Bros & Shows - New Season, Same RHONJ... (RHONJ Full Recap)

Episode Date: May 7, 2024

What's up Bros?! It is that time of year again, its RHONJ season. Now before we get into it let's just say we were both a little apprehensive about this season. But in this episode, we start out with ...our usual check-ins and we have Gabriela and Antonia headed off to college. Meanwhile, Fuda is helping organize a surprise party for Jen Fessler. Even going so far as to invite Teresa and Jen Aydin despite still not being on good terms with either of them. Dolores and Paulie are still doing well, although it seems that Paul not being officially divorced yet is starting to become a sticking point between the two of them. Luis reaches out to John Fuda to clear the air before Fessler's party, but Fuda tells Luis they can speak at the party... At the party itself, Luis ends up having a 'meeting in Florida' and cannot attend. You can tell tensions are still high in the group as Terese and Jen start speaking about 'social media' drama regarding John Fuda and a double sided... something. However all of this social media talk from Jen and Tre is problematic considering they've been caught red handed leaking info to content creators... Paulie and John get into an argument over Luis quickly followed by Tre and the Fuda's getting into it... All signs are pointing to another repeat of the RHONJ formula that we've been stuck with for multiple seasons. Can they figure out a different way forward? Or is history doomed to repeat itself..... Join BravBros Members: https://thebros.memberful.com/join Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:17 Good evening, everybody. Welcome back to another episode of Bravo Bros. Your favorite podcast from the Bros. For everybody, for whoever wants to listen, I am your co-host, Steele Russell, joined as always by the one-and-only scooting my shoots. What's up, dude? It's going to be a couple of tumultuous weeks.
Starting point is 00:01:35 We're going to have a lot of episodes out with all these goddamn shows on at the same time. They like to do that. We've got like a lot of dead air, and then it's like, bam, here's five shows. You just get into a groove. We've got four episodes a week, feeling good about it. How about seven for you guys this week? What else do we have this? We've got two summer houses, Jersey, Valley.
Starting point is 00:01:54 Vanderpump, Valley. Live show. Live show. Oh, shit. That's right. Seven episodes. You guys got a lot of content for the baby birds. Yeah, I am so happy that that apparently stuck.
Starting point is 00:02:06 I know. That's why I brought it up. I don't like saying it, but I just brought it up. It was such a one-off thing. Like, I was trying to just be funny. And then we got mentioned that at the show. Somebody commented it. And I think another person commented it like, oh, I'm a baby bird.
Starting point is 00:02:19 I'm like, that's what our flock is called, I guess. Yeah. And we can call them a flock. There's also somebody out there that was going to make us t-shirts. Oh, yeah. And we want those. Yeah, I would like that. I believe that they're, oh, no, they made their own crop tops.
Starting point is 00:02:31 I said I would like a crop top. Yeah. Right. Correct. Still would. Still would. Still would. Yeah, I would love a crop top.
Starting point is 00:02:37 So if you're listening, reach out so we can get those shirts. Yeah. But anyway, as you might have seen on our page or on TV or the Bravo Sphere, it is Ronejay season. And I just need to ask right out of the gate, how are you feeling about that? Fuck this show. It's just like, and this is not going to be, I don't know, it's just so boring. And there's so many of the same dynamics, even you throw in new people last year. They just fall into the fold.
Starting point is 00:03:09 People are going to listen to this episode because they want to hear us hate it. And you came to me with an approach. Let's just watch it like a reality TV show. Let's try to enjoy it. Keep it light. I don't think I'm capable of that. It's not like it's one of those shows where like we can pick and choose the funny moments and just laugh about it. everything that they do is just annoying to me well it's because everything and i think that this
Starting point is 00:03:31 season in particular is going to be more difficult to navigate knowing what has come out on social media involving all these content creators and people that have been the funny thing was it was like alleged for a while right we'd heard about this like oh teresa's paying people and the foodas are paying people and all these people are paying people to put shit out there and we even sat here and laughed. We said, that's ridiculous. People accused us of being on payrolls. We have yet to see any money. Yeah, we wish. Yeah, if we are not above bribery, we've said this before. For whatever reason, we haven't been offered any, uh, kind of bullshit, honestly. I know, I feel left out now. That's the stance we're going to take. What the fuck. And that's the other thing is,
Starting point is 00:04:11 like, all that information came out. And of course, it came from just one side, that only one side is doing it. They're both doing it. If one of them is doing it, both of them are doing. I believe that to a thousand percent if you're telling me the just teresa and jan are out there paying people i guarantee you that the food is and melissa are also paying people or joe gorga and he probably owes them a lot of money because it's joe gorga so that's just like it's just ridiculous to me that one side or the other if whoever you're fighting for or whatever the hell you're doing out there you're going to say oh no that's not them it's just it's like no everybody's out there paying if one person is they're all out there yeah and i post that for us we're not getting shit we ain't
Starting point is 00:04:47 getting a goddamn penny which is bullshit we'll pick a side we haven't picked side we'll pick a size regardless of what so many people that get mad at us for our jersey reviews because they're on team teresa i don't know why you take offense every time we have never picked aside no we have been neutral anything i even said this earlier while watching this if i had to pick a side of who i would actually be friends with and hang out with it would probably be the teresa side because at least it sounds like they're having like some fun and they talk about other things the marge junior side which by the way we bring back march junior i do like that the marge junior side i'm not even going to call it the melissa side because she doesn't do dick it's just
Starting point is 00:05:23 marge just spewing all this hatred out there they are miserable and all they do is talk about teresa at least teresa's side talks about some other shit yeah i don't i'm not even going to like venture a a guess as to who i would actually want to hang out with i just think what bugs me about this show and primarily the and not not the casual watchers not the people that enjoy jersey not i'm not talking about you all of you know who i'm talking about it's this this, like, rabid, toxic fan base that surrounds this show that makes watching it and talking about it difficult because no matter what you say, it will get spun to fit the narrative of either side or they will yell at you from, there's no right answer to this. And it really, really bugs me because at the end of the day, this is a reality TV show and should be watched as such. It shouldn't be watched under this, like, guys of it's like life or death.
Starting point is 00:06:18 It's super serious. Let's ruin people's lives that get involved with this show. That's the level we're at. Let's ruin lives to prove a point that your team Teresa or team Melissa. And when you go to the extent of pulling in content creators to like spin this narrative, it's like we're in a goddamn election. It actually is. It's very electiony.
