Bros & Shows - Paige and Kyle Reconcile While Paige and Craig Drift Apart... (Summer House Full Recap)
Episode Date: March 14, 2025What's up Bros? Summer is officially fun again. The season is off to a great start. In this episode, Jesse is having second thoughts about his relationship with Lexi. Danielle questions Lindsay about ...Turner and his involvement in her life. Kyle and Paige hash things out at the beach and get back on good terms. Kyle confirms that Craig did in fact get kicked out of his wedding. West continues to respect Ciara by keeping his 'love interests' out of the house. Imrul is 2 for 2 on bringing ladies back to the house and is making for a very interesting character. Carl comes to terms with the fact that Lindsay is fully moved on and it's time for him to take the next step. Craig and Paige head to dinner where the writing is clearly on the wall that they're just never going to be on the same page about their future... Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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I think we can say Summer's fun again.
I'm having fun with Summer.
petition. Oh, okay. I'd like to petition Bravo to stop including any weird sexual noises in their
broadcast. Oh my God. Dude, I literally wrote, where is it? Where's this scene? Imrule. Imrule. Here he is. I wrote
why the noises. Yeah, we know. We know what's going on as soon as the blanket or shirt or whatever goes
over the camera. We don't need the noises. Look, right now. Right here. Imrule sex sounds not needed.
That was crazy.
to us and you feel strongly that they need to leave those in there, let us know.
Yeah, if you're an advocate for that. I need to know why. And I'm sorry we're starting the
episode out with that. That wasn't my plan. But it's a valid concern. It stuck with me.
And by the way, they went back twice. Both scenes had different sounds. Yeah, don't need it.
We know what's going on in there. Yeah. Once you put the blanket up, we got it.
Well, you don't. You know, leave some to the imagination. Why not? I'm not even imagining.
Just don't. I don't have to hear it. We can hear it.
me of my bros and shows.
Bros and shows.
Brows and shows.
I got to have read my Bros.
and Shows.
Good evening, everybody.
Welcome back to the episode of Brows and Shows.
I'm your co-host.
Steel Russell, joined as always by the one and only
Shummer Goots' house.
There we go.
All right.
Well, this episode was fun.
It was.
It was fun.
Everybody was vibing.
And we had all the weird stuff.
stuff out of the way in the beginning.
And we can honestly say, yeah, Craig and Page should have broken up.
It's very clear now.
Yeah, it gets clearer every time they talk.
And it's also interesting.
We've talked about it before, how if you're watching Southern Charm, you get a little bit
more of a Craig edit where it's a little bit more sympathetic to Craig.
When you get the summer house edit, I'm not saying it's more sympathetic to Paige.
I'm saying that's the actual story.
We're realistic, yeah.
Yes.
She is just growing and.
moving further from their original life.
Yep. Her career took a turn.
That's the truth. That's what happened.
And then on the other side, it's like, you know, Craig in the backyard, like, alone, sad.
And it's like, oh, it's like, no, no.
Nope.
That's not what's happening.
It is a very interesting thing to see, since they're both airing at the same time to kind
to kind of watch how they're doing it.
But we'll get to it in a little bit.
Well, we start out with just Kyle and Paige wrapping things up from last week.
Obviously, they went to go have their conversation.
and Kyle gives his little spiel of, you know, he felt that he was a personal attack,
then he felt that was a business attack and everything was an attack.
The good thing about Paige is that she's always fairly level-headed in most situations
so she can actually hear Kyle and be like, look, I get where you're coming from.
Once again, I'm not involved.
Yeah, we would have loved if Kyle had started this, I guess you can call it an apology.
It's more of a clearing of the air.
if he had started off the discussion with
I'm sorry that I put you in the middle
take some ownership of that
but I do like that Paige is able to
and obviously they've known each other for a while
and they've been around each other a bunch with Paige
being best friends of Amanda
she knows Kyle she knows what she's going to get
and this is as close to an actual
apology and ownership that she's going to get
she didn't get pissed off about it
she didn't immediately cut him off and say look
I shouldn't have been involved she waited for him to finish up
everyone else us included sitting at home
we're rolling our eyes like come on
dude like just apologize you don't have to start off by saying i was attacked over here and i'm
not teflon anymore and then craig attacked me and i've got hannah over here attack me as well
and what about you page and it's like she's not involved exactly just apologize for getting
her involved in something that she is trying actively to stay out of yeah she's doing her best
to avoid this awkward scenario and look i mean kyle's always going to wiggle out of it as we've
seen in the past. And I think that for Paige, she knows who Kyle is. So she takes it with a
grain of salt when he pops off like that. But without her being this mellow, I don't think
that they're going to be able to find a way through. But I think they're always going to be
able to figure it out. One, because at the end of the day, Paige and Kyle are friends. They have
been friends for a very long time. She knows who he is. She knows you have to put up with that
shit. And on the flip side, her and Amanda are best friends. And after losing the friendship between
Hannah Burner and Amanda, I don't think that she will ever let that happen again with Amanda.
And she'll do whatever it takes to maintain that friendship,
even if it means putting up with Kyle's shit.
But what was interesting to me is as they're hashing this out,
as they're going back and forth,
Kyle's explaining why he's upset about the whole thing.
Did you hear her say, I told Craig not to?
Yeah, multiple times.
That was interesting.
Yeah.
And she even said, took it a little bit further by saying,
when I heard what he was texting you,
I was a little disheartened.
Yeah.
Like, okay, that's a little interesting.
It sheds a lot of light on this whole situation where,
we don't really know where we stand because we've heard two different stories we've heard two different stories from kyle alone so i guess we've heard three different stories
the evidence is mounting dude it's mounting towards craig was well in the wrong yeah not just this was a miscommunication not just
he didn't know how to break it to you like he didn't even have pages support on this he just went off and did this on his own
so it's all pointing to Craig doesn't like kyle that's the vibe yeah the vibe is that he did
him a little dirty in this deal and i'll take it a step further and we're not kyle apologists by any
no you know obviously if you listen to us you know that we have been friends with craig on this show
for a while and we won't even say that this exonerates kyle either i'm not saying it's just giving us
more of the picture yeah and but my point is like even though like yeah we're tight with krague a
little bit i can see this and be like i'm trying to see where craig's in the right i don't think he is
at all. I think that he did him dirty. I think that this whole thing was set in motion,
the Spritz deal, and then he approached Kyle after he was already going to do it. And we talked
about that last week. That's the most likely scenario is this was just a courtesy text. Correct.
This wasn't a, hey, I was approached text. What do you think? It was, hey, I'm going to go ahead
and do this. I'm just giving you a heads up. But he probably, and it's looking more and more likely
that he didn't text him and say, I'm giving you a heads up that this is happening. It was, hey, I want
invest and then when he's like hold on
Kerrig's like oh shit yeah well I'm signing
tomorrow yeah that's the like but that's
here's what's fuck like how you merged Kyle and Craig in that last
one there's a cry o'er Kerrig
Kyrgyregg oh that's actually kind of a badass
high rig is a sick name sick name that's a good name
no Khyra fuck yeah
Kyraig Magooder okay that's pretty good yeah it's not bad
pretty good it's not bad I'll take that my that'll be my
sounds kind of Irish as it works pretty much
So, like, yeah, okay, I'll accept it.
