Bros & Shows - Pirate Party Ahoy! Craig and Kyle Avoid! Paige is Annoyed! (Summer House Full Recap)

Episode Date: March 21, 2025

What's up Bros? Its safe to say that summer is really starting to heat up. Carl is gassed up and ready for the weekend. He has a lady friend coming to the pirate party. Craig is headed up to the Hamptons for the weekend with a lot of unfinished business with Kyle. Lexi isn't at the house for the weekend giving Jesse some solo time. Amanda shares where she's at mentally, and it's great to hear that she's in a good place at the moment. She also shares some insight into her upcoming swimsuit line. Kyle attempts to have the conversation with Craig after Jesse brings it up at the dinner table, but Craig wants to wait a day and have the convo on HIS terms. The whole things is so overblown at this point they just need to quit being babies and hash it out. Paige shares some frustrations she's been having with Craig, further pointing to the countless cracks in their foundation. Craig and Paige sit down to talk in a boat, and she makes it apparent that she is questioning Craig's support for her and her success. We obviously know how this story ends, but the more and more we get from it, the more obvious it becomes that this was not only inevitable... but probably could've happened a long time ago. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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none of you are safe. New episodes every Wednesday, wherever you get your podcasts. But I will say Summer House is unmatched when it comes to having serious conversations in just hilarious costumes. Last year we had, and I know Sierra always goes all out for these things, we had her breaking down something with Paige and with West and everything. We get Paige and Craig dressed as pirates having a serious conversation. This is great. This is what Summer's all about.

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I thought this was a good episode. I thought, I think this whole season overall is off to a pretty solid start. There's been some things that I was concerned about wearing thin or bugging me at some point. Right. Mainly Jesse Lexi. But somehow we've navigated this. Maybe that's why we avoided the, like, the, like, uh, that's the only. That's the only downfall right now

And even that's not really a downfall Because we know looking forward That shit's going to pop off And it's going to be pretty funny Because nobody that's watching this Is invested in their relationship Yeah, you may have looked at it Originally and said, oh wow, that's a cute couple

But past that Everybody had the same reaction Too fast, too soon, don't ruin the show I don't want to watch this anymore You guys got to figure this shit out We know that things are going to pop off That's the only pitfall Everything else is great

We had a lot of worries going into this house this summer, and they have somehow navigated and figured a lot of stuff out within five episodes. I think this is the sixth episode. So now we're sitting here. There's new issues. There's issues with people outside the house with Craig and Kyle. We've got Craig and Page, which we knew was coming. There's so much going on here that they're able to keep it fresh. It's all new information. It's all new stuff. So it's good and it's a fun watch. I agree. I think what Summer House does so well when it's good versus other shows because you have so many different people,

personalities, they all have different jobs. It's not like Housewives where that is their job. When they have conflict, it tends to be very genuine. We don't get a lot of... What? You're saying that Housewives, that's their only job? There are a lot of thriving businesses

in the Housewives world. And I introduce you to a few. Derreet has a couple of failed businesses. It doesn't really count towards her. Sutton no longer has a brick. mortar store i'm just talking about beverly hills there's so many artists who you didn't even shout out chamea she's got a new single what are we doing i call that the job dude i i didn't say it's their only job that's exactly what you said no i didn't i said that's their job whereas this they all

there are plenty before i get fucking railroaded by that comment there are plenty of very very successful housewives. I'm not shit. I can hear the comments. I mean, that's their only job. So like, of course, I didn't say only. Did I say only? This is what I'm glad we have a chat. Did I say their only job? Or did I say their job? Verbatim.

No, I didn't. Now you're just like semantics. You're just gaslighting me because you're an asshole. No, they a lot of how, here I am defending myself. Thanks, dude. There's a lot of very successful housewives outside of the show. I think that speaks for itself. I'm not saying that. I'm saying because the cameras follow them around for like six months at a time and that is their day to day job during the season, whereas summer house, it's weekends primarily. And in the week, they do their job. I'm saying

they have much more separate lives than that of the housewives. Okay. That's better. Yeah. Yeah. Ah, God damn it. Just discouraging housewives everywhere. Can somebody in the comments let me know if I said only or if i said keep an eye we'll keep an eye out for the comments we can let us know let us know let's get if you're ready i dude i trying to stay composed here here we go let's get into this episode we start out with page craig and gabby headed up to the summer house obviously we know there is an underlying issue here between craig and kyle because of the Brits versus lover boy fiasco. They have a lot that they need to talk about.

This has been teased pretty much the entire season. We've been waiting for this conversation. We've been waiting for this since shit popped off and watch what happens live. Let's be real. So I was curious about what their demeanor would be like before the conversation happened, because I always think that kind of tells you where they're coming in from. Greg's pissed. And for me, like right out of the gate, I didn't get a vibe from him that he's looking to reconcile

here. I think that he more wants to say his peace. And it's just funny when he's talking about it. He's like, you know, it should be an issue. Like, Kylie and Kendall are competitors. It's like... Yeah. Sure. Sure. You're also generous. Yeah, that makes sense. My

problem with this, I was actually happy to see that he was pissed, but he's pissed for the wrong reasons. And this is my point with this. He could easily just say, I'm pissed at Kyle because he went off on you. He could have just texted me. Why didn't he just immediately come to me instead of involving you knowing what's going on if you are dating

somebody and him and page have been dating for what three and a half years two and a half years at this point three and a half years you do know what's going on you do know the whole backstory with hannah and kyle and them you know having a full falling out at the summer house why wouldn't that be your first takeaway like fuck dude like anybody i know who's had a girlfriend who's been in a relationship if you have beef with somebody as an outside party and they go to that person you'd be furious keep my girlfriend out of this what are you doing why wouldn't you be mad about that instead he immediately goes to the business aspect and i think it really just comes back to i don't think craig ever thought that he was tight with kyle or cool with kyle he's not really a friend and

we've never really seen them yet along so kyle playing this whole like yeah we're friends we're friends i don't really buy into it but i don't really get what craig's basis is right now he could have won me over very easily by just defending his girlfriend that's all you have to do i agree i think that that would have been a much better approach rather than I think the problem with the spritz versus lover boy is it's it's he said he said we're going based off of you know Kyle presenting evidence versus Craig presenting evidence Kyle's evidence thus far has actually been somewhat solid like I think we talked about that when he was discussing it dinner the other night it's like hmm I can kind I'm being an asshole about it but it's solid a huge dick yeah for sure but like he's making some

decent points that makes me think further into this whole thing it's like Like, ooh, what was the timeline? Did he give you like, hey, just give me a minute. Let me put something together. Did he not? And the way that Kyle is going about it, yes, he's being an asshole. He's making decent points. What really sold it for me is Amanda because she's reiterating certain things.

