 42, get your tickets, go to our Instagram, go to the page. You can get right in there, get as many tickets as you want, come hang out with us for the evening. What else are you going to do on a Thursday night except for hang out with the bros, listen to a little bit of a podcast, maybe hear your voice on the podcast. We're still figuring out the technical issues. Don't you worry about that.

Don't you worry about it. We've got weeks. We got three weeks. We also have, well, here's the difference is we actually have people now. Like, they can help. Yeah, we got people for that. we got we got people that can help us with that because uh yeah we'll figure out the technicalities you just figure out how to get there that's all you got to worry about you got to do bus fare airfare

train car uber walk just don't you know use uber eats to get chick fillet you're gonna spend a lot of money the quote shooter all of the above all of the above all the above just take them all but without further ado let's get into what is arguably my favorite episode of housewives ever the best wrap up to a season I've ever seen since we've started this podcast, at least. And just immediately punched me in the face because I said last week that usually they don't end seasons on trips. Oh, yep, that was one. Immediately just like right to the face. See you later, dude.

I'm still pretty sure that we've ended another season on. It doesn't matter. They immediately responded. I appreciate that for me. No, I'm not even touching that one. Nope. But seriously, like the way that they wrap this season up and the way that they tie jenshaw back into it without me being angry about it i was actually so thrilled at that little drop

in there at the end and we're not no spoilers we're gonna we're gonna go through this organically no are we i don't know if we're gonna be not at all because the time that's the only issue because as i'm writing it down on like two hours later two hours before but the crazy thing is there was one thing obviously you know they they did the mopeds to the city and all that and that's all well and good and you know whatever you want to say about that however the rest of it was just one thing and this episode flew by. This was the quickest 48 minutes, whatever it usually is

of TV that I've ever seen. I didn't even want, and this is us watching it live which we very rarely do. Usually we'll watch on Peacock the next day. Plug for Peacock. But tonight we watched it live going through episode by episode or episode by episode. Segment through segment and having to deal with commercials, I

was furious. I just wanted more TV. I know. It was so good and I thought the same thing. I saw credits roll at the bottom. I was like, shit. I was like it's over already. Yep. But I think they ended it at the right time, too. You can't do anymore.

No, no, no. It was perfect. It was drawn out enough. It didn't go too far. Here's my issue. They just set the bar so high for finale's now. You cannot have another black eye incident where you don't get it told at the end of the season.

You can't have another fizzle out. You need to end these seasons with a bang because I'm expecting this now. I'm expecting to leave a season like, holy shit. Oh, you can't do that. Too late. Don't do it. It's too late. It's too late because they set the bar that high.

But that's not fair to the other. Look, Potomac sucks. It's not my fault. I know that, but Potomac stinks. What are they going to do at the end of the season? Just tease that Juan is having another affair? Well, it should shake up all the producers to be like, oh, this is what we're going for. Yeah, I've got a bit of a theory about that.

But we'll get to that when we get to that. All right. Well, let's jump into this episode because I'm jumping at the bit. And we can fast forward through the first two scenes pretty much. We get Whitney and Monica. and you get the dramatic comment, which comes into play later. Monica shares with her that Lisa was talking a little bit of shit and just said that, you know, Whitney was being dramatic the other night

when she was chasing Heather down the beach, which she was. That's not a crazy thing to say, nor should it invoke such anger. But we'll get to that later. The second thing we see is Heather and Whitney squash their beef, which is nice. And honestly, important because of the powwow we see later where all of the OGs get together and have that secret circle, Illuminati meeting. That's their second Illuminati reference.

We need to be careful. We need to be careful. We do. Because I was on TikTok and I saw the Bohemian Grove. Wait, what was the other comment about the Illuminati? I was talking about when you were saying that if this was all, oh, the Beatles thing. If Lenin was that, I didn't know. Yeah, that's where the Illuminati thing came from.

So you think Paul McCartney is in the Illuminati? Yeah, potentially, according to your theory. We're just having a wonderful Christmas time over here. simply nothing to see here nothing we're not doing witchcraft in here hide the hide the pentagon pentagram good god hide the pentagon too luminati pentagon see it all ties back in together but let's dive into the meat of this shit because we start getting the one hour later's and that's when i start getting here i like when they do this i don't know why but when they set the drama with one hour later i'm like ooh something's going to happen and this is where

heather gets the phone call we've seen this phone call a thousand times now we've all speculated about it. I put out something last night on our story that said, is this going to be another flop? Are we building this up like the black eye? No, we were not. But anyway, then we get the four hours later. And now Heather's talking about this devastating info. It's too big,

too damning. It's going to change our friendships forever. And that takes us to the dinner. Rightfully named the Bermuda Triangle dinner, rightfully set. I mean, everything was on point. The fucking table was set up in a triangle. Oh, yeah. It's a good theme's party.

I understand that, but, like, they're just hitting on all cylinders. It's all working for me, baby. You're impressed by the triangular tables? All of it. Even the game. She brings up a game. And I'm like, it feels so bad for the finalees of all of these other shows. You are going to hold them to so many higher standards.

Not a higher standard, an unreasonable standard. Something they cannot meet. Okay. So that would be higher? No. Too high. It's insurmountable. They're not going to get there.

But anyway, let's get back to the dinner. Heather brings up this game, and it's the mystery game, and I know where she's going with this, and it's a really good setup, honestly, and this was the most calculated successfully that I've seen Heather. For sure, like, without a doubt. She knew what she was doing the whole time. I am incredibly impressed that no one else broke character, if you will.