But I'm going to take it a step further one more time because, look, I know how the general public feels about Kyle plenty of times from his own doing.
But this whole thing really fucked lover boy for an extended period of time.
And now we're talking about Amanda's income.
We're talking about Kyle's income.
I don't have a lot of sympathy for Kyle because, again, he puts himself in these situations.
But this had some serious ramifications.
And if it comes out, if we learn more and more and we're starting to get more of the picture, we're hearing that.
that Paige didn't support it.
She was kind of taken aback at the text that Craig was sending.
It's starting to look like he really fucked Kyle over.
He definitely did.
And I obviously there's not going to be any love lost knowing that Craig and Paige broke up.
Right.
Because Paige is still going to be team Amanda with Kyle.
And then Craig's not really going to be around.
I almost did the same thing that you just did.
Kyrig.
And I think that the funniest part about this whole thing is the more that we talk about it,
the more people are looking up the opposition brand.
Yeah.
And, you know, I.
lover boy's been a main stay on summer house for a long time i've seen it out in the wild maybe
it's just this distribution a couple of times i've seen it a few times i think when you and i went up
to new york i've seen spritz more frequently i've seen spritz way more frequently now and maybe
that's just again geographic but it's doing them a service of hey what is this company is it any good
let's try it out it's craigs i like craig and now we're talking about it even more so when
kyle goes on watch what happens live and he goes on summerhouse to complain about this it's
actually just free publicity.
It's a pretty rough look.
For somebody who's supposed to be this great business, man, stop talking about them.
Stop talking about it, dude.
Like, that's the biggest thing.
Like, like, Craig go market them.
Yeah, like, look, you got fucked over.
Sure, we see that.
And I'll agree with you.
Like, yeah, you got hosed a little bit.
But put the kibosh on it now.
I hate this term, but like, it's business.
It is.
Yeah.
I'm like, it is what, like, I agree with you there.
But like, just business.
Stop talking about it now.
You're doing spritz a lot of favors, and you are just because of your reputation in the past, like, you're doing damage to lover boy.
But I will say, I think that the last couple of weeks might have helped them a little bit because I saw it very different.
For his image, yeah, for sure.
We're still on the first scene of the episode.
Chastised page when she wasn't involved in it.
So anybody who didn't like Kyle before still cannot like Kyle.
Going back to my- Somewhere in the middle, you're like, ah, that's kind of fucked up that he did that.
And on the other hand, it makes it look a little bit better for Kyle, at least on the,
the Craig sprits of it all.
Right, but that goes back to my point of he does himself no favors.
No.
Like, he's not doing a good job.
Not doing lover boy any favors and he's not doing Kyle Cook.
No, but we can also recognize that Craig may have done him dirty.
So it's a two part of there.
But let's keep moving.
We're going to be here all day.
And we get to Lindsay and they're discussing boobs because she's pregnant.
And of course, Jesse's like, too hoo-hoo, like making boob jokes.
And they just keep flashing over to Lexi's face just like.
And this was not an edit.
This was not production.
This was real time because they had the full wide lens camera.
Jesse talks about boobs.
Lexi not so thrilled.
Rolls her eyes a little bit.
And it's, you know, it goes through a confessional.
And she says, I'm confident, but I do have insecurities.
That's one of them.
So to hear him talking directly about it, that stings a little bit.
And I respect it.
Like, this is tough because her feelings are valid.
Yeah.
Right?
Because of how fast they moved.
Like, she's allowed to feel these things.
I don't think it's crazy for somebody dating somebody to be like, hey, can you not comment on people's pictures, like sex things?
I don't think it is either.
And I think that the other part of this is her full transparency.
Yes, I agree.
Like, regardless of how fast they're moving, we're watching her in this fast moving environment, be fully transparent.
Tell Jesse all of the things up front.
She even goes a little bit further later.
And I think she even mentions it and she's self-aware saying, hey, yeah, if I don't do this now, then I'm not going to like what I'm doing.
makes a lot of sense to me.
So she has on camera and off
camera told Jesse multiple times
she's a little jealous. This is what's going on.
She goes further about like body image issues
and things like that specifically with boobs
and here's Jesse talking about boobs.
Right. So it's like, yeah, come on.
As much as I don't want to see this anymore,
you can't look at this objectively and say
Jesse's in the right, Lexi's in the wrong.
Right. It's like, is it cringy?
Yeah. Is it way too fast? Way too much.
Absolutely. Is she wrong?
No. Like so it's this fucking up
vibe of the summer house yes is it going to get worse probably one million percent one
it's it's going to be a full blown meltdown she's not there next weekend i'm actually kind of
happy about that that's when the trouble's going to start i know but like the vibe of the house
agree because we don't have to see like the lovey-dovey shit when i'm not even going to say if slash
when i'm going to say hopefully when it's ticking time bomb everybody's okay that's what we hope
like we're cool we hope that like we get through it without too much love lost hopefully she's new
and Jesse's enough of a dumb ass, like, who, who, whew, whatever.
That everybody can just kind of, like, push it under the rug and just leave it.
I don't know, bro.
She's really into them.
I just don't want it to be a bomb that goes off in the house.
It's going to be.
It's going to be.
Because here's my prediction.
After seeing, like, the cutesy shit between Sierra and Jesse, it's going to escalate.
We watch in the scenes from next week.
It already starts to because that's how it starts with, like, the friend hookup.
It's like, oops, I fell over.
Oh, I fell over again.
She's like, ooh.
We get the well-timed confessional from Sierra saying,
that she's never looked at Jesse like that.
I know.
It's just mounting the evidence.
That one's going to bite her in the ass if this goes away.
And I don't think it will.
I still just don't think it will because I think that Sierra,
after what she went through last year and the year before,
and the year before, actually.
Maybe I'm wrong, actually.
Yeah, yeah.
You might do it again.
Don't do it again, Sierra.
Just have a fun summer.
I don't think she will.
I don't think she will.
I think that the borderline stuff, the innocuous flirting,
I think that's going to be enough for Lexington.
Like, what the fuck?
And that's going to get Sierra pissed.
Like, dude, I wouldn't do that to you.
And then that's going to cause a rift.
And then Jesse's going to be in the middle of it.
And it's going to be a mess.
Okay.
That's what I can live with that.
Yeah.
Think.
Yeah.
Could I be wrong?
Have I been wrong about the summer house?
Many a time.
Because you're like, there's no way.
And then they do stick.
And you're like, fuck.
Good point.
I don't know.
This whole thing between these two are, it's very strange.
I don't know how to make it.
Like, I don't, because she, again, she is not wrong.
Yeah.
But it is a lot.
But this whole scene got me psyched for beach can jam.
Oh, I know.
I know, dude.
I'm so ready.
I love a good beach day.
Just love it.
I'm so ready to be so sore at the end of the day from playing spike ball and shit.
But just wait until you're sitting on that beach and you turn around and you just see me with a cooler and a spike ball over my back.
I can't wait.
And then you'll see me chasing a baby around the beach because Scotty will be running around.
Oh, yeah.
She's going to be a stud at spike ball.
