Bros & Shows - PJ’s on the PJ- RHOBH S12E05

Episode Date: June 10, 2022

This week we intro with Katie and Schwartz divorce, new franchise rumors and the Kathy v Rinna drama. Then we dive into Dubai before the main course of some serious Crystal drama on RHOBH! Plus listen... in for details about our guest spot on #NOFILTER with Zack Peter! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:19 Brov Bros. Good evening, everybody, and welcome to episode 5 of Brav Bros, your favorite podcast from the Bros for everybody, For whoever wants to listen, I am your co-host, Steele Russell, joined as always by Shooter. Shooter, how are you tonight? Doing great. And I got to say, you did a great job saying your name. I fucking knew that was going to come up.
Starting point is 00:01:42 I knew that you were going to have issues, but you flew through that really nice thing. I almost got stuck, too, because I didn't think about it until right when I said it. And as soon as I started saying, I was like, fuck, I forgot I told everybody about this problem. You could probably do that with any word, though. just like mispronouncing it up front, just thinking too hard about it. Yeah, but not, we don't have to do this again, but now it's your own name. Let's get into the Bravo stuff. Let's get into the Bravo stuff to save me the embarrassment.
Starting point is 00:02:12 We had an exciting week in the brav-brose world in our little sunroom studio. We actually have a really big announcement to make. I would like to let everybody know that we have been invited on to a very, very good very well-known podcast called hashtag no filter with Zach Peter. If you have not listened to it, it's fantastic. He does a great job with the recaps. He does three shows a week. He does a live every week.
Starting point is 00:02:43 He's always spilling like the best tea. The dudes, he's on fire. So he gave us an incredible opportunity to go on his show on June 27th. So if you don't listen to Zach Peter, hashtag no filter with Zach Peter, go on listen now, and in a few weeks you will be able to hear these two idiots on that show. Yeah, and I think the clip that he saw that sold him was us doing our housewife intros. Yeah, the tagline freestyle. Yeah, hold on, because I'm going to let everybody know when I thought of this idea,
Starting point is 00:03:22 I ran it by not only you, but also dev, my wife, and both. of you were less than thrilled about it. You were not enthusiastic. You both gave me weird looks like yeah, no, that's funny. Yeah, it worked out really well. It worked out great. Better than we could have imagined, that's for sure. Way better than I ever thought first, but I knew it was a good idea. I didn't know it would help us get on to like a real Bravo podcast. Well, I think that you didn't know that mine was going to be so good. No, I was going to sell our podcast. That's single-handedly. No, I was blown away by yours, like, to the point where I didn't want to do mine.
Starting point is 00:04:03 That's fine. It worked. Look, it worked. It got somebody else's attention. And we're on the up and up. You guys, you guys that are listening to us now, you're the core listeners. You're the OG bra bros. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:16 Future brab bros will still be braw bros. We'll figure out a better name for you guys. Yeah. Like the brav bro G's all. It's not bad. Not bad. It's already done. There was also an exciting week in the Bravo world as a whole.
Starting point is 00:04:32 We have a lot going on. There's a lot of, after what seemed to be a couple of, like, mellow weeks with other franchises and other shows, we didn't really get to talk about, like, side gossip as much. But this week, we got some shit to talk about. And first and foremost, I want to pour one out, fake pour one out, or really pull one out, if you have a drink in your hand, for Katie. and Schwartz from Vanderpump. Now, Vanderpump is my OG. That is my, that's what I fell in love with to get into Bravo as a whole. Like, that was everything to me.
Starting point is 00:05:12 Do you have your Tom Tom Hat on right now? I do have a Tom Tom hat on right now. And we'll post this clip on so you can see. Yep, there it is. It's my Tom, Tom, Trucker hat. True fan. Yeah, I am a true fan. When they announced Tom Tom, the restaurant, Devin,
Starting point is 00:05:27 I were watching and I saw this hat and I was like, holy shit, like that hat is sick. Like, it's a legitimately decent hat. Yeah. But she actually got it for me. So I love this hat. But Vanderpump, like,
Starting point is 00:05:43 I know those characters. That's one that I feel like I can talk to anybody about. Yeah. And feel comfortable with it. Like, I was there from day one. This was mid-pandemic. And Dev was watching, from the start because she
Starting point is 00:05:59 we ran out of shows to watch so she was like diving back in she started all the way back at the beginning so it had to be like the third or fourth episode I don't know but I finally started to hear the shit that they were saying and you're talking about like
Starting point is 00:06:15 20 somethings working at a restaurant together in fucking West Hollywood like all trying to be actors all trying to model whatever so they're like the prime people to watch not to mention they are so fucking ridiculous each and every one of them that I was transfixed by it and I loved Schwartz I was a big Schwartz guy like through and through
Starting point is 00:06:42 I think he's a decent dude I think like I could hang out with Schwartz and so are you really sad right now no oh no I fucking hate Katie oh so you're happy this is like a joyful no I'm never Look, I have a heart. I'm never joyful if a relationship doesn't work out. Regardless, that's sad. Like, I don't want them to get divorced. No, of course not. But, you know, I'm not, like, devastated.
Starting point is 00:07:15 No. I'm more devastated that things have gone from watching these guys working at Sir all the way to now we're in, like, like real life, they're getting divorced, they're moving out of the house, like, it just, it makes me feel one old, and two, like, I've progressed with these people, like, I've watched this shit happen, and like, it just felt so real that I didn't care for that part. That's fair. Yeah, it's like I would rather watch them doing stupid shit at Sir. than real life stuff.
Starting point is 00:07:57 Yeah, for sure. But the next thing that we have to talk about that happened this week, and we can talk about it quickly because I don't think there's anything here, but there were multiple, like, crossover reports that there's going to be new shows here or there. I think the first one was Paige and Craig were talking about how there could be a spinoff series with them at the middle. And, like, who the hell wants to watch that? I think they were going to call it Summer Charm or some bullshit. Is that official?
Starting point is 00:08:25 I don't know. I could have made it up in my head because it's the dumbest thing I could possibly think of and it makes sense for how I feel about Paige But no, no one's gonna watch that really So who cares They shot it down thankfully
Starting point is 00:08:39 Hopefully it was like They were trying to push it And then everybody said no Well they claim that they didn't say that Yeah well I'm sure Both of them have come out Either in comments on Instagram or Yeah I'm sure it's the same as Craig
Starting point is 00:08:53 Didn't hook up with Kristen Cadillary probably he says that he never did but it's bullshit we know that there was that one and then there were there were a couple other ones and it's just like that combined with bravo kind of slipping out that there could be like three new housewife shows coming out like winnetka one of them no there was one that was uh uh Scottsdale Arizona the real housewives of Scottsdale yeah I mean they already tried with Salt Lake City and like look I mean people might enjoy that show, but it didn't really seem like a great idea. They've got Dubai coming out right now.
Starting point is 00:09:31 Maybe just, you know, let these kind of settle in before you just start rapid firing out all these cities that people are going to actually have to look up. Like, I have no idea where the hell that is. I completely agree. And I... The Real Housewives of Cleveland, Ohio. Cleveland is like a D-List Philadelphia. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:50 So, like, that... Speaking from a sports standpoint here. Oh, I just mean, like, have you seen the people? people from Cleveland? I don't. Troglet. It's... I would 100% watch a real housewives of Cleveland.