Isn't it a while? Knowing that they, like, knew everything beforehand, a couple hours before the dinner even started, how were they able to go through with him? this. I mean, it started off with what, Whitney calling out Lisa because of what Monica had just told Whitney. So was Whitney holding on to the fact that maybe Monica didn't do anything? And maybe I'm just going to be friends with her and we're going to see what happens. And I'm still going to use Monica's evidence to go after Lisa in this moment. Like, how were they able to get through this whole dinner

without just running right at Monica? But the one thing I will say against that is it makes a lot more sense why they kept saying dramatic. I think that they all got stuck on a word because they were all playing a part and they're like uh maybe uh dramatic dramatic she's being dramatic dramatic dramatic we got 15 dramatics and i think that monica's just sitting there like these people are idiots i can play a drinking game with them well yeah can you but i completely agree i'm shocked that this group and we've seen them act we've seen them attempt to act we've seen them try to fake like they knew something or didn't know something and they're not convincing this was an oscar worthy performance out of all of them especially considering what we've seen in the past from them but i would take

even further and just say that their way that they were able to perform even kind of fooled us because we didn't see, we weren't privy to the conversation that they had on the beach until after Heather already dropped the bomb on Monica. Once she dropped the bomb on Monica, then we were able to see what happened on the beach a few hours beforehand. But the way that they were going through all of this had me fully convinced that whatever bombshell Heather was going to drop was going to be completely stupid, have no meaning or no bearing on anything.

And obviously we know that nobody talks to Monica anymore. but we weren't entirely sure why. So everything leading up to this was, all right, like they're able to still have a conversation with everyone, whatever Heather told them earlier, holds no weight, I don't really care. Clearly, they're not that into it. It's not that big of a deal. Or else they wouldn't be sitting next to somebody like Monica, somebody like Meredith, depending on who it was that she actually outed.

The whole time, I'm convinced that it's just not going to be a huge thing. She completely turned me away from Monica with all of the preamble. They successfully had me looking elsewhere because when it came out, gets around to Heather as they're playing this game and they've all got their little dolls in front of them, which is even funnier that Heather was able to tie in the fucking Mormon party all the way down here in Bermuda. And also Heather not having Monica's doll. Right.

No, Heather had Meredith's doll. Meredith's doll. Yeah. And that's where, because I, in my head, I'm thinking, she set these dolls up intentionally. So she's going to have the person she wants to call out. That's what I was thinking. So well. She picked up Meredith's.

And I'm like, oh, weird. That's where my head's. Immediately, I'm like, all right, well, Heather's going to have Monica's doll. She pulls Meredith's doll, and I'm like, Meredith wrote the DMs. That's what I was thinking. Then she starts talking about Meredith, and she's like, but I have someone else I want to call out. And I was like, ooh, go on two hours earlier, and we go to the beach. And we see Heather.

And I don't think that they got this in the first take. Oh, you don't think so? No, I don't. Because this was the one time where I was like, all right, this seems a little bit scripted because the way that they're talking to each other and they're trying to be so dramatic with it that it I don't know it didn't seem organic to me completely which doesn't matter like it still gets the point across right but I do think there was some cuts in there and I'll say this or say that again or let's get a better reaction it doesn't matter oh it really I can tell you

how much it doesn't matter that I didn't even notice that you didn't see I was so locked into the story that I did not care to even think about the details Well, we get the details, and Heather lays it on us and gives us everything and says that Monica has schemed and worked to get in with this crew, and she is none other than, and I know this account. I was floored reality pontees, and I was like, I literally said, holy shit, I didn't expect that at all. Like, first reveal, great. I didn't think this was going to land as well as it did. this account has been spewing vitriol about these women for years. Ever since the Jen Shaw thing, they've been saying horrible, horrible things with videos to back it up, insider scoops.

We even referenced it a few times early on, like before the Jen Shaw last season. I think we did too. Because I had to go, of course, look on Instagram, the last post was from 2022 in August. Things could have been scrub since then. I didn't follow the account, so I wasn't positive. but I know that we definitely referenced it at one point or another during the Jen shopping trying to figure out if she was going to jail or not. We definitely did.

We definitely did. Now we have the answer as to who's behind it. But as we're getting details from Heather, she was getting her hair done and she shares the same hairdresser with Monica, Tenisha. And Tunisia and Monica have been, I guess, best friends for a long time. But to add to the mystery of everything, this is where we get the how she found out about the beauty lab thing. And this is what we all thought the reveal was going to be.

And it was going to be very underwhelming. We thought I didn't think it was specifically going to be this. I thought it was going to be a spin off of this. Yep. Because they'd already given us that info. I thought they'd be like, oh, but you didn't know this part of it. And I was going to be like, oh, I don't care. Oh, she didn't pay her bills.

And she's got three different accounts under three different monica names who all have the same date of birth. Yeah. Once she started going out with that, I'm like, oh, no, don't do this to us. That's what I thought was going to happen. But it's not a, it's not a mainstay. It's just. adding to the fire of, oh, shit, there's a lot coming out. But this is when Heather says, Tanisha finally cracks.

And we call everybody else out for being a snitch. Tanisha's a little bit of a snitch. A little bit of a snitch. Also, she's involved. Also. She also ran the account. By the way, and that's immediately. Which makes a lot of sense, by the way.

If she's a hairdresser for both Monica and Heather and probably a couple other people in Salt Lake, she knows what's going on there. Those are the people that know the most. She's getting the scoop. She's getting that in. side scoop and she's sharing it on Instagram. People are going to think that we're backing Monica by calling Tunisia a snitch.

I'm not, but I do have an opinion on Monica that I'll share shortly. But the one thing I'll say in regards to Tunisia is this seems very opportunistic for me. This seems like a moment where she was, I don't think that she got caught with her hand in the cookie jar.

I think that she saw a moment where I've been involved in this whole thing for so long and I've been playing apart in the Jen Shaw shit. in talking smack on these ladies this account has a decent following i want to get my 15 minutes of fame i'm going to drop this bomb for the finale i she's part of my theory for later so oh i love that but she sends receipts upon receipts upon receipts and this is when i wrote down snitch because the first part i'm like all right if you spilled the beans whatever now you're sending receipts and

this is also when i was like all right if you're going to give all of the evidence you want to be on tv you want to get your moment and that's fine if you want to join the fun that is that whatever i don't care It's on TV for four seconds. Yeah, you got your four seconds of fame. I'm Amy Nicholson, the film critic for the L.A. Times. And I'm Paul Shear, an actor, writer, and director. You might know me from The League, Veep, or my non-eligible for Academy Award role in Twisters. We come together to host Unspool, a podcast where we talk about good movies, critical hits.

