Bros & Shows - Prom From Hell (Southern Hospitality Finale Full Recap)

Episode Date: March 11, 2025

What's up Bros? We made it to the finale and this show is amazing. While many of us feel as though they got shafted with the reunion being same day as the finale and only a ten episode run. Let's keep this crew humble as long as we can because all signs are pointing to this show is going to be a hit. Emmy put together a law prom to make up for missing Will's, although from what we see this episode, his enthusiasm is hardly shining through. Joe and Maddi look like theyve reached a better place as Joe realizes he needs to stop pushing. Michols and Preston make it exclusive in a very touching scene. Prom goes how we all thought it would. Austin dances around the subject with everyone else at the party but doesnt talk to Will until Mia forces the issue. Brad and TJ did a little more digging and as everything comes to a head, all the info comes out. Will deflects and tries to put a fed up TJ down, while the rest of the group just wants answers. G Lily proves shes the worst friend on the planet when she shows up with The Milk Man... It was a beautiful disaster we watched in this finale and we give all the props to this cast for a damn good season. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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none of you are safe. New episodes every Wednesday, wherever you get your podcasts. I'm going to start this episode out. I'm going to start the reunion episode out the same exact way because we're about to do a little back to back. This also is our second episode in a row. So buckle up everybody. But I want to make it very clear and very known that once again, Will reached out to us to come on the podcast.

Foregoing the reunion, et cetera, et cetera. We responded after watching the reunion. Yes, we will have you want. So everybody out there know the ball is in his court. we will have will on if he is tough enough to do it we will see what he does but i just want to make it very clear the ball you're sure it's not just going to turn into emmy taking his place and answering for him i mean if this season and reunion give us any inkling whatsoever yeah emmy will probably end up showing up on camera instead of him but yeah balls in his courts

Bros and shows I gotta have me my pros and shows Bros and shows Bros and shows I gotta have me my bros and shows Good afternoon everybody

Welcome back to another episode of Bros and Shows I'm your co-host Steel Russell joined as always by the one and only Southern Hospitalogutes What's up dude

Took a while to get there Yeah it took a little while to get there Not a lot You know there's a lot of things going on A lot of people online, a lot of chatter talking about how Soho got shafted. I am of the thinking that they didn't really get shafted except for the fact that the finale is on the same night as the reunion. I don't like that.

I don't like that on either. I don't like rolling right into it. Give them another standalone night. We know the Bravo has a big schedule coming up. They've got Atlanta drops tonight. But like they've earned it. Like give them another week. Like people don't really want to do that.

They want to stay and watch and they want to speculate. Let this whole finale thing simmer. And then let's get into the reunion. Let's get into some of these things. Like a lot happens in this episode. Give everybody a week. Even the cast, like Brad's out there posting pictures at law school saying law school 101. How to cheat on your girlfriend?

There's a lot of shit that's going to happen in this next week where people are reacting to the things that happen in the finale and the reunion. We're going to be talking about it. There's going to be more sound bites from other people. on the show like give it a week to settle and then we're going to go into the reunion next week like all right this is going to be great and the reunion was great and we'll do have a whole episode uh in an episode we'll have an entire episode we're going to have an entire episode for just the reunion because that was also great we didn't get a ton of answers but it's also great this is just the finale so settle in we got you we got you guys we will do two episodes

well i guess they did two episodes too but and we're doing it back to back but that's not the point the point is we're taking the time to break them both down individually so that you can if you want wait a week to listen to the other one i don't know why you would do that but that's your prerogative gary anyway i agree there was a lot that happened in this episode the reunion was great we got basically no answers honestly other than i mean we got answers for everything else that happened this season just no answers about the main thing that happened this season with will and emmy but i didn't expect much more than that but i agree with you now that that I've thought about it.

I mean, first and foremost, yes, we should have been given a week to marinate because we have to speculate. We got to come up with theories. We got to do all these different things before we get to the reunion. That's how this works. That's why Brava is so good is because of the fan interaction. But with that being said, I agree with you because you said something before we started recording.

And Dev said something earlier to me today where I was on the team of, they got shafted, give them more than 10 episodes, have the reunion in an actual studio. They went back to the fucking clubhouse again. This is the best show on. bravo right now and i will stand by that yeah you made the point and dev made the point keep them humble because if this is going the route of vpr which all we don't like to compare the two anymore

because we feel that they're they are different enough but if it's going the route of vanderpump this group will soon be a little too famous and a little too wealthy to be working in republic anymore and that's what happened in vanderpump and that's when the show started to shift a little bit there are still some good seasons after they were big but let's keep them humble as long as we can because inevitably if it keeps going this direction and all signs point to it is unless they get fucking jeremiah involved yeah this is going to be a hit so he just get blacklisted like just blacklist them from all shows i or put them on a show that nobody watches i don't care put them on um yeah the the only thing i will say like they could probably get like another two

episodes there's enough i think it would have had i would love to see the aftermath of prom i really would have like to see that problem yeah like let's see the fallout because there's a lot of tensions a lot of high emotions going on a prom we need a couple more scenes of people just kind of like sitting together sitting with the information they got from will and emmy sitting with all of the emotions and letting it run its course like that's what we need we need at least one more episode after prom to like let everything settle in before we get to the region and tempers can flare again i think that's fair at the very least make it an hour and a half episode and you get a three weeks later and it's everybody after the fact you know what i mean and then we could have finished on that note

and then do the reunion the following week but hey yeah we are not producers though we want to be so very badly but let's get into this episode as we know emmy set up this whole prom and she's sitting there in the morning making the calls making sure everything set up ready to go and we keep getting and i hate that they did this because i get so excited when we get because of the housewives anytime you get three days before i'm like oh shit something happened and it's like three days before nothing happens two days before i'm like still like what are we doing you get this very touching scene with michael's and preston and the promposal i am like i am michael's biggest fan i think he is one of the best things to happen to bravo in a very long time especially after the reunion

like this dude's the fucking man but very sweet prom pros promposal with the cakes and we had a full circle moment i love full circle moments let's not forget preston and michael's got together because somebody smeared cake and they smooched at Michael's birthday party then at the promposal they did it again I was like yay he went all out

he had three cakes he even had a no cake which I hope somebody ate at some point we don't like to see cakes go and eating you know yeah that's that's our biggest platform here no cakes left behind but cakes left behind yeah

it was very sweet especially considering his last experience of prom he went with his girlfriend at the time and he was quote unquote straight and they went back to his house and were in his room, I suppose, and woke up the next morning with a box of condoms on his bed. So that's his recollection of prom. So I'm glad that he gets to have a real prom with a real date and enjoy himself.

Payton, just a real shit picture of his mom. I know, dude. He's rough, bro. That sucks. It's hard. It's really hard to listen to, honestly. But you get one day before. I'm like, all right, here we go.

And awesome, fucking awesome scene. But still, I was waiting for some shit to pop, like really pop off. and it's Joey Bottles doing the love actually. I was cracking up this whole time. Just absolutely crying, laughing. Now, did you? No, I should have. We should just, yeah.

We'll get it to that. But like, that was so, like he rented a car. He rented like a Mustang. You're in a GT like Mustang, which is perfect. It fits that scene.

But hey, yeah, again, dude, with the money for Uber's and then renting that fucking car, buy a car. Put a down payment on a car, Joe. Get a goddamn car.

Like, even if it's a shitty car. for like a year and then get a better one. But stop wasting money. I'm wasting your money on travel. Yeah. It doesn't make any sense. But I thought he did a good job.

Look, this was nice to see because we didn't know where they stood. The last time we saw them together, tempers were flaring. They were at each other's necks because there's a lot going on. Joe wants to move in with Maddie. Maddie's not ready for it. Maddie's right. Joe's not right. That's pretty much what we got from it.

And he just let it all go. And this is the best way to let it go. And only a way that Joe Bradley can do in just a goofy, nothing seemed to really go right when he's dropping those signs. And it probably is a lot more difficult than we think it is because it was very windy out. And you could see them just flying away. And I'm sure he, I would have loved that they included like a little editor's thing. And you just see Joe like sprinting after them after he's not asking her if she wants to go to prom. Yeah, that would be really funny.

But this is only a thing that Joe can do. He can make it funny. He can make her laugh. And I'm sure that's part of the reason why she loves them. So it works out perfectly for Joey. Yeah, even the speaker was like losing the fucking antenna was fucking up. But that my whole thing was like, if you had the song planned, did you have the song planned or did he just like tune into like local rock 101? Dude, where's your fucking JBL speaker?

