Bros & Shows - Pringles and Caviar- (RHONY full recap, RHOA full recap)

Episode Date: July 28, 2023

What's up bro's?! We are still buzzing from our live show last night but both of us feel like we got hit by a train. Like a really happy fun train. The show was INCREDIBLE, the audience was AMAZING and our guests were ELECTRIC. We can't wait until the next one... (hint hint). But on this weeks episode we dive into RHONY episode 2 and we find our ladies in the Hamptons for a girls trip. The recurring theme of the season is issues with the hosts food... Erin has a caviar catering company and it looks divine but all things considered, maybe offer a couple of other options... Jessel opens up about her sex life or lack thereof and everyone in the group turns into a sex therapist on the spot. Jenna brings the ladies some lingerie and we see some tensions start to rise between her and Jessel when Jessel doesn't particularly care for the lingerie. Then its off to Atlanta (or Portugal) and Drew is in tears over a seemingly small argument with Sheree. Come to find out the root of the issue is Ralph. Kenya slips and falls and takes Kandi to the ER with her... Then we get into a rumor regarding Drew and a potential hook up that she may or may not have been a party to with a woman named Latoya. All that and MORE on this weeks ep! Time Stamps: RHONY (21:06) RHOA (49:00) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Yeah, yeah, we'll be good. Let's record on Thursday. Everything's going to be fine. Like, yeah, no worries. Both of us just fucking dead today, just zombies. I am a shell of a human being. like an absolute shell and we had to come back from new york my daughter's in town so i wanted to get back so when uh she woke up because she stayed with my sisters last night so i wanted to get back so

she'd wake up and i'd be home so we drove back after the like after party um after the show our buddy is uh the creative director at this really cool speak easy and like head bartender and it's called and son free plug right here and it's called my our father study is the name of the speak easy upstairs one of the coolest bars i think i've been to in new york city oh yeah hands down the best burger i've had in 10 years easily that was i think it's so funny because you could be like yeah what was the highlight of the night it's like yeah the crowd was great um you know megan was an awesome guest to have emily killed it tom was such a great emce but that fucking burger i mean dude the burger was well that and that's i think that's probably the funniest part is

like when we did our we did our live show in philly in april you and i neither of us knew what to expect so we were like yeah whatever like we'll eat a little bit we'll do some like pizza whatever the pizza was trash that we had and then we went into the show and you don't realize like yeah you're you're up there you're doing so many different things like you're moving around you're talking there's a lot of focus there's a lot of like pressure and then when you finally get done you're like i am starving so ravenous like i that's like i wish i could take credit for it too because you, me and Zach, obviously, we sat down beforehand just to kind of go over the show and we had some lunch.

And you and Zach had like a very, very light lunch. And I had a salad pasta. Yeah, I know. You had pasta, but it actually was, I thought you were nuts because you had Casuali Pepe, which is all Parmesan and Pecorino Romano. That's it. That's what makes the sauce. I was like, you're going to feel like shit.

Lo and behold, carb loading was the right move because we didn't fucking eat for like eight more hours. Yeah, I think we had that at like 3, 3.30. and then we had our burger at like 11.30. Yeah, we ended up staying to like 2 a.m. drove home. But it was an absolutely incredible show. It was sold out.

We sold out New York City an away game on a Wednesday night. Like, it's just ridiculous to like look back and think about where we started, where we're at now. And that's a huge, huge shout out to our listeners, all of our supporters. I can't describe in words what live shows are actually like. The feeling of being up there is not comparable to anything else. Like, it's such a rush. The crowd, the energy was amazing. As you said, Megan King was, she was such a great guest.

She was so nice backstage. Like, she kicked it with us before the show, like literally just shooting the shit with me and this idiot. And Emily was amazing. Tom Hamlet was fucking his. And Zach Peter, as always brought the house to. I mean, the vibes on stage, everybody clicked. It was better than Philly, I think, and I thought Philly was outstanding.

So the boys are only going up, baby. We're just moving up. Every live show gets better and better and better. And you best believe, you best believe we're in the kitchen cooking for the next one, because I'm addicted. You already know we're coming to a city near you. Honestly, we'll just keep putting that out there because as soon as we ended just sitting in the back of the green room cleaning. up our stuff just kind of like decompressing just the first me you and zach yeah yeah the first thought

at least the first thing that came out of zach's mouth was all right where's next where we go where we we go next what do you think of and you know we're gonna breaking down some cities look we know and you know people get excited as we start talking about it we know boston is a pretty big hotbed but you know it's east coast still we want to start moving the uh moving the act west as you will you know it starts to move west a little bit dashville starts to move west a little bit you know what else is like further out there like shy town you know yeah shy town yeah the windy city um you know i'm not saying anything i'm just saying those are moving that way yeah no i know uh just kind of sliding out there and then you know obviously there's the west coast too um tapped resources out west we could always

just kind of go out there just kind of work our way back you know just be on the road red a van just drive around with lose who knows loz do you want to be our driver dude i will i would hire loz to be our driver to the West Coast, but no, it was a fucking amazing evening. The come down from the show, I do not drink alcohol anymore. This is the closest to hungover I can get. It's like, I think it's the adrenaline when you like get back down to earth. When you wake up, it legitimately feels like you get hit by a truck. And because we got back at like three, I fell asleep at like four.

I had to wake up at 6.30 to go pick up my daughter from my parents' house. and come home, and I didn't go back to sleep. So we finally crashed on the couch. We were watching, I don't even know what we turned on. I swear to God, we turned a movie on, and both my daughter and myself knocked out for like an hour and a half. I woke up texted you like, oh, shit, we've got to record this thing. And now we're here.

And here we are, just giving the people what they need. Because you know what? If you were there last night, obviously we appreciate it. Thank you for making the trip or, you know, just coming out in your own city. If you live in New York, it was a blast. thanks for coming out because honestly those shows are nothing without the fans if there were you know 10 people in there you know we'll try to bring the energy but when you sell out and everybody's there and everybody's jumping it up it it's just a fucking blast so thank you and if you

didn't come well like we said we might be at a city near you pay attention to the socials trust me but um let's get into it because we both need to go to sleep um um Don't get me wrong. I'm super excited to record the episode. It's nice, actually, to kind of decompress from the night before by a little breakdown the day after. And I want to start out with a quick Rosenthorn. I think we both are going to have the same rows, but I'm going to let you go first.

Oh, yeah. I mean, this is the thing about live show week. There's so much going on. It's not even like we didn't prepare for anything. It's just there's just nothing else that matters that week. Like obviously we're still doing the episode, but like nothing else. Matt, like last week talking to people, you know, trying to make plans for a weekend, going golfing, whatever.

You're just talking like, I don't really care. Honestly, once we get past the live show, then, you know, I'll get back to what I need to get back to. Life starts again, yeah. Exactly. But like, life has been on hold for the last week or two. So that's the rose. I mean, the rose is just, it's probably about two weeks, yeah.