And I'm like, oh, okay. Like that makes more sense to me. If she was a party to this, Amanda doesn't lie. She has no reason to lie, especially about this because it could impact her friendship with Paige. She's not going to throw shit out there if it's not real. I've been a little confused at Amanda's involvement, too, because I couldn't figure out if she was just staying out of these things. And we saw her speak up last week when him and Paige were talking. She did defend Kyle to Paige while Paige was talking about the whole thing.

So that was a little bit of a different take from Amanda that we usually see. And I tried to figure out, is this just, you know, a new dynamic between Amanda and Kyle? They've been going to couples therapy for, you know, longer than they've been married, honestly, at this point. So maybe they figured something out. It is true. and maybe they figured something out, maybe something clicked, maybe something worked, and they're putting these things into action. Maybe she's staying out of it actively, and that's what we're not seeing.

But I think it could be completely different. It could be that Amanda actually believes and understands and knows that Kyle is telling the truth, and she's staying out of it for pages' sake or for her own sake, and she's only speaking up when it's something that she can actually interject and say, I know this for a fact. So I think that actually might be what it was. Yeah, I think that's a really good point. but we get the boys headed up for the weekend and you know when you get a group of dudes

headed up for a beach weekend you're just going to hal a little bit oh yeah that's just wolf weekend yeah we you know we do it when we play video games on certain weekends certainly it's part of being a dude so i'm glad these guys are psyched i'm glad that carl is ready to rip the bandaid off he's so excited man he's so fired up lindsay's not going to be there i missed Lindsay this weekend, but for Carl's sake, I like to see him a little jazzed up. It got me going. Yeah, I was excited for him. It's also just funny to watch him get like enthusiastic because he's kind of a

Yeah, with guys who were like 10 years younger. Then I'm like, yeah, all right. Yeah, all right. Yeah, all right, yeah, let's wolf it up, right, boys? Yeah. And then, of course, Jesse's like, Alexu says, uh, woof, and they're all like, uh, no, dude. She's not fucking here, bro.

Shut up. That's literally the vibe. So that tells you a lot, I think. like West's reaction to it like the rest of the car not really acknowledging it I think they're all in the same kind of boat here but we get to the house and they're setting up for Amanda's birthday party and look the dogs are here and they walk through the door and I will give Carl more props because Craig's there and he sees the sonogram he's like oh wow you guys got sonogram Carl's like not mine I'm like nice good point point for Carl yeah that was funny that

always good keep it that was a good one. Keep it short I like it Just to the point, really well done. Ha ha ha. But Amanda arrives, and it's nice to hear a little check-in from her mentally, you know, talking about. She's been very open with her struggles throughout the years of depression, anxiety, things like that. So to hear that she's reached this place in her life where she feels good, you know, she wakes up and she's excited for the day, all those good things. So it's nice to hear that she's in a good spot. I'm curious how much of that has to do with the fact that she's somewhat out of the lover boy's shadow.

She's doing her swimsuit thing. She's made her stance known that she doesn't want to. be Kyle's minion. Like that's not her personality. I'm sure that has something to do with it. But it's nice to hear. And then you get here and her line looks good. It looks like it's getting some press too.

So happy for her. I mean, we all knew in that scene that we got last year where page, was it page in Sierra that were in the store with her while she was looking at different things, telling her to just go for it. You know, this is something that you could do. We all had faith in her that she could do it. It's nice to see that she's doing that. And you can tell, I think they found the boundary where you can see.

like yeah she does have something coming up she's got some sort of deadline coming up for sure but she's working on a weekend she's doing this not i didn't see this as she's doing this on summer house to show everybody hey guys i've got a bathing suit line i think she was genuinely doing that because maybe whatever her and kyle talked about she's able to keep lover boy going because i really do think that she's the wheels that turn lover boy especially with the creative department over there but on the weekend she's working on this so she's taking it into her own time her own personal time and I like to see that because you don't see any gripes or anything from Kyle

which is something that really more fit on me last year. Yeah, I agree with that. I agree. But Craig tries to break the ice a little bit. He just looks at Kyle gives him like an awkward, what's up? Just standing in the living room, dude. Yeah, what's up? And he gives him the cold shoulder.

He's like, you're just going to like ignore me. All right. And he walks away. So the tone's already set. Kyle doesn't say hi to him. Craig's coming in with a chip on his shoulder. The issue here, and this is an issue I will say like with,

with dudes in general is like they both feel slighted and the only way forward is like you're going to agree with me no you're going to agree with me if not we're going to keep headbutting each other until somebody freaks out and this has never resolved and that's kind of the tone that's been set like out of the gate but it's a page in a man to talked about later too the exact same thing it extends to the girlfriends like no you have to see my side of this this is the only side that exists like that's how they actually want to argue with each other until one person actually gives or just doesn't care anymore, which at some point, that's, that is how dudes argue at some point, one of the guys just says, yeah, I don't give a shit

anymore, actually, I'm done. Fuck it. You're right. Either I don't care. I'm done with this or we're no longer friends. I'm not talking to you. Yeah. One of the two, nothing in between.

No, we'll see what happens. But Kyle does say it was wrong from the letters emotions. Get the best of them. And, you know, he wants to clear the air with Craig. But again, he feels slighted. Craig feels slighted. So it's a long uphill battle. But you get Kyle and.

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I was like, okay. Because when she questioned the idea, it made him realize, like, I need to go back to the drawing board with this. And he's like, I think he caught himself too. He was like, wait, she can come. She can come too. Yeah. I think he caught himself twice because he did say that.