Starting point is 00:06:38 And there's a lot of people out there that because Jersey's been going on for so long and Teresa's been such a mainstay, a lot of people out there like, I just like Teresa because of, you know, I watched her when I was younger. got into Bravo during all of that, so I don't really care. That's just where I am. And I'm like, I get that. That makes sense. It's the other people that feel like they need to, and it's so funny, too, because I woke up Sunday morning and I'm on Twitter or I'm on Instagram or whatever, and everybody's already starting. Oh, yeah. And honestly, if you told me that, and I had no context as to what the show was, and you just said, yeah, Jersey's premiering tonight, all these
Starting point is 00:07:12 people are talking about it. I'd be like, that's electric. Yeah, that's fun. Show me paragraphs. Show me old clips. This is so much fun. knowing that it's Jersey, as soon as you start reading one of the paragraphs, you're like, oh, fucking kill me. Yeah, it's so intense. And then if anyone has a differing opinion, they say the meanest shit to each other. It's not like a fun debate. And it's like, it's just frustrating because again, I think you should get out on Twitter and just start leaving some comments. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:07:37 Come on. Nope. Nope. Not going to do it. And like, no, make your own person. No, you know what you should do? Make my own burner. Make a burner.
Starting point is 00:07:44 Yeah. What should I call it? Roan J all day. Don't say it on the air. Maybe start there. Someone's going to have that account. They're like, I steals burner account. No, I don't want to get involved.
Starting point is 00:07:58 And like, we love talking about these shows. That's how this podcast started. We love watching these shows. We like talking about them all the above. With this one in particular, it gets difficult as we get into the thick of it, especially once sides really start being taken, drama starts really happening. It gets difficult. We're going to do our best to navigate these waters.
Starting point is 00:08:18 from the mindset of let's have some fun it's not going to go well let's do this how about we just do what we normally do and not let the comments affect us i like that let's try that one let's try that one let's give that a whirl i can't wait to read them though no yeah and then we just laugh them off but for those of you listening we had our live show last friday down in dc at union stage dare i say it was our best one yet they just keep getting better it was so much fun we an absolute blast with Ryan Bailey, with Candace, and with Chris. Like, it was such a fun time. The venue was awesome.
Starting point is 00:08:56 The area, the wharf down in D.C. Oh, dude, that wharf was awesome. Yeah, it was so cool. Yeah. And we stayed and, like, we went all out this time. Yeah, we decided to go all out, mostly because the hotel was really close to the venue. But, yeah, we went all out. Yeah, but it was super fun.
Starting point is 00:09:10 And ended at the night at the MGM Casino down there. Uh-huh. Got smoked in blackjack. Yep. ate some noodles at midnight, and then I ordered a pizza at around 1.30 in the morning when we got back to the hotel. Hell yeah. All in all, roaring success.
Starting point is 00:09:26 Wonderful night. All in all, great time. And you can actually listen to part one of that episode is out. Part two will be out actually today. So if you're listening to this, the second part is going to drop today as well, so you can listen to the whole thing. Unfortunately, we could not capture video. We just got the audio, but you can listen.
Starting point is 00:09:42 We've already dropped the first part, like I said. So go back, listen to that. And you can hear how much fun we have, and then you can buy tickets to the next show. I will say this, and this isn't even a plug, there are seven tickets left to Boston. Yep. That's it. There's only seven. It's June 14th, Friday night in Boston.
Starting point is 00:10:01 Like I said, seven spots left. If you want to come, get those tickets, like, as you're hearing this, because I imagine they will not be available within a week. Yep. That's a good way to do it. But other than that, it's time. It is time to dive into Jersey. It's rip off this Band-Aid. It's still festering from last year, but it's time to dive back in.
Starting point is 00:10:22 And I will say this about the show. There's something about Jersey, and it's always kind of resonated with me. I don't know if it's because we're from Philly, and, like, it's more relatable. Like, not the drama in particular, but just, like, the characters, like, accents. The accents, perhaps. I don't know. There's something, that's why it bugs me that I can't enjoy it more because I just dread the social media aspect of it. because I want to like it.
Starting point is 00:10:46 I really do want to like it. I wish that they would get off this Melissa Teresa bullshit. It seems like we might get a reprieve because Melissa is refusing to talk about. Sure, she is, yeah. For now, we get clips from like the last, that was the whole thing. Let's just jump. Well, let's just jump right in. And I have a feeling about this.
Starting point is 00:11:03 Okay. The fact that they showed us something, a big blow up that happened three months down the line, and I'm assuming it's probably the finale or very close to it, the fact that they show that in the first what you're going to predict episode means that this fucking season is going to suck yeah I was going to say can I predict your prediction yeah you know you knew it all along you can tell as soon as I started talking about it
Starting point is 00:11:24 the fact that you're going to show us what's probably the climax of just a terrible season in the first few seconds of the first episode means hey hey hey hey make sure you guys hang out because this is going to get crazy it's no yeah it's uh it I don't know I'm going to try to be cautiously optimistic. I'm just cautious right now, but hopefully that optimism will trickle
Starting point is 00:11:47 in somewhere. I tend to be an optimistic person. Well, the best part is, I bet you that huge thing at the end of the season sucks too. You show some broken glasses everywhere. I bet somebody just tripped and fell. No, I think it's going to blow. I'm just waiting to be let down. Well, let's dive
Starting point is 00:12:03 into this one. Like you said, we start out with that montage with Dolores just sitting at the table alone. It's very dramatic. I did appreciate that, actually. And we get a big three-month earlier and as that's happening Nico this dog I don't know who is that Melissa's dog
Starting point is 00:12:18 yeah he's on the curtain yeah god damn it get these dogs trained this can't keep happening well I think that dog was at least a puppy based on what that it's little no no well partially but also because her daughter was laying in bed with the dog and the dog had a diaper on five seconds later
Starting point is 00:12:35 I hope maybe it was just a puppy I hope it's a puppy because I'm sick of poorly trained dogs little dogs that they're little bladders they're just peeing all over the place don't do not do that give them excuses i need to have some fun we start out with the futas and they got the the whole family coming over we got to give a shout out to john futa who looks like a different person and like we obviously see why do we have to shout about just because he lost so much weight he looks good okay i'm going to give him some props sick he's trying to be a housewife
Starting point is 00:13:04 okay i'm still giving that that's why he did this this is his show now regardless they are meeting with the family and everything and they're talking about Fessler's surprise party and Fuda was told that she wants to invite everybody Fessler wants everybody to be involved so she texts Teresa she texts Jan Aiden and Teresa actually did
Starting point is 00:13:25 respond. Jan Aden did not still shows up but didn't respond to the text message and has to preface it all with we're not building a bridge we're not we're not mending this relationship I'm simply inviting them because I was told to and I it just sets up like a precedent for the
Starting point is 00:13:41 entire season where it's like all right the lines are firmly drawn in the sand we're going to see no movement there's going to be no movement this side versus this side once again it's still teresa versus melissa seem but speaking of we get to see melissa and a lot of the the beginning of this episode is just check-ins you got melissa and antonia's going to college you got teresa and gabriella's going to college to michigan boo but after we check in with everybody we get Teresa and Louie and they're sitting down. They're going through the wedding album. One funny comment from that.
