Bros & Shows - Not Gonna Build a Dynasty with This Housewifery (RHOA Full Recap)

Episode Date: May 21, 2026

What's up bros? We're back in the Big D for the end of Cynthia's tequila trip and we have just one question: Is K. Michelle simply not ready to be a good housewife? The way she goes about different issues and confrontations make us believe that she's not ready for the big leagues and that's a damn shame. While K navigates being a housewife, it seems her issues have emboldened Shamea who has been waiting for her moment to try to grab that center peach and that has us worried but hopeful the rest of these ladies can figure out a way to get things back on track. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

So I've been trying to rally behind Kay Michelle. I've really been trying. I don't know if she's cut out for real housewives after watching this episode. I'm trying to figure out if she's still going to be good for the show, but I hate the other side of the group so much with Shemia and Kelly that the fact that Kay Michelle is kind of aligning herself with those two is pissing me off to the point. I'm now questioning if she's a good housewife. I need to try to be unbiased.

It's so goddamn. I can't figure it out. As there's a drive in a deep left field by Castellanos. Oh man, it's 8 o'clock. And so that'll make it a... I don't need the spotlight. I shine just fine. Hi, I'm karma.

And yes, I am a bitch. Bravo Bros. Good afternoon, everybody. Welcome back to another episode of Bravo Bros. Your favorite podcast from the Bros. For everybody, for whoever wants to listen, I am your co-host, St. Russell, joined as always by the one and only.

Alice Goots. What's up, dude? We got a storm rolling through Texas. Got a storm of a brewing. Precipitation. Oh, God.

Oh, man. How are you not ready for a hurricane? What? They don't just pop up. They're like, oh, shit, the hurricanes here.

Excuse me? I thought it was a fucking tornado. The way that they were acting. I was like, oh, this sounds scary. It's right. And which.

This fucker came out of nowhere. Sir, it's been rolling in for two days. What the, fuck are you talking about. Poor JC was like bawling his eyes out. I was, I'm sorry,

I was cracking up when he was crying. I'm like, oh God, is it like a tornado about to rip through and he's really scared? Like I feel bad for the guy. It's a hurricane. No, it's just raining and he feels really bad about the event potentially getting rained on.

And I'm like, I don't know if I respect his dedication to the job or if this is just too funny for me. I think it's a combination. It's somewhere in the middle of those two. But yeah, the whole premise crack. me up. The idea of them being surprised by a hurricane is just hysterical and then the reaction of it all. And then like that was my whole thing. You set this thing up outside knowing that

there's a hurricane in the Gulf headed your way. That makes no sense. But the inside is so nice. Why would you not have just set it up inside of that beautiful mansion or whatever that was out of the gate? Why would we even tempt fate? I mean, if you didn't know it was going to be. If you didn't know it was going to rain or if you thought the rain wasn't coming. How do you not know? It's a hurricane. It's not rain. Level with me. Level with me for a second. Maybe they thought it was coming in early morning the next day and they wanted a little bit of both. I mean, who doesn't want a little indoor,

outdoor action? So maybe that's what they were doing. But I mean, whatever something like this happens and there's a big event, I mean, this is one of the bigger events. The fact that they had a police escort for an hour is pretty insane. I wonder, did they know it was going to rain? Was this a whole thing? And they acted like, they didn't know it was going to rain. But I don't think so. Just based off of the general reaction, especially for the people who were calling to just let her know, like, hey, shit's popping off over here.

We've got to move everything inside. I really don't think they knew it was going to rain. I really do think that they didn't even see the hurricane on the radar. Yeah, I mean, it appears. I thought hurricane season was over. Yeah, what the fuck? Where did this bad boy come from? But I will say it was one of the more illustrious events we've seen a housewife really have.

Like, Cynthia is clearly involved with. like a legitimate company, which is fun to see because we get, you know, the chemias of the world, the chemias of the housewife for Albert's like, I bought a rum company. And then she's inevitably going to tank those poor people's company. I was watching Summerhouse and then the city live last night. Bravo has her in commercials. Like they are still actually. I really thought that it was over. I thought that last year was kind of like, all right, this didn't work. Let's move on. We'll keep her on the show and see how it works. But we're not going to just like force her on you anymore. No, they are still trying to force Shemia.

They're trying to make Shemia happen. Shemia is never going to happen. Get over. Are we on an island with this one? I feel like we have support. No, no, I really don't think so. I think we do have support because I, like, actually, weirdly enough, Atlanta, I mean, Summerhouse dominates social media for me, but on Twitter specifically when I'm going through

things, like Atlanta is for whatever reason my for you page. Our Twitter is a lot of Atlanta, too. It's a lot of Atlanta. I feel like it's just like stuff that I engage with because like I'll leave some comments here and there, you know, just, just. lurking in the shadows. I don't have a fake Twitter or anything, so it's clearly very much me. But I'll leave some comments in there. And usually it's Atlanta that I'm commenting on. Most people are against Shamea. Most people are like, all right, enough of Shamiya. So I don't know

what this is. I don't know what kind of dirt she has on Bravo. I will say, I mean, orchestrated, you know, forced, whatever you want to say from this episode, at least she's trying to do something. I don't know. I guess. We'll get more into it when we get there. It's very, very overproduced. She clearly sees an angle. Like you can watch her shift her whole focus when she finds a new angle. And she just goes in like 150% on the K Michelle angle and takes over that whole thing and shifts everything that we're talking about. We'll get there eventually. But let's jump in.

