Bros & Shows - Put The Flamingo Away, Simon w/ Preston Mitchum (Summer House: Martha's Vineyard Recap)

Episode Date: May 13, 2024

What's up Bro's? We have a very special recap today of Martha's Vineyard featuring the one and only Preston Mitchum. In this episode, we talk to Preston about what his time on the show has been like, the transition from normal life to reality stardom and what his experience has been with it all. Preston discusses his work as an attorney as well as his advocacy and work for civil rights regarding both the black and the LGBTQIA+ community. Then we recap last week's Martha's Vineyard episode where we get Preston's take on Mariah and Phil, as well as the drama escalating between Summer and the rest of the house. This was an incredible interview and we really got to learn a lot about Preston beyond the show, and let me just say, what an interesting and amazing guy. This was an absolute blast and we hope you guys enjoy it! All that and more on todays episode! Introducing BravBros Members! Offering exclusive access, bonus episodes, monthly Q&A zoom and more! Use the link below to join! https://thebros.memberful.com/join Time Stamps Intro: 0-1:30 Preston Interview: 1:30-34:00 SH:MV recap: 34:01 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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I don't need the spotlight I shine just fine hi I'm karma and yes I am a bitch brav bros good evening everybody and welcome back to another episode of brav bros your favorite podcast from the bros for everybody for whoever wants to listen I am your co-host Steele Russell, joined as always by Shooter Magouter. And we have a very special guest today, joining us from Summer House Martha's Vineyard, our favorite cast member, Preston Mitchum, is joining the show. What's up, man? Nothing much.

Happy to be here, though. So happy to be here. Yeah, this is great. Great timing, too, because we just had a really good episode last night. So we get to hear your thoughts on that in real time, which is something that Steele and I love to do, because we can never keep track of the timeline. So we're going to put your knowledge to the test because I always wonder if people are watching at home, if they're going home after being on the show and rewatching again as we're watching. So we're going to really really put you through the ringer here, of course.

I'm ready. We ask really tough and invasive questions. We do. As uncomfortable as possible. No. No, it is perfect. You know what? It's amazing how used to uncomfortable questions that I am, even before the show.

So more than happy to answer. then you'll be just fine no we're honestly just really excited to have you on we um we love martha's vineyard we've loved both seasons so far we are trying to champion this show so that more people start watching um we talked to kandis about it at our live show this past weekend and you know you guys have such a great kind of bond that we don't really see especially right out of the gate and the other thing that's so great about martha's vineyard is you guys are genuine Like a lot of times you get overproduced shit on these shows, then something that resonated with us pretty much out of the gate

was the fact that everyone seems to be their authentic self. And that's something that we don't get to see a lot. Kind of building on top of that, I just wanted to ask you, how did you get involved with this show? What was step one for Preston getting onto Martha's Vineyard? Yeah, so I had already vacationed on the Vineyard for a couple of years before we even kind of got vetted for the show release approached. and there were a group of people who were on the vineyard already

when basically the approach happened and it was a picture. It was really by way of a simple picture that was posted going to an all-white party. And then after that, after a casting director reached out to Jordan's and kind of like, hey, are these your actual friends? Do these people want to be on a show? Do you all know other people who may not be here but will make sense for this show because you're friends with them? And this, the personality dynamics would mesh or would it mesh? And so, like, how do we start having those conversations? And

i was one of the ones that they suggested and then it kind of just came from there i think after that we really just had oh my god tons of interviews like i can't even like at one point i want to think like i don't want this no this is too many interviews um but honestly after what felt like 50 interviews and discussions um you know kind of one thing led to another and it all end up working out and so that's but it really honestly started from a simple picture being posted on instagram wow that's incredible honestly um Now, I mean, obviously, you get through everything. Do you watch other Bravo shows?

Did you know what to kind of expect? Yeah. Yeah, I watch a lot of, so back of the day, I watched so much reality TV, it will make your head spin. And then for Bravo in particular, yes, for sure. What's your show? On Bravo? Yeah.

Like old seasons of Atlanta. Okay. That's a great thing. Like, I'm talking about like episodes, like seasons one through eight, one through nine. Like, those to me were like such quintessential bravo moments that. that I will always go back to. And honestly, it's funny. I won Thanksgiving.

