Bros & Shows - Monique Returns while Angel Stays Grumpy (RHOP Full Recap)

Episode Date: November 19, 2025

What's up Bros? Monique has returned. Ashley wastes no time in telling her that Stacey is a liar, despite Monique never meeting her. Angel sits down with her sister and it just raises so many questions. Mainly "why is Angel on this show?"Gizelle attempts to get her fathers will straightened out. Jassi gets hitched. World Pride kicks off and Kiearna tries to force the Monique/Stacey/Chris Samuels thing, that will more than certainly fall flat. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Nothing makes me happier than a good season of Potomac. I know that. I know you do, but, like, you know how long I've been waiting to get to a place where I don't have to worry when we get to the episode each week? Like, last year I was concerned because I was waiting for it to fall apart. This season I'm relaxed and just watching my favorite show. I think you needed last season. I think last season was a gateway season, if you will.

Yeah, like a gateway... To prove, like, what was that? A gateway drug. Yeah, sure, gateway drug. Gateway season to prove to you that they can last an entire season of being pretty consistent. So now you don't have to worry as much this year.

Correct. That's what we're in. I'm your co-host and shows. I got to have me my pros and shows. Bros and shows. Brose and shows. I got to have me my Bros. Shows and Shores.

Good evening, everybody. Welcome back to another episode of Bros. And shows, I'm your co-host, Steele Russell, joined as always by the one and only, Mid-Atlantic McGee. What's up, dude? I thought it was going to be Shooter T-O-P. Oh, yeah, I probably, what would our drag king names?

I guess we'd be drag queens. So what would our drag queen names be? Mine's easy. See, like, I don't fucking know, because if we're using Ashley's naming as a rubric, it doesn't make any sense. Some of them were okay. Some of them are just straight up, like, 40 words. Some of them were funny, but they're still not drag queen names.

Shooter. Their king names. I mean, you and I could have some great drag queen. could if we had some time to think about it and then also airbrushed it onto a t-shirt. Yeah. Steal. Let's see. Let me just try one real quick.

I'm so close. That's fantastic podcasting. Well, we can cut this part out. No, I'm just going to keep talking. Filled the dead air. But it's probably also distracting you. Steel plus hole. Oh, God.

I was trying to think of so. I would have rather you just not thought of something. I don't like that one. Yeah, no. I'll get back to the drawing board. I'll figure it out. Yeah, we need a whiteboard. Yeah, I know.

We've been saying that for a while. Shooter Mick, shooter Mick, shooter Mick split her. Am I a drag king in this? I like this. Yeah, what's going on? I forgot the rules. I just do the opposite of what Ashley did. Anyway.

Stella McMussel. Okay, that works, yeah. For me. Yeah. I thought that was going to be me. Uh, Sheeter, no, I got, I'll, I'll get some. Sheeter Sheeer Shea. Sheeter, aye.

There we go. Sheeter Sheeer Shee. Good, that's good as gold. Wow. We're done. How about that? We're done. That was so too good.

Yep, Robbros are out here. But as far as Ashley's antics go and the things that she does every year, this one probably bothers me the least. I don't really care. I think it's actually kind of funny. I like what she does these things. But this episode was. I guess sort of like

let's set everything up. Yeah. I think we're going to fall flat next episode. Not like the episode's going to be bad. I think all the things that they're setting up, it's sort of like... Monique's going to fall flat. I don't know if Monique's even going to fall flat.

The moment that they set up... Stacey Monique is going to fall flat. Yes, that's what I'm trying to say. I think the real thing here is Giselle Monique. And I think that's what's kind of lurking in the background that we don't know about. Because I know Josel is very good at her game, at her game, at this game, rather.

and Monique, you know, she's going to get back into it, and there's a lot of history there. So I think Giselle's going to identify this could be good. If we're going to bring Monique back, why don't I get involved? She could get involved a little bit. And it won't be this whole weird setup for Stacey. And we'll get to all of that later because that was clunky as shit.

But this episode did feel like, all right, let's just kind of set some things up, which typically happens after a trip. Yeah, and that's the thing. When you have a good season, filler episodes, we're on fire tonight. We really are? Filler episodes are enjoyable because it's almost like a little reprieve from the drama.

You can just watch your favorite castmate do their thing. And it gives you just a breath of fresh hair as you gear up for next week. Now, like you said, what they teed up, I don't think is going to land. But I enjoyed this. It was just a nice little easy episode. I enjoyed all of it except for one scene in particular. Yeah, I know exactly which one you're talking about. I know which one you're talking about with our favorite newbie.

But, right? Yep. Yep. So let's kick this one off with the newest trend. So our tropes on Bravo have been a few things. Sound baths, right? Roaring 20s parties. There's been a few more in there that we should probably have kept the list on our imaginary whiteboard.

The new one, spanning all shows, salmon sperm facial. I think it's only fair that you try this. Why isn't me? Because you already have a skin care routine. Okay, yeah. But what if it fucks that up? You don't have one, so wouldn't you doing it make more sense? It would, except you have the background knowledge to compare it to skin care routines.

Okay. Mine would just be like, oh, well, is it the same? Look, I'm not against it. I mean, the joke's right themselves. Yeah, it's a pretty easy joke. And I don't think it's like, you know, ew, grills. I kind of do, but it's a little gross. It's a little gross.

But I'm not like, never ever. It's just more. I think that for our audience needs to know from you. Yeah, I'd much rather do this than a sound bath, I'll tell you that. Really? Yeah. Interesting. There might be like benefits to my skin versus just annoyance.

Would it rip off your mustache? Could. Yeah. Is there bleach in that? Who knows? Are we polluting the rivers? Yes, we are. This took a weird turn.

Anyway, we start out with Tia and her family FaceTime. She's calling her mom back, I believe, in Nigeria, and they're talking. talking about being part of the royal family. I would love to see this picture for smoking in a magazine. I'm sure it hits so hard. And I just, I love her dynamic with her family. I love her scenes.

She's just such a delight so far. And listening to her daughter be like, she talks crap about you all the time, Grandma. It's like, daughter's a snitch. Daughter's a snitch, but I do love this

because we already have the foundational knowledge of this blended family with, what's her husband's name, Rob. Rob being from Chicago. and obviously the kids are kind of more Americanized, if you want to call it that way. And she already introduced us to all of that. So seeing this now, it's not like a jump scare. It's not like, oh, fuck, what's going to happen here?

