Bros & Shows - Please Give Us Entertainment (RHOA Full Recap S17E8)

Episode Date: May 27, 2026

What's up bros? It feels like Atlanta is falling apart before our eyes. From storylines we truly do not care about to regurgitating stupid issues and spats from episodes ago with no additional context; it seems this season has completely lost its way. We try to dig into the problems and where we can go from here and also do our best to recap one of the most lackluster episodes we've had to review. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

You're no longer young people. You're just people. And people are either productive or dead weight. It's my first day of work and I need to make a big impression. Were you just checking me out? No. It's too bad. I see at least 15 ladies I need to talk to before my beta block is off. My coworkers don't take me seriously. It's not a human. It's just a piece of meat. Someone bring a gurney.

We started off so hot and I really had high hopes. We recovered off of a weird. year last year. We need to talk about the state of Atlanta. This was alarming. This episode, we're in a tough spot. We're in a tough spot. I don't even know if you can call this an episode. This obviously could have been an email.

Like just skip it from Memorial Day weekend, send everybody an email the watches via Peacock and just say, hey, guys, nothing happens this week. We're just going to skip the next week. See you later. As there's a drive in a deep left field by Castellanos. Oh, man, it's 8 o'clock. And so that'll make it a... I don't need the spotlight.

I shine just fine. Hi, I'm Karma. And yes, I am a bitch. Brov Bros. Good evening, everybody, and welcome back to another episode of Brab Bros. Your favorite podcast from the Bros. For everybody, for whoever wants to listen, I'm your co-host. Steel Russell, joined as always by Shooter McGuder.

This is serious. So you got your legal name tonight. Yeah, yeah. that was that was one of that was an episode of housewives uh-huh that's that's what it was yeah it wasn't um i don't know what to make of it like it wasn't the worst thing i've ever seen we've definitely seen more maddening episodes there was just it was boring as shit and there's a big reason why it was boring and i get why it was boring and i understand why they had to do this at some point but i would say space it out this was a kelly centric episode and i don't understand

the point of doing a Kelly-centric episode is at this point. I mean, she's a sophomore. It's not like she's one of the heavy hitters. It's not like she's been on the show for a long time and we need a full check-in. Nobody seems to like her. I haven't seen one person online be like, wow, it's so nice to see what's going on in Kelly's life. It was so boring. And it feels produced, but I don't even care that it was produced because I was just not entertained at all. Yeah, it was an interesting move to just highlight Kelly. And look, I understand that we have to highlight cast members at some point. So it's not like the most unheard of thing.

It's just more so given the tone of the season, right? Like we started off really well. We were all excited. There's been some bumps in the road. The last two or three episodes, there are some things happening that are cause for concern. And then you back that up with this. And it's like, well, what was the thought process behind?

Did you guys think that Kelly was killing it? Are they, is the B squad convincing the producers that they're killing it? Like that's the only thing I can think of. They're like, oh, wow, this trio of Shamiya and Kelly and K. Michelle, who would have seen this coming? They're great. We got to do more of this. Yeah, I also don't think there's been a more accelerated flop like K Michelle in a long time.

And she started off. There was so much intrigue. There was so much going on for her. I wanted more K Michelle. And now I'm wondering if I want any K Michelle. And that's a hard, hard left turn for the middle of the season. I don't even know what episode we're on.

But, oh, one little update, just a little clerical thing. I have started putting the season and episode numbers in our recaps when I post them, because a lot of people have been asking for that. So be on the lookout so you don't get lost. I don't know what episode this is, though, but I'll figure it out later. I just pull a peacock. But that being said, I mean, I don't know what to do with this. It's sort of like, and we also get shit for using sports terminology, but

it's sort of like you're paying a pitcher a lot of money and you just have to run him out there. Like, all right. Oh, it's Taiwan Walker's Day. All right. Yeah. I don't know why our fourth or fifth pitcher is making this much money, but we do have to just kind of put him out there. He's going to get shelled. That's what this was.

We're paying Kelly. And it's sort of like, I mean, we still have our speculations that Shemia is weirdly a producer's sweetheart. It doesn't make any sense to me. Like, there's nothing going on in her life either. So if they ended up just mailing this entire episode. and just going from Kelly to Shemia, I wouldn't blame them. Because then at least there would be a structure. But they do this.

And then they have the thing at Fager's at the end of the episode. And I'm like, okay, so you did have content to put in here. There was other things going on. You just wanted to check in with Kelly because for whatever reason you think that her life is interesting. She's way more interesting when she just brings up the fact that she's going through bankruptcy. Or she brings up the fact that one of her stores isn't doing as well as the other ones. Like, that's okay. But we don't have to go to Nana's Waffles, the one that's underperforming, the one that's not

working out to see how it's not working. No, that's the one that was working out. Right. Yeah. And then we talked about the other one. Right. But like on paper, Kelly has a lot going on. Right.

The potential bankruptcy, Nana's is is flopping, at least the Sandy Springs one. Her husband's not letting her film with her kids like our ex-husband. So there's there are things there. And in a different season or through a different perspective, I wouldn't have minded something like this, but given Kelly's performance up until this point, and the B squad as a whole, like the pool house, island of misfit toys, they're not intriguing. They're the afterthought of the season. The other ladies are actually doing a really good, like Portia is being Porsche, but she's

entertaining. Angela's doing it a great job this year. Fajra, I think is very entertaining. You have people on this show that I want to hang out with, that I want to see hang out. out with each other. Drew, I want her in the mix. But you go over to Kelly. And it's like, one, she's been overproducing all season, right? She's trying to hit with iconic lines every episode, every confessional. She's reading off of a script that she wrote the day before like, ooh, this is a good line. This is a good line. Don't reward overproduction. And that's what we did here.