Starting point is 00:14:14 Teresa's like, I was mad at God for a while. Like, why did I have to go to jail? It's like, because you broke the law. Let's not forget about the details of why you went to jail. Like, I don't care that she went to jail. It's not God's fault. Yeah, but leave him out of it. What the fuck?
Starting point is 00:14:29 Or her. What happened, God? You broke the law. Therefore, you must go to jail. That's your fault, not God's fault. But it's been one year of marriage for these two, and they're getting ready to go to Fessler's party. They're both going to go, and they have not seen Joe or Melissa since the reunion. But as they're discussing it, they're trying to just, like, navigate forward in this in some way, shape, or form.
Starting point is 00:14:52 And I guess that at some point, Louis had texted Futa to clear the air, have a cup of coffee. I actually respect this move. I will say this, and here we go, people are going to be, see your team this, that. No, I do believe that everything that Louis does is calculated. I think that he has an agenda when he's, like, trying to get Fuda to come meet with him and have coffee. Could be wrong. Yeah, but I think, yeah, I mean, it's calculated in the sense that he knows what's going to happen if he tries to have this conversation at Fessler's party. I agree.
Starting point is 00:15:22 And the other end of it is Fuda wants to have the conversation at Fessler's party because, one, the cameras are rolling. Again, he's trying out to be a housewife. Two, all of his boys are there. Joe's going to get involved. I don't even know where the fuck Joe Bonino stands, but he feels more comfortable doing it there in a bigger setting because it's good for the show and it makes him look better or whatever the fuck he's thinking.
Starting point is 00:15:43 Louis wants to do this one-on-one because he wants to avoid that. And it's also sort of away from cameras, but he can kind of control it. So it's just like a push and shove and it's just never going to happen. No, it's not going to, and it doesn't because as we find out later, Louis had a business meeting in Florida that he really had to get to. He didn't have a meeting. Yeah, he didn't want to go.
Starting point is 00:16:02 Like, what? Yeah. I thought so, too. But we do get to check in with Fessler, and Fessler is, like, my favorite. She's such a great addition. She's great. She's the best friend of. I agree, firmly.
Starting point is 00:16:12 And she's learning guitar, and it made me laugh because when I learned how to play guitar and I was getting lessons, like, way back, the first song you learned. I didn't know this was Amazing Grace. Is it? And, like, she was playing another one. I was, I went the Saints Go Marchy game. Those are two because it works on chord progressions. So she was playing, I was like, oh, shit, that's what I learned to play first.
Starting point is 00:16:32 But were you singing, too? God, no. Yeah, right? I can't sing when I play. Yeah, no. No, it's tough. It's tough to get the chords and the voice to work together. I've seen many a person show up at a high school party with a guitar and start singing when nobody asked them to do it.
Starting point is 00:16:48 Really? Who? Not at our parties. Oh, there's a couple in, like, the Northeast, yeah. Oh, God. Yeah, dude. They actually did? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:54 Who does that? Losers. What do you think happens? Do you think it's like the movies where, oh, cool guys. Shicks are going to love me? I just think of a scene from Animal House when Blueda, like, breaks the guitar against the wall. Pretty much, yeah. Kind of what I wanted to do.
Starting point is 00:17:06 But Marge arrives and gifts Jen a vibrator. And Jen's happy because now she doesn't have to use her toothbrush. Again, this comes up a lot when we're discussing, like, the women buying gifts for one another. There's a lot of vibrators. A lot of vibrators being purchased. A lot of sex toys. A lot of double-sided dildos. Yeah, we get to talk about that later, too.
Starting point is 00:17:29 I would just love one day I might do it and just like, here, bro. You got your fleshlight? Don't be weird. You're going to follow up a couple weeks later and ask me how it is? That's, see, but you're proving my point. The difference is so different. I know. It's way grosser for us.
Starting point is 00:17:46 Yeah, no. And it just is. And it's okay. But it's just so funny to me. We need girls to sound off in the comments because do you ask like weeks later, how was it? Oh, do you check back in? You check back in. Oh, interesting.
Starting point is 00:17:57 Because, you know, if you get somebody like a cool gadget, not sexual related, you might ask a few weeks later, how is it? you do that with a vibrator I don't know would you do it with a flashlight no I wouldn't but that's the thing you wouldn't give me the fleshlight
Starting point is 00:18:10 the first place yeah for each other and like they shouldn't that's weird like this I don't find weird if I bought you a sex toy that's fucking weird bizarre yeah
Starting point is 00:18:17 yeah anyway but we check in with Marge and she's talking about how she has too much going on not herself lately she's all go go go and we find out that her stepson got engaged
Starting point is 00:18:26 and as we know Jan her ex husband has passed away so she's dealing now with being the solo parent, which she hasn't done before. And even though they were divorced, she says our family was always solid. We always leaned on each other for family stuff. So I felt for Marge here, and she, by going through everything she's going through, it has so much going on, I should say. She really hasn't processed this whole thing. So I'm curious how that's going to weigh in on the season, because
Starting point is 00:18:51 obviously that's going to affect it and take an emotional toll on you. More than anything, I mean, it's going to give Marge something a little different because usually we just see her not sharing her personal story, not going too far into anything that she's going through. This is going at least episode one. She's showing that something else is going on. So it'll be interesting to see if she has enough time to play with other people's emotions and marriages and stuff. That's a good point. She's got some shit going on in life. And I guess a challenge for her would be like, is she going to continue being open about this throughout the season? Because that would be a sign of Marge or a side of Marge that we really haven't seen, at least for
Starting point is 00:19:29 the last two years. Because we've covered this now. This is our third season of Jersey. Yeah. So we haven't really gotten a glimpse too far into like what's going on with March. So maybe this is a window in. I'm going to try to not say what I think is going to happen. No, you don't have to. Nope. Just hold on to that. Let's try to not watch this show that way. How about that? Because we do know how it's going to happen. And you know what? I'm just not going to speak it into existence. Yeah. Let's just hope for the best. Uh-huh. Cautiously optimistic. See, we're doing it. Although I will say we are Mark safe, episode one without Marge screaming.
Starting point is 00:20:01 Marge screaming is probably the worst thing on television. That's a good point. Marge really gets into it. She just... Yeah, Marge Jr. just goes off. And this is just something that has really weird... She went off on Fessler last year. I know. They're tight.