We already know that this is going to happen. They've already been doing this. The main thing that I'm focusing on is her son did not run away. Right. He did not give up on the family. So that's huge. Yeah, big news. I was really worried that him cleaning dishes after his birthday and his sister's birthday was going to cause him to defect.

He did not. And he did not. So good on him. Yeah, so good news. Everybody can relax. we don't have to worry about that anymore. And let's get to our first reintroduction to Monique. And it's her and Ashley, and we get a montage of Monique.

For those that don't know if you're newer to Potomac, she's on the show for a while. She made her departure after getting into a physical altercation with Candice, who is also not on the show anymore. Now, if you go back to that scene, there's a lot of arguments to be made, okay? Because no, she shouldn't have put hands off. on Candace, but if you go back and watch Candace's hands were in her face, she was literally saying, drag me, drag me, and then she dragged her, and then it was like, what are you doing? And we've talked about that before on shows where people ask for it, then they get it, and then

they play victim. Yeah. And I'm not saying that Candace wasn't a victim. I'm just saying there is room for argument. Interpretation? As to who you supported in that whole thing, yeah. I think that's fair, honestly. I think that was a really good era of Potomac, too.

So it is a, no pun intended, black eye on the whole situation because that was a really good error. But I'm happy that they brought her back because that wasn't as egregious as some of the things that we've seen. And she didn't go to prison. She didn't do anything that was completely illegal. Obviously, this isn't great. But she served her time, if you want to call it that. Yes. And Candace threw a glass at her too.

So it wasn't like, anyway, let's get on track here. She confirmed that she is no longer with Chris Samuels, which is very important for her ten. you're on this show now because of how much of a big deal people have been trying to force that into being. And the saddest news, Tachala died. You don't know Tachala, but I knew Tachala through the TV. So that's sad. It was sad. I like Tachala. He was funny. I wonder when Tachala died. 2021, it said on the screen. So she was off the show at that point. But we get to recap the fight. And her big takeaway from that, which is good, was I don't know where that came from.

I didn't know that person that lashed out at Candace like that. And that sparked a healing journey that she is still on. And she's talking about her childhood trauma as being a part of that whole thing. She also talks about being 315 pounds lighter without Chris Samuels there. So she seems like she's in a good place. She's got her own place, which looks really nice. So Monique seems like she's doing really good. And I was already upset that the first person reintroducing her back to the group was Ashley.

I'm like, she's going to do some stupid shit right now. She's going to and she did some stupid shit And she tried to act like she didn't do some stupid shit In her confessional It's not my business I'm like then why do you keep talking about it? Yeah, this was wrong to begin with Just trying to get the lay of the land

Obviously this is a very forced conversation It's very scripted What's going on? Are you still hanging out with the ladies? You're still hanging out with all those You know who I'm hanging out with You know we're doing the show But okay, yeah, I'll indulge

You don't have to say anything about Stacy being a liar No And then go to your confessional and say You know what? As much as I really wanted to bring up the fact that she's dating Chris. It's not really my business. There's obviously inconsistencies there with Stacey,

but I'd rather just let them hash it out. She says, don't muddy the waters. You already told her that she's a liar. You're already trying to predispose her to think that Stacey's lying about something before she even meets her. That's worse than just saying, yeah, and you know, one of the girls in our group

was actually kind of talking to Chris back and forth to see what her reaction was. You're setting this up for something that it doesn't need to be, and you've been forcing it this whole time. And I know last week I said some of it seems a little producer influenced. Let's just kind of push this a little bit further so that we can bring Monique back in a better way and obviously

it'll make sense at the time. But a lot of this is Ashley. Yeah. I would say 85, 90% of it's Ashley and producers got wind of it and they're like, all right, yeah, we'll just use Ashley in this way for a little bit. She goes off, like off the road all the time. She goes away from all of this. You can just let it happen. And I don't

know, I can't wait to talk about it later, but Kearnah getting involved in all of this doesn't make any fucking sense either. This whole thing is just stupid to begin with. This is overproduced bullshit that is not landing. It's not working. When you introed it, none of us care. Nobody cares that she might have dated Chris Samuels. It is a non-issue, non-factor. And we're still trying to drive this home. Like, you said it would have been better if you just brought Chris up instead of painting Stacey as a liar. Yep. She doesn't even know her. You don't get the big

reveal. By the way, you're a liar, Ashley. So what are we doing? But I think Monique knows that too. So that's the good thing about Monique, from what I remember of her. She's very level-headed. So I think that she's going. Even more level-headed now. Yeah, exactly. Going to therapy and stuff. Right.

Which was, by the way, that's like an expected conversation to have. I thought it was going to go a little deeper. Happy it didn't. I was worried it was going to be like, you know, I had a lot of demons in my past, and I didn't realize I had those demons. And that's why he came out on Candace. It's like, no, you still did that. Yeah.

But you addressed it in a way that it didn't go too far to annoy me. I agree. I'm appreciative of up. I agree. And she invites her onto her pride. float for World Pride in D.C., which is important just because we have to... Hers and jizzies. Hers and jizzie.

G&A. G&A. Still out there doing shit. Just make it floats. Which Monique made a very good point. You are starting a fashion company with Giselle. Why? The jokes right themselves.

Yeah. And Ashley, of course, lying right away. You know her style's got a lot? No, it hasn't. She says, I never thought it was that bad to begin with. You're lying. You're already lying because we can probably pull up the tape from a couple years ago where you commented on.

her style. So no wrong. You're lying. Actually. You're a liar. Uh, Ashley. Stacy. Ashley, who is it? Stashley. Stashley. Staschley. No, that should be my drag queen name. Stashley. That is it. Oh, there we go. We got there. God, that feels so good when it's organic. Yeah, that was good. Gets me going. Yeah, I love that. Yep. Hooy. Nice job. Nice job, dude. Nice job, dude. Nice job. Great job, buddy. Great job, pal. I'll be Dobby. So anyway, we go to Eddie and Wendy, who are remodeling. And I I have to ask, is this remodel a result of the paint stain on the floor from Alitha? My God.

It's like we share a brain. I was thinking the exact same thing. I was looking for the paint stain. I was looking to see if the carpet was getting ripped up. I think it is. It's gone. We need fucking timelines. I know.