And I'm trying to understand why. And the only thing I can get to is, again, did they see the, pool house trio and they're like oh wow they're standing up to the group they're not falling for their bullshit like they're actually holding their ground like this is entertaining and interesting like that's the only thing i could think of that production was in the the editing room like oh yeah this is good shit i think that's where the big concern comes for me because we're spending so much time on people like kelly shamiah seeing what's going on in their lives talking a lot about the rest of the group versus them they're building up for something that is going to be awful.

They're building up for the team versus team. And it's just not going to matter because the way that Fager, the way that Angela, Portia, the way that they interact with those other women, it's not entertaining. They just don't want anything to do with them. Like, they'll try a little bit. But once they do that, like, I've always said that the women on Atlanta have the best bullshit meter possible, whereas you see something on Beverly Hills or OC, they read into a lot of things that are so pointless and so stupid and so clearly produced that it

takes us four or five episodes to get through. Atlanta is the opposite of that. Atlanta, you'll see somebody like Fager or Angela look at them and be like, oh, no. And they'll just walk out. They'll just straight up say no. I'm not engaging with this and I'm going to leave. And then talk about how funny it was that they left,

but it gives us no moments. It gives us no crux of an episode. So I get really worried because we're spending so much time talking about this and talking about the dysfunction of the group and how we're forming teams. And then I see pictures of Kay, Michelle, Pinky, Shimea, and Kelly. all hanging out. I start to think we're getting to the big climax of the season and it's going to be those four against everybody else. I mean, like, that just does not do anything for me. No, I think you clocked it perfectly actually because you're 100% right. Like they, they clock each other almost

instantly. Like they don't have any time for bullshit, which I very much appreciate. It's one of the the charming things about Atlanta. But I agree with you. It seems like we're trying to frame this in a way that's like, ooh, we've got factions. They don't like each other. Big showdown. Hell, yeah. We're showdown at OK Corral. Like, it's coming, everybody.

You getting excited? It's like, no, because there's no substance. And when you have a show with no substance, it can only be carried for so long by your heavy hitters. That's what this season has been thus far. Because you have other ladies performing very well, Cynthia's been a delight. And I already went through the other ladies that are doing well.

they're good enough at this to carry a show for a while. And they did for about six episodes, right? I would say episode seven is when we started to hit some Rocky Waters. And now we're looking at everything as a whole. And we see these big blowup scenes. Like we talked about it last week with Kay Michelle. It's like, dude,

I don't want you to highlight what's going on in a housewife show. Like don't read out exactly what the situation is because it takes me out of the moment. Like I know that this is too much. I know we're being too much. I know that this is kind of produced. Don't tell me it is. It's like if you're watching professional wrestling and they're like, this is fake. It's like, don't do that.

I want to see body slam somebody. So that's my big concern is that we have a very large lack of substance right now. And I think a big part of that is because K. Michelle refuses to engage. She doesn't want to get into it. She doesn't want to put up with people's bullshit, not doing this, that or the other. Which I get in real life. This is not real life. We're on TV.

And my biggest issue is because of that, because we're harboring resentment over small things that happened during the premiere, now we're here. And it's like, why are we still? Why are you bringing up black again? Yeah. Like, I thought this was squashed. Why are we bringing up things that happened eight years ago from your rumor, allegedly? Like, we're diving too deep into trivial shit. And the show is suffering as a result.

Yeah, the show is definitely suffering as a result. And I don't like that we keep dipping back into the pool of let's start something up with Drew. Like clearly Drew's up to something. We got to figure out what she's like. Drew is so good as a one-off character. She can never carry a season. There are a lot of housewives like that that we're very enjoyable. They're very delusional.

They're very out there. They're perfect for the show that they're on. That's what Drew is. But once you put her in the middle, it's sort of like putting Sutton in the middle of Beverly Hills. It just doesn't work. Like it never works because it just doesn't go anywhere. And also it's just stupid content. So I don't really understand what the idea is for the rest of the season.

I'm not really excited about it. And Kay Michelle and Watch Robbins Live made it even less exciting because Andy asked her, which is what we're all questioning, you seem to say a lot in the confessionals. He seemed to say a lot in Twitter, but you don't say anything in the moment. And she says it's because I don't want to engage with them. It's because I don't want to get involved in what's going on. Why are you on the show? Exactly.

It makes no sense. Like she's just not a good fit. And obviously it's easy for us to say, you know, we're, eight episodes, nine episodes in, whatever it might be. Now we're at the point we're like, all right, K Michelle, flop, Pinky, not doing a whole lot. And the big thing for me anyway, as much as I love Fadra, Fadra's still phoning it in.

She phoned it in last year and she's phoning it again. I mean, yeah, the Reiki party is fun, like watching her play a flute, funny, but she's doing nothing at all, like truly nothing. So right now we've got Portia going through her dating life. That's carrying the show. We've got Angela making good reads on people. that's carrying the show, but there's nothing else. You can't really point to anything else and be like,

that's a good storyline that I'm invested in. It's just coming down to petty squabbles, and that's never going to work. No, no, and that's a good point. And, you know, earlier I said Fadre was doing well. I guess you're right, though, and you really want to dive into what she's contributed this season. What is it? Confessionals?

Yeah, and that I would imagine she's doing something behind the scenes, but we can't rely on the fact that she might pull something out of her pocket in episode 13. So instead, it takes me back to what I just said. There's no substance here. It's just not working. And like even Drew, she's even in these moments like, what are we doing?

You can tell that she doesn't want to get into the black stuff because she's like, this is a non-factor. And I said it three weeks ago. I was like, she has something. Like she's going to pull something out on K-Michel and black. Then we saw the FaceTime with Black and Drew.

And I was like, oh, she doesn't have anything. There's nothing here. The only person bringing it up repeatedly is K Michelle. And my big problem is it's so blah, and I don't care and I'm not invested, that if we do get to a point in an next episode of the following, where there is some crazy scheme or there was something going on with Black,

I don't really care now. Like, I don't really give a shit. And that's a problem. I've fully lost interest in all of those things. And that's what they're trying to push down our throats at this point. It's that and it's individual storylines. And the individual storylines are doing absolutely nothing for me. And that's across the board, to be very honest.