Fan favorites, must-season, and case you missed them. We're talking Parasite the Home Alone. From Greece to the Dark Night. So if you love movies like we do, come along on our cinematic adventure. Listen to Unspooled wherever you get your podcasts. And don't forget to hit the follow button. Here, the most popular fiction podcast of all time, which the New York Times described as

what might occur if David Lynch was a producer at your local radio station. Welcome to Night Vale is a twice-monthly update from a small desert town, where the paranormal is real. Every conspiracy theory is true. We all have to get on with our lives anyway. Welcome to Night Vale is available wherever you get your podcasts. Hi, I'm here to tell you about Good Morning Night Vale. Welcome to Night Vale's official recap show and unofficial best friend food podcast.

Join me, Meg Bashwinner and fellow tri-hosts, Hal Lublin and Symphony Sanders, as we dissect all of the cool, squishy, and slimy bits of every episode of Welcome to Night Vale. Come for the insightful and hilarious commentary and stay for all of the weird and wide. behind-the-scenes stories. Good morning night fail, with new episodes every other Thursday. Get it wherever you get your podcasts. Yes, even there. But the reactions of the group,

that is where I think this episode landed for me the most. Like Meredith Marks, like her hands in the air, like, I'm so tired of people trying to hurt us. Just so many reactions of just big, boisterous moments. You think that was the second take? I do think that was that day. Yeah, I do. She was crying.

I thought that was real. I'm not saying that the tears weren't real. I'm not saying the emotion wasn't real. The anger wasn't real. I believe all of it was real. I just think there was a couple of tries to get the best thing out of them. Like that moment, dude, come on. Yeah.

Why do they keep doing this to us? How do you do that when both, because Angie wasn't out there, but Angie and Monica are both in the house and you're in eyesight on the beach? I had questions about that as well. I don't know. Did they, maybe they wait to... Did the answers about that or just questions? I think Monica must have been, like, in the shower or getting ready. Angie, I don't know.

I don't know if they were... Making makeup and, like, they, like, arranged it so that Monica went last for makeup. Yeah, maybe. And then, like, with Angie, maybe they thought because Monica... Angie lost her big sunglasses. Couldn't find them. Yeah, she lost them in the ocean and then found them because there was a family... They're massive.

There was a family using them as a life raft. So she found them, but... The sun was reflecting off of it and melting a nearby house. Yeah, it actually sank a ship. It melted the hole. Back to the Titanic. That's what happened. That's what happened to the Titanic.

It's full circle around here always. But what I was saying is I bet they left Angie out of the conversation because she is friends with Monica or had been friends with Monica prior. Maybe they didn't want her to give her the inside scoop or something. Yeah, give her a heads up before it happens. Maybe a little more. That makes sense. Or maybe she's just the OGs. I think it's just because they're actually friends.

Oh, that's a good point. So I think that they wanted to just kind of keep it between them because, yeah, I mean, this page probably did talk shit on Angie, but Angie wasn't on the show when this page was huge a couple years ago when they were trying to bring down, I guess the goal was to bring down Jen Shaw. So I guess Angie wasn't really part of it, but everybody else was, as Monica says, collateral damage. Mission accomplished. Yeah, I mean, it worked. Totally worked. But we get back to the dinner table, and this is where Heather outs Monica in front of every. buddy and monica's first response is no and i'm like come on bro like you're caught i've seen the

i was whispering i was whispering admit it admit it just say it just admit it just admit it you have to do it you have to do it i wish that she it would have landed so much better she was like you got me if it were for that i started what i would have started questioning it meddling kids she rips off a mask and it's jen shaw no it's actually angie harrington's husband oh my god that would have been so much better he's back wait what if he's helping him on that he's got to be involved than that. No, because the one DM that they did show when Monica tried to tie in Angie

K, they said that Angie had responded and said, yeah, bring down Angie H. Oh, I know. I did see that. But that's, that wasn't fine. I don't care. Yeah, that was, that was a low blow. She didn't, she was not involved. She commented on it. It was funny. She supported it.

They all did. I firmly believe. I need to see more DMs because if that's what's going to happen to the reunion, I don't want to get too far ahead of ourselves here. But if that happens to the reunion and all the sudden Monica has all these DMs from Heather from Whitney from Meredith from Lisa and it's like yeah bring that bitch down she sucks and it's about Heather or something that would be awesome oh see I that's what I want so bad like I'm cool with this being three parts by the way just because I want to see all of that you're going to eat those words yes I am

I'm going to eat those words but back to the dinner table I love that Heather turns Monica's line back around on her she's like I use the same formula as you I got the timeline I got proof I got photos. I got bah. Heather was on point. Heather was. She was not like she was going after her in such a succinct and like pointed way that it took no credibility away from her. She gave Monica no chance to square amount of that. She went right after her. None of the other women chimed in until the end. That was better. They let her go. She was flowing. Yeah, she was killing it. Absolutely destroying Monica to the point where we've seen Monica talk during anything. Like as soon as she gets. someone going after her, she always claps back with something crazy, some sort of insult,

and she wasn't doing any of that. She had her caught red-handed. There's nothing you could do. And Heather was thriving on that, which we have not seen, honestly, ever. Ever. I've never seen her that fluid. No, not at all. But Monica finally goes, well, it's not true entirely.

And then we get some more info. We get a video clip of her at Meredith's Mark's store. And what I thought was a wig, I guess she used to be blonde. I guess. And then I also, I watched it a few times. I was like, is that her? I think it is her. Pretty sure it's her.

And then you get the- You're with somebody who you know is stealing from the store. And you're like, I didn't steal. Okay. Well, she reeled that back in pretty quick because, and you stole the clutch. And she's like, well, I don't know if you stole the clutch, but you were at the store. Then you said you weren't at the store. They pulled the theft back pretty fast.