But anyway, we get a little weirdness between Danielle and Lindsay.
and I mean it's only to be expected at this point
she has to know this shit
right she's like you don't live together
it's like you guys are friends I've had enough I last week
I was giving her a little grace I'm done I'm done with Danielle
I just don't understand what she's doing because here's the thing I know what she's
doing she's getting camera time bless you
double bless you but I think echoed all the way through
last week I gave her grace but I know exactly what she's doing
she's getting more camera time she's a friend of she's going to be there like
every other weekend or whatever it might be.
I don't think she's a full-time cast member.
We'll find out next week.
Those things don't really matter on Summer House anyway.
She's just getting in front of the camera so that she can judge Lindsay, which is what she
always does and what she's always done.
And no matter who her friends were in the house, right now, I would say people like Danielle,
but like she doesn't have friends in the house.
It's kind of a weird situation.
She's friends with everybody, but it's not like deep friendships.
Exactly.
A deep friendship I thought was Lindsay.
Was Lindsay and was Carl before that?
And now Carl's kind of like.
Carl's, Carl's lost.
Carl's, but that's okay.
It's totally fine.
It's okay.
We'll talk more about Carl towards the end of the episode.
This is just Danielle once again being judgy towards Lindsay.
She doesn't have a man of her own and she's going to be jealous and she's just going to self-project all over and talk about Lindsay as if it's a bad thing.
It's not a bad thing.
All of Lindsay's answers, every single one of Lindsay's answers.
I'm like, that makes sense.
That makes sense.
Look, you're going to have a baby.
You're going to love that baby.
Hopefully Turner loves the baby too and can stay around and you guys can progress in your relationship.
And if not, and she says this, if not, if it doesn't work out with him, then whatever.
I still have a baby.
It's like, okay.
I have the baby and I have my place of residence.
Like, what she's doing now is using her past experiences and saying, look, a lot of the
shit I thought was going to work out did not work out.
I am definitely bringing a child into this world.
The child is number one.
I hope it works out with Turner, but history has shown me.
It may not.
Yeah.
I'm going to maintain my autonomy.
she's got two things she's she's pregnant with this guy's baby yep while also going early into
a relationship and trying to move through that in the right way she's finally using sense to get
through a relationship it's like what are you doing it's like no no this is the right we're not going
to move in together yet we've been dating for six months yeah yes I'm pregnant sure it changes things
but that's a separate thing but she acknowledged that I know so I'm like okay I agree with everything
she said me good for you I wasn't unborn until she goes we're moving so yes I realize I'm pregnant
But I was like, okay, cool, two separate issues.
Yep, you're great, awesome.
Navigate. Have fun.
Amazing. Yeah, that's the first time you're doing it the right way.
And yet you're still getting shit for it, but whatever.
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You can't hide.
We got Jesse and West, and they're talking about Lexi on the beach, and he's like, you know, I'm feeling weird.
Just the jealousy stuff is kind of hard for me to get through.
But I haven't felt this way in a long time.
I do want to give it a shot because he says some of his only regrets is not seeing some past relationships through a little bit.
Yeah.
So I respect that.
I also respect him not wanting to lose himself entirely.
I also respect Lexi's side of saying, yeah, I get it.
But at the same time, I don't want to see my boyfriend commenting things on somebody's
Instagram post.
Exactly.
Makes total sense to me.
But then he flips it and says, well, what about you?
What's going on?
You kind of ditched us the other night.
So I guess that was a bigger deal than I thought it was.
His whole thing is, I don't want you to lose yourself in trying to be polite.
I didn't get Jesse's side of this.
I didn't really understand.
And it's very clear to me that Jesse doesn't understand where West is coming.
from.
Correct.
West is trying to be courteous and respectful towards what's going on.
And it's not a, as Jesse says, dude, you're single.
You can do whatever you want.
Like, who cares who you hook up with?
He doesn't understand that there are more feelings and ramifications.
And I don't get why he doesn't get that based off of how that first weekend went with Sierra.
Correct.
Like, West got dragged for, rightfully so, for his behavior towards Sierra.
Things are a little weird.
Let's not push it.
No.
I don't want to do that.
I'm going to be courteous.
I'm going to be respectful.
If I stay out because I'm with a girl, I'm going to stay out because I'm with a girl.
I'm not going to bring a girl back here because I feel like that would be disrespectful.
It is.
It is.
So that's where it is.
I feel like West handled this right.
And Jesse's just aloof.
Yeah.
Next summer, different story.
Yeah.
The immediate summer after where there's still emotions.
It's like towards the end of this summer.
Like if things are okay and things are progressing well and everything's kumbaya cool, great.
Do you know what the moment is?
What's that?
When Sierra hooks up with somebody else.
West is allowed to bring somebody back.
Not right away, though.
No, no, no, like two weeks after.
Two weeks.
Yeah, yeah, I agree.
See, like, she sets the tone and he respects the tone, and that's what he's doing.
Because he fucked the tone.
He did.
So now she has to reset the tone.
And once she resets the tone, then things go back to normal.
Correct.
Yep.
It's just music.
Yeah.
Everyone gets it except Jesse.
But, yeah, I was confused at his rationale there.
But the gang's getting ready to go out.
They get back from the beach.
Page can't help but mention to Sierra.
Look, he's funny.
Funny guy.
Funny guy.
He's just.
ripping he is a funny guy and i see on twitter like west is still getting a whole lot of shit
yeah well it'll subside it should at this point yeah and like you need in my opinion if look
if jesse fucks this situation up we will give him all of the shit needed to like you know us
we will go after him if needed but there's also some of this where it's like jesse and west are just
two morons that are fun to watch the idiots and sometimes that's okay sometimes if they're in relationships
it's going to take away from that.
Yes.
When I say that I don't want them in relationships,
it's not because I don't want them to be happy.
No.
It's because for my viewing pleasure,
they're funnier when they're single and idiots.
When they're Beavis and Butthead,
that's when they're great.
Exactly.
But people are like, give them shit for that.
It's like, no, that's what they're here for.
Well, I will give West shit for his whole dating show thing.
Oh, yeah.
That's on complex.
Yeah.
It's a, it's very derivative of,
what's that girl's name?
Amelia, something who does the,
the hot chicken or the chicken date show you've seen it before at some point she's the british girl
with blonde hair i'm blanking right now yeah it's all right she has a very funny show where she'll
have like actors and sports at like athletes and like all these other people on there and she sits
down it's exactly what west explains his show is okay where she she'll sit there in a chicken shop
and go on a date okay and just ask them like uncomfortable questions and push through and make jokes and
then whatever west was doing the same thing he just do other activities yeah yeah i got it i got it
With Hawk Tua.
She's going to jail.
She's going to jail, I think.
Did she ever pop back up?
The last thing I heard from her was, I'm going to sleep.
Well, she rug pulled.
Yeah, I know that.
I know all that, yeah.
And then they're pressing charges.
Oh.
It was the last I heard.
Yeah, tough.
That's an interesting rise in fall.
Maybe an unpopular opinion.
I don't think she should go to jail for that.
No.
If you're an idiot enough to buy the meme coin.
To buy a Hoctua coin, you should go to jail.
You should go to jail.
You deserve to lose your money.
You should be banned from investing in anything.
If you invest in meme coins in general, unless you're the one pulling the rug,
then you're just a scumbag.
You know, if you made $50 billion pulling the rug on a meme coin, you're an asshole.