Yeah, it's a two week hiatus from like life where you, I mean, you get two weeks out. You start to get like butterflies a little bit where it's like, oh, shit, we're getting close the week before you're really getting amped up and the three days leading up to it you can't think about anything else like it's all you're thinking about so yeah i think that's a collective rose right there is the live show obviously i got one thorn just because i'm in you know a good mood and i think this one's kind of funny just it's ironic it's ironic to me and i love ironic ones so on ticot it was on our video about um the rony reboot and somebody says watching housewives and whining about it behind a mic is silly to which i would say taking the

time to comment on a post about us whining about mics about housewives is even sillier you you goofy you big goof i'm even read your name evil tracy your name's evil tracy so yeah we know what you're doing there tracy we know what you're up to evil tracy nefarious things such as calling us whiny babies we'll be a whiny baby what i can't imagine what it was on like if it was we were only whining yeah it was about us we were actually talking we were talking about roney yeah we were positive well i guess yeah we were probably saying that all the other shows should be on notice but oh yeah even still i mean as far as whiny videos go we definitely have whineer videos oh there's some

whiny ones out there don't get me wrong i've whined a little bit on tic talk i'm not gonna lie about that. But that I didn't think was our winniest. But yeah, we're, we're a little, we need to go to a weenie hut general, apparently, because we're a bunch of whiny babies. Weedy Hut general. I didn't know the Wheatty Hut, uh, the restaurant opened the general store. No, weeny hut general, wasn't at the, what was the hospital? Oh, that was the hospital. Wow. That's a deep cut. Wow. I know my sponge bob. You just stuck us, you just snuck a little sponge bob by you. This is going to be a fucking show. we're off to the races baby but let's touch on the news a little bit um as we discussed last

night regarding vanderpump there's two things one ariana is a VIP guest on love island i don't know exactly what that entails we may need to get into love island we may i think we might have to i mean we had we had johnny de philippo from uh from the bachelor and talking to him and just kind of understanding how The Bachelor works. I actually watched like my first half of a Bachelor episode the other night. The Bachelor sucks. I'm sorry, but like, no, the Bachelor stinks. I'm not putting anybody down if you enjoy it, but it just didn't do anything for me.

It was just maybe it's because, you know what it honestly is? It's because we analyze all the Bravo shows and they are like, for the most part, real. And I feel like it's kind of, it's so funny when you juxtapose it to Bravo because Bravo seems way more real when you watch. the bachelor like you watch these guys cry because they didn't get a fucking rose and it's like all right are you sad because you love this girl or are you more likely sad because you have to leave the show and you don't get more exposure on camera like it's also interesting it's like they'll get engaged and not get married all the time and then they'll go to bachelor in paradise which is like the redemption series i will say this is going to sound like negative but it's a positive thing bachelor in paradise helped get me through rehab Okay. Every. Right. Wait, it's a positive.

That's my point. I told you how it was going to sound. But every Thursday night. Life could be worse. Like, yeah, totally good. Life could be way worse.

Like, we're sitting in rehab and, like, we get an hour of TV a day. Yeah. And we would save it on Thursdays because we all as a collective group of dudes in rehab would sit and watch Bachelor in Paradise together.

And that was like our big weekly thing. Yeah. And we actually, it was so funny. We had to, this is no joke. We had to pretty much petition because they aired one week during the finale. There was a Tuesday and a Thursday episode. Then they were both two hours long. And we needed to see what happened.

So we had to petition to our unit leader like, hey, we know it's only an hour of TV. We're not trying to break the rules. We're very invested in this season. We need two hours of TV Tuesday and Thursday. And we got it. We did get it. they let us watch it thank god but um that is my that's my only relationship with the bachelor but maybe we need to get into love island a lot of people seem to really like that show and

maybe we'll branch out a little bit i don't know i'll give us some feedback we we did talk about it yesterday uh and we were talking about the bachelor but but i my decision on the bachelor is just that it's it's bad tv it's just not enjoyable although i will say that the new one that's coming out with the 70 year old dude who looks great by the way go yeah golden bachelor i think that's going to be awesome so i might watch a little bit of that just to see what's going on but as far as ariana and love island i don't really know i guess probably because we don't watch it we don't really understand what kind of role she has but everything keeps popping up that she's a VIP guest she might just be there so she'll pop in i don't know is love island like fucking big brother do they do like challenges

and stuff is she going to we need to i don't know let's get let's let's do some digging and you are listeners holler at us and let us know should we dive into love island maybe do out a little bit from only bravo maybe we'll start dipping our toe in some other things such as levi land a lot of people seem to love this show yes um we're not above any tv we will try it like even the bachelor like we're not above it sean gave it a shot sean oh jesus right this is a full government yeah i hate that bleep let's that out in the post production i wonder if i can't oh that would be really funny um maybe we'll do love island i can let us know if you want us to dive into that universe i'm i'm not against it by any means but uh moving on from

there we had you got bethany or you want to go tom oh yeah bethany no i don't have to thompson's for vanderpump moving on from there back to vanderpump we're seeing a lot of people start to film with sandoval we're getting clips of like james and alley sitting down with him and a couple other people at dinner and we're getting scenes and pictures of like they're all at like top of Hoh, Sheena is arm and arm with them or whatever. I mean, it's a whole group of people. And you can, you can read into it a lot of ways, right? I think at the end of the day, we all need to understand and realize once again,

and I've had some differing opinions about this, I've had time to kind of like process it. It's a fucking TV show. At the end of the day, they're paid for TV. They have to film with the guy. Like, you have to film with them. So if you have issue or you're taking umbrage with people being on screen with them, you're having an issue with seeing people reconnect or seemingly just like, smooth things over ish it's going to happen there's going to be people in the next two or three

years he's going to rekindle a friendship or two i do actually believe that firmly do i think we're going to see that this season no i think it's still going to be contentious for the most part i think those scenes are probably relatively forced like you have to film a sandival sandival's going to be here sandival's going to be there they got to bite the bullet and do it because that that's their fucking job and also the paychecks this season have to be fucking massive yeah that and that's that's a big thing honestly like you said like if you have umbrage with it don't hold the people on the show to doing their job and get mad about it hold it against bravo for bringing him back right if you want to do that which i you know i don't agree with that either because obviously it makes for great tv because

we want to see him squirm we want to see him get yelled at more we want a lot more because we only got you know the reunion of one episode last year that we actually got him to face the music so we need to see him face the music because that's what we deserve as viewers we deserve a lot of his viewers you know um absolutely but if you want to hold somebody morally corrupt do it to bravo bravo's bringing back a guy obviously it makes sense business wise but morally yeah you don't bring back a guy who did all this because he's a scumbag so whatever there's no real issue that you need to have against this thing um i think it's going to be interesting to see i'm looking forward to vanderpump obviously because we're hearing a lot of rumblings out there i hope we don't get too many spoilers you know yeah with all that's going on

I know people like that. I know that you'd like to dig in and try to catch them, you know, like somebody took a video of them at Sir or they saw them out and around L.A. Like, whatever. Leave it alone. Let's just wait till the season starts and then we can get into it. I don't like having spoilers beforehand for reality shows or for real TV that I actually enjoy. Yeah.

So it just don't do that. And let's just let it play out so that we can enjoy it. Yeah. All right. Knock it off. You big spoilers. Yeah, sleuths. Yeah, you spoilers.

I don't know what. There's no other word for that. But the last thing I need to talk about because she had another video today. It knows about like Megan Markle. Bethany Frankel needs to be paused from her Instagram account. I can't see her anymore. I don't want to hear her talking about everything. I don't know why she feels it necessary to insert herself into every single thing.

And then she has opinions about Tamara. And look, we're not Tamara fans. by any stretch. Like, we know that she clamored to get back on OC. We know she was clawing, chomping at the bit to do it. Bethany has an opinion about that. It's like, dude, you're doing everything and anything to stay relevant here. And that brings me to the sag after a strike, right?

We know the writers are on strike. The actors are on strike. She brings it to the attention that reality stars should unionize and be on strike. Now, reality stars do not get residuals from their shows, which is bullshit. That's not fair. If they're running TV and they're running ads, adds through those reruns, then they should absolutely get paid. Like, that's ridiculous.