Like just pop a JBL speaker, throw some fetewop on. That's what we do. He probably rented this fucking radio too instead of just buying a fucking speaker. I don't know. I definitely found this in somebody's garage. Yeah, that sounds more right. But I will say, like you said, the biggest. thing to take away is he has finally realized like okay like so the fuck down he realizes later on

or he says more on the topic where he's like you know the only person that's going to push her away is me by being overbearing it's like let this thing play out you guys are in a great spot so seeing him come to this realization via signs was great a little love actually moment he has to make sure to let mattie know i try to pull from lots of different rom-coms it's like yeah dude it worked it's fine you don't have to explain it's like a joke you don't have to explain the joke it's not it worked it worked you got it she's she's in but we get to republic and uh joe getting caught putting makeup on is is fucking hilarious as well because michael's walks he's like what are you doing he's like uh check in the stats on the rotary girder any any guy who's ever had a girlfriend before

has gone through this you get like at first you just kind of like push back you're like yeah i got a blemish whatever it's a pimple it'll go away not really worried about it no no no we're going to cover it up no we're not going to cover it up and then you get put in the position where you are going to cover it up and of course he gets you got to gets caught almost right away. I will say this. I think they sold it fine because Michael's probably just thought that they were making out.

He's like, I thought that's, yeah, quit smooching on the job, guys, 100%. But Emmy goes to a confessional and she's like, it's been a rough summer.

It's like, you know what it has? And like we've been sympathetic to her side of this whole thing where she's just getting put through the ringer by a manipulative boyfriend, which is exactly what she's, I mean, that's all it is. And even after watching the reunion,

I stand by that. But, the fact that she still says stuff like you know after finally proving will's innocence it's like when how we haven't seen it like why do you have to lean on that i that just sucks to watch dude it just shows you where she's at because he's bullied because that because he's the best part and i don't know if the producers were doing them dirty i hope they were the amount of times that they ran the clip of will saying i'm getting bullied at law school i think it was four or five and i was like play it just it's just for us just i think it is like it was such a

great move they just kept playing it and every scene that it was like referred to they fucking played it i was like good because this is the most ridiculous thing i've ever heard but anyway you get tj and bradley and they've been the most meticulous as far as trying to gather evidence like talking to other people and i think a big part of that is because of the ties they have with both of them right like will's their boy no matter what it appears that they still want to figure out a way through this to be friends with him but at least brad does i think the tj's finally out on it but But I think for Brad, I think it's more that like he's just, he's out on Will right now.

He feels disrespected. I feel like he feels like Will's being a dick lying to their faces and he's tired of hearing on it. So that's why I, and I don't think he's going the extra mile like TJ is. But I think that he's keeping his ear to the grounds. And if somebody's talking bad about Will, he probably lets them go a little bit longer because he's frustrated with Will. And they were boys, but you can't have your boy lie to your face that many times. And you're friends with Emmy too. And I don't think that Bradley is as close to Emmy as T.J. is.

but he's still close enough to her and he sees what it's doing to her. And you see Emmy and her confessional like it was a tough summer. I don't know what's going on. You can see her spiraling and you see Will just completely denying all of this and keeping her away from everybody.

So it's very clear for everybody involved. Like, all right, do I really want to keep dealing with this asshole? Or do I want to just see if any of this is true? And I think that's where Bradley is. Whereas TJ, DJ likes the goss. He does he a little into it.

He wants to protect Emmy, first and foremost. He wants to make sure that she's okay. He feels like, will's an asshole and now it's like all right well i do love goss i'm going to get involved i'm going to reach out to a couple of people i'm going to see what i can find because it's juicy and it can vindicate a couple of things that we've been talking about and it makes me feel good and i can protect em so it is just a full swing for him and i want to add to that a little bit and saying he's justified in doing so with how he's been treated by the two of them so that's the craziest part

and that's mentioned the reunion later but it's like if you guys had handled it differently with these people that are, quote, unquote, your friends, then you probably wouldn't have gotten the backlash that you received, or at least as harshly. But any time that T.J. tried to come to you, you berated him, belittled him, and talked shit about him. So at this point, now he's on a revenge path to clear his own name because you guys are calling him all sorts of names. So now it's different. Now it's not just, let me protect my friend. Now it's also let me protect myself because you guys keep fucking being mean to me. So he's justified in the digging, and they start to put some pieces together where it's like, all right, law prom, Emmy couldn't go because she had a ski trip with the family.

That's allegedly the weekend that this all shook out because they heard right after that Saturday or whatever that problem was, it was the run club day that Austin let slip that he heard, Will had cheated on her. So everything's starting to line up timeline-wise. It's all making sense to me. We are very evidence-focused here. if you provide evidence timelines you're going to you're going to sell us journalist integrity that's us picture of us that's what you think yeah totally but brad is conflicted and you can tell and not that he's not going to to do the right thing but he says in his confessionally he's like you know watching this relationship is kind of pushed emmy to be somebody she's not and yeah will's my

boy but i'm not going to sit by and let her get steamrolled if i don't have to because at this point I care about her too much, and I'm seeing what's going on, and she's a shell of who she used to be, which we've watched. If you compare this season to last season, Emmy is unrecognizable almost. So we get to Emmy and Will. And when you're looking deep into these shows, as we like to do, you're looking for reactions. You're looking for how they talk about their spouse.

Yeah, right. Their partner, they're never getting fucking married. But like, they might be. Who knows? No, fucking shot. but he says in his confessional you know i've never been a big prom guy but emmy is so excited it's like you're you're doing it again everything that she gets excited about you have to put a damper on it you just went to law prom with somebody else so clearly you like to go to prom and the only time you don't

like to go to prom is when your actual girlfriend is involved apparently so just feign excitement just be the fucking normal and not bash your girl like he doesn't even recognize it in these moments when he's talking like that's like you're shitting on her right now and you expect us to believe you care about her. Like, that's crazy to me. With Amex Platinum, access to exclusive Amex pre-sale tickets can score you a spot trackside. So being a fan for life turns into the trip of a lifetime.

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Condition supply, visit your local Volvo retailer or go to explorevolvo.com. Yeah, no, it's fully crazy to me. And this is pretty much par for the course for him. I mean, this is what's going to happen. And if he decides that she doesn't want to be on the show anymore. She's not going to be around these people that are going to be pointing to things

saying, hey, Will's doing some suspect shit. He's coming into Republic. He's talking smack on you. He's bad-mouthing your entire relationship. He's bad-mouthing your eating habits, your workout habits, all of these things that go along with you. And you're going to sit there and still defend him. Meanwhile, he's still doing the same shit.

He hasn't changed his behavior the whole time. You see, Emmy scrambling to try to make excuses for the guy. And he's over here saying that he's getting bullied at law school. And that must be where it's coming from. Like, no, why would anybody really care? If somebody, and we'll break it down on a logical level, if Austin's girlfriend's brother is sitting there calling you Bravo boy, do you think he's going to turn around that then try to create a rumor,

like some sort of high schooler to try to get you in a bad place with your girlfriend? No, he's probably just laughing at him. He doesn't gain anything from that. He's laughing at you because you're a loser. That's all that's really happening. So don't take it this extra step, and that's all you're going to do, and you're just going to live in that and say that you're vindicated,

it's wrong. It just doesn't make any sense. And we can see it here. And it's not even just like how we watch this where we're very analytical and like we pay attention to the emotions, pay attention to all like the sub tweeting that goes on and the shows. He just flat out doesn't like her. He doesn't respect her as a girlfriend. Like he doesn't see. I see you going through all of this. Every time that it's anything going on or the, you know, the agony that they've gone through this summer. It's we've been through hell this summer. You haven't. You've been working shit avoiding things. You've barely been the show she's had to face the brunt of it she's been having a rough summer she's been going through a lot of shit you're over here bad mouthing her this is your fault take accountability and just move on like i just don't understand how you can't just be like leave any out like go to the group leave any out of this this has nothing to do with her if you guys want to come to her because you heard a cheating rumor go to me first and we can talk about it you still want to go to me fine go i bad mouth there i shouldn't have done that let's move on i really feel bad about it i put her in a bad spot but please stop going after her because it's

affecting her. I'll try to clean up my side of it. That's really all you needed to do. And I think everybody would have been like, all right, we'll stay out of it. Something else happens. We'll talk about it then. But if you can keep it clean, everything's going to be fine. Instead, he's like, no, you guys are coming after me. I'm the victim. You're not the victim. Emmy's the victim. Emmy's taking the brunt of the entire thing. That's such a good point. It's like at some point, dude, step up. Step in front of the bullets and take them yourself because the thing that bothers me the most, I'll play devil's advocate. And I don't believe for a second he didn't cheat. But I will play devil's advocate for a split second and say,

okay, let's say you didn't cheat. Your behavior regardless has put her in these precarious positions because you keep doing questionable things. Let's say you didn't follow through with the cheating, which again, don't believe that. Let's say you didn't. You were still in the bathroom one on one with a girl. You still have done enough on a campus for people to text people back home and say, this relationship will has with this person is a little shady. I don't really know what's going on. I don't really understand what's going on. To further that, TJ saying, I remember now a night in New York City where Will talk to me and said this girl on campus, I think she's getting the wrong idea. To me, that sounds like you're setting up

an excuse for when shit falls apart, which it has now. So if you look at the behavior and remove the cheating from it entirely regardless, you have put her in this spot where she has to defend herself. And instead of stepping up, you've been quote unquote working in nine to five and avoiding it and then playing victim while she's getting berated that's one of my biggest issues obviously the cheating is number one that's very close second but you're not protecting her he's not protecting her from any of that oh yeah it's just crazy if you love somebody you fucking step up in that moment she's been getting hammered all season by these people and you haven't said a fucking word but anyway you get joe mattie and eva and they're talking about

the o'sheen stuff i'm so glad we got to see him again the milkman come if Oh, don't. And he hit every fucking trope imaginable within five fucking minutes, dude. But Maddie is still under the impression. And obviously she would be, given the conversation she just had with Grace Lilly, that Grace wants to make things right with Eva. So she tells Eva that. She tells Joe that. Eva's even somewhat open to the idea because she's not like, fuck that.