I mean, aside from, it's a little unfair to say everybody. But Porsche's dating life is interesting. It's just, it's what we always talk about when the season, when the season is fully uninteresting to begin with, the little storylines that give us a reprieve do nothing. They truly don't. Exactly. And again, Porsche has been on the show for so long that it's like, yeah, I do want to see what's going on in her life.

So I'm engaged in those scenes, but then we go back to Kelly or we go back to Shamea. And I'm like, no, there's just no reason to go back to it. And I guess you have to make a show. But for all intents and purposes, we heard that this was going to be a banger of a season. We heard that this was going to be awesome. And maybe it still will.

It started off really hot, but it's floundered. There's nothing to talk about. We're still talking about Black and Kay Michelle and Drew, which makes no sense because we've got nothing else to talk about. And it's because Kay Michelle won't engage in other things that are going on. She doesn't want to confront people head on and say that you're spilling the rumor that happened eight, 10 years ago. Like even when we try to do it in this episode, it's just, it's pointless.

A lot of it's just very pointless. I think that you highlighted something, though. And I think the reason that we're not getting involved and invested is because anytime we get together as a group, which is where the big storylines tend to take place, people comment on it. That's where things kind of build, the tension, the drama, all that good stuff. It's derailed every time because let's say it was a scheme. Okay. Like that wouldn't be crazy if Kay Michelle caught wind of them doing something behind the scenes, right?

If that is happening and then we get to this and you guys are trying to Porsche is trying to dig a little bit, K's giving her nothing. Then she goes out to the pool and she has everything to say. But if it doesn't happen ever with the group, then there's no movement. Now we're stale. We're stagnant. We're talking about the same shit over and over again. It's like building up for this punchline and you never give the punchline. And now because of that, it's such a delayed punchline.

I don't care about the punchline. Yeah, it's going to be underwhelming no matter what it is. Yeah. Exactly. And that's the other thing with Phaer that we were just talking about in a good season where there's a lot happening and there's one big thing that's missing, one big piece of the puzzle that's missing. It's usually because Fager's got something in the works.

Right. But it's not a good season. So now we're just looking at. and other people like the big heavy hitters, like, do something. And poking them with a stick. Like, please do something. Show up. I don't care if it's produced or not.

Just give us something else to talk about. Make up a lie for the love of God. Do whatever. Get Junebug on the case. Whatever you have to do. Yeah, where's Junebug back. I actually miss the days where Angela and Fager were at odds, even though it was the stupidest shit ever.

That was better than whatever this episode was. I agree. It's, it's alarming. It's kind of a bummer. I had such high hopes for this. And I really don't know how they navigate out of this. There's enough time in the season for them to rally and figure out something. Like, it's not the end of the world.

And like you said in the beginning, this wasn't like the worst episode of ever seen. It was more just, it was kind of proof that it's like, yeah, there's nothing going on this season because here we are pretty much halfway through, if not further. And we're legit talking about the same exact storylines. The only potential payoff we were going to have. is Kay Michelle is now ready to talk.

Okay, great, let's talk. You bring up something completely unrelated that we have no context of with Nosh. And then you list off the three things that we were talking about all season that with no further movement. We're not getting Kay Michelle coming up with like a big like slam dunk like,

bah, gotcha. It's just repeating what the problem is. It's like, okay, well, what are we going to do about the problem? Are you going to say anything? Are you going on Twitter? are we going to go toe to toe, or we're going to watch you go to the pool with the B squad, and you guys are,

now you have all the energy. Like, that's not, that doesn't work. I need cohesiveness somewhere, even if it's you budding heads with everybody. But this is just, it's just a big old nothing burger.

Yeah. And I mean, it does sound like we're doing a podcast where the sky is falling. We can usually tell when things are going bad. And I, I think that the way we're talking, it might seem hyperboats, But it's not because you look at the cast across the board.

They've just got a huge problem, a massive problem. There's not enough good content coming out of the women on this show. And there's really good pieces. You've got people sitting in the right position. You've got Portia who's always going to be Porsche. You've got Angela. You found Angela last year. She was incredible.

She's a great addition. She can continue to do that. But with no content, you're not going to get the best out of Angela. With no content, you're not going to get the best out of Fadra. There's just no content from anybody else. No one else is showing up. And if you get somebody, and again, it doesn't really make a ton of sense. They're still trying to center things around Shemia, which makes zero sense to me.

But here we are again, looking at Shemia like, all right, are you going to do anything? No, probably not. And it's just going to be overly produced. And Kelly can't carry a show. So it's just, it's a nightmare. It's a nightmare of a cast right now. They need to be able to do something. And I don't know what they do because every time they try to bring somebody back or they try to dip their toe into like a different reality world and bring somebody like K.

Michelle in being like, hey, we don't even have to show you the ropes. you know what's going on here. They don't know what's going on. They don't know how to carry a show. So they are in, I believe, a world of hurt. And I do not know where they go from here because it was not just one episode. It was something that was building. And it's the opposite of what you want a season to be building towards.

It started off hot. When we got down to Texas, everything started to come to fruition. Everything started rearing its ugly head and showing us that there's nothing to talk about. And that these women are not going to get involved in different situations. And then we come back from Texas and we're like, okay, there really is nothing here. Let's follow Kelly around all day. So that's the big issue. It's not just a, all right, we get a little bit of a breather from everything.

Maybe people will regroup and we'll get back to it in a couple episodes. It doesn't seem like that. It just seems like they've got nothing to do. Yeah. And I think, again, it's not, like you said, it's not end of the world shit. It also, because it's Atlanta, we hold Atlanta to a high standard. because it's Atlanta. It has a storied history, right?

It's a great franchise. It has some of the best housewives to ever come out of the housewives realm. And we've been waiting for it to get back to its glory. We started off and it looked like we were finally headed in that direction after last year and that disaster with Kenya posting poster boards of what's her face, blowing somebody. Like, we were in a weird time. And then we start the season off.