And I think he also meant it as a snide remark. start off with he's like oh that's not going to play that well let me actually authentically thank her and say it in a very weird way that's going to make it seem like uh it kind of is you know due to lindsay she she she sent him back to the drawing board so he actually really went through with it so thanks lindsay you can come yeah you can come all right cool bring turner and the baby and the bar the baby can go yeah babies love sports ah this is awkward anyway uh Kyle says that he he's more hurt than ever and when he goes into his explanation I'm like okay like I can buy it a

little bit only because like first and foremost I don't think this is that big of a fucking deal I don't think it needs to be dragged out like this so let me get that out of the way when he does say like as an entrepreneur like this business it's more personal because this business is his life like I'll give him that but as far as the extent of which this argument has dragged on between these two, between watch what happens live, between the toast girls taking shots at lover boy on their social media account. Like the levels that this has gone to is pretty nuts.

So I don't think it needed to go that far. Do I blame Sprits for capitalizing on remarketing? No, not at all. That's a smart move. You're going to get a lot of sales from this debacle. Yeah. So I get it.

I just, I think Kyle, while I do lean more towards Kyle as far as this argument goes by bringing more life to this thing he did more damage to himself and lover boy than Craig and Spritz did yeah I agree with that

the only reason that I shade towards agreeing with Kyle in this whole thing which I agree with you I don't think that it really matters I really don't care about if you guys are getting along because of an investment opportunity it in the grand scheme of things it means absolutely nothing to me. I hate the way that Kyle goes about this. This is not more hurtful than anything ever.

Like why? What's what the drama, dude? Like seriously, a guy who you're not really friends with that I would bet that you text once a quarter maybe. And it's usually just something weird. Dude, we're in business. He's an entrepreneur. And also, let me just start off by this.

Any person, and I'm sorry if we've got entrepreneurs in the chat or listening, any person who starts off a sentence by saying as an entrepreneur fuck you big big huge thumbs down like Tesla trucks or something or driving on the road you just give a big thumbs down yep yeah that's what I do to people who say as an entrepreneur no just stop like I do agree with it and this is the problem with Kyle the rest of that sentence I understand but you're making this all about you and it really doesn't have anything to do with you you probably we've heard you know grumblings in the past that there was an opportunity for Craig to invest you shot him down you weren't looking for new investors he moved on let him go that's just business you guys aren't

friends like just leave it at that this isn't so hurtful this isn't a slate on your character Craig just went and invested somewhere else who cares I think because he feel like I understand being upset about it I don't think it needed to go to this length because if it did go down the way that he says it went down I get why he'd feel some type of way I just didn't think it needed to be dragged out to this extent is more my point yeah i don't think he's wrong for if it went down exactly how he's saying it went down like that would piss me off too but this is this has been dragged on for too long at least he at least he acknowledges the fact that i want to figure this out for page and amanda whether he believes that or not's a totally

different story but at least he said it you know because in years past he wouldn't have even said it but yeah it's it's it's he it's so weird because, like, I agree with him. His argument makes more sense to me. But the way he goes about things, he's just such a dick. Like, it's hard to be like, yeah, I agree with Kyle. It's like, yeah, I do. But, like, he's such a baby.

Like, just be a, like, for all of the posturing that he does and all of the, like, what we see a little bit later where, like, he demands that we talk about it now. And it's not because I want to get this out of the way so we can have a fun weekend. It's because you want to control the situation. Oh, I thought it was the opposite. No, it's because, I, Craig is, we'll talk about that in a second. Yeah, let's just wait.

Kyle wants to do all the posturing in the world. He wants to stand up there. He's the big man. He's got a big business. He wants to pull up in a new BMW every fucking summer, which by the way, every one of his BMWs, they look like shit.

I'm sorry. Those BMW cars look like shit. And he gets a new one every summer. And you're renting it. Yeah, they look fucking dumb. That's what he does. He's always trying to be this big tough guy. Just get over it.

A real tough guy would be like, yeah, whatever, dude. It's a fucking business. This is how it works. It's kind of cutthroat. I don't really have time for it. I need to get back to my business. If your business is your life, you're not going to worry about Craig spending 20 grand on some fucking sprits. Who gives a shit? Yeah, I agree. I agree. But we get to Jesse and West

and progress is being made with Sierra, which is good. We want to see the house getting along for the most part. We like a little drama sprinkled in between people. But we want the core group of the house to be vibing because it makes for a more fun summer. People go out. There's no drama between them.

So I like that there's some progress there. Jesse is going to talk to her because he misses their little tripod of going out in the city, stuff like that. They used to have fun together. So he's stuck in the middle, wants those two to figure it out. And you get a West, like, ladies update. And he's like, yeah, you know, I'm doing my thing. Nothing to report.

Having fun, being respectful. We're going on two weeks now. I'm on a heater with Sierra. I'm going to keep the vibes going. She almost said hi to me. she almost said hi she thought about it i could see contact like making moves here we're making moves but let's get to the dinner and i just wrote the first thing i wrote was carls a dork i love him to death but yeah he's got great dorky energy it's just funny

top tier it's just incredible when i say dork it isn't it's a term of endearment because it's just you can't help but just kind of smile like his giddiness this weekend is so fun it's funny great and i know that like he's letting things get out of his control because he is genuinely that excited to get into the weekend not have lindsay there not have all that pressure and just cut loose and have a good time and you can tell that he's at a much better point in his life too both with his sobriety and all the things that he's doing in his life he's just genuinely happy and i think the first couple of weeks he's just you know a little haphazardly moving around with lindsay there pregnancy announcement oh oh oh how's this going to go things are going pretty well now

she's not here like everything is working out perfectly for car everything keeps coming up Carl and we like to see that we're coming up Carl baby no it's good it's nice to see him just like kind of weightless just having a good summer without any real responsibilities like without anything weighing on him it's nice i agree but craig and kyle are kind of chit chatting back and forth you know small talk nothing serious which would have been great as far as like oh they might actually make amends here for the show we need jesse Solomon to say you guys are cool now huh i think it wasn't even that he was just pissed because i think he thought that they already had it out and he missed yeah i guess he's like you guys

genuinely like god damn it did we get here too late did you guys already talk what the hell i want to see what happened yeah i liked it i really i'm i'm glad that he did it and you know kyle had texted craig before the weekend it started which i think is a nice move i think that was the right way to do it. Yeah, for sure. Stage a little bit differently. So it's like, hey, we both know what this weekend is. Let's be respectful.