But, yeah.
Aren't you investing in meme coins?
Fuck, no.
Oh, I did the, like, way back, but I put in $50.
Yeah, and you got $300.
Yeah.
And I was like, great.
And I sold, I didn't take my, like, entire savings to be like, hell yeah, meme coins.
Well, that's stupid, yeah.
Yeah, but that's what a lot of people did, and now they're pissed off, but whatever.
We get back to the house, everybody's getting ready to go out, and Carl's wearing green clogs,
which is an interesting choice.
It's a choice.
He's making a lot of choices.
A lot of choices.
I thought there were crocs.
I was going to be okay with crocs, weirdly, even though I'm not okay with crocs.
Yeah, but that's more explainable than clogs.
Yeah, the clogs, they just like those big Birkenstocks, that's what I figured, like the backless ones.
Yeah.
Which, like, I'm going to get in a lot of trouble.
in this episode in general already.
But men wearing Birkenstocks, no.
I'm not, I don't, is that an unpopular opinion?
Yeah, I think it is.
Really?
Yeah.
You agree with me?
I don't like Birkenstocks.
No, yeah.
I call them Jesus Sandals.
Yeah, they are.
They look like Jesus sandals, yeah.
Yeah, I don't, I, anytime, I've made Birkenstock jokes frequently.
Yeah.
If you wear them, I don't care.
I might crack a joke, but we're cool.
Shooter cares.
It's going to upset him, but.
Visually unappealing.
Seeing dude's feet in general is just,
I'm good.
Yeah.
I'm good.
But we're in the kitchen and Kyle and Sierra are talking and they're recapping the page stuff.
Like, how is it?
It's like, everything's good.
You know, it's a little overwhelmed.
Shocker.
Kyle gets too emotional.
But he's talking about his friendship with Craig.
And he's like, I thought it was this, but clearly it's not.
It's actually this.
And I'm not sure how I'm going to navigate next weekend because Craig's coming to the
house.
I don't think it's going to go very well.
The clip that we saw Craig's like, I said, I'll talk to tomorrow about it.
It's like, ooh.
So.
I don't, yeah, and we can talk about it because that's the only.
clip that we got. Yeah. Just get it over with. That's how it actually goes down. I'm going to be
like, bro, like, what are we doing? Just hash this shit out. Again, I don't blame Craig if he just
doesn't like Kyle. Sure. I could see, based off of what we've seen on Summerhouse, it's okay.
I think he would be fun to hang out with. He wouldn't be a close friend. I mean, no, not to me.
So I get it if Craig just doesn't like him, but at least for for the show, for your girlfriend,
for Amanda's sake, for everybody in the house's sake, just get it over.
with the bandaid off let it hang over. Especially if you did something to fuck him over. Right.
Just hash it out over with. Hash it out. Like there's no reason to drag it on. And we'll talk more
about it next week, obviously. But we get confirmation because we've heard about this and there
wasn't confirmation of it. Yeah. I think it's a bigger deal than like, because it's just,
it's another, it's another lie that he gets caught in. Craig did get kicked out of Kyle's wedding.
Yeah. And he, Clay, he denied it. It's been like, we've heard about this for what? Two, three,
We've heard about it for a while, and it was never really confirmed.
It was never confirmed.
There's, like, inklings.
Like, oh, I heard about this.
Kyle kind of indicated that it was true.
Amanda kind of stayed out of it.
Page never talked about it.
Craig denied it.
It was more, if I remember correctly, it was more central around who leaked it to the media.
Yeah.
And then everybody started fighting about, like, well, there were people there that were
in the media and they were reporting it.
Yeah.
I don't know about that.
There's a lot of uncertainty for a lot of that.
But we never really got back to, did he?
actually get kicked out of the way yeah we never found out and now Kyle's like yeah no he got kicked
out of the way he 100% got kicked out of the way he's like all right well there's confirmation once
again but we're at dinner and you know Jesse's a little flirty with page and it just wrote like oh he's back
like Jesse if you want to say it this way quote unquote off the leash yeah is night and day
that's an indicator like maybe you shouldn't be in this relationship exactly don't get into a
relationship if as soon as you're away from the girl that you're potentially dating you're behaving
differently you're behaving differently and you can say like yeah he's
back to his old self it's like that's not good no not if you're in a relationship no like you're
already talking about how you're sacrificing parts of yourself and you're willing to do a little bit
but if there's a stark difference between you in the house with lexie and then you out of the house
without her that's not good's your answer and we just saw it it's like very different and the one time
you're with her on the beach being yourself she didn't like it that's not good right out of the gate
let's not forget you've known her for two weeks yeah like it's just it it's got to happen soon
It feels like three years at this point.
I know,
parents who went clubbing with the parents.
It really does.
They've moved really fast.
But you get Carl, who's not dating and has not boinked in a year.
The last, this is a bigger, this is way bigger than just, I haven't boinked since Lindsay.
Yeah.
That means he hasn't had sex.
Lindsay is pregnant with another man's kid and he's living in the same house.
So he's still processing the emotions from Lindsay.
Mm-hmm.
Lindsay is pregnant in a four months pregnant in another relationship with another dude
and he hasn't even point another lady yet.
That's a lot of emotional baggage he's carrying around.
He needs to get this out of his system this summer.
He needs to go have some wacky, weird times and just move forward.
You know what you should do?
What?
Hang out with Emeril.
Honestly.
That dude, look, he'll help.
If he, I swear to God, and I like Emeril still.
I do too
It's an ever-present feeling
We're not really sure how we feel on him
He still like him
I could go very far the other way
It could go very far the other way as well
But just latch on
If you let him know
If somebody leaks this to the rest of the house
And Emerald sniffs it out
Dude
He'll invite you out the next night that he's out
Apparently all you have to do is hang out with him
And you're going to go home with a chick
Yeah
He's two for two
So those are good odds
I would just like
I think Daniel's O for two
Pal around with
foul around
didn't rule
but we get to West
West are you dating
and you know
the man is like
I'm West dating
like no
how many girls
you fucking huh
yeah
he's been bopping
around so much
with complex
that he's not really
he literally says
I don't really have
a personal life
because I'm just out and about
I can attest to that too
I mean I saw
he was
he was at one of the Eagles
games that I was at
in the playoffs
but he went to two games
he went to three games
in that day
yeah
and it was whatever
like it was an NFL game
at 1 o'clock
in Baltimore
Then he was up in Buffalo, and then he was down in Philadelphia for the night game.
Oof.
All three, he went to, like, the first half of all three games, which is atrocious.
That sounds awful.
You got to stay there for the whole game for at least one of them.
But, yeah, a half in each of them, that's insane.
But that is crazy.
Just getting on a jet going up to Buffalo, then going down to Philadelphia.
Like, that's crazy.
So he is doing that.
Yep.
But we finish up the dinner with the main course, as they said, Jesse and Lexi, and they're not official because, again, of the jealousy stuff.