Just show us. Just like beginning of these Wife Swap episodes, May 24. Perfect. Well, there's no way because here's what I did. All right. You think she've remodeled everything and then the paint spill? I doubt. No, because, and I think it's sparked to put it all together.

I think that it was the excuse to get the remodel. Correct. So she gives one clue, one context clue from Wifestwap. She says, I've maintained this carpet through kids, pets, this, that, the other. So that tells me that carpet's been there for a while. Would you say that was this, that, or the other? This that or the other. Which one?

Oh, the other. Of the three. Oh, the other? Yeah. So it made it through all of those, which means that the new remodel without the carpet. And when we saw the picture of the after, when they ripped up the carpet, it looked like a different living room. Now it makes sense.

Yeah, it makes a lot of sense. So glad we cleared that up. Yep. It was kind of bothering me. It was like an itch. I couldn't scratch my brain. But thank you. You're welcome.

We needed. Yeah. I also do wonder if it's so funny when they're going through Eddie and all of the things that have to do with Happy Eddie with the sweatshirts and the lighters. That to me says something for a business that's not doing super well. We're going to start doing this stuff, but it could obviously go the other way. So now I'm wondering like, all right, you know, obviously Bravo's going to do you shady and start adding up all the things you're doing and it gets to 100K, around 100K,

kind of just hit 100K, and then they added three more things that it didn't move. That pissed me off. I don't know if you caught that. I did not. Okay, yeah, that really really bothered me. Were you writing down specifically what she got done? No, no, no, no, okay. No, but when Eddie's going through all of the things that he has, I'm like, I don't think

that's a good sign. That's what I thought, but then it's also hard to imagine that if you're in the weed business that you're not doing well. Yeah. Yeah, I guess that kind of makes sense too. And I think he got established like right before. Although DC's been, I don't know. Who the hell knows? DEC's been deregulated.

But the thing is now, like from what I've learned about this, because I've got people I know that are invested in this. So I guess there's only. Stacey? Yeah. Yep. Me and Stacey were talking. No, I guess there's only X amount of licenses for each state. Right.

And if you get one, like they're really hard to come by. So if you get one, it's almost guaranteed as long as you have the supplies and the crop to do it. That's good. If you get the license, you should be making a ton of money. I think I'm just always turned off when, because he was wearing the Bring Out Eddie T-shirt and talking about all the apparel for Happy Eddie. I'm like, I don't like that. But you know what? I'm going to leave it alone because it's Eddie.

If it was a housewife, I would immediately say something's wrong. They're losing a ton of money and she's trying to push it. But Eddie, he's probably doing his own thing. He's a weird guy. I think he's fine. I think that the company's fine. I have no idea. But we get a quick trip recap.

And, you know, that wasn't even the topic of a conversation. They start talking about the trip. And then Wendy brings up the fact that her dad didn't call her on her birthday, but then had the audacity to text the family group and say, make sure you call Uncle Gabe on his birthday. This was weird. Yeah, no. This kind of took some twists and turns that I wasn't expecting.

Because, like, fuck you, buddy. And then she goes, I haven't seen him in 20 years. I'm like, oh, okay. Yeah, this is odd. I guess he stayed in Nigeria. She moved to the States, has not seen him since. What did she say? I guess her mom and dad got divorced.

And she was like, then she goes into her stepdad too and he was a good guy. She stepped up. She said something weird about that, too, where she was like, he was a really nice guy, at least from my perspective. Yeah, I thought that was a weird thing to say. Should we be looking in? to the sky like what happened i don't know that she said that that caught me off guard as well but and they blamed the divorce on religious differences sure but does say her stepfather stepped up and he passed at 29 years old or when she was 29 years old so she had a good relationship with him that's all i care

about yeah and look i mean uncle larry's probably right next to her dad in nigeria like make sure you call uncle larry what gave oh i thought you made that name up no it's really i was just riffing no Throwing some names out there. Uncle Gabe. Uncle Gabe. All right. Well, Uncle Gabe's birthday is today. Make sure everybody texts him.

He's right next to me. I'm like my daughter, who I haven't seen it in 20 years. Yeah. No idea what her birthday is. Clearly. It's kind of what I got from the conversation. Yeah, clearly he doesn't. But while this is going on, you get a quick cut over to Stacey getting ready for Shio,

which is her weed brand. And she's only making gummies, apparently. But we get more info. Shio's a Nigerian word. For happy. Yeah. she's the best fan it's getting hard to defend but it's so good she's doing it on purpose she is way smarter than she's letting on i know and she's just kind of acting aloof here and there it's so

funny and i think that i still do truly think that jazelle sees it and understands what's going on i think wendy sees it too because the scene that we get with the two of them which we'll talk about briefly or in a little bit you can tell that wendy understands what's going on she's like this fucking girl like she's also like it's not that big it's not that deep it's not a big deal not like taking some of the market share or anything like that. You're doing gummies, not weed. So it's a little different there. It's just funny. You just have to

look at her like, you are funny as hell. And this whole photo shoot is incredible. I know. It's so goofy. Of course she has a German photographer. She's in like the weeds outside of her fucking office. Let's get a wholesome picture and just put you outside. There's some pretty tall grass over there. Sit in the grass.

I'll see all that goes. Yeah, that's good. I don't know. I'm done. Sure. Weed grass. Ha-ha. Picture. Great. Nice job, Stace. I like the guy being very straightforward. You know, usually I work with a lot of people that it just never really comes to fruition. Yeah, I know. We take a lot of pictures and then nothing happens.

Yep. Like, okay. Hint? Hint? You hinting? You good? Yeah, I don't know. But I want to try those shios.

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to answer important questions like, Who the hell is Adrian Maloof in this world? Listen to Turtle Time on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts. New episodes every Wednesday and Friday. Anyway, Ashley and Stacey FaceTime, and they're talking about Jazzy's wedding. Stacey said that she is going, but she has to leave early because of Shio. Ashley says that she has to leave early. So I'm like, wait a minute.

You're giving her all this shit for not going. She decides to go. And now you're leaving early, too. They're still trying to spin this. She's only going because the cameras are going. Yeah, what? But this, again, and I said this last week, it's incredibly relatable when somebody who you're not really that close with asks you to be in a wedding. You say no.