Starting point is 00:20:15 But Marge asks Fessler to go to dinner, which we know is a guy's. She's actually trying to get her to the surprise party. And Fester does say, you know, it was nice that Teresa actually called me and wished me a happy birthday. and Marge shuts it down quick Don't talk to me about her She's dead to me And after the shit
Starting point is 00:20:34 That she pulled with my son Which I get by the way Because Louis had somebody call Was it Louis that called? Who called her son's office Like place of work? Is PI or something maybe? Something ridiculous
Starting point is 00:20:44 Maybe who the fuck even knows dude I don't know man Again like I forgot But that's the other thing is This is coming from Marge Who has done countless shit Against other people
Starting point is 00:20:54 So for her to take a stand now And be like No that's too far Like what have you done? And you've done. You've done worse things. But that's the whole thing on this show is everyone goes, tit for tat, tit for tat all the time. And then when it comes to them, they don't see that they've done anything wrong. They put a finger on the other side of the field.
Starting point is 00:21:09 It's just so frustrating. And Marge says, I'm over it. Good, because so are we. But we move on to Louis and Teresa and Dolores and Polly. They're all having dinner. Polly gets sick from Italian food? Supposedly. Is that just an Irish thing?
Starting point is 00:21:25 I mean, I've eaten Italian food my home. whole life, but I'm not from Ireland, so I can't really speak on that. That's, yeah. But I imagine maybe. Yeah, I know. Meatballs? Meatballs. Imagine not eating like pasta your whole life.
Starting point is 00:21:40 No, I don't think it was from the pasta. I think it was from the meatballs. Maybe he had a bad meatball. Maybe he just had a bad meatball. And that just turned him from. Oh, maybe. I mean, that happens. I had Popeye's chicken.
Starting point is 00:21:49 I used to eat it all the time. He's from Ireland and he's been living in Jersey for how long and he hasn't had Italian food? That's what I'm saying. Jersey? I know. Jersey? I heard you.
Starting point is 00:21:59 Playoffs. Meatballs? So he gets a steak medium well instead, but oh, whoof. Hockey puck. But Louis, in this moment, because they're all talking about the marriage and her and Teresa are so happy, blah, blah, blah. And he, like, awkwardly is like, when you're putting a ring on it, big guy? I can tell it's one of those things, too, where you just like, and I don't know if this was editing or not, but when it pans back over to Louis's face, you can tell he's, like, a little nervous now.
Starting point is 00:22:26 He's like, oh, that didn't work. That didn't land at all. You're not laughing at all. Yeah, no. I think this is maybe, maybe we actually see Louis take a step back from just saying dumb shit all the time. That was not, well. And popping off. I don't think so.
Starting point is 00:22:38 I think in this moment, he got checked because he scared of Paulie a little bit. Yeah. And was like, oops. And I think exactly what happened was this is going to bring up the divorce conversation again. And clearly him and Dolores have had this conversation probably. They say they have it every day. Yeah. So I'm sure that in that moment, Paul is like, fuck.
Starting point is 00:22:56 why did you do this? The only reason that I say that maybe Louis is taking a step back is because in the past he would have relished the idea of going over to Fessler's party and having a big chest-to-chest conversation with Fuda and he didn't do that
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Starting point is 00:25:24 And I, doesn't seem like we got anywhere towards the end of the season, just based off of the way they were talking. So I just, I don't know. It's just, it's a long time in reality TV to keep this going and not have the pressures, especially when you go to your confessionals and you're saying, we talk about this every day. Somebody brings it up. When are you guys getting married? Every single day, like, that's a lot of pressure. Maybe you just do it. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:25:45 I mean, just get divorced at least. Yeah, at the very least. Get the ball rolling. Yeah, to start there. Especially when he said last year, didn't he say he already had a ring for her, too? like he was already shopping so like it's just i don't yeah yeah i was like you're not nuts now you're good but they start talking about fessler's party and that you know louis brings up that i i texted fuda and asked if he could meet for a cup of coffee and fooda said appreciate the text but i'm just
Starting point is 00:26:08 going to talk to you at the party and he's like you know men men need to sit down like if we're going to do this we're going to sit down and talk face to face i will say this i do agree that if you're going to hash it out do it in a private one-on-one yeah one on one somewhere where you can get to the bottom at the very least like what you're hoping for is maybe not friendship but but hey we know where we stand you go your way i'll go my way let's just drop this shit i agree with you i think that fooda is taking the stance as we find out later of you know he disrespected my family disrespect to me why would i give him the time of day i don't think that's it i think that this is meant to or he wants this to be on screen so he's saying it would be on screen i know
Starting point is 00:26:51 but maybe this is jersey so like the house husbands for whatever reason get the same amount of stage as the women do so i don't really understand any of that but this would be on camera yeah it's just not going to be in the same light that i think fuda would want where he wants this big blow up at a big party because that's jersey my wife's been watching new jersey for 15 years her old username was uh bravo fam one two three four so she knows how this goes down we got to do it this way or this way alone so i think that's where he's coming from and that definitely could be you And I think what's bumming me out about the dudes is, like, we like the dudes and we like the scenes where they're, you know, having fun, whatever. What they're doing now, I think those days are past, too. I agree. And, like, when they get overly involved, we cannot forget that this is the real house wives of New Jersey. Like, the women are the stars of the show. Yeah. If the dudes are going to get involved, it's for the comedic relief when they're going golfing and making dick jokes and all that nonsense where we get like a five minute at most of seeing.
Starting point is 00:27:51 them be idiots like that's funny and you get to see the camaraderie that's cool i don't need to see the drama between the dudes all season that's not why we watched this but that also is concerning to me what you wanted to talk about in the beginning of the show getting the clip from the finale like oh this is probably going to be a dud it's concerning to me that we're leading off with with husband drama also you don't have to tee it up and have crazy drama episode one you could have eased into it but regardless the fact that the dudes are taking center stage is alarming yeah and it's also taking away from when they are funny and comedy comedy relief comedic relief there's not going to be any comedic relief i don't think so either i think they're too serious now they're getting overly involved
Starting point is 00:28:28 that's not their role on the show you know what i'm saying so it's like it's a dangerous game to be playing overall it's even more alarming that it's episode one so we'll see how it goes from there but i guess teresa and daniel are cool they've squashed things or at least are amicable now which is nice it seems like they're good the way that teresa spoke about daniel was that she loved her. Yeah. He was a great girl. They worked through whatever.
Starting point is 00:28:52 It was, honestly, at the end of the day, what it happens is you just need to bow down to Teresa. That's what it is. I think Danielle did that. I think Danielle found herself because at the end of the last season, she found herself in No Man's Land where she really didn't have friends. You think she kissed the ring. And she kissed the ring.
Starting point is 00:29:06 Yeah. She had to have. Probably. This is where we start. Now we're getting back into it. We're getting back right where we left off last year. Well, at the reunion, Frank told Louis, because they're cool now. And he told everybody met before the reunion and agreed.
Starting point is 00:29:18 to take Louis down. And another thing I heard was Bessler said, you guys didn't execute the plan. And Pauley actually says, like, actually, I heard that too. You'd have to be deaf not to hear that. Mm-hmm. But is that a little Irish accent at the end of that? Aye.