You're making money off of their name, image, and likeness. That's a no-brainer. Do I agree that they need to set something up in which they might be able to get returns? For sure. They're doing their job. They deserve to get paid, period. Do I think she's the face of this? Do I think that this is an amicable pursuit in which she's trying to be a superhero

and try to rally for the people? Fuck, no. I think this is an opportunistic grab to try to get back in the spotlight. We see that with the outrageous videos that are coming out. now she's sucking down some crab meat and she's talking on the camera because i have to make it as gross as it was like i hated watching that video i can't believe it's still up they should like you know when you watch on it uh instagram and it's like warning and it's like kind of blurred over and you have to click like watch anyway when it's like yeah they should have had they should have done

that for that video i don't want to see that shit but clearly to me it's not she's not in the righteous pursuit. She's not trying to actually make things better. I think she's just trying to use this as an opportunity to get back some screen time, keep her face out there, keep relevancy. And I think that's bullshit. Yeah, no, I think you're right. But even if she was trying to do something like out of, like, I don't know, like out of the good of her own heart, if you will, it does make sense, like you said, like these people on reality shows deserve residuals. People are going back, especially in Peacock now. Everything's on demand. Everything's so easy. to get they deserve residuals if people are going back and watching stuff like i just throw people out

there like jacks or doty or something from vanderpum when sandoval went through all of that how many people went back and rewatch vanderpum there must have been like close to like a million people that went back and fully rewatch vanderp those people who were featured in those shows should still be getting paid for that like that makes a lot of sense i think what she's doing now whether she's doing it just kind of like manically going from thing to thing to thing to try to just like show her face in different places is besides the point if you're going after one thing that makes sense that you actually want done in this case it's trying to rally housewives trying to rally reality tv stars to get into some sort of what's the fucking word union union yeah thank you wow uh yeah

to try to get into some fucking union that's great and that's awesome but everything else that you're doing around this is discrediting that so when people turn back they say oh wow like bethany made a really good point but she also had 17 videos where she's sucking down crab legs and sounding crazy so now that the 18th video even if it's good it gets discredited because nobody wants to hear from her anymore nobody cares

they just think that she's going crazy and she obviously has an issue and we've seen her talk out about the new Vroni cast we've seen her talk about it like you said Tamara it just sounds like she's grabbing she's grabbing she just wants attention and you can't have a real cause that you're standing up for in the middle of you going for attention

grabs it doesn't work that's a really good point that it loses its credibility here yeah that yeah absolutely but i probably could have said that like a little more succinctly but just everybody needs to bear with us today all right yeah we're going to have a couple of words salads our brains are mush you know that i couldn't remember this is your drug this is your drug on eggs holy shit yeah this is your drug on eggs egg drug this is your brain on drugs you'll crack the egg what the fuck this is your drug on eggs Oh, my God. Let's just clean break.

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Episode two, I didn't think it was a banger. Did I enjoy it? For sure. I enjoyed myself. I think it's interesting that they're sticking with the food route, apparently. I don't know if that's necessary, but I like it. I do like it. I like the cast, even the people I don't necessarily love.

i.e. Jessel and I still understand what they're bringing to the screen. I know I think Cy's getting a pretty decent response from the audience overall. I think Jessel is getting a kind of mixed review response from just comments and stuff that I've been reading. But let's start

it out. Or actually before we do like what were two episodes in, how do you feel about it thus? I feel the same. I mean, obviously like last week I thought it was a people came for us, but I thought it was a smashing success. I thought that it was good. It felt fresh. It just felt good. um yeah look we kind of expected there was going to be a letdown somewhere whether it's because of

the setting whether it's because of the cast whether brin not being there is kind of part of it there we don't really know yet you know like if this was maybe season two season three and we we kind of know how everything works and we can point to one thing as to why this episode was down it's you know brin's absence because brin makes everything go okay that makes sense or all right we shouldn't have had them in the hamptons because there's not a lot going on and they're kind of just still getting comfortable with each other that makes sense to me too i honestly think that probably both of us are kind of looking at this show right now from an op i'm optimist perspective just saying like okay like yeah it wasn't bad i wasn't bored it just didn't have a whole lot of substance

um now i will say graded like it's going to be graded a little bit more strict only because it's number two i think that if this is an episode like you said like season seven of a show you were just like huh yeah it was fine it's whatever it was like another week you know what i mean mean yeah and like you said like kind of going back to the food route which i don't know if that was organic or inorganic but it it just doesn't seem like there's enough there like we do we do need to get in some like palpable drama which it seems like towards the end of the episode we kind of do get into when uh jessel just kind of like goes on a rant and it's like all right you're you started off okay but i like that and that's a good thing like we kind of do need something

like that but uh i mean with this episode in particular i thought that it was good because we are still getting to learn who these women are kind of what makes the right exactly and we need that and i thought that what we got from this obviously one it was very interesting because i'm now under the assumption that all hampton's houses look the same because when they walked into errands house like oh it's a fucking summer house all right cool like i'm pretty sure kyle stayed there like two or three years ago i'm pretty sure i recognize that house yeah they had the downgrade from five bedrooms to four bedrooms because they couldn't do that but the coolest thing is and She remains the coolest, coolest chick ever.

It goes to Jenna Lyon spot in the Hamptons, who's richer than all of them probably. She's got a fucking 1,500 square foot, like, little lofty looking cool, edgy little spot in the Hamptons. Of course she does. Of course, she has 1,500 square feet, and she's totally content with it. And she pulls up in an old school Mercedes-Benz. Like, she's just so fucking cool. And she also has already told us she hates hosting. She does not like it when there's too many people.

round she likes one-on-ones she likes to be with like one or two people so she can really get to know them otherwise she feels like she kind of blends into the background that she doesn't really get to show her actual personality which i think by the end of the season she'll step it up a little bit when she's around the whole crew but yeah of course she has a 1500 square foot place in the hampins because she's not going to have more than one or two other people there no she's content she doesn't need more than that i love that that's great dude she's dope um but let's get into it we uh we see them packing, which is, I don't care if you're an influencer, that was ridiculous. That was absolutely insane, borderline embarrassing.

If you're going to pack, that it's three days. Yeah. Like, it's three days. She brought enough clothes for a month, dude. And I'm not trying to, like, knock anybody. I get it. If you want to make outfit changes, I know you got to pack some extra shit. I get that you're on TV.

You want to look your best. I'm not knocking that. There was wardrobe bags. There was actual luggage. The whole back of an escalator. like extended escalator Tahoe suburban whatever the fuck that was was filled to the brim for three days for three people it's so funny because honestly like I like like you said like I get it like you're a content creator you're in fashion you want to make sure that you look good you have all these outfits you want to take pictures blah blah blah whatever I respect that I respect that entirely however she did start to annoy me throughout the episode with the whole content creating thing like there's no need for you to sit at dinner in the middle of this nice restaurant and complain like oh no the picture of this martini's wrong like first off that's i think at this point social media one-on-one you don't take pictures of your fucking drink anymore loser like that's just not like people

did that when instagram first dropped in like 2011 it's like oh yeah like my first post on instagram which you can probably go see right now was a plate of wings and a beer and i'm like yeah and you get like you got to get the angle you know yeah and i put some like rainy fucking filter on it like but that's what i was thinking the whole time i'm like you're an actual content creator you want to do this don't take a picture of your martini nobody gives a shit take a picture of yourself take a picture of the ambience take a picture of what's going on take a picture of the fucking sunset for all i care the other ladies at the table like night out with the girls oh my god oh my god yeah i wasn't kidding that's shooter's first post that's fucking great you weren't

three likes three likes three two no sorry i was two likes three comments and it is in fact a plate of wings and a Sierra Nevada pale ale with a grainy filter at the white border around the frame yep and you added somebody that one comment is you and you added somebody perfect at at somebody that's that's at somebody that's I love early days of Instagram the early days of Instagram and that's what I felt when she was doing this when she was taking a picture of a martini I'm like nobody cares like this is annoying now I don't like I get what you do that's great but you don't see Jenna sitting over there commenting on everybody's outfits that walk by

