Bros & Shows - NEW SHOWS: RHORI, Shahs Reboot, Ladies of London, Wife Swap, Will and Emmy Engaged.. (News Round-Up 5/12/25)

Episode Date: May 14, 2025

What's up Bros? We have a packed rundown as we give you ALL the news and info on the 4 new Bravo Shows coming soon. Up first we discuss Real Housewives of Rhode Island and some of the rumored cast members. Also what some of our concerns for a new franchise are. Then we discuss the Shahs of Sunset reboot which is slated as a 'spin off' of The Valley. Meaning it will follow the same show structure. Ladies of London is making a comeback as well. We heard about the Real Housewives of London that will be exlusive to HAYU, but the Ladies of London reboot is coming to the US later this year (or at least thats the rumor). The last new show is known as Housewife Swap. We're the least excited for this one and not really sure what to expect but we'll stay on it and keep you updated. With all of these new shows on the horizon we are hoping that at least 2 of them hit. We need some fresh blood in the network and we're stoked that Bravo is taking some chances! TIME STAMPS: 4:25 RHORI 18:30 Housewife Swap 20:20 Shahs of Sunset Reboot 26:33 Ladies of London 39:24 Will and Emmy Engaged Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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I'm going to remember to do it one of these weeks. Bam-p-damp-damp-pam! News, bro. Why don't we just do like a generic breaking news sound? I mean, you could. That's lazy. Well, like, what if we, that's... What would you do? Breaking news. Broken, broken, broken news. That sounds broken.

Yeah. We are brokings. Broking news. Now, that sounds like some insult podcast. Sounds awful. I don't like that at all. Why don't we just ignore it for now? It lives rent-free in my brain.

I know. Well, it lives rent-free in your brain 30 seconds before we record these. The news. If it lived rent-free in your brain during the week, we would have something probably. Right, but then I forget. Yeah. And then I remember. Yeah.

News. Bros and shows. I got to have me my pros and shows. Bros and shows. Bros and shows. I got to have me my bros and shows. Good evening, everybody. Welcome back to another episode of Frozen shows.

I'm your co-host, Steele Russell, joined as always by the one and only Hurricane Goots. What's up? Our weatherman for the day. It is actually a bit of a hurricane out here today. It's your weatherman voice. Yeah, not bad at all. But it's, look, we're doing these news episodes every week. We do it last week.

What does Bravo do? They drop a whole slate of new shows that they're coming out with, make a bunch of announcements that make people think that other shows are getting canceled within 24 hours. of us dropping an episode. Literally. You can't get mad at us. We're not, I guess we could do

an emergency news broadcast at some point. We probably could have. We had a lot of shit to do during the week, but, you know, we could have done that. Technically speaking, we could have done that. Maybe we'll do that in the future. But I think it was legit the next day. And it was like, Bravo announces for new shows.

It was the next morning I was reading the article. I'm like, this is bullshit. But this is the journalist side of us. I wanted to let it simmer. Make sure that all these things were real. That's another thing. to figure things out, see if we get any more news on shows that aren't being re-contracted or re-upped, however you want to say it, like a Roney,

and then we'll get a little bit more. And we did get a little bit more about these shows. So I think we're at a better place to talk about it now. Well, we didn't... Kneejerk reactions. I didn't want to run the risk. Do you remember last year when they announced four new housewife shows and it was four like super obscure cities?

I think like Phoenix or Scottsdale was on there. That was like three years ago. Is that three years ago? I don't know. Time is... That was very early on in us doing this. that time is a flat circle it really is so it really wasn't that long ago in the grand scheme of time but it's a good point we didn't want to do that again because i think we announced one of those we're

like holy shit they're doing a show here and we talked about it and that's that's where the cleveland thing came up the cleveland thing came up from that yeah um the Scottsdale one got some legs at some point that one yeah supposedly they did have people out there scouting and they had a group of women that they like yeah because we wanted to scout there was a lot about that one and we we were leaning into that. Yeah, we did lean in heavy, and then you kept lobbying for Real Housewives of Cleveland. We still haven't heard rumblings about that. No.

If they do, I think you have grounds to sue the network. I absolutely do. I absolutely do. I trademarked that back in the day, so that is mine. Yeah, you own Real Housewives of Cleveland. I certainly do. But I kind of remember, and that kind of leads us right into it, because obviously, you know, we've got four new shows to talk about. We'll just start there because we did get a new Housewife show that was announced.

and that would be the real housewives of Rhode Island. How do we think about it? I'm excited for that one. Rhode Island is a lot of wealth. There's a lot of wealth in that state, so I'm excited to see some wealth come back to housewives. Shemia has gotten me all jacked up about seeing the big houses again and like the luxury, the fact that she's got an elevator to her room

and then an elevator in her room into her closet. Yeah. That's what I need. So Rhode Island, you have a chance to have those big ass houses. you've been to Rhode Island, right? Yeah. Like, if you go to Newport, just fucking mansion, mansion, mansion. So I'm stoked for it.