Yeah. But that was another moment where I was like, these are the reactions. Like, Meredith Marks in that moment is so just emphatic. She's just waving her arms. She's like, you said you've never been there. Like, these are- Voice of God. Emmy performances, dude. Like, you could put this up against all my children, days of our lives.

Like, the real bangers? The real bangers, yeah. This is better than the real bangers. The real bangers, this is way better. Because this is real. But this is also why I didn't for a second question whether or not Monica was the one. behind it because normally we see a progression of Monica

yeah Monica will start to clap back a little bit she's actually witty in the beginning when she actually gets pissed she goes straight to saying really mean things just like cussing and causing a scene she just calls Lisa a fucking dumb bitch and I just wrote up a lot more than that I know but that's what that's what started

it and I just wrote up the wheels are off because now she starts spewing just going after everything you could tell instantaneously that it was absolutely Monica yeah 100% and like her saying at all those things and getting that angry about it. I was like, oh, yeah, it's you. You're not helping your case here.

But we get to her confessional. And she says there was multiple vaunties with the sole purpose of taking down Jen Shaw. The other ladies were just collateral damage. And that is the most gangster line spoken from a housewife. I would have paid any amount of money to watch the rest of these women watch this episode tonight and see that confessional. I know. That would have been awesome. Just being called collateral.

Like Lisa Barlow would have flipped her fucking lid. I think I know why, and I'm just going to do it now, why this landed so well and why this was so good, she is a fucking great villain. She is a villain. The best villains in the world in movies and everything are villains that you can't help but root for. And for some reason, as I'm watching this, I'm like, I'm not rooting for. I think everything she did was fucked up and terrible.

But there's just something there where I'm like, if you don't give her rookie of the year, like she carried this season it was a great season everyone did very well yeah but she's the driving force like this is a master class in housewifing i don't think it can be repeated and i don't know if she can come back yeah just just stellar absolutely stellar she's my hall ofamer okay no i'm holding on to my theory until the end oh why just every i'm not going to do it right now we're not done yet it's not a lot of fun but no i know but like everything that you're saying i the The only way that I can answer what you're saying right now is to go into my theory. Okay, all right, fine, fair enough, fair enough.

Yeah, why don't you back off? Why don't you settle down? Steele von T's. That's my own name. That's my only fan. My only feet. It's my Fee Finder. Feet Finder.

Yeah. That's my feet finder is. All the meme pages post that one. Pete Finder? Yeah. Oh, yeah, that's mine is Steele von T's. I like that. The T stands for toes.

Steele von Toes. Damn. I missed that one. but this is where Monica tries to use the, well, you really want me to get into it, Angie? You really want me to get into it and you're involvement in it and we get the DM of her talking shit about Angie H, which is not involvement.

It's just there, I guarantee, loose support is, I guess. There has got to be DMs from all of them. I agree with you. They're coming out of there. There has to be, because we saw like the hearts and we saw like the replies. We did not see any firm statements.

And I wonder if that's because Monica's got a, a bedazzled, bejeweled folder. I would imagine she would, and this kind of goes into what you were saying about her being such a good villain. I would say that not getting into the theory, I think that she's a good villain because she owned it, like immediately. Yeah, she did have a couple of stepback moments, but once she knew she was caught,

there's nothing you can really do. And obviously she's just trying to explain it in a way, which may or may not be true. Maybe Tanisha is involved in this. Maybe there's four or five other people involved in this. And yeah, maybe their original goal was to bring down Jen Shaw. However, you did go after the other women in the group. She didn't really dispute that. She just said, no, my goal was to go after Jen. So, yeah, okay, sitting in the confessional,

she starts talking about everything else. She's got a smile on her face. She knows everybody is going to blacklist her from this show, and she's ready to go to war. That's a good villain. That's a great villain. I'm not saying we root for her. I'm saying that's a good villain because that's really good TV. I stand by what I said. But Meredith breaks it down. and says, what did you do with this account? You tell us what you did with this account. And that's when she says, I only went after Jen and starts, I wrote down, Monica goes nuclear because now she's going after everybody.

She's saying she calls Lisa like leathery and all these other horrible things. And that's the funny thing. And this is when you know that you're up shit's Greek without a paddle. Lisa doesn't even hear what she says. Nope. She's just like, you're fucking caught. You're an idiot. Like, stop.

I don't care that she just said 50 mean things about. me because they went over my head because you're in the dog out of this by saying hurtful insults and the one thing that i will backtrack on with the the things that were said from like whitney from meredith from lisa is you sat with us and you lied to us for three months we filmed this show and you lied to us every day and said that you were our friends what do you want her to do you want to just like show up and be like hey by the way i run this account that talk shit on all of you happy to be on the show guys let's go to dinner like no reality i'm going to happen and you wouldn't have forgiven her right away

because your reaction when Heather told you on the beach, whether it was the first take or not, was, holy shit, this person's been ruining our lives for the last four years. This is one of the main accounts that has been going after us. By the way, does not exonerate Meredith. Meredith still could have a fucking murder account

and DM random people. But right now, this is a bigger focus. So we'll get to that later, Meredith. She's excused for now. Maybe they will never go back to that because of what Monica did. I think that it points all the fingers at Monica. Now all Meredith has to do is

be like, see, she's the one behind it. She's having this account. She's sending the DMs. I don't believe that it completely exonerates Meredith at all. I don't either. She has some ties to that, not to this account, but something completely different. But they all said that. They're like, you lied to us. What did you

want her to do? I just don't understand that part of it. You were going to be pissed off regardless. But then out of Heather, we get this Hoosiers, any given Sunday, just fucking phenomenal coaches speech. The end of the movie, the underdogs are down late in the game

and we need to come back and we get the coach standing up and planting their foot in the ground. This is Vince Vaughn at the end of old school when Will Ferrell jumps through the flaming hoop and catches himself on fire. This is the best rah-rah speech I've heard on Bravo.