and trying to give them like fashion tips on fucking Jay Crew. It's like that doesn't make any sense. Just leave it alone. Take a couple of pictures, but don't be annoying about it. Like I get it. You want to take pictures with your friends? That's fine. But don't constantly say, well, I'm a content creator. So I got to make sure that these pictures are great. It's like we fucking know. It's 2023. We know

what content creators are. We know what influencers are. They're everywhere. They're all over the place. Kudos to you genuinely for being able to make a living off of it. That's awesome. You get to like promote your own life and people pay. for it. Great. Seriously. That's not easy to do, especially in this saturated market. We don't need to be told what you're doing. We get it. We understand the premise of a social media content creator. But they're driving to the house and Aaron's setting up for everybody

to come over and she, I do think this is a strong move. I think this is very presumptuous to be like, I'm only getting caviar because caviar is not for every. It is very, it is very rich. I would have been. Exactly. You know what I mean? Like a lot of people would be like what the fuck we're only having caviar that being said it was like four in the afternoon before dinner should she had more snack options yeah but i don't i just the the level of complaining about the caviar got a little ridiculous like the girls are in the car like fake gagging and like yeah that i agree with that and all that stuff like but i do have an issue with it i get like you're going from the york to the hamptons which is like a on a friday or whatever the hell it's a three hour

drive but they were snacking in the car yeah i know but still you just want like a little bit more like put some sort of meat out there just like meat and cheese plate always hits that way i will eat a ton of shit well shit last week the meat or the cheese plate caused the whole thing so yeah careful with cheese then just eat the meat or whatever like and i get like uba with her dietary restrictions she wants to go get a fucking sandwich from a deli and go to yeah get provision whatever she made me want to go to provision she sold me i was like this place has to be great she will not stop talking about it yeah it's a great name right it's a great but yeah so i i do understand that i think it was honestly well i think we learned two things

better and like one i think it was a bad move to only have caviar you should definitely have some other options there just to keep people at least like okay until seven o'clock dinner because even seven o'clock dinner you're sitting down in the hamptons there's no rush there nobody fucking moves quickly so everybody's going to slide around you're going to get a couple of drinks you're not going to actually eat so closer to eight like there's a long time there need some carbs you need some carbs just to hold you over and otherwise you're going to get otherwise you're going to get some hangary people and I you know what I'm I'm a big hangary guy if I don't eat I know you are too if you don't eat you start

getting a little upset about things so just giving some food but what I will also say is I think Aaron handled it well for all the complaining that was going on for all the bitching and moaning that was going on about Barry Caviar and obviously Uber going out to go get her own thing which the funny thing is Uber was just like normal about it. Hey, I'm not going to eat that. I'm going to go get my own food. It's like, okay, whatever, go get your own food. Didn't cause a scene. Great. Didn't cause a scene. No, but the other women were sitting there complaining about it and complaining about it and complaining about it. And Aaron kept her cool. Look, Aaron had people at her house in the Hampton. She was really excited to have people

there. I'm happy that, you know, obviously, who was it? Cy or Jessel that had to go in the kids room? Uh, that was Jessel had to go to the kids room. Yeah, Jessel had to go to the kid's room. There was no real room complaining either, which I thought was nice. sigh complained always do you have a bigger room this isn't going to work for me that i don't like i'm not a big sigh fan i'm not after this episode she wasn't my favorite she did complain about the room she didn't in that like fake joking way where it's like you're not actually kidding you're actually upset about the size of a closet in a guest room at a guest house like at somebody's maybe if you didn't bring 15 fucking bags that's what i'm saying you can't get upset because you brought

your entire closet yeah and she doesn't have space for it like that's not fair but yeah that's a good point. Jenna gets to the house and the dill issue comes up. I firmly agree. Dill sucks. Dill is a terrible, terrible herb. I don't like it. I only use it when people want it. Like when I do private events, if people want a like a dill dish, I'll do it. I don't eat dill. I think it's overpowering. I think it ruins your palate for the rest of the evening. It just, it's too strong. Jenna is totally right. I love the pring. I've had a pringle with caviar. And it is weirdly a very satisfying pair. I love Pringle. I saw I'm time with that. I know. So for side

of shit on the Pringle, like, oh, you're going high and low. It's like, dude, come on. She got a catering caviar company. You know that shit's expensive. You cannot shit on her because the company is like we're trying a bunch of new things. We put caviar on a Pringle. I've had

caviar on a Pringle. It's fucking great. So that's weird when she takes digs at like, but I guess that's kind of what we want. You know, like that upper, like high society part of the house that's the part that i struggle with where i do want that but it still is going to bother me in some capacity yeah i'm going to get annoyed but also we do kind need that because if everybody just goes copesthetic and everybody just having a good time the

whole time we're going to need something more so we do need to kind of tow that line at some point but i'm still okay this early on just kind of getting to know everybody instead of you know forcing people and and having them complain about pringles i would rather grow or kind of how it is or seemingly is. I'm okay with it starting a little slow, I guess is what I'm saying. Like this episode not being a bangor I'm okay with because I wanted to grow. We both have talked about it at length even before the show aired. We don't want forced drama.

We refuse forced drama. So the fact that they're not pushing it too hard, I actually like the fact that it's slower. But I do need to ask you, I feel like Aaron is trying to make it seem as though her and Jenna are like this. I do not think they're that tight. The way she talks about Jenna, it's like, oh, I know Jenna better than everybody. Like, I wish she would, like, come out of her shell, like be herself.

It's like, I don't think you're actually that tight with her. I think you're trying to be. I think you want to be. But I think this is, again, like a Beverly Hills, Diana Jenkins scenario where as soon as Diana Jenkins got on the scene, Lisa Rina was right up her ass. Yeah, I think that's a good point. And look, maybe she is tight with her

and because we know how Jenna is, where Jenna is not coming out of her shell in a big group we're not really seeing it as much but if you truly are tight with somebody you're not going to keep boasting about it either in person or in your confessionals so i do understand like there there's got to be some reasonable doubt there where you're thinking well stop talking about it like now you're starting to make me think that you're actually not tight with her because you're talking about it too much so i i do think there is some of that in there i don't want to completely discredit it and say that she's not because she could be and maybe that's just how she is and

she's boastful, which also would make sense as a houseland. I think it's a farce. Yeah, I mean, it could be. Honestly, like time will tell and we'll be able to see because in the future, I'm sure, we'll have a couple of one-on-one scenes with just the two of them. We'll be able to see how close they actually are. If it's still just like that surface level bullshit, then we'll know right away. But she, like, I'm back and forth on.

So she moved up on my power rankings. So she went from like bottom. I think she's at three now. Honestly, I and Jessel are four and five, respectively. but she moved up because of how she rolled with the complaints. She didn't let it ruin her night. She didn't let it, like, put her in a bad mode. She just called out how ridiculous it was and just kind of was like,

whatever. I'm not dealing with this shit. Like even more so at dinner when, you know, Jenna needs her dreamy coffee and can't have regular coffee. What is, what is dreamy coffee? I don't know, but it sounds wonderful. I don't know, me too. As soon as she said, I was like, ooh, what does that?

Because that sounds delightful. I could actually, I might make a cup of decat that to this. That sounds nice, but... I don't think that's what Dreamy Coffee is, but all right. It's not. I'm just saying I'd coffee sounds good, no. But we go back to earlier in the episode a little bit. We're jumping around, but that's fine.