Me and three other friends had a friend's giving, and I will never forget we were watching seasons one through three of Atlanta. It was over a couple of days, of course. And so as we were watching it, though, there were so many moments that now I really pay attention to two being on TV. Because there was one thing where Nimi was talking to Kim, and I kid you not, it was so funny how many times this coffee cup was moved on the table next to them.

Was it driving you nuts? Yeah, like, you can figure like, oh, my God, why this coffee cup not there? This person is in the same spot. Like, it was just so fascinating to me because, you know, obviously editing happens in that way sometimes. Yeah. But that was actually one of the moments. I'm like, huh, I'm paying attention to the wrong things, but it's still funny. I disagree.

That's what I do. It drives me nuts. I'll watch movies with the same mindset. And I'll, like, pause it. And my wife's like, what are you doing? I'm like, that water bottle I wasn't there before. She's like, it gives this shit. I'm like, well, whatever.

No, it's continuity, though. So it really does, it does make sense, though, like for you to be like, no, I know that wasn't there. Yeah, you know, the suspension of belief. I need to not see the water bottle there, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, Steele and I do the same thing with those things as well. And honestly, a lot of the times I'll point to, like, a character will have a speech but is back to you the whole time. Like, he's not talking. No, this is a voiceover.

And it drives me crazy. And Steele and I talk about it. And everybody else is like, dude, just watch the damn movie. Who cares? No, no. Oh, but I really hate misplaced voiceovers. And so it actually happened to, it actually happened to me one time this season. Yeah.

Did it with what? I don't say that or I didn't say it there. I don't even remember the exact moment it happened, but I just knew. I could even see the sides of my mouth moving. And I'm like, that's not actually the words that were coming out at that time. Yes. We've been trained now. You know, we've done this.

We're coming up on two years, I think next week, dude, which is wild. Wow. but we always try to pay attention to those moments like where their productions entering the scene a little bit and they're kind of mixing things around and it makes it harder to break it down because you're like i don't think they said that right there i think they cut that in there to try to throw people off the scent but as you're on reality tv and you already said shooter before you got on he was in philly for like five days okay they're like the pen relays and stuff like that but he said that first of all he loved it which is great yeah second of all a group of women stopped in the middle of the street in the car because they recognized him. Awesome. Yeah, this is great. And Philly's great. It gets a bad rap, but when you come here, everyone's nice.

We're just a little rough around the edges. Yeah. But you know what? It's so funny. I love Philly. Every time I'm there, so one of my good, good friends born raised in Philly, went back for a few years before he came back to D.C. I've never had a bad time.

Like, I think Philly, even though Philly is much bigger than where I'm from in Ohio, Philly, it just reminds me of the same hood that I grew up in. So, like, it's very reminiscent. So I just appreciated the love. But when someone was there and they were giving me a lot of love, they were like, listen, two things off Philly. If they love you, they will tell you.

If they hate you, they will tell you. So, wait, hold you. I love that this is supposed to be a moment where we're like, oh, that's so nice that Preston got recognized. Literally anywhere. Steele took it as a time to be like, oh, Philly's great, though, right?

but that's got to defend your city yes you do that wasn't no the point is that it's really nice that preston was noticed for the good work that he does on martha's vineyard not that philly's a nice city i got interrupted i was leading there what i was going to say was now that you're on reality tv moments like that where you're getting noticed in the street things like that what's it been like this transition from you know preston mitcham to preston mitcham the reality TV store. Yeah, I, you know what interesting and probably unpopular opinion. I really love and hate it. And I'll tell you why I hate it first. If you Google my name right now, like more likely than not, you'll see the first thing pop up as like TV star, TV personality, which is fine, right?

You can't control how people are introduced to you. I think in some respect, though, it also makes me really sad in a way because I have worked for 14 years before becoming on reality TV. And then sometimes very public spaces. And so I think it was awkward for me at first because I'm like, wow, this reality to me thing has happened for two years now. And I've done this work as an attorney, as an activist. Like literally in D.C., I helped shut down a bar for an entire six weeks for the security guard dragging a black woman down the stairs by her, right? Like, I have publicly protested against, like, white career establishments that I've done anti-black things within their institutions and their bars and restaurants. Right. Like, I have, like, fully winning

against, like, people for embezzling funds that was supposed to go to transpholds. So, like, I think when I see, like, TV personality, I'm like, huh, true. And... But, God, look at all this other great stuff of done. Right, like, I wish you would have loved me when I was known for being a civil rights activist, right?