We start out. We're on the sprinter van. And it's more of Porsche and Kelly just going back and forth, which is stupid. You know, Kelly's denying that she hooked up with a married man. Porsche is doubling down that she hooked up with a married man. Who fucking cares? Like it's not going anywhere and we're able to kind of just squash it. But you're seeing the one thing that I took from this is Kay Michelle is over there in the corner, like shocked that this is occurring.

Like, okay, so y'all tag in. This is her phrasing. Y'all tag into each other's ass and then you're all good. It's like, yes, this is what we do on Housewives. This is pretty part for the course across the board. Honestly, I mean, the way that it transpired too, the way Porsche goes about things, you never know if she's lying or telling us. the truth. She might just have heard a very, very vague rumor and now she's applying it as if it's real just to try to get a reaction out of Kelly, the way Kelly argues. Like, I'm not interested in

this at all. So I'm happy of like how quickly it just kind of like deadened. But yeah, Kay Michelle, come on. What did you, do you not know what you signed up for? Like you were on reality TV. You've been through some of it. I mean, the shit on on her show was probably a little bit more drawn up. I don't really know. I didn't watch a whole lot of love and hip hop, but I don't know. How are you so shocked by this? How are you like surprised? If anything, like relief would probably be the word that would come to mind.

Like, all right, cool. This is over. I was happy to see you guys get over it and then maybe try to apply that to your life as you move forward with your storylines. But I get such a red flag as a housewife when she does something like that. I'm like, oh, you're not going to be enjoyable. You're going to be like this every time that something pops off. That's the thing.

It's like she's applying real world optics onto the, situation. It's like, that's not what we're watching. That's not what we signed up for. It's not what you signed up for. Like, yeah, everything you're saying in our world totally makes sense. Like, no, I'm not going to trust you ladies. Like, you're trying to backstab me clearly. It's like, yes, that's what we do here. But she's trying to to navigate this world of housewives with a moral compass. And it's like, that's not really going to work. No, and it screams. I'm going to bring a lawsuit to another housewife in like a season or two. Yeah. And that, that's, the end of the road for any housewife. Once you start crossing those lines, there's no coming back.

I don't know. It scares me. It honestly does. I mean, she is the epitome of Twitter figures. That's what she is right now. Yeah, she goes like everything that she should say in person. That's what bothers me. She's got the smoke. She just doesn't bring it to the actual conversation. She waits till afterwards because she's like, I don't want to go off. I don't want to go in on these ladies. It's like, well, we want you to very badly. Like, that's kind of what this show is structured around. But it makes me nervous too. That's why I opened the show with. I just, I don't know if she's cut out for this.

Genuine. You know what it is. Given this episode. It's what we always talk about when housewives go to confessionals and they say something that they should have said in the moment. It's like, oh, that would have hit. I know you probably thought about that like a week later while you were taking a shower, but she does it right away.

She just does it on Twitter. Like that's way worse than the confessions. At least go to your confessional a couple weeks later and have something to say. Because then we could just kind of throw you in that bucket. Like, all right, you'll maybe. you'll figure it out at some point. If you have things ready to go and you've got real feelings about a situation, just talk about it.

Like, I don't know what it is, but like when she does something like this, like I don't want to see her crying. I don't want to see her like emotionally exhausted after there was two women in the group fighting and she wasn't even really involved. Like it just gives me really bad feelings about her moving forward. Like she is going to be irritating. Yeah. Yeah.

Well, let's get to dinner. Pinky cannot handle the booze. So she's in the bathroom, who's very funny. And we're talking about the tequila event. And obviously everyone's bringing their men. So we got Black coming down. Camichot's husband's coming down.

Porsche is bringing Big Mike. He's coming down. And Cynthia goes to help out Pinky, which is ironic, given their back and forth between the room and all of that. Well, Adave is vegan, right? I'm just going to set the record straight. Yeah, it's a plant. Yeah, so vegan isn't got it.

Oh, okay. Okay. Okay. Well, I was confused why we're checking oysters. Now, I believe K. Michelle in this. Like, this makes more sense when we get the whole explanation. There's a rumor apparently about Kay Michelle's JJ and a sardine smell, allegedly. Yeah.

Clearly, Portia was poking at that because it made no, like, you don't check oysters. That's not a thing. No, if you like oysters. If you like oysters, you just take the oysters. And like, yeah, maybe after you eat the oyster, you're like, ah, there was a little sand in there. Oh, shit. A little coarse. Like something like that.