I think that it's time that we have a new city, because here's the problem. Everybody wants to rerun the shows that they know. They want to do Roney. They want to do Atlanta. You want to do all these other shows, O.C. But then when they have a new cast, because you can't keep running the same bullshit out there every year because it gets stale, then they have new members and no one buys into them because it's like, well, it's not so-and-so.

Roney's the best to. example everybody forgets that the reason roney got canceled to begin with with the og cast is everyone complained about what was happening on screen they don't just end a show if it's doing well so that's why they cut that off they tried to rerun it with a new cast it didn't land we can all admit that that's the problem so start over in a new city the most recent iteration of housewives salt lake yeah is the best housewives show on right now it really is and i think from what i've heard anyway, at least, you know, some of the rumors that are circulating with the new cast, because there are some women that were chosen, or at least it looks like they could be.

It seems like one, which is important, they know each other. That's massive. Actual, there's some friendships involved in the cast, there's dynamics, there's people that actually have some history, which is huge, which we want to see. And it's not just, you know, the run of the middle. Oh, I've seen her at a party before. It's actual things that have happened in Rhode Island. smallest state we have.

So chances are the rich people are going to know each other. So I like that they started there. The other thing that I've heard is they're moving more towards a less middle-aged woman more towards like a valley-centric type of thing. Okay. Which is interesting. That is an interesting pivot. Yeah.

And I think that they can do that. I think that that's fine. And I don't know. I can't speak to, you know, the maritals of everything. Maritals. I don't know if people. Nupsules? Yeah.

I don't know if people are actually married. I don't know if these are single women. I don't know if they're not. It doesn't really matter to me. Yeah, we talked about that. Somebody got up in arms, multiple people in our comments when I posted that, should they rerun Roney with Lindsay and Page. I think we talked about this yesterday.

And people were like, they're not housewives. It's like, name me 10 housewives on shows right now that are married. Yeah. Can't. No, because it's not a thing. Can't do it. That's no longer like a stipulation for being on these shows. So people need to get over that.

I'm trying to look up the cast right now. Nothing is obviously confirmed. For the most part. No, they're confirmed, isn't? They did, it's not fully confirmed. In the Providence Journal that I can't look at because it's behind a paywall, it says they have the full cast.

Checks about, right? Nope, nope. We can go through rumored cast members. So Ashley, oh, man. We're not going to know any of these people. Ashley Iacanetti Hyben. Hey, Bonn. Good start.

Oh, she's from Bachelor Nation. Otherwise known as Ashley I. She appeared on Bachelor season 19, and she stood out because she was still a virgin. Okay. All right. Cool. Well, there you go.

She later connected with Jared Haibon on Bachelor in Paradise. So she's married to a Bachelor in Paradise. Okay. And they have two sons. I don't think I like this so far. They have two sons, Dawson and Hayden. I don't like about this one. I like it a lot.

Okay. Darya Mancini. Okay. Let's see. Olivia Copo's best friend. Okay. We're moving in the right direction here. You might not like the first one.

I didn't like the first one at all. I don't like that. I like that we have the tie-ins there. I don't like reality. TV background. I don't care. I know. I'm just telling you.

That's fine. You should care. Okay, I care. I care a little bit more. I care a little bit about your feelings. Yeah. Lindsay Ayadaluka, locals would be familiar with the next name in the list as she has local TV experience, it looks like.

She's a former reporter from local Rhode Island news station WJAR. These days, the potential Rory. Oh, that's a fun one. Rory. Real House House of Rhode Island. Oh, that is a really real. Rory's great. Rory cast member works as a podcast host, Mental Health Counselor, and Spinning Instructor. Okay.

I can hear the roars already. It may include sisters-in-law, uh-oh, Jacqueline Tosca, Lauren Pannon Tosca, and Christina Tosca. We got a triple. Italian sister-in-laws? Wow. I don't know about that. We got our track record with that. We have a track record.

They're all listed all over Reddit as part of the rumored cast. They all paid their taxes. from what we can tell. We'll find out on the show. Could these rumored real housewives of Rhode Island cast members be the next Melissa Gorga and Teresa Judei? Scott, let's hope not. And let's see, Jenna Molo, local fitness business owner that we're checking all the boxes here

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good actually i i enjoyed i thought you're talking about like the mr beast thing i'm like no no no no no no squid game squid game the challenge which was solid so she's been on oh no shit that would have been dope and the last one that was rumored but it doesn't look like there's any weight to this one was Vanessa Carlton you may know her from making my way downtown I've been downtown before do you know my

my relationship with that song is it a walk-up song no no no so it would be a great walk-up song so Vanessa Carlton making my way downtown there were three times there was once in high school and two times in college that I blacked out

like full blackout And the first time was at Phil's house. Yep. And I don't know if you remember, but he had a keyboard, self-playing keyboard. You pressed a button, and it would play making my way downtown. I guess I thought after drinking an entire bottle of Southern comfort that I would do a strip tea used to making my way downtown. Okay. So fast forward.

It's my freshman year in college. And I wake up in my dorm room. I don't remember the night before. And my roommate's looking at me weird. And I'm like, what? What did I do? And he was like, well, you thought it would be a good idea at the frat party to, put on making my way downtown and you started stripping.