Right. But you can't... But I realize, for real to world, you can't control all people to introduce to you. Probably it's a dynamic and massive platform that I'm really grateful to have. And I think, even above anything else, what I've really appreciated is that

folks really do show you a lot of love. And what I hate is that they apologize to you before doing so. Like usually, it's like, I don't want to bother you because I know you're enjoying your friends. I'm like, please bother me because guess what? The reason why our show continues to exist is because of you, right? And I genuinely mean that, right? So like, any time, it may annoy some of my friends sometimes, and I'm like, we are,

sit down, we're friends. I'm like, I'm going to talk to you later. But I want to show them, I want to show them some love. Like, you know, they, I think it's a lot to be able to come to someone you've never met who you've seen on TV and you want to show them up. To me, that means a lot. It goes. That goes a long way.

And I think that you can honestly, at this point, you're probably going to start to realize that if you haven't already, you're now in a good position where you can use the platform that you've gained from Bravo to start to shine lights on the other things that you're doing and the other cool things that you're doing for everybody else. And I think that's really something that you could work on and something that you can move forward with. And people will start looking at Preston and be like, wow, he's just a great dude.

And that kind of goes along with what we've seen from Martha's Vineyard. which is unlike any other show. And Steele and I talk about this all the time, you guys have so much emotional intelligence with each other where every fight that there's fight scenes, there's conflict, there's issues, but it seems like there's resolution at the end of it,

or at least it's prefaced with look. This is just how I feel right now. So did you guys have that, like obviously you got a lot of you knew each other to begin with? Did you already kind of have that rapport going into it? What does it feel like in the moment? Do you guys just feel like this is completely authentic? Or are you guys kind of cognizant?

about that that's a great question because i think sometimes it really depends on the moment so you know the the reality is most of us there there was always the connection at least between at least one person through all of us right so it's like you know silas was my line brother nick and ameer were part of a running club Alex and nick our fraternity brothers jasmine cheneas jordan and bria you know worked at playboy so you know there was already like connections of connections and so but i will say the time that it took to actually build these relationships collectively, it took a while, right? Because you have moments where you really don't know each other. Like, Brea and I, for example, we never met each other until the first day she walked in and season one or last summer, right?

And so it just made it, you know, I'm like, hmm, I don't know, but I know I'm going to figure this out because I know I at least have emotional intelligence that I'm like, okay, if something is blowing up, let me relax, or when something requires you pop off, let me pop off. But to me, I think we all kind of have to know. Thankfully, thankfully now through these connections, we've all started to learn each other's triggers, like what you should not say, what to stay away from, frankly, what to dig into when you need those moments as well. I think the, what I've observed at the difference between our show and many other shows that I also love is that because we genuinely are friends, we actually care about how we make each other feel. And for some viewers, I know that's a little

tough because some viewers that said, I really want more drama. And I'm like, okay, I hear that, But at the same time, we want to make sure, because we know Bravo viewers really care about friendships, right? And authentic relationships. And so it's like, if you want us to have more drama, you also have to then reconcile if we actually are no longer friends because someone did not care enough about us to say, to talk about the thing that we say, don't talk about. Right. So it's tricky. It's tricky when you do, when you film reality TV, especially with people who you actually do love or at least have love for. Yeah.

Yeah. But I think it's refreshing for us. us because we watch so many of these shows and we see so many instances where when it comes to an argument or a conflict it's just like people yelling over each other nothing's getting accomplished they go for the lowest hanging fruit and you're like sometimes yeah it's funny like that's why we watch these shows sometimes you know look at jersey that's all they do they just try to tear each other down but at the same time it gets to a point where it's like all right like we need a reprieve and the fact that y'all can talk to each other just calmly and voice your opinion and how you're

feeling. But more importantly, to me, the astounding thing is how it's received is people say, hey, I hear you. I respect that. I accept that. However, this is how I'm feeling. I'm like, wow, everyone's so, like, emotionally in touch with themselves. We don't see this in reality TV. So it's really refreshing. Well, because it's also like, then now what, right? Like the differences I also explained it for us is that we we we we're vacationing together right so they're quite literally is no escape so like even the OG summer house right like they film you know during the weekend so that means that most of the other time they're able to go home do their job staying with their other friends we have to be there with each other for