She knows what she was doing. I think Eva does have to get over it. One, it's Oshin. Two, you guys were friends with benefits. You guys weren't in a relationship. Who the fuck cares? I agree with that, but that doesn't mean you have to be friends with grace. You don't have to be friends with her.

I think Maddie would like it in a perfect world, but you know what? Sometimes your friends aren't friends with your friends. That's what happens. You like that line? Your friends are your friends with your friends. Yeah, whatever. No, your friends aren't friends with your friends. Oh, yeah, that's good.

I'll take that one, which is fine. And that is fine. But I think she wants this click back, which I understand that part of it. And, you know, I agree with. you as far i don't even know if she is stuck on oh she maybe it's just the betrayal of the whole thing like i don't honestly just be that eva doesn't really like grace lily and then once that happened she's like all right then i don't like her i'm not going to be around her anymore and that's fair you know i mean we love grace lily we would hang out with her she'd be a blast

i'm sure she'd be very wavy no i don't i have a very different opinion after the uh this episode yeah i'm off i'm off you're just a shitty fucking you don't want to do jazz hands i'll give her credit she's entertaining like she's entertaining i'm not taking away from that she's not a terrible friend no no she's a bad person but i think maybe that's i think eva just found her out she's like you know what i don't really care about o'shine but i really don't like grace lily she did this i'm going to stay away from her and that's perhaps that could definitely be it but it did it did seem like there was a door open here where it's like all right like maybe i'll hear her out but we get to t j mea and bradley for a scene that i named eyepatches and wine because they're all getting

ready for prom. Bradley needs some eyepatches. You got to show up looking your best. So they're just sipping a little vino. I've got a lot of pictures in me and eye masks. Yeah, there's nothing wrong with a good eye mask. You know, I got to get the bags to go away. It's a lot. But some more information starts coming out

because there's a VIP server at Republic. I'm not sure why this is just coming out now. That's a little suspect because if she's been there the whole time, like she clearly knows what's up. But the server says that Will has this study buddy, quote unquote, on campus and they hang out all the time the students think that it's his girlfriend and this is when tj

references that's interesting because in new york city will had mentioned to me that he thinks that this girl at school is getting the wrong idea what i wasn't ready for is yeah and apparently she moved in with will at one point or another which is fucking nuts yeah and even mea is like you know what and me is the toughest one of this group is like let's give him the benefit of the doubt ask him about it and this is why I wish Mia was present from day one and not the whole season because this would have but I guess it would I think the Joe TJ thing probably wouldn't have lasted as long as it did yeah think like this would have taken me in those situations because she's very real in the sense of like if things drag on for too long and it's just people talking

around an issue and talking about it behind other people's backs she always just wants to bring it to their attention like hey enough of this I'm tired of hearing about it This is not going anywhere. We're just coming up with more rumors. Just address it. We're going to be with him, filming with him. He's got a camera on him. Let's just get this over with.

I think that Mia is just the no-nonsense person. And she works so well with this cast. And it sucks that I guess it's still going to work out well for her because she's still going to be in Charleston. But her not working in Republic anymore seemed like it was going to be an issue last year. Now it's just completely out the window. It's fine. Yeah, no.

It worked out completely fine. She 100% delivered this season. And like you said, it just would have brought this. to the forefront sooner because she doesn't she's like why are we doing this why are we skating around to just fucking ask him and let's get this over with but before we get to prom i think we got to hear from our friends over at bull and branch we most certainly do and steal i think you called it out in the last episode i am well rested i'm feeling good i had a nice weekend to just lay around do nothing and the most exciting part of that weekend was laying at my bull and branch signature sheets they

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And this is arguably the most foreshadowing scene that you're going to get. because you've got a split scene here, juxtapose scene on one side. It's Will and Emmy arriving to the venue. Emmy is getting ready. She comes out and she looks great and she clearly wants some compliments. And Will is very half-ass like blah, blah, blah. He's on his fucking laptop.

I thought it was so disrespectful. Once again, she missed your law prom and she went out of her way to put together a law prom in Charleston to still celebrate it with you. And you are on your fucking laptop acting like you have more important things. to do after saying, I'm not a big prom guy. So you're putting no, no excitement into this, no effort. You're acting like, whoa, sure to be there.

Slow down here. He got balloons and a Sharpie. Oh, and he did change his work tie to a party tie. Yeah, that's big. Fuck that. Whatever. Anybody who's worked to nine to five knows that that's a big deal. That is a big deal.

I've never worked a nine to five, but it sounds like a big deal. But with the other scene, it's the party bus. everyone's lit they're having a great time they're excited i mean it's a good party idea especially if you put like effort into it and emmy clearly did like they got drinks they got food like she went all out so yeah it should be a really exciting night meanwhile will's like oh my god yeah like it's so unenergetic and so fucking frustrating but we get to prop we get a lucia sighting haven't seen her season one two she was in season two right she was in season two yeah brad brab is going out with her that's right that's right so then we get this just

another amazing scene, thanks to Michaels, and he's been on this incredible journey this season. He's allowed all of us to witness this growth that he's gone through. But Michaels is sitting with Preston, and he had said something in bed the other day where he's like, I deleted all my dating apps, implying exclusivity. So Michaels wants to have this actual conversation, and I thought the way that Preston handled it was so mature and allowed for Michaels to make his own decision. He's like, look, I am all yours, all right? I also recognize there's an age gap here.

you haven't experienced certain things. You need to go out there. You need to learn this, that, the other. Giving Michael the opportunity, like, hey, I'm ready. But if you're not, I understand because he has experienced dating in Charleston and what it's like there. So I love that from Preston. And then for Michael's to be like, well, I do want to experience all those things.

But I want to do it with you. I was like, yay. Like, I love this. Yeah, beautiful scenes. I'm happy for those two. It was very sweet. But that's probably the last sweet moment we're going to have this evening. Yeah, that's for sure.

Everyone's having a blast. everybody's having a fucking blast except for who well the the hosts of the party and her fucking boyfriend are outside acting like this is a fucking work event where it's like oh god will is sitting in a goddamn chair

and he goes I'm exhausted shut up get up thank your girlfriend take her inside and have a fun night because I bet you if we take clips from law prom you were probably on the fucking dance floor with that random brunette cutting it up having a blast wasted doing all cutting it up no he's in the bathroom dog oh my bad yeah you're in the bathroom so you probably didn't there's probably not in the bathroom for sure you were asked the bathroom attendant but like that that's what pisses me off the most and that's where he wants to defend himself that he's not a bad boyfriend he's not out there

cheating it's like but your behavior aside from cheating sucks you give her no fucking energy. She threw this party for you. She did the same thing last year for you. And you just said to her at 8 p.m., the party just fucking started. You're like, I'm exhausted because you work. Everybody works. Dickhead grow up. What are we talking about? Yeah, I just, like, there's no effort, just zero effort on his part. If you're in a situation, like, all of us have seen guys or girls who have cheated on their significant. others. Usually the reaction is, oh, fuck, I'm going to get my act together. If they know that you've been doing some weird shit or you've been talking shit on them, you're going to get your act together,

even if it's just for a couple of weeks. Have you seen any of that from him? And like, I'm sorry, but they still sit here and everybody's speculation is you're trying to get to a point where you just don't care anymore and she's just going to break up with you. And then you can say it's her fault, not your fault. That's what you're trying to get to. And you keep denying that. But all of your actions are pointing to that's what you're doing if your girlfriend's going to throw you a whole thing because she was upset that she couldn't go to your law prom and it's going to be a fun time go have fun and i get that like everybody hates you why not try to change that by being nice to people by being personable by walking around and talking to people maybe they're not going to start hunting down evidence