Mm-hmm. Who wants to do that? It's awkward. It's weird. You have to be part of so much more than you really want to be a part of. So I'm on Team Stacey for this. Ashley, again, trying to spin it. Well, that's a little weird. She said she couldn't go. She had all these things lined up. Now we're going, so she's going to go. Yes, Ashley, because she knows you. If you guys weren't there, she would only know the bride who is doing the wedding, who she wouldn't get to hang out with all day. So it would be awkward. Like, I don't understand how this is so, like, far of a stretch that Ashley can't get it. She's just trying to push this whole Stacey's fake. She does things for the camera. She's lying all the time. Like, it's just not true.

She has a hard on for Stacy for some weird reason. And she keeps, the best is her going to confessional. Ashley just wants to be a fan favorite so bad. And she's been on the show since the beginning. And she just never gets any sort of respect. Because of shit like this. This is why. Because then she talks to the camera and a confessional, like, we're on her team.

She's like, oh, this is the worst. First. When we're talking about Shio, because she tells Ashley, then now she's like, I'm so sick of it. I'm so sick of it. It's like, okay. And I'm glad they referenced the candle later on in the episode. Wendy had a candle line. Yep. Karen came out with her own candle line. And the whole thing was like the wood wick. She's like, but mine has three wicks. That was the big difference. It's still a rule of thumb in my household whenever I get a candle though. Woodwick? No, no. I just make sure that there's three wicks. So it's good room that I'm in. Yeah. I got you. Thanks, Karen. Yeah. Oh, that's because of Karen? Absolutely. Yeah, it's actually, it does play in the back of my head every time I look at that's hysterical. And Karen would love this.

That's really funny. But where was the energy for Karen? She didn't have this kind of meltdown with Karen, but now you're trying to stick it to Stacy for some weird reason. Yeah, it's just really frustrating. And to think that we're even remotely rooting it on, like, yeah, Ashley, get her. That's what it seems like, exactly. So let's get to your favorite scene.

Angel and Ingrid. The fuck was this scene even for? I don't know. Like, I, this is the struggle. I don't want to, like, it's stupid to watch. It does nothing for me, but at the same time, it does everything for me. So I can't get mad at the producers for putting it in there. It's sort of like a toss-up.

Like, you're either going to hate this scene and wonder why we put it here, or you're going to understand who Angel is even further and be like, yeah, no. Because all I got from this is, you can talk all this shit. You probably are a mean girl. You probably were a mean wag. You probably bullied that woman in Chicago. Yeah. But now you're with women.

who were meaner than you and better at doing these things than you are. And they're not even really doing a whole lot. Like, there's still so much left in the tank. You got surface level bullshit. You got rattled. And now you're going to talk to your sister and bitch to her about it and start freaking out and act like you're really tough because you live on the river? Yeah.

Like, what's going on? No, I got the same exact thing. You're going to fold as soon as you go back to Giselle. Like, what are we talking about? The same exact thing. And she wants to now be like, yeah. And Wendy's giggling with her asshole lips and Forrest Whitaker. her eye. I was like, Jesus, dude.

Like, they don't say shit like that. No. But I don't think she knows where the limit is because she's doing this. And again, you could have just been like kind of sad that people called out, like called you a catfish, looked at pictures that weren't, like, didn't look like you. But you're doing it

like two weeks later. You're talking to your sister who's not on the show who obviously has a rooting interest in your life and what you're doing. You're better than me. I wouldn't even give them the time of day. It's like she has to. She's on a show. Yeah, this just misses the mark so much, and she just continues to lower and lower and lower the bar for herself, and she's still not even really there. Yeah, and again, if you went the route of that hurt my feelings, we'd be on your team because, yeah, that was really rude what they did. But you've somehow flipped it to make it seem like get over it.

Yeah, like I'd almost rather be watching a woman who is just too emotional for housewives who actually gets her feelings hurt because somebody's being mean to her. You can't handle it. Yeah, like, at some point we'd be like, all right, maybe the show isn't for you. Like, we would baby her and be like, all right, just go on. Like, go to your NFL husband and move on with your life. Instead, you're doing this weird, fake, tough guy act, and it's tough to watch. Yeah. And now we're going to root against you, and we want you to get knocked down again.

I know. And Ingrid's like, well, I've seen Wendy's photos. Okay. That was probably the worst example because when he showed the, quote, unquote, miss before and after, her photos didn't seem that altered. No. It looked like maybe a brush filter. or just like to smooth it out a little bit.

But other than that, that was Wendy. It's a bad example. Still don't get it. But now I don't like Ingrid. No, now I don't like Ingrid. She's too much like Angel who I already don't like. Yeah. But again, there's just so many different things that you could say.

And you didn't choose that picture. Nope. Some blogger did it and said, look who's new on Potomac this year. You didn't say, hey, guys, use this picture. Then, yeah, you would get shit for it because it doesn't really look like you. And the rah-rah from Ingrid's tough to listen to. It's like, though, If they're doing that, they think you're a threat.

I'm like, they are, she might be the least threatening newbie they've ever had to deal with in the history of this show. Yeah. So, no, that's not it. And then Angel's like, you know what? I'm actually okay with it because now I just want to, like, move on. I was like, what? What was going on with that, the ice cones? Did you notice that?

There were, like, little toppings to them? Well, I thought there was just ice cream. No, it was, I don't want toppings on my snow cones. Oh, it was? Yeah. I don't want toppings on the snow cones. I didn't like it. Yeah, I don't mess with that.

I haven't had a snow cone in a minute. Me neither. It's not really the season for it, but you know me, I'll eat ice cream, anything frosty, any time of the year. Yeah, I know. Well, I bought, they were buy one, get one,

and I love them because they're the little hog andaws, like, they're this big. Yeah. Like the little tubs. I bought 20 of them. Oh. Yeah, just because it was like, you know, I don't love sweets,

but I do get a hankering every now and then. It's like the perfect size. You don't feel like shit. Yeah, the other night I was having to Ben and Jerry's, And I actually, which I've seen on TikTok before and I always call them like big back people who have like the mugs and then they put the Ben & Jerry's in it. Like this is so my hand doesn't get cold. By the end of the video, they're done. And I'm like, I could do that, but I don't do that because I have self-control.

Wow, you're just shitting on dev right now. You pointed out her in the middle of my sentence. I can't just stop the sentence. You know that she does this. We've had this conversation. Yeah, I forgot about that. Whatever. But at the same time, I needed it the other night.