A little pretext. Great. Good job there. And he's like, you know, I want to talk about it. Like, let's chat, figure out this friendship, figure out where we stand. And I agree with Kyle. Do this now. Do it the minute Craig gets there.

Rip the Band-aid off. Figure this stupid thing out. So it's over with one way or another. If you guys don't talk the rest of the weekend, fine. At least you know where you stand. you'll avoid each other if you guys get along great you got somebody else to hang out with over the weekend there is no reason whatsoever to push this to the following day the only reason that craig does that he even says as much it's going to be on my terms it's like all right hard ass like

just talk to the guy figure it the fuck out i get what you're doing because now craig's posturing saying he wronged me i'm not going to go talk to him when he wants to he's going to come talk to when I want him to that's stupid i don't think he believes that though i think that craig is just avoidant i mean we saw it all fucking season and southern charm he doesn't want to deal with these things ever any tough conversation that pops up and we've seen his whole career on southern charm any tough situation that pops up he doesn't want to address it head on he avoids it he tries to push it off he's always just pushing it until the next day the next day the next day the next day and then hopefully it never happens because he never actually wants to address it kyle doing it there

I thought if, and maybe you'll agree with me on this, if Kyle wanted to do it and he wanted to get it out of the way, he would have pulled Craig aside personally one-on-one and said, hey, let's go get this squared away as soon as he walked in. Instead, he waited for the whole dinner table to be sitting down and saying, hey, why don't we go chat about us? He wants to show everybody that he was going to try to do that. I disagree respectfully because I don't think he was going to broach the topic at the table. Jesse Solomon is the one that pushed the needle forward. I agree with that. Then Kyle's going to,

but if I'm in Kyle's shoes and I was planning on having this conversation sooner than later, once somebody brings it up, now we broke the ice of the awkwardness. It's like, yeah, shit, let's just go do this now.

That's the vibe. I did not get a posturing vibe from Kyle. I don't know if it was posturing or just showing everybody else like, hey, maybe it's pushing it on to Craig. Maybe he could catch a vibe that Craig didn't really want to do it. But Kyle was putting it out there like,

hey, guys. I want to do this, so it's not my fault. Or maybe he's doing it for Amanda. This could just be Kyle syndrome with me where everything that he does, I feel like is something for him to be like, hey, everybody look at me, I'm up here. Like, I'm the better person. And I think he does that enough where like I'm not giving him the benefit of the doubt

and looking at this as a normal situation. Because you're right. In a normal situation, I think you're right. Jesse brings it up. That's an ideal time to address it. We'll talk after dinner. Maybe a little like, hey, let's wait until dinner goes through. We can go chat if you want to.

Leave it at that. But I don't know. I just can't tell. I agree with you. And also because of past behaviors, it's understandable that you have that predisposition. Yeah. I do not think that's what this was. I think because the topic was broached, he's like, fuck.

All right, come on. Craig, let's go do this. But the minute Craig showed any kind of like, oh, bro, then I do think he's like, fuck you. We're going to do this now. Then I do think it shifted that way. I don't think it started that way. because here's the thing it's like what statement are you really making by getting up from the table kicking the door open to the backyard and walking in circles by yourself like you know what you're doing you're calling it i know but like now you're making it awkward for amanda you said earlier that you were worried about Amanda and page's friendship then take this on the chin and be like all right dude whatever we'll talk tomorrow and go back to talking to Amanda don't get up from the table because it's only serious it's only serious because you texted page of all people

and blasted her about it. You could have kept it to yourself. You could have texted Craig and said, hey, can we chat about this because I'm really confused? This is, by the way, a breakdown of hell a normal person would have handled this.

Text Craig directly. Hey, I just saw this, really confused, thought you were going to invest with us, free for a chat. Do you want to talk? Do you want to figure this out?

Because I'd like to know where your head's at with all of this because I'm a little confused. Leave it at that. But that's where we don't know if that happened or not. I doubt it did, dude. He would immediately turn to page and just start blasting her about.

her boyfriend and that's what he does that's that's when past behaviors come into play where we see that and he did do that it's not like we're questioning whether or not he actually text the page he blasted page with three full paragraphs so it definitely happened that type of shit again if i'm crag i'm saying you treated my girlfriend poorly i'm not going to give you the benefit of the doubt of having this conversation on your terms or i'm not having the conversation at all because it's not OD which is what he says the page later anyway so I don't know it's it's two people that like I can't wrap my head around because I would never handle a situation like this the way that they did they're handling it on opposite ends of

the spectrum awfully and I just can't figure it out it's very poorly handled and it's like it's funny because both of their intentions are quote unquote to leave other people out of the air yeah and clear the air and not affect other friendships and all they're actively doing is affecting everybody else in the house like well the only thing that i agree with is is kyle saying yeah it's just going to be a quick chat and craig's response as it's not going to be quick like there's no way why dude why because kyle is going to make it long why hold on what do you mean kyle what it's he wants to keep it short no chance no chance in hell i know that you stop one second okay i know that you have kyle syndrome all right i get it

And I'm here for it. And I agree with you 99.9% of the time. I agree with you, 99.9% of the time. Okay. This is not that. Craig is saying, I need to, he literally spelled it out. He's saying, I need more time because this is going to be a long conversation. He literally says, Kyle thinks this is going to be short.

I need this to be long. He wants to drag it out. Carl, Carl, Carl, Carl, is involved now. Carl's involved, yeah. I'm surprised it took that long for you to say Carl. I know, right? Craig wants sufficient time to air out his grievances where it seems to me like Kyle's like,

let's just fucking get this over with. That's the vibe I got from Craig himself speaking about it. So that's where I think you're, I just don't agree. It's okay. I don't think so. The chat, I need the chat to pop in here and tell me,

do you think that Kyle wanted to drag it out or do you think Craig wanted to drag it out? I think in general, I think both of them would end up dragging it out because they wouldn't. degree and neither would give the other an inch. So in in aately, it'll be a long conversation no matter what. So Kyle can think that it can be short. Craig is probably more bright thinking it's going to be longer, but it's going to be because of both of them.