Starting point is 00:29:31 All right. That was good. I can do Irish. But I'm glad Dolores gets a confessional here because in my mind, I'm like, if I'm going into a reunion, I'm meeting with my teammates beforehand to get our game plan. You know how these things go, especially Jersey reunions. they're different.
Starting point is 00:29:49 They're way more volatile. People come with all kinds of receipts. Private investigators, apparently, paid commenters, paid content creators. There's a lot of shit to get in line. So when you're playing this much behind the scenes, you need to meet up to make sure your stories are straight. It seemed like that during the reunion last year, too, where if they did have a game plan, there wasn't any execution. It was not. It was very messy.
Starting point is 00:30:13 And it was mostly just Teresa versus Melissa and neither of them actually talking to each other. He was yelling over. And there was just nothing to be had, and it was three parts of absolutely nothing, until the very end of the third part, where Fuda was the one who called out Louis for everything. Yes. That's not the person that you should have spearheading. No. You should have someone on the other side spearheading in, or I don't know what the hell you're supposed to do.
Starting point is 00:30:33 Mard should go after. I'm like, all these people could have formulated something to do it, and they didn't. My thing is Fessler being the one saying you didn't execute. Interesting. Interesting. Very interesting. Because we've known her, and maybe she's going to take. a different step this year. I don't really know.
Starting point is 00:30:48 But we've known her to be the middleman. Relatively neutral. She's the only comedic relief on the show. Yeah. She's the only one that we get a little funny scene here and there with her mixing it up, wherever she's going about. So for her to be the one to say you didn't execute was interesting. I thought that was too. And I also
Starting point is 00:31:04 like that Teresa goes on to say people just don't want to see us happy. And Dolores quickly is like, let's just toast. Like we're not doing this shit again. We got it. We know how last season went. We don't need to go back down this road. Cheers, everybody. let's drink. This is when we get to Fessler's 55th, and Teresa and Jen are in the car on the way there.
Starting point is 00:31:22 It's our first, I guess, Jen Aiden was off in Italy when they filmed the first couple of scenes, but we find out that Louis has a business meeting in Florida. Where's Bill? Surgery. As per usual. Is he in the pool house? He's in the pool house. He's in the pool house.
Starting point is 00:31:37 Uh-huh. I think he's in the pool house. We get to Fessler's 55th, and everybody arrives. We get to see Danielle and Fuda, Rachel Fuda. I just call the food as food a period. Just fooda. We've got to figure out which what I'm talking about. But Fuda and Danielle are starting from scratch,
Starting point is 00:31:53 and we had high hopes for this duo last year and hoping that they would kind of usher in somewhat of a new era of Jersey. And we even got a couple of optimistic moments where, ooh, there's potential here, quickly squashed because the Melissa and Teresa nonsense, and that was they both picked aside. They were both paired up against each other. It turned out to not be what we wanted. I'm glad that we have a chance to see them.
Starting point is 00:32:16 try to mend this friendship and move forward from this because we do we need we need some new shit to root for on this show to give us a hope for the future whatever that future may look like but we go back to teresa and jen in the car and this is what's going to get really hard for me this is going to get really frustrating and really difficult because they start talking about oh there's some kinky shit on social media around fooda and it something about a double-sided purple dildo. Yeah. I didn't see this.
Starting point is 00:32:47 Did you see this? I didn't see. There was so much shit that came out. I remember the drug dealer thing, of course, because we even talked to them. Not even as like a, hey, we don't believe any of this. It was like a, do you want to talk about this shit? Yeah, you want to share your side of things going on. I do kind of remember that.
Starting point is 00:33:04 And, you know, there's a couple of, I guess we don't have to name them by name. No. We probably shouldn't do that. But there's a couple of accounts out there that decided to try to drum up as much shit about John Fuda as possible. And I think that was part of it. And it's from, like, his ex or baby mama or whatever, as he says, that it was, you know, all bullshit.
Starting point is 00:33:24 It's all slander. It's all things because she's upset at me. She's in prison, by the way. She's in prison. Or she was in prison. I think she's out now. She's in, like, a psych ward or something. What he was saying tonight or last night, it sounds like she's still in prison because
Starting point is 00:33:36 you said she's in prison. Yeah. I don't know what the hell any of that was. It's just everybody's trying to do a smear campaign. And sometimes a double-sided dildo comes. out of it. Yeah, everyone knows that. Purple, apparently. Purple. I don't want to keep saying it. DBD. DSD. A purple D. Purple D. Purple D. Nope, that doesn't sound good either. And we just stop talking about the, uh, that's called, uh, old purple. Old purple. That's
Starting point is 00:34:07 what we call it. Purple, yeah, old purple. Purple rain. Purple rain. Now we're talking. All right, there purple rain there we got there but their comment of yeah there's so much shit that came out on social media it's like well yeah because you two are feeding this shit teresa feeds it to jen jen feeds it to accounts and this isn't hearsay anymore we have emails receipts proof timeline screenshots we have all this shit we've seen it i've read it at nauseam because for the past three weeks it's been the only thing on most accounts is what's been going on behind the scenes on social media media, which should be captivating, but instead it's just frustrating because you know that what we're watching on TV, we already have to decipher between the bullshit, what's real, authentic, and what's been overproduced. Now, when you see these two talking about social media, I'm like, yeah, I don't believe though. Like, you guys fed this to them.
Starting point is 00:34:56 And this is, it's just like ushering in a new era of housewives that Bravo just needs to nip in the bud. You can't be doing this shit. Like, what started with Salt Lake, when they started talking about that, and obviously, look, the Monica thing was a good drop. Nobody saw it coming or I guess some people did, and they always get mad at us for saying nobody saw it coming. The majority of people didn't actually see it coming and it was a great break and it was a lot of fun.
Starting point is 00:35:17 And Monica's gone. Yeah. That's what happened. Monica did all of that and she's no longer on the show because people don't want to talk to her. What do you think is going to happen here or one of your better franchises that's doing really well if somebody comes out and says, oh, I've been getting all of this information fed to me and it's going right to my account and they're paying me for it. It's not going to be a good look. So Bravo needs to get this shit under wraps and hopefully this is not just the tip of the iceberg. This is the whole thing.
Starting point is 00:35:42 There's no way. There's not a way. I know that there's more and obviously, you know, look, can you imagine? Jane Aidan was buying strollers for these creators. She was buying them all sorts of shit, sending them money. Like, this is collusion. It's collusion at the highest level. This is why I said, I feel like this is a goddamn election.
Starting point is 00:35:59 Yeah. This is reality TV we're talking about. I'm just going to move forward without remembering. I cannot. I can't. Okay. I can't because they keep bringing it up. But whatever.
