Bros & Shows - Papa Smurf & Mr. Clean in the Basement (RHOA Full Recap)

Episode Date: May 7, 2026

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free of charge. BetMGM operates pursuant to an operating agreement with Eye Gaming Ontario. Two things. one, this season continues to rock. And two, that may have been one of the most entertaining back and forths I've ever witnessed. I don't know whose team I'm on. I'm really, really hoping that this episode helps me personally. Like, I might need to hold your hands because I need to figure out what's going on.

But it was so entertaining. I was so enthralled the whole time. I take back everything I said about going to Dallas. I was very harsh about it last week. I take it all back. As there's a drive in a deep left field by Castellanos, it will be a little bit. It's 8 o'clock. And so that'll make it a...

I don't need the spotlight. I shine just fine. Hi, I'm Karma. And yes, I am a bitch. Brov Bros. Good evening, everybody. Welcome back to another episode of Brav Bros. Your favorite podcast from the Bros.

For everybody, for whoever wants to listen, I'm your co-host, Steele Russell, joined as always by the one and only, Dallas Magoutar. What's up, dude? Yeah, we're just going on a little tequila run. nothing crazy about this. We got a pool house. We got a pool house and a pond house.

Pull house will be better for you. Hey now. A little caddy shack. Love that. Yep. I mean, this episode was, it was really great for a couple of reasons. Not a whole lot happens,

but it was still wildly entertaining. That being said, like things are happening within the group. We have some spats and things like that. But as far as like subject matter, there's really not a lot going. going on and yet it was still a fantastic episode. Yeah, tale is old as time. Housewives go to a house, beautiful house, a lot of rooms.

Somebody's going to get the shit into the stick and they are going to throw a pity party. And that's what happens. And it just, it really matters as to what the rest of the cast does when that pity party starts. Exactly. That is such a big, big barometer of is this episode going to be good? Is it going to get bogged down by the same bullshit? And this one could easily have gone that direction. It doesn't go that direction.

But with the way that the poolhouse crew handled it, it could have spiraled into just a ridiculous, stupid episode about nothing but complaining. And I fear that we're going to praise the show too much and that it's going to go the other direction. But I was genuinely concerned because Kelly doesn't have a lot to talk about, right? Shimea has nothing to talk about. Now they have something, a position of leverage, if you want to call it. call it that. And I thought they're going to beat a dead horse. They try to, but we have so much going on with the other crew that we don't get stuck there. It's weird too because I actually think

and it's a real, real competition for the bottom of the power rankings right now between Shmi and Kelly, you know, Frick and Frick and Frack, if you want to call them that or they are they are. They are. They're not freaking fricking frack. We have a better duo name for them. but I honestly thought that Shemia handled it fine. Like I had no real issues with Shemia in this episode. And I know that, you know, we've been a little hypercritical about her, but she hasn't been bringing it.

There's just nothing there. And we can tell what she's doing. And we can see it from a mile away when she tries to manufacture storylines and they're just not hidden. I thought the same as you. I thought up, here we go. This is your leverage.

You're going to go ahead and run with it. She kind of took a back seat. Kelly's the one who's sort of running with it. And Kay Michelle coming out of left field without glam. That I did not see coming. But I thought, reasonably Shemia, as she usually does, had some pretty good confessional. So it keeps her afloat for now.

Kelly on the other hand, I don't know what I want to do with Kelly. Yeah, you can tell what she's trying to do in confessional. She's trying to have a moment. She thinks she's having a moment. I think production is egging her on during those. Probably like, yeah, yeah, keep going. Keep going. And she keeps going.

I'm like, no, stop, though. Yeah, it's not working. It's not landing the way you think it's landing. But last week, she went on a tangent and then she was singing, like she was singing horse a couple of weeks. ago. She went on a different tangent the week before. And I think a producer actually stepped in and said, like, are you done? Are we finished with all of this? I don't even think producers are pushing her along. I think she's just doing this on her own, which goes to show you why I think that, you know,

this, this isn't looking good for Kelly this season. No, and I'm curious because I didn't mind Kelly last year at all. Like, I thought she was a good fit for the group. I think she's having an identity crisis as to what she wants to be in this group and what her actual role in this group is. You know what I mean? I feel like she wants to be an HBIC. She wants to run shit. That's not your niche here. It just isn't.

And if you can find where you fit in, and we can call it sophomore slump, maybe if you want to, but if you can find where you fit in, I think she'd be fine. But it's like she's buying for a top spot. And it's like, those aren't up for grabs. No, they're definitely not up for grabs, but also she has, has to be able to have friends in the cast. And right now, the only confidant, the only friend that she has is Shemia. And Shamiya, I think actually has a better position to get back into the group because

they've all known her for so long. I mean, my girlfriend's rewatching like 10 years ago or Portia and Kenya's first season on the show. And you can see Shemiya's like mixing it. Like she's all over the place. And she's been a friend of or close to a friend of on this show for a very long time. So they all know her. So I feel like she has a much easier path to get back into some.

of the good graces anyway but kelly kelly's not only is she not on you know on the friend radar she's not really even on the enemy radar for anybody except for portia she's sort of just there and that's not a good spot to be and you'd almost rather and maybe this is what she wanted to do like oh i'll team up with shemia i've got issues of portia i've got issues with everybody else i'm going to go after them and it's like okay then do it but you're not really doing it you're just complaining a lot yeah exactly we're not seeing any action we're seeing a lot of just me i don't like that man, I'm going to go confessional and talk some shit. And don't get me wrong.

Like, it's not like she's backed out in situations. Like she had energy for Porsche over the phone with the flowers and stuff like that. Just nothing is really landing that well. And just kind of more and more of the same thing that we're getting over and over again. And when you have a cast delivering the way that the rest of the cast is, it stands out. And she's standing out in a negative way. Yeah, definitely. Well, let's jump into this episode.

And as we know, we are headed to Dallas. We're doing a little homage to the soap opera. Do you ever watch Dallas? You watched the, they did our remake of it, I think, a few years ago. Yeah, I know they made a remake of it a while ago. Wasn't Billy Bob Fortin in it? I don't know why I think that. I might be mixing that up with a different.