I think Craig wants it to be long. That's what he- I don't think Craig wants to have the conversation at all. Craig was, I don't either. I don't either. But from what he was saying, from what he said, and the chat's agreeing with you. Thanks, guys. Craig wants this to be long.

That's simply what he said. Would it be long regardless? Yes, because they'd both be long-winded. They both wouldn't get a word in, and they both say the same thing, but they'd act like that person did it to me. You did it to me. And neither one of them will talk about the wellness

of their own significant other, which is the best part. I agree, but. Hey, let's let me just made a fucking heavyweight comment, buddy. Buddy. That's great. no i i think that it would be really funny because you know that it's just going to be two dudes

just trying to make sure that they come out as the winner and they will not even talk about any of the other girls what are you just clicking on a comment i can't read it i felt like craig was implying he had a lot of complaints about kyle that's what happened dude i love you to pieces and i agree with you i always agree with you there were other people that said thank you shooter and they were agreeing with me one person said that one person no I see other agreeing. Who? Other agree.

We're not doing this. This is what we get in trouble. Sorry. Sorry to our non-member listeners. I know. Sorry to our non-member listeners. If you want to know what we're talking about, join the members. But yeah, we won't get sidetracked like we did that one time because we got a lot of people mad about it.

Let's get back to the episode. I love you. It's like when you have a disagreement with somebody and like it's one of your friends walking around. And you're like, holy shit, we've got a focus group here. We can end every debate that we've ever had. This is what Steele and I are doing, but we're, in these shows and we have to stop doing it for everybody who's not doing it but we love you all of them yeah we yeah all of you are great let's get back to the brian he just said he agrees with

you or is he saying i rarely agrees with me i thought he was saying that so we're doing it no no he agrees yeah here we go stop it stop it the whole entire place gets awkward because of this whole reaction from kyle and craig they're both at fault honestly but i'm glad that we we hone it in we going out tonight where's the party at yeah we got the the crew going out i will say kyle didn't go out that's good appreciated that but we have the the page and craig conversation before and he says to page i felt like kyle was saying it can be quick if it's going to happen it's on my terms i understand that i wasn't disagree with that i know he said that i'm saying Kyle can say whatever he wants.

It's not going to be a short conversation. I agree. I agree. I never said otherwise. I said that. Oh, fuck you. Keep going. We already basically, in that conversation with our own argument,

we basically talked about Paige and Craig talking about this, too. Yeah, we can just move on. We were just pulling in all fucking evidence from all over the things. Yeah, you're right. You're right. But 2.26 a.m., everyone gets back to the house, little Mac and She's late night.

It's fucking awesome. Imrule doesn't have a lady, so he cleans up instead. That's a great housemate. Two for three. Two for three. He's like, you know what?

I'm not getting lucky tonight. I'm going to clean up this mess. I got you guys. I like that. I did too. Best kind of house guest because if you're going to be out on night and you're going to be drinking, you don't leave it for the people that are going to wake up early.

Because it's always the same people that wake up early. It's always the same people that stay in that night. At the end of the night. No, I'm actually not. That was legitimate. Yeah. Somebody just commented and said,

anybody else thinks that shooter's just winding steel up i was in the beginning of the episode but right now i'm not that was a pure disagreement but still imberl love him still love him he's still in the love meter yeah still great he's on a love heater for sure and you know what it's just nice to have jesse and west back together pushing the beds together just being idiots in the best way i like when they're it's just fun it makes me makes me smile makes me happy but the morning arrives and kyle is all chipper because because he's not hungover and Amanda makes a comment. He's like,

I've been there before. I've been there done before. It's like if she's calling it out, dude, maybe it's a fucking, maybe she's telling you something. That wasn't like, that's got like suck to.

Weirdly enough, I'm like, I kind of get that Kyle where you wake up and like you hear that comment from your wife or girlfriend or something. You're like, fuck, like what are you trying to say? What are you getting out of here?

What are you saying? I don't like this. How are you going to start my day off like that? The response, I've done this before, you don't have to say that. You just kind of laugh it off and move forward with your day. But yeah, that very much sounds like Amanda's like, hey, you're 42. Let's calm down a little bit there, pal. Let's not do this.

This should be your normal wake-up routine, not a rarity. Yeah. Just saying. But you get Paige and Craig in the morning. And, you know, I do agree with this. If he wasn't coming to the Hamptons, I don't think this conversation. would even happen. I don't think these two

would really converse a whole lot anymore. Yeah. Which also is horseshit from Kyle's standpoint just because if you can air out your grievances with his girlfriend,

there can be a conversation with her boyfriend. There's no reason for that in between. That's pretty stupid. But again, you get more of this. I'm going to talk to him

when I want to talk and this conversation's way more serious than he realizes. It's like, uh, no, it's not. It just doesn't have to be. Guess what?

you're invested in spritz now it's done he still owns lover boy it's done again the topic that conversation should be very short why did you invest with spritz instead of me there's an answer to and then there's a longer conversation which is what the fuck is up with your behavior after all of this because we have to talk about watch what happens live where you called me a liar we have to talk about the way that you treated my girlfriend poorly we have to talk about the way that you've been telling everybody that I'm a bad person and I'm a huge liar. All of those things do have to come into play. And yeah,

Kyle probably has some things to say to Craig too. Again, they're not really friends. They've been around each other because their girlfriends are friends. They've been around each other because they both work on Bravo. That's really it. These two would never hang out in the open world ever. The only time that they were housemates was for Winter House

and they fucking hated each other because Craig was a disaster. Yeah. Yeah. So there's, I don't know. I mean, if they want to figure it out for their girls, I get it, but then just say that. Yo, let's be cordial for the sake of the friendship. Like, I just can't see either of them doing that. Craig, because they have to get the point across.