Starting point is 00:10:06 I would watch a real housewives of Philly. I would watch a real housewives of Philly to find out where they go and where they frequent. But my point is, at some point, there's got to be too much content. Like, they're already kind of like firing these shows out there. We've got a pretty decent line. up like yeah all right Monday night I think Monday night we've got Atlanta or maybe that's Sunday night I'm not sure Monday night Monday night Atlanta Tuesday night I think is going to end up being Southern Charm Wednesday night we've oh Southern Charms on Friday this year which is
Starting point is 00:10:40 Friday night Friday night interesting choice right I don't know about that maybe it's not doing so well I feel like Friday night time slots like not but I feel like that's what I always Southern Charm always seems to be up there on people's list yeah so I feel like a Tuesday or like people stay in on Tuesday and Wednesday nights to watch. That's why the housewives are on Wednesday night. Is it like a pandemic schedule? Are they like, did they figure something out?
Starting point is 00:11:01 I have no idea. Are less people going out? I don't think so. But I might not know that. Maybe maybe the people that really enjoy Southern Charm getting a little older like ourselves. We enjoy a nice Friday night in. No, no, no.
Starting point is 00:11:13 A long week of work. A lot of shit going on. Maybe I'm golfing at 7 a.m. Saturday morning. What am I going to do at 9 p.m. Friday night? I don't want to go out. I don't want to get banged up. I want to hang out, relax, watch a little Southern Charm. Dude, if that's the fucking reason.
Starting point is 00:11:30 Could be, but, yeah, so there was enough going on there with, I just don't know if all this content's going to work out. Maybe they're just going to quietly push a couple shows aside, fill them in with others, and see what works. So I actually saw a Twitter feed that said, this is not like set in stone. This doesn't even appear to be a real thing. So I guess that they send, like, skeleton crews out to different friend groups that are, like, applying to be housewives.
Starting point is 00:12:00 There's, like, a housewives casting call almost, and it's like... Wow. They have some sort of test run where they go through the motions and, like, try to figure out of, like, this crew is going to be captivated or not. And whether or not they had them in, like, Winnetka or fucking Scottsdale or whatever these fucking places are, Cleveland... um that does not mean they're going to be on the show like if that he said if that was the case then like a hundred different housewives across the u.s could claim that oh we were getting a bravo show uh that makes sense i never really thought about like what goes into like it obviously they have to vet some of them now like Beverly Hills like OC like to an extent a lot of them
Starting point is 00:12:44 are relatively well known yeah they're going to come to you so they yeah they'll come to you and be like all right so you were friends with this person what if we threw it in like two or three others like would you be cool with that or maybe a little drama here whatever that's probably how like the bigger shows started but you know you throw in like i don't know like i said like scottesdale or whoever yeah i guess you kind of do have to send a crew out there and be like let's see your friend group what do you guys normally do is there enough here you know at some point even if they're like running like as much as they possibly could eventually it's going to run out be like right this isn't going to be a good show
Starting point is 00:13:20 You find the Erica Jane of Scottsdale. Yeah. Good luck. I don't think she exists anywhere but Beverly Hills. It's got to be actually a lot harder than we think. I'm sure it is. I'd like to be on that crew. Oh my God, dude.
Starting point is 00:13:32 I'd be down. Absolutely. How do we apply? There's got to be away. Bravo careers. Bravo Careers.com. And then we do a podcast about it. Monster.
Starting point is 00:13:42 Oh, that's. Yeah, we keep our podcast, but then we also do that. It's their day job. Okay. No. Well, now we're doing two podcasts and a day job. Nope. Same podcast.
Starting point is 00:13:54 Quitting our current jobs doing that. Oh, okay. All right. You know what? If they actually let us do that, then yeah, I'll fucking... We'll bring a housewife shirt to Philly. We'll figure out. Oh, Jesus.
Starting point is 00:14:07 We just jumped the gun. Yeah. So we're going... Hold on. Or at least don't go. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on.
Starting point is 00:14:11 So we're going from making a podcast in my sonroom to becoming a skeleton crew for Bravo to go out and vet. Are we vetting them? Are we just filming? Oh, we're vetting them. Yeah. Okay, so now we're vetting housewives. And I guess if we are the vetters, that can't be right.
Starting point is 00:14:34 Nope. Fuck. Definitely not. Well, whatever. If we're the vetters, then I guess we could kind of rig it that we would have housewives of Philly. I would be fucking down for that. It would be like, the best housewives ever. You know, get your fucking ass out of my house.
Starting point is 00:14:54 Sally from Delco. So what do you guys have planned today? Well, we're going down to the birds game. We're going to tailgate. It's 9 a.m. The game's not until 8 p.m. Yeah, what's your... Got to get a good spot.
Starting point is 00:15:05 You got to get a good spot. Yeah, and Tommy's making ribs. He makes the best fucking ribs. You haven't seen my fucking husband on the grill. No, but he's got to start at 6 a.m. So we've got to get down there. Remember going down to shore afterwards? It's pretty real.
Starting point is 00:15:19 I mean, I mean, it would get very real, very quick. Oh, my God. There would be a fight every episode. And another thing we have to touch on that happened this week is there's a bizarre scenario playing out between Kathy Hilton and Lisa Rennah. Oh, yeah. And this imaginary man apparently named Patrick Somers, Patrick Somers, S-O-M-E-R-S. Maybe it's just Summers.
Starting point is 00:15:45 The Summers? It's got to be Patrick Summers, but... So the quick run-through, Rina made a claim that Kathy used a homophobic slur while they were on their girls' trip in Aspen. Fast forward, a man named Patrick Summers comes out of the woodwork and says that he was paid by Kathy Hilton to stir up some drama between her and Rina or something for...
Starting point is 00:16:17 I think it was for Rinnis. storyline for no that was later so this was to draw attention away from what was said um by kathy hilton okay about her um her assistant but then patrick summers comes out and says that no this was a plan concocted by renna and i to stir up a storyline for renna and he even post receipts an alleged conversation on instagram between those two he's He's got pictures of them going back and forth. And then Rina comes back with an Instagram post that says, I don't know who this man is. This is a lie.
Starting point is 00:17:00 None of it's true. And asks Bravo detectives, who are allegedly the best in the business are Bravo fans at getting the dirt, which I 100% believe that that is true. Add us to that list. Yeah, put us on that list. We will be your detectives, Rina. Absolutely. We are enlisted. but she says it's not true,
Starting point is 00:17:20 get to the bottom of it, and I did some more digging and somebody responded to her that said he was a fraud detective for like 16 years and looked into it and like tried to dig through this guy's shit a little bit like his Instagram
Starting point is 00:17:37 like get to his sister's Instagram and like try to find a connection of like who Patrick Summers could be. And it was a dead end. Everything was a dead end. He couldn't find any relation. to anybody he found a fake Instagram that he had made for his sister apparently to prove that he had like a family that turned out to be fake so according to multiple people via Rina's Instagram
Starting point is 00:18:03 mind you so again like who knows but this man didn't exist so none of this shit is true so is Kathy behind it is Rina behind it is Rina vying for a storyline Is Kathy trying to clear her name? Because as of right now, Kathy doesn't have a very good reputation. And understandably so. Anyway, moving on. There's one thing that we have to go back and discuss.