We got some new characters that are interesting seemingly. And I'm not out on Pinky, by the way. I think she's just, it's her first season. I think she's getting comfortable and trying to figure out the ropes. I'm not out on her yet. But you gave us hope. You gave us hope for like three episodes. Like, this is really fucking good TV.

I'm really excited for where we're going. The newbies seem like they know what they're doing. Kay Michelle's bit on reality TV. Like, this is all kind of lining up. So that's part of it, too. we got our hopes up really high like holy shit Atlanta's back I said that I said it fuck I forgot I said it that's what happened yinks yeah you started it you said it first I don't think I said anything you did oh damn it I hate this I hate when you do this uh but that's

I mean I think it's because we want this show to be so good we had hope that it was going back to that high standard only to be let down in very, very big fashion because of Kay Michelle, honestly. I think that she is one of the main reasons this season is so derailed because everything just kind of deviates as soon as she's involved. Yeah, I mean, I think it's more of a casting issue overall. I think that's really what it comes down to because I think you can get, if you move a couple more pieces or they probably should have paused after last season,

all of the shit fell apart. I think it would have made more sense to pause in the fact that we then got word right away. They were bringing in a couple newbies. They were filming pretty much right away. We were very confused. Everybody was confused when we heard that. We heard that at the reunion that they were going to pick up cameras in a couple of weeks. I'm like, why? It doesn't make any sense. The season sucked. Figure out what you're going to do moving forward and then let us know what's going on. I think with Atlanta, it's very funny too, because it'll never be a full-blown hate watch for me because there's two people on this show that I really like. So the way that they can do the show moving

forward is don't show us anything. Just go to confessionals. Give us an entire episode just confessionals. I'll be okay with that because at least then we just get their personalities, which is fine by me. But it's never going to be like a full-blown, like I can't believe that we're still doing this. It'll be more of a, wow, that was really boring. Wow, they're still talking.

Can you believe that they're still talking about the same thing that they talked about the first half of the season? I can't. And yet here we are. So something's going to have to move the needle. I just don't know what it is. Like I'm not in the business of fortune telling. I'm not the business of predicting the future and like what might pop up.

At some point, the people on this show, the vets on this show, are going to be able to look around and realize that they've got nothing to talk about and they're going to fabricate something and that's okay because that is a last ditch effort but that moving forward is not sustainable so i do think by the end of this season when they realize like oh yeah we really build this out to be a great season of atlanta and people are bored what are we supposed to do pause it pause it bring people back bring whoever you want back maybe you know not everybody but bring whoever you want back and then see where you are in the year like just give it a little bit of the time to marinate and ruminate.

Otherwise, I don't think you can just run it back with this group. I don't think that Pinky, yeah, you're right. She might be able to figure it out. I do think she's kind of taking a step back. But again, I see her hanging out with only Shimea Kelly and Kay Michelle off screen. So that's not really good for me. I don't want the B squad anymore. No, and just bring back nini leaks.

That's what they have to do. I mean, like clearly things have changed and things are good. So maybe this was just like a, I don't know, like a bridge here. Like let's just throw out people who we have and see what we have and then go back to Nini. I mean, if they, that's a break glass in case of emergency. Just have us know it by like episode 13. Like, hey, by the way, Nini's coming back next year. Then we'll be happy.

Then we can look at what we have and start like picking and choosing who we want to be on the show moving forward. But unless that announcement comes out, I've got nothing to look forward to in the future. No, and I agree. Like, I think that you made a really good point. there's a lot of very enjoyable people on this cast like there's a lot i love i love angel i think she's awesome portia i will always enjoy on tv pinkie like i said jerry's still out but i have hopes for her cynthia is amazing like there's stuff here right there's good cast members here we just need to put the the final piece together there's something missing i mean you called it

20 minutes ago. Like there's a missing piece of this puzzle. Maybe it's NeNeely leaks. I don't know. It's worth a try because I think if Kenya hadn't done what Kenya did last year, I think we're in a very different spot this year. And I think if we take that back, there's a lot of question marks still,

but I don't know where we're currently at if that whole debacle doesn't go down the way it did. But let's dive in that we don't have a lot to discuss this episode, hence the state of the union type address here. But let's dive in. And again, it's a Kelly centric episodes where Nana's Chicken and Waffles. And it's just kind of running through all the shit that she's going through. Right.

I'm pretty sure that she has to pay child support is what I got from that. That sucks balls. She has to pay like over 50 grand. That's tough. The McDonough location of Nana's Chicken and Waffles doing great. This big flagship location of Nana's Chicken and Waffles. in Sandy Springs. Not great.

So now she gambled on a big location. She's already in the hole. And it's sounding like she's going to have to declare bankruptcy. The only thing I can think of when we're sitting here talking about this is going back to that scene with her and Pinky one-on-one where they're like, we are the best. They all suck because we're self-made and this and that. It's like that didn't age that well because you're at a tough spot. It definitely didn't age that well for Kelly.

now Pinky I feel like is going to be fine regardless, especially given where she is with her husband and what her husband has going for him, she'll be fine because she'll be able to just kind of like declare bankruptcy, let's move on, we'll figure something else out. And then further down the line, we'll start making money again.

Great. Kelly's screwed. So when she goes back and has that conversation with Pinky, it's like, yeah, you can't say that Pinky absolutely can, but you definitely can't say that because now you're starting to look like a bit of a failed businesswoman.

And maybe you should just pump the brakes a little bit until you get through all of this because it's one thing to just have a bankruptcy. That's normal. That's a very normal course of business at this point. But to have another failed restaurant is brutal on top of it. So it's starting to look like a shit sandwich for Kelly. Yeah, exactly. And I think a big thing with Kelly.