15 plus days and so that means that if you're not actually like out of your room you need to be there right unless you miss camera time you miss actual event time. And so, and let's be clear, that's ultimately the purpose, that you want to be seen and shown, too. So, you know, I think for a lot of us, we're like, wow, we have, we kind of have to reconcile, or the very least agree to disagree, because the other option is sitting in our room, and then we'll be shown in the way, I'm sure. So we have to also figure out, like, how do you move forward when you literally have nowhere else to go? Yeah, I think the structure of the show is very interesting compared to like you just said o g summerhouse they get to go back to new york they can

either choose to decompress depending on what happens or they can ramp it up a little and they can talk to other people that aren't even involved and try to get their emotions in check to go back with a little bit better of an argument do you think that you guys could ever get to a point where you have a structure similar to o g summer house or do you think it works well enough with the 15 days in a row up there because no matter what you guys are all friends you guys all know each other you all respect each other but 15 days in a house with other people, there's going to be comfort. So I do,

I kind of go back and forth where I want you guys to have that decompression time to kind of bring it back and have more energy. Instead of, you know, having to be hung over 10 and 15 days. You get some time to recuperate and come back with a little bit better. But what do you think it is down the line? Like where do you see Martha's been you're getting to?

Do you think it works as it is or do you want to maybe tweak a couple of things? Yeah. Usually I would have a more definitive answer. I will say, clients here. So first, Martin Vinear is incredibly expensive. Like, to rent a home there, it is really pricey.

Okay. Like, sometimes you can rent a home for one week for $25,000. And so, like, because it can be so expensive, and obviously the more rooms you have, the more the more than it gets. And so it can, you know, you just never really know, like, how you can actually afford it

if you're doing it for like seven weeks. Right. Yeah. It just adds up to budget. So that's what, I think also I kind of, but I would appreciate actually going home in some instances because I really do have an active life outside of what we film. And so I would love for the viewers to see that. I would love for them to see my fiance a bit more. I would love for them to see my friendship dynamics a bit more in some of the work that I do.

I also live in D.C. And so I think that's a little trickier because we're going from the vineyard to D.C. Whereas usually they're going right New York to New York. New York, yeah. But honestly, though, I also kind of love filming for 15 years. days of being done like that's a good that's a good point yeah there's something about i was talking to kandis about this some months ago because she was like i think i would probably like her set up and then she texted right back and was like no i just thought about it no i wouldn't because because

you are you do have to be on it all the time which it gets a bit exhausting but i really do love this like okay there's a definitive beginning there's a definitive end and my god the end is going to end and i'm not talk to you off for a couple weeks so i get back home you're yourself a breather also No, I can't imagine the cast of Potomac in a house together for 15 days. Oh, God, that would be good to me, though. That would be fun of watch. Yes. But you mentioned your fiancé, and we got introduced to Donald.

And, you know, I have a question for you because we have a lot of LGBTQ representation on these shows, but not mainstays, right? You get a lot of friend ofs, you get things like that. So seeing somebody that is able to represent that community. How important is that to you to be able to, and also you've mentioned your works of civil rights and things like that. So having this platform and being a part of that community, how important is to you to be able to represent that? Incredibly. It's honestly probably the most important thing to me. I, you know, when I was approached about this, they really decided to do it.

Of course, I had like a lot of reservations. You know, initially, I was like, this may not make sense for me. You know, there were people who actually, you know, in my circle who told me like, hey, I'm going to support whatever you want to do, but I am curious, are you thinking about, you know, how this could impact, you like, you know, jobs in the future, clients in the future, right? Because there is an aspect of, you know, let's face it, like, there's an aspect of editing, right, and potential misrepresentation. And so, and you sign up, you sign away that. And so I had to really be like, okay, does this make sense? Granted, I know myself well enough to know my self-awareness.