And we get to find out that Jessel has not had sex for two years at this point, since the kids were born, the twins. And I'm not trying to throw shade here at all. All right. So I guess I'm treading lightly, but not really. when they ask her like are you at least giving blow jobs she's like oh yeah yeah no nope if you haven't banged in two years i don't think that there's there's extracurriculars happening frequently i'm sorry yeah i i thought it was weird i mean i think this is again this is just going to be like

alerting curve for a lot of these women a lot of times when you bring up sex and the fact that you haven't had sex in a little while they hold on to that and they're not oh that's they hit it they hammered the shit home to the point where i actually started feeling bad for at the end i was like guys like we get it leave her alone a little bit because she's probably a little subconscious about it like yeah i mean you don't want to keep talking about it and talking about and talking about it because maybe that maybe if it wasn't an issue to begin with it now is so just kind of like leave her alone but also that's kind of on jessel for giving up that information in the first place again though it is a housewife show so you know you kind of want them to be be vulnerable

with their actual lives and i i do appreciate that so i i will err on the side of appreciating that jessel did share that on live tv on you know yeah in a car with these women And so that's cool. But I will take some points away from the other women who just kept hounding her and hounding her and hounding her because that's just not going to work. But I think like you said, it's a learning curve, right? Like they're going to learn, they're trying to play the game the right way. So they find out some drama. They're trying to like hammer it home a little bit.

They're like, ooh, this might be good. I think that's good. Kind of what we're seeing a little bit is like learning how to take some information and then use it to your benefit on the show. And I think that's going to take a little time. You've got to get seasoned. I think they're going to learn which ones are going to really hit and which ones are more of a kind of a one-off. Like, let's talk about it and move on. I think that's just going to be a growing pain of a new cast.

For sure. But moving on, and this is also like a knock on Aaron again. Like, you know, so they show up empty-handed and she goes, you never show up to a house empty-handed. Cut to last week, she walks into Jenna Lyons place empty-handed, didn't bring anything. Because it was raining, which is not an excuse. So like, here's where I'm like, and again, it goes back to the I was joking comment last week when she called somebody about the cheese. It just seems to me that she's kind of, she says what people want to hear or she says what she thinks people like us, the audience want to hear. I don't know.

It doesn't seem genuine in those moments. But then you have the moments where she's cool, calm, and collected after everyone's being annoying about the food. I'm like, all right, there's a good housewife here. And I think that I will end up liking Aaron more so. Like I said, she's already moved up two notches on my power ranking. So I'm excited to see what the future holds for. It's just like it's like two steps forward, one step back. But always.

Let's keep going. They're all at the house and they're kind of shooting the shit. We're learning a little bit more about these women. We start to talk about Jenna's mom. I guess she passed away six weeks ago from when this was filmed and had battles. a sickness for eight months. We ended up starting to get better. And then it was a quick decline and ended up passing away. We end up also finding out that she was not very close with her due to her mom being diagnosed late in life with Asperger's. Right. Which is really like,

and I mean this respectfully, just intriguing to, you know, who Jenna Lyons the person is. I think that I would like to hear more about this in a respectful manner. I think it's just kind of a unique scenario that you don't really get to hear about. And I think that it's really cool that she's willing to share that information on TV. And I would like for her to speak on it because I'm sure that there's a lot of people out there, whether it's parents or children or brothers or sisters or whomever that can probably relate to that. And we love when these women are vulnerable enough to put themselves out there. So I think that she could do a lot of good with that storyline if she wants to pursue it, but I also, I'm curious what her route's going to be because we learn

that she is dating somebody, but is refusing to announce who that is, like, she won't disclose that information, which is I don't like that. I get, it's one of those things that, and that's, I think that's one of the hardest aspects of watching these shows is trying to separate real people from reality TV. And in, if you're giving me like the logical choice here, sure, yeah, whoever she's dating, she's always felt guarded when she's dating somebody maybe it goes back to when she was outed when she was dating that girl for a couple of weeks i can't imagine right and that that would be a good reason to not want to talk about it like you got outed by the post like yeah i'm not sharing my personal life

i get that that's totally fair and reasonable it's just it's such a weird line to tiptoe now because she's on the housewife show you know and i and i think that's the problem too and i think that's where we're going to get a lot of people that are split on it because yeah maybe maybe her partner isn't maybe her partner is in a similar situation that she was in a couple of years ago when she was out in the post. And maybe she doesn't want to quite do it. So we don't want that.

We want people to kind of go at their own speed, figure out what they want to do. The partner maybe just didn't sign up for this and she understands that. So she's protecting them. I get it. I guess, yeah, I kind of land where you are where it's like, look,

you signed up for a reality TV. You should be able to tell them. But at the same time, I think the problem is that I like Jenna a lot and I want her to do well, that as soon as sigh steps in and she goes, well, she's met my husband. It's like, yeah, but your husband is somebody that you've married, you have kids with that we're going to see on the show who you probably consulted with

about the show. And he said, sure, that sounds like a good idea. Get on the show. And as we know from talking to other husbands, like, yeah, you didn't really sign up for a lot of this and you know, you're not getting paid directly by Bravo, but you still have to show a lot of your life. It's really tough. I do understand if a partner wants to stay away from this.

Like, that makes a lot of sense to me after hearing. a lot of people talk about it so that's where i'm kind of leaning but again it is a reality tv show you should share as much as you possibly can and i think what i might at the end of this episode how i kind of felt about it it's the second episode i think that we will get everybody kind of fully out of their shell at some point and we'll be able to know what's going on and honestly if by the end of the season jen is still kind of guarding things uh you know we're not really learning a whole lot about everybody it's just kind of like that surface level whatever every week we might have to have Bravo step in and just say look you need to share more you're on

this show for a reason you need to figure it out we need to know more about you you need to actually get into these personal conversations and be willing to share your personal life with the audience that's the whole point of the show so it might just need some tinkering but i'm going to let it simmer because it's only episode too yeah no i agree with that and again it's a touchy subject for sure and we're not here to say i can't imagine getting outed by the fucking new york post that's insane that's horrible like so yeah obviously you're going to have some scar tissue there and understandably so it's a it's a weird line because yeah you're on reality tv we need to know about your life at the same time it's a very real backstory of why you don't want to share

that part of your life and like that's it's very again it's a tough line but um let's move on and they get to to dinner um after the lingerie talk but that kind of ties into the dinner because the main conversation about dinner is jessel and her sex life and uh everybody's got an opinion everybody has it figured out and she says that she's self-conscious because of her C-section scar and they've just never kind of what do they break the seal was the term used. Yes. Yeah. Break the seal. And look, I can't imagine what it's like to have a C-section scar. We'll never understand that. And I'm not going to speak like I do understand that. And I would imagine that if you're self-conscious about it, then having sex after having a child would be difficult.

And I understand that your body goes through so many changes. I do a lot of postpartum training at the gym. There's a lot of things that you have to work through. Your body goes through hell and your hormones are crazy. You have to get back to balance. And it's a really difficult process that you and I never have to go through. So like speaking on, it's next to impossible. However, I think that for her to be vulnerable enough to talk about it,

and open up about it. And then for everybody in the group to have an opinion on how to fix it without being sentimental about it or showing any kind of simply, like just get on his dick and ride. It's like it's not that simple or they would have done that. You know what I mean? And like, I'm not a big Jessel fan.