And again, fluid, concise, so good. I was ready to run through a fucking wall. She stands up, she goes, we are friends. We've been through all of it together. We've been through this same shit. You think you're going to rattle my team? we ride or die for each other i fucking hate these bitches but i'll ride or die because these are the oh g this is the original four of ross lick and you will not fuck this up you will not come in here

and drive these women apart any further than we've driven ourselves apart and we still came back together so kick rocks bitch i was ready to stand up and run through my tv like that was a great speech yeah it was incredible it was so good and i never thought that i would be this enamored with Heather after the last two years of Heather. Because we'd like to the end of the season. Then she faded a little bit. She hasn't been awesome. We didn't know that she had this in her. Not at all. Not at all.

She is my MVP next to Monica. Okay. The one thing I didn't see coming during this speech, and it was the perfect way to do it because they made such a big deal about it for a whole year, and it's not

that big of a deal. So to drop it like this and leave it at that and not go further into it is the only possible way they could reveal the black eye without me getting upset yep and she's like i went on a book tour i defended jen shaw i've been through this before i defended her on my book tour i defended her when she went to prison i defended someone that gave me a black eye and i went holy shit it's the only way that they could have done that without pissing us off that's what i text to you i said full circle i know i didn't know she said electric it was unbelievable it was so unexpected and we knew and i completely

forgot somebody told us like two weeks ago that we were going to get the answer to the black eye and i said i don't give a shit i did too do not care someone also said that she's a blogger and i was like all right yeah i just thought i was a fan of the show thing did you imagine jensha watching this in prison tonight just she made a post she did yeah she did what you said something about if you think that if bravo knew heather gave me the or i gave heather the black eye they wouldn't have said anything like next please like it was a much longer thing. It was pretty much saying, I didn't punch Heather in the face. She's sitting

in prison right now. She's a felon trying to defend whether or not she punched somebody. You stole millions of dollars, but your biggest concern is being outed on Bravo for punching Heather in the eye. I kind of want to know why she punched her in the eye now. Which brings me to another point,

and Dev and I talked about a little bit earlier, is it not weird to you that the reactions out of this group for Jen Shaw stealing millions, going to prison were so ho-hum like not a big deal the only person that made a big deal out of it was Lisa in the sprinter van and people made fun of her for calling her lawyers for causing a scene for getting up in arms about it no one else really did

anything Meredith just laughed it off because she was expecting it because she knew about it Heather literally just admitted that Jen Shaw was guilty like last week yep the rest of the group didn't really have a visceral reaction to this they are losing their fucking minds over someone starting another Instagram account and talking shit. I mean, it's a big deal what she did. It goes to show you what they hold near and dear. The priorities, right? Like, it's weird to me. Their public, which is crazy

because also what Jen Shaw did affects their public image. That's what I'm saying. Maybe even more so than this. This is just a weird, like, conspiracy rumor blogger account that just throws out probably mostly untrue shit things that they hear on the streets, such as

Angie and Sean's marriage and whatever else and Avenue in Salt Lake City, where most of us don't really care about any of that stuff. this is crazy to me that this is their reaction to that that they are so up in arms and i guess yes it's also part of the show i do understand that you want to make a big experience here i fucking love it yeah it's awesome but i would have loved that same energy for jen last year well just like the sentence alone you lied to us for three months jen shaw lied for years and you guys went on trips to places on her dime which is actually old ethel's dime from ohio who's 95 and can't pick up the phone

anymore. That's whose money you were using. Not, I had something else to do with the phone thing and I slipped. That's why there wasn't any of that. But that's not an issue to you, but sitting at the table with somebody that you're around for three months that made a burner account to talk shit, that's a problem.

That's an issue. She just started it while she was on the show. No, not at all. But Jen Shaw. And we're starting to sound like fucking Monica apologists. I'm not a Monica Apollis. Monica said the same thing in her confessional. Oh, did she really? Yeah, she started talking about Jen Shaw scanning. older people out of mill oh yeah i saw that part that's a big deal but you know me doing this oh i maybe that's where i got the same argument i i that's where i got it we agree with that

okay you can agree with it without supported monica yeah it is true yeah 100% and but i mean that pretty much wraps it up you know i just wrote down here like this shit played like a fucking movie it did and then heather kicks monica out of the house to end it all and it was just just chef's kiss i i cannot also at first i had no idea about like the architecture of this house. So I didn't know where Monica was going. Oh, yeah. They're walking down a hill and I'm like,

she's going to the beach. She's going to go to the ocean. Can a producer go chase her down? She might go jump in the ocean. Who knows what's going on here? And then she just walks to a house. I'm like, oh, okay, never mind. She knows what she's doing.

I didn't know that there was a house down there. I thought she's going to the beach too. It makes you feel any better. I was like, why is she going to the beach? Well, because we could see the producers behind, which was so funny. I've never seen this many producers and like camera crews and stuff. There was like 16 of them.

In and around the scene. they're usually hiding in different corners and like out of the way. Every time that they panned, there was like five people standing here, I guess because there could be an altercation coming. Yeah. They have to be like close enough. That one dude came out of the house pretty quick when Angie got up out of her chair. Yeah, Angie got up out of her chair and then Monica started yelling at her.

And then I saw the two doors kind of fly open. I'm like, oh boy, I thought we were going to get an altercation at some point, but we didn't, which is good. We don't pray for violence here. Shall I get into my theory? Don't have much time left. I think you should. All right. Because I think you're going to end up agreeing with me anyway.

That's what. Whoa. All right. So the headline of this theory is Monica's an industry plant. Continue. Bravo, a thousand percent knew that Monica had that account, had ties to that account before she came onto the show. They withheld the information from the rest of the cast because they knew that this would be

a big blow-up moment. The reason that Tunisia ended up spilling the beans, maybe she got a little bit of a payoff from Bravo here. Maybe you'll pay for the information. If you want to slide this out here, That's why there's so many good screenshots and messages and all this information and evidence that ends up going to Heather. Because that doesn't happen all the time. You don't get that much evidence for one little thing.