I was like, oh, okay, weird. I've done that before. A really good idea for our next live show. I don't drink anymore, so good luck. That was plan A. The junior year, fast forward, no, sophomore year, sorry, sophomore year, fast forward. I'm in my townhouse. Wake up on the couch, don't remember the last night. And my buddy's talking to me, and he's like, hey, do you remember last night?

I was like, no, but let me stop you. did I do a strip tease to make him my way downtown? He goes, how did you know? And I said, apparently that's my thing. Done this before. Three times. I've played these games before. Three times confirmed.

I've played these games before. Yes. That's a big tie back into squid games. Great. Yeah, so that's my relationship with that song. But let's talk about the cast. I mean, we don't know any of them. I don't know anything about the cat.

But I'm just saying, like, but we also take these things. You can read some of the backgrounds of it. What worries me? Until Bravo tweets it out and says, here's the cast. I'm not going to give a shit. That's fine. but like to what you said, let's say the Bachelor ladies in the show and there's a couple others, I will agree with you as far as having a reality TV background can be a good thing because

you're comfortable with the cameras. Sure. It can be a bad thing because we do not need a cast coming in trying to overproduce out of the gate. Correct. What Salt Lake did so well was not overproduced, especially once Jen Shaw left the fold. Like the two years they've had recovering from the Jen Shaw nonsense has been a lot of real moments seemingly and that's made this show run really well plus they're all friends I think it's always going to be kind of interesting because you're going to have in a show

like this especially in a place like if they're in providence if they're in Newport you're going to have old money versus new money right which works well for every dynamic for every housewife show and you're going to get the jockeying for position who wants to be queen bee who wants to set up the show who wants to be the central figure who's going to get the center lobster I would guess it's a lobster that makes sense so fucking great. It probably is a clam with a, it's, it's a thousand percent, by the way. It's going to be a big clam. It's going to be a big clam with a pearl in it. Oh, pearl. Yeah. It's going to be a pearl. A clam with a pearl would be such a better. That'd be cooler. That'd be

a lot cooler. Objects. I would love that. But yeah, I mean, look, we don't know who's going to be on this show. We can tell you what's going to happen for a brand new show like this. Lois Griffin? Lois Griffin. going to Kohog. Yeah, so it's going to be a brand new show. So we've seen this before. I like that it's not in New York because it doesn't have, you know, the shoes to fill. Correct.

The aspect right away where it's like, oh, these people are going to hate me. It's a brand new city, a brand new show. So, you know, when it's on, I'm sure they'll pick a good time slot. They'll pick a good season together. They're going to put it right up next to something else. So when we have to cover things, there's three shows in one day. All right, let's actually think about this because I haven't started production. which shows have they not really aired yet.

It'll probably, I'm going to say it'll probably lead in from like O.C. or something. That would make sense. O.C. will finish up and then you run out Rhode Island. Yeah. And, you know, and we'll get to the Roney announcement at some point. But I'm excited for a new city. I like it. I am too. I just think it's the best way to, if you want, because here's the issue that's facing housewives.

it has the risk of running its course as content. Yep. So they need to, I think this is the best plan of action, starting a new city. If this works, go to another. Don't slow down. Just give us more cities if this one works. I think that that's the plan of attack rather than...

The only city that I can think of, the only setting that actually fits into the schedule would be New York. Yeah. Where they actually go out to cool restaurants. They go to cool places. Now, a lot of the places you can't film out anymore, which is kind of a bummer. But when you think about the other locations,

it's like... In Atlanta, we don't go out in Atlanta. Not a lot, no. In O.C., yeah, we see like the beautiful houses and they're close to the ocean. That's really cool. Salt Lake, you get the mountains as a backdrop. But, like, we're not really invested in the city as much anymore. It's more about the people.

So they do need to get away from the settings. Picking a place like Rhode Island seems perfect. I think it's going to work. No Cleveland's, but it's perfect. It is no Cleveland, but, you know, it's a step in the right direction. So as this progresses and we get more information, we will let you guys know, but that's what we can look at for now is just the rumored cast. I do think that it dropped.

I saw an article I can't read, and it seems a little bit more. I don't think that the Providence Journal would be the first report. If it's in Providence, Rhode Island. It could just be a couple of women saying, you know, we were interviewed, and we're hoping. I don't know. I can't get behind the paywall. You think I'm going to pay a dollar? That's how paywall's work.

Do you think I'm going to pay a dollar for the Providence Journal? No, no, you're not. But that's how paywall's work. Here we've got the cast. That's a good point. Come see it. If you had the cast, Bravo would be reporting it. So, you know, whatever, man. You can get protein at home or a protein latte at Tim's. No powders, no blenders, no shakers. Starting at 17 grams per medium latte, Tim's new protein lattes, protein without all the work, at participating restaurants in Canada.

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No, I'm not either. This didn't get me going at all. Now, I've seen two different things. Can you clarify for me, please? I'll try. The first one I imagined what makes the most sense for a setup like this is taking one housewife and swapping her with another housewife in another city. I've seen something.