about you cheating on your girlfriend anymore they're just going to have fun with you like i don't understand how he doesn't see this instead he's just going to sit there and be like i don't even really be here i'm tired like what do you do you work in nine to five it's not like you're fucking golfing every day afterwards and going to work we've seen your swing you suck you're not even good at golf we've seen you play paddle ball or tennis or whatever it may have been you suck you're just not good so what are you doing we haven't seen you in the gym once brad's doing shit every weekend he's got a run club in charleston what are you doing bro sitting around eating chips on your laptop probably talking other girls live yeah he's he's fucking on his laptop

just drives me insane man like we're all we're like way older i i don't care how bad the problem is i'm going to have a good time i'm going to cut up dude i'm going to have a great time on that dance for like come without a doubt especially given the circumstances that's the craziest part you're now you're a cheater and you're a loser yeah good for you pal but austin arrives and lets everybody know that alley's not coming because apparently will woke up and decided to call austin's austin's brother whoops will called allie's brother, Austin's girlfriend. As we've heard, the only line of communication that Will and Emmy seem to be focused on

because there is no chance that anybody else at this law school close to Charleston is from Charleston, because that would be ludicrous, right, that other people could see this and recognize that guy's on TV and see him doing some sketchy shit and be like, wait, I know, Brad, and text somebody. I'm pissed at Austin. Like, just, dude, just enough. Just fucking tell us. Tell everybody.

guys thank you thank you so like it drives me dancing around it fucking say it bro you're like such a coward like you're afraid of the we know now all the information that you've given us about alley and her family you don't talk to her family her family doesn't know you guys are dating again because of the last time we don't know what the fuck happened the last time but there's a reason why they don't like you and they don't want you and her together now you're rejecting it but you're going on your confessional saying yeah you know i just didn't want to bring it up because like it's early in our re-relationship fuck all off, man. You're on a reality TV now, dude. You're a secondary character. You're in the reunion. You're in the second row. Get up to the front row. You want to be a player on this? Why are you even on this show? If you're more worried about a second relationship with a girl that you fucked it up with the first time and you're not just going to tell us. It just drives me insane. Like, shut up, man, just tell everybody. Because it's just, get it out. Again, why are you doing it at the confessional? Like, at least be consistent. I agree. I agree. That was my biggest issue with him is just we heard this, bro. And now you're telling us that

Allie's not coming due to this call. And yet we're still not going to dive in. You're still like, ah, you clearly don't want to address Will. That's what it looks like. You walk around with your shirt off and you like fucking run barefoot and like your tough, you're lifting logs and push comes to shove and you're afraid to go talk to Will. Go talk to Will if you're this guy. So that drove me nuts too.

And I'm glad you brought that up. But Allie, I guess, was devastated because she heard about this. I guess that Ali's brother didn't know that. Allie was dating Austin again as we found out they don't like Austin so that was obviously a little bit of a shock there I have no idea if they're still together or not Michael I don't care I don't really care either I could care less like I'm not invested in him at all but Michaels gives will some credit because he's like I would probably do the same thing go to the source clear that I actually agree with that fully I do too it's like yeah dude do what you got yeah the timing is suspicious you're

going to do with the time is brutal why not And I forget who said it, but like, we've been talking about this since Vegas. And this is like two, three weeks after Vegas. You knew it. You brought it up to your boys. You talked about how this dude's bullying you, that he's the source of this whole rumor. You've been ruminating in it. You've been dealing with it for weeks.

Why are you doing it the day of the prom? Now, I understand again, I do agree. Go to the source. Like, be a man about it. Just fucking text them. Also, maybe it'll stop the bullying. Maybe he won't call you Bravo boy anymore. Maybe he'll call you a text boy.

I don't know what he's going to do. like just figure it out and that's the only thing that will has done pretty much this entire season that i actually agree with like at least yeah like asked i do but i don't again because it goes i don't believe austin austin saying that he's calling around all the sudden like i actually weirdly enough believe will he probably sent a text to that time it's like hey what the fuck yeah well i don't i'm not saying he didn't only send a text but the way that he said it is i only sent one text this morning and then later emmy's like well he denied everything blah blah well that means you had a discourse you had a conversation about this so clearly there was more said more sent but the

timing for one reason and one reason alone is why i'm the most pissed off about it yeah you know that this is going to throw a wrench into tonight and you know that emmy put this whole night together. Can't you just shut up and get through the night and then take care of it or take care of it three weeks ago? You're doing it the day of law prom via Emmy. And once again, she is a casualty because of it. That's fucking dumb. I wonder how it would have played out if Allie had showed up. Maybe this might be for the better because like do you want to have Emmy go after Allie and ask the questions? Do you want to ask Emmy or do you want to ask Ali directly? That's not a good look either as Will.

Like, you're not addressing any of this, but now that there's a girl involved, you're going to go after her for her brother. No, that's a terrible look too. It's probably better that Ellie didn't go for everybody involved. We probably would have gotten a little bit more clarity if she had shown up. We would have gotten more clarity,

that's for sure. But like, it is clear to me. We know where it came from. Oh, yeah, without a guy. I have no question. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. So anyway, G. Lily walks in. and again for the show and entertainment purposes yeah she does a job as a person and a friend no feel whatsoever this is shitting on one person and one personal yeah eva gets thrown under the bus here and yeah that sucks for her but we don't really know her what you're doing is shitting on the person that has defended you relentlessly you're in and you're out in mattie and you walk in with fucking o sheen and i have to hear the fucking line the milk stick of the never brother i'm like fuck you why are you back i don't need you here and in the first i posted the other day when joe posted pictures in the finale uh joe joe posted pictures for the finale and it was like him and o'shine

hugging so i put it on our account and like i didn't see that like what i wish i did i would have expected it yeah no just oh you didn't even see it uh yeah it just like the most like unenthusiastic ever the milk band's here the milk i just i can't the milk's thicker than I think I say get your milk ready. I just can't. I'm like within the first 30 seconds. Obviously Maddie's livid because it makes her look stupid as she says. Molly points out,

clearly Grace doesn't give a fuck about Maddie or anybody. And I hear O'Sheen after Maddie goes up to him and goes, you're so fucking mess. He goes, you knew what you got into and you got friends with me, babe. I'm like, yeah, did she, babe? Do you think that you're cool and edgy, babe? Because you're just fucking gross and annoying, babe. You pour milk on yourself.

But that's the worst part about dudes like that is they'll get away scot-free. Like he'll just go back to whatever corner of the world that he's working in now because he doesn't have a real job. He just pours milk on himself and bartends. So he'll go to wherever he's going, probably Thailand. And nobody's going to worry about him. Nobody's going to text him. Nobody's going to give him shit for showing up.

It's not going to worry. Like nothing's going to come back on him. He knows what he's doing. And they're only going to blame G. Lilly. And it is G. Lily's fault, of course. But she's the only one who's going to catch any heat. Maddie's going to be pissed off.

Eva might be pissed off. Gee, Lily's going to have to bear the brunt of it. He can go fuck off and he won't have to worry about it. And he can just come and go as he pleases. Like that's the problem with dudes like that. Yeah, he's laughing the entire time. It doesn't affect him.

He doesn't give a shit. No, he doesn't care. Again, for like the show purposes, like, yeah, that was a moment like, Jesus. She really brought this dude. But like, from a real person standpoint, it's like, are you that mean? Like, yeah, dude. Like, clearly this is vindictive, but whatever. It was just, I hated.

that in the first minute it was the milk's never been thicker and you knew what you got into and you were friends with me sick you're edgy and fucking cool bro like you're so sick is that a fucking is that a fucking wraparound tattoo on your forearm dude fuck yeah bro i just can't i fucking can't because you play fucking rugby i don't fucking care but anyway you get will mea and emmy and mea again lover she calls it out she goes you guys look like you're having the worst time ever and their fucking response is bizarre as shit well i thought it was going to be catered by sushi but now i'm eating this crab cake i don't like crab cakes what are we talking about what are you guys talking about what the fuck is that that's your best excuse party there's no sushi

no i don't care will will won't talk to anybody because he realizes that everybody hates him emmy is going to stick close to will because that's how their relationship works and that's what will once instead if will wasn't there and he would probably be bopping around and as long as nobody's talking about will cheating on her she'd have a good time but instead will's going to be there like sulking in the corner moping around doing all this shit and she's going to stick by him the entire time because that is how their relationship works and it bums everybody else out we're all trying to have a good time and give a fuck if there's crab cakes there are there drinks at the bar are we having a good time yeah we're having a great time the music sounds pretty good in there let's play

Maddie's song. Let's all get after it. That sounds like a great time. Now, I'm going to sit this out of Rondack chair. I don't really would be here. I'm pretty tired. You guys don't work 9 to 5. Seriously, though, dude, go do a shot. I'm sober. Go do a fucking shot. Go drink. Go have fun. Fuck the crab cakes. Fuck the sushi.

