Bros & Shows - Now We Got Bad Blood (Swift-Kelce Update, Southern Charm Full Recap, RHONY Full Recap)

Episode Date: September 27, 2023

What's up Bros? What a time to be a Philadelphian, Birds are 3-0 and the Phil's just clinched a spot in the playoffs AGAIN. Up first on the docket, we have to address a Taylor Swift- Travis Kelce update. While Steel points out that the alleged Eagles fan has changed her colors quickly, overall the boys are on board for this relationship. Do you think its for the cameras or is love in the air?? Then were back with the crew in Charleston and we get introduced to JT who is not our cup of tea. Rod however seems like a solid dude and we see romance in the air for Olivia. Taylor is now working for a mixed drink company and attempting to sell Day Chaser to Leva after quitting her job to follow Shep around... The main focus of this episode is Austen's relationship with Taylor. Clearly JT is in love with Taylor and uses every opportunity with Shep present to bring up how weird Austen and Taylors relationship is. He highlights that Taylor slept at Austen's house and it becomes quite clear that JT is in love with her. Shep "trusts" Austen but after the 10th comment from JT things get a little murky bro... The group takes notice as well as Craig points out that its inappropriate and Madison says she thinks Austen's in love with her... Then were off to RHONY and back to the phone drama. While we still agree this was a dumb prank, Erin's response is way too much claiming this to be the most attacked she's ever felt in her life... Meanwhile Ubah simply cannot let it go and we get our first clunker episode of the season. The entire episode is focused around this and it leads to all of the ladies joining forces against Erin and comes to a head in the hot tub in an uncomfortable scene in which Erin gets ambushed and fully ganged up on. However... as the ladies are pointing out time and time again in which Erin has talked some shit, its pretty clear that Erin is a shit-stirrer. Up til this point she really hasn't gotten much shit in return so while a lot of this is warranted, the approach was way too much. Ubah and Erin eventually are able to squash everything. Oh yeah, Jessel keeps lists on her phone of everyone and how she should've responded to them and Brynn continues her pursuit of Jenna Lyons... This episode is brought to you by Hello Fresh. For 50% off your first order and 15% off for the next two months, go to HelloFresh.com and use code 50BravBros! Time Stamps: Swift Kelce Update (3:00) Power Rankings (9:00) Southern Charm (11:57) RHONY (55:45) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Oh, man, it's 8 o'clock. And so that'll make it a... I don't need the spotlight. I shine just fine. Hi, I'm Karma. And yes, I am a bitch. Brov Bros. Good evening, everybody, and welcome back to another episode of Brav Bros, your favorite podcast from the Bros for everybody.

Or whoever wants to listen, I am your co-host, Steele Russell. joined as always by the one and only sicky magoutes what's up you gross bastard it's not it's not nice to poke fun at people when they're feeling under the weather all right how are you feeling champ once you get it together all right look look i was being nice i said uh we're gonna have to record remotely today so i don't get you sick and you decided to say that you have the immune system of a bowl is that what you said no i said i have the immune system of a greek god Even worse. So now you're destined to just get sick, I think.

I think you're going to be in my boat next week. Yeah, everybody's catching. Your gross ass is away from me. I don't have to worry about it. It's true. Yeah, I know. We're doing remote right now, and I could probably throw a baseball to you from where we live. Yeah, yeah, probably.

I think you just look out my window, just see it coming in. What do you want for me? You want more? I don't know. Yeah. Yeah, give you some more. I think it's going to be, you're going to see spikes in energy, and then you're going to see low energy for like a little while after that.

Ebs and flows. All right. You know what I was thinking about? Here's a random thought. You know what I was thinking about it? You remember those, I think it was Duracel batteries that you like, they said you could push down with your nail on it, and it'll show how much energy is left in this battery.

Oh, yeah. That thing never fucking worked. No, it didn't, but that's what you feel like? Yeah. You feel like an unworking durocell tower battery. I think that's where I was going. But we're off to a hot start. Yeah, I think that's where I was going.

And people are going to remember those things. And that's like, I don't remember Hal, but it was an unlocked memory. Somebody said something and I started thinking about it. Those things never fucking worked. And I wonder how much Duracel pumped into that campaign. I'm sure they made it all back by selling the batteries because I know that I bought them because I thought that was a cool premise. Yeah, never worked. Put it in my Xbox controller.

As exciting as this conversation is, let's do some news real quick so we can get to the Bravo stuff so that you can get in bed because I need you to rest up because we got to record another time this week. And you need all your energy. You look, tuckered out, pal. Well, look, if I know anything, this is just, this is just like a 24 to 48 hour thing. So I'm just holding on to that hope. Based on what? Based on zero things, nothing. Got nothing. I don't know.

Let me just hold on to that hope, all right? All right, I got you. I'll stop picking on you so we can get through this. But we got some things going on in the news in Philly, up first, victory Tuesday, great win by the birds, a slow return to form. They looked a lot better yesterday. Shoots and I were at the corner, reping us, wrapping the bros, so don't worry everybody. We were bringing down the house for everybody. And the second thing, the Phillies tonight have a chance to clinch, go to the playoffs, red October,

baby. I got my Philly shirt on, my Philly's hat, and Philly socks. Put your fucking feet away. No. People always want to see our feet. Yeah, but we sell them. We want to sell it. We got to make money off these things. Well, it's not a naked foot. It's not a naked foot so I can show it. Yeah, it's not a nude foot. It's just my Philly sock that my mother-in-law gave me because she's so sweet. Thanks, Susie. But in the actual news, we can't, we can't. We can't. We can't not talk about it once again because we had to watch it all Sunday. It was insane to me the amount of coverage that Taylor Swift got across the board on all sports outlets. It is confirmed Dev who's in the kitchen. It is confirmed that Taylor Swift and Jason, sorry, Travis Kelsey,

are at least having fun. I don't know if we're going to say they're dating, but Taylor showed up to the game at Arrowhead and we're going to take a different approach here because everyone else is excited, you know, two worlds colliding. Yeah, whatever. I guess that's cool. But what I'm going to call out, this is a so-called Eagles fan. Taylor Swift is a so-called birds fan, self-proclaimed at her show when we were making the Super Bowl run last year. This season, the first sighting we get of her at a football game, she's wearing Chiefs Red sitting next to Mama Kelsey, who is the only one that has a pass to root for both teams because her son plays for both teams how do you feel about taylor swift and travis kelsey i love it i'm i'm in full

support of it i don't care about that it's i always i don't know whatever she wears like eagle sweatshirts sometimes i i've never seen her at an eagles game i you know i don't think she's a true fan you personally you don't like going to eagles games either because you drive around in traffic and and slam on your steering wheel and get angry um I've never seen her in the Eagles game. Do we need context? People listen to us two times a week for a year now. They know you and they know that what I just said checks out perfectly and there's no

context needed at all. Big support of it. My favorite thing to come from this, which will resonate with all of our listeners. Swifties are learning how to like play football and like what it is. And there's full breakdowns on Twitter and it shows like, so there's full breakdowns on Twitter. and it shows like so there's four downs and you have four downs to get to 10 yards and a touchdowns worth

six points and so on and so forth that's got to be like when I was reading that I had to come to Jesus moment with what our fans probably have to listen to every week like football I never cared about football with the broad you're here to talk about football so I'm interested so look I mean you can

say that us and Taylor Swift have similar let's say chain reactions to their fans you're saying that we have the same impact is Taylor Swift. I, not magnitude. Just, you know. Okay. At the core of it, yeah.

Philly Eagles fan aside, I actually like it. I think that the duo makes a whole lot of sense to me. I think that there are a striking couple. You can't argue that. I will say to the people that are like, is this a planned thing? A lot of people like, oh, it's a publicity stunt. I don't think so. Because if you watch a lot of football, if you watch a lot of sports, like these

guys during the season are so overly dedicated to their craft in their sport. The last thing they want to do is invite distractions. So I genuinely think that this is a moment where Travis Kelsey took a shot. He slid in via the, I think New Heights is when they were talking about it, how he went to the Taylor Show and tried to slip her his number somehow. And he felt scorned because I guess that he didn't actually get to meet her. Fast forward now that they're actually a thing or at least a little thing. So I think this is genuinely. And I'm actually, again, Philly jokes aside, I'm here for it. I think this duo makes total sense to me.

I love the trepidation, though. Like, you said a thing and then immediately said, little thing, little things. Everybody back off, please. And I don't even know. I don't think you're doing that for our listeners. I think you're doing that for your wife in the kitchen who's going to scold you afterwards. I'm doing that. Yeah.