Starting point is 00:36:09 We move on and we get Melissa. and Dolores and they're talking about the divorce thing again and I guess that you know Frank is uh he's still with with his girlfriend and obviously thinking about getting married this is where Dolores tells us yeah we're asked about the marriage question literally every single day and we also find out in this moment it's been 10 years that they've been separated she hoped that it would be done at this point I have a feeling this is going to come back up this is going to be a bigger deal than it actually is right now I think she's trying to be cool but it's clearly eating it hurt
Starting point is 00:36:42 and it's clearly eating at Pauley because of the comment that Louis made it was like stone-faced like we're working on it so I'm curious to see and like I have such a soft spot for Dolores always that I just want her to be happy
Starting point is 00:36:55 and like get whatever she wants because there's so few people in the show that I continue to root for she's one of them her Fessler correct yeah and the kids and all the kids yeah that's pretty much it but
Starting point is 00:37:07 Teresa and Jen finally get there with the most awkward hello's ever. Joe completely ignores them. Marge blows off Teresa. She said, they did say hi to each other, which is more than I thought would happen. I think Teresa said hi to Marge, and Marge said hi to Jen.
Starting point is 00:37:21 Oh, probably. I don't think that Marge said hi to Teresa. Probably. But what's funny about Marge Jr., is any time that this happens and she has a moment where she thinks she's being either tough or like, I showed her,
Starting point is 00:37:34 she has to immediately go tell somebody. Yeah. The first thing she does go, go, I just, she came up and said, hi, I just blew right by her, blew past her. It's like, cool. She blew right by her, and then she said hi to Jen and, like, held her hand for too long. It was just really weird.
Starting point is 00:37:46 Like, that's what I don't understand about Marge is Jen is Teresa's number one. Why are you being nice to her and holding her hand, but not even saying hi to Teresa? Like, at least fucking say hi. Or don't say hi to either of them. Because, as Teresa says, it's because Jen is friends with Teresa. And then Jen, that was funny when Jen's like, usually people don't talk to me because I'm your friend. I was like, that was actually kind of funny. that is funny that was a good one yeah but we see jackie i guess she wrote a book and i think it's
Starting point is 00:38:14 actually about her struggles with her eating disorder and things like that so it's actually you know kudos to her and that's really cool that she put that out there but she's still trying to do too much i know i said that too daniel walks by and food walks by and they both say hi that's not like the most warm high ever but it's a hello and she's like did you see that she walked right by and didn't say anything it's like no she did and then she also didn't really realize who it was that walked by. Yep. So she's just trying to find something.
Starting point is 00:38:43 Still holding on to the Danielle replaced me thing. Yeah. That's all it is. Let it go. Yeah, no. Let it go. There's too many reasons. It already seems like Jackie's going to take a bigger spot in this year anyway because
Starting point is 00:38:53 she's flipping sides and everybody's mad at her and just do what you're going to do. Do what you're going to do. But Fessler's coming. She's coming. Everyone keeps yelling it. I don't know why. It's a surprise party. Settle down.
Starting point is 00:39:09 Let her walk through the door, but she walks through. She's actually surprised. And this is when we get to the dudes. And Polly's been making dildo jokes all night, which is, I mean, you got to. You have to. Pretty funny. Yeah. You got to make that joke.
Starting point is 00:39:24 Yeah. And Joe, of course, the shit stir, stars are going, where's your boy? Where's your boy? And I, like, Polly doesn't stand on bullshit. At least I appreciate that about him. He's like, who you're talking about? He's like, where's your boy at? Where's your boy?
Starting point is 00:39:37 He's like, finally go, say his name. And I'll tell you where he is. Like, quit this shit. If you're going to fucking be a tough guy, and be a tough guy, say his fucking name. And he says, like, where's Louie at? And, you know, we got a meeting in Florida. That's where Fuda decided to say, yeah,
Starting point is 00:39:49 I thought we were going to talk here today. It's like, no, you didn't. No, you didn't. You know what you set up. You knew what you did. Like, this is where it's going to get annoying. If you're going to play the game a certain way, stand by it.
Starting point is 00:40:00 Don't put the pieces in motion and then push comes to shove and Polly calls you out. And now you're like, well, I planned on talking to him here. I know. And it's just annoying because the whole thing is with Louis going to Florida, if you will, food is going to feel entitled and feel like he's ducking him and then he's going to get more power from that. And he's going to say, you're dodging me. I'm just trying to have a conversation. You can't even do that with me.
Starting point is 00:40:25 You can't come to this party. Like, no, we all know, and hopefully all the viewers at home know how that would have turned out. Yeah, it would have been a blowout. It would have been an absolute blowout at Festler's birthday party. Without him even being there. And it's just because they were asking Polly questions. and Polly was not having it. That's all it turns out to be.
Starting point is 00:40:41 You were there prepared for a fight. Yes. That's how you got into a fight with Polly. So what would have happened if Louis was there? And look, Louis had enough restraint, whether it was Teresa telling him to do this or him staying home and doing whatever.
Starting point is 00:40:53 I don't care what happened. If he was there, he would have put his foot in his mouth. He would have started something a lot higher up. He would have gotten into Fudda's face. He would have gotten into Joey's face. Like, whatever the fuck he's going to do, it would have been so much worse. And it's very clear to us that you would just want
Starting point is 00:41:08 to start a fight with him. And it's really annoying because you're standing there going, it seems like you're on Louis's side. It seems like you're on his side. It's like to grow up. Also, Dolores is like the ultimate Switzerland. Yes. She is not taking aside.
Starting point is 00:41:20 Where do you think Polly stands? Not taking aside. So that's not the person you go after. And it's just, it's frustrating because he can be friends with Louis and be friends with you or not in high school anymore. Like you can separate the two. All of the housewives this season have come into it pretty much on that path where it's Like certain friends or certain people are friends across the lines, across enemy lines.
Starting point is 00:41:42 I'm sure that'll blow up at some point. It's not going to be cool the entire season. But for him to be like, it seems like you're taking his side. It's like, I haven't seen Polly take his side. He took his side here because he agrees with him. And that's what Polly says. He goes, I'm on nobody's schedule. In this moment, he asked to meet with you one-on-one.
Starting point is 00:41:58 That's how this should be handled. You guys should have a conversation because you know if it happens here, what's going to come out of that. But also, what's it based off of? Right. Just like that Dolores talks to Teresa or that they had dinner together. Why are you not going after Nate? Exactly. Danielle's friends with Teresa now.
Starting point is 00:42:15 Do you don't think Nate and Louie are talking? That's what I'm saying. So you're not going after Nate because Nate would probably beat your ass. So would Pauly. So would Polly. So it just, it was very weird that he would even, it just doesn't make any sense. I didn't understand it. But the boys start barking is what I wrote down.