And I don't know if it's because of last season and the Shamiya of it all. But I think a big thing with Kelly is she and Shemia and that whole group thinks they're like top of the heat that they're the shit and it comes off that way it doesn't come off in like a fun ooh let's hang out with the group kind of way it's kind of like they don't have time for any of the other ladies because of some shit that's gone on which i get to a certain extent but there there comes a time where we have to be able to move on from things and not harbor this resentment at one another where we're still pulling shit out and with kelly like i i i genuinely feel bad for like yeah she's going through a ton of shit, a lot of really hard shit.

And I don't want her to go bankrupt. And I don't want her to pay 50 grand to her acts. I don't want that. Like, I want her to be thriving because then I think we get a different Kelly. And maybe we can chalk it up to that. Do you think that maybe like shit is so tough? No, no. I think Kelly's boring as hell.

And then she tries to be iconic, which is my least favorite type of housewife. Yeah, no, that's true because you do get those big one miners all the time. Yeah. Yeah, I don't know. And then like with a jarvis of it all. it's like so you have like you're dating somebody in a potential storyline we don't even know his name and you're not even talking about him that's a complete and utter joke given the circumstances of everything going on i mean i'm down to just read into that go ahead like bring that to the group's

attention and have everybody try to figure out who it is and then we find out it's a married man i mean there were people saying i guess the rumor that's going around about kelly is that she's dating a pastor and this pastor is very famous yeah mega church pastor and he has a and he's been known to cheat on his wife before. So I would be, honestly, I would be ecstatic if we would dig into that because I want to see how Kelly decides how to navigate that. I don't think it's going to be very good, but it'll at least be very entertaining to watch people like, Adrian and Angela.

Yeah, no, yeah, that's, yeah, that's the rumor is what I said. So I think that's alleged enough. But yeah, I mean, again, you've got nothing going on except for this bankruptcy and I understand that you think that's appealing, but it loses its luster very quickly. We don't want to watch sad scenes about you losing all your. money. We want to watch good scenes about uplifting stuff or cheating scandals. Cheating scandals always move the needle. That's it.

Let's talk about that. Let's get that word out. Let's go back in time and we'll talk to Fager and Angela and let them know what's going on. So at least they can dig into it. Like that would be something new at least. But the gall for Kelly to get on that confessional and call him and then call him Jarvis and then call him Tony Stark afterwards because he doesn't want to reveal his name. Don't tell us about him at all.

Correct. Why are we doing this? Correct. And I think that's another thing. It's like when we have blowups in the group, things come out, right? Like the married man thing. And Fadra knows who this guy is, apparently. And she can confirm that, yeah, they did have sex on.

Now apparently they had sex on the plane. I don't know. But that tells me that you guys have some shit. What are we waiting for? We're running out of time. Why are we not diving into that stuff? Let's go scorched earth and just pull this shit. out and let's fucking see what we have.

It's never discussed until shit hits the fan. And then it's like a one-off. It's like, wait, time out. Go back to that. That sounds really interesting. And apparently you've got some shit on Porsche because you keep saying you do. Let's see a scene with Shamiya and Kelly talking about that, dive into what Kelly knows. Then let's see a scene with Fajor and Portia diving into what they know about this mystery

airplane, man. I get you don't want to blow up his life or because of his one. wife, he shouldn't have fucked Kelly that. I'm sorry. Like, we're protecting a cheater while the show is going down in flames. That's not that. Damn it. That I can't even realize that.

I just got really scared. I scared myself because you said we're running out of time. And what if we're not running out of time? What if there's like 10 episodes left? There could be. They're very well could be. We haven't even got the midseason trailer yet. Oh, fuck.

We haven't. Oh, boy. We might be him for this one. It's a second half. Yeah, this is going to be brutal. Oh, maybe they'll write the ship. I would not say that about any other show, but I do have faith in the OGs of Atlanta.

I do. And look, it's a long shot. But if this was O.C., I would chalk everything up. I'd be like, we're fucked. If it was Beverly Hills, I'd be like, we're fucked.

Even if it was Salt Lake, I'd say we're fucked. I, maybe the back half of the season is just should me not being able. to do the rum company. Shimee and Kelly can't film anymore so the show gets better. Oh, God. Well, Kay Michelle goes to the dentist and again just highlights why she shouldn't necessarily

be on this show because she's talking to Kasten. And she's like, you know, Dallas was a lot, but I've been very called with how I present myself. And granted, we had a few blowups down there. But she talks to Kasten about this plotting and scheming and that phager portion and Drew were plotting. about what? What are they talking about?

What do you have? Who did you hear it from? Why can you tell Kastin about this, but we're in the group, you can't talk to anybody about it? This is my whole problem with K. Michelle. It's like, I don't have the energy

for those ladies. Well, that's the whole premise of housewives, literally. Yeah, it's literally you should be prefacing it with your husband and then having full energy. You should be saving your energy for the group battles, if you will. Instead, it's like, no, you know,

I'm going to talk this all out. Maybe I'll pull like Kelly and Shemia aside and we'll talk about it more. But then I'll make sure to end the conversation with. But I'm not going to bring it to the rest of the group because I don't want it to turn into something else. It's already something else. They're already clearly, if you say it this way, then in your brain, they're already talking about it on the other end.

Go talk to them directly. That's the only way to handle these things. And that's not even just reality TV. That's real life. I mean, if you don't want people talking about you and there are people that can stir some shit up for you, go talk to them. You can't do it behind closed doors all the time. I agree.

But Fager and Angela are hanging out. There was a pottery moment between K. Michelle and Fadra. Yeah, no, I'm not talking. I'm just saying apparently she's cool with Fadre now. And she's like, it turns me on when you know not to play with me. I'm like, Fadre's not scared of you. No. I don't think anybody is in this group.

But we get to Fajer and Angela. And they're getting friendly, which I would love in a normal season. It's like, okay, we bridge this gap. That's nice. Let's see what these two can do together. That's kind of fun. And they're talking about the K-Michel of it all and this alleged scheme. And she's blaming Portia and Drew for this scheme, but she didn't elaborate. It's like, okay, so what are we doing? Where's the receipt? Where's the evidence?