We've talked about this before. We have making trades. We thought it would be a good idea. What I've seen since then is you're replacing a housewife with like a random housewife in America. Is that what it is? No, I don't believe so. So it's the first one. I believe it's the first one.

And I believe it's only, and a lot of people were saying, you put them with the families of that housewife, so it's two housewives swapping. So it's wife swap, but it's housewife. I don't care. I don't care at all. I don't care. I don't care at all.

I think this is too soon. I think they should have seen how Love Hotel goes. I think they have to see how these weird dynamic reality TV shows go where you swap people in different places. see how things like that play before you do something like this. Like, yeah, we'll check in. But I don't know. I just, I'm going to have to clarify exactly what it is before I can even really figure it out.

But if it is what we've seen announcements of, I'm not really excited about it. Like, am I going to watch Melissa Gorga swap with? And she's the one who they were talking about. Yeah. Is she going to swap with like Heather Dubrow? Like, I don't care. Does not matter. No, it doesn't matter.

I don't like that idea. And it's just going to be like, it's going to be cheap. It's going to be dumb and goof. It's not going to be fun. I don't know. If you switched them with, like, a random housewife in, like, the Midwest, now we're talking kind of crappy lake vibes. Like, I fuck with that.

Yeah. That would be fun. I just don't see any way that this is a success. And they really haven't made any announcements on exactly what they're doing. Okay, cool. Yeah. So we'll see how it goes. But the next one I am very excited about.

What's the next one? This is a Valley spin-off featuring the Shaza Sunset. Oh, yeah. I'm so stoked for this one. This one's great. Great. And we did confirm last week, Lisa Vanderpump does get herself a little EP credit for this. Yes, she does. It is technically a Valley show. And I like it. Look, we didn't really dig into Shazza's onset.

Steele and I did a live show out in L.A. We had a couple of people out there. We didn't really watch it. I never watched Shaz. Shazza. So I've seen, so Dev will put it on, and especially back when we would have Bravo just on before it was all streaming. It would come on a lot. I love that. that. I always enjoyed the cast. I always thought, like, it's, I don't know what was going on. Why do you be canceled? I don't know. Okay. That I'm not sure of. I'm sure

that our listeners probably know more about that, especially the Shaw watchers. I've heard nothing but amazing things about this show. Like you said, we did a live show with Reza, and shit, who else was there? I can't remember, dude, I was so drunk at that show. Yeah, I know, because you're drinking old-fashioned.

We'll make the setting out for you. It wasn't a show where we had to do a whole lot. I think we were We were on stage for like five or ten minutes. To me it felt like two. You started, well, hold on. You and Brooks, my brother, were drinking espresso martinis from 10 a.m. watching football. Well, that's the thing.

I mean, I was in L.A. for the first time. I was experiencing 10 a.m. football. It was awesome. We got to go. We ended up going to the bar at like 11.30. We got some lunch. I had some more beers. Then watched like the 4 o'clock games, which were the 1 o'clock games.

Then the Sunday night game started at 4. I was all over the place. And I got drunk again. Yeah. What are you going to do? You didn't get drunk again. You were drunk all day. Then we got to the venue and you're like old-fashioned. I was like, great, great, just make it on stage. Because we did, and this was actually the worst too, because we were talking, we were doing the show with Zach.

Zach Peter was, he was headlining the whole thing. And there was, it was an ensemble cast and there were, what, 15 of us? There was a lot of people. They were switching out. Doody was out there with Luke. There was a lot of shit going on. And of course we get there and I'm like, cool, who were we going up with? And I think we were going up with Donna Bowling. I think so, yeah, Donna was on there.

It was me, you, and Zach, and one other person. I thought it was just Donna. I'm not even really sure. I don't trust your memory of him. And we get there, and he's like, yeah, you guys are going to go with Donna. You'll be on, like, second or third. The show doesn't start for another, like, 45 minutes. I'm like, all right, cool, we've got time.

I'm going to hang out, have a drink, socialize a little bit. Zach goes, yeah, you've got to get in this room with us right now. We're doing a little panel. Like, fuck me. Yeah, and then he shugged an old-fashioned, ordered another one and came on stage with a beer. I don't know where the beer came from. Well, I tipped the bartender To just give me beers

Okay, cool, yeah Like, hey, I'm just gonna stop by I just grab me a beer every time By the way, if you weren't there, he did fine So he showed up when he needed to As he always does. I'm like Will Ferrell in old school In the minute that he stepped off stage

It was a stumbling mess again Yeah, but on stage, lights out And we did karaoke Then we did carry, well, we went to a Star Wars bar And then we went to karaoke in that like basement Which was amazing. That place was sick Yeah, it was really, it was like all carpet floor

and it was disgusting and awesome. Yeah. Yeah, my buddy that I played baseball with was there with his wife. Oh, yeah, Luke came out. We had a great time for that one. What the hell were we talking about? Oh, yeah, Shaws. Shaz. So here you go.