Exactly. I'm doing that for my sake because the last time I made a bold statement about Taylor Swift, Dev quickly corrected me and said, no, no, no. it's not that deep i guess it's a swiftly thing i don't know so i have to make sure and the second thing is i don't want the the swift army coming after us for making allegations that are not true because they move swiftly no pun it nice all right yeah no i i mean shout out every every other podcast that us included have an episode coming out tomorrow because god that new heights podcast that comes out tomorrow is going to be the highest rated show of all

time. It's going to blow Bethany's dumbass out of the water. It's going to be 10 times the stupid Bethany Recall bullshit. Oh, yeah. It's going to be the biggest episode probably in the history of podcast. They're already like number two in all podcasts anyway. Add the

Taylor Swift element to it. I bet they're going to get like 10 million plus listens in like two days. It's going to be crazy. Yeah. It's going to be wild. So shout out of us for still putting out an episode on that day. Yeah. Yeah. We're going to get smoked by new heights which we do every week anyway so it's no different

nothing's a different arena nothing's changed but uh let's move on to our power rankings real quick and then we can get into a little southern charm so why don't you go first where where do our shows sit with you this week uh for me salt lake takes the number one spot after last week's performance just a a wonderful wonderful episode really just brings you back to the core of housewives And it was fun. I mean, look, I mean, there's obviously like a lot of drama, a lot of bullshit going on, but it's all real. And you get the mix of, you know, the major players who were still involved and then new people coming in that are trying to leave their mark, whether they're being genuine or not, Angie Kay definitely not, Monica, probably. It's just a really good mix of everything going on there.

That's what we want to see from a housewife show. And the best part about the whole thing is obviously it airs tonight. They still have like at least two or three more episodes on this Palm Springs visit. right like we we only got one day out of it so i would imagine they've got at least two episodes out of this yeah so it can only go up look i mean i think it's going to keep going up i think salt lake i don't want to confirm that it's back but it feels back for me um so salt lake takes the number one spot i'm going to slide southern charm in at number two uh then i guess roney goes to three ronies this week and we'll get into it was just kind of boring for me uh ronnie's going to go three

and then is O.C. still on? I don't care. Yeah, we got season finale this week. Fuck them. Yeah, we got season finale. Just enough. Just enough of them. I'm so tired of talking about them. Yeah.

I think that's a solid ranking. I'm going to go, you're going to be blown away. Your head might explode. Number one, Southern Charm. Number two, Salt Lake. Number three, Roney. number 18.9 O.C. Because I just, I agree with you.

Seeing Roslich return to form is wonderful. That's a perfect word for it. It's wonderful to see those ladies doing what they were doing the first two seasons before whatever the fuck we saw during season three. Southern Charm is just so damn charming. Like watching the boys and Joyce and Bev's on the roof. Like I just, you feel like you're almost there. Oh, yeah, like you can feel the crisp air while they're out there in their vests, you know,

and the big deck energy shirt, which, by the way, J.T. lean into the shirt. It's not making you look like a dork. You are just a dork, period. It's not the shirt, putting a t-shirt on over your Oxford is already like the worst thing that you could do possible. Oh, my God. So what else are you going to do? Yeah. Yeah, like you just lean into it at that point, pal.

But, yeah, I think that's where I stand, which is baffling to me because I was anti-Sutheran charm for the longest time and now i get it it took me a while yeah but i'm there i'm here now i'm here you're here but with that and we're happy to have thank you thank you so much but with that let's go right into it um this episode of southern charm we start out with crag and page are on the phone and they're just going over madison's party and this is why southern charm craig to me is such a different animal than southern or than summer house craig or winter house craig it's just a different guy because the first thing that she asked is how's the party. Greg said it was fun, period. That was it. And he doesn't go into the fact that Taylor was dragging him in front of

everybody at the party. He doesn't go into the fact that Taylor, we get confirmation that she was alluding to Paige potentially cheating on Craig because he just says, look, I know she's going through a lot. I know that this is going to go nowhere. If I tell Paige, all it's going to do is incite an argument that's not worth it. He acknowledges that Taylor... while she was, you know, she was wrong for what she did. He acknowledges what she's going through. And he's like, I'm not going to add fuel to this fire. Party was fun.

Let's just move past it. But it is interesting that we get confirmation later from Taylor. There is a rumor floating around about page. And once again, no way. Like, that's one I can, there's no way she's cheating on Craig. No, I just don't see it. And I don't think we even really have to do with the justice of having like a full deep dive into whether we think it or not. I think it's as simple as just saying, like, no, I just don't see it.

Page is a lot of things, but I just don't see her as a cheater. I don't, new Craig, I don't see Craig cheating on her either. So look, I think that their relationship has faults and I don't think that's one of them. But yeah, I mean, it is really weird to see that. And like, we've been talking about it for a while. And, you know, sometimes you're like, all right, you know, hanging out with Austin and Shep for Craig isn't the best thing all the time. He kind of falls into his old ways sometimes. but it seems like at his core he's grown up a lot and i mean it could also just be like look

like we know page likes gossip so he could honestly in that moment just be saying it was a lot to deal with i really don't feel like rehashing it and reliving it at least right now like maybe let it simmer for a week and then let page know but if i'm going to be sitting on the phone like with a long distance girlfriend trying to fill her in on that and obviously there was a lot aside from the cheating comment there was more shit talked about page he might just not want to get into it at the time and just kind of leave it as it is and eventually talk he's got golf with the boys dude he's got golf with the boys he has no time to talk that's it's a good point i mean who wants to be brought down while you're about to being on the road to go golf with the boys let's

just talk about that feeling such a feeling such a vibe just you know you got some nice coffee in your hand you're getting out on the course get some fresh air now do i want to golf with somebody like j t fucking hell no what a no trick that guy is um but no i mean you know vibes were high and he didn't want to knock him down so i i appreciated it because you know i don't really want to have to relive it rehash it over the phone with page in a car at least as a viewer so i'm fine with it yeah but the next scene we move forward and taylor is going to meet leva i think they're at republic i wasn't 100% which bar they were at but they're going to meet or she's going to meet with leva then we get a tj

sighting from Southern Hospitality, which was nice to see him drop in there. It's nice to see Leva's people working into the mix. As you guys know, we're big Southern Hospitality fans here. So nice to see those guys get a little shout out. But Taylor quit her job, as we know, to follow Shep around the world, which we all said it at the time. This is probably not the best idea. Taylor, you probably shouldn't do this, but lo and behold, she did. Where she lands is not where I expected she's working for it's called day chaser and it's a new beverage company you know everyone's making mixers now and a can but what i was shocked to find out she got this job through shep's buddy like that's still too close to home for me and i i get it like she needed to find something so like

you got to do what you got to do but at the same time it's too close right yeah no i i feel like the overlaying factor for this entire episode between just that little thing that we got in there that's kind of like, oh, that's weird. And then Shep talking to the boys later is, yeah, Shep and Taylor are broken up, but they still have like that whatever, what did Shep call Austin later, like a lifeboat or something?

Yeah, so he still gets to know what's going on there. And obviously Taylor's still like accepting jobs through chef's friends. So she's still around all those people. They're not like actually breaking up. Like, yes, they're broken up, but they're not completely severing ties.

They're keeping themselves involved in each other. lives whether they like it or not whether they mean to or not it's still out there the most uncomfortable scene of the episode though is just watching her try to sell this and look we know we admittedly have pointed out that bravo editing does people dirty sometimes this wasn't i don't think that's what this was taylor was digging herself a grave and i get it look leva is a successful business woman she obviously she has a couple of restaurants so she would be a big client like even if taylor's not involved on this show it doesn't know leva you're going to be a little nervous going into that because leva has like three or four of the most popular bars restaurants

on the strip in charleston this is a big client to land throw in the element of i just fucking cursed out craig in the middle of madison's party in front of leva to which leva then said no you can't say shit like that at the end when you alluded to page cheating on craig it's a weird look And look, I mean, to go from, what was she a orthodontist, I think, orthodontist assistant? She was an orthodontist assistant, yeah. Yeah, so to go from that into, yeah, and she's just going from that into sales. Like, we don't know if she has any sales experience, it doesn't look like it. But it was, I texted you, and I'm like, this just feels like a kind of like a scene from the office, just like uncomfortable.

Part of the reason why I don't really like the office. It's uncomfortable. It can be funny. Whoa. I'm like, no, I'm out on this shit. Whoa. What? You've never heard that? Oh, I knew that. I can't believe. I don't even want to, like, I want to cut that out so that our audience doesn't have to hear you say that.

Like, what a dumb thing to say. It's not a dumb thing to say. I've seen the whole show. The entire show is that awkward, uncomfortable comedy, which is just not comedy. It's just stupid. And it's just out there to make you feel awkward. And that's just not fun for me. And the show for a comedy gets too. real and Jim and Pam kind of ruined the entire show. So what do you want for me? Jesus. You're coming after Jim and Pam. Yeah, Jim, Pam suck, dude. First of, Jim cheated on her in Philadelphia.