Starting point is 00:18:34 And it was a big miss. And that's last episode. Erica Jane said something very off-putting. Yeah. Yeah. She allegedly claims that... Oh, she, there was nothing alleged. She was claiming us.
Starting point is 00:18:55 She's just flat out claiming it. Maybe I'm saying allegedly said, we don't get sued. Well, we're just reporting what we saw. Yeah, we're just... And as Rinnah said tonight, the Bravo fans are the best detectives around. So we're just doing our due diligence, peeps. Oh, yeah. That's what we're doing.
Starting point is 00:19:12 Rina called upon us. Here we are. Yep. but she said that some of these victims alleged victims may have gotten paid and then are claiming that they didn't get paid to get paid again. Yep. So she has been stressing for a year and a half now, two years, that she can't talk about it. All last season, we just have questions.
Starting point is 00:19:41 We just want to make sure we're cool. We just want to make sure you're okay. I can't talk about it. If I could say anything, I would say it all to you, whatever. She couldn't even talk about, like, how Tom was doing at all. She couldn't comment on a thing. But this year, she's allowed to say, these people might be faking it. These people might, it might be fraud on their end.
Starting point is 00:20:02 They might be claiming that they didn't get paid, but they did, or that they weren't even part of it. And they're just, like, showing it. Like, she was claiming some shit. Is that because it's now civil suits and she's not like... I think civil suits. they can use whatever information they can get their hands on. Oh, no, I understand. But is she getting more liberal because she's not facing jail time?
Starting point is 00:20:22 Maybe, yeah. Like, no, so now she's like, you know, the gloves are off. I wonder how much, like, money she actually has that she can, like, make liquid to pay people, though. Like, in a civil suit. She loses them all. She's going to go bankrupt again. No, I think that's a very real possibility. If they, if this stuff comes out to be true, then, yeah, she's fucked.
Starting point is 00:20:42 I mean, she's already living in a pool house. Now, if it's. playing devil's advocate if we flip it we find out that people were claiming this she can reverse sue then all of a sudden erika jane's back could you imagine if like that's how this shit turns out that'd be wild we go from like she's living in a pool house renting a house every other week or so or that like we go from her fighting this fucking crazy battle tom is pretty much turned into a total vegetable as a result of all of this. Like, I know he was going that way, but this clearly accelerated things. Absolutely. And we come to find out that it was all a farce and they were actually 100% right.
Starting point is 00:21:22 Well, I don't think we'll ever get 100%. I'm just saying there could be like a handful that Yeah, I guess I took it a little far. Yeah, that would that would be nuts. No, my, my theory would be fucking insanity, but even your theory would be one of the craziest twist of it. That's like I'm night Shamelon level. But that'll take us, I guess, into what we're all here for. Why you all listen to us? It's not because of our, I've heard from multiple sources that we have great podcast voices. That's nice.
Starting point is 00:21:59 Yeah, it's a good thing to hear, you know, that we're not sounding annoying. Yeah, because anytime that you hear yourself talk or, well, you hear yourself talk on your own head, but you hear yourself talk on the phone or radio and you're like, who the hell is that? Yeah, no, and I have to cut these together. Yeah, I cut them together. I'm like, oh, that's not flattering. Steele has to listen to himself, say his name, really bothers him. Keeps them up in night.
Starting point is 00:22:23 I fucking hate that this is going to be a thing, though. I shouldn't have said anything. The only reason I even thought of that was like, oh, like, this would be a quirky way to start the show, and I just sound like a fucking idiot. But, so we're diving into Dubai, our new franchise, Rod, And I thought it was kind of a slow episode, but I do appreciate getting to know the characters more. Like, I do like kind of the fluff that goes into it. Like, I like seeing where they come from, trying to figure out who they actually are, you know?
Starting point is 00:22:58 Like, we get some very different takes on different characters from scene to scene. And it's kind of like painting a picture of who we're going to expect this season. Yeah, it's tough because, like, we kind of gauge everything on a level. of was their drama was it fun who argued with who did they do anything cool or say anything ridiculous and it's a lot to expect out of a show in its very second episode we kind of had one of the characters who we just met last episode kind of pushing that narrative immediately and it was entertaining she wasn't kind of pushing it she's she's ready to fight maybe more so than any other housewife has ever done yeah i mean she's very blunt yeah and it's and it's great and it makes for
Starting point is 00:23:40 great TV but we she's like le garret blonde it's kind of tough to like you kind of have to get an idea of who these people are maybe attach some feelings to them who your frontrunner is who you support and then see them get into a fight like that's what it makes it fun if you just sit here and you just watch random people that you don't really know that well fight it's fun but then it wears off and you're like all right this is enough i don't even know what the hell's going on anymore so it's it's better this way even though as you said this was a little bit more of a slower episode just kind of getting to learn everybody so we start in Dubai we're at mommy's lunch is it lunch yeah it was lunch that's where they're doing shots maybe an early dinner I thought it was
Starting point is 00:24:21 mommy's night out it ended up being mommy's night out which was interesting because I learned that there was a one oak in Dubai no one oh it's like a club that there's one in New York there's one in LA one of Dubai there's one in Dubai I'm sure there's probably one in London Cleveland yeah one oak Cleveland that's that's the high clamored for. But yeah, we, yeah, we start off with Lisa and Caroline Brooks at lunch. Nothing really notable happening there except for Brooks apparently doesn't process Parmesan well, or no, rather, cheddar.
Starting point is 00:24:56 Cheddar. She doesn't par with, but that was weird. And Lisa says cheese is cheese. Yeah. Cheese is not cheese. Cheese is definitely not cheese. No, there's so many ends of the spectrum here. Like, you got blue cheese versus like American.
Starting point is 00:25:08 Are you kidding me? Yeah, it was a weird thing. thing to say, but also just a weird moment. The two of them just kind of talking about. It made me uncomfortable. Yeah. I didn't like them picking through the cheese like that. No, I didn't really care for that, but it kind of takes you back to the episode of
Starting point is 00:25:22 Beverly Hills when they were eating fries and the microphones were way too close. And it's like, I don't like people eating. I don't want to hear the meat. I don't want to see the meat. Especially not like a tiny little piece of cheese off of a fork. It was just a weird situation. But yeah, it was mommy's lunch, mommy's night out. And then that was pretty much it for them.
Starting point is 00:25:38 We did get a little bit of a break. down from Nina's dinner last week that kind of exploded with ion just kind of all over the place with Stanberry Brooks and Sarah all over at Stanberry's house and she was talking about how
Starting point is 00:25:54 her and her toy boy surge dude surge needs to get the fuck out of the room I'm so tired of him like he's attached to Stanberry by the hip it's uncomfortable like I don't want to watch him like he doesn't bring anything I've seen
Starting point is 00:26:10 him make three smoothies already oh my god the smoothies right it's enough give it a rest guy like i'm sick of everything that he's doing is fucking annoying and i think that i'm sure if her friends feel the same way they probably walk in like oh great serge is here well it did occur to me so they did have a discussion during this i don't know if it was a lunch or like a breakfast or whatever and they were just meeting and i think they came over to meet the dogs sarah and uh lisa came over to meet the dogs or i think it was sarah and brooks came over to meet the dogs and of course the one dog's biting Yeah, because nobody trains their dogs in these shows. It's crazy.