The Shaz of Sunset are returning to Broadway a new series called the Valley Persian style. The reboot will feature Alums, Reza. It was. It was Gigi. Gigi was there with us. Sorry. Gigi. All right, so the cast, you got Reza, Gigi, NJ. Remember Reza because I smoked a cigarette with him.

Yes. Yeah, you guys are crushing heaters outside. Don was there, too. Reza and Brooks Okay, lock in still, Reza Gigi, MJ and they'll be joined by some new faces as well this show will focus on their life in L.A.,

highlighting their Persian culture and the next chapter of their lives. So, as you said, this is a spinoff of the Valley. It's known as a Valley franchise now. And like I said, the focus here is their lives out there, highlighting their Persian culture, which I think

is awesome. And if it's anything like Shaw's, the episodes that I did see, Plus, Reza is a delight. He's on screen. MJ and Gigi, from what I've seen, they also know how to bring it. So, like, this is a great cast and this is a great model. We here at Bros & Show's love when we go and replicate models that work.

Right. It makes a lot of sense to, okay, the Valley's great, and how do we do it? We had some core cast members. We surrounded them with new faces that they know and they're friends with. Sort of like putting a show on pause for a little while in its own way. Sure. somebody like, you know, Jackson, Doty, and we kind of know people and they know other people from VPR,

they haven't been on screen for a little while. Put them on pause and then give them a new show a little bit down the line. They know how the things work. They don't need to be showing the ropes. They're hungry to be back on screen. They're hungry to be back on screen. And you get other people that are familiar with it because they're friends with these people, but they've never been on a show themselves.

So they know enough, but they're not, you know, they're still like green so they can get involved. And I think it's going to work. I think this show is really going to work. I think it's going to play. And I hope it's going to play. Yeah, I think it's going to do well. We need more shows like this. I know.

I agree. I think that it's awesome. I'm glad they're bringing this one back in this capacity. I think if the Valley taught us anything, it's one, never judge a book by its cover. We were out in the Valley until it came out in episode one. Both of us were like, holy shit, this show is great. Yeah. So I'm assuming this will take the same shape, and I'm excited for it.

We need more stuff like this that is out of the realm of what we're used to. Yeah. Look, I like what Bravo is doing with this, and I like they're dropping all four shows. shows, at least the announcements at the same time, because they're all very different, you know, aside from the wife swap, which I don't give a shit about, the other words make sense. You know, Housewives are sort of a dying franchise. You've got two that are doing so great right now in Miami and they can run by themselves without the rest of them.

They really can, yeah, and they're never going to get rid of Housewives. They just need to figure out how to retool. I agree. If you're going to go to a new city, you're going to go a little younger. You're going to let us try to connect with these people and give them a longer run. And it's not New York where all that pressure builds. It's somewhere new where they can make it their own. I'm a big fan of that.

The last one that they announced was the Ladies of London reboot. We know because of Dubai, that's where Carolyn came from. So people are familiar with this. I like the idea of doing it in London. I do, city, new area. I'm sure it's going to be all new people. They're going to have some sort of ties back. Wouldn't be surprised if Carolyn comes in to, like, announce them.

They can do that. Or she's like, something about Dubai getting canceled. But I can't have. I don't know. That was such a fucking disaster. You think she's still with Sergio? I haven't checked in. I haven't looked.

I have no idea. I know Sergio wouldn't leave her, so. That's for damn sure. But I, my question is, what's the difference of, because we're also getting real housewives of London that's playing on like,

what, the Hey You Network? Yeah. Is Ladies of London on Bravo? It's going to be on Bravo, yeah. Okay, that's- Or Peacock. I don't think they've, like, differentiated. Whatever.

It's going to be on our realm that we're watching. what's the difference? Like, I mean, obviously, they're two different shows, but... No idea, honestly. I wonder if they just gave Hayu some sort of, like... Is it Hanyu or Hanyu? No. I thought it was Hayu. No.

He owns Hanyu, too. So it is kind of weird. Bravo announced a reboot of Ladies of London, which will follow a new group of British Blue Bloods, ambitious American expats, and glamorous international socialites in the city that show previously ran for three seasons, blah, blah, blah.

It's expected to, premiere this year, but a specific date has not been announced. Okay, it's going to be on Bravo. Yeah, so that there's really not... Separate from Housewives of London. Yeah, there's nothing to do with Housewives of London. What I understand from the Hayu network, which I think, again, NBC owns it, you can watch certain Bravo shows through Hayu if you live in, like, England. Okay. Or if you live in those European countries that have it, but you can't really get access to the Bravo stuff. So I think that's a separate. entity i don't think we're going to hear a whole lot of housewives of london from where we are no i think

that one's going to run on peacock like the following year yeah yeah i would imagine yeah so that's probably going to be almost like a european exclusive where we'll get some of it here and there but it's not going to be a focal point over here whereas this will be a separate entity that we get that they get all right well i mean it just seems like a lot like if they picked good people for housewives of london then what we're getting the leftovers but that's my whole point with these shows revolutionary war for if we're getting the left of what the fuck my whole point with all this is like this kind of proves my point of like there's always more people in these cities that's why i get confused when you have a stale cast or you have a stale cast member it's like

when they recast these things and you see the people they pick it's like why do we go that route you know they clearly there's more crazy people that want to be on tv definitely so why do we end up with bad castmates? Why is Britt on Atlanta right now? You know? Like, I don't get it. I'm not really sure. Unless it's, it could just be as simple as they interview really well.