Landman. I think that's Landman. No, I'm thinking even further back than Landman. Well, Landman's current. But either way. I don't know much. I remember my mom watched it and she was excited when the remake came out. And then I think that she kind of dropped it.

Yeah, it was, I mean, great show. You want to go dive back into the archives a little bit. But this trip is having a little Dallas slash dynasty theme. Before we head out there, we're sitting down with Adrian Maloof, who it's her tequila company. She's invited Cynthia into the family. And we're talking about it kind of lays the groundwork for later a little bit because we have Fager questioning Pinky and her finances once again.

Again, we're going to see it play out exactly how I expected it to play out. I didn't think Fager was going to say anything to Pinky's face. This is very Fadra coded right now. She has a lot to say on the side, a lot to say in confessionals. When she's in person, she doesn't really bring it up. I don't actually mind that because she's consistent. Yeah, she's consistent. And also I get the feeling it's almost like a shark kind of waiting in the water.

Like at some point, she's going to jump on the opportunity. I thought tonight, the dinner that they had was going to be a good opportunity to do that. But the way that it played out, I mean, I don't even fault her for not jumping in. Was there a time for her to jump in? No, not necessarily. I mean, that was the most fast-paced argument I've ever seen. But yeah, with Fajar, I expect her to do something. And we'll have something to say if she doesn't.

If she still does the same thing, just goes to her confessional or she has those one-off conversations with everybody else about something and refuses to talk about it with that person, then yeah, we'll have a real conversation about it. But I think she's earned the right to kind of be that person that's hanging out in the background waiting for the opportunity. I agree. So we'll see how it plays out. But we get to the PJ. We're headed down to Dallas. And again, we're reminded it's Kay Michelle's first girl strip. Yeah, I'm Pinkies.

I was getting there. It's also Pinkies, first girl's strip. So we have two that are, and we've seen this in the past. And we've seen it like the same exact scenario. Which show was it where two people had. not go on a girl's trip. It was Potomac, maybe. That sounds right.

No, it was Miami. It was Miami. Because it was Stephanie who had never been on a girl's trip. I don't remember who the other person was, but it was definitely Stephanie. There were a lot of them actually. Now that I'm thinking about it, there were a lot of Housewife shows. I think Potomac had one. I think Salt Lake City had one.

Bronwyn was not on a girl's trip before. So that was adventurous. So anytime that pops up, there's always going to be some issues with the two of them. Now, this was a very different. for the two of them so far at least. I don't know what to think, but like I said in the opening, I'm going to try to figure out how I feel about it. Yeah, well, don't worry because we're going to start the trip off with a prayer,

which anytime we have a prayer, you know the trip's going to go just fine because the Lord's blessing it. So everything's going to be fine, guys. Don't worry. Well, it makes sense, I guess. I mean, yeah, if you believe that heaven is up and you're in a plane, are you going to be any closer? Yeah.

So he's going to hear your prayer. So it's probably got a better chance of reaching him. Unless it gets caught in a jet stream. Yeah. People really liked our science discussion yesterday. I know. I know. They like the,

I will happily discuss science and space anytime. Maybe we should start another podcast, the science pros. I think that's my favorite thing is going to like post the video on YouTube. Every once in a while, like you click there's a side profile and you'll click the wrong thing. Usually you go to your content, but a lot of times I'll just go to like history. And it's just fucking Neil deGrasse Tyson over and over because you're just logged into our YouTube using it for your own stuff.

And I think this is what seals doing. It's always new stuff too. So I'm impressed at that and how much content you're watching. Yeah, it's, uh, him. Charles Lou is my favorite. He's, he's remarkable. Uh, and then Scott Green is awesome. So I kind of cycle through those guys because they're really good at simplifying.

Astrophysics. And I love asking me like I'm in kindergarten. Yeah. Yeah. That's what they kind of do to me. It's nice. I like it. Anyway, back to business.

On the plane ride, bankruptcy's come up. Now, I know Pinky's going through it. I know that she has a business valued at $100 million or something like that. The more that she talks about the bankruptcy and the more that she talks about her own personal finances, the more I question the validity of her personal finance. Yeah, I'm getting that exact same vibe. And I don't like it. And look, I think it's fine. I think it's something that we're going to have to work through. But unfortunately for Pinky, we've had a lot of discussions about her finances. We've had a lot of discussions about what's going on in the press. And it hasn't been in front of the, she, yeah, she brings it up. But like, we've seen a lot of one-on-one conversations between her and her husband. Like her and Derek talking about that. It's like, okay, the rest of the group doesn't know how you feel about this. But if somebody brings something up and you feel differently than you feel differently than you. how you feel now, we're going to know it's bullshit. So you doing this whole like, ah, you know, it's just, let me, let me just throw a lot

of weird phrasing and a lot of different structures out of it. Yeah, I can't do a chapter seven because I've got too many assets. I can't do a chapter 11 because I don't have cash to pay it back. So I got to find myself in that sweet spot. And it's like, okay, all right. You can't do a 13. Yeah, yeah, that was the 13 episode. Now she's kind of honing in on the 11.

But she's talking to Angela about this who has her own thing going on. But she's been incredibly open about it. And I think you can probably follow the money on this one, too. This is just she lost and she had to pay it out. She lost money from it. And it's over. But like the whole thing is done. Like there was a short blurb.

It's not even that big of like, it's definitely not front page news. It's probably like page 10, but it's still out there. And it's obviously out there. And she's been talking about it very openly. So it's not that much of an issue. She just realizes that it was an L and she has to move on. Pinky trying to just kind of confuse the situation like, yeah, I got this going on and this going on and I'm going to figure the whole thing out.

But, you know, it's just regular course of business. Like, that's not the sentiment that you had a couple episodes ago. So don't bullshit us. It gets confusing because when she's talking to Derek, the implication is you don't have the money. That's like the bankruptcy. I understand that you can have money and have assets and still declare bankruptcy. But she's saying that she can't prove that she has the money, which that's when it gets very convoluted because even if you're paying yourself through trusts or L.

or businesses, you could still show a cash flow. Unless you're not taking the salary, but that doesn't make sense because how are you making money? Exactly. So now I'm going to, I don't know, I came away from this whole conversation. Kind of, I think one, I think that Angela probably looked into this afterwards. Like I don't think, and I obviously, you know, we have the discussion all the time and the housewives have the discussion all the time now, which is kind of getting annoying.