What the fuck is going on? Porsche is playing dumb, of course, because if she does have something, she's not going to let it slip until she wants to let it slip. That's how Porsche operates. So we're just saying the same shit again. There's a rumor. Literally just going from scene to scene talking about other people's feelings, but not being able to calculate exactly what they're thinking. That's pretty much what I get from everything.

Whether it's Kay Michelle going to other people and talking about it and then not even trying to read into what they're doing or why they're doing it, or you get over to Angela and Fager who are discussing what's going on, but also not really understanding what's going on. So we're at home still not really understanding what. what the hell is going on or where we're going with any of this. It's just so fruitless. Like it just, you never get it. It's more just like, okay, cool, we're talking about it. We're talking about it.

Maybe at one point we'll talk about it in the group and we'll see what everybody thinks. No, actually, we will do that, but there's no context or at least not enough context. So nobody's going to have an opinion on it. That's kind of what we're building towards and that's going to be the biggest letdown. It's like the pink motel joke. Remember that one? Yeah, yeah. 10 minute joke for like the worst payoff ever.

That's kind of what we're. we're getting into right now. But we get to Portia and Pilar and her niece and she's talking to her mom and her sister. And like I'm, I am interested in in this part of the show. Like I do like these scenes. She's talking about her dating life and Mike and Sway and the baby of it all. Like Mike said no baby is a deal breaker for him. And she's not sure if she wants to do that again. Now with Sway, Sway wants to have a baby, but Sway wants to carry the baby. Correct. So Porsche's a little interested in that to see where that goes. I think that this journey that she shares is actually really fascinating,

where she's trying to figure out who she's going to end up with, if it's a man or if it's a woman. It doesn't matter. But it's very, I like this. This is the only thing this season that I'm like remotely invested in. I'm very invested in it just because I like watching Porsche and watching her navigate all these things.

But the problem with Portia always is the rest of the group is just going to make like one comment about it and move on. Like we're not going to have a deep conversation about what's going on. She might actually, no, I think she's alienated enough people. She would have probably done that with Shemia. But I don't think that she has that like tight knit friendship with anybody on this cast. So we're not going to see. Cynthia maybe.

I mean, we ask too much of Cynthia on this show at this point. She's already doing. She's already carrying the entire show on her back. It's really tough. But I can't see her sitting down with anybody else and like really talking about it and like navigating it. Nor can I really see anybody bringing it up in a negative way. to go after Porsche. Like, they're just going to kind of leave it alone.

So again, it's more information, but it's a single storyline. It's a singular storyline of one person that does nothing else for the rest of the group. So while I'm enjoying it, again, nothing for the season. What's the payoff? Yeah. Well, let's keep on trucking because we get to Kelly and Shemia. I mean, I'm not heartless. It's like obviously this scene.

I appreciate Shemia sharing her journey with this whole thing. She's still trying for the surrogate. They have one embryo left, one male embryo left. And this to me was a conversation about Gerald. Like what's his response going to be, which sucks for Shemia that you have this added pressure of like he wants a boy. And I don't know what's going to happen if he doesn't have a boy. And Gerald doesn't exactly invoke confidence in me when he's on screen or talking to Shemia.

So I actually, I felt for Shemia in this scene, I felt what she's going through like that is really fucking hard. Just I'm about adopting this than the other. It does raise the question. though. After watching this whole scene, it's like, is this what Shamia wants? Are she doing this because of Gerald?

Yeah, it's tough to say too. I mean, when the surrogate calls you out and says, oh, I haven't seen Gerald. He doesn't stop by anymore. I'm like, ugh. Right. Okay. Yeah, I don't really care for that one. But I, we don't have enough screen time with Gerald. We don't have enough time looking at Shamea and Gerald's relationship for me to really get like a clear cut picture on what kind of guy he is.

I don't know. with Shemia, everything is always a little questionable. So I don't know if, you know, Gerald is that kind of guy or not that kind of guy. Who the hell knows exactly? But Kelly being there, I'm like, okay, great. Like I almost wanted to tune out the entire scene with the two of them in it because I knew nothing was really going to happen. But I thought that this was at least interesting because it shows that and we saw that last year where she was going through the surrogacy. And we found out that the surrogacy had failed.

So that really sucked. But this is kind of building off of that, which is cool and great. to like kind of get a peek into so i at least appreciate that i can appreciate that aspect like you said we're not heartless we just think she me is boring as shit and she shouldn't be the center peach so there doesn't make any sense but again the rest of it is just you know it's it's fine it's something to kind of like keep tabs on yeah for sure but we get kelly and chloe for and again like what was this no idea like i know it's like showing time i would i'm assuming because she's not allowed to film with the kids this is her time to film with one of her

children, which I respect that part of it. But what did we get from it? Well, I think this entire episode was essentially cut with those in-between scenes. Like, yes, yeah. Like the fact that I really thought a main scene was going to be Porsche is sitting down with her family, which I just assume that her entire family lives in that house, which is very funny. But Porsche is sitting down with her family and then they break out a snake.

I'm like, oh, where's this going to go? No, the scene's actually over. They're all like those in-between scenes between scenes between the bigger scenes. That's what this entire episode was the big. Yeah, there's check-ins. Check-in here, check-in there, which we like the check-in scenes when there's more going on in the season. If it's a good season, I want every check-in scene you can fit into the episode when it's a good season. I want to see what they're doing.

I want to see if I relate to a scene. When it's not an interesting season, it's just like, why are you doing this instead of building something else? We're not building up anything. Nope. but Porsche and Sway and look I get it. Sway is swaggy as shit. I think Sway is fucking awesome. I love this scene.

And I can completely see why Portia fell for Sway. And we do get more background on it. It was like 10 years ago. And I guess Portia and Simon were kind of going. Or was it Dennis? She was Simon at the time. I think it was Simon. Yeah.