No, they need to be. Craig has had ample opportunities. Even talking to Paige, like, do her a service. Talking to her the night before, I'm still pissed at the way he handled the situation with you. That's what you have to say. Make your girlfriend feel better. And then she'll understand.

Instead, you have Paige going to confessionals. And we're not sure what the, you know, if your relationships in jeopardy by the point that she's doing, confessional. which I think it already is actually live right now because she's referencing in the confessional the dinner Thursday night where his responses because she says you know I'm upset with Craig due to some personal shit in our relationship and avoiding Kyle in this conversation so she's on the team of just fucking do it why are we avoiding this and she's really pissed because he's not recognizing how this is affecting her neither of them and that's what I'm saying it would go a long way if you address that and say hey

I'm mad that he handled this and threw you under the bus in the middle of all of this, at least then Paige could look at that and say, well, he is thinking about me in this situation. It's not just all about him, but instead, both of them, it's all about them. And yeah, Kyle's at least verbalizing and saying things like, I want to make sure that Amanda and Paige are okay, because he listened to Amanda last week. Craig did not listen to Paige last week when Paige was talking about that or the days leading up to it when I'm sure she was texting him about it. So clearly you can tell where they both stand.

I agree. I agree. But this is when you get the quick scene of, I mean, they're setting up the party. Amanda and Gabby are going through some samples of swimsuits because South Moon Under reached out to her about the swimsuit line. So she's trying to gather some evidence. She's trying to find samples that she likes or she can, as she says, Frankenstein, her, what do you call them? Prototype. Her prototype swimsuit. So she's working with Gabby. But that, I mean, it's awesome. Southman Under is a great brand. So like the whole thing just works. I'm excited for her. I think this is going to be fucking massive. And I think this is like this swimsuit line is going to be like a blip on what she actually accomplishes after this. I think this is like the springboard. Yeah, it's a good jumping point. Yeah.

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your podcasts. Yes. Even there. I agree. But you get the gym bros and we're a la Jersey Shore. That was very Jersey Shore. Very Jersey Shore seat. They were all wearing all black. I don't know why. They all decided. In Pan Lodge, UTL, baby. And the July hot is all black. Cabs are here. Gabby. I don't know. I feel like this. I don't feel like when the Uber pulled up, they actually made another reference. Maybe this was like a Jersey Shore, a little offshoot. sure I'm cool with it I'm into it pay homage to to the goats but I don't know how I feel about enlisting Imrule as Carl's wingman I feel like he's too experienced I don't know I think it's gonna scare Jesse he's gonna scare Carl I got scared I got really scared for Jesse later but

yeah it'll definitely scare Carl but Carl needs to be scared a little bit you know what I mean get out of that comfort zone that's what he's what this weekend's all about for Carl he's getting a little weird getting all my nervous energy out we like to see that I think Imrules actually because he's still on the love side of the meter I'm into it I'm good if he shows me anything different I don't have a problem with it I'm more just concerned

about Carl being like oh god what'd you say? Oh dear me you can't see that you had sex with how many women in one night? Oh goodness I think that's exactly what Carl needs I would trust Emerald at this point maybe not later but right now I like Emerald

I love Emerald I think he's great but Jesse's talking about Lexi and of course she made like a behavior self this weekend comment is she is that fair to say because this thing went so fast you don't think so no they're they didn't have sex and he said in the conversation a little bit later until we had or she doesn't have sex than anybody that she's not exclusive which is fair and he's like yeah that's fair and everybody else agrees you guys haven't had sex yet this is probably your last weekend to at least like flirt and be weird and be yourself before your full relationship jesse because they're all assuming i guess at this point that he is going to be full relationship jesse for the rest of the

summer be in with lexie obviously that goes wrong at some point but i do think that it's you know the behavior self this weekend i was like uh back off okay but he's not doing it and the fact that every time that he talks about her talking to him it seems like a cry for help like how did i get here Confessionals, it's like, I really want to give this a shot. I'm like, what is it? I could be. Oh, I got it. It could just be setting it up so that like he doesn't look like a bad guy because he learned from West

last year. I think I got it. I think that he is with Lexi. Maybe not now. During the confessions. Yep. I mean, that's definitely a possibility. I also think that he's smart enough and cognizant enough of how the situation

works out that if you go to confessionals and say the right things, people aren't going to come for you in the comments like they did for west where west all of last year was like yeah i don't know and then he would be with sierra and then he's like oh i love you i want you to come meet my family yeah but he was just trying to have sex with her so what he he learned fair enough fair enough but we're setting up for the party now and sierra and jesse are flirting a lot yes they flirt a lot anyway sierra um i thought this was going a totally different direction and i was like no bro like stop with the bravo dudes but she's like you know if the opportunity presented itself i was

like what i thought she was talking about herself too and then she's like he would like 90% he would say yes i was like thank god like i thought i was so confused it was such weird wording i didn't care for it at all i did not care for it but also i don't really care for jesse's actions i mean yeah you're flirty and like i'm okay with you on the beach like commenting about girls boobs and commenting on Amanda's posts like yeah all that's fine because you're just falling on Sierra Tudy fucking kissed her like five times

on the arm did you not hear that on the neck yeah sure I thought it was arm no regardless dude you're you're both in swimsuits your girl's gonna see this even if you're not exclusive now she's cropping Sierra the picture Sierra didn't invite this on herself you did this to her and you put her in an awkward spot

now she's getting edited out of photos was like tough look tough look jesse solomon you're not doing yourself a whole lot of favors and then for you to have to that be like you know just thinking about lexie like flirting's fun but like nothing too far in a confessional so that's clearly what happened here he got to like two weeks after he's like fuck need to clean up this mess before she sees it like that's that's exactly what happened but we get to the party page and amanda are talking in bed and they say it perfectly just fucking squash it just squash it but they both need to be right and they both need to have the other person agree that they're right it's this whole stupid thing and they're both so emotional

and it's so funny because you know people idiots want to say things like oh women are so emotional it's like no no dudes are the worst no we are idiots and we get way too emotional about things and we get way to invested in stupid shit and we do need we need the validation of whoever we're arguing with to be like, you're right, or we can't fucking drop. We have to have that. We need it. I need that. I've never actually had that, but I need that. I need it. I need it more than anything, but like, Paige and Anna, 100% correct. These two idiots are the emotional ones. Like, dudes are, we're fucking stupidly emotional about dumb fucking things. And that's,

it's so simple. And I wish that they would both listen to them. Listen to your girlfriends and just fucking high five and walk the other way. This has been going on for way too long. Am I excited to see the conversation next week where they're both dressed in pirate garb sitting in a boat getting mad at each other? Absolutely. But this is not that big of a fucking deal. You guys need to high five. If you really care about your girls, just fucking move on from this whole stupid thing. But Paige is upset still with Craig because of the dinner from Thursday. And I'll save some of it for the scene later. But I feel like you're seeing an impasse here. And I feel like a big part of this is the words that Craig decided to.