Who's looking at the spread at a prom party? Do you know how sick it looked to be like, have a prom theme, but you can go to the bar and drink during it? Did you see the guy who probably like owns the house that was like, who definitely was there the entire time and probably making like awkward comments and like partying too hard yeah i saw that good no i don't want you probably made out like he probably made out with like a 25 year old girl that night i'm just calling it i have no and i don't want to throw this dude under the bus like i have no idea he might be the sweetest

man in the world you just saw the back of his head but the coloring of his hair tells me that he likes to party because it was like there was like multiple i don't know what you call that but there was a lot of different dyes in there and i think this guy likes to fucking party he's like He was going for a touch of gray. Yeah, I think he's late for his touch of gray appointment. You guys can come and have this fucking party. Yeah, you can. I get to come, though, right?

No. Well, then you can't have any. One stipulation. Yeah, I get to party with you. Also, no sushi on the allergic. That's such a fucking funny idea. If you own an event space, like, yeah, totally. But here's the only caveat.

I get to party with you. He's like, yeah, but I get to party with you. You said event space. You set events space. And I just saw the choppers of Vietnam, JT. at his own event. JT gets a shout out in the reunion. I was like,

of course you're perpetuating this fucking room. Are you loser? You can't help yourself. I can't wait to get to that. That was the best callback. But we get to T.J. Austin and Bradley. Bradley and Austin Phil T.J. in. TJ's fully sold.

That will definitely cheated. And then they tell Maddie about the girl, that he took this girl to law prom. It lines up with when he came back talking shit. So everything, once again, if you present these pieces together we're walking through this timeline everything tracks everything

tracks the timing of it emmy not being there emmy being on a trip different area codes all of these things were you ludicrous he's got a hose and different area codes I censored myself and say it I said different area codes I didn't say that

I said it don't worry about it yeah you fucking no that's not what I was say he's just under the guys of if she's out on a ski trip, maybe he feels more endearing and is more likely to cheat because she's not on the same side of the country. I don't know.

But it seems to me that he looks for excuses because then he can back himself up and be like, well, you know, we just went to law problem as friends or whatever. We didn't even get to hear why, like the reaction to him taking somebody else to law problem, not even at the fucking reunion. He's starting to get the Shet voice too.

You're really getting them. Once you start to turn into certain things and you're from Charleston, it just starts to come out naturally. You start to sound more and more like this. dude until you're full shot bro this is just a natural progression tell me it's not the same timeline the only difference is that will has a job like that's literally the only fucking difference here and he's still a nepo baby not to the the level of chef obviously yeah but he does

clearly have family money like he's going down the same path and he's the same kind of guy and maybe this is this is why everyone in charleston says it's so hard to fucking date in charleston maybe there's a ton of these dudes out there we've seen a lot of shitting and so i don't fucking know But production asked TJ, and this is a valid question with a solid response, I believe, because they've made it clear, we don't want you guys involved in our shit. You and I have also talked about other relationships throughout these shows, not just Southern Hospitality. We've made that point before where it's like at a certain point, you have to let these people do what they're going to do. This is different because it's so blatant. That's what I think the difference is.

And what TJ says, he's like, look, I understand what they said that, but I know if I was, in her shoes, I would want somebody to say this to me. So I respect that. I agree with that. And I also think the difference is in other instances that we've seen on any other show, when somebody muddies the water with a rumor or they are in the wrong place at the wrong time or somebody spots them with somebody else, it's a one-off because then they know they're in the spotlight and they're like, I'm not going to do anything stupid again. What we have with Will is just repeat behavior over and over. He hasn't shifted his behavior in any way, shape, or form. So it's like, it keeps happening. So at some point, yeah, they told us

the butt out, but Emmys by a fucking friend. Like, it's, and it's also like in this group of friends, like cameras are not, you guys are close-knit to an extent you're working together as well. So you're seeing all of the fallout that happens. Like, it's not just a one-off situation where a group of friends has to deal with this. And the couple can just butt out. They can just go their separate ways, stay away from the friends altogether and do their own thing. And then eventually you know that they're going to break up and at least one of them's going to come back and it's going to be messy. This is something that they all have to deal with on a day-to-day basis, something that they all have to deal with on this show. At some point, they're going to hit

their boiling point. And I think TJ hit his boiling point a while ago because he's just trying to help Emmy. Michael's was also in that boat. He was just trying to help Emmy. But Michael's has a lot going on. He's dating Preston. He's got enough going on with his family. He's had so many separate things. And he's also the best manager that we've ever seen on a show like this. So he cares about does work he has removed himself from all of it because he tried in his mind he tried with emmy which he did and she completely gave him the ringer like put him through the ringer like no yeah everything's fine i'm going to deny everything i appreciate it and like placated everything that he said by saying i appreciate you coming over but don't worry about me everything's fine he bought out

after watching her at lake's house fine tj has to deal with this all the time brad has to deal with this all the time everybody's talking about it's all anybody's talking about and will is refusing to just take any accountability so they're pissed and i get everyone's not it's not just about helping emmy anymore because at some point you are going to look at emmy and say if this is what you want to do then do it just keep us the fuck out of it because we're tired of it but she's not there yet they're not there yet and will's not giving them anything so this is the point where everybody's like fuck it like let's just do it let's go after him let's bring up all these rumors let's just put it all in front of them because he's avoided us for so long came out to vegas gave us a whole fucking

excuse about being bullied. Now we're sitting at law prom and we've got this information and he's still not taking any accountability. Let's just lay it out for him. No, I completely agree. And to add on to that whole thing, the extra ump from everybody is coming from, you're not only messing with Emmy and your relationship. You're putting your friendships in weird spots too. Right. So that, like, they feel betrayed. They feel lied to. You're lying to your girlfriend. There's so many different dynamics at play here. And he doesn't see any of that. That's his biggest shortcoming he does not spot all of the fallout that's going on he's just focused on you guys are accusing me it's like yeah but all of these other things are happening as a result once

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lives anyway. Welcome to Night Vale is available wherever you get your podcasts. Molly quickly became one of my favorites throughout her journey on this show. Her and G. Lily, this was awesome. If G. Lily walks up, she goes, wow, you look great. She's like, I know. She's like, what's that about. She's like, literally goes and like waves are off. It's like the only thing that G. Lilly would do because I feel like the way that she goes into situations like that, she expects a compliment back. She wants a compliment right back. And if she doesn't get it, she's like, wait, what? She's going to catch that. Usually in a situation, G. Lili is just going to be in her own little world and not actually understand what you're saying back to her. But she wants

that compliment. She wants a bet. Give me that compliment back. What the fuck was that? What do you mean? I look pretty. Say I look pretty. Tell me I look pretty. No, but I thought it was awesome because she she doesn't give a shit molly does not care and she is like or gila is like can we go talk real quick she's like yeah whatever and they go sit down and she's like i don't really know why you have an attitude like i just gave you a compliment you're really rude back like i think you need to work on your character it's like oh that's the like the last thing you should have probably set you just walked in here with a dude you hooked up with while your friend was hooking up with him who still has a problem with you who just handed up you handed a little

a load a gun to Molly at this point. Here, shoot me back. Boom. It's like, it was so stupid. You probably could have avoided this entire situation. That just shows Grace has no foresight. And when she's talking about bringing O'Sheen, it's like, I still don't get it. Like you don't understand how this would affect Maddie.

Like you had a conversation with her last week saying, I understand that this put a strain in our relationship. And I'm going to do everything I can to make sure everything's cool with Eva to make sure it's cool with you. Now it's like, I'm going to bring O'Shea. None of that happened. And there's not going to be an issue with this. None of that happened.

How did she not understand any of this? And by sitting here saying something to Molly, who really has nothing to lose? And we've seen this all season for Molly. I think she's a great addition to the group. Oh, phenomenal. She is, she's not really close enough to everybody for it to be like a, I'm defending my friend. I think this is more like, I see you treating your friend like shit, who I'm somewhat close to when I work with and I like Maddie. No, I don't care what you're going to say.

I have no allegiance to you at all. I think you're just a checker to be like yeah I've spotted you and I don't care for you I'm going to tell you and it hasn't it really doesn't have to do like she is defending Maddie but that's not the root of it she's like I'm just going to call this out because nobody else seems to be calling it out you're like a shitty person yeah you're like you slap all of your friends in the face she's like no no I don't do that she's like you just walked in with O'Shee it's like her response is just this yep she's just doing this if you're not watching YouTube you miss not Props to the editors, too. Throw it in the sparkles. Yeah, why not? Throw some special effects in there. She's waving her energy. You have bad energy.