I guess. Maybe they know somebody on the show, so they got a leg in and then. Pressure cooker and they just completely explode or they show you who they actually are. I don't know. Yeah, it's interesting. I'm not really sure. But anyway, I mean, it looks like they're just throwing a lot of darts at a board. I'm okay with that. If two of them hit, I'm great with that. That's a great balance.

50% I'll take that all day because it gives us two new shows to talk about, two new shows that people are interested in, two new shows that could run for years. So I'm happy about it. Yeah, I'm cautiously optimistic about two of them. Now, obviously, with additions, come subtractions. That's just math. Most notably, Roney was not re-upped.

Now, there's a lot of discourse going on. From Andy himself. From Andy himself. Original news was everybody. but he's whacked. They're all gone. We're not going to see any of the people from the new Roney ever again. I'm fully okay with that.

I do not need that. But Andy confirmed today, and he was on his radio, Andy, talking about this. And he said, Roney is heavily underway. They're currently casting for the next season and confirmed Bravo just met last week with 10 potential new women. So that does still tell me that everybody's out. If you're interviewing 10.

10 is a lot. And obviously, you know, you'll dwindle it down a little bit, I would, I would hope. There's no. Like, like, six or seven. Yeah, like, we don't need eight in a new show. I would say five. Five with two friends of. And they can potentially be promoted the following season.

He's never going to fully go away. It's New York. It's so close to all the stuff that they have for Bravo. It will if this one fails. If this one fails, it'll go on hiatus for years. Yeah. It'll always come back. The pull of Miami.

It's just too big of a market for them to not try to try something else. So I think that this does not count Lindsay out. And I think that that's an easy, like people want to argue about it. People want to say this, that, and the other. The bottom line is she's familiar. You know the face. So you're going to watch at least episode one. And let's be honest, if this show is going to hook you, it's got to have a great premiere.

Lindsay gets you to watch. Lindsay, whether you love her or hate her, makes great reality TV. So following Lindsay around in the city, like, you know, she, I pray that I'm wrong, but I feel like they're moving too fast with it. I think they rush it. I think that's what they do with Rony. They do it with Rony every time. They get so panicky about not having a show on Roney.

After Roney got canceled, they're like, oh, we got to do something. We got to refresh. We got to do this and that. And people are still pissed off that you canceled it, even though they stopped watching it. But people are still pissed off, and they're not going to let the newbies get a chance. They're just going to rag on them the whole time. And again, I agree that Roney was very underwhelming. The women did not bring it.

It was very produced. It was very boring. Nobody really cared about it at the end. But with this, it's like just give it some time. Give it two years. Give it two years. And then you can do whatever the fuck you want. If you want to bring back some of the OGs and you want to throw them in with other familiar faces or new faces, people will probably welcome that with open arms.

Well, I'll counter that and say, I don't know if a Roney franchise can be successful until you give some of the OGs a show. Yeah. Until you have them doing something where people can watch Dorinda and people can watch Luan and people can watch Sonia on a regular basis, there's always going to be the hangover of we want them back on Rony. We want them back on Roney. Louan has recently said that Durinda would thrive in a love hotel. I think Durinda would be great on a love hotel. So if you keep doing those little one-offs and if something like a Real Housewives ultimate trip never comes back, I'm fine with that. But if you do these little one-off things with Crappy Lake, with the Love Hotel, I don't know what Wife Swap is, but maybe you do something with that and you throw some of those in there, throw them a bone every once in a while so they're still on screen, it'll lessen the blow when you've got new people on Roney. I kind of agree, but I really, unless it's a recurring thing where you get to see them frequently, there's always going to be the question mark of why aren't the OGs back? And I'm so sick of hearing it. I think it's tired. It's played out.

everyone's going to keep barking about it. But I think that until you give them something, people are still going to want them back on Roney. So if you have, that's why I thought when they originally announced Roney and they announced Roney Legacy, I'm like, okay, now we've got two separate entities. You have the OGs can do their thing.