And everybody's just like, oh, yeah, sick, dude. Like, they're a great couple. It's like, nah, they're a pretty shitty couple. Whatever. We can do this for hours if you want to. But anyway, watching Taylor try to sell something, which, by the way, something's called Day Chasers. I actually saw this. I think I saw it in Taylor's Instagram, like a week or two ago she was pushing it that is a dumb name for a booze inspired drink when i think chaser was a non-alcoholic i thought it was like a hangover cured drink that's when she started like something like that like a liquid iv yeah exactly like i thought it was either that was

actually my first thought now that i'm thinking about it was it's got to be like a liquid iv like a hydration supplement or some bullshit like that instead it's booze and like that doesn't the name doesn't speak to me as booze it looks stupid so i look It's one of Shep's friends. So, you know, say what you want about that. That's a good point. She's not a good saleswoman. It was the worst interaction I've ever seen in my life.

And I give it up for salespeople because you can walk into a room and just like cold sell something. That's pretty crazy to me. She does not have the skills to tooth that. And I think we learn that very quickly. Yeah, but you know what? Thanks to Leva and her being friends with Taylor. She signs on. She just says, we're going to need you in here to promote this, which, you know,

it could also be Leva saying. you're going to come in to promote this that you get better at this that's what i read it as like i'm going to help you out here you're also going to come in push this drink and and maybe kind of hold her hand through this process which is nice for her to do and it is nice to hear taylor say like you know what yeah i was out of line at that party i went kind of cuckoo and i was projecting on craig so the acknowledgement is at least nice i don't think it takes away from the disaster that party was but at least she knows that she was out of line but moving on we get to the golf day with the boys which i'm stoked i'm always happy for a golf scene um we get introduced to j t and jt pulls up

and he's got two bottles in his cart of rosay maybe i don't know what it was no idea but he was walking around the green at one point with like an entire bottle if it was whiskey that's fucking wild that's what it looked like to me but j t doesn't look like the kind of guy that's going I'm going to drink whiskey. Maybe Jack and Coke at the bar. Jack and Diet. Jack and diet. Yeah, I was uncomfortable looking at that because I, you know, you could have a couple of beers

out there. But once he started breaking out of the hard liquor and shit like that, yeah, get out of it. Plus, we get the athleticism on display and not a lot going on there. No, look, I've reached out to pillows and beer a couple times. They haven't even read them. But I would love to get on the course and fill. film the whole thing. I think that would be hysterical. Do like a little two-man scramble versus those

guys would be, I like our chances. I think we can do it. After watching that, I think we win easily. We're both on. But we get to learn a little bit about J.T. He moved to Charleston during the pandemic. He made Charleston

his home. And then we get this story about how he went to England for the World Cup. He invited Taylor over there with her friends. And this is the first mention we get of Taylor from him right and I thought it was weird I didn't read too much into it because we don't get into all the Taylor stuff until later but then he starts asking Austin about his relationship with Taylor and I'm like why do you keep digging on this stuff why are you so invested on how

Shep feels about Austin hanging out with Taylor's like I just think it's weird dude like bro code man bro code like why are you hanging out why are you guys so close it doesn't make sense to me and I guess Taylor hooked up with one of TJ's friends and we find that out and I'm sure that that rubbed him the wrong way but all I'm getting from this conversation even before we get to like the confirming part like clearly JT's got a thing for Taylor

like that's written all over space. Yeah I mean I did not like any part of that conversation the way that he was talking about it like I sold my house to Charleston and you know I had I had another house out in London so I sold my house to Charleston just told everybody like hey you want to come on a all expenses paid trip like anytime the people start talking about shit like that i'm like nah fuck off but he he just instantly rubs me the wrong way the way that he

talks the way that he's bouncing back and forth and like talking to austin and craig and yeah i mean i didn't think a lot of it now obviously we do know i i just from like the season trailer we know that there's like something going on with j t and uh and taylor but overall from that first conversation. I'm like this it's just really weird to walk in with that kind of high energy talking about how Austin is best friends with Taylor. I couldn't tell if it was one, him just trying to like play it up for the cameras and get a storyline going or two, he's in love with Taylor and he's super jealous that Austin's close to her. Both. I think it's probably is both. Do you think they brought JT in to like kind of spin this whole narrative? Like why the fuck else is this loser coming on to

the screen if like maybe bravo producing like hey we need to bring in a third party here that's also kind of friends of taylor hey we've got this guy who's also rich who just sold his house and brought taylor on a trip he might be able to share a little bit of information about taylor and then kind of bring it in there and they just i didn't really just care the tact of it all was probably my biggest issue where he just goes so hard against austin being friends with taylor and starts talking about brocode like 50 times i don't know i just didn't like it no i agree with you But I think that it's both, honestly. I think that they brought him in.

And as a newbie, he's been watching the show. He's been friends with these guys. So he knows the gig. He knows what you're supposed to do. So he's trying to drum up drama. But at the same time, he has feelings for Taylor. So now he's trying to drag Austin on screen to make him look to be the bad guy. Yeah.

But he comes out looking better. That's what I think. But the next scene, we get to meet Rod. And Olivia has been going on dates. I think this is date number two. I'm not positive, but I think it's date number two. And it's like a little lunch date in the park. And we find out that Taylor's roommates finally moved out,

aka her parents, or she has full reign of the house. And I will say, Bravo has made me jaded towards new boyfriends or new dates because I'm always assuming this dude's a fuck boy. I'm like, oh, boy, here we go. Like, what's this guy about? I like Rod. I like Rod. He goes to two different delis to find her.

her gluten-free bread, because she can't eat gluten, which is a really nice move. Could it be him trying to, like, play his cards the right way? Sure. But he seemed genuinely interested. He's making some lighthearted jokes, but not like actually making funer, which is a good move. And when he made the joke of like the tour bus going by and he's like, and if you look to your left, there's 300 white people and one brown guy. I was like, wow, that was fucking funny.

Yeah, it was, it was very funny. I liked him the whole time. he was a pleasant experience it's got to be awkward i mean he's i don't know i thought it was their first date i couldn't tell if olivia said she's been on two dates and this is the second of the two and now it's our first with rod and the whole thing was a little big but yeah i mean look i think he went in with some uh with some style with some swag i enjoyed it i think he rizzed her up you know what riz is deal just enough just a little bit yeah okay yeah you know riz um yeah i think he uh I think he had a really good showing on that date.

He earned that kiss at the end. I'm cheering for him. I like that he made the move as well. It wasn't overaggressive. I, you know, the fact that he just crushed Sandoes and then they make out is a little gross to me. But, you know, I think there was some time in there. You know, I think there's time to pick your teeth a little bit in there. I hope so.

But no, Rod, great first impression, pal. I like how you're coming into the show. They seem to have a lot of chemistry. So good for you, bud. Then we get a quick check in with Patricia and Whitney. and Patricia looks great. She looks great. And my sentiment about these two has changed so far to the other end of the

spectrum. I couldn't stand these two when I started watching the show. And again, I'm watching Southern Charm correctly now. So now I get it. I'm like, oh, here we go. I need a little chicken with the aristocrats. What's going on, guys? I almost said Aristocrats.

Same thing. They're just, yeah, we get to meet Randy, the new Butler, because the other Butler had a stroke last year, right? And they didn't seem that concerned about it. I remember that being a problem for me. No, they moved on pretty quick. They had the butler two years ago. And then last year was sort of like an interim butler.

And I think Randy popped in towards the end too, right around that dog wedding. I think Randy was involved. Remember the dog wedding? Oh, I do remember the dog wedding. Yeah, because Whitney played like his rendition on the electric guitar. Yeah. No, it's just really funny to see like, and this is kind of like par for the course for Whitney and Patricia. They have not interacted with another member of the cast the entire season yet.

No, not yet. They're just popping in like, hey, let's go check out what they're up to. And you just see the banter between the two of them and you move on. That's all I need from them, though. I don't need much more. I just want to check in with them and then move on. I got to learn that in England, you don't touch glasses because when you cheers, because it's considered gauche, didn't know that.

Did you know, do you know why people cheers, like where that came from? now a war i imagine so you people started to cheers because back in the day people would poison each other's drinks and by cheersing it would spill a little bit of your drink into the other person's drink so that if you poison their drink there was like a trust thing it's like all right let's cheers because if you fuck with my drink you're going to die too that's where our cheers came from there's your history lesson well but moving on from that um Madison's facetiming with her mom and just going over the her new role as a wife and you know she says she's killing it she's cooking him dinner and he's on the front lines of the wildfires out in california right now and look brett's a man

we got to say it like he's just a man like he's a he's a beautiful guy and at the same time he's out there on the front lines fighting wildfires he's playing with the kid i love the story about the roast and he's allergic to carrots he didn't say a goddamn word he ate around the carrots Good for you, pal. Anybody else in the show would have thrown the roast on the floor and be like, I told you, I don't like carrots. So I'm a big Brett fan. But we get back with the boys pretty quickly after that,

and they are doing a bar crawl and a golf cart, I guess. Those things always kind of rub me the wrong way with people. You see them down the shore now. Everybody's got a fucking golf cart. It's going to take, like, one drunk driving accident for every county in the world. to just be like, all right, golf carts are out. I don't think you're allowed to drive drunk in a golf cart. You're not allowed to drive drunk in anything.