But you don't go and look at it. Like only people who don't like oysters are the ones who are checking. So if you're eating oysters and checking, I'm going to question it right away. Right. And then so you were being shady. You were throwing that out there to Kay. But again, like, yeah, it's mean. Yeah, it's shady.

Yeah, it's unnecessary, perhaps. But at the same time, like, that's the structure of the show. This is what they do. So I don't get why we're up in arms about everything. To the point, like you said, the biggest. reason for pause for me is her getting upset at situations she's not involved in the oyster thing fine get mad about it say something you are capable you're fully capable i've read your your tweets they're yeah very good say that the first girl trip thing it's the first girl's thing but this is

that on steroids i mean at least we give like pinky i'm okay with because it seems like pinky kind of figured it out now i don't really care what where she aligns herself i still have her kind of noted down is she's going to float between the groups and just try to enjoy as most possible. But for Kay, it's like, all right, I know you haven't been on a girls trip before, but now this tells me that you're not ready for the housewife world. Like, I get it. if you can't handle it when you go on a trip like Pinky and you kind of have to see your way through everything. But once you get back to Atlanta, like you should be fine. You should be okay because you can go back to your husband. You can go back to your own house and you can kind

of decompress a little bit. Like that's, things get into like put into a boiler room when we go on these trips. So it's okay if you can't handle these situations. But it tells me right now that like she can't handle the housewife world. And now she actually is involved and you want to say something, but you don't want to say something because you're just taking mental notes. But when you don't say things in the moment and you're telling us that you're taking mental notes and trying to move forward, that tells me that you're never going to say something or you're going to do what you do later in the episode and just completely blow up and it'll just be like incomprehensible. Yeah. And, you know, sitting there saying I'm trying to be holy. Why?

Why is my only question. Why are you containing yourself? Why are you trying to not? Because look, I'm not saying you have to, you know, act up and get fucking nuts. Like you can stay within yourself, but at least address what's going on because all we're seeing now is like you're alluding to certain things. You're hinting at certain things, but you're not giving us any details on it. And then we have to literally watch as these ladies.

pull it out of you for 20 minutes and then finally it goes off. But now it's you and Drew yelling. I don't know what's going on. And then you go to the pool with the Shamiya crew. And now you have all this shit to say. It's like, well, I want that in the moment. Okay. Like bring it up to Portia's face if she's the one being shady.

Yeah. Clocker. And I don't think that we're being too critical. Okay. I think that this has been building. I think she's had a couple of strikes on this trip alone. I mean, the glam thing kind of bothered me,

but it's okay. Like I understand the housewives. I thought that was like a funny quirky thing where I'm like, okay. Completely fine. But then she complains about not having glam and then goes and hangs out with the reject crew, like the misfit toys over in the pool house.

So that kind of pissed me off. But again, that was just something that's like, all right, let's just roll it off our back and just move forward and hope that she could show up. But the more she does, the more I don't like. The more she does,

the more strikes that she's compiling. And I'm like, uh, maybe you're just not a good housewife. You're not cut out for this world. No, because Drew starts asking questions at dinner. Or like, why do you feel this way?

And she's like, look, I've been very standoffish with you because you're saying, I know your friend Black. It's like, all right. I very rarely take Drew's side. Like I like Drew. She's good for the show, but I'm not usually team Drew. In this moment, it's like, well, for all intents and purposes, Kay, you're the one that keeps bringing up the black thing.

She referenced it once. And I will say Drew's explanation makes total sense to me. She's like, well, on the FaceTime, it seemed like you guys were familiar. So I just assumed. And also, I didn't say you were fucking black. I said, you know black. And I thought that Drew had something in her pocket to pull out later. I don't think that's the case anymore because she was genuinely surprised when she talked to black about the DMs.

And she's like, wait, that was the one time that she cared about the DM. She's like, wait, you said what? Okay. But that's my whole point. It's like you're making a mountain out of a molehill with the black thing because Drew doesn't know anything, shockingly. And she only referenced it once. You referenced it pretty much every time. you've been on screen since that day.

So you're creating the problems for yourself, essentially. Honestly, like, you might know Black a tiny bit more than the rest of the women in the group, but the rest of the women in the group know who Black is. They, of course, know who Black is. And they references Hookas all the time. So they know exactly who he is. You know who he is. That's okay.

It's completely fine. It's just a vibe that Drew picked up on. She may have mentioned something to Angela over the last couple of episodes, but it was such like a nothing comment that it didn't seem like. like this was a setup. Now, the way that Drew typically operates, it could have easily been a setup.

She's pretty clunky to these things. I honestly, I fully believed that it was going to be. I thought that she was going to pull something out. She had a screenshot of the DMs that we've already seen a bunch of times, and she was going to pull that out of the table and you have a gotcha moment,

but it was going to be clunky because it's true. I'm in your camp. I really don't think that Drew was setting anything up. I think she was honestly just trying to figure out like, oh, yeah, you know black. Cool. Yeah, that's my best friend. I'm not dating him.