Starting point is 00:26:44 And they were talking about expats, and that got me thinking the timeline of Stanberry. I wonder if she was going to be deported from Dubai after being divorced. Oh. Because she's not a citizen of Dubai. So she probably had to marry somebody in order to stay. Is Serge a citizen? I don't think he's from Dubai. I think he's a citizen. Oh, fuck.
Starting point is 00:27:06 He might not be originally from there, but I think he's a citizen now. Oh, so you think that she was like getting her. do buy a green card. Yep. Oh, interesting. Green card marriage. What does he get out of it? They have no emotional connection.
Starting point is 00:27:17 No, none whatsoever. Like, it's like watching to like a brother and sister hang out. He gets little dogs peeing in his bed, awkward kisses. Yeah. And then he gets in the hang out with a bunch of women at all times instead of... And unlimited... He probably is in it for unlimited smoothies. That's probably true.
Starting point is 00:27:37 That's the deal. Sweetens the deal. Yeah. You get me my green card. I do buy a green card and you get green smoothies. I'm into that. Fuck, Serge. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:48 Ion and Nina went to lunch and she was offended a couple different times. Nina was talking about Thanksgiving and Ion was talking about how colonists have come through Africa multiple times and it's never been a good thing. Yeah. Like, all right. Yeah, that is like tracing back to the roots of Thanksgiving. Yeah, 100%. And it's a great call. like, yeah, that's a weird thing to celebrate.
Starting point is 00:28:11 Like, yeah, you're fucking right. You are absolutely right. I love it. It's crazy. Great holiday, great food, great time with family. But, yeah, when you really think about it, terrible tradition. Horrible. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:21 Like, horrible. Really bad roots. And she followed it up by Nina at one point said, use the phrase when she was talking about Aion and Stanberry kind of going back and forth at the dinner. She said, you really came in guns blazing. And Aon got so upset at that. She's like, what, you think because I'm Somalian, you can make a reference to guns just because there's a lot of guns in Somalia? And Nina's like, no, it's a phrase.
Starting point is 00:28:48 I didn't actually mean anything by it. If this was Crystal, she'd be like, words mean everything. Oh, no, she would be like words mean everything. And then she would be like, oh, words don't matter. Yeah. Yeah. And then at the lunch, I mean, my favorite thing that was said, and it's one of my favorite lines I think I've heard in a Housewives show is I'm Rion. and your mashed potatoes with no butter
Starting point is 00:29:12 when it comes to her fashion sense which is that's so mean that's like such a good burn especially because we're talking about Thanksgiving so like it's on topic which is even better. Yeah. Whether she meant to do that or not no 100% by accident.
Starting point is 00:29:30 That was a coincidence but like in context and saying that about somebody like when she watches that back she's going to be devastated. Like, oh, I'm mashed potatoes. And then she doubled down and watched what happens live and said, like, yeah, no, she has no passion. And not only that, but all of the audience has no fashion either.
Starting point is 00:29:52 And I need to teach you. Like, she... Ion is a real character. When she was sitting at the table by herself before Nina got there, she was just whispering to herself and she's like, I look fucking hot. Yeah. Two things we need to comment on. One, when Ayan... and Sarah are talking, you know, they're kind of airing some stuff out about their past and
Starting point is 00:30:15 like they're having a really emotional heart to heart and about how they both started business young and like their entrepreneurs. And Sarah's like, yeah, you know, I used to get candy and then I would resell it to my brothers and sisters. Like that's how I got my start. And Ion's like, yeah, I totally get it. Like when I was 10, you know, my father left and my mom was not educated and I realized I had to start working so I'd wake up at 4.30 at the morning and cross a river to get her apples and pineapples and bananas and pretty much being like an adult at the age of 10 and like hiking across rivers in Africa to support her family. Yeah, a lot different than selling candy bars to your siblings. And I'm not saying that Sarah didn't have some
Starting point is 00:30:59 hardships in her upbringing. I don't know about it. But that was that cracked me up just because I on like, oh fuck. Like that's a a backstory like that's some shit like good for you and then sarah selling candy bars and claiming whatever business she started when she's 15 and anytime i hear that i'm just assuming that some teenager like sold some t-shirts or some stupid shit yeah and that might be ignorant of me and it might come out that she like started a software company at 15 and i'll eat my words but until then i'm assuming she sold like her ceramics class work and that was her business yeah You're probably hitting the nail on the head with that one.
Starting point is 00:31:42 Lisa had her dinner, and again, this is actually probably the last thing that we will touch on. Lisa had her Thanksgiving dinner. Oh, my God. And she decided, well, first she went to the grocery store, spent about $1,300 on the grocery store. Interesting little fact about Dubai grocery stores. The pork is in a completely different section. You have to be a non-Muslim in order to even enter the section. And Lisa says, this is my sanctuary.
Starting point is 00:32:08 I love it here. And the first thing she does is, like, say something to some guy from the staff, first name. He knows her. She knows him. Like, all right, you spent a shit ton of time here. That resonated with me. Oh, yeah. I could walk into, yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:21 Well, for sure. But I could also, like, if there was like an all-pork section, like, yeah. Fuck yeah. After dropping $1,300 on dinner. And her son stealing about five cookies, five Oreos. Oh, my man was crushing Oreos. Well, she was face-timing. He crushed a sleeve.
Starting point is 00:32:37 That was great. Love that. fast forward from that they get to the dinner and ion was moved by the support that she received and in response to that she brings her a fucking goat yeah baby goat baby goat is her gift to her oh and her gift to sarah was onions onions so this woman has gifted crazy spectrum of gifts it's fucking banana land like we're talking goat onions onions this is what what I bring to your home. Ooh, maybe Ion gives everybody one gift to make like a stew.
Starting point is 00:33:17 And then they all come together with their gifts and they make goat stew. I don't know. You might be on to something. You can't deny that that might be a thing. Yeah. If you're making a list right now. Onion, goat. If I just saw that list sitting on the ground, I'd think somebody's making a goat stew.
Starting point is 00:33:38 Yeah, or a goat dish, like a goat meal of some sort. So if the next one is a food product, you're right on the money. Oh, my God, if for whatever reason this could come true, like, I would retire from housewives forever because I would be complete. Like, that would be the greatest bit of all time from a housewife. And then that's how she brings the group together. Everyone bring your gifts from me. We're making a fucking family still. That would be awesome.
Starting point is 00:34:05 And then they all just like kumbaya into the next. night and then credits roll and then it just ends forever yeah no more no season two no season two that's it wow that's my dream that's something we'll we'll leave it at that for Dubai I want that to we'll let that we'll let that stew but we'll move on to Beverly Hills and I'll say for once the first time all season thank God the episode didn't begin with Doreet thank the Lord who I saw Garcell's face and I was like what's going on new house her sister no Dorete to be found anywhere she didn't say a word about being afraid of the neighborhood or god anything could trigger this woman at this point they didn't say the fucking word trigger I know it was great yeah it was it was such a breath of fresh air and I'm not saying that obviously in the episode we still talk about it But it didn't start the episode. No, and we got to hear like a sweet story of Garcel and, like, her hard work to get to where she is.