But they all understand what's going on in each other's lives. They look each other up on the internet. They Google each other. and they do a deep dive. And if you're in Beverly Hills, that's a cardinal sin. But over here, this is just normal. Yeah, but I think that Angela probably wasn't even really on to Pinky. Like, there was no issue with Pinky until you have this conversation.

And it's so confusing that you're like, I smell bullshit. Let me look into this a little bit more. There's a lot going on. And when she says, I can't show that I'm making money so they're not expecting me to pay it back. I'm like, wait a minute, hold on. Stop. Are you not liquid at all? Like, are you just tied up in assets?

Like, you're going to have to sell something. And that's what she's saying. Yeah. Like the implication is that she's tied up in assets. And that's very plausible. I'm not saying pinkies broke. I'm just saying. I am.

I might be. Allegedly, the more. I don't think that tries to. I don't think so. I never know. I just do it up, you know,

just in case. But yeah, the more she tries to defend, the more questions I have. And I think that's a great point to bring up Angela. Because I do think that Angela declared bankruptcy. I think that was part of the foreclosure thing. Yep.

So it's a great. example of if you get ahead of things, if you're genuine and just kind of put it out there, it is what it is. None of us are sitting here going, we need to look into the foreclosures more. Like, I don't know if Angela's telling the truth. We're all like she ate two million dollars. She had house foreclosed on declared bankruptcy. Big L.

She's honest about it. We're not going to dig. Pinky chapter 7, 11, 13, 25, 16. I don't know what to do, but I have money. I promise that's the hardest part is she just, I have money. I do have money. You guys keep asking.

I have money. Nobody's asking. It's an argument you don't want to find yourself on either end of. You never want to be the person to say, I have money, because now we're going to question if you actually do have money. And with pinkies, there's a lot more implications because there's people. There's a lot of employees that are claiming that they're not getting paid. There's a lot of lawsuits coming up, and they're saying that you owe back rent on this.

And I actually just saw today while I was looking up some things. I needed to find a good picture, and I always do this. but somebody just said that her ex-CFO just got indicted. And he owes like an $87,000 loan on something. So like there's a lot of puzzle pieces here. And this is what happens when you join a housewife cast, especially one such as Atlanta. They dig into the things that you're going through.

They're not, I can't be bothered to go into that because I've got my own thing going on. They wouldn't know what the hell you're all about. And if there's a lot of things in the press and then you join this show, there's going to be more things in the press because people see you up on this show, grandstanding. and they haven't been paid or they missed a Christmas party, which is very funny,

whatever it might be, they're going to go asking for money and then lawsuits are going to pop up. So it just gets very messy. And what I once thought after like episode two, she's in a position of power, like I'm not worried about her. Now I'm like, shit,

you might be broke. Yeah, that's what it's giving. That's kind of what it's giving. I mean, we'll see, I'm sure we'll get more information the season goes. But this one's interesting because of what's currently going on.

We talked about this last week, the week before. You can keep up with all this stuff in real time. She is nowhere near through the woods yet and more stuff keeps popping up. Now you've got like you said, in this episode, employees are talking. Recently, employees have also raised concerns about non-payment and it keeps on going. So I have way more questions than answers. And the more she brings it up, the more I question it. Yeah, definitely. Now, this Shamiya confessional, I actually thought was kind of funny just because everyone is so normally

talking about bankruptcy. Like it's not that. She's like, wait, whoa. Like, what the fuck's going on? Like, Angela's talking about it. Now Pinky's talking about it. I think so Kelly's talking about it. Are we all going bankrupt?

Like, what the fuck's going on with this group? It is really funny. She's just worried about like whether or not Chick-fil-A still serving breakfast. I thought that was a little funny line. But I also think it's very funny when you look at bankruptcy as a whole. Like, the stigma of bankruptcy 20 years ago was like a death sentence. like, oh my God, you declare bankruptcy.

And now you've got like Michael Scott in the office declaring bankruptcy. But honestly, like, I know people who have declared bankruptcy just to get out of their student loans. Like, it's not that big of a deal anymore. You just do it when you don't feel like paying something back essentially. Yeah, I know. It does indicate that you might not be great at business, especially, let's say, you know, bankrupt in seven companies or something like that. That would imply that you don't know what you're doing. But that's just a hypothetical.

I could be talking about anybody. I could be talking about anybody, okay? K Michelle doesn't have a pre-up with her man. And I like the explanation. He doesn't really want anything. I try to give him money. He doesn't take it. He's also a dentist.

He does pretty well for himself. He doesn't need my money. He doesn't want to be in the spotlight. He doesn't have social media. This guy is one of the greenest flags that we've had as a house husband. I know this is the kiss of death. I know that next episode is going to do something terrible. I'm going to have to eat my words and apologize for ever taking his side.

But for now, in this little time frame that we're in, he is a walking green flag. So I love that. Yeah. I mean, it's just incredibly funny, juxtaposed to the fact that Kay Michelle says,

well, I think every man. So it's a lot harder to figure out if he's cheating on me when he doesn't have social media. I just kind of have to trust him or maybe catch him in the act or whatever it might be.

And don't worry, because Kay Michelle live tweets every episode. So if you ever want to know how she feels about anything, she's going to be live tweeting and she's going to be calling people bitches and she's going to be calling people sluts or whatever it might be. Bimbos. It's just bimbos, like, it doesn't matter.

So if you ever need a temperature check or you see a scene where K. Michelle, you know, is kind of popping off or it doesn't feel the right way or somebody else is talking about her. Just go to her Twitter. She'll let you know how she feels. Yep, it's pretty great, actually. And it's a lot. Like, she chimes in frequently. So if you want, it's kind of fun because you can watch along with K. Michelle, if you some choose.

Yeah. Now we get to Dallas and Cynthia lays out the itinerary, and it sounds far too peaceful. Something's going to go wrong without a doubt. This is what I'm talking about, okay? I like Drew. I, again, here we are. Oh, Black and I are just,

why do we care? Do you care? Do people are listening? Do you care? I don't care that you guys are dating or not or friends or not. Like, why is this every episode we have to check the temperature of Black and Drew?