We love each other. But that's my best friend. And you know him too. Like that could have been pretty much it. But this is how the Housewives world works. If you keep denying it and you keep bringing it up, it seems like you've got something to hide in there. And it might just be as simple as, yeah,

I responded to a couple of his DMs and maybe I shouldn't have. But you do have a whole ass husband, as you point out 50 times. There might be a problem here if you keep doing this. I'm not saying that you did anything with black, but the more you deny it, the more other people who watch this show, other people on the show, are going to start to question things. and you're going to be in even like, I guess even hotter water. I guess, but like you're heating up the water.

You know, like you're the one that continues to bring this to people's attention. No one's talking about black except in the regards of like, is Drew going to date him? Which, God, I can't tell you how much I hate the fact that we bring it up every episode. Who fucking cares? But that's what I thought the payoff was going to be. I thought we kept talking about it because Drew had something in her. pocket about K Michelle. All signs after this episode point to no, she's got nothing. So Kay, just stop talking about him. And it's not going to pop up. All it says to me now is like

you referenced, you're nervous that the DMs are going to come out because maybe you said more than you should have. Like, that's the vibe it's giving. Yeah, I don't really know. There's maybe the other side of things, like she's so worried about the Porsche conversation, the oysters that she's worried about that coming out, something along those lines, that now she's applying that same sort of anxiety to everything else that's popping up. And like that's a possibility. But again, like you can put that back into the realm of first year on the housewife show. That's completely fine.

It's just all of the other things that are keep that just keep adding up. But it doesn't, she doesn't do anything to deflect them either, which is a problem. She just walks away. She doesn't show up to breakfast, whatever it might be. She doesn't really address anything head on. She just goes and talks to other people for whatever reason. Yeah, and as we're leaving, Shemia tries to pour a little more gas on the fire. And Kay clocks that too.

She's like, what are you doing? Like we had a kumbaya moment. Now you're trying to do all this. And I think my thing with it all in this scene and the scene after breakfast when we're outside, it almost takes away from the show because it's like the suspension of disbelief that we have when we watch these shows. Right. We are aware it's reality TV. It's like professional wrestling, right?

We know that it's produced. We know that it's not 100% authentic. But we as an audience, like we buy into that. We buy into the grandiose storylines. We buy into the overblown things. When you have a cast member constantly highlighting what makes this show a housewife show, it's like you're kind of taking the fun out of it. Because it's like, yeah, we know, but we don't want to talk about it.

Yeah, I don't even know. well, let's get to breakfast. And Pinky's alive, which is good. And Kay Michelle is late for breakfast. And then she comes down there and joins the group. And she's like, you know, I don't feel safe. Someone asked her, do you feel safe? You said last night you didn't.

Is that true? She's like, yeah, no, I don't. And then she starts crying. And I was confused because I didn't know what was going on. And she's talking about you guys say you care about people, but you're sitting there plotting and I know you're plotting and I'm not sitting and smiling in your face if I know you're plotting. Nobody's and then starts to go up.

It starts to escalate. She said, nobody's going to be plotting in my face. You know who you are. Cynthia was the funny. It's like, or Angela. She said, girl, eat, eat some food. Yeah. Yeah.

Here, it just seems like she talks, not even riddles. She speaks the same way that she tweets. Like she's sub-tweeting. And she's hoping that somebody's going to say like, oh, are you talking about me doing that? Like, I don't know what the tactic is here. I have no idea. Like at this point, just stay in your bedroom, just stay up in your bedroom, get glam, hang out, have somebody bring breakfast up for you, say that you're feeling under the weather,

whatever you have to do if you don't want to socialize and you don't want to do this. But coming downstairs and doing all of this, it tells me one thing. It just says you want sympathy. You're not going to suss out somebody, especially in a group like this. Like Porsche is not going to top something. Yeah. Yeah. Like if Porsche is your number one enemy here,

you sit down and start doing this, she's going to act like your number one friends. That's what Portia does. Even if she is, she might not even remember that she's got some plots against you. Probably doesn't. She labels out, like when she actually eventually gets to the point and she's talking to the other women, she labels out Portia and Fadra. And I'm like, okay, and Drew. And it's like, I don't think so.

Like, I just don't really see it, to be honest. Like, yeah, you can convince me if you have a better convincing argument. But what you just did inside with all the crying and the waterworks, and saying the people are playing in your face does absolutely nothing for me. Like, this isn't good drama. This is you're hiding something and you don't want it to come out, but you do want the people to come out and say that they're plotting against you. And then you can have a conversation about it.

Like, I don't even know if she wants to have a conversation at this point. She might just be done with them, which again, doesn't work for housewives. Exactly. And I'm not trying to be unsympathetic to her past traumas and her experience and all of those things. Clearly, she's rattled by this. And like, I'm not trying to be insensitive. But when we look at it from just a show standpoint, like, you got to do your job. Like, this isn't, this isn't it.