And I'm like, you know what? This is actually going to force me to put it back. So it worked. Nice. I also don't get brain freeze, but when I was growing up, I acted like I got brain freeze so that I could fit in with other people who were getting brain freeze. Do you think you don't get brain freeze because you're colorblind? I do actually attribute that to a lot of things. Really?

If I'm really good at something or I have something else that you could see as a positive that you see as a negative for yourself, it's because I replaced it with colorblindness. Nice. I'm like I have a superpower because I'm colorblind. It's a good way to look at it. It's very healthy. Yeah, you're handicapped. Yeah, exactly. Very nice.

I love that. for you. Yep. Good job, dude. Thanks, man. You're welcome. Let's get back to Tia and her family. And I don't know what the fuck happened at this house, but my God, this is the funniest

shit I've ever heard. It was supposed to be 20 to 30 people. Rob says, well, I said 35. And they're just a little bit stressful. But, you know, I guess someone didn't make the cut. Docs the party. Rando started showing up. Dad didn't shut it down.

Nope. The daughter, Sierra. Yep. Sienna. Sienna, shut it down. Sienna and Alexis? Sienna called the po-po. Yep.

She, shit, this is getting too out of hand, dad. But, like, Tia's takeaway is why she's such a good housewife and why she's probably such a great mom. She was so mellow, dude, it was awesome. She's so mellow. She's giving Rob shit. She goes to her confessional and says, you know what?

Alexis has been giving me crap saying that I'm a Karen. It's pretty Karen behavior if I've ever heard it. Correct. You were having a party. People showed up. You got to kick them out on your own. But I guess Rob did come around to it and eventually kick them out. But it was such a funny scene.

a family that just seems like they're so, like, good together. Yeah. And it seems like everything's fine. And Rob's a good dad. She's a good mom. And they're not really worried about any of this. This is normal shit. This is normal family.

It happens in real life that we never really get to see on housewives because they're always such weird families. Yeah, I agree. It was actually really refreshing. And it's like, just someone throw up next to my bed. She's like, what? Rob's like, no. The younger, one of the twins came in and said, yeah, it was red.

And they're like, what? Yeah. And Rob's like, Ha ha, ha, what? Come on, you guys are making this up now. Anyway, what are we having for dinner? Like, it could go either way. They could just be fucking with her dad,

or they could just be telling the truth. And he's like, no, no, it's fine. Yeah, dad got dimed out. Tough look, but very funny scene. Really enjoyed it and really enjoy her and her family. I thought that it was just really nice. It was nice. It was very nice.

Jiselle, meanwhile, has been dealing with this issue about her dad's will for a few years. We've heard about it here and there. Usually at reunions, I think. Andy checks in about it, but her dad was married to this woman. We've heard about her too. Giselle has no relationship with her. Her sisters have no

relationship with her. They don't like her. So allegedly, they think that she got her dad's will. Threw it away, rewrote the will so that the new wife gets everything and that was the one that was

signed by her father. And due to his illness, he had cognitive decline. So he was not in any place to sign anything legal to make any major important decisions. So the fact that the will was signed when it was signed does not make a lot of sense to Giselle. Giselle was close with her father. She probably knows. So she took it to a court and had them look at it to make sure that this will is legit

because she's not buying it. Yeah. This is kind of badass, honestly. I like this story. This was awesome. I liked hearing about this because it's a very real situation. She even said, I don't think he could even hold a pen, let alone write an entire will. she probably led him down a path of like all right this is what it's going to be you just have to redo your will sign right here one of those things the thing that really caught me off guard which i got scared i forgot that giselle's daughter's name was angel because i thought she was meeting angel from i wrote angel question mark exclamation point

I was like, what the fuck? Kind of forced meetup is this. All right, Angel, this is what we're going to do. We're going to fly you down to Atlanta. You're going to be standing in front of the courthouse when Giselle gets there to go ahead and attest against the will that was signed by her dad. And your emotional support as well. You're going to be in there, but you guys are going to have a great time and just try to force a couple of things. Yeah.

She'll make a couple of comments. I mentioned Jamal. Yeah, talk about Jamal. Talk about where she lives in regards to the river because that's big. We all know about the riverway. You live by the river. What? What's going on?

I'm sure that's, like, the affluent area. Like, I understand. I don't care. It's still funny. If it was anybody else, it'd be like, yeah, cool. Like, we just did that in Salt Lake, where we named all the best neighborhoods in Salt Lake City, and that was fun. You know what it's cool for? Good shows?

No. When a good housewife says it, rather. Not even that. It's cool for the people that live in D.C. That live by the river. They're like, yeah. Yeah. It's like if we said, oh, it's like they live on the main line or something.

People around here would be like, hell yeah. Everyone else is going to go, okay. Yeah, cool. Don't care. Love it. Yeah, so anyway. Happy. I was in the same boat.

I was like, oh, my God, why is Angel going? That's going to go poorly. But that's not what happened. Her daughter met her there, which is nice. So let's get to Greg. Oh, dude. Holy shit. What a turn.

What an overcorrection this was. God, do you think he bought that house so that he could be on the show and be like, look at his house? I don't know. I just shit out. I appreciate the effort. effort. Like I said, I'm going episode to episode with Greg. Dude, I want to do, like, you have footage of that couple's therapy and you gave us 10 seconds of it. I know, come on. Give me the whole thing. We got to see the whole thing. We have

to see the whole thing. I'm invested in this. If you recall, we loved Greg to start off with last year and then quickly fell apart. So we are very invested in this. And we need to see what's going on because the two of them talking and exchanging words does not make sense. No, not at all. None of this made any sense. He's walking around with a huge. Huge smile on his face. Maybe he's just like a huge Wutang fan and he's excited for the concert. Maybe he's just taking some edibles or something now. Yeah.

Right. Loosened up a little bit. Oh, he's taking a smile. Yeah. He's happy. There you go. Happy Greg. Happy Greg.

That's what we need. Happy Greg. Kearna needs a happy Greg. I'm rooting kind of for them. This is who he really is now? Yeah. Great. What if he just needed to get comfortable?