Just what's going on. You know, you're just going to figure out what's going on to the streets. Oh, this would annoy you normally. I'm annoyed that it's not annoying you. No, honestly, at this point, it's really like in one or out the other. When she starts talking about Black, I know there's no real update. This was more while we're on the bus heading to the place. I think it was a means to an end to get to the point.

I think she had definitely heard from somebody else that Kay Michelle was saying that Black was in her DMs. And then she took it kind of weird when she got on the FaceTime with. them when they went over to Porsche's saying like, oh, hey, Black, I know what she didn't say, but it was very familiar. So I think it was more like, let me kind of stoke it and stoke the fire and see what K. Michelle says, but like there's nothing really there. I honestly think that it's harmless.

And again, you can do the whole song and dance and be like, well, you guys are just friends. Who cares if he's sliding into her DMs? Obviously, Kate Michelle is married. So it's a lot different. But that's like, it's inconsequential. It's not that big of a deal. I think it's just Drew is going to make it somewhat. whatever a big deal and that's why she talks about it.

Otherwise, there's nothing really there. I'm curious about where it's going to go, though, because I do know their friends. Don't worry. They've let us know. But I do think that she's going to be pissed if she finds out he slid into the DMs. That's where I'm curious because it'll also paint a light on, are you friends or are you more than that? Because she's going to have a reaction to it.

I thought it was a weird way to present it where she was like, you guys are friends. and no. And then we get to the interaction at the dinner with the FaceTime and all that. And like you said, it wasn't, hey, I know you. It was, hey, nice to see you, which implies that you know the person at least a little bit. Yeah, and Black said my love back door to her too. I thought that was weird. Colloquial is a movie.

We talked that when we watched it. Yeah. Yeah. Who knows exactly what's going on there. Now, Drew currently, another thing I just saw. today. There's a lot of Atlanta news. Apparently, Ralph is not paying the mortgage. Their house might get foreclosed on.

Yeah, I know. Ralph is denying this and saying that he paid it. There's no receipts or anything that I saw, but it's just very funny that they're still in that situation. This goes to some dumb, dumb in our comments. I think it was YouTube that defended Ralph vehemently. Ralph makes like $800,000 this, that prove it. Because as far as we know,

His finances are sealed, which is strange. He's not paying the mortgage now. And we really don't know what he does. That person, I think they said something about, yeah, he works in like finance or technology does so well. Prove it. I don't see it at all. And now their house is getting foreclosed on, which by the way, I can definitely see

him just not paying. Oh, it struck me as he's being petty and there's something going on. Maybe Drew and Blackwood to the next level and they're their best friends, best friends with benefits or whatever it might be that they want to. label it and Ralph is upset so he stopped paying the mortgage. You're not going to do that under my roof. I'll tell you what. Above my roof.

Well, we get to La Casa de Fay. I don't think she cared for Fager being like, oh, Fay, Fadra. She was like, how this is my house. Come on into my home. That was a little interesting piece of it. The house, yeah. You get trashed. I have a lot to say about it when we get there.

But the house is awesome. It's gorgeous. The main house is gorgeous. The tiny houses they call it, which is not a tiny house. It's just a guest house is also really pretty. The pool house is fine. I had no issue with the pool house either. They're all accommodating lodgings.

I don't think that there's, it's not like when we get a trip and somebody gets the twin bed with the bunk beds and the basement. We've seen much worse, right? I'm not crazy. So what transpires after this? I thought was a little ridiculous even by Housewife standards. Well, I think my big holdup anyway, and like we said in the beginning,

this episode didn't have a whole lot to it. It's because we spent about 15 minutes going over the rooms. We made too big a deal out. It was crazy to me. And look, I love Cynthia. And if anybody's going to host a really great trip and with like usually no hiccups, it's probably going to be Cynthia

because she's not trying to be shady at all. She just wants things to go off without a hitch. I don't know. I just don't get it. Like we're going to show off everything. And then we're going to have this big deliberation about who's staying with who, who's staying in which house. And then we finally get to it.

And it's like, well, yeah, we knew that. As soon as we saw the damn house, half the cast knew. Oh, you're going to stick Shamea and Kelly over there. Of course that's what's going to happen. So why did we spend so much time doing this? I think it was just filler, which, you know, I'm going to complain just because I want more action. But what are you going to do? my big thing anytime we have these scenarios and assuming Cynthia's not being shady I don't think

she was genuinely no why do they put themselves in these positions just go to the house say three two one go go get your room and then you are absolved of any sin I don't know I think of old Roney and all of the issues that happened there with the three two one go where you just kind of sprint around the house and then people try to take rooms that they shouldn't be in I think this might be more like producing. It might be a Bravo thing. Like, all right, you do have to label rooms. We can't have this because all chaos breaks out.

And then it's the entire episode of them just running around yelling at each other for which room is which, which is not that entertaining. But again, if you're going to do a free for all, like that's where I think people got irritated. Because you put them in the pool house. Pinky, I don't even think that she's cool with being in the tiny home. I think that I think she puts on her front with a lot of things. I think she likes to come off as like the cool unbothered. I don't think she wanted to be there because we have a couple of moments where she says little things. I'm like, I don't think you're actually like totally fine with being over there.

But if you're going to free for all in the main house, that's where you're going to piss people off. It's like there aren't assigned rooms. You just assigned us rooms. Then these ladies get the pick of the litter. Yeah, yeah. It was shoddy at best. Yes, that's a good way to put it. But Kelly, Shamia, and Angela are talking.

And this is where you get Kelly. I think she thinks, confessional or not, like she thinks that she's cooking. Like she thinks she is on fire. She's talking about frickin frack or whack, blah, blah, blah. I know Angela's going to run back in Charles shoes and tell them what I said. And she does like a running man like imitation. I don't know. It's just like, I know what you're trying to do.

do, but it's not happening. And it's becoming apparent. Yeah, it's definitely becoming apparent. And it's getting annoying is really just the bottom line. It's getting very annoying. And even Shemia, like, this is where I'm looking at this scene a little differently with Shabia. Like, I expected her to also have a few things to say. But she's finally got to that point.