And he's like, you know, I can't.
came into this weekend expecting to leave exclusive and now I'm not sure and a great question is
do you want to be exclusive are you feeling pressured to be exclusive I can answer that right now
he's feeling pressured to be exclusive that's not a good reason to get into a relationship
and I feel like he is doing his best to like push all this shit away it's like nah I really
like her it's like that's fine even when he has discussions with her it's not like it's not
what he said to everybody else yeah and again it's not like a hard feelings like let's map this out
it's a hey i'm just like feeling a little bit like this what do you think like tell me more about
this okay cool i'm glad we cleared the air it's like you didn't all you did was ask her more questions
about her and didn't tell her how you're feeling and i think what he's doing right now is and he's
talked about this he's been vocal about it he doesn't want to upset the vibe of the house and i think
that he feels this slipping away in the sense of if i break up with her now or
break it off now it's not even a breakup you're not exclusive if i break it off with her now
is that going to upset the balance of the house yes and i think it will it will and i think that unfortunately
you'd let her on for two weeks even if you had done it last week you let her on that whole weekend
if you had broken up with her then it still would have upset the balance you met her parents twice
yeah like even before the parents though i'm saying like that after that first weekend if you had
moved on oh that house would be a disaster upset the house so no matter what it's a lose
lose, lose, lose situation for everybody involved.
There's nothing you can do except dip it in the bud now.
But then maybe in a couple of weeks, things will just start to even out.
But she gave him a month.
Like, she even gave him an ultimatum.
Yeah.
Like, you really, if he fucks this up, you don't have an excuse.
She's been forthcoming.
She's given you a time frame.
She's told, like, she is, even if you think it's overbearing or not, she's being honest about it.
The ball's in his cord.
He keeps fumbling the whole thing.
Yeah, he's fumbling all over.
But we get back to the house.
It's 228 a.m.
Enrule, friend number two, and cue the gross sounds from his room.
I'm just happy that everybody came back at like after 2 o'clock.
Oh, yeah.
The whole house, the whole house, except for Lindsay, which is fine.
She's pregnant, totally fine.
The whole house minus Lindsay came back after 2 o'clock.
Great.
That's when Summerhouse is out of best.
Summer's fun again.
Yeah.
Yeah.
They're doing a great job.
It's been a fun summer.
I love that like Paige must have drank a little bit too much.
She's like, no, not doing the TikTok.
I'm out of here.
Yeah.
Right to bed.
Yep.
Vomiting in the morning.
Oh, yeah.
Yep.
Ah, it's a great sound.
It's a great sound.
That's all I get now when we go on, like, friend group trips.
Just the, I get to watch all you idiots in the morning, like, ugh.
That's not me in the morning.
And I get to be the guy, you know, the sober trope.
Glad I don't do that anymore.
Don't miss those.
It's like, even the nights that, like, I don't go super hard and I'll wake up and like, it's like 730, 745 or something.
I'm like, all right, it's nice out.
It's the beach.
I can go out.
Grab some coffee.
You're already out there.
that was last night how you feeling bud
fuck you why are you awake
I tried to beat you here so that I
could do that to you no nope
doesn't work I'm always out of the cup of coffee had a big smile
or the one time that I thought that you were actually
still in bed I came back for the beach
after a work out or like you would walk down to the beach or work out
or like you went and got coffee and I'm sitting there
I'm like fuck yep he's coming from his room
nope you're not going to be me pal
but
in the morning
you get Jesse and Lexi and there look
there's a connection here there's something there
Like the way that they're pillow talking with each other, it is sweet.
And he does broach the topic ever so slightly.
He's like, how do you feel about us?
I'm like, okay, cool.
She's like, I feel good.
And he's like, how about you?
And he's like, I feel pretty good, which was not a misspeak.
No.
That is exactly what you meant to say.
She's like, pretty good, good.
It's like, no, no.
He said pretty good is good.
Speak, though, because he's like, he broaches the topic, but he doesn't die far enough in,
I don't think, because he's like, I want to make sure that our intentions are aligned.
I'm like, all right, cool.
He's like, and I want you to be able to trust me.
I'm like, all right, great.
We're off to a great start, but elaborate on that because he says, you know,
I'm not going to embarrass you, but I'm a social person.
And then she's like, well, I've got these insecurities.
She brings up the boob thing.
And everyone's saying, oh, Jesse's a boob guy.
I don't think anybody said that.
I think she's saying that from yesterday.
Yesterday, yeah.
But when he's saying, trust me, I just wish, because all I'm trying to do,
I don't care about these two, really.
You know, like if they break up, whatever,
I'm concerned about the overall well-being of the house.
Yeah.
I need the house to vibe.
When summer house is viking, it's great.
When it's not, we've seen it in turmoil for the past few years because of this.
I do not believe that if, and we've talked about it, obviously, we throw the vibe off and the balance off of the house, I just don't think, and this isn't because Lexi's not great.
She's only been there for a couple of weeks.
It's not going to have that big of a fallout.
Like, yes, it might ruin her summer.
Yeah, which sucks.
By proxy, ruin Jesse's summer, I get, like, it depends on how he comes out of it.
It's self-inflicted.
And it could, again, by proxy, ruin West's summer.
Yeah.
Because Jesse's down in the dumps, and that's his boy.
Otherwise, I think that everybody else would move on pretty quickly.
I think we would.
Just because they're not emotionally attached.
I think we would.
I think we would, yeah.
No, I agree with you.
I'm just, again, like, I wish he'd said I want you to trust me and then go into exactly what you mean by that.
Right.
If I comment on a post, that's just who I am.
these are my friends. Amanda's married. It's a schick with Kyle even. Sierra and I are just friends
for now. It's just like a conversation that could be, hey, maybe we slow down a little bit and
see where it goes. And if her response, which it might very well be because she's been saying
this is, you know, this is who I am. I like to be all in or all out. Then you know what? Maybe
this isn't for us and maybe we'll just see where we are at the end of the summer. Sure. That's what
you do. He just, he'll give you an out if you just talk. He's afraid. He's afraid to do too much. He's
afraid that he's going to say too much and he's going to push her away and make her upset
rather than you might upset her. But then at least she knows exactly where you stand because
this is just more of what we've seen of tiptoeing, dipping a toe in. Let's talk about it.
I don't want to talk about that much of anymore. And then she brings up the boob thing and he
completely changes the subject. And then the conversation's over. So you haven't really accomplished
a whole lot. You're more or less right back where you started it. It's just all you've said to her is
trust me. That's not enough. That's not enough. But whatever.
The most relatable thing I've ever seen on this show is when Jesse gets back to his room with West.
And he's like, just give me a sec.
And just lets like a 10 second fart out.
That's the most relatable thing.
I thought the most relatable thing that you were going to talk about is Amanda ordering like 15 different types of like cheese and steak.
Yeah, that too.
That is my move.
That's a 100% verified certified move.
Recently it's been like late night Taco Bell that like you don't eat all of it.
But a lot of it goes into the fridge.
and then you order more food the next day
and then you have like a whole smortersport.
Yep.
Yeah.
Like anytime I order Taco Bell,
especially if it's DoorDash,
because you just click.
It's like the most random pile of shit.
It's like a crunch wrap.
Three cheese you already to crunches.
Two soft tacos.
Some random thing they just dropped.
That never actually tastes as good as you wanted to,
but it's the new thing.
You got to try it.
A lot can'tina chicken cassidia now.
Oh, really?
Oh, yeah.
Interesting.
Fancy.
Fancy.
I just go for the diarrhea cassidia.
Yeah.
Because no matter what you do.