Then they scrapped legacy. I'm not sure why. But I thought that was a good plan of attack. And then if you're in this boat now and a legacy was doing well, just take the legacy off and give them their show back. Yeah. If you can prove people wrong and say,

see, you do want the OGs. back, but I don't think that's the answer. I do. I just, I don't think they're going to invest a ton of money in bringing the OGs back. I don't either. They're just, they're too afraid to do that. They'd rather just try something new and see if it works. But again, why are we doing this right now? I don't know. We just heard through the grapevine and you didn't even really announce that it was canceled. You just said, you keep saying it's not canceled. It's, yeah, well, he's saying, obviously the franchise is never going to be canceled. But you can't say that you're interviewing 10 new women and not

address the elephant in the room. What are we doing with the leftovers? What are we doing at the last cast. Are they going to be anywhere? Are they going to be anywhere? Like, they do have to answer a couple of those things. So I feel like it's just kind of weird that we get this at the very end of an article of all of the new shows that are coming. And then there's just like a huge paragraph of this season is under production. Southern Charm just started. Soho's going in July. And by the way, Roney's not on this list. Now everybody's like, okay, what's going on with Roney? Rone got canceled. Now we're spiraling. Now we're getting in a little bit deeper. And now you're addressing it on your radio show if you're Andy. And you're saying we've got 10 new

women lined up. It's like just tell us what's up. Tell us what's going on. Be clear about it and we'll at least know what's going on. Or be mysterious and say we're not sure what to do with it yet while you interview 10 women. And then you know what? Buy a Super Bowl commercial and throw the new women in there. Sure. Get us all going. Yeah. Why not? Surprise. Yeah. Prize would be great. But we'll have to see how all that shakes out. There wasn't really any other surprises when it comes to, you know, contracts expiring and things like that. Everything else is pretty much. in production. We've got Potomac's going to be in production soon. Soho was July. Southern Charm already started. Miami's coming back soon. Miami's coming back next

month. What else? There's a couple other ones. O.C's got to be in production soon at some point. Salt Lake is already in production. O.C. has been in production. O.C. has been. I remember Tamara quit and then came back. I wasn't even thinking about it. All that nonsense. Salt Lake, I know they just went on their trip and came back and there's a lot of shit going on with that. We've got the Bronwyn potential identity theft and like fraud, all that stuff. So any of the bigger shows, I think Married to Med, even though

we don't really watch it, that was re-upped. And all the blowdecks and stuff, they're all re-up. So there wasn't any other surprises. It was just Rony that was pretty much left off the list. During the Volvo Fall Experience event, discover exceptional offers and thoughtful design that leaves plenty of room for autumn adventures. And see

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Why? Why was people there? And, like, Dev said to me, you're going to eat your words? And I was like, what are you talking about? You and Shooter said that he would never propose. And I was like, look, I'm a man of my word. I will eat my words. Do I think it's a good idea?

No, I don't. I've got an interesting story about this. Oh. So I told you before we started recording that last week after the Mek Gala, I like to read the blind items. I know you do. I like to hear what these famous people are doing in their spare time because they're wackos. I think anybody that gets a certain amount of money, you start to do weird shit because you get bored. Yeah.

And I like it when they get confirmed. Now, one of the confirmations was about Will and Emmy for whatever fucking reason. Not sure how they made a blind item, but they sure did. And I'll just read this one to you. Okay. And this is not my words. This is the blind item's words. This is a blind item, not Shooter McGueter.

Speaking of reality stars, this newly engaged one should realize his fiance only said yes because some billionaire she was sleeping with wasn't really a billionaire. Will Colp and Emmy Sharrett. And he was cheating on him? Yep, supposedly. Wouldn't that be a crazy twist? What a flip-flop. Who was the billionaire?

It doesn't say her the billionaire was. I don't think anyway. Interesting. yeah that's an interesting one the whole thing just seems maybe they're perfect for each other maybe they are I just don't want them on Soho anymore god they've ruined it

just don't come back but they're they seem to be still part of the cast I haven't heard that they're gone I think that it's still listed in their Instagram profiles which for whatever reason seems to be the number one indicator of people still being on shows

as their Instagram bio because Doreet did also remove that she's no or from her Instagram bio, Beverly Hills Houseway. Is it back on there? And yet she's the only one who's confirmed for BravoCon for Beverly Hills. But that doesn't. Every other show has like their entire cast. And then you get to Beverly Hills and it's just three kids.

Well, she's probably the one that needs the money the most. That's true. Speaking of BravoCon, there's some more news. BravoCon was officially announced for November in Vegas again. And tickets, I think general admissions like $700. Seriously for the whole weekend? I think so. Yeah, $700 for like general admission,

which means if you're going to like the Mac Daddy package, I'm assuming you're in the thousands. So as we've said previously, and we'll reiterate, if we don't get a press pass, we'll be there. But we will be exclusively outside and in the casino's trying to do interviews

with people that are coming out of BravoCon. We will not be inside of BravoCon. I would love to go. We both really want to experience it. We're not discouraging you to not. Not at all. If you feel like you want to go, we're just by all means.

but if we're not getting a press pass, we'll be there. You can find us on the outskirts. I think the Eagles play in Vegas at some point. That would really, if the stars align. The stars align. If we get that weekends, I'll for sure be out there. Definitely be there. No, but you can count on us.

We'll be there. Whether we'll be inside or not is, that's up to the Bravo gods. We'll meet and greet. We'll get a cabana. Yeah, and we'll make our own sound. And we'll bring brav bros back for the weekend. We'll call it Brov-Bron. And we'll just be, like, camped out outside.

Yep. You can come find us and hang. And then go, tell us what you saw inside. A couple of times. We'd definitely try to sneak in. I want to end up on a list from, like, NBC. Like, don't let this die in. It's just a picture of me.