This isn't it at all because we're not getting anywhere. We have to sit there and watch everybody try to console you for 10 minutes and then it boils over. And then we get the side convo. Now we got people, you know, it's the Kay Pinky Shamia Kelly crew. Yeah. And Kay's now. She's going at him. She's like, this is what's going on.

The oyster thing was about a rumor. I'm not going to let you keep playing my face. I'm going to curse you the fuck out. Yay, go do it. Go curse them the fuck out. Go tear them a new asshole. Top to bottom. Like, yeah, great.

Awesome. But no, you don't. The other group is over there with Portia and crew. And they uncover your tweet from 20 minutes prior. So that's what's going on. so you think they're plotting against you to do something, which they very well may be, and you very well may have evidence.

Like take that evidence to the group and say, this is what I got. I got you. Bam. And then go in. The silver lining for me, at least, is they have a good cast right now,

and they've got a lot of good women on this show that will watch something like that. And then we get some funny confessionals. Like, go into your confessional being like, I don't know what the fuck that was. Like, go eat,

go upstairs, go put your robe. back on like I don't care what you do just whatever the hell this was I don't know what the hell this is all about that's the good silver lining is that somebody like hey Michelle coming in and doing all of this or pinky you know a couple episodes prior it's not going to bring down the rest of the show because these women are tried and true like they don't give a fuck that's why honestly that's why I love Angela because we still have some questions about some things that she's going to do but she handles things so well I mean she just starts laughing at people like in their face and

then she'll go to a confessional and even meaner she really doesn't give a shit and that's like the like towing that line of I can't even tell if you care about this or if you just know that this is going to make great TV like she can do that fager does it she usually waits till the end of the season to do it she's kind of just been a floater at this point but I know she's going to show up at some point like they have such a good cast where this isn't going to bring everything else down now one thing that could bring it down is empowering people like shamiah and kelly because that's what they get out of this when k-mishel walks out and she starts going off about everything that she wouldn't talk about in the room with the rest of the women she starts

talking to Shamea and Kelly, that tells them like, all right, cool, we've got another member of team here. Maybe we can get pinky out here. Maybe we can really have a good squad to go after the rest of these women and show them who's who. No, you're still the B list. And it's actually a really bad look for Kay Michelle, who's just been incredibly inconsistent. Yeah, that group has so much false bravado right now where they think they're really doing something. And it's just, like you said earlier, like the island of misfit toys in the pool house. It's like, yeah, You guys are over here like, we're the coolest, we're the best, you're the best and you're the coolest.

Now tell me I'm the best and I'm the coolest. And those other ladies are losers. It's like those other ladies are really not thinking about you guys all that much. And you're spending all of your time. It's the conversation that Pinky and Kelly had the episode prior. It's the same thing. It's like, hey, we're self-made. We don't need the rest of these women.

They don't know what the hell they're doing. It's like, no, you're actually in Pinky, you know, jury still out. But Kelly, you're a terrible housewife. The rest of those women are great housewives. It's like you don't realize what show you're on right now. And when we're sitting with the groups and Kay Michelle's like, you know, people with no talent. Like you're trying to sell a hair. It didn't sell.

You're trying to sell a house with a whole man in the basement. I'm like, these are good. These are good one-liners. Like you just do it with the group, not in a confession or not on Twitter. She's not even going to them and saying, I've got beef with you specifically. She's being vague as shit. And that can do absolutely nowhere. Like you have to at least confront them.

Now, again, if we still want to. chalk it up to, you know, first season jitters, whatever, eventually you do have to say things. Now, she did something with Porsche earlier in the season that makes me think like she can do it. If she wants to do it this way, she'll sit down with them. Like maybe she goes out to lunch with Drew and has it out with her. She goes out to lunch with Fager or Porsche and has it out with them. I don't know. But everything that she's doing right now, I'm like, this is the whole point of housewife trips is that you guys are in this pressure cooker.

You guys are in this house and you have to face these issues. you're just not. You're actively avoiding them. You're actually doing worse than actively avoiding them. You're vaguely putting it out there and then running away. Yeah. And then Shia gets to look at the whole situation and go, oh, they think that they're going to pin this on me.

They, what? What? Pim, what? Yeah. I don't know, dude. Like, she's trying to say that like, oh, you're calling me the instigator that I'm trying to create a problem between K, Michelle and the rest of the group. We had this weird powwow where Shemia arrives in a thong.

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at the end. And she takes that little nugget. And she's like, I'm going to blow everything up. And I'm going to call everyone out. And all attention. going to be on me. Center peach vibes. Boom. You guys are all just trying to take down the queen of the group, Queen Shia. Well, I'm not going to have it.

Not on my watch. Everyone's sitting there's like, what the fuck are we talking about? It literally is. We've now talked about this like three straight episodes. We know you've got beef with Drew. You guys have tried to have conversations. It goes nowhere.