But now they've got the canteena taco
bell down in the center city so it works out really well that the one with the booze in it yeah i haven't
been there i mean you got to go i have to go at least once just to like start off and have like
vodka and a baha blast like a frozen baha blast of the vodka in it yeah that got you going
god i'm so fortunate that those weren't around what i was not calling to be dead because you know
it's like absolute bottom bottom shelf vodka too but like you can't taste it because the baha blast
flavor just takes over though where steel
fucking talk about canteening.
I don't know why too,
but like every time that I imagine this place
and I haven't seen it in person,
I feel like there's a fun house in there.
I got to be.
There's a playground of some minds.
And it's for adults.
Yeah,
just covered in vomit,
probably.
But anyway,
we get pool side.
And I love that him rules
just ripping out some push-ups
before he gets out there.
He's like,
got to look good.
Always got to look good.
But everyone finds out,
he brought another girl home.
Carl's like,
he's perplexed.
He's like,
I can't even imagine, like, kissing a girl at the bar, and this guy's just...
Was Lindsay out there at that time?
Oh, I think so.
I couldn't have...
They didn't, like, flash over to her until after this.
Oh, I don't know.
So I think she was around, but not they...
I can't imagine Carl was talking that freely about that.
But see, that's the point of, like, what I said.
I think that at some point this summer, I don't think he's moving on until they talk.
Yeah.
Really don't.
I do see a conversation that's very quick, but it's enough for both of them to kind of be like,
we're good now.
Yeah.
Like, I see that coming at the...
some point. And I don't know if he's going to be able to get past it. We get a cut
scene of some girl next week. He was like, I'm getting lemur energy. And he's like, fuck
yeah. I'm like, is that what you like lemurs? Yeah. I love lemurs. All right. If that's
what it takes. Great. Whatever. Maybe that's what you need. I don't know. It's just,
it's a strange, it's a strange place to see him. It is. He's just kind of treading water,
just trying to figure out what's next. But em rule joins. And they're like, where'd she go?
He's like, oh, shit. I didn't see her leave. She's still here? They're like, no.
I couldn't tell if that was genuinely where he's cracking a joke.
I don't know.
But we get to learn more about him.
And these are the moments in which I'm like, I like this guy.
Yeah.
Because you can obviously get fed up with the like fuck boy routine, bringing chicks home.
You haven't seen him be a fuck boy.
That's a good point.
Like literally a fuck boy, then yeah.
He's like he's the most literal, not negative fuck boy.
Yeah.
Like, because he's literally that's what he's doing.
Yeah.
Like it's an action.
We haven't seen him have the persona of one.
He's just doing it.
Yes.
Yeah.
But transparent about it.
He's getting the end result without all of the bullshit before it.
With full transparency, therefore making him not a fuckboy.
Yeah.
It's very confusing.
It seems to have cracked the code a little bit of how to avoid being labeled a fuckboy.
But we find out that he got married.
He was an undocumented immigrant.
Ended up falling in love.
He does clarify that we were actually in love.
Him and his girlfriend who was a U.S. citizen ended up getting married.
He got his papers.
way at some point this wasn't for them they got divorced i guess and he realized especially
towards the end of his marriage like this is not who i am i can respect the fact that this dude
fully embraces who he is and he says things like you know be okay with who you are don't
change you are for anybody and like you know one day if i do change how i behave it's because
somebody's going to come along and make me change that behavior i'm like that's arguably the best
way to find love yeah if they make you want to be
I'm a different person.
So he might, like I said, have cracked the code.
Be upfront and honest.
Be confident with who you are.
Be yourself.
Wait for the right one.
Yeah.
Could be.
There's, I have no issues with what he's doing.
I have no issues at all with what he's doing.
Except hearing it.
I don't need to hear it.
He lives in a world where something he does here or there could push us in the other direction.
That's why I'm leaving it so open.
Yeah.
But right now, I mean, we're going to be transparent with you guys too.
He taught us transparency.
Yeah.
We're going to be transparent and tell you every episode where we are.
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you have a little crush on me?
And I'm like, oh, my God, this is not going to be good.
This is not good.
This is a disaster.
What are you guys doing?
Stop it.
You know, Jesse, that Lexi is very jealous.
Like, this is, it's just not a good look.
It's not.
And I have, they're just friends for now.
And I don't think it's going to escalate much past anything.
But you do see the Austin Powers move.
Oh, I fell over.
Like, there's just.
Yeah.
For the sole purpose of the fact that Lexi, even if you're annoyed by her,
even if you think it's too much she's been open she's been honest she said 18 times i get jealous
i don't want you doing certain things if you're gonna be with me this is how it is and yet he's still
doing it it's like dude you gotta know where this is gonna go just have to know where it's gonna go and
also doing these and doing your confessionals if you do end up dating this girl who is very open
about being very jealous about all of this and she sees this now and you
guys are six, seven months in, she's going to fucking hate you.
Yeah, because you did it behind her back.
Yeah, and he's probably not even thinking about that.
I'm assuming, again, because we watch this week to week, it's way different for us,
but in the moment, it's probably such a whirlwind of activities and all these things.
He's not thinking down the road.
No.
He's trying to figure out what he needs to do right this instance.
He thinks about it when he gets back to New York and goes, oh, fuck.
And then he gets back to Summer House, he's like, hell yeah.
Yeah, and especially with her not, like, the other part of this, just with
the type of dude that I like Jesse and I like that you know last year he was just straightforward about
hooking up he wasn't looking for a girlfriend was up front about it he was dating but he always told
the girls he was dating like I was probably going to go anywhere right I like jesse but all of the
things that he's just setting himself up for an absolute downfall yeah it's not going to be pretty
and when he looks back on it like how can you do this after watching what west did last
that's my whole thing he's doing the same thing yeah like this is literally copy paste of what happened last
yeah like a lot of people love sierra more because she's been on the show for longer but it's still the
very it's a spitting image of the same situation it really is it's going in the exact same direction
and the other thing with a dude like jesse who has felt a little inhibited over the past few weeks
because of the lexie situation when lexie's not the house it's going to be like holy shit i don't have any
guardrails and he's going to push things too far just wonder if he's just wonder if he's
He's going to, and like, he'll make jokes about it, but will he actually internally say,
wow, I feel like I'm back to myself.
No, but she's not here.
This is a problem.
And he's, no, no, he's not going to say that.
He's not going to do that.
He's going to push.
Everybody else is going to say that, and he's going to make jokes about it.
Yeah.
But he's not going to actually realize, like, ooh, yeah, this isn't going to work.
But their jokes about Lexi over the weekend is going to push him further into doing stupid shit.
He's going to feel like, oh, my God, I don't have any anything on me this weekend.
Like, I'm going to go nuts.
And that's where stupid shit.
happens and that's when she comes back the following weekend the vibe's different she's like what
the fuck what happened someone's like oh oh you mean sierra like oh they were just like playing around
and then she gets mad at sierra now sierra's like who the fuck is this like you're gonna test me
and then jessie's like oh shit and then the whole house erupts and now do we need one weekend
of complete just obliterating everything yes we do yeah we do one yeah do we need that episode six
No, we don't.
No.
Because that's a, then we got episode six, then seven, eight, nine's about fixing the house.