We'll definitely try to sneak in through the back door or something. But, yeah, hopefully we get a press pass. If not, stay tuned. We'll see what our course of action is, but you can probably bet it'll be a couple of lawn chairs out in front. Yeah. Just sitting there. We will not be the only ones with lawn chairs. Vegas. I can tell you that.

No. Sitting on the strip. Definitely, we'll have some company. Yeah. But the last thing I want to talk about, because it's starting to make the rounds again. And then we'll wrap this up. But we'd heard frequently during Scandival that there was a little bit more to this whole thing that potentially Brock and Raquel, Rachel now, Raquel Venn, might have had some shenan

that wasn't intentional. That just happened. That's tough. That was an unintentional putt. I don't even feel good about it. Nope. But there are inklings now that there's more to this story that potentially some shenanigans did happen

between Brock and Raquel. I haven't seen a whole lot. I went on to Reddit to try to dive in a little bit more. And all I found was... So it's just more people are starting to discuss again. I guess the details of... There was a TikTok that went viral and somebody brought this whole thing back up

talking about the 4 a.m. pizza trips that they used to take together. Raquel used to stay at their house and her and Brock would hang out late into the night. Obviously, given her track record with Sandoval, people started to question that. But recently, like I said, it started to make the rounds again.

I think she is planning this. She wants to get on dancing with stars. Didn't she get upset about, like, her performance on a mass singer or something? So, this is, she's on her book tour right now, doing weird shit on podcasts. but she wanted to write a book because she wanted everybody to understand

who she is as a person a little bit deeper, not just how she is on VPR. And she felt like she was getting a lot of hate and people were making fun of her all the time and she goes into her time and apparently it all came crumbling down while she was on Masked Sair. Oh boy.

And she was worried because she did sign up for Mask Singer and she was really excited about it. Obviously this is on the heels of Ariana going to superstardom after being on Dancing with Stars. Correct. And stole her spot on Dancing with Stars. So she went to, you know, the C team to the mass singer and started singing. And then she had a realization that people could make fun of her for this.

So she broke down in her dressing room about potentially getting made fun of for this. At the mass singer, she broke down? At the mass singer, yep, apparently. And she was worried that people were going to make fun of her. So I don't know. Anytime that shit like this comes out, and you're right, when Scandival broke, obviously we were all very hyper-fixated on what Tom was doing, what Bill was doing, that there were a lot of weird things going on to the point even during the reunion. where Tom shouted something about James Kennedy,

which was probably true, given his track record, that nobody really bad at an eye at. And this was also going on in the background where Sheena was talking about how she trusted Raquel. She trusted her so much that she would leave her alone with Brock at times. She wasn't even sleeping at home, but Raquel would be there sleeping,

and Brock would be there sleeping, and there was nothing going on. And now she's got to worry about herself. And at the time, we're all like, Sheena, this isn't about you, shut up. Like, why are you making this about you? This is what you always do. But when you look at it,

at it now, a couple of years removed. It's like, oh, maybe there was. And we had said that at the time. We're like, this is a conversation for a different day. That day never came. It's coming today. It could have happened. I want to reiterate. We don't have any new information. We have no idea.

Okay, so this is all a big fat alleged. It's just as likely that it happened and there was no wrongdoing by Sheena as it is that Sheena's putting this out there to try to get some relevant. I could see that. Yeah. I could see that. But yeah, I just wanted to bring it up because I saw that TikTok yesterday. And I was like, ooh. The timing is suspicious.

too obviously with her book going out so oh that's a good point yeah because that drums up more press oh interesting this might have read the book and try to figure out if brock was hooking up for kelly like you're not going to know that from there i don't know like you want to find out if brock did abandon his kids read the book it's probably not in the book anymore who knows well he don't have to do that yes he did yeah we're aware of that yeah saving that for when he makes his valley appearance eventually oh fuck that's right sheena's gonna i don't know i i know la la's definitely in it we only get sheena in it her appearance they're not like cast members but they're in the after show so they get paid for that

i'm just glad they're not in it frequently yeah i was so nervous they were going to ruin the show the fact like i can deal with a one-off scene yeah one-off scene she's on the phone with jesse fine it's funny is hell when she's on the phone with jesse but like i just i don't need them yeah i don't either that show's flourishing it's dark at times for sure but it's a great show flourishing in darkness flourishing and thriving in the darkness like bane you merely adopted the dark yes i'm bain but yeah i mean we had a lot to talk about yeah well i mean a lot of shit popped off last week we're both like there's not a whole lot going on this week and then i think that night i went to bed and they dropped the fucking announcement of all the new shows but we will continue

to do our journalism week to week and uh again this is all building towards a super special thing that we're going to announce somewhat soon. We got to get the logistics in order first, but we're working towards it. You can't tell this is a lot more fun to do, too. We don't have to stay so rigid. Yeah, we get to just like... We don't have to go through an episode

and worry about getting to certain things. Right? We get to just shoot the shit. Yeah. With our bros. Because all of you are our bros. Just like shooters, my bro. Mm-hmm. You got anything else, bro?

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