But at the same time, she gave you the info. She's talking about it. And she's also not clapping back at all of you for having an opinion about it. But let's maybe lighten the fuck up. Like, talk to her as a friend. like okay how do you think you can move past that what have you guys tried have you tried anything can we help you through this instead of just put a sash over it just do this it's not

clearly it's not that easy or they would have done that you know what i mean yeah i think i think that's a good point and i think that you can you don't even have to look at this like oh yeah they're not that comfortable with each other yet they're not this and that like if i'm not comfortable with somebody yet i am not going to tell them hey you just need to start fucking like that's not that is certainly not where i'm going to go immediately i you know i'll either just kind of give them the space to talk and just figure out like where they are or you give them actual advice and don't just do that. And I think that that's part of it where these women are just, you know, they're on TV for the first time. They're just going to kind of like go off

and just start yelling random things. And they're not really considering Jessel's feelings on the matter. Like yeah, they haven't had sex in two years. There might be something else at work here. Maybe she's, you know, whatever's going on there is something that's going on in their marriage. if she's bringing this up now i think personally she brought this up for a reason maybe she does want advice maybe she wants help maybe she wants people to kind of like chime in but this is not the help that she needs it's it just doesn't fucking help because that's not how it works like no you should be able to sit down and just be like hey have you gone to like a therapist to talk about this right is it a big issue with the two of you if you want to do this have you

talked about it have you done this or that not hey just jump on his dick and like figure it out Like, hey, get in that sexy lingerie that you're going to have out there and just, you know, wear it home and just see how it goes. Like, no, that's just not the fucking answer. You need to figure this out from a different standpoint. And she's coming to you guys for help and you're not giving her help. You're just yelling things. It just doesn't work that way. Yeah.

And you know what? I think that it kind of explains at the end, you know, I thought she was being an asshole about the lingerie. You know, she didn't like her lingerie and she had a lot to say about it. A couple of the other women, Uber had something to say about hers. at the end of the day it was a gift to you by jenna right you don't have to wear this shit after this evening like i've gotten plenty of clothes for christmas for birthdays that i don't like i don't open it and go what the fuck is this i'm not gonna wear this this is hideous this makes me look awful blah blah blah and that's the thing is she yeah she put it on and then went throughout

the house and kept yelling about it and like at first i kind of agreed with her i was like yeah that does kind of suck like if it's unflattering and you don't like it like that's one thing, but you can't wear it around the house and then keep talking trash on it to the person that gave it to you, like, no, what you do is you wear it, you look in the mirror and say, you know what, this isn't for me. It just doesn't fit right. It feels weird. Take it back off. Put on your fucking pajamas and go downstairs and just be like, yeah, you know what, I tried it on the fit just wasn't right. Um, you know, maybe I can get it taken in. And then you don't get it taken in. You just fucking live it in a box. It just never wear it again. Like that's the way to go

about it. You don't fucking, you don't carry a tirade like a two year old. and starts screaming about it. As an insult, that's how she takes it, as though Jenna was trying to, like, throw shade at her. And I don't think she was at all. I think she was like, oh, this will be fun. I'm going to buy lingerie for all these ladies. It's my, it's her first girl's trip.

And the fact that she's trying to do things that are quote unquote girl trippy, like, I bought us all lingerie. It's cute. Here's yours. Here's yours. That's nice. Like, take it for it. It is a gift.

You don't have to fucking wear it after tonight. Like, don't cause a scene. However, that's when I was like, oh, here we go. Okay. Jenna's clearly unhappy with it. Jessel legitimately stomps up the stairs while saying, I hate it. I hate it.

Like she's like throwing a tantrum like a teenager. Now we're getting into it a little bit. Now we're starting to see a little bit of a divide. And I do think that when push comes to shove, I think Jessa will be able to hold her own. I'm curious to see how Jenna goes off because I would imagine she's very polished from the media. She's been in the limelight, right? She goes to the Met Gala every year.

like she's she's a person she's a big name so i'm curious to see how she's going to respond when the drama starts falling like i don't know i i think she's just going to be quiet i think that she's just that's going to be fully timid and not say anything and then like i don't know episode three or four she's going to have a mental fucking breakdown and start crying because of this tirade that happened here's the flip side when asked about you know episode one just like i would have loved to have worked with you she's like ask anybody that's worked for me if they loved it so now i'm like okay are we going to see that person come out i hope so lost jena where she's like oh i don't take this shit from anybody i'm about to put you in your

place that's what i want to see am i confident we're going to get that no i'm no not at all the polished like press answer media answer but we're getting some some rumblings i'm excited to see what happens agreed that takes us to atlanta and i like this episode um i like this season and I love trips. I love that we're in Portugal still. I have no real issues with it. It's so funny because I accidentally texted Zach in the group today. I thought I was just texting you.

I texted you both. I was like, are we doing Atlanta and Roney tonight? And Zach responded quickly. Atlanta sucks this season. And I was like, I guess it has to be just a perspective thing. We haven't seen the other one. So maybe if we'd seen every season, we'd be like, oh, this is brutal. But we enjoy, I enjoy it.

still i i definitely enjoyed it um look i i will start this off this recap off by saying it feels so good to be right about drew and oh i know like obviously we knew everybody knew that they got divorced and there was like a tumultuous split and obviously they were like racing to get the fucking divorce filed and everything hilarious um but last week we did say it's really fucking weird that drew's crying about this like shire yeah shiree was wrong and she started going off about random things that you just don't go off about and she honestly she just put her foot her mouth because then people started talking about she by shiree and we find out that she did take everything back after the reunion so if she had just left everything alone we wouldn't know about that

and you would be fine instead she kept digging and digging and digging but i don't think that she ever said anything wrong to drew that would have invoked that kind of emotion from her and instead we got drew crying and you and i talked about it last week and we said look it looks like there's a lot more going on here it looks like this ralph stuff is starting to creep in and we don't know about it because maybe Drew doesn't get a whole lot of camera time compared to her co-stars. So we're not really seeing everything happen. I think that Drew's getting a lot of play.

She is. She is this year. She is this year. But like it's not out in the open. Like I think, I personally what I think is after, obviously after the season wrapped, we knew that Drew and Ralph split.

Yes. I'm not see, I haven't been seeing like hints of that like Bravo kind of up their production and they're editing to make it look worse and worse and worse. I think we're just seeing. the real story here and I think that you and I just kind of put it together that she was crying because of that and we start off the episode confirmation rate that in there she goes from yeah you know it's it's a thousand dollar dispute and blah blah blah and we I forget exactly who said

it but uh I think Kenya Kenya goes how much is a thousand dollars a ways yeah exactly which is like even I was like that's not the point of it I do get that like we find out that it wasn't just it's not that she was sitting in court it's not that she's dealing with this and she's being like blackmail or anything she just starts talking about ralph and she starts talking about how the manager in the music video was rubbing oil on her on his skin and making them look good and they were flirting and then she wanted to fly them out to Vegas to go do this whole thing and there's all this other stuff going on like for her to go from you were just yelling at me about a thousand dollar dispute that i have to deal with and everybody just kind of wrote

it off like that that that's fucking nothing for her to go from that immediately to the ralph thing that's confirmation right then and there we know what's going on on. This is why, this is why Drew is going through it and we're actually seeing this in real time. We were right. That's all I can say. We were spot on. There's nothing more to say. We were spot on. Spot on, sir. Nostradamus. Nostradamus. Nostradamus. We haven't been Nostradamai in a minute. So I like that. Welcome back. But the next thing is Kenya actually points out. And I agree with her. And I don't love Kenya, but I did agree. Candia is checked out. She, and I'm not saying not rightfully so.

I do understand that she's running a million different companies and she has her music career and her producing career. Like she does everything, right? She does film, music, food, clothes. Like, she's got her hand in everything. So I get it, you're on the show. You are a real housewife. You have to show up. Like, you need to show up.

And when you do, you have to be present more so than a fight every third week that gets brushed off. pretty fucking quickly. Like you need to be part of the conversation and she's really not. And that's a bummer because I like Candy. I want to see her getting the mix more. And I'm glad Kenney called her out. And I'm glad that candy even took it. You know, she went to her confessional.