So if there are moments I need to pull away from, I'm like, you know what, this is not worth it. I need to pull away from this. So that was a tricky part about it. But the reason to your question, the reason I ultimately decided to do it is because to me what mattered more was actually being main stage, actually being able to represent so many, especially black queer folks who either have never seen ourselves on reality TV in this way or like just didn't think of as possible, frankly. On Bravo of all networks. But Bravo is such a special network and to actually be able to have this role in an all-black cast, or on an all-black cast, I should say, on an all-black show, you know, Bravo only has, what, three. Atlanta, Atomic, and yeah, Martha's been. Yeah, and so it just, you know, and I always known that, you know, I was discussing this a few weeks ago because, you know, we clearly have, like, I think beautiful black men who's represented themselves on Atlanta especially, right?

You have your Derek Jay's, you have your Ms. Lawrence's, you have all the Dwight, like you have the people who really were being fully themselves and authentically themselves and were genuinely seen as by many standards stereotypes within the LGBT plus community and LGBTQ community. To be clear, there are many people like them who aren't clearly a part of our community and they should be represented in the scene as well. But I do think, unfortunately, when you make people friends of or more accessory to their girlfriends, it's easier to create these caricatures about them when they're just trying to be themselves, right?

And so I really appreciated this opportunity. And for me, I knew I wasn't going to represent everyone that's a fool of Aaron, but I at least hope that being myself was enough for people to really see themselves in. And when I tell you, those are the messages that make me be happiest. It's like, you represent yourself so well. And it makes me see you on that show. It makes me see, like, myself on that show despite not being there, right? And that really matters a lot.

Yeah. I mean, that's powerful. And we see it and it shines through with just how you carry yourself and, you know, allowing people to see that vulnerable side. And we love those moments. We talk about that across all shows. When you get those moments to really humanize and relate to somebody or learn about them and are able to educate yourself and I think it's such a unique opportunity and such

a special opportunity and you're doing such an amazing job with it that I think, and hope that this will hopefully leapfrog into more opportunities for people to be represented and to come on to these shows. So, I mean, hats off to you, genuinely. It's been really, really cool to watch. I pray so. I mean, I've been reflected on this on Twitter a bit

because I'm like, I actually, and again, my brain's face could be off too, but I just can't remember a time on Bravo where I just remember seeing a black man because it's a black man. Like, I just don't think I've ever seen it. And so even just to look like, Marlon Riggs has his quote, right like around black men especially right around like you know it's revolutionary for black men

to love black men and for me that's really important because we just don't really see it right like there are discussions that happen like this all the time too like people's dating structures are how they date right so this is not a nod to anyone who does not date within their race particularly if they're black but there's something that i've noticed specifically around like you would think sometimes black men don't date black men if they're queer right and there's something that I know noticed about that that really rubs me a little bit because there are so many healthy, loving black queer relationships that I think deserve the same space that other relationships get to be seen as.

Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. Yeah, the representation is incredible. And obviously, as the show gets bigger and bigger, more people are going to be able to watch that. And that's something that Steele and I talk about. We always make sure that we make a note no matter what it is. If it's somebody, I mean, we get so many nice stories and so many things about like

inner details about something that somebody's going through or a message that they want to get out there. We always take a moment to always talk about something like that because at the end of the day, yeah, the reality shows, but it's not just always drummed up, you know, bullshit, inorganic drama that's going to happen. You're going to be able to get real stories and you're going to be able to find, you know, who this person is and be able to latch onto them and really support them. And as the show continues to get bigger, I feel like that's going to be a really good platform for all of that. And I do wonder for you specifically because I have a question about specifically Phil and Mariah

but has anybody else now that the show is kind of taken off do you have people reaching out to you saying hey how do I get on that show? I'm a friend of yours. Oh my God. I mean literally I think Phil and Mariah kind of missed a call oh no yeah there you go okay

because my whole thing with Phil and Mariah when they came back this year you could tell like they're a little apologetic you know Mariah is talking to Amir a little bit about the dog laundry fucking situation who the hell cares anymore about dog laundry why are we still talking about it but you see them come back and I can almost tell it on their faces like shit we miss the boat what are we supposed to do now like these guys are taking off they're getting a reunion this year which we do want to talk to you about in a second they're getting a reunion this year people are watching they're having fun they're listening to me and steal probably talk about how much fun this show is compared to the other dumb bullshit that we have to watch we get to enjoy watching you guys on screen and people like phil mariah are like damn did I miss the boat on that one yeah I think so honestly and probably Phil more than Mariah, to be honest.