But you can't maybe a forklift. Are you forklift certified? I am not forklift certified. I don't think you can do that either. I think any heavy machinery, yeah, I do have weird certifications, but not that one. But, yeah, I don't think you can get arrested for riding a horse drunk. That's a D.A. Yeah, but, and they're drinking and riding around Charleston in like main streets.

I don't know. It just, it seemed like a weird thing to do. Now, obviously we got to see a little bit of that and Roney too, but Uber wasn't drinking. So yeah,

whatever. Let's not get into the legalities of it. We don't know. I know, but it's still just like, and it's not the safe choice. I mean, I guess like parking wise,

there's parking four golf carts in front of places. It's almost like handicapped parking, essentially, which is another problem in itself. Yeah. So they, I mean specifically that golf carts are taking spots

away from the handicapped people that need those spots that's what a platform what a platform yeah that's my new platform actually I'm running for office um so yeah I mean in theory it sounds pretty cool though little golf cart bar crawl sounds great but anyway back to pass here Jesus we get to check back in with Shep Shep shows up a little bit later he's talking about his trip to Australia and he seems really torn up about Taylor as he's talking about all of the other women that he met and hooked up with while he was overseas. So that's where I get really frustrated.

And you know I don't like ship, but when you're highlighting, he asks, how was Australia? And all you talk about, you go from golfing at the Royal Melbourne because you accompanied identical twins to a wedding or something,

or he met identical twins, then you accompanied another woman to a wedding. That's not what he asked. He said, how is Australia? And you immediately talking about, like, the list of chicks that you hooked up with, which is so par for the course. That's not what happened.

That's what I got out of it. No, they started talking about golfing because he had a vest on from winged foot, which is up in New York. I know that. And then he said, yeah, he never asked about Australia. He just said, I got to play at Royal Melbourne. And JT asked, how did you get on there? And he said, it's actually a very funny story. And then he went into it.

But like, maybe I'm jaded. You are jaded. And it's okay. You're still, you're like a ship hater coming out of. I will forever always be a ship hater. Yeah, no, you'll turn the corner eventually. But no, look, we know what Shep is. So, like, am I surprised by any of this talk?

No. I think that two things can be true. I feel like he is still torn up about Taylor. And he's been, obviously, on the road and going to Australia and South Africa and whatever. Of course, he's hooking up with chicks. He's trying to fill a hole in his heart. What do you want from him? He's definitely trying to fill a hole, but that's what you get talking.

It's not get political on here. I can't wait to talk about that, Rose on Friday. What a joke. But that's when we start talking, or sorry, J.T. forces the conversation. It was so uncomfortable and so awkward and so unnecessary. And he's just like, dude, why did you let Taylor go, man? She was the perfect girl. Like, she was literally perfect.

Like, she's perfect, man. How could you let her go? And Craig points out, like, yeah, you're clearly in love with her. Like, he lights up when she walks in the room. and then J.T. quickly points the fingers like, well, Austin lights up when he walks in the room, like, is he in love with her? And the whole table kind of goes, like, silent.

And I love when Austin gets backed into a corner because he always does the same face. He, like, looks up to the ceiling and goes like, oh, um, he does that face right there, which if you're not on YouTube, you can't see the face. But this is when, or no, I take that back. That's my bad. J.T. didn't put that on him. Austin offered that information. Austin offered the information himself.

Yeah. That's my bad. Austin's the one that says I light up when she walks in the room. Does that mean I'm in love? It's like, probably. Yeah, that's a weird thing to put out there on the table when you're sitting across the table from Shep. And this is when JT goes on his rampage trying to throw Austin under the bus where he's like, Sheep, don't you think it's weird that their relationship?

Like, she's sleeping over at his house. It's like, dude, what are you doing? You're the one that was on the golf course talking about Brocode. And that has nothing to do with giving Austin. and support. That's about Shep. If you're trying to not be a dick, don't tell him that. There's a time and a place at a table with four dudes throwing that out there for him to find out for the first time if you are really concerned about quote unquote pro code.

That is terrible form, pal, but clearly, and this is when it becomes, sorry, this is when it becomes blaringly obvious, oh, you want to date or have sex with Taylor. Like, that's what this is about. you are trying to get Austin out of the picture because I guess since you're not that close with Shepp like you would be I guess an asterisk like it would be kind of okay if you hooked up with her not super okay but he can get past it at least you're not Austin but it's it's weird because Shep at least says like yeah and Austin had mentioned this earlier I think that Shep looks at me as kind of the middleman between him and and Taylor and I thought that was

kind of a stretch until Shep confirms it. He's like, yeah, it's like my life raft. I have communication via Austin, so I know how she's doing. I can check in, like, see how things are going, which is also weird. But, and I've said this before and I've given him credit for it in the past of all of his shortcomings, like Shep is a good friend for the most part when it comes to his boys. He trusts Austin on his word because he's like, he's my friend. He goes, he's one of my best friends. I have to take him on his word because that's what friendship is. So, like, I appreciated that, but I hated. I absolutely hated this shit out of J.T.

Like, what are you trying to do, pal? Yeah, no, I didn't like it either. And J.T. needs to figure his shit out. Like, it doesn't seem like he's the brightest bulb. And he didn't really expect, I don't know. Craig is smart. And Craig knows what's going on and is able to kind of point this out and make sure that J.T. understands and everybody else around it understands.

Like, he just went on, like, a love poem about everything that was good about Taylor. Taylor. J.T. was able to do that to Taylor's ex-boyfriend right in front of him and say, why did you let that girl go? She's a great girl. She's beautiful. She does this and that and whatever. And then as soon as somebody tries to bring it back and ask him why he's doing that, and obviously he's pointing it at Austin, he gets all but heard about it. He's like, can we stop talking about this? Why does this keep getting brought up? You brought it up. Nobody would have mentioned the whole fucking like ex-girlfriend's breakdown between all of them involved would not have happened if J.T. didn't go so hard in the beginning. And you called it out

perfectly. It's exactly what he's trying to do. He's trying to get Shep to be jaded towards Austin because then it kind of puts a spotlight on what Austin's doing with Taylor. Maybe Austin will back off of Taylor and then JT can swoop in and be the friend. Here's a news flash for you, buddy. She hooked up with one of your friends. You took her on this fucking full expense paid trip to Paris and London. And yes, still didn't hook up with her. her she hooked up with one of your boys and now you're home and you're going to try to get two other friends in trouble and try to run somebody else off her path so that you can sweep in you know what's going to happen you're going to run them off the path and then somebody else is

going to sweep in because guess what you're five foot two nobody likes you you're a fucking stick in the mud you're a shit golfer and you look like a doofus putting a t-shirt on if i had to listen to him complain about the goddamn t-shirt everybody's got a hat or a t-shirt or something going on there if it's just like micro penis on here like you probably do with a micro penis like that's the whole thing as soon as you get that up in arms yeah

like seriously as soon as you nobody even offered it up he said it right away said as long as it doesn't say tiny dick over here it's like okay but now I want to find a t-shirt that says that between him flashing the London house and selling the Charleston house and money money

and then referencing if it doesn't say little dick look if that doesn't say little dick energy i'm not really sure what does like you're doing yourself no favors j t just like take a couple plays off dude like take a seat sit on the bench

take an inning or two off come back regroup come in with a better tactic because this shit's not working for me it's not working for me it's not working no i'm upset that we didn't get to see his car when he pulled into the golf club too because i'm sure it's like a uh like an f350 that's like raised up

it's either a listed f3 50 or a Maserati that remarkably resembles a penis. It's got the bulging cab and then a really long front end. That's what I imagine he's driving. I did like Craig in this instance because Craig's

in a weird spot because both Shep and Austin are his boys but he stands by his own code and he mentioned that in the golf course. He's like I've kind of thrown bro code out the window like for me it's not so much bro code anymore. It's my code and he stands true to that because

while this is going on, instead of just letting it kind of happen, he supports Shep and being like, he picks and chooses the right time to kind of jump. And he's like, well, have you guys kissed? Like,

just flat out. He puts Austin on the spot, like, have you kissed? And Austin does the quick look down and goes, no, no. And looks a little sketchy.