I'm not doing this. I'm not doing this. I'm not doing this. I'm not doing this. It was still bizarre. Episode to episode. He had a good show. showing here he clearly read the comments and is trying to correct course good let's just go through

i mean this is what the second time that we've seen gregg third this is the third time they did have a one-on-one in the beginning which we were like oh fuck gregg's back yeah second one he was giving her money before she went to preakness he's three for three so far and this one was pretty good yeah i don't know i'm going to hold judgment but he's going he's got a long way to work back the Wu-Tang gang? What? That was crazy. I was like people that don't even listen to their music knows it's the Wu-Tang.

Yeah. Yeah, Wu-Tang gang. Wutang gang ain't nothing to fuck with. It's not a bad. It doesn't sound bad. It's not bad. It doesn't sound bad. It kind of makes sense.

Yeah. I love Wu-Tang. A friend of ours has a tattoo on his ass of Wu-Tang. Sure does. That he got from a lady he was trying to court. Mm-hmm. And they had never. ended up courting each other, which is the best part.

I can't imagine doing that, but God, I love that guy. Dollar, Dahl a bill, y'all. Yeah, that's one of my favorite stories. But we really don't get a whole lot. This is clearly just to try to paint Greg in a better light. We find out about their living situation. They're buying Kiana's condo. They're pretty much living together.

We find that out in couples therapy. And the overarching thing that they're doing is no more timeline. Yep. We've got no more timeline. We're just going with the flow, trying to, to have some fun like again he's like walking up to her like giggling and like making jokes and shit i'm like i didn't know you had teeth right never seen this before yeah i've never seen smile yeah not once so this is alarming a little bit it was that's a good word it was off-putting

slightly but i don't think it'll last like the the feeling of being off-put by him if he continues he's consistent i'll be good with it i'll be like oh gregg no don't don't you're going too far i'm not predicting it's going to happen or getting my hopes up. I'm just saying if it continues, it'll be pleasant. Okay. I can, it's better. I'd much rather watch this, even though it was very awkward. But do you think it was awkward because we haven't seen it before and we've seen so many different behaviors? Or was it awkward because it genuinely was awkward and they actually aren't a great fit and they're forcing it? More of the first with a sprinkle of the second. I'll take it. I think it's just, we're not used to seeing it.

We're used to seeing Greg literally tell her to like calm the fuck down. Yeah. It's true. So this is very different than what we're used to. Yeah, that's a good point. I think we need to see more evidence. We do. I don't think we're there yet. We'll hold out. Yeah.

So let's get to my favorite scene of the episode with Wendy and Stacey. Because one, Wendy is just having the best season and it couldn't have come at a better time. Between Wif Swap and this, you have a whole fan base that knows you might have broken the law. And we're rooting for you. Remember last week when we did the Wife Swap and we did the Wife Swap and we, episode and everybody was giving us bad comments about Wendy. Yeah. Thank God that the majority of people.

It's just our listeners that don't like Wendy. Yeah, it's so weird. The wife swap, she got a lot of shit. We go through a phase where we really didn't like Wendy. I know. We just, in the beginning of this season, we were worried that we were getting some of the stuff that Wendy used to do that used to bother us. That was what it was.

And it was saying that, oh, since she might be a fraud in real life, a lot of the things she's saying now seemed fraudulent. but after that episode then she's just turned into which is what she was last year and she's carried it over into this year she's much more easy going she has a good handle on what's going on around her which allows her to have funny reactions to shit and she's not getting rattled by things right and that was the big overarching thing from last season which she didn't get rattled we're seeing that again this year and with the stacey shit she easily could she could and I feel like it would be kind of annoying and not in a way of like all right like

let's leave Stacey alone, it would just be kind of like a miscommunication. Yeah. Or just kind of like a misfire. It wouldn't be fun. Right. Like the way that she's handling Stacey is exactly how you handle Stacey. Yeah. Exactly what, it's the best way to portray a funny relationship. Don't take it too serious.

And get the most out of Stacey and yourself in a weird way to go across to the TV audience. Like I think she's handling it very well. And it's funny. It's just downright funny. Like this was such a great scene because we know that there's still. close as hell right now. Yep. Like, they're still very good friends.

Stacey's praying for her. They're sitting next to each other while they're on stage at BravoCon. So they're still very close. And you can see a budding friendship, which is nice to watch. Especially knowing that they're still close. So you know it's going to continue to go in that direction. And a lot of that is a credit to Wendy not making this a big deal. She's like, she's not a serious person.

So I don't take her that seriously, which is the correct approach with Stacey. And that's not a rude thing to say. It's just Stacey will do exactly what she. she's doing, act like she's not doing it, and do it in a very, like, laissez-faire, like, ah, no, it's all good. And Wendy's buying it, but she knows what's up at the same time. Yeah. Perfect place to be. Case in point, you realize that there are different countries in Africa.

Well, you know, I just, I feel a connection with Nigeria. I have an affinity for Nigerian culture. Seriously. And obviously, obviously, Stacey's doing a bit. I do think that it's not that serious. I do think that she is doing sort of like an homage to Eddie and Wendy in a weird way. That's what I feel like. You were the people who got me into this.

So I feel like this is the least I can do is make it Nigerian. And name it happy. And name it happy. But she feels like it's like a nod to them. Like, all right, this is great. Eddie's response is, well, I'll just do a copycat strain. That's funny. Eddie says there's room for everybody in this space.

I'll do a funny strain. I'll call a copycat strain. Cap. Perfect. In this, she's like, this is going left in a hurry, but she doesn't get mad about it. She just lists off. She's like, all right, well, the dress is the same. Shio means happy, but she laughs it off because the biggest thing is, again, in this industry in particular, if your stuff is halfway decent, people will buy it.

So it's not like Happy Eddie is going to tank because Shio comes out with gummies. Correct. Wendy understands that. Yep. So Wendy's taking this in stride, which allows for this friendship to continue. And this is a great duo. It really is. Because Stacey is Stacey and Wendy knows how to handle it.

So we're getting delightful scenes like this. Exactly. There's just fun, funny, funny reactions, even when it's a moment where it could be contentious. Wendy's laughing it off, which allows Stacey to lighten up. And it's just a beautiful budding friendship. It really is. Yeah, I'm looking forward to watching these two throughout the seasons. Again, especially knowing what's going on.

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Wherever you get your podcast. Unless you get them from a snack machine, in which case, call us. The last major thing is world pride. Before we get there, we take a quick stop with Giselle at her daughter, Angel, the daughter, not Angel, Mm-hmm. The judge is going to look into it further, which is good news for her. It's not, I don't know if it's good news. It's not bad news.