Then we get the house fixed.
Get the awkward 10, 11 episode.
That's why I'm holding out hope for the rest of the house not really being emotionally invested
in this.
And knowing every step of the way, because Jesse keeps talking to everybody about it,
knowing where it's going to go, they might be bracing themselves for impact.
And when it does happen, it really shouldn't mess up the house.
That's what I'm hoping.
The rest of them should be open.
I'm okay if just Jesse and Lexi need to figure stuff out and it's awkward.
I don't want her to get steamrolled.
As long as the rest of the house. It's like, hey, you know, we've got Craig coming in this weekend.
Oh, Jesus.
We've got to get Carl laid.
We've got, we've got bigger issues.
We've got bigger fish to fry here.
I just don't want her to get steamrolled.
She's not my favorite, but I, she, again, she doesn't deserve to get steamrolled.
She's been up front, so she doesn't.
But we get back to the city.
Craig and Paige are going to an Australian restaurant, which is interesting.
I, I'm so sorry to my Aussie listeners to our Aussie listeners.
I wasn't my favorite.
Did you eat kangaroo?
Oh, kangaroo is delicious.
Okay.
Kangaroo, when cooked well, I mean, cooked the right way.
You have to have it medium rare or rare.
There was not one blooming onion in sight.
I'm missing out.
Blumen onion.
Everybody knows.
Real oldies eat blooming onion at the outback with a nice big can of fosters.
If you say fosters over there, people want to punch you in the mouth.
They don't drink fosters.
No, no.
They drink out of the big oil rig can.
No, fuck.
I brought it up when I was there.
like, I, you know, drink that piss.
I'm like, sorry.
Sorry.
Yes, Christ.
Foster's Australia for beer.
I was mean.
That was mean.
You're taking shots at Australia, dude.
I don't know.
Kangaroo is delicious.
I will clear that one up.
So the funny thing is, and this is just where my brain goes, and we already talked about
Taco Bell.
I thought about Demolition Man.
Oh, yeah.
Where every restaurant is Taco Bell.
Every restaurant's Taco Bell.
Is that demolition?
How I got there?
Yeah, it's demolition.
I always get that mixed up with, oh, Judge Dred's.
yeah yeah still alone uh but oh i know you know how i got there how i went from this doesn't
look like an outback steakhouse there's no bloom and onion it's an upscale outback steakhouse
when's the last time i've heard of an upscale fast food restaurant or you know something along demolition
man taco bell i can see how you got there i could have done that too that sounds like my thought
and then i had to rewind because my brain was doing that while i was watching the same totally but have you
ever had lion no me neither and you have lion that's what i thought he was like
I had lying, I was like, is that legal?
That doesn't seem legal.
I don't know.
I have had to go on a mission with Shep.
Oh, probably South Africa hunting trip or some shit.
Yeah, I got a lot of stories.
Yeah.
Yeah, not personally.
I just know people that do that.
And it's so dumb.
They pay like 70 grand to go on a guided hunting trip in Africa.
No.
And these guides literally, dude, my uncle, dry, like they're in a, like, 18-seat, like,
beautiful Polaris Ranger,
like an outdoor golf cart they can go up mountains they pull up to a herd of zebras the zebras
don't move he gets out of the car with like a 50 cow which the bullets like this big and goes
boom from like 10 feet away and he's like check that out man we've been stalking him for three days i was
like you videotaped it you showed it to me and you're out of it that's that's awful not a fan
it was it was like a snuff film for for animals it was horrible not a fan but anyway i have had squirrel
and it's not bad.
Squirrel.
I've had squirrel in the salmon.
I had squirrel stew.
Yeah, you've got to stew that kind of stuff.
And it was not bad, actually.
But that's also where I got rabies.
We get to the business, if you will.
And this was probably the most cut and dry, like, this ain't it.
Yep.
But I've seen.
Definitely.
Because one side, you got Craig.
And I get where Craig's coming from.
He wants this simple Charleston life, hang out in the backyard, have some kids, slow
down all those things run your stores great page has been and we know this because she always is
up front honest about where she stands she doesn't even pull punches she's talking about linds getting
pregnant she's like oh i was like oh thank god it's not me and you can tell that rubs craig like the wrong
way and he makes like a comment about she's like i'm not getting pregnant anytime soon and she goes on to
the career thing and the disconnect now which has grown from you know i'm living my life here
leaving out there is he's now got expectations of where this needs to go.
She is now feeling like her success is a hindrance on their relationship because she doesn't
think that Craig even wants her to be as successful as she is because he makes comments like
one day you got to slow down.
One day you can't be this busy.
But everything he does is always, yeah, one day.
One day, one day.
When is that day?
And that day is, and I think Paige did this perfectly by going through her whole career.
talking about this. And I understand the way that Craig was phrasing it by saying, you know,
we need to right now, I just want to make sure that we know down the line, we're going to be
able to do these things. Because we're getting so busy. Yes, because we're getting so
busy. So I want to do this now before you go off on your tour, before I go open this new store.
And I understand that sentiment. Sure. But we've seen Craig in all of these, in all of these shows over
the years, Summerhouse and Southern Charm and Winterhouse or whatever. He would
truly give Paige a baby tomorrow.
Oh, yeah.
If she wanted it.
Absolutely.
And I think that she phrased that perfectly.
Like, you keep saying one day, you keep talking about down the road, you keep talking
about our careers and how we need to make sure that we have some time for each other.
I know what you're saying.
However, if I told you right now, I'm going to take, I'm going to slow down on my career
and I want to get pregnant tomorrow, you would drop everything and do that because that's
what you want the most.
And that's not what I want right now.
It was, obviously, it's been hurtling towards this conversation.
Yes.
But it's never been clear.
these are two people who want two very different things right now.
Yes.
And within the next three, four, five years.
Yes.
Craig is not going to sacrifice that.
He's just going to get sadder and sadder.
Paige is going to focus on her career, and she can't worry about Craig getting sadder and sadder.
She doesn't need to.
No.
She doesn't need to because she's made her intentions very clear, as is he.
But, like, he still has this inkling that she's going to be like, yeah, you know what?
You're right.
But she's being very honest.
She's like, my career took a left turn.
I had no idea that Giggly Squabwe.
was going to blow up like it did, I'm going to pursue that.
I don't want to live.
And I think that's the root of it all forever, honestly.
I don't ever want to live a slow life.
Yep.
And I think that from day one has always been this cloud that's been following them around,
but they refuse to acknowledge it.
And I'll give Paige some shit for that too, because I think she's known this for a very long time.
I think that it's becoming ever present because of her success.
And the fact that she says to him, like, are you happy for my success?
And he's like, yeah, of course.
It's like, I don't know.
I think that he does feel some type of way about it.
I think that she feels some tape away about his responses to her success.
And like, I think she's taking it negatively that he's like, I want to slow down because she's like,
well, you're trying to limit me.
And I'm like, you don't need to be limited.
And that's fair.
This is going to sound mean, but I don't mean it in a mean way at all.
I think early stages of Giggly Squad and her seeing some success, but not really knowing where
it was going to go.
And now people are telling her.