And Craig's like, as he's getting up, he's going to grab another beer. By the way, Shepp, he looked down to the right, Big Tell. Down to the left.

Down to the left. He's like, yeah, if you look on any spy, movie they look down that way they're usually lying so i like the way that again southern charm craig is is a different guy to me and i like that he's supporting both of his friends in a way he's not throwing austin under the bus but at the same time he's pushing this narrative forward because he's like look this is fucked up what you're doing it's not cool i'm your friend but you're

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We know that they get into a big issue and that Taylor and Austin definitely did hook up. when you're watching back last week yeah you can take out the the fact that taylor accused page of cheating on craig yeah you can take out that they were complaining the page wasn't coming around and does she like us yeah you can kind of take out even just her kind of going really hard at craig saying that he wasn't there for her and wasn't supportive she was such like a she had like a bell cow for austin like just going back and forth and back and forth like austin's the only one who's ever been there so if i'm craig and he's able to pull that out of that whole conversation like that's really weird that she is obsessed with austin and obviously we

saw last year the whole brother sister bullshit which we always call out it's it's always bullshit they're always hooking up you get to kind of see the inner workings of this of this going and i'm happy that craig picked up on it he does it in a subtle enough way but again like their boys they've been friends for 20 years they know how each other tick he knows that austin hooked up with taylor but he's not just going to yell it out in the like maybe five years ago Craig would just get hammered at the bar and scream that out in front of 25 people instead he's a little he's a little more careful not necessarily careful i don't even think careful is the word he's more pointed when it comes to all right chef like you're right here you just saw what he just did when i asked him point

blank like i think he's fucking lying move on i'm gonna go grab a drink and come back ship i think deep down knows too and we kind of see a little bit of that later like he he said 50 50 i think that they both kind of know where it is shep's a little heartbroken about it doesn't really know where to be and Craig's just doing his best to kind of navigate it a little bit now you throw in fucking JT over there just kind of shouting things out that's going to make things murky bro that's going to make things murky bro I will say I like JT for the show honestly I think he's a dork but I think that he's good for this show I don't the last thing I'll say on this scene is just when the the sleepover comes up and Austin's like I had no idea she was in the guest

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I just think that she got the short end of the stick. We didn't get enough time to like let her grow into whatever character she's going to be on this show. Then I think she deserved more of a shot. So I'm glad that they're cool so we can get more out of her. But in this scene, we get a quick little blur. from Madison where she's like, I think Austin's in love with Taylor. And I think

that's important that the other people in the group, especially the women in the group, are taking notice. Yeah, no, I think you're right. And when it comes to Vinita, we do need to see more as it stands right now. I just don't think the show needs her. I don't know what she's going to bring to the table. I think producing wise, maybe

you get a little bit more out of Madison. If Madison's going to go that, like, housewife route where she's a little more tame. She's not getting herself involved in a lot because she's happy with her life and she's kind of enjoying it and staying home while Brett's out in California. And we do, obviously, we get the scene.

So it's important to see that Madison said that. But it could have been with anybody. Like until Vanita shows up in like a group setting, I just don't need her. You know what I mean? Like I don't need the little, the scenes with just her playing with her dog and her dog's running out and like doing things

and like calling it like her boyfriend seems nice. But like for the show, she is not doing anything for me. She doesn't have that chemistry. She doesn't have that relationship with anybody outside of Madison. I need to see more from her. So we'll see. I'm not ready to write her off yet, but I'm just saying, like, if we're, you know, week

10, 12 of this and we're still just getting these little clips of Anita with one other person and she's not in a group setting, I'm going to be a little annoyed and I don't need her for the next season. But I want to echo what you said. I think it's important because this group, I don't even want to call them friends because a lot of them are already friends with each other at this point. this group is so split down the middle with the guys and girls like more than any other show they all the guys will go out and do their thing and it's a completely different dynamic and then the girls will get together it's a completely different dynamic it's important to see that the girls are understanding what's going on and obviously Madison's going to be a little jaded towards Austin but she does know Austin and she understands how he ticks and she knows it better than anybody yeah yeah and anybody in that fucking room last week when Taylor starts spouting off to Craig about how supportive Austin is, is going to start looking at it like, whoa, that's fucking weird.

If you have a squeaky clean record and you've never cheated on somebody or done anything shady in your life and somebody does that, people are still going to think it's a little weird. It was bizarre. And Austin does not have a squeaky clean record. So it's just very easy to be like, oh, there's definitely something going on there. So I think the scene's important, kind of pretty much what you said about,

just understanding that everybody has. their eye on it now and it's it's going to blow up at some point yeah and the the last scene is just back at like round two of the bar crawl and they're finishing the night out and um we get to meet rod rogerigo not rod rod rod who has been friends with these guys for like eight years austin specifically they've been friends for like i think since they say school they went to school yeah charlotte um and one thing i want to point out if this dude's on the show he's been with his boyfriend for eight years, he should be the voice of reason. When anyone has relationship questions from now on, go to Rodrigo because none of you can maintain a relationship. And this man

can. I felt so bad for Rodrigo. Like, Rodrigo is, he just seems like the only normal guy in that whole scene with both of them. Like, he's so fed up with them. He had to sit at a table with just J.T. JT's annoying his shit. And he's just sitting there like one word answers to him the entire time. He chugs his beer. He sits down. He just looks so dispense. pleased with way that he's sitting and who he's with and then later obviously they go down they go downstairs and get shots and he just looks like he wants to be somewhere else like he does not want to be with these guys at all and austin's like trying to chime in and like slap him on the back and you get that scene earlier where uh rodrigo says yeah i was friends with austin before

he became a douche and he doubled down he's like well yeah now he is he's just a full on douche and like he didn't smile he didn't even laugh after it he's like yeah he's just a douche yeah it seemed genuine I'm like, oh, that's kind of a tough look for somebody that you've been friends with for, you know, 20 years. But, yeah, I just, I just felt so bad for Rodrigo that entire time. Every time he's on the screen, he just looked like he wanted to be somewhere else. The whole scene is just kind of tying up everything that's been happening during the episode. Like, Craig finally calls out when he's standing next to JT. He's like, you're holding, I think, because, oh, that's what it was.

They asked JT, like, when's the last time you had sex? And he gets so weird about it. I'm not talking about my sex life. It's like, that's not rocket science, dude. He's not asking you to name names. When's the last time you hooked up? That's all. And he's like, oh, I don't know.

When's the last time you hooked up to Austin, which it's going to be within the week. Let's be real here. Like the dude hasn't gone more than a week without hooking up. Yeah. Probably in the past 10 years. It's a weird question to like throw it back at him. And Craig makes a joke like, oh, what are you holding out for Taylor? And his response is, shut up, Craig.

I'm like, oh my God, you pussy, you really are. it absolutely is and that's what i was referencing earlier when it's just like you brought this up you could have left it alone you could have just like answered it simply on the golf course you did not need to go into anything it was fucking painfully weird when you described all of taylor's good qualities to her ex-boyfriend who is clearly still like heartbroken over there trying to get over the whole thing you did all this weird activity you opened yourself up to this pal so the fact that you're going to lash out immediately after that like you you just dug your own grave and now you're mad about it it's just such a weird move it's such a weird like cuck beta move do you know who

j t is j t's the kind of guy that would get used for a green card and then his wife would leave him for a ski instructor in the alps yeah which i actually when he said that i was like that that that kind of sucks i felt for him there it definitely sucks but it does track a little bit but i did a J.T. I'm sorry that she left you for a ski instructor. And he's like, yeah, her life's awesome. And like turns around. I was like, that was funny. That was one funny out of you, J.T. You get one point. So you're one for 20. Nice job. But the most important thing here is we get a check in with Shep and he's talking to Craig. And we finally get his true thoughts and feelings. Because once again, do Shep's credit in front of Austin. If he's not

riled up, like actively upset, he's not going to cause a ton of shit. At least in my experience like he's going to kind of just be like yeah you know whatever when it comes to austin face to face because he doesn't want to open that door yet but when you get him one-on-one with craig he's like yeah it's it's fucked up i don't like it and i'm about 50-50 that's something happened and if you're austin like i and i know he's got a track record here but even so he introses the season and i guess that was a confessional so that's actually interesting now that i think about the timing of it where he's like you know i'm the problem and most of my relationships. So I wonder if that confessional is almost postseason where he's looking back

like, fuck, yeah, I have a problem now that he's at the end of it, whatever happens this season. Because for him to do that to like, that's your boy. You know, I don't like Shep, but that is your boy, dude. And you add Olivia into this picture. That's messy as shit. That's really fucking messy. The Olivia thing bothers me. I need to see how long they actually date it because they act like they were in like a fucking five-year relationship and everything's like so crazy and so weird and I'm going to be so upset when she's dating somebody else like I'm pretty sure they dated for like four months maybe Matt I agree like I hear what you're saying but at the same time I think that because of one obviously it's a TV show and two you get like the cast dynamic of it and

the friend group dynamic I think it's deeper than just that I don't think it's so much like oh They were only a thing for four months. I think that you add to the fact that she's best friends with Taylor now. So that's another thing. I also think that it just goes along with the guy girl code, the friend code, if you will. Like regardless of the duration of time, it is a friend's X and you just don't cross that street. No, no, for sure. I'm not even like referencing anything like that.