And she may have been at that point for the last couple episodes, but the whole rum business kind of threw through a loop where she's not getting involved. She's like, I know what's going to happen. I'm not involved. because this is Kelly saying this because we all know Angela's going to go back and bring it up in some way.

I mean, that is one thing. I like Angela a lot, but she does pretty much the same thing every time. She goes and tells somebody in some way, shape or form.

So we know that's going to happen. She Mia knows that's going to happen. She's like, hey, this is Kelly. I'm not saying shit. Now later, when she may,

or when Angela brings it to the group, she does say both of them are talking shit and saying freaking frat, which, you know, whatever, that's going to happen.

But Kelly, yeah, I don't know what her goal is here. Like I know you've got your beef with Portia, but what the fuck does I have to do with you staying in a room? Like, whatever, just grin and bear it or complain so much that it becomes a big issue.

Like, it just one or the other. That's what's happening. Well, I see what you're saying. Like a complaint through the person, not you and Shemia sitting there talking. And their big issue is the fact that the house is kind of dirty,

which, sure, but I think at that point they were nitpicking because they're pissed off about the pool out. So now there's like a little black, mark on the bedspreads. Like, oh, this is stained. The bathroom's a mess. This is disgusting. I can't even stay here.

And Pinky co-siding that, again, for me, is not a selling point because this is Pinky's group. She's gotten along with Kelly. She's gotten along with Shemia. So I will talk more about that when we get to that whole thing. But I don't know. It seemed like it was blown out of proportion, at least in my opinion. It definitely did. And having that. like the shoulder to cry on about the whole thing with Pinky. I don't really understand like you said, yeah,

she's gotten closer with Kelly. She's gotten a little closer with Shamia. But what is that going to do? Like you're in a different house. Who the fuck cares? Like they're adults. Let them do their thing. Don't like,

don't let that resonate with you and be like, oh, I totally understand what you're going through. That's unacceptable. Like somebody had to stay in that house at the end of the day. You guys got the shit end of the stick. Just do it. And again,

if it's not up to, enough. It's Cynthia. Just text her and be like, hey, it's pretty fucking dirty down here. Do you mind if we FaceTime? Then she was like, no, my God, I'm so sorry. Yeah. And she handled it like a pro. And that's exactly, that should have been the end of it. Like, we shouldn't hear any more about it. You shouldn't be afraid to go shower and join the women. Like, you're on a show where you're supposed to be having dinners, especially on a trip and you're not going to go. You're just going to sulk and sit by the pool. Like, I would be stoked. And I know this doesn't always operate the same way when you go to a housewife show. I would be stoked if you and I got stuck in the pool house.

You're kidding me. We're right next to the pool. It's fucking 98 degrees down here in Dallas in the middle of summer. Let's go. I'm completely fine. I'm away from the rest of the group. I get to sleep in and not worry about some asshole busting down my door at like three o'clock in the morning. Great. Yeah, pool house is ideal. Obviously. So just grin and bear it. And if you're going to complain, like I said, don't FaceTime Cynthia and be like, we know it's not you. Like no big deal. and then you're going to hang up the phone and talk all this shit. Pick a lane, please. Too wishy-washy for my liking.

But the ladies start arriving to dinner and we get Pinky sitting with Porsche. Pinky goes in immediately and she's talking about the poolhouse. Kelly and Shamia didn't even change their clothes. They're not coming to dinner. Then we learned that Kay Michelle's also not coming to dinner. Her glam never showed up and she doesn't want to go out there if she's not glammed up. That's not the craziest thing. we've seen that in other housewife shows that that's a step in point go as Lisa Barlow.

But as everyone's arriving, we're getting more information. Angela arrives and Porsche is now taking the stance of, which is so funny because if she was in the pool house, she wouldn't be going to dinner either. But she's like, Cynthia did this for us. You should just come up here and smile. This is the only time of the episode. I didn't side with Kelly and Shemia, but I was like, come on, Porsche. like if you were in that pool house,

it would be World War III, but you're not. So now you're like, come on, can't we get along? From the show's standpoint, I agreed with Portia, but I understand what you're saying.

Like, from the show's standpoint, I'm like, yeah, now I'm with you, Portia, like, we're on a trip.

They better go regardless. Same with Kay and Michelle. Like, I'm sorry, your glam's on here. By the way, she still looks great, even without glam.

But it's like, your clams's not here. We're in the house. We're not going out. Like, I understand if we're going out to a fancy dinner and you don't have your glam there.

Perfectly fine. I mean, pull Lisa Barlow, stay and cry, throw a history fit. But we're going out back. Like, it's not that big of a deal. You're still going to be on camera. The cameras are still following you around. They want your reactions. They want little updates.

Like, it's not that big of a deal. And look, I'm a guy, so I'm sure I'll get called out in the comments. But at the end of the day, you're on a show where you're supposed to show your face and you're supposed to interact with people. This is your first girl's trip and we've got this. Like, come on. Just grin and bear it. Again, the grin and bear it should just be the theme.

That's the theme of the day, apparently. But this is when you start to get Pinky, it's not on the defensive, but there is a little bit of, I don't even know if it's stank. Intention, you want to say? There's a little intention behind what she's saying because she's taking the stance of, look, anybody would feel the same way. The house was dirty. I know you didn't mean it, but it was dirty.

And you can tell she kind of has an agenda here. I don't even know if she knows what that. agenda is necessarily. But the way that she's presenting this information to the group, and you can look at it one of two ways. One, you're at the table in the main house, it's dinner, maybe not the time, or she's sticking up for her friends. So it's more the latter for sure.

But like, I mean, I didn't see Pinky offer her services. Like, hey, come on in. You can shower in my tiny house. I didn't see that at all. So like, there's, there's a line. And I think she, I don't think she, like, ran past the line. I think she just went a little over the line talking about it a little too much because they already had a FaceTime conversation with Cynthia.

They're getting in hand. There's going to be cleaners. I'm assuming cleaners probably that night before they even go to bed. They're probably sitting by the pool while the cleaners are in there doing this. Like that's probably what's happening. So it's not that big of a deal. We've already kind of squashed it. We already are all aware of it.