She's like, I know. And if these ladies tell me they don't want to hang out with her anymore, like, I get it. I would say the same shit. So at least she's self-aware about it. But at the same time, that's almost more damning because it's like, well, you get it. But you're still not 100% there. Yeah. I like that

and this is kind of I think a precursor for what's going to happen I like that we're seeing a bit of a split we're seeing a divide and it almost is happening like organically it's almost happening at the exact same time where you start to see that Courtney's kind of stepping up a little bit and she's

talking to Marlowe and defending Marlowe we'll get to the Courtney thing that was fucking hilarious and and we'll like Courtney's kind of standing up for herself and she's realizing that you know maybe Shire is getting some shit maybe Marlowe's getting some shit from these women like I'm going to stand up for myself because that's not what I want to do. And in that same moment that you're seeing kind of a team form on the other

side against Kenya mostly, you start to see that Kenya is calling out candy and she doesn't really want to do it. She's apprehensive to do it. But she's forced to talk about it because once you bring it up, oh yeah, Kenya said this about candy, you know candy's going to say what the fuck did you say? Like just tell me right now. What did you actually say? And that's kind of where we start to go between Kenya bringing up how Candy's kind of checked out from the whole show from hanging out with everybody to Drew just straight up calling out Candy for lying later

like we're seeing that whole team just split and look I think I think Candy can stand on her own and handle everything fine and like yeah maybe it's because she's a little checked out but I think it's also because she's seasoned she's the longest tenured housewife at this point she knows how to play it

and she knows to just kind of let these things roll off of her and that's great I don't think that she ever needed the team I think that what we need to see obviously Drew's going through her shit so I'll be kind of sensitive about that and just kind of let her kind of get through it I have a soft spot for Drew honestly I do too

just because of what's going on but I need to see Kenya stand on her own because I don't think she can't I think I like that I need I need Kenya on her own I need Kenya without Drew to start just talking over her without like Manetta's kind of distancing herself a little no Manetta she was

and then when they started talking at the table and the DMs come back up about like Marlowe Mnietta jumps very quickly at Marlowe and goes and you know I didn't they weren't even talking about it yeah she brings it up like I don't appreciate how you just like brought out the DMs when she showed everybody Roy I thought that was much more organic than Kenya forcing it because what's his face Martel had DM'd Kenya two years prior right didn't even have the DM on record like at least Marlow had it she had the receipt and it came up because she's like oh my god is that roy i went on a date with him i'm like that seems pretty genuine of a moment to me and then to actually have the receipt

but you haven't you don't have an issue with kenya who brought up a two-year-old receipt that she didn't even have yeah that's like that i get out of her ass maybe it's it's not as much man yet because she also doesn't have as much power on the show anyway but i i i do want to just see kenya kind of have to stand on her own and not have people backing her up well she She starts pissing people off. Yeah, I know. Yeah, because she fell. How fucking hilarious, by the way, are the optics of the Portuguese slippery whim wet sign?

It's a fucking banana. I thought it was so fucking fun. Awesome. The foreshadowing there was brilliant. It was perfect. Like a banana beel, like, and then she hits the deck. It's just so fucking funny. But yeah, I mean, we can honestly, we can just get right into that too.

When Kenya goes down, I, my first thought was she landed on because you know how they always have those microphone things like the boxes taped to their back. Oh, you thought she landed on the box. That thing must fucking kill. She didn't get on her butt. I know. She laid it right on her ass. But that thing, I thought that she landed on that and I was like, oh, that fucking that would like that could. That'll break a fucking vertebrae in a heartbeat. But yeah, she lands on her ass and then out of nowhere.

Was it necessary to go before I know where you're going and I can't wait to get to that part and I'll let you do it. But he didn't need to stretch her. no no she's grabbing her back she makes it this whole thing and I'm like all right dude like did it hurt yeah was it embarrassing probably you acted like you fell off the second story and landed there like you slipped and landed on your ass it sucks I'm sure it's gonna leave a pretty big bruise that was ridiculous that was too much no that was I mean that was absolutely too much and right as completely out of fucking left field with Courtney who has been through a wild season of being maybe the most annoying character I've ever seen in the first couple of episodes, just screaming and yelling in a high-pitched noise that I had to turn the TV down to now this, just sitting there with Drew at the bar after Kenya falls. Kenya is actually actively getting stretchered into the ambulance as we're going on.

And Courtney just goes right after it goes, you know, when the universe has a, or the universe has a strange way of forcing things when it's necessary. That is wild. And you know what it is like the I was I was just wondering like why like I get like yeah Kenya kind of gets on people's nerves and she does this and that whatever This is all because fucking Kenya when Courtney touched her made such a big scene and now Courtney's like well fuck that You just fell on your ass right after that do I think that she deserves to fall? No do I think that she has been a mean girl to Courtney. I really do she's she doesn't give her the time a day she seems like she's above her like she doesn't have time for it because she's she's she's Kenya. and she's not going to talk to like somebody lesser than her and Courtney's like the friend of she's new like she doesn't seem like she's giving her any respect so yeah I understand why Courtney feels scorned did I see this coming fuck no not at all the best part is like she says that kind of it's a little bit ambiguous right like the universe has a way of forcing things you can read into that you know what she's saying but it is slightly open door she fucking doubles down pretty much karma's a bitch like But that I, like, I've never seen that.

And I think that she just assured herself as a spot for the next year or two in one fucking line. With that one line, like, yeah, maybe if she was still as annoying as she was in the first couple episodes and then she dropped that, I might feel a little differently. But I feel like she's been doing pretty well recently and having her own thing go on. Like, if she wants to start a fucking beef with Kenya, I'm for it. Like, that's awesome. Like, what a way to go where we saw in the beginning like, yeah, Courtney's kind of talking about this and talking about this. And then she's stepping back. Like, no, she says that immediately.

And not to Marlowe who would laugh at that. Not to Tray, who would, you know, try to explain it a little bit more, whatever. She says it to Drew, and Drew's just like taken back. Like, what the fuck? But what did you just say? When Drew wants to play the family card, she does, right? Like when she wants to lean into, oh, she's my cousin, like she's very quick to be like, we defend family, like, how are you going to talk about my family like this?

But if it's against Kenya, then she has an issue with it. She can't just let that roll. And she's going to go, she's going to snitch. She's going to snitch on her cousin. I get that, but it's, yes, it is because she just fucking, but she just, you're going to play that stance. But she just met her. We talked about this.

She just, and it's also Ralph's cousin. I agree. No, no, no, I agree with that. Oh, that's the other thing is she's also Ralph's cousin. She's going through all this shit with Ralph. And you've got Ralph's cousin sitting there. It's like, ah, yeah, you know, I just met you a couple of months ago. Look, I agree with, I agree with what you are saying.

Yes, I'm saying the way that Drew likes to spin it sometimes is that, you know, blood is thicker than water like I stand by my family Courtney's my family but when it's against Kenya she decides that oh she's not really Mike that's when she's like oh that's ralph's cousin she plays both sides yeah she does she does she does definitely play both sides um it's it was just so fucking funny to see and honestly it's it's wild because you know obviously after that we get kenya going to the hospital and candy has to go with her and we've said this all along it is funny when the two of them are not there obviously like drew who had a tumultuous night the night before, whatever.

Manienda doesn't really have a leg to stand on. So she's just going to be nice to people. They have a nice time. They go to the fucking pottery thing and they just start painting things. They're all having a great time. They're laughing. They do a fake fight in the middle of it, which I'm sure like the Portuguese and the Irish woman were like,

what the hell's going on here? But it was still funny and it was just like a good, it was just good downtime in the meantime, like just something that kind of gets us through. And that's what we always, we always love to see that on the trips because you can't escape each other. you can't just go run and hide in your room unless you're Kenya and you can just go run and hide in your room in an event thing that you planned but otherwise yeah otherwise you could just go hang out you have to hang out with each other and you have to get through anything that pops up it's just nice to see a nice moment because that's the first time in this show since we started watching that everybody you know obviously sans Kenya and candy are sitting around having a good time and laughing like that we kind of need that you need that kind of break it bums me out though again because Kenya pulls candy away right so once again candy is at the hospital all day and they can't get into a room they're laying

in the hallway because can you fell on her ass like yeah come on don't don't drag candy there we need candy to step up a little bit more as we just talked about and now she's sitting in a portuguese hospital with kenya doing fucking nothing and like that sucks that does suck i i do agree when she finally does get back um they sit down and drew has an issue with you know When she was getting emotional at the table, Candy said and seen as though she was putting on a performance. And because you and I are geniuses and journalistic masterminds, borderline Pulitzer Prize winners, we debunk this immediately that there was much more behind this. So I do think that, yeah, could you see this as Drew trying to overdo it because she's just trying to make Shiree look like an idiot?