You agreed to leave it alone and move forward. And that's completely and utterly fine, especially because it's not that compelling. to watch Drew versus Shemia. Honestly, the Shemia part of it is downfall. But that's it. Like, there's no other bigger conspiracy here. And she's trying to convince not only the viewer,

but the rest of the women that there's a big conspiracy going on. And look, I know a lot of these women, especially Portia, Fajra, they're going to be shady. They're going to do things behind your back. They're going to do things in the shadows. But none of that's happening because they don't see you as a threat. They don't care. Honestly, Porsche has only talked about Shamiah this season.

When people ask Porsche, check in on your friendship. Is it still going strong? or you guys falling apart. Did you guys even talk over the off season? Nope, nope, nope. Okay, let's move on. That's it. That is the extent of how we're talking about Shemia.

The rest of it is all just one-on-one storylines, and then you and Kelly being buddy-buddy. Like, you've got nothing going on. So yeah, this was absolutely like a grasp, but an attempt to try to put herself back in the middle of things, to try to get people to talk about Shemia. And yeah, it might work. It's a quick fix.

You're going to talk about Shemia for like an episode. But once they realize that there's nothing here and there's nothing digger to deep in on, or digger to deep in on, holy shit, deeper to dig in on, then they're just going to move on. They've got other things going on.

They know what they're doing. They've got a really good nose for this game of house waferry. That's it. Like, you're done. There's nothing more that you can do. Now,

we're probably going to get more because it is Shimea. So I wouldn't expect, I would rather expect that this is more of a jumping platform where she now feels emboldened. She now feels like she can go after the rest of the group. She's going to make some problems out of absolutely nothing. And that is going to be tough.

That is actually, the inverse of what I just said with Kay Michelle, that can bring a show down. If she tries to insert herself too much, the way that Bravo weirdly loves Shimea, they're going to make sure that she is at the forefront of a lot of this stuff, and that's going to be unwatchable. I agree. And we get back to the black situation outside. And again, Kay Michelle is like, don't attach me to anybody.

Don't attach me to anybody. For what we've seen again, all she said was the one line of, you know him, and kept talking. That's it. There's nothing more going on. You keep bringing it up. I love how calm, cool and collected Drew was. She said, nobody want to hear about that, that basement anymore. And she's like, that's my life. Hey, that's my life. But it starts to get ramped up. And like, they're both kind of getting each other's faces. Things escalate. You know, we're holding people back. I'm proud of Drew. Like, she was about that. She was ready to get in there. Like, it was chaos. and then Drew goes to call Black

and she's like, apparently I'm attaching you to Kaye, Michelle. This is the moment that told me she doesn't have anything extra. There is no hidden agenda with Black because she is one surprised and upset. She can say she wasn't, but she was totally upset.

When Black is like, all I said was holy shit, Kay, at a picture of her ass. It's like, whoa, okay. And she tries to move on. She's like, well, yeah, but I didn't know about that DM. But yeah, I was like, oh, yes, you do care.

Like, clearly you care a little bit. But no, yeah. I'm not going to lie, my heart broke a little bit when Black was like, what do you mean she's trying to attach or you're trying to attach her to me? You don't even want to attach yourself to me. Yes. I'm like, yeah, sorry, Black. Yeah, that probably is going on right now.

Maybe you should go on, to be honest. But, you know, we're hanging there. Just wait until we're outside of the basement, which he's still in the basement, as we found out last week. But yeah, I'm with you. I really did think. if we were going to find out that Drew had bigger plans or she had a bigger picture in mind, it was going to seep through because she can act all she wants.

I think she's actually a pretty good actress when she's doing movies, TV shows, whatever. In the housewife stuff, she is terrible. You can always tell that she's got an agenda. This was a genuine conversation. She's like, I just, I need clarification. What the fuck's going on? Like, why does she think that I'm trying to attach you to her? I don't know, maybe because I DM'd her.

Okay, that's the end of it. Great. Now we can move on. That's it. That's literally it. And once that word gets back to Angela, gets back to Porsche, the rest of the group, everybody's just going to move on. They're like, yeah, okay.

Maybe Kay Michelle's just not cut out for this. And they have a good nose for that. Yeah. And we can't move on from all of this shenanigans because outside Angela and Shami are going back and forth because Shemi is trying to have a moment. She's trying to force something to happen here. She's still stuck on you guys are trying to pin it on me. Stop, dude.

What are you talking about? This has to do with K. Michelle and this mystery plotter that we don't know that appears to be Porsche for all intensive purposes. And that's the thing. Like it probably is. She probably is being shady and doing some behind the scene shit. That's what Porsche does.

But this is, again, it's carried by a great cast. This episode is fine because of the cast. There's a lot of flags in this episode. A lot of question marks like, uh-oh. That could be problematic. Uh-oh, that could also be problematic. It's reeled in by the likes of Angela. It's reeled in by the likes of Drew.

Portia has been great on this trip. Cynthia is top tier. She's handling herself so well and maintaining the group so well. But again, it's like it's chaos, but not in the way that you want it to be chaotic. Right, right. But let's get to party prep. Everyone's getting ready. We get, uh, what is it, Joe Pissetti?