All of this kind of keying together, yes, Monica being on this show ended up with probably the best season finale I've ever seen for a housewife show. Bravo's fingerprints are all over this. They knew the entire time. Monica knew that Bravo knew the entire time. I think Monica even knew that she was going to be out at the end of the season. And I think all of this was orchestrated, except for the rest of the women on the show knowing. I think they were the only ones kept in the dark. Everybody else knew that this was coming.

And this is why Monica is where she is. And she hasn't been saying anything recently. We all knew this was going to come out. She was sitting next to Andy at the reunion like six weeks ago before any of us knew anything. Why did we not know about this? We know about everything. There's Bravo sleuths out there that will always tell us what's going on. We didn't hear a peep about this specific detail.

why you're right everybody was hushed you're right but that ties in yeah because my theory earlier was that tanisha under 50 minutes of fame yours just takes it a step further she's part of the show yeah i'm on board yep i'm fine with it i mean look if you want to do this completely just don't go overboard for the love of god and the bravo just don't do like i vpr was sick last year but that was organic and we never saw that coming that was absolutely easy with that phrase oh Oh, right now. But this is different. This is now, okay, we knew that this, because somebody let something slip at one point, I think it was Heather, where she said we have text messages that say, I'm applying for this job and I'm the owner of this account.

Yeah. And then she kind of just glossed over and, like, kind of skip forward. So there's a chance that maybe even Heather was in on this a little bit. I think this is a little bit bigger. I think this is a little bit bigger than everything else. I don't think this is fully organic and came out of nowhere. So you think that John Lennon and the Illuminati had something to do with this? I think this is a lot more plausible than that.

Yeah. Don't miss Swiped, a new movie inspired by the provocative real-life story of the visionary founder of online dating platform, Bumble. Played by Lily James, Swiped introduces recent college grad Whitney Wolf as she uses grit and ingenuity to break into the male-dominated tech industry to become the youngest female self-made billionaire. An official selection of the Toronto International Film Festival, the Hulu original film Swiped, is now streaming only on Disney Plus.

Goodbye, summer movies, hello fall. I'm Anthony Devaney. And I'm his twin brother, James. We host Raiders of the Lost Podcast, the Ultimate Movie Podcast, and we are ecstatic to break down late summer and early fall releases. We have Leonardo DiCaprio leading a revolution in one battle after another, Timothy Salome playing power ping pong in Marty Supreme. Let's not forget Emma Stone and Jorgos Lanthamos' Bugonia.

Dwayne Johnson, he's coming for that Oscar in The Smashing Machine, Spike Lee and Denzel teaming up again, plus Daniel DeLewis's return from retirement. There will be plenty of blockbusters to chat about two. Tron Aries looks exceptional, plus Mortal Kombat 2, and Edgar writes, The Running Man, starring Glenn Powell. Search for Raiders of the Lost Podcast on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, and YouTube. Hey, Michael. Hey, Tom.

A big news to share it, right? Yes, huge, monumental, earth shaking. Heartbeat, sound effect, big. Mait is back. That's right. After a brief snack nap. We're coming back. We're picking snacks.

We're eating snacks. We're raiding snacks. Like the snackologist we were born to be. Mates is back. Mike and Tom, eat snacks. Wherever you get your podcast. Unless you get them from a snack machine, in which case, call us. I like this theory.

I think I can get on board with that. I don't like getting on the conspiracy theories right away. No. The idea that Monica, here's my... That Bravo didn't know that Monica ran this account is crazy. There's no way. And like, here's my thing with that.

Yeah, it's outlandish and yeah, like, that's a lot of moving parts. Do I think it's that far fetch? No, I think that you could probably take bits and pieces in like 75% of what you said probably would land. There would probably be a couple things that maybe were not canon that people didn't know. Yeah. But the majority, like the bulk of it, yeah, I agree with you. I'm just a little afraid of what might come later with other shows. I am too because other shows are clunking along.

We've seen Bravo land. We know they step in, yeah. But we've seen them land a bit where they're like, oh, this worked. And they're like, oh, let's hammer this shit home for three years. This was so well orchestrated and so well done and gets everybody talking about Salt Lake City. I said that when we sat down tonight that other people that I didn't know watch Bravo were posting about it live,

ready to roll, throwing things out there. It was sick. And I'm worried that Bravo's going to catch wind of it and be like, ooh, Potomac's not doing so good right now. Maybe we orchestrate a little situation where we have a thing. And they can't touch that. I was thinking maybe they pay for a little rendezvous

with Juan in a hotel room and take some pictures. Oh, Jesus Christ. If that happens now, I'm going to stop watching. But I think the biggest takeaway for me, dude, honestly, and I'm not going to say I'm a fan, but Monica was great this season. She was so good. She was. I mean, she came in.

She was a completely different energy. Nobody really knew what to make of her. Obviously, there's stories coming out about her with the beauty lab stuff. Well, the rumors and everything that she had all season make a lot more sense now. They absolutely do. I'm just absolutely amazed that all of it was under wraps the whole time, that nobody let this leak. and this is why it's allowed to hit hard or hit as hard as it does

but yeah Monica came in and she completely stole the show from day one she was completely different she threw a wrinkle in there that the other women just weren't used to and it got them uncomfortable which like it or not it makes for really good TV well it's almost like a knives out movie

where it's like you think one thing the whole time and then you get to the end you're like whoa I didn't see that coming yeah I kind of thought that that's what was going to happen to because obviously leading into it, we figured it was going to be Monica. But we were still holding on to a little bit of hope that maybe Meredith was going to get thrown in there and then it was going to be crazy.