Portia and Simon were going through something. So she connected this way. They were chit chatting. I guess she got back in the good grace of assignment and just kind of ghosted sway for a while. And then nine years later, lo and behold, here we are again. And this, I thought was a super authentic seed. I thought this was real. And I love this scene, actually, amidst everything else, all the boring shit.

Because you're seeing Portia navigate this love life of hers and figure out where she wants to end up. And I think that, you know, a big part of it is the baby part of it, but the fact that Sway wants to carry the baby kind of takes away the tough part of that one so she can have a kid with Sway. But what I gathered from this, Sway's ready, like within the year.

Like I'm ready to settle down. Yeah, Sway had said, I want to make sure that I can have everything that I need probably within a year because Porsche, I think originally had said like three to five years. Three to five, she said. Yeah, I'm thinking more about like a year. or at least have some things in place within the year.

But what I got from it is that Porsche is just very smitten by sway. I haven't seen Porsche like this since Cordell Stewart. And that's been a long, long time. Yeah, like giggling and going back and forth and like actually listening and not just kind of pushing her own agenda. Like I actually genuinely think they have a really good connection. They have a really good relationship. I think they're still together too, which is awesome.

So I want to see where that goes. Again, that's the main focus of this episode for me, was these scenes, the scenes about Porsche going through her relationship, which that's what I think you should be centering things around. People care about what horses is up to. No one gives a fuck about what Kelly's doing with Nana's chicken and waffles. We care about what Porsche is going through with her relationship status. That was a big thing going into the season two was finding out like, oh, wow, she is dating guys and girls and trying to figure out exactly where she wants to go with these things.

So that's interesting. Keep focusing on that when you've got nothing else. I think you made a really good point. And that's the Porsche of it all. And there's going to be people out there that disagree with me. that's fine. When you have a show like this that has been up and down over the past few years, they're not really sure where to go.

They don't really have a direction. Just center the show around a well-known person. Just make it Porsche. Good about it. Yeah. And see what you have. Because then at least we have a focal point. We're locked in on Porsche and her life and everything else deviates from there.

Instead of trying to force this ensemble cast, because you don't have enough big pieces of that ensemble. ensemble. So we're left with a pile of bleh. That's not good. So yeah, I think that that was actually a great point. I think you make the show Porsche centric and then build off of that, see what you have. But as far as Sway goes, I totally get it. Sway's like the coolest person I think I've ever seen. Let's get to the Reiki party at Phaegro's house. And like what what's there to say? I got pissed off immediately because we have everybody at the house. Where's the poolhouse crew?

They're not there. And they're just like sequestering themselves off. We get them picking people up. It's a car ride with Pinky and Kay Michelle. And then Kay Michelle pulls out this Nash thing. Like who the fuck is Nash? And what are you talking about really? This whole thing, this whole setup.

I was like, what is this? Because she's like, well, Nosh has been talking to Porsche. and you would think that Porsche being my friend would tell me that she's talking to my ex. But she didn't do that. It's like, okay, sure, like, I guess girl code is invoked there. And yeah, she probably should have mentioned it. But I, I don't fucking care.

You should have also mentioned it like seven episodes ago. Yeah. What are we doing? Yeah. And also, why are you like buddy, buddy with this man? You just got married and you're talking to an ex. And then you have to clarify once again, like, we're not sleeping with each other. It's like, okay, no one said you were.

and then you're going to bring up black again later when no one else is bringing him up, which is weird. But what the fuck was? Like, what? Who's noth? What do we do it? I don't. I truly just don't understand.

I feel like we've lost the plot. We've either skipped a few chapters or missed an entire book. I don't know what happens. I have no idea what to make of it. It really isn't. Like there's nothing else going on. This is for whatever reason the center focus. We're going to talk about that, but we also don't have any of the context.

So you're talking to us right now. as if we know that Porsche has been talking to Nash for a long time, as if we know who Nash even is. We don't. We have no idea what's going on. And also, I can tell you right now how Porsche is going to handle that. She's going to make a very funny face at you. She's going to just kind of cock her head to the side and say, I don't know what you're

talking about. I don't even talk to that man. And then we're going to be having nothing again. Like, that's where we're pretty much where we're heading. The whole thing is just very, very stupid. And again, I almost don't want to blame Kay Michelle because it's like, okay, are we putting too much on a newbie, somebody who. Yeah, it has a reality TV background, but doesn't really know how to housewife.

Maybe she'll figure it out. No, I don't think that she's going to figure it out. So it just doesn't make any sense today. No, it doesn't. But we get to this super sound bath. It's quite literally a sound bath because we're floating in the pool on air mattresses. And everybody or some people, that pissed me off too. I know.

That really bothered me. I don't know why. Yeah, that really pissed me off. Shamiya sitting on the side. And I'm like, oh, are you really not going to get in there? Well, Shia's air mattress was deflating. I'll give her a pass. fair. But again, we get, it's just the imagery of like, all right, groups in the pool,

these three are not. And the lack of what cohesiveness, even if you're mad at each other, it's just for some reason, seeing the two factions and you see the three sitting on the side of the pool all buddy, buddy, I'm like, you're not even trying. Maybe that's what it is. Like, I don't feel like there's any, any try right now. And it's bothering the shit out of me. I'm not going to lie. But then we get to dinner, right? And Kay Michelle is like, I'm ready to talk.

I'm like, okay, finally, great. Let's get into everything. And she explains this situation. And she says, I had someone tell me that Fager portion, Drew, are trying to gather information about me. Okay. But that hard stop, because then we. hear why K Michelle's been in her shell all season. And it's like, what?

Because she goes, my first interaction was you telling another woman she's up with the married man. That threw me for a loop and closed me off. So I was moving forward and proceeding with caution. Then you came out of the hospital and you said miscarriage. And then you were said on not understanding that whole thing. And then you go to Dallas and I heard behind the scenes that shit's going on to try to expose me.

Okay. What you just said was a season of housewives. Yeah. It was things going on. in the season. What you're supposed to do is respond to those things, however you deem necessary. I don't care. But all you've done is tap out of every situation. And now all you're doing is laying out everything that we already know. I don't care. What's your response to these things, Kaye, Michelle. How do you feel about these things? What do you know? Do you have a smoking gun?