Yeah, but because we know there's more behind it, that was genuine. Those tears were real, but they were about something totally different. Candy does end up apologizing, and they kind of smooth things over. We saw Drew and Shiree earlier, smooth things over. I mean, we'll see. I don't really believe it. But we end the episode with a rumor. allegedly Drew had a relationship or an ongoing thing with a woman named Latoya.

And we don't know that much about this. I don't know if this was a product of her and Ralph not being great. And it was just like right place, right time with her and Latoya. I don't know if what's your take on this? Do you think that this is produced by Drew? Do you think she's trying to push this narrative intentionally to like, I, in my mind, because she's getting a lot of spotlight this season, I think that she is trying to play it up more. I'm not saying that this didn't happen.

I'm not saying it's not real by any means. We don't know. I'm just saying, I think that Drew understands that because the other ladies are seemingly having a down year, according to our audience and according to the regular Atlanta Watchers, is she trying to make the most of an opportunity, which I'll never fault anybody in these shows for doing. like she got a chance to step into the limelight here and she's yeah at the very least taking advantage of it or attempting to i i don't know because if you're drew and you have obviously your world is crumbling around you with ralph and there's all this shit going on if somebody brings up a cheating rumor the fact that you made out with a girl down in aisle of palms i you're going to deny it like immediately right because you don't want that out there you don't want to give ralph the ammunition because ralph's the kind of guy that This is the reason that he wanted to break off the marriage because he's a piece of shit garbage human. Yeah, I just, I just can't see that actually being true. So I do understand why Drew wants to be a little guarded on it. And I do think that, you know, maybe you just kind of avoid the whole thing altogether.

I think it happened if you're, if you like, you really have to ask me and you want me to actually say it. I think it did happen. I think that she did hook up with her. I don't know if there was actually a relationship. It could just be somebody that she was close to like, whatever. Maybe she just had fun and like made out with nothing. girl and she was just on a trip having a good time and she feels regretful about it she doesn't want to talk about it but she's still friends with that person and then she gets spotted going out to different clubs or going out to bars or whatever with this other person and then all of a sudden it's like oh yeah well they're having a relationship because of what we know and then things get leaked to the press like oh yeah they hooked up once down in aisle of palms and now they're out at a restaurant together it's like okay friends make out you and i've made out before it's not that big of a deal what i didn't uh whoops um but no i i i i don't really think it's that like big of an issue i said that deep no i don't think it's that deep at all i just i think that

drew is just guarding herself because she knows what's on the horizon with ralph and any little information that's going to come out about her transgressions if you will or anything that ralph can use against her is bad for her so of course she's going to say no to that of course she's going to deny it of course she's going to go on a tirade about how it's not true and she's going to burn every bridge that she ever had i do like that candy just stuck to her guns the whole time because even after that like and scene thing candy didn't apologize candy was just like i didn't realize that you were actually fucking crying i thought that it was just the thing is that lou no i drop my my journal no i i i love the candy stuck to it because like after that whole scene and then even after she's

like what are you you're calling me a liar because i'm telling you what i know i saw it happen it didn't fuck like i know what's going on and she just stuck to it because if you're going to keep going over and over again that's that's sort of like the sherry approach with the she by shiree If Drew really wants to hide this, don't keep pressing it. Just leave it and just be like, I didn't hook up with her. It's the end of the story, whatever.

Don't call Candy a liar because then Candy's going to defend yourself and then it's going to get worse. So I don't really understand any of that. I don't think it's for the cameras. I don't think it's for a storyline. I think it was just a bad approach by Drew. Interesting.

Well, the one thing, and this is like not super pertinent, but I just want to break it down a little bit. From Ralph's perspective, my favorite human on the plane. she allegedly made out with a woman somewhere if they're married yes that's obviously an issue you guys need to discuss that figure out how to move forward if you can move forward that's still cheating cheating is cheating i get that this man was oiled down by a woman for a shoot with his wife then invited by said woman to vegas to try out for a male stripper show yes who the

fuck are you to throw stones in your massive glass house you douchebag like are you fucking serious like this guy he's he's the actual worst he really is like he's the worst kind of husband he's the worst kind of guy he's the guy he's the kind of dude that gives dudes a bad name you see the stupid grand gestures that we see right through the brunch like we called it you're doing this brunch because you're about to do some shady shit what does he do some shady shit She feels a certain way about it. She's crying on a trip to Portugal because her husband is such an asshole. And then he has the nerve to say, I'm ending it because you cheated on me by making out with Latoya.

Get the fuck out of here, bro. Like, you went to Vegas with a woman to try out for a male stripper venue. Like, what are we talking about here? Honestly. It doesn't make it. I mean, we know that Ralph is just a complete piece of shit. And that's what I was talking about, like him having ammunition. and we see those clips of him saying

that this is the reason why the end of the relationship happened, the end of the marriage happens. I think he's just, he's the reason. He just wanted one little thing to go wrong in Drew's life. Drew has, like, I wasn't the biggest Drew fan this whole season, but like obviously something going on like this, like I feel bad for her.

Drew has been, she's a good mom. She put her fucking career on hold. She was so excited to get back to singing. She was so excited that she was doing a music video. Supportive sister. You dumb piece of shit have to get involved. and make this all about you when you were probably off having an affair

like a full blown affair with this fucking manager who had you out in Vegas like there was probably no fucking actual audition for anything. Who the fuck is going to fly to Vegas for an audition to be whatever the fuck he was doing like shit and down. You know who would? Fucking Ralph

Ralph. Well yeah, of course. Yeah. But like it doesn't make any sense and the dots are just not connecting. He'd had shitty behavior and this is the type of guy that he is and there's so many fucking guys out there that do this they have so many issues with themselves they do all these fucking terrible things and they are look they just don't stand up for them they don't take any responsibility for them but as soon as their partner does something wrong they will point it right

back at their direction and say this is your fault because this is what you did in the whole grand scheme of things if she made out with a girl going down in the aisle of palms she went to dinner with that girl she didn't have i don't think she had a full-blown fucking relationship with her but maybe she did even if she did and ralph was out doing that then who cares like that's just how that fucking happens but don't turn it on her and make it all about her good riddens true you don't need the guy yeah for all intents and purposes like you said she's been a good mom a good sister a good daughter she's trying to reboot her career she's working her ass off whether you like drew or not those are objective things that's what she's doing this season she has a lot on her fucking plate all the meanwhile trying to deal with this garbage pale kid ralph so respect to her honestly whether you like her or not i and good riddens true you're you're way better off without fucking yeah ralph seriously you later deuses but we're not doing questions this week as we are fried um as you can tell um are what is it what did i say my my

your uh your eggs on drugs eggs on my egg on drugs or something stupid so that's where we're at um But in a good way, it was a wonderful night, and we can't wait for the next one. Do you have anything else, Shooter? I got nothing at all. Well, remember to follow us on all of our socials at brav underscore bros. Subscribe to our YouTube page at Brov Bros podcast and pay attention to the socials because we got some things cooking, baby. As usual, we don't, we're never content. We're never, ever content.

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