It's just, I think it's kind of like JT talking about how Charleston's just a bubble. And we hear how small the talent is all the time. Yeah, that too. They made friends because they were just, like, going out together all the time or whatever. But look, I mean, as long as Austin's taking responsibility for everything and he notices, like, we know how him and Olivia ended. He said that he had feelings with her and then a week later said he had no feelings anymore. He changed his mind. So, like, it does come back to him.

Like, the reason that you're not dating Olivia, the reason that you're not on good terms of her is because of the way that you handled it. So if he comes back and he says, yeah, you know, like I handled that really shittily and now I'm kind of. I'm dealing with it, and it comes right back on me, then I'm okay with that. But if he gets really upset and like obviously we see next week that he meets with Rod for some fucking reason, I hope they know each other because otherwise that's just the weirdest interaction I've ever seen. That would be bizarre. That would be unbelievably bizarre. But he gets really upset when he's talking to Rod about like her going on dates and stuff. It's like, dude.

Does he or is that production? See, I think that he's going to be. No, I think it is. I think they are like, like if Shep found out that Taylor was going on a date with J.T. Shep would have a similar reaction like it's just I think that's who they are I think they're all kind of similar in that way I think that Austin to see it

yeah I think Austin just kind of has like a split on the whole thing where it's like yes he can text her a week later and say he changed his mind he doesn't have feelings on it with her because he hooked up with somebody else presumably or going back and being upset that she's now dating somebody months and months later when you only had a four year relationship or a four month

relationship whether it's just it's really weird I think he just needs to get his shit together and figure it out and hopefully he does because it's better for the show but we'll see it's murky bro it's it's always murky bro it's super murky bro but let's get on to roney and i think we can get through this one a little bit faster because it centers around one thing pretty much but we start out uba and aaron are this is immediately following the glasses snatched and we called this whole thing dumb last week and when we start

this episode, it's way less intense than it appeared to be last week. Like, they have separation. Like, they're kind of just jawing back and forth at one another. But Aaron says that this is the worst conflict of her life. What a fucking sheltered life

she's had. Settled down, bro. Like, it's not that big a deal. Like, also, not to forget, you said to her, like, pretty much keep my name out of your mouth, which is inviting some shit. Like if you start with that,

you're introing with like, what's up? Like you want to go? Like, I know it's not going to turn physical, but when you intro with, keep my name out of your mouth, like don't say my name,

you're going to get met with a response. And then she snags your glasses. You act like a scared little puppy dog. You back up. Like, don't start shit. Like, don't start.

And I won't be none. But the whole episode is centered around this. And we're going to get into it a little bit more. But for me, like this is not that big of a deal like i think for everybody involved it's not that big i mean like sye wants to get involved because she wants to defend erin or maybe she wants to show face i'm still trying to figure out what she also wants to squash it she the yeah everybody's kind of move the fuck on yeah like jena same thing jennas really questioning the whole thing look i think we were bound

to have a clunker this was a clunker yeah we were i just didn't this is everything that we talked about what was right with the Roney reboot all kind of came together with what's wrong about housewives in general. They got stuck on one stupid fucking thing that nobody cares about and were able to

not only focus that on the entire fucking episode, which just sucked. But they started bringing in other things because Uva starts riling up Bryn and Bryn you know, Bryn talks about how she lets things go all the time and she's rather just, she'd rather just smile and kind of like

bring her way through things, but yeah, eventually somebody's going to keep saying it and saying it and saying it, and you're going to start looking at Aaron like, Aaron, you're starting all these problems. That's really the only takeaway from the episode is, yeah, I guess she is kind of starting all these fucking problems. Like, I do agree with that. It's just, you know, did we need 45 minutes to get there?

No, probably not. There was nothing else that was fun there, like, exciting this entire episode, except for now we know that Jessel keeps a fucking list of all the things that Aaron's done wrong which you know I don't condone and I think that's really stupid too but then they get in the cars or whatever I will say I it's such a weird back and forth the whole time for everybody because when they get in the cars Britain's talking to Uber like you know I don't think you I understand you are upset but I think that your reaction was a little bit over the top like you always go so low when you get heated and she's trying actively in that car ride to the bar to like settle

things down a little bit. But when they get to Bar Elvis, or Elvis Bar, whatever, we get to meet Elvis. It looks like a lovely little beach bar. He says, it's the best beach bar in the Caribbean. Who am I to refute that? It looks like it, but they got to drink. Every beach bar in the Caribbean is the best beach bar. Yeah, but that probably is.

But they drink. It is. Mamawana, which you didn't come with us to the Dominican. So when we graduated high school, seven of our friends in high school, we all went to the DR for like a week. unsupervised at 18 years old, which was a terrible idea, but a really great time. And we drank

Mama Wana the entire time. They call it the, what is it? Liquid Viagra, is what they would call it. Oh, my. But it's it tastes delicious, but it's supposed it's like an aphrodisiac, I guess. I'll ask dev about it. Because we were together at the time. Maybe Jessel and Pavit needed to get down there. Hey, I did love

that Jessel tries to explain what moonshine is and could not be further from what moonshine is. She's like, it's natural, it's alcohol made naturally. Technically, no. Technically, I guess, but it's more so like, what can we scrounge up and ferment into the most potent alcohol on the planet? And guess who was the biggest supporter of moonshine in their heyday? This guy, I fucking loved white lightning.

That shit was my favorite. yeah i mean there was some commercialized moonshine out there that shit's garbage yeah and it was just like milk liquor mixed with ever clear whatever yeah there's this dude on my team who was from virginia like the sticks or the west virginia like middle of nowhere and his uncle was a moonshiner and he brewed it out in his shed and in the hillsides behind their house and he would bring crates like old school like back when they used to smuggle alcohol he would bring a crate of this shit and he would hand us each a mason jar of white lightning and if you drink too much too fast you can go blind yeah no that sounds about right that's what moonshine is jessel but anyway i thought it

was funny yet slightly mean that brin is highlighting how forgettable jessel is the entire episode i know like we get multiple times and each time i giggled and then i'm like oh that's that's sneaky one of the meaner things you can say about a person it's like oh they're extremely forgettable. But I don't think Brim was doing it and maybe you can just chalk this up for Brim being Brin. I don't think that Brim was doing it in a mean way. I think that it was apparent that Jessel is forgettable. Even Elvis was going by and like pouring out shots and forgot about Jessel.

She laughed about it. She's like I feel bad for Jessel that this happens. But yeah, I mean, she took it well, but maybe that means she's just used to it. But I mean, it's just, it was really funny to see that because she was forgotten like four or five times. I actually expected them to leave without her. And that would have been like the cherry on top of everything. That would have been really funny.

Everybody piles into the car and they just drive off and Jessel still sitting there waiting for the bill. But while they're sitting at the bar, things get heated again. Like Aaron at this point I think is ready to just like chalk it up. Like she's waiting for her to return the sunglasses or whatever. She doesn't want to get into this anymore. Every time Uva starts talking, she seems to get riled up again. And she starts trying to explain like why she's so pissed about it. And it's like at this point, we get it.

We understand why you're mad. don't need to keep hearing the same thing. And now you get a separation in the group entirely where Jenna is playing almost like mom to Aaron to try to keep her from having a total meltdown while the other girls are playing limbo across the bar, which at first I thought Jeff was solo with his way. I saw his wedding ring and I thought he was at that beach bar by himself. And he's like, ladies, we got we got limbo. My wife is not here and we got limbo.

And then when he's at the actual limbo stick, I think that was his wife across from them they were both policing the limbo sticks and that made me feel a little bit better but i i initially was like jeff what are you doing jeff like jeff you dog jeff you dog all we needed was that uh that older guy at the bar watching brin go down on that straw to just pop up oh god that was so funny what a week this is for me i get to run into these girls again and now i got to watch them play limba like we just get him like sitting in the back oh man that would have been like the bar top like just his eyes like ultimate callback And then you see his wife come out of nowhere and just smack him upside the head.

God damn it, Ronald, get in the hotel room. But after that, they head to lunch. And this is when Sai is starting to, she's tired of it. She's like, we just need to resolve this. Like, can we move on from this? And I, Uber keeps using the word abuse. She keeps saying that Aaron's abusive and a liar. And I'm like, all right, dude.