It's not bad news. Yeah, he's going to look into it, and then he's going to contact them, which I didn't think that was a thing. No, I don't know the verdict. Call back to, well, maybe it depends on, like, what the court is. Yeah, probably. Who the hell knows exactly what's going on there. But it seems like Giselle's happy.

They didn't win, but they're winning. Yeah, again, it's not a bad outcome. Yeah. You know, so we'll see what happens with that. I hope she's right, and I hope she gets all the. the things that are owed to her. I think that this whole thing sounds very slimy from the stepmother's part.

And we check in at Jazzy's wedding, which I think it's the funniest part of the whole episode that we've been talking about this, you know, the fact that Jazzy is getting married at a bachelorette party, people not going to be there, people showing up finally with Stacy saying, okay, I am going to go.

So we've talked about the wedding a lot. Yeah. We were there for a total of 30 seconds. We sure were. We bopped in, said what's up. Priorities were set. Great. We've got three castmates and a friend of at this wedding.

Three castmates are going to leave in about two hours. Let's just pack it up and get the fuck out of here. So good. The only thing that came from it is Jazzy did get a bigger ring. Do you think that's a... Oh, you think it's... Sorry. My bad.

You better... I don't know, but if she hears this, she's going to be pissed to you. That's okay. Who isn't? That's a good point. We'll get mad at me all the time. That's a really good point. I'm just asking.

I don't know. What do they call them? What do they call them a, it's not a makeup gift. I mean, it is, but isn't there a word for it? Yeah, I think there is. They called it in Beverly Hills. They were talking about Moe when he bought that ring for Kyle. Which, you know.

I know. I'm just trying to remember what you called it. I don't remember. Yeah. We're going to call it an oopsie present. Oops. Here you go. That's what it is.

Oops, here you go. We'll call it an oops, here you go. Yeah, I like that. Yeah. The only real thing that covers. from this other than that is Ashley gets another chance to be like, I'm happy Stacey's here, but she wasn't coming and we come. And now she's showing up.

That's suspicious. I know. Suspicious of what, what are you trying to get to with this? I'd much rather have Wendy's confessional. Same. We have to get out of here because apparently Ashley turns into a boy at midnight, so we can't be around for that. That's funny.

Yes. I want to see that. Yep. Ashley trying to drum up this fake storyline. Stupid. not going to work. And that takes us to pride. I love that Grace is there. I think that's really funny that Giselle's daughter starting to get involved. I think she's, is she 21, 22, maybe older? She's going to college. I thought she was done with college or getting close to. No, I think

she's only 20 maybe. Are the twins Grace and Angel or is it Angel and Adore? Oh, that's a good question. I thought was Grace and Angel. I think Angel and Adore the younger ones. I think Grace is the oldest. Okay. So I do think she's right. You are right. You are right. Yeah. So, yeah, she's probably getting close to graduating. Yeah, so I just think it's great that she's there. Her kids are awesome. Every time they're on screen, they're always delightful people. They're too nice to potentially graduate to, like, a next-gen.

I don't know, dude. Giselle's their mom. I know. They can definitely take care of themselves. They just seem like nice girls. They do. They seem delightful, like I said. And I don't think I would say that about the people on next-gen.

They don't seem like nice girls. Or guys, to be honest. Nice people. That's an interesting point. I think if she's Giselle's daughter, she can handle herself. that I do know. So let's get to Ash T-O-P, who I do love. I weirdly love Ash T-O-P.

I weirdly enjoy from H-T-O-P. Every time she's Ash T-O-P, she does a good job. It seems like the type of thing that would really piss me off. And for whatever reason, I enjoy it. She's really, it's a believable performance. Yeah. Like, even when she walks in like this, like, hey, I'm like, yeah, you look like a dude. Yep.

Like, that's what's really good work. That's really great. And we start giving out names after Tia says, you look bloody good as a blank, which every time Tia talks So let's get to our drag king names Angel Oliver Hurtitz One of the better ones

Pretty good Yeah it wasn't bad Kind of fell off a cliff after this one Well I think her delivery as well is important Like you have to say it the right way She just says the names Yeah Like you have to break it up

Like see more butts Yeah We used to do this all the time in high school What were some other ones Jack Meehoff Uh I got nothing else for you. I used to have so many of these.

Mike Hunt. Oh, wow. Yeah. You did it. Michael Hunt. No, I mean. Did you think of that one? You just didn't want to say it?

Oh, Hugh J. Caw. Hugh. What was a Hugh J. Oh, Hugh Jackman. Hugh Jackman. That kind of works. All right, let's get back to it.

Wendy, de greased these nuts, which is funny, but it's not a name. Yep. Stacey's Lick-Herhosen. Yep. Also not. Nope. Tia, proper, puss popper. Probably my favorite.

My favorite is a nickname. I just thought it was funny, especially because, you know, it's proper. Mm-hmm. So that was good. Serving Jiz. That's the one. By far the best one. What?

It's not even clever. I don't know. It's just great. She said, you're usually serving Mike, Michael Hunt. Mm-hmm. But now you're serving Jiz. I also think it's funny that you can say Jiz. Yeah.

But you can't say the other word. yeah definitely say jizz i didn't know that yeah i thought jizz would say more i know i think we get enough of it come on what what does that mean i don't know we get it in the mail we get enough our fans send us that shit all the time it's really annoying uh and then i think the worst one is kiara which is come inject her yeah i don't yeah they fell off a cliff very quickly No one's named Come. You really needed to use, like, I would have probably used Tia's, maybe angels at the end, just to, like, really get people back up because they just died.

Monique's was okay. Monique was okay. Dr. Do it a lot is funny because she does like animals, so I'll give her that one. But the big thing is Monique enters. It's her first time back with the group. Giselle is a little wary because of her relationship with her prior. And she's also saying that might have been a tribute. we did to Chris Samuels because my biggest issue with her was she seemed inauthentic.

If they can have a good relationship, that would be interesting. I'm more, I'm just curious to see where everyone lines up with Monique. Because if she's able to, and the Monique of years past is more than capable of coming into this group, getting comfortable, contributing to the show in a good way. So I actually like that we have Giselle, who is our captain. Yeah. kind of in the background, like, all right, let's see how this goes. Yeah, so I got a different vibe from that.