Starting point is 00:35:16 Like, we got a little insight into her and her sister's upbringing and, like, setting up her son so that they can have good memories. And it really, it gives you an idea of, like, what Dorit's all about, at least in her family, which is great. You love to see that. You mean Garcel, but yeah. What did I say, Doree? You said Doreet. You can't get away from it, though. No, I'm trying. No, it's not your fault.
Starting point is 00:35:36 The show is just, like, pounded up. just pounded her into our heads. But after that, we actually are back with Doreet immediately. And she's with Erica. And the first thing she talks about is her hypnotherapy and how she's affected by everything still. And like, so we're, we had a little breath of fresh air. And then immediately we're back to getting triggered. Well, at first you get Doreet walking in and she ordered, what did she order?
Starting point is 00:36:04 Oh, yeah. She got that, she got a glass of wine. and heavy pour, and all I can think about was the Megapint from the Johnny Depp Amber Heard trial. Oh, yeah, put herself a megapoint. Yeah, I wrote in my notes, Dorit with the Megapoint. Well, and not to be outdone, Erica gets herself an Arnie Pommie. Oh, yeah, she gets an Arnie Pommie alert. Arnie Pommie alert.
Starting point is 00:36:30 Who wants an Arnie Pommie. What an interesting, like, it looks like a really nice place. Dorek gets Peter Grisiel. Yeah. Erica, Arnold Palmer, please. Arnie Pah, I get it. That's fine. It's a refreshing dream.
Starting point is 00:36:44 They call it a John Daly when there's fucking it, right? Oh, is that right? I think so. I mean, I think that makes the most sense to me, yeah. Certainly should. But, or I mean, you could put any liquor in and call it the John Fawken Daly. That's true, yeah. Toll Budweiser.
Starting point is 00:36:59 Yeah, tall, cool Budweiser. But they're chatting about, we have a very real... Very real thing this episode, Renna's mom passes away. But they're just, she hasn't passed away yet. They're talking about Lois and Hospice and about the girls' trip that's coming up as well and that they're going to all go down to Mexico and Diana's flying him out on the PJ. Dorit says PJ. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:30 Not private jet. Nope. Nope. It's a PJ. If you ever spend any time on a private jet, you call it a PJ. How do you know that? How many private jets have you been on? Don't ask, don't tell.
Starting point is 00:37:43 Zero. Anyway. One thing I thought was really interesting, though, with the PJ is immediately after they say that, the first thing Erica says, really good to have these friends, like these kinds of friends. Like she wants that Diana D.
Starting point is 00:38:02 Well, and to finish that, she said... I can say that as somebody who no longer has those friends. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. So she's clamoring for somebody. Yeah. We saw this. The early work in the first two episodes, Erica is trying to get into Diana's ass.
Starting point is 00:38:19 But to her credit, all of them are. Yeah, they are. They all kind of like let her talk. They let her do whatever the hell she wants, and they kiss up to her as much as possible. It's very clear like she's Diana fucking Jenkins. Yeah. And everybody fucking knows it.
Starting point is 00:38:35 Yeah. somebody wants to be her biffle yeah but i don't know there's no frontrunner yet but um from there we go we're with kyle and crystal for the most awkward lunch i've ever witnessed like it was painful for me to watch it but i've seen stuff on instagram all week like leading up to it about like them having that chat at lunch and again we're talking about the dark conversation and um kyle is just trying to get her to like understand like if you're going to make these claims you're going to say these words because words fucking matter crystal yep if you're going to make these implications that she said something horrible you have to say what they are you can't be passive aggressive and she refuses to continues to refuse to say what sutton said yeah she will not broach the topic and she even says like i will not repeat what she said well and that's what kyle referred to as gaslight to which Crystal said you really have to be careful
Starting point is 00:39:38 about saying that gaslighting. You are making the biggest deal about fucking words but then turn around and use words that are meant to hurt and meant to create this stigma and like it doesn't make any sense
Starting point is 00:39:56 like she's so wrong and she contradicts herself constantly. Dude, she just wants to be relevant. She wants to like find a way to be important on the show because she's a fucking dud yeah and she's terrible at it like she is like this was such a weird route to take and like she's gone so sideways that i mean we'll we'll get more into it as we get to all of it now but it's just they it's it's hard to watch it happen because like one the show doesn't make any progress we're not
Starting point is 00:40:30 moving forward at all like we're getting no resolve no resolution we're repeating the same conversations over and over again. So I'm like, I'm tired of hearing the conversation if we as an audience are not going to get this answer. Yeah. And they just, like you said, like, we're in different locations. We're going from Mexico to pretty much all over the map in California. And we're just still doing the same shit.
Starting point is 00:40:54 Like, whether it's Doreet dealing with her thing, Crystal now taking spotlight with her made up bullshit, it's all over the place. Every little place that we go to, like we see a new cool area. All right, let's get some more dynamic. Nope, same thing. Same thing. We're going to new spots of the same shit. But from there we go to, um, Diana is going over to Kyle's house.
Starting point is 00:41:17 And she got lost for an hour and a half in Beverly Hills because she said that the car GPS is old. First of all, who uses a car GPS? When's the last time you typed an address? I don't think she drives herself ever. I think this is for the show. I think that was genuine I don't think that she's ever used her car's GPS
Starting point is 00:41:38 No but my point is who the fuck Use your phone GPS Yeah But she probably doesn't know to do that Or apparently doesn't know to do that I don't know if you get lost with your car GPS You wouldn't immediately pull your phone out And be like oh let me waste this shit real quick
Starting point is 00:41:53 Exactly I don't think she ever has to I think she's got people like When she travels she has an entire team go out And prepare the room for her Or maybe she got directly there and just claims that she got lost to keep up to like oh i don't even drive myself like oh first of all diana's Gucci north face was fucking sick no it was awesome that was cool
Starting point is 00:42:17 i like that um but they're talking about uh well kyle's dogs were on the loose again by the way no she locked she at least put them in a different room they were yeah with the food oh she left them with the food there i can't i don't i don't even want to talk about it it gives me Bambi and river just running a muck in the mudroom just train it just train your dogs yeah I don't yeah like train the dog yeah I don't want to do this every week like they keep putting the shit in my face but um Kyle's talking about Paris's wedding you know we get one more night in Paris yeah and then I guess Farah Kyle's daughter got engaged And then I thought it was a weird move that she's like, yeah, I know she went to the wedding, but she didn't want to make a big deal out of it.
Starting point is 00:43:05 I was like, oh, good. That's cool. Good for her. And she's like, so she turned her ring upside down. Yeah, so she just has a huge rock on the inside of her palm. Like, don't, that goes back to a Vanderpump scenario in which Sheena Shea gets engaged to Brock and didn't want to make a thing of it because it was James's engagement party. but she shows Lisa Vanderpump the engagement ring is like in her backpack and then like causes this whole scene and then like actually wore the ring with it flipped down the same way and I was like that's not if you don't want to make a thing about it don't wear the ring just don't wear it it's not like a it's not a wedding ring where you're not supposed to take it off or like it really yeah it means something but like if you just got it that day or you got it the day before like put it back in the case yeah just go out
Starting point is 00:43:55 I get you want to wear it I get you're excited it's actually more day dangerous to wear it inside because what you're going to grab something mistakenly and boop there's diamond you lost the diamond yeah you know what i mean like just take the day i know you're excited but you can wait a day well it was funny because i i knew like when i saw it i noted it and i knew at the same time i was like i know steel's also going to notice this and be like that's fucking dumb yeah it's just the way that i feel like most people are going to be like that's stupid yeah like take your fucking ring off it's not that big a deal but we're moving on from there we got
Starting point is 00:44:28 Sutton back Sutton and Garsell I'm actually I'm not a Sutton fan but I do get excited when she's on the screen because I hope that we're going to get some
Starting point is 00:44:37 some kind of insight into what this fucking dark conversation is what has taken over our lives and we did get like at least a snippet of information with before we even talk about that we have to talk about the way
Starting point is 00:44:53 that she got the drink oh don't I didn't want to too, because it's just like, this is what makes me hate her. Well, it was funny because, like, all right, so two weeks ago, Diana described Sutton to a T. I think you're clumsy, blah, blah, blah, but I think, you know, you're working on yourself. You mean it.