I'm starting to think like, and we talked about this with Jenna because Jenna offered it up I'm wondering like has Uber ever been on a girl's trip like I'm starting to wonder if any of them have been on girls trips like this just seems like something that happens and you get Aaron saying something like

you said earlier this is the worst thing that's ever happened to me I wonder if maybe people just don't fuck with Uber ever and like they've never done anything like that to Uber and she just lost her shit and has no idea how to handle it and she's trying to deal with all these emotions but not once

at least until she got back and obviously World War II happened or World War III happened but the entire time she doesn't even once consider like this is stupid but like she there's a couple of things here like one she leaves her fucking phone everywhere

yeah she loses every time every time she leaves the car she leaves her fucking phone behind she didn't have missed calls she didn't have missed text messages just fucking leave it alone like there's no reason to get this worked up about all of this bullshit and keep going after Aaron like one

Aaron gets it. Everybody fucking gets it. Do I think that Aaron fully understands and can like get the gravity of the situation? Like it doesn't really matter how dumb the prank is. If somebody gets that upset about something, at some point you got to be like, all right, look, you're really upset. It was a dumb prank. I'm really sorry. I didn't mean to get you that worked up.

We get nothing from Aaron. Aaron just gets really upset about Uber being upset and then Uber just keeps working yourself up. And it's just like a fucking endless cycle that no one can slow down. And again, 45 minutes of this. Like, well, it just never fucking stopped. And because it never slowed down, what ends up happening is the rest of the group starts getting a little tipsy. And when you hear the same person talking shit on somebody else long enough and you also have some ammo against that person, now they start jumping in. And now they're all sitting at the table together.

Aaron's not present. And they're all bringing up shit that Aaron's done in the past. Right. Which does highlight, you know what? Aaron starts shit. She's a shit talker. And that's a bad look for Aaron because initially you can almost garner some sympathy. You're like, damn, they're really ganging up on her.

But then they start going through things. You're like, is the reaction a little over the top? Sure. But yeah, you really haven't gotten checked the whole season. And you've started a ton of shit. You've kind of like take it upon yourself when the one person that's not present in the group, you will talk about that one person that's not there. So, well, I do think that it was over.

the top when they start pointing things out i'm like oh okay like they're starting to have a point here yeah and i i will say the one thing that i do i did actually like that i can take away from all of this i love the move where you're leaving and then you decide to go back and just sit somewhere else at the bar it's so funny it's it's just funny like one yes you're in you're in the caribbean you can go anywhere that you want there's probably 15 bars you know Elvis has the best one but there's probably a ton more bars you decide no we're not going to walk up the coast and go to a different bar. Let's just go back to this bar. We'll just go sit on the other side of the bar.

And then they immediately call back to it. But they're still like, like, look, if I'm Aaron and I walk away, I'm expecting them to finally stop at the very least, she walks back in with Jenna. They're still going. I know. Like even further, even deeper, just like fully pushing forward on this whole fucking agenda. Aaron walks back in and you look across the bar and they're still arguing about Aaron. They're still talking shit about Aaron.

fuck like at least i remove all right so if i remove myself in the situation nothing gets better it clearly gets worse apparently yeah because then they just maybe that was the wrong call yeah it's just uh man but we did get to find out what brin does we found out that she went to school to be a doctor she was pre-med she failed one class like organic chemistry or something and then pivoted to PR she explains that she got into a niche market or something along those lines where she got really good at job and is now able to work 10 hours a week and pull in some good money as a consultant, but at least we get some answers there because we've been wondering what exactly it is that she does.

But my favorite little quip from this scene, only because we got to watch Jessel talk to Pavit about spending 100 grand to send their two kids to private preschool was Jenna Lyons of all people who has all the money, be like, yeah, I didn't want to send them to this pretentious private school. I wanted to send them to public school because everyone's all of the reasons that Jessel wants her kids in private school were all of the reasons that Jenna

did not want her kids in private school. And she lists them off in front of Jocelyn. I was like, oh, this is great. This is so great because Jessel's not going to say shit to Jenna. She's going to sit there and listen and be like, uh, that's, I want all those things though, Jenna.

I want those things. Um, but moving on from that, we're riding back to, the house and this is when we get what you alluded to earlier this stupid list that jessel keeps in her phone and when she says i've got a bulleted list and everyone starts calling her al capone for some weird reason i don't that he keep lists i don't know list guy i don't think he was a list guy i think it was like a hit list maybe they were trying to loosely reference i don't see al capone having a hit list people al capone definitely had a hit list i think that he just called people and

put out hits i don't think he wrote them down i think he's like hey See, I need this guy taking out, see? So even in our wildest imagination, and we're trying our hardest to figure out what the fuck they mean, we can't figure it out. That just means that they're wrong, whatever they were trying to do. He calls him Al Pacino. Yeah, well. The hooah, but. So two nights in a row, you did a hoo-a last night, too.

I did a hoo-a at the bar last night at the birds game. But we find out about this list. So I'm going into this thinking, like, okay, she's going to list exact most. that Aaron was talking shit about everybody in the group that nobody else heard. No, she's talking about things that everybody heard and just her reaction to those things. Like, oh, my parents are rich, fuck you. Oh, you think that I have a trust fund? Well, I don't.

Fuck you. I was like, is this? I mean, look, if this is therapeutic for you and this is how you work through things without exploding at situations, that, okay, I can get on board for that. but this is a weird thing to have in your phone and then to double down and say this is how I operate I will take a mental note first if you do it again I'm going to write down what I would have said to you if I had said something but I didn't say it that's what we talked about this last week like this is the argument that you have with yourself in the shower two hours after an argument right oh man I could have said this it's just like we know that that's what jessel does it's just weird I think you you kind of hit down the head when

you said that they just got a little too tipsy and we were talking about the same person over and over and over again jessel got to a point and look this might just be a weird jessel quirk that she just does this with people that she doesn't like or maybe she feels like they don't like her so she starts getting ammunition so that she can work herself up to then not like them in return. That's the best way I can kind of put that. I think that they just got a little tipsy, got a little out of control, and Jessel goes, I'm going to tell these girls

about the list and they're going to love it. It's like, no, nobody's really going to understand what the fuck you're talking about. Before that happened, right before they get back in these little cart things to go back to the house, they agree to stop talking about it. They agreed to stop talking about it, and Uber apologizes for her part in the whole thing. She goes, look, I'm sorry for my part. And then on the

right back, Jess was like, well, I got some shit on this bitch, and I'm about to lay it on you guys. I'm like, no, we're so close. Don't do it. I don't think that we were actually that close though because I don't think so either. We've seen Aaron try to quote unquote squash things in the past. She's so bad at squashing things because she tries to win the squash. That's the worst part that you can do in a fucking squash. And she's trying. There are winners in squash the sport. Just, you know, not this. And she tries to always come out on top of these like apologies or whatever you want to call them so i didn't think that the uba erin conversation one was going to happen

tonight like maybe just kind of let it simmer after that yeah just maybe let it simmer and talk about it the next day or wait until you get back to new york and just try to survive the trip i don't know aaron gets to talk to her dad and she's crying to her dad about it i thought her dad had some pretty good advice just let it lie stop getting involved she did not she tried to immediately talk to uba about as soon she got home just fucking leave it alone it's just like you just watched every time you talk about it. Uba gets remat about it. It's going to happen. Like, just fucking let it lie. Leave it

alone. No, Aaron takes it upon herself as soon as Uber enters the house. Uba can you, Uba come is what she said. Yeah, brutal intro, by the way. Come on, dude. And then I thought like, all right, maybe the fuck out of here. Uba, Uber didn't freak out about that first part, which I would have been pissed off

immediately. I would have like, fuck you. Yeah, walk away. See you. I was fine. And now I walked in this house and you said, come? Like, no. So she starts off terribly. The whole thing just spirals because Aaron does not let it go. Aaron is trying to prove a point, which, Aaron, you're not wrong. We get the point that you're trying to prove. It's stupid.

It's dumb. You're trying to get way too specific. Clearly, you've done this with Uber in the last two or three hours. She does not understand where you're coming from. She has her own issues with this. Just fucking agree to disagree. That's all you have to do. Let the entire situation settle down.

and then you two reconvene at a later date instead of trying to jump on it immediately. But this is when I started to feel bad for Aaron. When they get to the hot tub scene because now they're all tuned up a little bit. That's what I hate. And they all start to jump in out of nowhere. Like Brin, who they had squashed the abe shit, right? Like that was over and done with. But all of a sudden now Brin's got a major problem with Aaron about it.