You're really just regurgitating information that we already know again, now saying it face to face with Cynthia. and it doesn't really concern you. So that's the big issue. And you're talking about it in like a very weird way where you're almost being, like you said, you're being defensive, but nobody's like really ragging on them.

Like they need to get up here right now. Like we've seen that before. Oh, we're going to go down to them and we're going to pull them back up here. Like we're going to make them come to this dinner. They didn't do anything like that. They were just asking questions. And she's like,

well, you know, if Cynthia, like pretty much if Cynthia had done a better job betting the place or putting them in a better room like this wouldn't have happened. That's what I was getting from it. So I'm like, okay, it's a little stanky. Again, it's just over the line.

It's not that much. And if somebody calls her out, somebody calls her out. If they don't, I'm not going to really bother with it. Yeah, I agree. I think we're riding that line pretty close. But we go over to Shemia, K. Michelle, and Kelly. And we do find out a lot going on in Kelly's life. I guess that she had.

This is when I got mad at Kay Michelle because I'm like, oh, so you can go down to the pool house and hang out with the reject on camera and sit down there. You can't go and sit and eat dinner. I don't get it. I'm very confused. I am too. And I'm kind of confused about what happened at this press conference. From what I gathered, her ex held a press conference in which she held up photos of their children,

trying to garner sympathy, trying to manipulate the situation. According to Kelly, this guy doesn't even want to have joint custody. He just wants to be an inconvenience. He wants to make her life harder. His big thing is, I don't want the kids filming on the show. but then you're going to hold up pictures of your kids in a press conference. Yeah. So that sounds like bullshit.

And also the big takeaway for me in this is, is this part of why we're getting a different, Kelly? Should we give her a little bit of grace early on if she's trying to deal with all this shit, plus the Silver Springs and the bankruptcy? Is she still so new to the housewives realm that she is not great at putting on a face yet? No. Okay. I'm not giving her that just because of all of her comments.

Like if she wasn't making the comments and she just wasn't doing a whole lot, I think we could go down that road and we could talk about, you know, is there too much going on in her life that's negative for her to put on a good face and actually show up for the show? But she's going to her confessionals and she has so much to say about everybody in the group. So no, I'm not giving her that grace. Okay.

It's just a question. We're going to take a quick little ad break and then we'll get right back to the rest of episode. Now let's get back to dinner with the cool kids and Pinky. This is where it kind of turned for me. Now I'm like, all right, well, now you're poking and prodding and you're going to get a response because the line of questioning at this juncture, I'm like, we're good, right? Like we've figured this whole thing out. They're going to sulk by the pool. You guys are going to eat dinner. And then we'll figure this whole thing out later. The house will be clean. We can move on and have a trip. But Pinky will not drop it. She's digging deeper. She's like, when I saw the pool house,

I just thought, you know, those two because they were close. But then I was like, hmm, is there more behind this? Is there some shade being thrown here? No. No, I really don't think so. I really don't think so. You have to look at who you're talking to. Like, yes, if Porsche was throwing this trip, Kelly and Shemia, first off,

everybody in the group would know Kelly and Shemir are staying in that pool house right away. We'd be talking about it on the plane. Portia wouldn't be able to keep her mouth shut. Cynthia just did this. And we already kind of got to the bottom of it. Now the questioning is like, all right, really, we're going to question Cynthia of all people in this group to see if it was shady. I know it's your first girl trip and I know you're new on this show and you think that everything shady. No, wrong place, wrong time.

Yeah, I don't think that she had any ill will. I think she just picked you two because your friends. It was like, oh, they can go out there, no big deal. It turns into a huge deal. And as they're going back and forth, now Angela's starting to get a little defensive. Like, what's your agenda here? Like, why are you pushing this so hard? You're bringing a sense of hostility.

We're picking the rooms and you're pointing it kind of at Cynthia. And there was no shade being thrown. Pinky's response, I'm still getting to know you guys. So I don't know. I'm just feeling you out, which actually isn't a bad defense. I thought that was pretty good.

But we try to sidetrack it a little bit. Like Drew's like, hey, Porsche, did you and Kelly talk. And she's like, you know, gives a bunch of bullshit where she's like,

I tried to extend the olive branch with the flowers. And she didn't want to. it's like, oh, yeah, that wasn't shady at all by you not showing up and sending flowers. So we try to derail it with that. And then, and the married man thing comes back up where you said that she slept to the married man. And, of course, like, well, that's true. Period.

I forgot about, one, her past. And two, the comment last season about fucking Charles Oakley. Yeah. She shouldn't be commenting on this. She shouldn't be, but like that's Porsche. Like that's exactly what she does. She always, she's very hypocritical. She's gone into a new realm of hypocrisy that now it's just almost the norm.

So we don't even really question the things that she's done in her past. We just take it for what it is when she talks about things. And we have to just see how it ends up. Now, obviously we're going to get a conversation between Kelly and Porsche before the end of the season. I don't think that's going to go super well. But I think it'll actually get them back to some weird even grounds because that's just typically how the Porsche conversations go.

but I do like that we're sidetracking. Like this, this to me was, I don't really like the way that Angela and, and Pinky are discussing things right now. This, this seems weird. And Cynthia seems a little upset about this whole thing.

She's trying to fix the whole situation. Let's just, let's deviate over here. Drew, uh, what's going on with black? No. Okay.

Fuck. All right. Portia, you and Kelly? Anything? Uh, who said that Pinky eats meat? Yeah.

Look, let's talk about that for a second. And then we get into that. whole thing. And again, it's all the same stuff that we already heard. Pinky is is taking it very seriously. But I will say, and this is what Fager's really good for. In her confessional, she's like, she's worried about the wrong shit. You didn't pay your rent and you're worried about people thinking you ate meat. Like that's not really the most pressing issue in your life right now. I don't know why she's so stuck on that. I think we would have forgotten about it. Now you're

making, it's the same thing with the money. The more you talk about it. about it, the more I think that you eat meat. So now I think you eat meat and you don't have money because you keep talking about it. God, welcome to the real world. All of us who eat meat and don't have money. Hey, you know, Cynthia goes to check on the rejects. Hey, you guys good. I want to let you know.