It's like, bruh, you just walked in here and forced a problem after having a conversation that you're going to clean up the problem. You are a horrible, horrible friend. The fact that Maddie and her are still close at the reunion makes me question Maddie. She is going to torch you again. she's not a good friend she is selfish as shit i think it's one of those friendships where like every time that grace does something that like obviously bothers mattie she's still going to be friends with her but it's not going to affect her as much moving forward

oh jeal is going to see it oh i see what you're saying yeah i think that like the vaguest thing like you can you can kind of see where they are already where mattie's saying in a confessional and she's saying to other people you know i expected her to show up late or not whatever i'm just happy that she even showed up to begin with okay great but here During Grace, hear that and say, well, you think I'm a bad friend? Yes. Horrible. You're still here.

You're still in my life. And I think that every time she does something like this, it's going to affect Maddie less and less. And eventually they'll just get to a point where it's like, yeah, that's Grace. She's going to do whatever the fuck she wants. I'm not even going to bother me. Quote, wavy baby. Wavey baby apparently means be an asshole. That's the definition of wavy baby.

Yeah. Remeditated too. It's vindictive. Like for, you get called out for being a bad friend. You say you're going to squash it. you're going to make everything you're going to make amends with eva but you we we know watching at home o'shine doesn't live in charleston so you must have invited him you said let's bring him out what are your motives for that not because o'shine's fun and maybe he is to be shitty it's not yeah

you're just trying to be a shitty friend and create some sort of hysteria and you did it but at what cost now everybody just thinks that you're a terrible friend so i just don't understand the motive thought you're a terrible friend you just confirmed their suspicion yeah but mollie keeps just pressing her, which I love. And G. Lily's defense now, we haven't heard this. I think we heard it one time before, or was that clip of that like a cut see? I don't know. But clearly this is not what went down because when you're talking to Maddie one-on-one about this quote-unquote apology you're planning on giving, this didn't come up. And this would have come up. And it's one of those things that doesn't also really matter in my mind where she's holding on to. She asked Eva if this

was cool. And Eva's like, I don't really care. We're not dating. I don't believe that. happened. And even if it did, even if it did, shitting where you eat never pans out. And any rational person would be like, I'll probably stay away from that one because they are romantically involved in some way, shape, or form. And we are a tight click. Probably shouldn't do this. Probably a really bad idea, regardless of the nod from Eva. So one, I don't believe it happened. And two, even if it did, use your brain. I'm still not going to because that would be mean to you and probably pretty awkward and maybe throw a wrench into this little tripod friendship that we have here.

Lo and behold, it certainly did. So regardless of it, you fucked up. And Maddie gets involved, rightfully so, because this makes her look so dumb for standing up for G. Lilley for having the conversation like before prom with Eva. And then this happens. G. Lily defends and she's like, she told me this and that.

And they both come over there now and they're both denying that that ever happened. Now, Grace is yelling at Maddie. You're not a good friend. She's like, I'm your best friend. She's like, no, you're not. I'm like, you just lost your only friend. Because apparently the only people that want to, like, pal around with you are people like O'Sheen.

And you are who you surround yourself with. If that's your crew and your click, you're a shitty person because he is a shitty person. I'd imagine the other two that walked in with you are also shitty people. Most likely. They're guilty by association at this point. I don't really care. So, again, choices have concert. consequences. How about that? So have some more site. How will this affect my friendship with Maddie, whom I just talked about this with? Probably not good. Oh, don't invite O'Sheen. Got it. How hard is it to get to that point? Honestly. Not very, but it's Grace Lilly. So. Yeah. The best part is out of the left field. She's like, yeah, like you sucked his dick into loom regarding O'Sheen. And Maddie's like,

what and joe's literally like it looks like he just got shot he's like oh god he goes to confession he's like la la la la la la i'm like exactly how you should have responded yeah do not give it any weight it's not true nobody believes it don't buy in let it go just move past this one talk to her later be like hey that that didn't happen right and as soon as she says no drop it because you know and you ask mattie you don't you don't involve o sheen because that he's the type of guy that will perpetuate and allow that rumor to just give life. He'll just, he'll deny it, but not fully denying it.

He'll be like, yeah, no, you know, we were drunk that night, I don't really remember it. Yep, that that'll be it. That's what he's going to do. He wants people to think that that happens because it gives him more, but it gives him clout, but we already know that they smooched. She said we had a moment in Tulum. We already are aware of that. That comes into play at the reunion.

Gee Lily, once again, showing worst friend on the planet, yet Maddie is stricken by her somehow i don't fucking get it no i joe's reaction was awesome la la la la la la but anyway yeah yeah that's the right move just walk away don't get involved it's not worth it but mattie's seemingly over it she's not as we find out at the reunion but in this moment she's like bye bitch walks away grace has the balls to go to a confessioner and be like mattie has not been a good friend to me it's like mattie's been a great friend to you and then she brings up when she was going through the trevor shit i'm like totally different than what you're going through completely different one thousand percent different or the fact that real

friends don't pick sides also different you put her at a horrible spot very different with the ocean thing that was your doing and mattie had to try to navigate between you and her fucking roommate bro her roommate she signed a lease she can't just leave this is all you literally but she's like she just wasn't there for me but i was there for trevor and it's like so what that's apples to oranges we're not talking about the same thing dude it's so frustrating and literally i'm like yes For TV, great. She's entertaining.

She does wacky shit, Fonnier, ha, ha, ha. As a person, I do not love G-Lillian anymore. She sucks. Ass. She doesn't need to do this.

She's a terrible friend, and it also doesn't do her any favors for the show because if you're not friends with Maddie anymore, who's going to call you their friends on the show? Nobody likes you.

Nobody really likes you, and we find out more in the reunion. Nobody really likes you. Just Maddie at this point. You want to be on this show? You want to be on this show still? think this is good for your career. You think this is good for you moving forward.

Be nice to the people that like you. Make friends with Joe. Make amends with everybody else. Be around a little bit more. That would be great. Otherwise, you're going to get the boot because you have no connection anymore. No,

nobody on this. I mean, they all seem to like, oh yeah, Grace, like she's fine or whatever. And then some people don't like her out. It's like,

oh, yeah, grace, cool. Yeah, that's the vibe she gives now. It's like, oh, Grace is here. Anyway,

what else is going on? Like, that's it. She has a funny one liner and then we move on. or she's late for salvage and takes no accountability, whatever. But we get Michael's Emmy and Will. And Michaels brings up the whole thing about Will calling Allie's brother. And he says, I sent one text.

And then Emmy says it. Yeah, and he denied everything. And if he denied everything, then there was more than one text. Like, I'm look, this is how much I'm nitpicking now because I'm trying to find any out. And I, like, just from his vernacular, the way that he's using big words. I'm like, you're trying to lawyer this whole fucking situation because, you think, as T.J. says, that you're better than everybody, that you're smarter than everybody. Just because you have a good vocabulary doesn't mean you're smarter because we've spotted

this shit for two years. Just because attenuated doesn't actually work in this situation. That's a good point. That's a good point. I mean, he's a dumb lawyer that throws around word off. It wasn't completely off. It wasn't close. It wasn't the right. But my whole thing is, dude, like he knows that. Going into that and saying attenuated. like he's trying to shit on them and be like you yes you can't understand what i'm saying to you it's the type of person that he is yeah it's just so stupid but emmy maintains that it's all austin's brother it's the only connection but the only connection has now been vindicated he's like blindsided like what are you talking about like i don't i didn't even know that they were dating anymore

like what the hell's going on and we get the bully clip again for like the fifth time which is i even wrote bully clip five x yeah awesome just play it play a whole episode of the bully clip but he confirmed what it is he says it tenuated and that means that you can take all that false info and shove it up your ass it's like yeah i don't know why we have to handle it all like nothing has been vindicated nothing has been set for you at all all he said is that he's not involved that it it's not nobody's seen it it's not they haven't heard it from other people he wasn't involved he's indicated here's the thing too when new information is presented to us as we typically do we change our line of thinking we've been saying it's probably because all of the

evidence points to it austin's girlfriend's brother that's starting all of this yeah he may have bullied will whatever maybe he started the rumor maybe he's talking other people no he didn't i will buy that he didn't but now we're finding out that tj is hearing from another vip person at republic that people are talking about this so it's more than just austin's girlfriend's brother it's now other people that are in charleston That's, what, 45 minutes away from this law school? Lo and behold, more people go to this school that have some sort of ties to Charleston. So this rumor could have started from anywhere. And if other people are talking about this brunette that's walking with him on campus and staying at his apartment and he's taken her to law prom, there's more people talking about this.