Joe, what's this dude's name? Yeah, it's Joe. Joe's showing them all the diamonds. Joey diamonds. Joey diamonds, they call them best in Dallas. But everyone's getting ready to go. You know, we have Drew with a pounding headache, which is so Drew to be like, I'll meet you guys there. And we got to the spinner van, that's when J.C. calls Cynthia.

And just sobbing. Absolutely sobbing. The whole event's outdoors. There's a hurricane. out of left field, who thought, who would have seen this coming? How the fuck could we have prepared for a hurricane? But that honestly, like you said, I felt bad for JC, but just the whole scene, I think it's also coming off the heels of such a chaotic day.

And now this is happening on the van. It's literally getting darker and darker outside. The storm is rolling in as they're getting closer. And you're just having the perspective of Cynthia, who's just like, What the fuck? Like exasperated, but still still maintaining that positive attitude, which is why I love Cynthia so very much. Yeah, I mean, look, it could have been a lot worse. They didn't have to cancel the event.

They weren't worried that people weren't going to be able to get there or anything like that. It was just something you had to move inside. So it started at a 10 and it got dropped all the way down to what, like a three, it light rain outside. It might be a little difficult going home, but whatever. People are still going to show up for their tequila. And they're going to show up for those diamonds that you guys are wearing, which they looked great. I like to going through with each and every one of them.

Like, all right, you're going to, I think you want to wear this one. Joe, are you single? Because I like you. You got money. You got diamonds. You're my kind of guy. That's pretty much the vibe that was going on throughout the house. But the rest of them is just, I mean, it's funny enough.

Shamea pulling people aside before when they're getting ready. It's like, really timing? We're going to do this. Just wait until we get to the sprinter van. Like, you can do this whole thing in the hour ride to the sprinter van. I also love that no one ever knows how long it's going to take them to get somewhere. they're like, oh, yeah, where's this house? An hour and a half away.

Great. Where's this dinner an hour away? Like, everything's so long. Everything's such a long ride. Like the Rhode Island girls would be having fits in there. No, they wouldn't be able to make it. It's far too far to drive for the Rhode Island crew, especially if Alicia has to drive. But the event itself kind of goes off without a hitch.

Nothing really happens. You get more little moments that are cause for concern for me where Kay Michelle's like, you know, I want to stay out of everything. When we get to Atlanta, we got to talk. It's like, you don't have to wait to get home to talk. You could do it now. That's kind of part of the show. I do a question, though, about what everybody was wearing.

How big was Pinky's hat? Because I've seen too many pictures online. Every time I see a picture of Pinky Online now from that party, I think somebody is fucking with me specifically. Because every time I see a picture, it looks like the hat's way bigger than it was. I would love with that to bit. I know. There was another bit with that with somebody with.

a huge hat and I can't remember who it was. But I don't know. I just can't really get my thumb on it. And I won't go back and watch. I'll try to figure it out for myself. And this is just going to be a moment for me. It's a journey for me. It was a giant hat.

I remember getting onto the spinner van and it seemed the width of the door is what I got from it. I would absolutely love if there is a bit going on Twitter right now where they're just slowly making the hat bigger and bigger to the point where you're questioning your sanity. Like that's great. but yeah i mean nothing really happens now now i'm just getting sidetracked because yeah no i saw you sidetracked me yeah no i was thinking about the uh the j d vans pictures that were circulating last summer where he just looked like a toddler and then i kind of forgot what jaddy vans looked like

yeah that's what i think everybody has it looks like a giant man baby yeah just shit his pants now if i if i can get better a photoshop i and we might be in the of because I have to do this with questions because people get distracted by the pictures, which actually is probably going to work against me. But I will start putting pictures up of pinky with a bigger or bigger hat because I might just start doing that. Just chat GPT it. That'll take care of for you.

Yeah. Until they told me to make this, make this hat 25% bigger, 40% bigger. I had a rough day. I make it 100% bigger. I double inside. I need you to make it like 4% bigger. And then the next time, 5% bigger. Then the next time, 10%.

and bigger and people think they're going insane. Because we put up a question, actually they're probably still on the story, but because we put up questions for Atlanta yesterday, I had to go to our archive. On this day, four years ago, we had 94 listeners and we were really excited about that. Hey, that's fun. One episode in. Wow, this is the second episode. Yeah, kind of unbelievable. Thank you for the support. Episode True drops tomorrow morning. Yeah, I mean, 94 people out of the gate, I thought was pretty cool.

Yeah. four years ago. So this is like our four year anniversary. We had no fucking clue. Yeah. We don't keep track of that shit. We actually, if you listen to us all the time, anytime someone brings up like,

how long have you guys been doing it? We don't know. We have no idea anymore. Something like that. Somewhere between like three and six because we always say it was COVID. And then we're like, yeah, but COVID was 2020. But COVID didn't end until 2022. So there's a big window in there.