use where it's like priority are you still going to when he says am i still going to be a priority or am i alluding to that he's not going to be what you're saying is that you're currently not so what you're saying is her current role in her career is making you feel a type of way rather than say hey your career is taking off i'm so proud of you what can i do to help we'll get to our shit down the road yes like the way that he's going about it is so very, I'm petrified that you're leaving me behind. It's very Joe Bradley and Maddie, where Maddie's DJ career is going to take off and Joe's going to be stuck in Charleston.

Sorry that Joe just got astray. I hope he doesn't listen to this. But still, that's what it gives at this point. That's what I'm hearing from Craig is, oh, shit, all of that stuff that I've been dreaming about for years is not going to happen because Paige's career is taking off. Let me just let her know how much I still want this. Like, she knows. She absolutely knows.

And you know what we go so far is if you just support and put your dreams aside for a second because she's living her dream right now. And that's what being in a partnership is about, buddy. That's what you got to do. Especially because here's the thing. She's pretty blunt. We all know where page stands. She doesn't tiptoe around it.

She makes comments all the time. We see him in Southern Charm. We see him on Summer House. Even here, she's like, when I do my tour, I'm going to hate Craig because he's not going to leave you alone. He's going to be looking for validation constantly rather than, hey, how is the show? great love you good night hey i'm gonna fly out and i'm gonna join you for like two or three shows just to hang out

for a little bit and then i'm gonna go back that's probably what you would want that's what she wants but what he would do is like hey i'm coming for two weeks and she's gonna go fuck no go away yeah like the whole thing by the way that is also very joe bradley yeah that would be joe there's a lot of two weeks of pTO i'm actually not going to be working at republic for a month because i'm going on toward does mattie want that no no no and like the whole thing with it. And this, I mean, pretty much leaks right into their conversation at the end. We'll just kind of lump them together is, are Craig's feelings valid? Yes. Are you concerned about where your relationship is going? You're older. You want certain things. Is that valid? It is valid.

In a conversation to say, hey, I want to know where we stand just because your career's taking off. So proud of you, by the way. But I don't know if our values have misaligned at this point. Are we feeling different things? Are we going in different directions? That's the conversation. Not putting something over ahead where it's like, hey, time out. Three years ago, we, we both had like a rough plan of like, this is where we want to go. You're fucking with the plan now. Do you love me anymore? I love you. Do you love me? Tell me you love me. Do you know that I audibly laughed during this conversation? Did you? Do you know why I audibly laughed? Hold on. Let me read through my notes. Nope. It has nothing to do with the speech.

specifics. It is almost to a T, emotionally, the exact same conversations that Austin and Craig had all fucking year. Oh my God. I feel like you're pushing me away. Am I not? Is my friendship not a priority anymore? Because you're just talking about business all the time. And Craig says, my life is way different now that it was five years ago. Page says, my life is way different now that it was five years ago. Craig is sitting there having the same conversation. You think you would at some point find a parallel like holy shit didn't i do this already wasn't i the aggressor in this situation to austin six seven eight weeks ago yeah i probably was wow this makes me feel like crap like i'm not a priority in her like her life anymore or his life anymore it's the same conversation

and he handles it as if he's a lost puppy and austin handled it as if he was a lost puppy and we're not going to get that same conversation that craig and austin had on a beach there's not going to be a page a page and Craig conversation on a beach drunk somewhere where they come back together they're done. That's the difference. You just blew my mind. How funny is that? I was laughing so hard when I realized that film.

It literally is. It's the same convo. It's the same exact thing, dude. It is by far and away to change. It's cool for him to be like my whole life is business, but when your significant other does it, you need validation that you're still a priority.

Yep. Okay. So does Austin. okay like that i that's funny like you would think that he'd be able to be like oh fuck this is how lost himself yeah like a baby okay cool wait uh yeah i get it now that's fucking nuts that's so funny the only other thing that we need to talk about is lil lily lily is it lily sure for the just call her lil lily in probably oh she a rapper is it like little something yes yeah i like that better little lemur This is when I got a little scared with Jesse because Jesse started off that conversation a little like flirty. I thought.

And then stopped and then stopped on a dime and was like, why don't you just stay here tonight, Carl? Why don't you just have her stay here tonight? All right, cool. I'll see you guys later. I'm like, whoa. Oh, I thought he was wingman. He ended up wingman and. I got a little scared at the beginning.

It was very good. I thought it was a good line. I'm just talking about me. I got a little scared. I got a little scared. That's fair. No, I get what you're coming from? But yeah, him would be like, what about tonight?

I was like, ooh, good line. like nice job good drop in there and uh yeah we'll see where that goes it's funny to see carl and i love that he's cognizant he's like yeah i'm rusty yeah i'm fucking awkward there we go i'm like good kick it off and the last thing i want to point out because zoie kudlae points out it's so obvious the page doesn't want to be with him anymore i agree shoot and i have agreed for a while that it's been pretty obvious but what i think we've gotten here is it accelerated just because page would bring things up and the way that Craig would respond to them or all of the feelings that Craig was feeling and just not verbalizing it in the right way. You could tell the page was like,

this is not going to go well. And that was weeks and weeks ago on Southern Char. She gave him an out to convince her that like, oh, no, this is what I want. The way that she was framing things, the way she was speaking up, she was waiting for him to give her reassurance. And every single time that it came to that point, he brought it back to him. himself and saying, but what about me? And again, the feelings are valid, but the way that it was handled was not. That's all she was looking for. She was looking for you to say, hey, go do your thing.