And unfortunately, bravo boy, people watch the show and they know who you are. So people are going to talk about it and it's going to get back to people at Republic because they think, and this is the shitty part about being on reality. TV, they think they're going to create waves for themselves by putting this out there, by telling a Brad, by telling a TJ, by telling somebody who's closely associated with Republic, it's going to get back to them and it's going to show up on TV. And that person can sit on their couch on a Thursday night and say, yeah, I did that. That's me. Nobody's going to find out. That's all me. It's not all his girlfriend's brother. It's me. That's what's going to happen. So it doesn't really matter. The problem here and has always been the problem. It still is. You cheated on

your girlfriend. And if you didn't full cheat or hard cheat, as Austin likes to say, which I still fucking laugh at. If you didn't hard cheat on your girlfriend, you're at least putting stuff out there that people can take and throw back at Emmy. And it's creating a shitstorm for Eni to deal with because you're not helping or deal with it. That's what's going on. So no, nothing was vindicated. You are not set free. You're not completely in the right. None of those things have happened. So I don't know why they're sitting there like, oh yeah. You guys are just scrablin why i know exactly why because it's something that they can prove right tangible they can say you're yeah exactly it's tangible evidence so that they can point to big see

you told you they would have taken any nugget that they had yeah and he said this yeah any w points to them being like see you guys are all lying it's like no now this is all thrown out though yeah it's not at all because by the way not one person has said that it's austin's brother they or ali's brother they think it is But they've now gotten other evidence throughout this episode. Nobody's like staunchly defended that and said like it's definitely him. Austin even said at the run club, like it's definitely not him. He doesn't even know that we're dating again, which we get confirmed.

So all you've done is remove Allie's brother. Everything else is still up for grabs. But they're both acting like, ha ha, we won the case. If the glove fits, like it's so stupid. Why is nobody apologizing to us? Like, what? You haven't done anything about. We should apologize to Allie's brother.

brother we'll apologize yeah yeah for texting him this morning ruining his day no probably not but probably not mea takes charge thank god because at this juncture i'm irritated i'm like we've been skipping around this we've had the same conversation six times with austin let somebody do this and so mea literally grabs him and like drags him over then says talk this shit out now do this now like you keep doing this that the other thing like let's go this is bullshit thank you mea for speaking for us at home we really appreciate it and you get austin will and emmy what the fuck what is going through her brain that she walks out onto the the porch on the second floor and goes you think i'd survive if i jumped it's like what excuse me it's like i think i

think it'd be fine it's like why are you what are you jumping for what do we i don't know are you okay just kind of shows like where her brain is right now that's what i got i know and i'm like making not not like a if i jump not at all like no it's just like it was about unaliving herself if you I think it was much more about just like she's trying to make jokes. She's trying to like, she's just erratic. It's weird. It's exactly. It's erratic.

You're like, where is this coming from? Because this is kind of a bizarre thing to say to start this conversation off. And TJ and Bradley join. And then everyone starts to like trickle it. And Will's like, absolutely not. They're not part of this. It's like, no, no, no, no, dude. Because of your mess, because of how ridiculous you are, you have involved everybody in this friend group.

Because they're going out on King Street and having randoms come up to them. and bring this whole thing up they're having people from other bars come up to them this is your doing for being an idiot so no they all get to be part of this not to mention you and emmy have been talking smack on every single one of these people because they're questioning because they're trying to get to the bottom of it because they're trying to protect your girlfriend which you have no no plan of doing so at least somebody's looking out for her well-being so no everyone gets to be involved in this entire conversation but we know that he can't stand up to anybody we know We can't sit there and take it.

So what do they do? They do what they always do. They tuck tail and they run. They run away because they're little children that have to deny the truth. They want to act like none of this happened. All these people have tried to do is be your friend. That's all they've tried to do, Emmy. And they've like genuinely up until like recently, they've tried to do it in a respectful manner.

You're just not hearing them. So that's not on them. But they definitely get to be a part of this conversation. And after they run away, Michaels goes after him, Joe goes after him, and T.J. goes after him and then Bradley joins a little bit later. Joey calls him out. He's like every single time this comes up, you run away. You don't realize that's drawing more suspicions to you because you can't just stand up and clear the air. Give your defense. Tell us what's up because if you don't, what are we left with? Well, this is this is what infuriates us even more watching all of this

because we've watched Emmy and I'm sure it infuriates Joe and Bradley and TJ too. We've watched emmy had to stand in it like yes she did run away from lake's house and had will's brother come pick her up or whatever but yeah you can kind of see that in a different light and say she was teamed up on and she shouldn't have to be in that situation will put her in that situation the friends didn't the friends won answers because they've been dealing with it for weeks she's been dealing with it for weeks they don't want to try to this by the they didn't try to aggressively go after her yeah maybe they could have changed a couple of things and i'm sure if they rewatch that they probably change a couple of things that they said, sure, whatever, but people get hot and bothered when they have to deal with

the same thing that doesn't have anything to do with them for weeks. And Will is not there to answer for himself. Now that he is there to answer for himself, and once again, he is there, he runs away. Like, you don't get to run away anymore. Emmy has had to stand in it and stand on business and try to explain herself out of what Will did. And that's unfair. You don't get to now stand here while we have you in our grasp and run away. It's just not going to work that way. You're not some big tough guy you get bullied at law school like you're clearly not tough so you get up to set up Bravo boy you realize that's them recognizing that you're on TV like you make money you have shut up and we've watched you put this story together about Allie's brother in Vegas even if you have

a story you know that people are going to come after you know it's on camera you know it's getting towards the end of the season they want some payoff if that's how you're going to look at it I don't look at it that way I think they just want to answer it's because they've had to deal with it just fucking come up with something I don't care if it's it's the worst excuse in the world or a lie or whatever stand there and take it and it would start to go away if you stand there and take it they're going to go away in some capacity yeah there's still going to be questions yeah they're still going to want answers to certain things fine but you've addressed it maybe tj's addressed it and then you have a leg to stand on when tj comes after you

maybe tj won't be satisfied with your answer and he's going to continue to do some digging and bring it back to you you have a leg to stand on now because you can say t j are we're going to fucking do this forever. Are you going to constantly be texting people? Then it puts a bad omen on T.J. People like Brad will probably go away. Like, fine, whatever. He addressed it.

Joe will probably go away because it's the easier path. TJ might not, but you can stand there and say, I address this. You asked me last week. You ruined the whole fucking problem. Put it on him. I don't care what you have to do. That's what you have to do in this situation. You have to stand there and take it.

Just like Emmy has the entire summer. That's the biggest part. She's had to deal with it. Now you have to deal with it. You don't get to run every time. She hasn't had the opportunity because even when she tried to, she had to wait for his brother to come pick her up. So no.

Like you just said, say something. Say literally anything other than running away. But I'm glad that T.J. had a moment to like air it out a little bit. I think he needed to get this office, Jess. Because he's like, you fucking suck. You think you're better than everybody.

I'm like, yeah. Yeah, he does. He's a loser too. Say that. But the softest argument comes from young William in a confession. He's like, T.J. always need somebody to hate it's like don't do that is tj reactive absolutely does he does he

carry his emotions on his sleeve 100% do i believe he is well-intentioned and a good person sure 100% absolutely because the reason he's this reactive is he really cares about these people that's what i've gathered from it but he has these big reactions he talks some shit he stirs the pot we know he likes to gossip a little bit that's just who he is he's not a bad dude by any any stretch of the imagination He's a solid guy. So for the fact that you're going to be like, first it was McKell in season one. It's like season one, dude, really? And then we go to season two and then we go to season three.

And it's like he had beef with people as most people do on reality shows. Like you're a lawyer. This is the best you can come up with. You're the top 10% in your class? How many people are in that class? 10? You number 10? Like, what are we talking about here?

Well, I guess he still would be the top percentage. He would be number one. I know, thanks. I got that. As soon as I said it, I am not great at math, but I'm also not stupid. I'd feel stupid. Second episode. It's all right.

Yeah, there you go. Blame it on that. But they keep getting into it. And, you know, he calls out Emmy and says, you're letting him control your mind. Like, he's, he's irritated. He's upset because his friends have kind of cast his, that's the other part that they don't recognize. You're calling into question your friend's character that they want. to perpetuate this shit as i've said all season nobody wants to talk about this now want to do

this this is awkward they're forced to do it because again they're hearing in bars that you're talking shit about your girlfriend then they're hearing that you're moving in with somebody on campus that's the root of all of this so again if he's got a big reaction the worst thing you could do the worst thing that you could do is laughing his face giggle about it belittle the whole situation at the very least stand there and listen and then respond because that's what a lawyer would do that's what a adult would do you know what a child would do you're going to cry now i would have fucking teed off on him i would have punched him in the teeth like the fact that he didn't i was actually impressed with his reaction he's yeah whatever if some if a fucking grown man said that to me

i would open palm slap him and be like what did you just say like that was so disrespectful it disregards all it's the cycle of bullying that's what happened i i i you're right you're will got bullied by somebody stronger than him so now he thinks he's stronger than tj he's going to bully him i guess like that's so that that's not that tracks i guess but yeah they bring up the girl that apparently her people her people do hurt people you're right but tj brings up after the laughing and giggling the girl that he's apparently living with he's like well i know who you cheated with and the fact that will had a response i'm like hello what he's like the blank girl i'm like mm-hmm who's that that's not even who we're

talking about i don't think like wearing but yeah why are we blanking that because that person's not involved in the show i'd imagine so it's like throwing them under the bus like what's the name i or maybe a location i don't really know but like again we're not even talking about that one i don't think it's like who's that one probably not there's two if you have multiple responses to i know who you're cheating with he's like think this girl no no what right yeah should we be asking about her I'm not cheating with with Abigail like who's that like what did you just shoot yourself in the I didn't know it's so weird but their defense is that they went away for a weekend she needed a place to stay sleep on my couch sleep it's fine the best point honestly is me as like this is the unfriendliest motherfucker I know there's no way he did that first and foremost second what not one person on campus would be thinking that this chick moved in with you if they just saw her at your place for a weekend. Yeah.