We're actually going to forget again, probably by next week, even though we have proof that it was four years ago, but whatever. Let's get some questions here. This is fun from real old 78. Would you get a BBL? Look at those asses. Come on.

I think the better part of that is that is from... Did you see who asked it? Yeah. The funny thing for me is not only like this season for BBLs and, you know, body augments or whatever you want to call it, We watched Kay Michelle go through it, and she looked like she was having a really hard time. I mean, I don't know. The case is being made for and against.

I wish I could share who asked this question. That is fucking so funny. I wouldn't get one, but I, you know, to each their own. Holy shit. That is, that's too good. From Cat Lee P. 86, Kay Michelle knows she's the only one bringing her baggage to the show, right? Yeah. I don't know if that's the best way to put it because a lot of them have things that happen in the offseason or, you know, I mean, Drew is kind of funny because there is a whole ass ex-husband living in her basement.

She really doesn't talk about a whole lot. You would expect her to talk about it a lot more. So it's a housewife show. They do bring those things up. But I will say there's no real context to the baggage that Kay Michelle is bringing because she's only been on the show for a season. So it's not like stuff that we've talked about that we want answers to. We're like, oh, wow, that happened. That's kind of crazy.

And you're blaming three women in the group for putting that against you. That doesn't make a ton of sense to me. Yep, exactly. Let's see from, this is a good way to put it. Amy B. 526. I want to like Kay, but I feel like she's projecting her own shit. Yeah. Yeah.

Agreed. Yeah, Sarah, Sarah Hills, can Kay Michelle handle being a housewife? I mean, recent Cias is saying no, but I mean, obviously we're going to hold out hope because we want the show to be good. We don't want to hate watch. Yep. Yeah, this is where you do have to ask the question from Janice Ingram 360. Was Porsche's oyster comment referring to Kay and the eight-year-old scandal?

It was eight years ago. Like, yes, I think it's 50-50. I mean, it's Porsche. I don't put anything past Porsche, but it was eight years ago. There is a chance that Kay Michelle is just reading into shit. Yeah, I personally believe that, it was because if it was anybody else I wouldn't but because it's Corsha I think so but again like the underlying part of that is who cares I was eight years ago like why is this enough to set you off

over the edge and not address anything yeah which is like oh that girl Courtney honestly kay is losing me just tell them hoes what's up no time for it yeah exactly like you walk away and then you got shit to say and you go hit Twitter like that's you're missing the entire point of the show and like I said earlier, you're taking away from the show. You're taking us out of the realm of housewives. I don't want to be reminded that things are played up. I really don't. I want to enjoy the ridiculousness.

From Blacksmith Trev, remember the rumor that Drew and Kay got into a fight on a trip. Was this it? I remember that being their international trip. I believe, and I've said this like 10 times, so I really hope I'm proven, right? I believe the rumor was that they went to Scotland. And on the way back, they all had to fly separately because Drew and Kay had gotten into a fight. But I'm so staunchly against those fucking updates. Like, I do not want to hear what's going on in the housewife season until it's on.

And then you can tell me everything you want. I don't want to know what's going on on the off season because, one, I forget. I'm going to forget almost instantly because I hate them so much. Two, a lot of shit doesn't play out the way that people are talking about it like six or seven or eight months ago, whatever it might be. It's just so annoying. I please if you're a blogger and you do that I'm sorry but it's just stop knock it off I know I agree and like you know bravo kind of feeds into with the here's the first seven episode or seven minutes from next week like bruh let us find out you're ruining yeah hopefully Bravo's going to be distracted with summer house over the next three weeks anyway so I don't think it's going to get messy shows that intro to in the city holy shit balls yeah that was crazy to watch knowing what we know now I had to go back in Google when the news dropped because I was like, wait, are they meeting up after he found

out about West? And no, it's not. It's like two weeks before. Wait, what? Amanda and Kyle? Amanda and Kyle's convo at the beginning of it in the city. I was like, it was after. No, April 9th, the news about West and.

It was after because he even says, did you have an emotional affair with West? Well, we'll get into it when we covered in the city, but no, I know. He asked her straight up. No, I know, but there was rumors at that time. It wasn't after the official news had broken out. I Google. I looked it up to make sure because I was confused. Well, I think we've lived in the world of the West Amanda thing.

It feels like two years, but it's actually been a lot shorter than that. But yeah, we'll talk about we're doing in the city tomorrow. So we'll talk about that. Yeah. Anyway, yeah, I don't think I have any more questions in here. It's a lot of more more questions about Kay Michelle. So we'll have to see about Kay Michelle. Well, finger on the pulse.

We're all saying the same thing. You guys are all saying the same thing. We'll see if she can hack it. I don't know. All signs are pointing to know. She's not cut out for this, which is fine. Yeah. But we are at a precarious position with the rest of the season.

I don't know. I was very confident about Atlanta, and I'm not as confident anymore. But that's all I got. You got anything else? Nope, all good here. Nope, that's our show. Rob Rose are out of here.

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