Starting point is 00:42:29 And, you know, they just shut the fuck up and like shit escalates as of, of course it did. Like you knew this is the whole reason. and I'm going to give Louis some credit here that he didn't do it at the party. Whether he had a meeting in Florida or not, this is the reason why, because this is the only outcome when you get a bunch of dudes with their chest out.
Starting point is 00:42:48 All of these guys are like that. It's a very Jersey thing, very northeast thing. Everyone's got their chest bowed out. Jersey thing. No one's going to take any shit. Yeah, it's a Jersey thing. But they all, of course it's going to come to this. And luckily, Dolores steps in and goes,
Starting point is 00:43:02 we're done, we're leaving. Paulie, all right, let's get out of here. They bounce so it doesn't, actually escalated into a physical alteration, which is good. But Joe tries to calm food it down, like they're trying to settle everybody down. This is the whole point I made earlier. This is too much with the dudes. Did not need this.
Starting point is 00:43:19 Don't need to see this. It takes away from the real housewives of the show. And all of the applause, I guess, or like, the enjoyable moments or what am I trying to say? I've no idea, dude. All of the support. Support? I don't, joyful moments. Aplaus?
Starting point is 00:43:37 Fucking applause. This is our second recording. It's our second recording of the night. You know what happens. Okay? Shit gets weird. But applause, all of the kadoos that we've given these gentlemen over the past couple of years in the scenes where they're, you know, smoking weed at Marge's house, eating off the food truck, like funny little quips that we get to watch them interact and just be funny and have a good time. It's out the window.
Starting point is 00:44:01 And like you said, I think those days are gone. I think they are too. And they need to shift the focus back. We cannot have the men driving storyline. It's not even that they're gone. They're still going to do those scenes. It's just not going to involve everybody. And you're going to get the dudes talking shit on somebody like Louis or somebody like Polly,
Starting point is 00:44:18 because Polly's not going to be one of them. He doesn't want to hang out with them. He said it last year he doesn't even want to hang out with them. It's just weird. So now what are we going to get? Are we going to get, is Frank even going to be part of that? I haven't seen it. I don't know if Frank even wants to do anything around those guys.
Starting point is 00:44:31 It's just the whole thing is completely off. And we're still going to get scenes. where it's like Joe and probably Bill Aden, because Bill Aden doesn't give a fuck what side Jens on, you'll get Joe, Bill Aden, and Fuda, and they're going to be, like, what, ripping, like, beer bongs out somewhere. And it's going to be like,
Starting point is 00:44:48 oh, this is supposed to be fun. This is just like the old Jersey days. It's like, it's not. It's fucking annoying because they're going to be talking more shit than the housewives are. Exactly. And with the RBC Avion Visa, you can book any airline, any flight, any time.
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Starting point is 00:46:41 man starring Glenn Powell. Search for Raiders of the Lost podcast on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, and YouTube. As the night's winding down, Teresa's walking by Rachel Fuda, and says, you know, we need to talk at some point because your husband went for my husband. It's like, here we fucking go.
Starting point is 00:46:59 Here we go. Like, you didn't have to take it here. Of course, she does fooda says like our husbands need to have a separate conversation teresa's like well oh sorry not teresa fucking teresa's mouthpiece and her go-between for the content creators gen aiden well louis try to don't don't do that let teresa and fooda figure this out or not figure it out i i don't like when there's a third party present but she chimes in and she's like well when gentlemen and fuda goes gentlemen come on teresa he doesn't even know what a gentleman is and it's like
Starting point is 00:47:33 I feel like we haven't it's now involving two different people I guess now it's Louis versus Fuda this is the same thing as last year it's the same argument just with a different guy this is when Teresa pulls out well your husband respects me he said that he has respect for me because we were both in jail
Starting point is 00:47:51 because he was the biggest drug dealer in Bergen County I have a lot of issues with this narrative especially if he did go to jail yeah he served his time Are we going to do this all the time where somebody's past immediately reflects who they are now? Like, that's annoying because you went to jail too, Teresa, and you claim to have changed and gone through this spiritual awakening with Louis, whatever the fuck it is, this love bubble that y'all are in?
Starting point is 00:48:16 Why is this relevant? Why are we looking at multiple accounts on social media talking about John Food is past, who's a drug dealer, blah, blah, blah, blah. You can do fucked up things in your past. That's what being a better person in the future is all about. So why is this that damning? When I'm watching the scene, I'm like, okay, did he go to jail? Okay, is he a good dude now?
Starting point is 00:48:37 Is he take care of his family? Is he still breaking the law? No. Then what are we talking about? This is irrelevant news. This has nothing to do with it right now. It has nothing to do with the season. If he was, which there still is no evidence other than Teresa feeding Jen Aiden and Jen Eden,
Starting point is 00:48:52 and Jen Eden feeding this to other content creators, that's the proof we have. We have people digging in his past. It wasn't even like a information that you could have gotten that it was like privy in a conversation that Teresa got. You could have just looked up his past. That's public knowledge. Public knowledge. It's just, it's always weaponized when it's somebody against you. Yes.
Starting point is 00:49:14 If it was all of a sudden Rachel Fuda is friends with Teresa and John Fuda is over here on Louis's side, then you would have never known that. No. Well, I mean, Marge would have dug it up because Marge takes everything up. But no matter what happens, no matter what side you're on or what you're doing, there's always this past. information that gets dug up by somebody and they get they just scream it across the table and that's always how it's going to go in light of what I said earlier where I'm not going to be able to remember the content creator stuff it's going to rear its ugly head all the time and every time that Jen or Teresa says something that's relevant on social media it's going to be like okay
Starting point is 00:49:48 they probably got it from you that's right exactly it's just going to be annoying yeah as evidence and it's like you're getting this drug dealer shit from his ex who's in jail who doesn't like them. So again, even if it's true, your source isn't credible one. And even if it's true, he did his time. If he's not breaking the law now, I could give two shits that he dealt drugs back in the day. Wasn't there people last year, weren't they trying to dig up information on the show? Hi. Yeah. That's what I got. This is my point. And the only evidence that we seemingly have is hearsay from content creators. Well, didn't we have fed by Gen Aden? And I think we also had Marge was trying to, or Marge and Jen Aden were both trying to reach out to food as
Starting point is 00:50:27 Yes. Last year. That's really funny because I guess the line in the sand hadn't been drawn yet, so Rachel didn't pick a side yet. So if she's going to stay in the middle, we've got to have this information ready to go. Interesting. Once she picks the side, then the other one weaponizes it.
Starting point is 00:50:40 It's just annoying to see it. Yeah, it's just all frustrating. And Fuda walks by, John Fuda walks by, and just said hi to Teresa, and she just goes, double-sided dildo, which is kind of funny. It's really funny. In a nutshell, it's great.