Starting point is 00:45:09 If this wasn't like the clumsiest scene, it made no sense her using the chopsticks. She was so excited. She broke the chopsticks apart. And I'm like, is she, like, going to be a master chopstick person? No. No, she's not. She's using it for leverage to take her ice out of the one cup to this. then put into her kettle one with her grapefruit juice, which I had no issue with the order.
Starting point is 00:45:30 I think that actually sounds great, but the... The presentation of the order was fucking insane. Yeah, it didn't really make the drink. Why on earth would you get... Well, because you want to add it in a little bit of time. No, no. Make sure you get the right balance. If you're at dinner, if you're sitting at a, if you're at the bar, fine.
Starting point is 00:45:49 If you're sitting at a table, like, just get a drink. Get a drink. Don't get... In principle, I agree with you, but I have no issue. issues with that. It's really just the crossing of the straw with the chopsticks, trying to get the blocks of ice from here A to B. She's dropping shit everywhere. And then she was bad. Then she just leaves the chopstick and the straw in the drink. Yeah. Well, like just sticking out of the side. It's just clunky. It's clumsy. It's just Sutton to the fucking Sutton gun of Sutton. But they start
Starting point is 00:46:19 talking about something that she said last week was, I don't know if it's something that would change our dynamic because I think Garcel really likes Sutton and like has a soft spot for her. So I think she's, it's probably like 50, 50, 60 percent her trying to help Sutton because Sutton's not saying anything. Sutton's like, I just want to move forward. I just want to move forward. So part of it is I need to help you because you're not going to help yourself. Even if Sutton knows that she didn't say anything, I think she's still going to like dig her feet in the sand and be like, I didn't, I just want to move forward. I don't want to talk about this. The kind of thing that like you have to clear up. Yeah. Or else people will fill in the blank
Starting point is 00:46:55 themselves and i also think that's why sutton was targeted by crystal because crystal can make up some shit or maybe just exaggerate something that she said well people are going to be like one i could see sutton saying that because she says dumb shit all the time two Sutton's not really going to defend herself she's just going to say i'm mad i'm upset but she's not going to be like crystal what the fuck well and three she has some basis for it because they had an uncomfortable conversation. So now she has a way to kind of use that to point the finger.
Starting point is 00:47:29 Manipulate the situation to make crystal. More was said. More was said. And then we get to what Sutton believes was said that might have been the issue. And she was talking about pretty much like a multicultural hot tub. Like everybody, it was all races welcome in the hot tub. And was it a weird
Starting point is 00:47:48 thing to say? Sure. It was, I understand. what she was saying and no I didn't think it was problematic I thought that the way she said it was kind of weird yeah and we didn't get like a ton of context with how it was brought up like
Starting point is 00:48:04 one I could certainly see Sutton just bringing it up out of the blue which maybe makes Crystal uncomfortable fully get that two it could have been in the middle of a conversation about this like we know that the night before Crystal said
Starting point is 00:48:19 Crystal set up Sutton and said oh I know that you're going to be that girl. So, like, I think it's probably, contextually, it makes a lot of sense that she would be talking about this. Again, I, like you, I didn't have an issue with what she said.
Starting point is 00:48:32 Garcel didn't have an issue with what she said. No, Garcells, she didn't think was problematic. It's definitely some odd phrasing and a weird story. And maybe the story didn't even fucking happen. She just wants to say, I have no problems with other races. I'm not racist. I mean, that's the sole purpose of all of it
Starting point is 00:48:49 is to exonerate her from being labeled a racist. Yeah. And Erica just flat out says it at the table. Like when they get to that dinner. Yeah, I mean, I think that they kind of, they've backed Sutton into a corner, forced her to say what she thinks could have been said, which is a shitty position to be in. Because if you're sitting there and you're like, I didn't say anything, I have no idea.
Starting point is 00:49:12 And they're like, what do you think it could be? And you're like, no idea. Maybe this. I don't know. And it was odd. And it was kind of funny because you see Sutton actually saying it to Crystal in flashback and then her saying it to garcel it was like it was verbatim which means that she's told this story a lot yeah this is not the first time she's used this story in an uncomfortable situation
Starting point is 00:49:34 nothing wrong with the story weird but not racist and nobody cares but it is just crystal you know she's overly sensitive and yeah and like she's playing it up for her own benefit she says the word trigger every franchise on housewives right now use the word triggered like a hundred times an episode yeah like Dubai does it housewire or Beverly Hills does it but let's let's keep this train moving um we have a sweet tribute um we find out that Lois has actually passed Renna's mom has passed and um it's just a sweet little tribute to her some cutscenes with her Renna talking about it was really nice um then we get to the girls trip and ladies are going to Mexico um on the PJ on the PJ so they meet at the airport and I have to ask how much do you
Starting point is 00:50:29 think Diana paid like how much were those clothes that made her look borderline homeless like she she looked she was wearing a gigantic button down like baggy ass sweatpants and like a hat and some shades easily over 50 grand yeah probably like to look we're not even throwing in like jewelry or anything. No, no, no. Like that's separate entirely. It's like the, like Kanye doing the whole Yeezy line. Like it just, you, high fashion sometimes it just looks homeless.
Starting point is 00:51:01 Like Balenciaga. Yeah. And it's just like overly large sweatpants. Yeah. And I just. And that's the look she was going for. But maybe when I look at that, honestly, you brought up, you said that she looked homeless. I thought she looked incredibly comfortable.
Starting point is 00:51:17 No, she looked super comfy. And that's a way to ride. You get in the PJ with some PJs? Oh, yeah. We're feeling it. Fuck, you did it. PJ and the PJs. And they probably cost more than my house.
Starting point is 00:51:32 Yeah. We get the rundown of where they're staying. Diana's team, we highlight them again. They're out there doing their thing, getting her all set up. Oh, yeah. Complaining that the closet wasn't long enough. The closet is not tall enough. Which is actually kind of a bitch because...
Starting point is 00:51:48 Oh, why? Think about it. If it's a really nice. nice resort, especially somewhere in Mexico, women are going to be wearing long dresses. Okay, all right, fair. And I guess this would be a resort where you would assume. Yeah, that dress was hanging, like,
Starting point is 00:52:00 there's a good foot on the ground. And then she asked if they can make this closet taller. Yeah. And she was probably 50% serious. Like, can you make it taller? Ha ha, ha, but like, make it taller. Can you take this pole out and put it a little higher? Like, fucking make it taller, man.