But that's where the outside information comes in, where you know the rest of the cast isn't talking to Monica. It's like, all right, so it's got to be Monica. However, the other bombshell dropping, the other shoe dropping, if you will, with the specific Instagram page for something that we all know, all of us that do this job, all of us that watch a lot of Bravo. We know that page because you watch Salt Lake City and you know that's where a lot of the rumors come from.

That's insane that you throw that. that in there. Then you get to throw in the last haymaker, if you will, of Jen Shaw punching Heather in the face. Finally, full circle, we get an answer and they can't hold it over our head anymore, although they might do an entire episode where Andy talks to Heather about getting punched in the face. I really hope they don't because we don't need it. That was the perfect cherry on top. Leave it at that. I'm going to go one step further before we get to questions. I think Monica just outplayed everybody. And I think.

I think, I mean, obviously she did, but I'm saying, like, housewives in general, because every housewife, like, their goal, right? They all bring receipts to the reunion. They all talk to people on the side. They try to get their ammo for when they need it. We've seen it time and time again. We've seen Ashley Darby. She's got a whole handbag full of rumors and shit. She's ready to throw out there.

We've seen bedazzled folders at the reunion. All of these things. Monica just played it better. Monica got her shit in order beforehand, before she even got on the show. So she was so ready to come at all of the women If she needed to, like, that to me. We kind of said that in a different way. We thought that she had a lot of information about these women because of Jen.

That is what we thought. And she was going to carry it over and use it when she needed to. And that didn't really happen. This is a way different way to do this. And obviously, it's completely different. And I would even argue that, yeah, you're catching lightning in a bottle again because who would have known, obviously, the casting director. But aside from the casting director, who would have known that Monica was running that page?

I look I hope my theory is not true because that would be awesome if that just happened that it was coincidental that would be incredible I don't think I think that would be naive to yeah yeah I know we're not naive on this podcast we're smart bros yeah we're okay pretty smart bros but I just I think that anybody out there because I've already seen comments and stuff people there's a lot of support for Monica and again support in the way I'm saying as far as like that's just a great season like lover or eight or like that was a great season you can't really get that pissed at her. I'd have to see what she said about Lisa and Jane,

or well, Lisa and Whitney and. Those women can be furious. They can be furious forever. But I do still want to see exactly what was said from that page about those three or four throwing in Heather as well. After tonight, every single Bravo account is going to start digging and post those. So we're going to see them. That's why I was surprised because I immediately obviously went to that account,

which I was surprised it's still up on Instagram. They probably gained 20,000 followers in the last 20 minutes. Yeah. Tomorrow you're going to see their first post since 2022. Yeah. Well, Monica started posting. Oh, she did. Well, Monica was posting from her.

Yeah. Tanisha's been, she's got six. How long do you think Monica's been sitting and waiting? She took those pictures like months ago probably. Oh, she's known. She's known that this is coming out at some point. She even says that in the episode, but the way she was saying was almost like, I knew they're going to catch me.

But I do believe that she knew at some point. that Jake was going to be up, finally was. But my biggest thing with it is anybody that wants to be like, oh, she's terrible. She's awful. Get her off the show, blah, blah, blah. She did what every other housewife has done. She just took it to a different level. Yeah, I just don't, there's no future for her.

No, no, there's not. You can't. I don't know how you bring it back. They're not going to interact with her. That's what I'm saying. There's no way to bring her back, but it will go down in history as the best one and done. And you can definitely bring her on for ultimate girls trips where you mix her in with other women, because that would be really interesting.

to see is like because I guarantee there are housewives from other franchises that would buddy up to her and be like just put her in like the villain house with jacks or something oh she's definitely going to be on house i don't want any ultimate girls trips with her you don't want any ultimate girls trips period so you're not a good person to ask my reasoning mind that is if they put monica on an ultimate girl's trip then all of a sudden i have to watch it yeah right that's a good point i want to do it anymore you're not making it happen it's going to continue to happen so get over it but all and all just a a holy shit episode. It was so, so good. A great season. Monica, again, I think is going to be

one and done, but she's going to go down in history as one of the best one and done's ever, one of the best rookies ever, lover or hate her. She fucking delivered. She gave us one of the best seasons of housewives I've seen. And arguably, at least for you and I, and I know people are going to be like, you didn't see the finale of this season on this show. No, we did not. For us, we're still correct this was the best but you got to take it there yeah okay this is it this is the best finale for any housewife show ever take i don't know i might have to agree i don't even want to hear what other shows had good finale is because the dramatics the music oh i don't want this is even better than the end of vpr because we already knew and they already knew at that

point and the cameras started rolling a week afterwards we didn't get the raw emotions this was raw emotion. We didn't know. It was in the moment. Yeah. The PR was, all right, they had some time to deal with this. Arianna and Tom are still living in the same house together. Obviously, you can't compare the two because they're completely different things.

It's Apple's oranges. However, as far as watchability and entertainment value, this was better than the end of VPR. I think you got to watch. I think the reunion for VPR is going to be a lot better, but. Yeah. I don't know. The reunion could be electric. As long as everybody's willing to talk and they don't just shut down.

I just hope it doesn't turn into episode of one. one of the Scandival reunion where it's just everyone's screaming. Like the first episode and a half was just people yelling. It wasn't fun. Yeah, well. What a comeback. They went from the gutter last year. Season three was one of the worst seasons of Housewives we ever watched to one of the better ones with the best finale.

So kudos. It was in our top two for the most part the entire season. It was phenomenal. It was great. Even the dud episodes weren't that dragging. It was just a good, the only, the only down episodes, honestly. were ones that had Mary in them, in my opinion. I knew you were going to bring Mary back into this.

Which is even funnier, because I need to know why Mary is still friends with Monica. Mary got pissed off about Heather. You're eating Mary's feeding some of that information over to Vantzis? Oh, because here's why. Mary had an issue with Heather writing about her in the book, and Heather said nice things. Monica's out here skewering everybody, and you're still friends with her?

Why? Maybe she didn't go after Mary. Why? I don't know. I need more. Is Mary going to be at the reunion? I don't know, but hopefully she's in that documentary about the church, because I still need to see that. But that takes us to questions, and I'm sure you have a lot for us.