Starting point is 00:50:57 maybe just you know tweak it a little bit could have had a better joke in there yeah it just like says that out of nowhere he's like what and she's like it the drug dealer conversation comes she goes it's all on social media it's all on social media this is going to get if this is the go-to response to everything dude it's like it's going to be the entire season it's not on social media you put it on social me that's the equivalent of you pulling up your photos and your notes and saying see it's on social media. It's not the same thing. And Futa clas
Starting point is 00:51:28 back with not a good clapback because Teresa, for all that she is, a has been, she is not. She is still the face of the house. You can't throw that one at. It doesn't work. So we're getting clumsy debates
Starting point is 00:51:43 on either side. And that is not fun TV for me. And this first episode, it wasn't horrible. but it wasn't anything. No. We just, like, it took us 10 minutes to latch on to actual topic because I had to go through the beginning where it's just the same bullshit. I did appreciate the Teresa turned around and he goes, ooh, candy.
Starting point is 00:52:04 Yeah, I mean, after all that. I mean, that's fun. How could you not? Yeah. There's a walking. The fucking walking, twirling candy person. Pool. Pool.
Starting point is 00:52:11 Pool. Table. Table. Fuck. This show has my head and a pretzel. I just, I want to like it. I really do. I want it to get back to.
Starting point is 00:52:21 a show not a slander fest and it's it's literally smear campaigns we're watching smear campaigns week to week i don't know i would love to hear from genuinely this isn't like a dig at people that are enjoying this like who out here likes where this show is headed i'm gonna put a poll out like i need to understand what's up even know it's where it's headed now i think this is where we are right but like who the last couple years that we talked about this it was always where the fuck are we going with this and now we're going to do and now we're here Well, I want to know who does this show appeal to right now in this current state that it's in. I think it's just people trying to find the resolution at the end of the day.
Starting point is 00:53:01 There isn't. I know. And there isn't, but they just want to know how it ends and they just keep watching. By them canceling or recasting it or coming up with a different direction. As we said last year, Teresa will be a star regardless of what show she's on. Take her and Louis and all of them and put them on their own fucking show. Whatever that looks like, great. You have Fuda and Danielle, who who knows if they can do this.
Starting point is 00:53:24 Last year, I had high hopes for the both of them. I don't anymore. Can they do it? Maybe. But this does not work. This isn't fun. And it doesn't even end if you just remove Melissa because there's still Marge. There's still now Fuda.
Starting point is 00:53:37 Yes. They're still going to go after Teresa. So it's just going to be more of the same without Melissa there, who, by the way, still doesn't really do anything. All she does is just stands there. She refuses to talk, at least in the first episode, she's not talking about Teresa and her confessionals. when she's standing at the party, we barely even see her. The only time that we do see her is when Marge comes over and says what she did to Teresa and Rachel comes over and starts talking about it.
Starting point is 00:53:58 You just see Melissa's reaction. Like, she's not doing anything anymore. I will say this. She did say that she's not going to engage Teresa. She's not going to comment and speak on it. She at least held true to that. First episode. I will give her credit where credits do.
Starting point is 00:54:14 Probably only about 20 more. Bro, no. No, no, don't do that. to me and then six reunions because it'll be the last reunion i don't know it won't be who it's going to be a long season man buckle up yeah let's get in some questions let's see how our listeners are feeling about it all right first up here from max june three how do you feel about dolores being neutral between teresa melissa i like it i like it because i don't want her to pick a side i'm sick of sides needing to be taken hopefully she sets a precedent and other people
Starting point is 00:54:47 follow suit. Like, hey, let's stop making this her versus her because it's fucking boring and played out. Yeah. I don't even know what this means, but it's kind of funny. Mave Kinar said, is John Fuda morphing into a Simpsons character? I don't even know what that means.
Starting point is 00:55:05 But yes. He is. Since Tree and Jen have decided to make John their focus, isn't he entitled to respond? And then do you think Melissa deserves a chance at being on the show without Teresa? I do.
Starting point is 00:55:24 Team Melissa or Team Teresa. Just read that. No, go from the beginning and be like, oh, it's already starting and just read off like five different ones. Well, it's already starting. We've got a couple of questions here. DTuttle 45. Since Tree and Jen have decided to make John their focus,
Starting point is 00:55:45 isn't he entitled to respond? uh ryan stoneman uh normal question guy is it time for bravo to retire teresa uh miranda e 412 do you think melissa does a chance at being on the show without teresa i do and rags asks team melissa or team teresa let me preface this by saying valid questions everybody this is not on you you're asking pertinent questions the problem is you could have asked these same exact questions for every single episode the last five years and there is no answer there is no answer should food to be able to respond sure should there besides probably not should they be targeting someone episode one no because it's not fun and we know where the season's going to go yep team melissa or team tree neither
Starting point is 00:56:32 there's nothing to stand for what do you want on one side they're feeding content creators on the other side they're drumming up bullshit like there's no answers here and it's the same questions we ask year in and year out all right so let's move on to some new questions Okay. Sarah Shears says, is using rumors on the web a lazy way to create a storyline? It's the laziest way to create a storyline. It also completely belittles and undermines the entire point of these shows and takes it to a place that we don't want to watch it now because we know it's all drummed up bullshit. Yep.
Starting point is 00:57:03 And this is actually a pretty good one because this will not be Teresa versus Melissa. E. Fitz-O-7 said, thoughts on Marge's alleged storyline being about marital issues between her and Joe. If that is the case and we get to actually glimpse into Marge's life a little bit more, okay. Like we don't usually get that. So if that's a new aspect to this season
Starting point is 00:57:28 that we are going to be privy to that we haven't been in the past, fine. Okay. I'm in. At least it's new. We'll do one more here. From, hmm, let's go with this is kind of a funny one.
Starting point is 00:57:45 uh r m lays what would you think of derinda joining ron jay she was at the premiere wait a minute yeah wait a minute i'm not against that she's friends of the teresa right i'm not against that at the wedding so that would be chaos and i'd be into it i'm into i don't give a shit honestly just leave jersey the way it is and just all these people that you're clamoring to have back from different franchises just throw them in jersey put them all there make it a fucking nightmare bring derinda fadra who else turn it into a traitor's episode yeah like who gives a shit like i monica monica actually monica would do really well on the show monica would fit in on this show yeah i don't fucking know dude i don't know where it's going i don't know where it's headed
Starting point is 00:58:30 i i don't know that's going to be a long season it sure is buckle up baby we're in for the long haul this is the first one woof woof we should probably try to isolate this on just just itself on one day. I feel like it takes a lot out of us. We shouldn't do multiple episodes on Jersey Day. Yeah, you're right. Here, here. Here, here.
Starting point is 00:58:51 But other than that, you got anything else? Nope. Go Philly's best record in the league. Damn right. Damn right. We got something to root for until they break our heart. But hopefully this is the season. Famous last words.
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