They're working on getting it cleaned. It should be fine. Like, I'm so sorry that this even happened, but I'm rectifying the issue as soon as I possibly can. I knew this was going to pop up again because we see it. the scenes from next week. But she says it here. She's starting to get irritated because they say they make another dirty comment.

And she's like, ha, there it is again. Ah, there's that word. He said dirty again. Ah, it's getting cleaned. Anyway, you guys, good. Okay, cool. I'm out.

She was towing the line of like about to snap a little bit. And she's like, uh, not, nope, bye. Not doing it. Now let's get to it. the main event, if you will, we get back to dinner and Pinky, he's like, I don't have problems with anybody here. And Angela's like, well, you still seem like you're on ready right now. Like, are you bothered?

Now Pinky takes that as am I bothering you. Are you bothered because of me, Angela? No, I don't even see you as a threat. There's nothing head to toe on you that I'm bothered about, which we just volley right back. Now you're going to the physical appearance. that's giving bothered you seem bothered you seem insecure about back and forth we go yeah this was very good gaslighting by angela that's all i'm going to give her right now because i think pinky was bothered

and i do think that there's more things and this is probably something that didn't really transcend into the tv world like when we're watching because if you're watching and i actually ended up watching this twice because there was so much going on but the first time i'm watching i'm like i don't really think she was like i think angela's just kind of making a problem out of thin air essentially but then the second time i watched i'm really watching pinky and i'm watching all the things that she's saying to cynthia i'm watching all how she's responding and again fager's not really talking but she's talking at fager about the whole neat thing it's like she is bothered she actually is bothered and i bet you while you're sitting there at that table you're like uh god like what's going on with this woman is she

going to pop off at something random or what the hell's happening can somebody please figure it out she's bothered. Angela, please. Yep, she's bothered. She's clearly bothered because an unbothered person probably wouldn't respond that way. They'd be like, no, I'm completely fine. Like, leave me alone. I'm good. Like, let's just eat dinner. If you're unbothered. If you're bothered, you're going to take that as an attack and go right on the defense. That's what she did. At the physical appearance, too. And then it obviously gets to the money thing because she calls Angela a bitch at the end of the set. And she's like, I forget what it was. It wasn't you are a bitch, but she ended it with bitch.

No, it was, these heels are very high, bitch. Yeah, there you go. Yeah. And Angela responds with bitch question mark. Thinky. I'm a bad bitch. Angela, a bad bitch who can't pay her bills.

I was like, ooh, damn. Yes. I can touch 10 people that you owe money to. I got a million dollar business. Yeah, a million dollar bills. Ooh. Mm-hmm. In my mind, Angela's winning.

In my mind, she won this whole thing. Crushing it. Yes. She had different variations of how many people that Pinky has money. She's like, I could throw a rock across the street and hit somebody that you owe money. I'm like, damn. It's like, how much more of this do you have? Like, you just keep going.

A lot. A lot. A lot. A lot. A lot. A lot. I love it. And there was somebody to watch what happens live.

I forget his name. But he was talking about it. He said that Pinky won. that she ate Angela alive. I was like, what were you watching? Because every single thing that Pinky tries to come at her with,

she's got a rebuttal, mind you. I thought Pinky held her own fine. She did. Yeah, she was able to retort and everything. It just didn't land that. She was on the defensive.

And you could tell, Angela had the upper hand. She wasn't getting loud. She had a shit-eaten grin on her face the whole time, just kind of smirking and poking a little bit more. The one thing that Pinky could try to get on her is the foreclosure. closure thing, but she, she, she, B rabbit from eight milder because she's already talked about all that. Everybody knows all that shit. Yeah. That's, and I think that's the big thing is Pinky was never

going to win this unless it was a hugely disappointing performance from Angela. If it was a terrible performance and she was stuttering and didn't know what to say, then yeah, Pinky could easily win. Where we are with the information right now, and there's two layers to this, we know exactly what's going on with Angela. Like you said, she's gotten ahead of it. So now anything you say to her, it's like, I've already said that. Everybody already knows about that. This is a news when I'm talking about your lawsuits that are still pending that you haven't really addressed with the group and your bankruptcy, which you very weirdly talked around

on the plane, that's a problem because you're still not defending it. And again, when you go into that second layer, Angela's bringing up all pertinent information and she's using it in an insulting way to try to get it pinky. Pinky immediately goes physical, physical, menopause, physical. That's what she does. She tries in the foreclosure thing. horn and in there. Nope, doesn't work. I'm going right back to the physical. That's the key of somebody who's losing an argument. So whoever it was on Watch Robbins Live that said the

Pinky One is completely and utterly wrong. Yeah. Like when she goes for the veneers and that that's why Angela was masterful. Oh, Angela's response was crazy. My God, she's like, and I owe you new veneers and she's, don't do it, Papa Smurf, Mr. Tweed. Not with those people. Commingling. You have incestuous teeth. Don't do that. Yeah. Yeah, that was a tough one. Oh, that was a really tough one. You were just,

you were where she's at. You went physical. She hit it right back at you and she landed much better. Yeah, much, much better. And like, Pinky just, you can tell. And again, this is the marquee version of somebody losing when she stands up and she's like, you can kiss my ass. And I love Phajors a little drop it.

Like somebody tells me to kiss their ass. I want a nice rump roast, not something flat. Not a flat steak. Donkey Booty Fager over there. But it's just so funny when they say like the way that they go back and forth, I'm like, I am so supremely entertained right now. This is unbelievable.

Pinky gets up and this is, it's over. She's done. She won. Angela won. Pinky's walking away. This is going to be a nightmare. People are going to go after Pinky and nope.

Oh, were you getting up to leave? I'm not getting up to leave. What are you talking about? I'm sitting right back down. She gave her, you know, let me tell you something. Let me tell you something. like, oh shit, here we go. John Barrettel.

Yeah, Drew clocks it. She's like, ah, once you stand up, I don't know what you're trying to do, but you're not doing it. You can't put it in reverse. No, but the best part about this, because then we get to like the husbands, you're your husband doesn't even like you. And it's like, yeah, well, let's talk about the living wife in your basement. Yeah. What?

Yeah, what's going on there? I don't know. What's that about? I don't know. but here we go again with a with a Kelly confessional we don't need. You should probably be quiet. I bet that you also have a live in wife in your basement. Yeah.