So let's jump right in. Yeah, and we haven't had this many questions since Scandival. So, yeah, this one hit. So let's start with Smashley Dubs. How the hell can Jen Shaw get on social media from prison? It has to be rich people's shit. I see videos and, like, clips from prison frequently. I don't know if it's that hard to get phones in there or to send things out.

I think the type of prison that she's in, I think you have a phone now. She definitely has a phone. Her prison is a country club. Let's not get it twisted. God, it's going to take us hours to get through these questions. You want to do one? Yeah, let me find one. This is kind of an interesting one.

This one's from underscore X Coco underscore Michelle. Do you think Lisa owes slash has to apologize to Meredith for screaming at her on the yacht? No. Yeah, because like we said before, this doesn't really excuse Meredith she still could have done that she still could have been involved in the mafia rumor and also

Meredith doesn't apologize and when she does it's very half-assed and these women blow up at each other all the time and also I think the biggest part is after all this nonsense with Monica I don't think apologies are necessary I think they're cool because they have a united front against a common enemy yep let's see

do you think she actually stole the purse and that's from Seds. No, I don't. I think her friend may have. There's a chance that that's. Was there a purse stolen? I just, I'm not saying it. I think if there was a purse stolen

and there's security footage. You would have seen it. And my big thing with that... Somebody's getting arrested. Yeah, my big thing with that is we don't have a lot of info on it. And Meredith immediately retracted stole. So it's kind of confusing.

I don't know. From Mike Bross or Mike B. Ross. Oh, Mike Bros. Like, bros. Do you think Andy? is more involved than the episode made it appear. I think I'm not going to say Angie was.

I think that all of these women in the group are suspect until we get evidence at the reunion. Yeah, I would agree with that. From D. Gomez 2-2, do you think Monica will be back? I know because I just don't see how you can bring her back. I don't know how

anybody mends that friendship with her. And as we talk about on Potomac all the time. You can't have a show where people just simply don't like each other. It's not very fun to watch. Yeah. Now, here you go from Sid Hilsey. Is this the best finale in Real Housewives history? Sure is. Damn right. Let's speculate a little bit because this one comes from Tay Kessner. So her only involvement was posting the videos of Jen. Dot, dot, dot, I don't know what to believe. Do you think that that's her only involvement? I obviously played that mental gymnastics for a little while. I think that was her sole focus.

Yeah. Knowing and seeing, yeah, exactly. Knowing and seeing Monica and how she has been this season when drama's brought up and she's, she's never the driving force, but she always seems to be in, like, in the corner trying to add to it a little bit. Right. I guarantee if some other shit was brought up to her, like during that whole Von T's thing, I guarantee she would have an opinion about it. Yeah. Yeah, that's a good point. I don't think she's free and clear of the other nonsense, no. And you are correct, by the way.

Reality Von T's is now up to 13.5,000 followers. They were at, I think, 10.8 when I first looked. That number will be 20,000 by tomorrow. For sure. From Billy Deal, is this better for Monica's legacy for this to get found out in our first season? One and done, yeah, it honestly is right off into the sunset and just be that person forever. Yeah, I would agree with that as well. I don't, obviously, we already said there's no way that she comes back for season two.

if this I don't see how actually no I'm going to completely disagree with that if she had gone through this entire season and wasn't found out at the end and we got an entire season of Monica just doing her things we still would have said that she was a great rookie yeah we got a little attached to her

and then at the end of the next season it happened that would be incredible you blew your load too early bravo yeah you should have waited go let it dangle let it dangle last one and we got to touch on at least one Okay, but why did Jen punch Heather? I need more details.

That's from Abby Dav, Abby Dave. We don't know. We have no fucking idea. We did this last year. She gets drunk and mad and violent, apparently, and that's not surprising at all. I'm sure Heather probably said some shit, or Heather maybe, maybe questioned whether or not she was innocent. Just like, hey, we're friends. You can tell me and can feed off on her?

Here's the biggest thing. You ready for this? Here's my response. Who cares? It doesn't matter. We know Jen punched her now. Leave it at that. Stop leaving.

We don't need more details. I don't need to go down this again. That plant that I kept calling out is finally exonerated. You planted someone? That plant that I said punched Heather in the face? Oh yeah, the twig plant. Yeah, yeah. Twig plant.

You're free to go. It's free and clear. Free to go. Sorry you were in jail for a year, bud. Yeah, yeah, we'll get you out of Hawk real soon. But, man, what a nap. What a nap. What a season.

What a time to be alive. What a delivery for the bros. What a start for the year? Honestly. Like, we had nothing. 2024 set the bar way too high because the past few years I've told me this year's going to be tough, too. And now I'm excited. Well, it's a leap year.

Now I'm optimistic. Ah, now we're leaping ahead of all the bad stuff. Yeah. All right. I like that. Let's do that. Like that. Okay.

Leap prog. Bros are leapfrogging. Out of here. Bye. You can't see me do the finger guns. I just realized I just did finger guns because I thought that was a good sign-off. So finger guns, bro, bros are out of here. Here, the most popular fiction podcast of all time,

which the New York Times described as what might occur if David Lynch was a producer at your local radio station. Welcome to Night Vale is a twice-monthly update from a small desert town, where the paranormal is real. Every conspiracy theory is true. We all have to get on with. our lives anyway. Welcome to Night Vale is available wherever you get your podcasts. Hi, I'm here to tell you about Good Morning Night Vale. Welcome to Night Vale's official

recap show and unofficial best friend food podcast. Join me, Meg Bashwinner and fellow try hosts, Hal Lublin and Symphony Sanders, as we dissect all of the cool, squishy, and slimy bits of every episode of Welcome to Night Vale. Come for the insightful and hilarious commentary and stay for all of the weird and wild behind-the-scenes stories. Good morning nightfail, with new episodes every other Thursday. Get it wherever you get your podcasts. Yes, even there.