I think, you know, I think, Phil, when we talk seriously, you know, I don't know if I heard genuine, like, in a genuine apology. Like, I'm still actually processing what that was. We didn't. Yeah. Let me go ahead and stop yet. No, that wasn't real. Thank you.

But here we out. So, no, I think it was because, like, there's a moment of being, right, of TV, right, that he knew he was going to get from that. Yeah. I think for me I was like I that's not for me to figure out at this point like I am doing what I think is the actual thing that I think it's kind to do in this moment you don't actually deserve my kindness but I I try to give it when I can and you know in some moment because the conversation was obviously longer than what people saw um and there were parts that genuinely felt like I made an ass out of myself I am really sorry for like being drunk and belligerent and Yeah, but also I was like, okay, stop blaming on alcohol. We have a thing where we always blame stuff on alcohol. And I think we need to realize that that is not completely it.

And so I, but I know for sure there are moments where they're probably both kicking themselves like goodness. I really miss this opportunity. I mean, the only, I mean, I felt certainly more bad for Mariah, frankly, than I did feel because I think Mariah is a little bit more complex, what was seen and unseen. Yeah. But, but I can imagine it. I will say this. I know I wouldn't go that way. Right.

Yeah. I would. And rightfully so. And I guess we've gotten a lot of questions around, you know, Summer and some of her behavior this year. And comparing that almost to Mariah where she was given the boot from the house because she put hands on somebody after the whole laundry situation. And we've seen Summer do that twice now where she pushed Noel this past episode of two weeks ago.

So I guess, you know, you seem to be cool. Are you cool with Mariah? Do you guys have a good relationship? So I guess is the door open for her to come back, seeing as we've seen similar, I guess, conflicts in the house where things kind of escalate, shit happens, it's not the end of the world. So do you see a bridge back for maybe Mariah?

Like, Phil, I don't really care for, to be honest with you. Right. I mean, I don't want him back. I mean, this is what I was sharing with people like, be very clear about what my, like, yes, we can talk meant. It just meant we could talk and it can end right here. Right. That was not a re-invitation, right?

No, it didn't seem to be either. You see it set it up well enough where it was like, I will do this, but, you know, just to clear the air, it's not to, like, offer a hand back to the show or anything. Right, right, which is why I was like, you can extend the invite, but I'm not, like, I'm not even going there. With Mariah, I'll say this. I hope so. Like, I, the world has missed so much of what Mariah can provide. And, like, from, like, just like, just from a black mother. a black woman, someone who has a beautiful child, someone who actually grew up in Pittsburgh,

right? So, you know, I just, there's so much there to her. And I just really believe that that was just such an unfortunate moment that happened. And, you know, I'm still, I hate that the laundry moment keeps coming back because I think it's silly. I also even share with the mirror that I don't think he handled that well at all and it actually frustrates me. Like, to be clear, is he the reason why I should have to prop? No, but I do think that would have been escalated the entire situation that eventually led to the touching that we're discussing, which eventually led to her being removed, right? Or, you know, at least how it's how we perceive it, how it's being perceived in that way. So I just, it just, it's just more, I don't know, I always think

about moments where I'm like, oh my God, what would happen if you'd tell the truth? Right. Like, and I, and I just can't unthink that because it's just what we see. But again, like, at the end of the day, like, I don't think it's, I don't think there's, I think there's, I think there's, I think there's, I think there's still a mechanism of like, you can shoot kind of control your reaction. And that's just what it is. Yeah. But no, I think that that's a, your perspective on the whole thing. And you're, you're kind of our voice of reason on this show. We kind of look to you for like, to set the pace of like, all right, things are cool or is this escalating whatever? You seem to be levelheaded the majority of the time. So we look to you for all that. But watching this show kind of develop into what, what it's become today, I just, I think that first and foremost, then we're going to get into the reunion. More people need to watch this show because it's, it's so good. And everybody that we get to finally watch the show, they will comment or they'll send us a message and say, I finally started this show so good. I'm like, yeah, we've been pushing it for two years, guys. They'll watch the entire first season in one day and then leave us a review saying thank you.