Starting point is 00:52:14 Like, you got 10 minutes. She'll be here in 20. Like, make it fucking taller. but they get split up into vans and there's a very awkward van. We've got Erica, Garcel, Sutton, and Crystal. And it actually, they broke up the awkwardness with a really funny cutscene of, I bet, Dorit speaking Spanish. Yep.
Starting point is 00:52:37 And it cuts to Dorit speaking Spanish and it cuts back to Sutton being like, I bet they're answering in English and it cuts back to Quanto tempo? Like how long? 20 minutes. English. Yeah, it's perfect. It's 20 fucking minutes, lady. Like, sit down.
Starting point is 00:52:53 This is my 15th trip to the airport today. Like, stop it. I can't do this anymore. It is always funny when those things happen because, like, all of us going into we were like, all right, so who's in that car? Because the car rides, the split up for the car rides when they're going places is always key. Yeah, you get the preamble.
Starting point is 00:53:09 And it's funny because, like, all of us are like, oh, man, that's awkward. Like, Erica, Sudd, like, where the hell Sutton going to sit? Next to Crystal, who's spewing bullshit about her. next to Erica who hates her probably next to Garcel and then you get in there and you're like they're all kind of sit together and they're having like fun talking and making fun of the other girls.
Starting point is 00:53:27 Yep. Which is great because they were the other girls were making fun of them calling them the awkward car. So it is nice like every once in a while you get a little surprised. Yeah. And it's a nice wrinkle to throw in there. And you don't, it just goes to show you it doesn't matter how you pair them up. They will go against the other ones. Absolutely. That doesn't matter.
Starting point is 00:53:44 They can team up and they will rip the other ones part. Yep. It doesn't matter. But then they get to dinner. After they get to the resort, Diana's room is fine. Thank the Lord. They get to dinner and... Doreet is ten minutes late.
Starting point is 00:54:03 Which is part of the course, though. Dorete is always late. I have no issue with the tardiness. The first thing that she says when she sits down is that her sweet, her sweet is on the ground floor. And she could hear people outside of her room. And that was triggering.
Starting point is 00:54:23 Thank you very much. That was triggering. And again, I'll say this every episode. I'm not trying to take away from what happened. But we know that it happened. We would probably sympathize more if it was less in our face. Like, let's get into the other storylines. Like, stop going to new places.
Starting point is 00:54:48 Look, ahead of time, Derrit expects things to be perfect. Like, going to Sutton's store, there's paparazzi there. Oh, my God, it's so selfish of Sutton not to tell me that there's paparazzi here. They're going to ask me questions. Then she goes to Mexico. She doesn't think, if she's thinking of these things internally, she doesn't think to call ahead and be like, hey, do you mind if I get more of a private tweet? Or maybe reach out to Rina or Erica or whoever. maybe somebody that you're close to and say, what do you, what do you say? Do you want to get
Starting point is 00:55:21 like a big two bedroom suite so that you're not alone? Like put yourself in a better position if you're doing this and you're getting through this therapy. Like they're giving you the tools to be better and figure it out. Figure it the fuck out. Yeah. And like at the very least call one of the other women in that moment be like, hey, my suite is on the ground level. I'm really uncomfortable with it. Can we switch rooms? Yep. At the very least try that. And then it can be another storyline about how Erica wouldn't switch rooms with Dorit, now they hate each other. It's crazy to think that those are more plausible situations than Derrit just, you know, not talking about it.
Starting point is 00:55:56 Like, hey, you had an issue with people walking around outside of your room, making noise, and it triggered you? Why is it other people's responsibilities? Oh, it's always other things. To make sure that everything is like in line for what she's going through. But she's never just going to keep it to herself and be like, yeah, sorry, I was late. Done. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:14 And they'll be like, whatever, Derrit, you're always late. done over with whatever has to be a reason and the reason is the same shit that it's been for the last six weeks so it's it's i'm okay with it being as minimal as it is now i want it to go away entirely it annoys me but i think we're i think we're almost there i think i think so too and hopefully because she's getting through it and she comes out of it and she's okay but like just taking it center stage every week is getting hard to watch. Yeah. But they order their dinner and I have to comment and it broke my heart. Lisa Rinna gets a fucking filet well done.
Starting point is 00:56:57 I didn't even notice that. Oh, dude. I was like, come on. Oh, man. Like, yeah. It's like a hockey puck. I know. Like, who eats a steak well done? Like, at the most.
Starting point is 00:57:08 Even a filet. I know, right? God. Like, you need a, at most. medium I did one of the ordering things
Starting point is 00:57:16 that I noticed and maybe that's why I didn't notice Renna doing that Garcel getting tequila and then also
Starting point is 00:57:21 getting a corona oh yeah love that yeah great move in Mexico big move in Mexico absolutely
Starting point is 00:57:28 I'm on board for that but after they order fillet well done we get to why
Starting point is 00:57:38 we're all still watching the show and that is to figure out what the fuck was said and they get into the dark conversation and they start like well it starts with rina saying did i miss anything i miss anything and everybody just awkward silence awkward silence awkward silence and something was like well i was busy all week i was busy all week but like she's
Starting point is 00:57:58 kind of trying to be like yeah let's go yeah let's move it along and then we get into it which rinnah definitely knew something happened somebody told her bring it up and we'll kind of do this or like she did she was looking she was fishing no and then crystal says and like it was so insulting and so stupid words are a roarshack oh my god and for those of you that don't know what a roarshack is it's those ink blot tests that like when you go to a psychiatrist that they show up that ink card and what do you see like that's a roarshack test words are a roarshack oh sorry i know these are big words like you're sitting at a table at the very least like these women are educated she's fucking obsessed with words yeah and it's so weird it's the it's so
Starting point is 00:58:47 strange like that's what that's gonna be your pull also rorschach not a word it's a name yeah it's a scientist who developed it oh is that true yeah well can it still be a word now because it's a rorschach well all all names are words we don't have to do that but um but like to even say that sentence is ridiculous like words are a rorschach no they're fucking not and you claim that they're not previously and now you're backpedaling like saying that words have different meanings to different people like that's what saying a word is a rorschach is it's saying that words mean different things to different people and it's like no no like when you say problematic when you say dark you know what you're implying you know what like kind of picture
Starting point is 00:59:33 you're trying to paint and it's it's hard for me to like sit there and just watch this shit and not get to the resolution and that's when we finally get they finally stayed out in the open like this was the conversation like this is what happened it was about a hot tub and like Sutton said this and like she pretty much confirms that like yeah that was it because she was surprised that garcel wasn't offended by it that's not problematic to you and it's like okay so that's confirmation like that's what you had a problem she's like it's so weird because like crystal sometimes she seems like super prepared for what's going to happen and she has an answer for everything and then other times she gets blindsided and she's like all over the place and
Starting point is 01:00:20 she just kind of falls back on her normal which in this case was you're denying my experience oh my god denying my experience and stop denying my experiences like you're uh illegitimizing my feelings yeah and it's like come on like bulldozing my feelings god she's like she's insufferable this point and I at look as bad as she is this has been the storyline for the last couple of weeks it's kind of a breath of fresh air from other things she is solidifying no I think she's solidifying herself as a housewife moving forward maybe not like a main one but at least she's not as close on the outskirts as I disagree and I I I firmly disagree and I read something that said like producers went to her and said before
Starting point is 01:01:10 the season like you got to bring it like you didn't do much last year like we need you to like bring the heat this year and I think that she was like okay I'm gonna bring the fucking heat and I think that she's missing it I think she's missing it and I think it's obvious and I don't think it's sustainable I saw her on watch what happens live afterwards she's a dud she's a dud she's not even fun on that like she's not exciting to watch she's not funny she doesn't make good jokes she doesn't make jokes like she just answers the question like directly like Andy asked the she answers it in like one word it's like okay like ha ha and she said next to ion who's fucking electric who's saying all the right things oh she's great like which makes her look even
Starting point is 01:01:50 worse like she's digging a hole i don't think she comes out of this well i think she's on this show for maybe one more year i think she will um now obviously time will tell the best thing that i heard was diana who is so good at taking digs without taking direct digs at people she almost takes digs it herself but she's just shitting on somebody in the room she goes in my 30s i was so fucking naive crystals 38 like direct hit like smoked her but self deprecating so scot free plus the diana jenkins effect no one's going to call her out they're going to let it fly well it looks like at least with diana we'll get a little bit more maybe next week the week after.