I'll be here when you get back. Yep. And you didn't do that. You said, will you come back to me? Yeah, pretty much. So many words. Yeah, but let's get to some questions from our members. There's a 10 second delay, so we'll just sit here and look pretty until these questions start

rolling. Look pretty, dude. Ready? I was going to check basketball scores, but yeah. I'm doing the constipated What I used to do in school photos Was the constipated smile You remember that?

Oh yeah Oh yeah I never took a serious picture in high school My mom still pissed about it Sure we'll start off with that one From Ryan Stoneman, Shooters, your arm's sore From holding that mic No, I actually, I have a mic stand here

But it's a straight mic stand So it just kind of like sits there I don't like it. I'd rather just have it freely moving around. That's fair. This is a good one from Megan Gieson. Sorry if I mispronounced that. How did Craig not see the breakup coming?

We don't know. We've been talking about it since Southern Charm started. It is way easier to see from the outside looking in, especially when the camera's involved. Yeah, good, but even then, it's still hard to say how he didn't see it coming, just based off of the way these conversations have been going. It just seems so obvious that she's like, who. I think he just put all of his eggs in the page basket and just figured it was endgame. And now that it's not, he had a hard time coming to grips with him. That's all I can pick off.

I mean, that's fair. But again, just the handling of it has been suspect. From Zoe Coo the plate. Did you notice that Craig changed from we to you to say that page couldn't work as much anymore? It was gross. Yeah, I did. And that was probably subconsciously. subconsciously intentional.

Yeah, and like juxtaposing that to, again, the conversation that he had with Austin or anybody else in Charleston talking about how much he works. And yeah, I mean, it ended up being a different situation. But he works really hard and that's what he's doing. So why are you holding it against Paige? It doesn't make any sense. Yeah.

This is a fun one. You've been too hard on Hannah. She had her faults in summer hours, but mature and natural and givvy squad. She also apologized about making the stallion interview. Two things. we've done nothing but give giggly squad props Anna Burner and Paige have turned that into an absolute powerhouse

all the props to them no shade now she shot herself in the foot a lot of people have said racist shit and then said sorry about it that doesn't mean I'm like we're good now that doesn't solve anything but as far as like giving her power yeah like we can not like certain people and also I just don't like a personality yeah yeah and I haven't really talks smack i say every time i didn't see the hannah burner stuff i saw the magna stallion

interview and i've also given her lots of credit so we can agree to disagree it's okay from cc do you guys think west is going to feel some kind of way about jesse flirting so much no i don't think so at all honestly i think it's going to lessen the blow the end of that was with sierra sorry yeah like a gotcha situation like oh cool this is weird i'm not going to give you shit for it because now we're even that's what i kind of assume west will do yeah i don't think that i think he would more so be like i'm exonerated now like yay high five sierra i think he'd give a shit i'll answer you candy uh do you think that candy farto asked you think craig will spiral out to being austin's drinking buddy again i hope not no i don't he seems to have a handle on that stuff yeah i don't go that

like he seems to understand his relationship with alcohol now and we've seen seen the fallout from it like he's still doing all of his his pillow tours and things like he seems like he's okay i think he has a handle on that i think it's going to push him back to his friendship he's going to invest more into his friendship with austin yeah they're going to be able to kind of force away because he's going to have more free time i mean there's going to be a point where he's just working so much to try to not think about the work or the breakup which he probably already did but at some point he's going to need to fill his empty time that he doesn't have page with with friends and family so i think he's going to be in a better position to do it now now

Yeah, but I don't, I don't think he's going to turn to the bottle. Let's see. We'll do one more. I don't see any more in here. Here's one. There you go. Candy once again, will Sierra end up having a friend with Benny's in the future? I hope so.

That'd be fun. You know, nothing too serious. Yeah, but she said on and watched what happens live, and I'm so glad that she did, that she's done with Bravo boys. Yeah. Good. Yeah. Go find some stuff. in the city and bring him to the house and then kick him out or something fun you know but yeah

stay away from the summer house dudes they're fucking idiots love them most of them but yeah but yeah you got anything else dude anybody else any more questions we good to go you guys are going to go watch the southern charm finale it's going to be a good one we're going to get the answers to a lot of this from grace certainly are just wait and there's one more good way I got nothing oh god well cc said that she loves these lives i love them too and i love all of you as well and uh who asked it rachel rachel i hope you're not mad at me about the hannah question we're not mad at you we love you it's a valid question or valid statement but that's just where we stand uh white lotus what do you want us to recap white lotus we'd love to when people listen to

it is the question probably not and also it's like eight episodes in so yeah a little late to the draw there maybe next year but you know what we will start start branching out more so but anyway still did you see my comment and question from earlier well now I want to go look oh that's a good one last one then we're done when will gabby have a storyline I've actually enjoyed I think this is her last year

I don't see her doing a much of anything I like her with the dudes I like her as a person I think she's fine it's just on a show like this she's had what is this her third season you've had time to to grow yeah it's her third season because she came on with Sam and Sam no idea just as for Sam just as for Sam but Gabby's been on here

for three years if she continues to do what she's doing for the rest of the season there's just no reason to keep her that's fair that's fair and last CC please recap Vanderpump Villa we are we are recapping Vanderpump Villa don't you worry I'm so excited I'm so excited I can't

I can't fucking wait Stossi's gonna be on I'm so stoked to then Secret Lives of Mormon Wise season two comes out. We've got a lot of good shit. Wait, wait, wait. Not only does season two of Secret Lives of Mormon Wives come out. Guess who one of the guests is at the villa? It's Mom Talk. Mom Talk is showing up.

Shut the phone. We get a crossover? What better way to promote a new season than to throw them in the villa with Lisa? I can't wait. I'm so excited. I didn't know that was happening. Fuck yeah. That show's so good.

If you haven't watched it yet, Time to catch up, catch up before the next season. But you got anything else? Nope. All right. Well, that's our show. Bro's got to go. Thank you all for coming out.

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