It was more not that, I don't know, I don't want to read too far into it, but I feel like Giselle knew that Monique was coming. This wasn't like a blindsiding. This wasn't a surprise for her. But it does feel like Ashley's idea was to bring Monique back. This is a good way to do it. We'll have some beef with Stacey about Chris. But there's enough going on around Giselle where, again, and I've said this before,

she's very good at her job, she can identify, like, all right, maybe we can mix some things up here with me and Monique. That's the vibe that I got when Giselle saw Monique walk in. It's like, okay, let's see all this goes. Exactly. That's what I said. Yeah, no, I know, but like with Giselle getting involved, not with Monique with everybody.

Oh, yeah, yeah, okay. Like setting her up against Stacey is obviously the lowest hanging fruit and stupid as shit and I don't want to see it, which cutting it off right there kind of confirms that, and obviously we'll find out this week. But cutting it off right there with the two be continued when Kearnah is just fumbling through this. Forcing and fumbling.

She looks at her and goes, oh, do you know Stacey? And Stacey's like, no. But then the conversation continues elsewhere. And Monique is talking to other people. Kiana brings it back in and goes, I just feel like you should know Stacey because you know, Samuels like Chris, like No, no, no.

This is what bothered me with Giselle. This was clearly a T-Up. This was pre-discussed, which was, and it did not land, and it's not going to land. That's what we were both saying without saying. serving jizz. It just doesn't land. This is what we were both referencing.

We haven't even talked about this and I already knew what you were talking about. Because when you get that hard stop to be continued, that just tells me that Monique hears this and goes, oh. Oh, really? Okay. Cool.

I'm not married. Yeah. And Stacey will say, we never actually dated. We met. Somebody tried to set us up. We went out a few times. You know, I still talked to him. He's a nice guy.

And maybe he could be like, okay, cool. That's what's going to happen. And then they'll move on, and then we can see what actually happens with Monique. I just want this to happen because I need Ashley to see it and then fall flat on her face about it and then move on. You know what? Enough of the Stacey shit. Why? Stacey operate in her own zone.

She'll pop in and out. She'll be very funny. She'll have some great moments. We all love her. You doing things to drum up weird situations to put her in. It doesn't make any sense. Why is Kearna the one? I don't know.

She's just, I guess, low man on the totem pole. She is trying to do everything. And it is not working. Like either Ashley or Giselle was like, all right, you're going to say this. Yeah, she definitely got tapped in. But that was a huge mistake. Yeah. Because she, like you said, fumbles through the whole thing.

It is so clearly forced that it's like not even fun to watch. So I don't know. She continues this downtrend. And I feel like she's at a point this season. I think she's panicking a little bit. And she's trying to make up for it. And I don't think it's working. Yeah.

I agree. Especially when you're up against Tia. She's so good. And I know that this is Tia on a second year, but it doesn't matter. Tia is stealing the spotlight. But let's get to some questions. All right.

First up here from Rylan MacD., 15. Do we think Monique and Jazie will replace Angel and Kay as full-time housewives next season? Jazzy, no. Yeah, Jaze. Monique pending. I don't know. Jazzy, I just don't need it.

Yeah. You know? I agree with you. From Coley-Marie 1. Do you think that Stacey went to the wedding because the other girls were? Yeah. Yes, but not for the reasons that Ashley said. Correct.

Definitely not. Like Shooter said because she had people there to hang out with. Deer in the Headlights, which drag name was your favorite and what would the bros be? Well, we already covered what mine would be. Yeah, Stashley. What's your last name? I don't know. Lagooter.

Still. Dashley McTids. Just fuck, go for it. Oh, I got it. Stashley McGettam. Okay. Yeah. Mine better.

I do too, but I was trying to use your actual legal name. Yeah. What's, I still want one for me. Stella, it has to be Stella. Because steel. Yeah. Stella. I don't know.

Next time. Next time I'll have one. I'll chat GPT. Oh, you can chat GPT it. You know, that's probably going to work. And then what were your favorites? My favorite was proper puss popper I thought was just funny. Yeah.

But the most clever one was Oliver Her Tits. Yeah. And Dr. Do It a lot. Was it Oliver Her Tits? Yeah. Okay. Yeah, all right. I'm just making sure.

Because I thought that Ashley fucked that one up now that I'm like misremembering. But serving JIS. Why not? I mean, that one takes the case. Just the fact that you were able to say that. Yeah. From Corey Blakely's 007, why was, I guess I'll call it 007. Look at you, an agent.

Why was Kay trying to start a mess at the end of the episode? She could have given it a day. That's a good point. Give it a day. I don't even, like... That's a really good point, Corey. Just give it a fucking day. I know.

Like, I don't know why there's so many questions as to why she decided to do that. Monique is just entering back in the group. Like, do we have to force this shit right now? No. It would probably also land better when she gets to know Stacey a little bit, and they have somewhat of her rapport, and then you can drop a bomb in between a new friendship and say, oh, I'm glad you guys are getting along.

I thought that she'd be upset because he dated Chris. Yeah. Boom. Could have been fine instead of this. And last one here, I saved this for last, because L.S. Schultz typed out three messages, and I'm going to try to do this in the right order. Okay.

Hear me out. Giselle is taking Karen's spot as old matriarch. Stacey is the new Giselle, not in how they act, but in their roles of new versus old, Giselle keeping as it was and Stacey coming in with something new, hope their dynamic continues and it's a new era. I think that kind of plays. Yeah, I don't know if I would... Aaron's going to come back next year, but yeah.

Yeah, and I also don't know if I would classify Stacey as the new Gisel. I see where you're going. Yeah. I understand where you're going. Yeah. I said, like, not in the way that they act, which makes. sense right yeah yeah so i see where you're going and look i i hope you're right too i think that the key to this show's success lies in jazelle and stacey right now yeah yeah so yeah astute observation

yeah but that's all i got you got anything else nope well that's our actually i do got one more thing we got a big announcement coming soon that i can't tell you about but i can't talk about it so i do this all the time i just had to say it it makes me feel better yeah teasing well it does because You like to edge the audience? That's not even that. It's just I want to say it so bad that if I can say something, it makes me feel better. Okay. So yeah.

It's kind of selfish. Yeah, just buckle up everybody. I don't care. You heard it here first. We had to sit through OC, so now you have to sit through this. Selfish old Stella over there. Stella is a bit of a bitch. I'm sorry.

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