What? What? I don't know. You can't just like throw that back. That doesn't make any sense. No. You're trying to say that Charles doesn't like her. We know.

But that you just regurgitated. Like that's not good. We got to be better than that. Yeah. I just looked it up too, just to try to see. the fuck's going on. Pinky wrote a novel called A Wife in the Basement.

Oh, that's why. I don't know why she would do that. Oh, that's about it. But I guess a day ago, Pinky released something on Instagram discussing what wife in the basement is, the novel that she wrote. But I guess the chatter is more that yeah Carlos King had on his podcast he mentioned that there's rumors of a woman living in Pinky's basement allegedly he's heard things but he didn't confirm so so maybe she

maybe she wrote that novel about some some real life things going on there well that's that's that's interesting that's very interesting yeah what I will say is what I heard we're just two broke bitches sitting in a tree I was like wait a minute are we going to to have resolve here? Wouldn't you know it? I don't want to argue with you. I love you. Great.

And the best part is we then reel it back in to where we started. And she's like, look, just to go back. Like, it's just your tone. I'm not saying you're bothered by me, but you're telling sound a little bother. Like we get to the root of what we wanted to talk about. Nobody's bothered by the whole thing. Now we look at Kay Michelle, who's grumpy and won't sit down because she didn't get glam and she leaves i i think she won't sit down because she just had surgery like a week ago

she's probably uncomfortable from sitting down on the plane or whatever it may have been so like i'm giving her a pass on that one but i like how everybody just kind of turns their attention they're like oh we're good everybody done we got resolve i love resolve cool we had a great back and forth now a little resolve that's fun what else can we pick at okay what are you doing you didn't get clams so you can't sit at the fucking table. What's going? I'm out of here, guys.

All right. And that's dinner. And that's it. Like, I, you can't ask for a better dinner scene because that was such a phenomenal back and forth. And then we end it in a place like,

this is going to come back up. I know it is. Like we're going to get a little bit deeper into it. I imagine we're going to get a one on one with Pinky and Angela. And Angela doesn't like to drag things out. So I don't think it's going to be this big thing. But this was absolutely perfect. Give us the back and forth and then let's move the fuck on.

Yep, absolutely. Yeah, I'm really excited. That was honestly one of the best, like, last 10 minutes of an episode I've ever seen. It was so good. 15. Oh, here we go. Let's get into some questions. It seems we have a lingering question from last week from Jay Bay, the Hut 713.

There is a plant-based bacon. We used to make vegan BLT at my job, but the demand for it was high. I think there should be another question here. No, it's not. So yeah, there is a plant base bacon. How about that? Very interesting. Yeah, from Mike Bastaglia, not a question, but this whole dirty room scenario feels like Potomac

Colorado trip part too. Nothing will be as bad as that. Nothing will be as bad. No, ever. Yeah, Lolligagger 926. Thoughts on K-Michel dot coming to dinner because of no glam. It made me flip-flop a bit. I don't think we need to flip-flop.

it was an issue especially considering again like you're on camera regardless so it doesn't make a whole lot of sense but I don't want to flip too quickly here she's been pretty great up until no no and again like it's sort of what I said at the end of the episode we don't really know how she's feeling I mean she what like two episodes ago she just got out of surgery

so she might actually be kind of fucking tired after that trip down to Dallas sure Charles 96. If you haven't talked about it, all the shade K. Michelle gets when Lisa Barlow did the same thing. Yes. Yeah, I'm assuming you're...

We gave Lisa Barlow so much shade for that. Like, in that Palm Springs trip where she refused to dress and drag because her gland doesn't know how to do that and she wants to look good. And then the, I think it was the same trip when she couldn't get glam and she was freaking out. We made fun of her. Yeah.

I don't think they're saying we didn't. I think just in general, the ladies were giving Kay Michelle. shade. Oh, okay. Yeah, I think it was in regards. I took it as like the masses were giving Kay Michelle shade and no one like on the

podcasts were. Oh, perhaps. We are. And what I will say is you know, just just listen to us. Yeah. Yeah. Let's save that for the end. Actually, yeah, the other question was just like

who do we think won the duel from Cynthia Hatami? Angela. Definitely. Yeah. Hands down. All right. This is just,

this is just going to be tough. So I put it at the end for me. I saw it. Can you power rank all of the shows you're covering? This is going to be fucking brutal. I actually saw a TikTok today while I was at work. And it was all, it was seven shows on now.

You know, we don't cover below deck, but that, this season of below deck is incredible too. So we'll leave that out. So we'll give you, Summerhouse, Soho, Beverly Hills.

We already know we're, that one's going Atlanta, Rhode Island and the valley. So we've got six shows to power rank. Now, obviously, we can start at the bottom. Beverly Hills is already there. Valley's right behind it.

Yeah, valleys right behind it. This is where it's up. Summerhouse is tough. Summerhouse is not number one. And I saw a lot of people putting Summer House number one. That is not our most fun show to cover because there's just, there's so much information.

currently there's so much that you're digging into in the show we're going to get into that actually right after this episode so um i'm not i'm going to put i'm going to put uh summerhouse of three summer house atlanta rhode island uh uh yeah yeah i'll put actually summerhouse would be a four at that regard oh really yeah island's number one for me i summer house is better i i think summer house is is better than atlanta i'm going to put atlanta four i guess this is fucking brutal Summerhouse three. What's two?

Soho, two. Soho, fuck, I forgot Soho. Yeah. Soho, two. Soho's probably, uh, this is brutal. Rhode Island is number one. I can tell you what. Rhode Island is absolutely number one.

I'll give you mine straight through. Rhode Island number one. Number two, I'm going to go with Soho, number three, Atlanta, four summer house, five, the valley, six Beverly Hills. But that middle group is very, very interchangeable. Yeah. It kind of depends on what you watch these shows for, you know? Yeah.

If you like the dark drama on Summer House, then you probably loving it. Yeah, I'm with you. Anyways, this show, just what a great start to the season. Much needed after last year. These ladies are killing it. I'm very curious where the season's going to go. I don't really have a roadmap yet, and I like that. But that's all I got.

You got anything else? Nope. No, that's our show. Brad, bro, bro. out of here