Not one person because that doesn't make any sense. That doesn't make any sense at all unless she was moving like you claim and she moved all of the boxes into your apartment for a night and then move them back out the following day, which also makes no sense. So none of your story makes sense. Once again, Esquire, we are left with so many question marks. But if I look on the other side of this squabble, they have. receipts, proof, timeline, screenshots. They got everything. So I'm not going to sit here and listen to your bullshit when I know for a fact,

they have evidence. They're talking to other people and your defense stinks. It's not even a good one. This makes no sense. You lent her the apartment for two days because you guys were in New York. No, it makes no sense. And your whole thing is like, I told her that she had to be out. It's like, if you're taking that strong of a stance telling somebody they

have to be out before you get back why are you letting her why are you letting her stay there in the first place right like why can't you get back oh you're still here do you need help moving your shit could you imagine like if you have a friend like of of the opposite sex and you're allowing them to stay at your place you're like yeah dev and i are away for the weekends like we'll be back on Sunday but you have to be out before we get back what definitely why why why why does she to leave before we get back like uh like what's your response to that she's messy what doesn't make any sense dude like the the ultimatum or the time to like time frame that you must be out by this time fucking bizarre it it just doesn't like that's not logical clearly should not be staying there

in the first place if they if you're not cool with like coming back into the place and seeing them there like it does not make sense it's illogical we don't fuck with illogical around here doesn't if it doesn't make sense to us we're not going to buy it that doesn't make sense And, like, you think that's like a feather in your cap, too. Like, I'm a stand-up person. I'm not going to have her around Emmy. Like, no. What?

If Emmy's going to go to a confessional and say, yeah, I'm not threatened by this brunette girl that's walking around with him on campus, he let her stay there for a weekend. And she was gone before we got back. Like, just the implication from him that it would be weird for Emmy is weird. That's that draws. Yeah. All of it doesn't make any goddamn sense. They think that it answers every question that speaks to his character. But in reality, it just raises more questions.

It's like, all right, you're close enough with her that you're going to allow her to stay there, but you want to keep her away from Emmy or you and the implications. Like, it's sketchy. The whole thing is so sketchy. It doesn't make any goddamn sense to me. But TJ says to Emmy, it's like, look, this dude's going to fuck you over. It's a matter of time. But when it happens, I will still be there for you to pick up the pieces.

So I'm proud of him for saying that. Sure. The response is not everyone's miserable, TJ is a great response. Just fucking you guys. Are you kidding me? Yeah. We just watched you both mope around on the front porch of your own party for two hours. Yeah.

Yeah. And then complain about crab cakes instead of sushi. We've watched you guys alone together. You look miserable. And like, Emmy talks for Will. And how is Emmy going to come away from that being like, I'm so happy.

I did that. Like going into it, you were excited to have this whole prom thing. Everybody else kind of rolled their eyes. Like, yeah, it's a little weird. We've heard some rumors about Will's law prom. But yeah,

let's go throw Will a party and like, let's have a prom here because I wasn't able to make it. You were excited going into it. You were happy going into it. You wanted to do all these things. You're not really that pissed off about the sushi. That's just one thing. You're really going to come away from this whole thing that you put all of this

fucking effort into and be miserable. And they're not because now they're completely diluted. And Emmy's getting thrown into it too. Because at some point, again, we're going to stop feeling bad for Emmy because we have to keep watching it. It's like, all right. At some point, you do have all of these flags at all. all of these signs pointing to I should probably not be in a relationship with this guy.

But yet here I am. You just threw a whole party and you were miserable the entire time. And then left early. Like, why did you throw the party in the first place then? Then you left. You could have done something else to end it. Like, it's just insane to me. I hope everyone that stayed had like the best night of their life.

Oh, dude. Yeah. I hope they just. And I bet they did. I hope there was nowhere. Yeah. Shut up. Damn it.

I don't. But Emmy tries to point to the. back that every time you guys have tried to have my back it's been behind my back and it's like no it's because every time they try to do it one on one you would deny everything and accuse them back and like yell at them multiple people try to talk to you solo you just wouldn't have it everything wraps up those two leave jealantly tries to talk to daddy like i know we're both upset girl she's like fuck off like not now go away to way way too soon by the way and in the in the street you have Emmy screaming, and she's like,

if they want me to ruin their lives right now, and now we know what she was talking about, it's like, that's what you were sitting on that you thought was going to, quote, quote, ruin their lives? Like, this is your big bombshell, and you get this cut scene from 10 days ago,

and it's Will in the kitchen talking to production, and he's like, well, there is one thing that we haven't discussed, and, you know, Maddie hasn't been activated at all season, and now I'm being a producer of this show because I produce my girlfriend's life.

or why would that like I don't know it would just you're just ruining like she came away from that relationship you can still see that there's some like growing pains that have to happen because she had to go through all of that why like what's the point it was months and months and months ago it's not like what their point is like when we get to it is the dumbest idea that you think that this somehow and I'll save it for the reunion episodes and we're about to do that but it's so dumb to think that this is like another feather in your cap as you've been saying to be like so you told you so it's like that's you did this is not and i got you believe it or not all the things that you guys

have done all the things that will is done still the question we still don't believe you so answer some goddamn questions and speaking of questions let's get to some questions uh this is a great starting question from uh it's not even a question but i agree with it from beck buck first of his hot dogs now will doesn't say now will says that he doesn't like crab cakes he is the actual worst yeah i didn't like crab cakes was yeah or from charleston like they got to have great soft shell grab there and like great crab in general like it doesn't make sense none of it makes sense none of it makes sense i will read this one because they could have pulled a christend dotie from vpr from grass bouch need them to step up their game and bring the girls on the show will

is cheating with correct yeah Yeah, when nobody flew out that chick. That's, and that's, I think, the problem, they're not well off enough. We want them to be in the sweet spot where they're making some money, but they still have to work at Republic. They might have a little bit of extra money to fly somebody out or drive somebody out from law school to. Joe can use an Uber since he does that for 45 minutes. Dude, he's probably got like an Uber credit card at this point. Well, that'd be cool.

Get some points. Oh, this is funny just to corroborate from Reschievous. Not anti-confrontation, Austin going around to everyone but will thoughts. Yeah, right. Yeah, it's embarrassing. Oh, God, dude. From Chandler andler. Who was the biggest voice of reason when things started melting down at the finale?

Mia. Mia probably, I mean, but TJ was, he was just enthusiastic what he was saying. Like, just because he was losing it a little bit. It's reasonable. What he was saying was 100% factual. What Joe was saying was factual. factual what Bradley was saying. Like, everybody but Will and Emmy, probably.

This one is just funny. From Mrs. Carter 1016, used to love Grace Lilly. She is so full of herself also just because of how they tried so valiantly to spell O'Shee's name. O-H-I-S-N. Oh, H-I-S-I-N. I believe it's O-I-N. Yeah, I think so.

The record. Let's do one more. I've got another statement here from Bailey Clem. Not a question, but as somebody who has been to law prom, the Soho problem is far better. So apparently law prop sucks. Well, there you go. This is a good one to end it on from I'm Anisa B. Why is this show only 10 episodes?

Also, for sure, we are having Will on, right? If he wants to come on. We'll see how it goes. But, yeah, this show needs to be longer. But again, we've agreed. We've all agreed. You guys listening are also going to agree. Keep them humble.

Keep them humble as long as we. can god damn it because once they get to that level this show will change and we will be sad you know what they say in vpr these are the best days of our lives that's what this show is at right now so don't sure are we're all with you but let's not push it let's just enjoy what we have for the time that we haven't how about that no yeah no you got anything else nope that's it well that's our show bros got to go record the reunion episode number three of the day buckle uh yeah Isn't that lovely? Are you looking for a movie review show where the critic is at the top of his or her game,

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