And obviously, she's got brand managers and podcast managers.
nationwide tours and all these things that are happening right now people telling her like yeah this is
going to grow this is going to explode it's legit you're going to be doing this for a while you're going to be
very busy for a while before that when she was just doing a podcast with her best friend doing you know
back when she was doing fashion yeah she was doing like open box things on tic talk and instagram or whatever
i think the idea was yeah if this blows up that would be incredible for me and i would love that
if it doesn't Craig Craig yeah it's a backup plan yeah and that is unfortunately what it probably
was. And I don't blame her for that at all because you don't know what's going to happen with these
things. Podcasts, we know it. It could completely fail or you could get to a point where you can make
a living off of it. Maybe you can make a very modest living or you can make a crazy living. She didn't
know where it was going to go. So Craig doing all the things that he was doing, that looked nice and that's
my partner. If this doesn't work out, then I still have Craig. It's working out. Do you still
have Craig? That's the problem. You do. And this was this was the moment. This is the moment when you
look back where did all go wrong not even wrong like where did they grow apart finally and like
the funny thing is like this isn't new information right this is just the first time it's like
i'm not slowing down you want to slow down this is an impasse we're not going to work past
this like they they could have broken up at this table yeah that would have made a lot of the
australian yeah where she's like you don't me an australian restaurant i was like he he doesn't
have the balls to he didn't have the nuts to break up with you and like for him to even go on and
Not like in a mean way.
I'm not saying it like that.
No, but like he would never be the one to bring up.
It can be when he says things like,
I've never thought of being like a submissive relationship.
It's like, oh, yeah, after she just questioned your support for, maybe don't say that.
Yeah.
Like, and I get that he feels a type of way, but it's like she's trying to tell you that
her life is going in a direction.
She never thought what happened.
And she's excited about it.
And you want to bring her down to Charleston, which is fine, but you should also be able
to recognize in that moment when she says, what, you don't like a strong independent
woman am i supposed to apologize for that my career is is taking off on a fucking rocket ship i don't
want to live a slow life she just told you everything she needs and you're not acknowledging it so that
for me i'm like bro it's on the table yeah like this is the future and i don't think it's it's
unfortunate because i mean we all know sitting at home so i'm sure she knows Craig does want all of
those things he's not going to just adjust because your career took off and you shouldn't have
And he shouldn't have to, and you shouldn't have to
go do these things and slow down.
So you're on different patterns.
All of us watching this, we're like, yeah, Craig is
never going to look at you and say, I'm so happy
that your career is taking off. He is happy that your
career is taking off. I do believe that, yeah. For your
lives together, he's not happy
because it means he would have to change his whole way
of thinking. Kids, five, six, seven, eight years
down the road. You'll be 45. You don't know
when that's going to happen. Marriage, yeah, that could
still happen. Engagement, of course, that's still,
all those things are still in play. But you need
to retool the way that you're thinking.
We watch you with your friends down in Southern Charm say all the time.
Like, I'm working all the time now.
Now, obviously, we have the breakthrough with Austin.
Then we discussed in our last episode of Southern Charm.
But maybe he'll chime in on that one.
Maybe he will.
Intent.
But now you're looking at it like, shit, I need to stop thinking about all these things and just
be a supportive boyfriend.
I don't know if I can do that.
And that's the problem.
That's the impasse, right?
Like, is that that would be the correct response.
The page knows that he's not going to give that up.
He wants to be a dad.
And there's what she said.
If I gave you a.
baby tomorrow you'd be like let's go live in charleston and just do this and he's like yeah
yeah so like again the writing's on the wall you guys want two different things that's totally
fine and yeah they honestly they should have just been like high five this is it smell you later
but uh yeah it's uh it's been an interesting journey to watch i'll tell you that much and
at the end of the day dude like fuck it page you're you're killing it yeah see where this goes
follow this as long as you possibly can you might be the next
fucking Joe Rogan, who the fuck knows?
Gilly Squad is massive.
Yeah.
Let's get to some questions here.
From Giorolo,
would you wear Carl's shoes?
No.
No, I would never.
No.
Not even as a goof.
Nope.
Love you, Carl.
Love you to death.
From Lem vibes,
which Southern House guy is your type?
My guess is shooter goes for West,
steel goes for Jesse.
Really flip that, right?
Yeah, I think flip that.
You go Jesse.
I go West.
Yeah.
You got us wrong, man.
Yeah. Close, but wrong.
Yeah, same wheelhouse, different stature.
From Jacqueline, Michelle Kress, what are your thoughts on Danielle questioning, Lindsay?
Bizarre.
Bizarre.
But also par for the course.
Yeah, we expect it, but we don't like it.
It's still always strange to happen, yeah.
From things I like, things I love.
It's a great one.
I like that.
Do you all think that West would care of Jesse and Sierra eventually dated?
No.
I don't think that he would at all.
I think, if anything, he'd be released.
because he's like, all right, now she definitely can't get mad at me.
From Amy Bullock 8, did you notice they stop showing the faces of the hookups?
With Emroll, they haven't shown either of them.
It's all about did they sign the waiver?
Yeah, that's all.
And he's sneaking.
Imral could be like, yeah, don't sign that.
By the way, that's, no, it's not even that.
It's like, hey, get in the fucking house.
Keep your head down.
Like, no, I don't want you to see these people.
Because then, then they can post and then they're like,
Imral, remember, it'll be a whole thing.
And he wants, but he seems to know the second one.
He's like, yeah, I know this one.
Literally what he said.
This is actually a funny question.
From Billy Big Deals, our boy, has Lexi ever spoken to anyone out of the house other than Jesse, silent in every other scene?
She tries.
People don't talk to her.
Yeah, it is kind of sad.
Like she jumped into the one TikTok.
At the end, and they're like, ugh.
They're like, yeah.
That's sad.
And you know what the big part is?
She's tried.
It's just.
She is trying.
And I think it's in a bad spot, too, with Jesse.
Well, here's the other thing.
In this house, okay, the women.
that are left in this house, are very close.
Yeah.
They're also older than Lexi.
She's got a different energy, a different vibe.
So I think that she gets overlooked and almost like, ugh, like that kind of vibe.
And I feel bad for her.
That every time I see an episode somewhere else, I end up just feeling bad for Lexi.
Yeah, so do I.
From DR cards.
Doctor cards?
It could be Dr. Cards.
Do you sell cards?
Do you trade card guy?
So, uh, Shooter McCuter.
Oh.
That's me.
That's dirtier than anything I've ever said.
That would be me.
Who would you rather come back full-time, Danielle or Hannah?
I would say Danielle, because she's the devil I know.
Hannah has gotten too big for her britches, and I have no idea what kind of monster would come into that house.
She was already very unenjoyable when she was on the show.
If she comes back now with a full head of steam, I think it would be intolerable.
It would ruin the show.
She can't even go on a red carpet without fucking pissing
off Meg the Stallion who in every interview
I've seen is like such a nice person
and she fucking and even in that moment
did you watch that? No I can't
When she said anytime I listen to your music
it makes me want to fight people. Yeah
at the Vanity Fair red carpet
Nope and then she backtracks is like I meant this
It's like you said that yeah
No she sucks
I just I want nothing to do with her
Yeah fucking Danielle full bore
Captain microaggression yeah I'm good with Danielle
But anyway
That's all I got you got anything else
Nope
That's our show.
Pro's got to go.
See you's tomorrow.
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