And we're like, yeah, there we're right. But Steele and I always do this thing where we're actually reviewing Martha's Vineyard on a separate episode and we'll tell those people that they need to watch Martha's Vineyard and then we're like shit we shouldn't do this here we should go to the VPR one we should go to Southern Charm or whatever we're doing at the time and tell those people to go listen and watch so yeah we got to draw the ball in that one a little bit but we're trying but that goes to say and again I mean the show's doing so well and it's it's had so much success that you guys actually have a reunion this year how excited were you when you found out what was going on were you a little nervous as to what's going like because look i mean yeah when it comes down to

it we're going to critique your fits i love the fashions for all of these reunions and i'm going to go through every person individually what what do you raise your hand for what i got a question yes yeah because we saw an outfit or uh underwear under garment if you will yeah and i called them briefs i was corrected in uh in the dms and somebody said it was a jockstrap and like haven't you ever seen a jockstrap before yeah i was a i played professional baseball for a long time and i wore a jockstrap because i was a catcher i didn't know genuinely this is not me trying to be funny i didn't know that you wore jockstraps outside of sports so so let me say that i feel because i don't know if i know anyone to do it other than gay men to be honest is like i really don't

know anyone else who does it but i will say this i have way more jockstraps than i do briefs or other underwear. Really? Is it comfortable? Is it more comfortable? Should we make the switch? Are you looking? I kind of want to see.

Can you? I love dog traps. Like, in fact, spoiler is that you're going to see at another time and another else. I just love them. Like, I, you know,

that was funny. I'm like, y'all, I'm just getting dressed. Like, this is just actually my underwear. Yeah. But it is, I love a dog trap. I don't know. It's just something so freeing.

It is a little awkward at times. So I'm like, look at that air. Oh, okay. My ass. Oh, my ass. But it is that I comment. Just try it. Just try it.

One time. I will try it out for you. I will try it. I will try it and get back to you. Yeah. I'll give it a shot. I'll try anything once. You still have a few steel?

Look. If I do, they're in my like old bat bag downstairs, which means they're probably like. Yeah, I wouldn't use those. No. That might be a bad idea. Look, so one of my favorites. right now is a black creator and designer, Carter. So Carter wear is what I usually wear all the time.

That's actually what I was wearing in the show as well. It is just so comforting. I love it. I promise you will enjoy it. And they have like your less risk a day to the most risk day. So sometimes they have like mesh jock straps. So, so you actually have your whole ass out and your print showing. So like it is.

There we go. I'll probably get that. If I'm going to do it, go all in, like, you know, Carterware. Okay, fine. I won't get one. You think I'm kidding. I will. I will.

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Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. So I will say this. I, so let me tease myself a little bit. I really, really loved my reunion fit. What I will say is it is silk or a satin rather and satin wrinkle, satin wrinkles so quickly that I really, like, Bravo, if you're listening right now, please make sure it's it and the wrinkles are out.

Like, I need to make sure. We've seen that before. We've seen people go back to their trailers and they get it all like steamed out and then put it right back on every single time. So, yeah, you just got to be aware of what you're going to be doing and how long you're going to be sitting there talking it through. I stood up and I was like, oh, my God. But honestly, I think everyone looked really, really good. Yeah. I mean, and people think it's shady, but I really do mean when I say I love people's styles for them.

It's the for them that I think people find shaming. There's a little stink to it. I'm not going to lie. There's a little stink. But I say, but I love that for you. Aw. But I, but I say for them because you have you ever seen someone wear something that you like, but you know would not look good on you?

Yeah. Yes. That is what I mean when I say. I don't mean like, oh, that's cute for you. Yeah. I guess that's what it sounds like the same. But, but it really, it really means no shame by it. I think I did that when I saw you in your jockstrap, honestly.

That was really good, but not for me. But see, I think people really get it when you break it down. We just don't have time to break it down. But we came up with a theme because I can't lie. Sometimes I see some reunions where someone is going to the picnic and someone's going to the Met Gala. So I'm like, can we at least be on like a similar page here? And I think we were definitely reading.