No, please bring it out. Where's the manila envelope? Where's the bedazzled? Binder, where's, where's the, the goods? Because now here we are again, talking about the same shit. And Fadre chimes in and goes, okay, it's three things. No, it's four things. Black. Are you fucking kidding? That seems so like when she threw that out there, like that's not even connected.

It's not even remotely connected. Like you can say I don't feel comfortable because I do feel like you guys are conniving behind my back. And then Drew is also trying to do this black thing. I don't really understand what I have to do to try to get in your good graces. Like if you have that feeling, then I kind of understand it. But she's going about this, like you said, like she has a smoking gun. Like she has somebody who's going to pop out of the bushes and be like, by the way, I was that person.

June bug, come on it. So like, we don't have that. So again, we're just talking more about the same shit that we already talked about. We had a full debrief down in Dallas. You would think you would come back with some more information or at least a better standing going into all of this. but you don't. You've got absolutely nothing. You're just bringing them back to everybody's attention. We already know, they already know that that's who you were talking about table when you walk away and you're talking to Shimea Kelly and Pinky. But now we're bringing it back in. It's like,

okay, let's all talk about it. No one knows what the hell's going on. No one knows what you're talking about. So it's just a complete loss. And I'm going to file it under the same thing, at least for now, as what we talked about with Black last week. Clearly, when it comes down to it, Drew had no idea what was going on. She thought you knew who Black was. Black had no idea what was Because of what you said, by the way. Correct. So we're sweep that under the rug. We're done with that one, but we're going to bring it back and talk about it again for whatever

fucking reason. So Drew has to defend herself, which makes no sense because Drew still doesn't understand what's going on from the first time that you guys talked. And then we've got the rest of them also being lumped in with Drew and saying that they're all going after you, but you don't know why. There's no why to anything. The question at all times is, why are they doing this just for the show, maybe, but there is no real answer to any of this.

And there's no more substance. Why? You know? Why? I don't know. I don't know. I completely agree. And that's where we get lost in all of this,

because that's what we've been talking about. That's where the payoff is supposed to come in, and there is no payoff. So we're left scratching our heads. And then we have to dive into this Nosh situation in which Porsche is like, yeah, that was like a while ago. I didn't even know you, which true or false. I don't really fucking care. But why are you trying to find reasons to have arguments with everyone in the group that are this trivial?

Like, Nosh is irrelevant. I don't care about Nosh. File that under the same category as Black. I don't give a shit. And I don't know why you're bringing this out. Do you trying to prove that Porsche is a bad friend? Porsche has done plenty on TV to prove that she's not a great friend. Pull one of those out.

but you're bringing all this stuff up. And somebody finally says, you're way too sensitive. It's like, yes, way too sensitive for housewives. Kay, Michelle, if you want to live your life and you don't want to get into the bullshit, you want to have peace, be zen, all of those things because love and hip hop was too crazy and you had a bad experience and there's trauma from that, all of the respect in the world. I don't think you should close yourself. Correct.

Correct. I'm not asking you to relive your traumas. but if you come on to a housewife show and then we have to watch an entire dinner scene in which you lay out all of the issues you have with everybody in the group that you have not addressed during the season and then when you lay them out

there's no follow-up, there's no backup, there's no evidence, there's no timelines, there's no proof, there's no nothing. We're sitting watching going, what have we just seen? What was this episode?

It was a big, old nothing burger. Yeah, that's where we sit currently. And then Kelly tries to have a moment out of fucking, she hadn't talked to, whole time and then she says well Porsche is fucked every man in Atlanta what and then she gets carded off unbelievable unbelievable yeah tough it's tough man I all I want is this show to be good

like it's all I fucking want well let's see what the audience has to say I see my name twice I already know what this is going to be uh Rachel Nicholas which would which would shoot or rather do a sys with Eagle woman yes yes yeah uh The hot cave and Southern Charb or a pool meditate. Yes, the Sesh with Eagle Woman for sure. Yeah, I'm out. And Sarah Guy, 2021, Shooter, would you do a sound bath if Fager was there playing the flute? Still now, but slightly moves the needle.

Slightly gets me intrigued. Ryan Stoneman, is anyone else bored of the Shemia solo scenes with her husband? We're just bored of Shemia in general. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, man. Jamie Gibbs still trying to believe in K Michelle, but get it together, girl. No, too far gone. Yeah, I just don't see how.

Oh, yeah, yeah, I don't understand that. Yeah, Jennifer M2M also said, do we think K Michelle's a bit too sensitive for the show, clearly. Yeah, like, we just, we're in a weird spot, guys. We are. I just don't know what to make of it. I don't know how we write this ship. it's really funny too because like a lot of people saw the story and usually we get a bunch of questions

there's like no questions in here really five questions which means either you didn't watch which is fine because it was a holiday weekend you can watch whatever you want or you did watch and you have no questions because there's nothing to really talk about I don't know man again like I just want Atlanta to be good when Atlanta's good it's arguably the best show on Bravo when it's good. And it just, they got our hopes up.

That's the big problem. My hopes were so high. We had like a great start to the season. And then we just plummeted, spiral. Not even a plateau, just a straight. Yep. Unbelievable.

Well, I don't know, guys. I hope maybe next week, something writes the ship. like it actually does turn out to be a banger of a season. We have time. We haven't gotten the midseason trailer, which is actually concerning for you and I,

because that means that this could get worse. Yeah. Yeah. But maybe not. And like I said, if this was OC or Beverly Hills, I'd, I'd throw the towel. We're fucked. I'm not going to do that. I'm not subscribing to a hate watch yet.

I have faith in the ladies of Atlanta. Yeah. Come on. We could do this. Please. Come on. We never do this. We never rah, rah, but we're ra,

right now yes we are that's all i got you got anything else nope nope bro pros are out of here