Starting point is 01:02:40 Yeah, she's starting to eat up. And she's starting off with my girl. Yeah, I know. I think Sutton, like, as much as she is and like how great she is in this show without even knowing it, she is like, I don't want to say be too mean about this, but she's too mean to back down, or too mean, she's too dumb to back down. Yeah. Like she doesn't realize what she's saying.
Starting point is 01:03:07 She steps on her own foot so much. And I think when she gets involved with Diana, I don't think she's going to back down to Diana because Diana's... Oh, I don't think so either. I think she's just going to keep fucking rambling and keep saying shit over and over, and Diana's going to be like, what are you? I think she would go toe to toe to toe with Diana just because she doesn't realize who she's going toe to toe to with.
Starting point is 01:03:24 She doesn't care, yeah. No, she really doesn't care. But that takes us back to finish up the episode. Sutton's now fucking livid. Like, she finally got to the point. She finally hit her boiling point, which is like, no. And she even says, I'm fucking pissed. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:39 Like, she's done. And she starts going in and she starts calling out Crystal that she's heard from multiple sources in Hollywood in Beverly Hills that Crystal lies about people. She was warned about her that she would find, or no, then it goes to Renna, sorry. And Renna says, yeah, you know, I heard about this too, but like I didn't want to say anything. But like, I was warned that she will find like the most powerful person in the group. become their best friend and shit on all the other ones and lie about the other ones to get closest to the main like the hbic of the crew yep which was it's i mean essentially what sultan
Starting point is 01:04:20 was doing was fighting fire with fire with crystal making up things and then it kind of seemed like for a second you're like uh sutton baby what are you doing what are you doing and then rina over the top while she didn't do it at the dinner because no rina's not like no she that's not true she mentioned something at the dinner she just didn't get into it okay fair enough she made like a little like yeah i heard something but then it goes to the cut scene but that also goes to my theory last week like rina will jump in on stuff rina will take the bait and be like oh yeah i know that yep like she'll slide in we just i just want to see a little i mean fair enough like her mom did just pass i want to see like a little more action like it would have been good if rina had jumped out right then
Starting point is 01:05:05 and there and i agree i heard the same thing i agree boom That would have been great, because then Sutton would have been like, who the fuck? Like, somebody agreeing with me? But what I thought was a great moment was Erica goes on Sutton's defense. That was interesting. Well, at first she didn't, though. She did say assassinating my character is very similar. Garcel shut that shit down and said, that is not the same and you know it.
Starting point is 01:05:32 Different scenario. Erica agreed, backed off, then came to Sutton's defense. that was really interesting especially i mean that kind of ties up the whole episode but that leads into the cutscene from next week now she's talking to crystal saying she called you a liar honey like she called you a liar she's playing both sides of the ball and now i'm intrigued now we have it might be the same topic that started all of it but it's a different approach now we've got teams yeah now we've got a benedict arnold in the crew that's going back and forth playing both sides like this is fucking fun i'm here for that kind of shit so i'm really pumped to see what happens next and then we also get a clip of diana she's starting to talk some shit she's starting to like heat up a little bit so i think we're about to see one we're going to see like a clear distinction of who's against two and not like obviously you know crystal or versus Sutton like and all of that well it is with Crystal and Sutton she's still like
Starting point is 01:06:43 Sutton is still maintaining that her and Crystal are good friends like she said at one point she said I love you as much as I hate you yeah I love you as much as I hate you which is very confusing yeah but clearly like she still has friendly feeling she still feels like she broke through last year and she's like we're still friends so it's going to be interesting to see if she still tries to maintain that or if she just says fuck it I don't care but I I think she's still going to try to maintain it because in that group, she's got Garcet and Sutton has Garcell. Yep.
Starting point is 01:07:13 She needs to kind of compile numbers a little bit just to at least have somebody to have her back. Or at least, you know, just don't step on as many toes. We do have, we got a couple questions. Okay. We got a couple questions. We didn't get a ton of questions, but we did get a couple. So one question here from Kate, Kate, repeat question, question number two, Kate was the
Starting point is 01:07:39 Boink Mary Kill Andrea That was a classic Kyle and Carl Yeah But did you watch Real Housewives Ultimate Girls Trip
Starting point is 01:07:52 And will you cover Ultimate Girls Trip X Wives Club Season 2 We could get into that I watched Did you watch the first season? I watched one episode
Starting point is 01:08:03 I think I would have liked it I just I didn't dive into it but maybe I should. We might. I think we might. Yeah, we could always just do like a viewing party. Yeah, I think.
Starting point is 01:08:14 Just go back and watch things on demand. I'd be down to watch that. Yeah. Moving on. Call Grant. Oh, hey. Oh, hey. Which housewife from the Beverly Hills cast
Starting point is 01:08:25 would you pick to back you in a street fight? Oh, hell yeah. That's a good one. We got to lay some... Ooh. Let me think about this because the way that I think about this is street fight who's going to be most likely
Starting point is 01:08:41 to have like a switchblade on them let's say no weapons no weapons no weapons Beverly Hills only no rules but no weapons okay curb stop all right I'm thinking
Starting point is 01:08:55 probably Erica oh no no no I think she's all bark no I think that she talks a big game but I think that she would get But did you see that purse she had tonight? I think it was like a fucking mace. Well, we did say no weapons.
Starting point is 01:09:12 Yeah, no weapons. What about purses? Weapons can be used as perfect. She already said that. She's going to bash somebody's head over there. If there's a draw and there's sudden death, they can use purses. That's fair. I'm sticking with her.
Starting point is 01:09:22 Don't, because all of hers are gone. I'm going with, so my housewife will fight your housewife. So. Hmm I think I take Renna Okay Yeah I like Rinna's chances
Starting point is 01:09:44 I could see her as like a Grab you by the hair Not let you go Yeah Just feisty I think she'd kick the shit on Erica It'd be a good fight It would be a good fight
Starting point is 01:09:53 Yeah Bring back a celebrity death match Rough and Rowdy Hey Renna versus Erica It's never out of the question Oh fuck maybe Yo
Starting point is 01:10:03 That we might be beyond us out there. Reach out to Corey at Barstall and see if we can get them into rough and rowdy. Then we got to reach out to their publicists. That's it.
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