And she's like, oh, I think it's pretty fucking weird that you would even like, that's pretty reckless to put it out there and say, all right, well, time out. Let's take a step back here. You want to jump on the fuck Aaron train right now. Let's not forget, you were the culprit. You were the one being inappropriate with, hey, that's still not okay. Just because she has squashed it and forgiven you for those weird things you were saying at her anniversary party does not take away from the weird things you said at the anniversary

party. You're still in the wrong here, not Aaron. So let's not forget that. But now you're trying to turn the tables and say, oh, that was reckless of you to put that out there. then don't flirt with her dude at the anniversary party that's all it's pretty simple and then definitely don't bring it back up in this weird moment just because everyone else is piling on her and jessel takes a turn brin takes a turn uba takes a turn to the point and you're watching it

happen in real time and i hate these moments and we've all been and like they even say that we've all been a part of those moments where you see it either you're there or it's happening to you and you just lose control entirely and everybody you're you get it left and right and you're like Jesus Christ, I can't handle this. This is too much shit. I'm going to fucking snap and she's either going to, one, punch somebody or two, she's going to curl up into a ball and start like crying and sobbing, which is what she did. And I genuinely felt for her there.

And thank God's sigh of all people is the voice of reason who's like, guys, whoa, this seems like a lot. Like this is an ambush right now. Let's pull it back a little bit. Finally, she gets out of the hot tub and bounces after she breaks. and that's when the group is like, oh, guys, I think, or no, as she's, like, starting to cry, that's when the group's like, well, I think we've gone too far, guys. I think maybe we pushed the envelope a little bit.

Let's reel it in within 10 seconds. Now Uba's hugging Aaron, and then Bryn's hugging Aaron. I'm like, you guys did this to her. And now you're like, oh, our bad, too far. We're cool now. We just wanted, and I guess there is a piece of it where it's like, this is your comeuppins. Like, you've been talking shit for 10 episodes. It's like, this is what you get.

I get that part of it, but not in an ambush. I'm never, never cool with an ambush. I'm never cool with everybody gang up on a person that's clearly about to cry and, like, lose their shit. That's never, never the right move. No, and I think that we, I mean, we talked about this pretty much the entire season about how quickly things get resolved. And maybe we were a little ignorant to how that works thinking, okay, it's resolved. It's actually resolved. And we don't have to hear about it again.

and this is it just kind of all opens back up for you know one way or another it just kind of comes all the way out look i i don't know i hope that this is the last that we hear about the stupid fucking phone prank um i think what we might get out of this now is Aaron might be a little bit more guarded about the things that she says because she does we can both admit this entire season she just says things that are mean to other people and she says it to their face which is you know you can take that with a gran of salt Yeah, yeah, that's true. Sometimes I wait until they're not there.

I just think she's a shitster. That's what she is. Yeah, she is a shister. And she's, look, she's on a housewife show. She's trying to figure shit out. I don't think, I don't really like the way that she does about it. But, you know, what are you going to do? I don't hate it.

You can't, yeah, exactly. For a TV show, you can't really complain about it. But I'm upset that they brought things up from the past because that's just, I just always fucking hate that. Like, shut up. We talked about this. We smashed it. We're done.

Let's move on. So hopefully it. is if this is the show that we think it is and we thought it was this whole season they will move on maybe aaron will be better for it she will not talk as much shit because she realizes you will get cornered in a hot tub and yell that and you will cry that's going to happen so there you're good maybe jessel will stop with her stupid list i mean that's probably a good place to start um and look i i think that overall you know you kind of got everything out in the air and everything seems okay now there's a hug so i don't know what i think to actually give credit to this season and this reboot as far as like, yeah, did we harp on something for 45 minutes that was not worth it? 1,000%. However, if it's actually squashed after one episode, that is still better than what we've seen out of other Housewives episodes where this instance would have gone on for three to four episodes of the same stupid shit. So if it's actually squashed, what I think, if I know this group like I think I do, I hope that this is now used as a joke. I hope this comes up in future episodes as like, oh, I'm going to take your phone. And they're able to just like laugh and move on from it.

That will show me that this is a different breed of housewife show and not something that we've dealt with in the past. Because like you said in the beginning, it was bound to happen. We got our first clunker. Like it was going to happen. You can't have a perfect season. going to get that. So I think that it's, you know, if they're able to move past this quickly, we're still on the right track here.

We're still doing just fine. Yeah, that's a good point. I did think that Bryn stole Uva's phone at the end there because she was smiling and laughing when she ran away looking for her phone. But I think she was smiling and laughing because Uba left her phone in the fucking car again. But is that one of those where it's so like don't fucking do that that it would actually be funny? That's what I think. it's like at that point it's so obscene that you're like

only brin could do it only brin could do that i think she'd get away with it yeah we'll see what happens next season i'm excited but that takes us down to the question portion of the show so let's see what we got my daughter's asking to download a game right now i have to okay it on my phone i guess that's technically a question Up first from KMP 225, do you think Taylor and Austin hooked up? Yeah, without a doubt.

No doubt, my mind. Yeah, yes. Yes. From Susie B. 0302, what Philly Sports family would be best on a housewives type show? The only families, and you get the Kelsey's, obviously. Yeah, they don't strict me as housewives types They just they just did like the documentary I think that's enough I don't want too much content

It'll it'll make things murky bro When it comes to Philly sports I don't know other families in the Philly sports I don't know you would have to be either It would probably have to be a baseball wife Because I was going to say I would do a show Baseball wives There was a show called Baseball Wives on reality TV

because they're like in some instances the the wags if you want to call them the wise and we met one of them we did we did a live show with one of them oh yeah Megan king right so there you go yeah that it would have to be a baseball player's wife i think that would probably fit the bill but moving on oh i like this from efits oh i like this from efits o seven bros need some fantasy football help can you list the top people to have on my list wait now That's too broad of a question. What do you need? Quarterbacks, wide receivers,

tied ends, running backs like that. Who's on your waiver wire? We can't get into that. It's week four, yeah. This isn't draft time, Fitz. Yeah, sorry, Fitz. From Girl at the Rock Show, and you asked the question

and you at least followed up at your last box with, sorry for the million boxes or never answered one of these before, LOL, love you guys? but the first part of her question was she literally one two three four five six seven she has seven boxes for one question is taylor responsible for staying in a relationship with shepp is that her do you blame her for i guess is what she's saying for staying with she for knowing who ship is for knowing who ship is yeah i mean we we saw that a bit last year where she was questioning her relationship with ship and i mean she had a perfect character assessment

of who Shep is questioned why she was in the relationship and then remained in the relationship. I don't know. I mean, those are like the inner workings of, you know, you're in a relationship, you stay in the relationship, but you know that there's things wrong. I think everybody goes through that, you know, it's just not, I wouldn't point at her directly and say, yeah, definitely blame her. She should have gotten out earlier because it's easier said than done. I think that's the best, like the best way to put it.

In retrospect, yeah, sure. And devil's advocate on the outside looking. in here sure there's a lot of red flags however if you're in love with somebody i think that you will always assume like oh i can change this person even when it's somebody like ship who has proven time and time again that he's not going to change and has even voiced that so i think that that's where it kind of comes into like oh is it her i don't want to say fault but like should she have left sooner yeah but again that's way easier for us to sit here and say that than when she's in the throes of an actual relationship with somebody that she's imagining

to the point where she'll quit her job and travel the world with him. So easier said than done. I guess you could argue that, but I don't think it's that cut and dry. No, never is. Let's do two more. From all hard agree,

why does anyone trust Austin? He continues to be a fuck boy and a bad friend. I don't know. He gets away with it, I think, because he's kind of like... He's like a golden retriever. Yeah, and that's really it. He just, he is one of those people that can come out unscathed from things after a certain amount of time because he's, he's charming and he has that, like, playful disposition.

It just there, unfortunately, there's people like that in this world that can get out of things scot-free, and he's one of those guys, and he will continue to be. I don't think that we're going to see the last of him because we like watching him on TV, guys. We all do, unfortunately. So if you don't like him, stop watching what you're going to because he brings a major fact. actor to the show. Yep. Oh, I like this. Let's finish with this one.

From Max June, Shooter. If you had to date, would you date Austin or would you date Shep? And it was directed at you. Just me? That's wild.

Singled you out. A Shep. Really? Yeah, he'd take me in a Royal Melbourne. Yeah, we'd have a good romance. We would go to Australia. He's identical twins. I'll take one.

He takes the other. It sounds great. Oh, you're dating ship, you dumbass. Yeah, but we're both straight. So what it really is is an I now pronounce you Chuck and Larry thing. Oh, you're going to pull a loophole. Yep. Okay.

All right, I think you sidest up the question, but I would probably date. I would date Shep, honestly, which is hysterical to say. But here's why you're going to get cheated on in either relationship. At least with Shep, you get more perks. That's a good point. I'm just going to play that. But other than that, you've got anything else? No.

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