Yeah, I think we were definitely reading from the same page. that's good yeah we see a lot of wacky outfits and somebody walks and you're like what are you going for and then you see the backdrop the backdrops always themed with something and then somebody's off the theme and you're like well right get the memo like what happened right no seriously but it being your first reunion how I mean general overall how was it how did you do like was it traumatizing did you need to sleep for four days afterwards like give us a little quick rundown well it's weird so it was definitely something it's kind of be probably just a part one.

I mean, it was a three and a half hours. But I will say, like we filmed for about three and a half hours, it was a good time. I mean, it was obviously not enjoyable. Not enjoyable. I don't mean to say that. But it was, I can't lie. I thought it was going to be spicy. Like, I was preparing

for, like, the worst. And so, it was, though, it was spicy, and there were some spicy moments, you know, and one person in particular shocked me a little bit more, because I thought she was actually a little bit nastier than that I anticipated for her. I think other people really showed up.

And, you know, there were some back and forbs. That became a lot. But I think overall, we kind of really wanted to respect each other at least to get off what they could get off. And just what we wanted to say, what I learned from filming my first reunion at this point is that it's not really a time to resolve. Like you hope you can resolve some things where you can.

What I did appreciate it about it, though, Like, even though I don't feel like there was like major resolution that there were, you could at least clear the high points of why someone felt away to the point where if you actually do care about resolving that, you know what they're least frustrated by now. Right. And so that is up to you at that point. But I think people really, people really showed up and showed out. That's good.

I mean, how much time did you guys like have to prepare for that? Like, when did they let you know, oh, we're going to do a reunion? Not much. Not much. So I think that part of it, there's a lot of, there's a lot of nuances here. Right, because I know for some housewives, they know, like, first of all, we didn't even know we were getting in a reunion right at first. Right. You know, I think that's part of it. Also, like, I am very big on just, I know I'm not going to lie.

So it's like, you can provide all the documentation you want to. Like, I know I'm telling the truth. So you can struggle through your text messages if you want to. I'm not doing all that. Like, I don't care. Like, I need much, much more. money to be doing all that, and maybe one day we'll get there. But right now, I'm going to talk. So what you're saying is that we're not going to be getting any bedazzled folders

full of documentation. It's going to be a lot of fumbling through. Yeah, it's going to be a lot fumbling through your phone. Unfortunately, we won't be getting spreadsheets and take the words. That's a shame. But I will say this because we talked to, we had Aaron Litchie at one of our live shows, was our guest. And we talked to her. They obviously had their first reunion after their season and afterwards she said you know I learned a lot I learned a lot and I think that what you're going to get is after like the first season reunion I think people are still very much conscious of each other's feelings and conscious of friendships and things like that as it grows it starts to blur the lines a little bit where it's like oh there are unions coming up and I got some shit to say and I think I'm curious to see what your sentiment's going to be compared from this season and you know Lord Willie you guys get a third season and then a reunion again we get to see how these two compare us. I would imagine

I love the word spicy. I'm going to start using that. I would imagine a much spicier next reunion where people bring in folders, we get a burn book and maybe elaminated something and who the hell knows. Now to be clear, it was spicy. I mean, I believe you. I was like,

oh, calm now. Because you know, these are friends. Are you like, wait, y'all put the fight for real? Like, what is this? But, you know, I think next season, you know, fingers fraud, you know, that I think we will get that. It may even be from me. Yeah. Oh, there you go.

Wait, hold on. Was Milo invited to the reunion? I don't know if Milo was invited, but Milo was not present. Interesting. Because Milo goes to all these different clubs in Europe, so I figured maybe Milo might be able to go. I think Milo is actually in Germany right now. I think they're still together. Okay.

Well, then they worked through the foingo thing. That's good. And we're going to talk about that episode a little bit. But I need to ask, like, first and foremost, because he seems like a, like, a character to me. Like, what is Simon like in real life? Like what you see. Is it? Like what you see.

I mean, it is, and I will say it is really difficult to understand Simon sometimes. And so I think usually we're like kind of laughing because we're trying to actually hear the joke at the same number processing the joke. but assuming it's funny. So our laughter is more so awkward and also us prophesing what we heard. But, you know, I will say, here's the thing. I find Simon to be a lot of energy, a lot of fun, and a lot. And I think sometimes Simon doesn't work for me. Like, I have a thing around guests, not acting as guests.

And so, you know, I'm just like, just sit down. Like I like it almost feels like Simon has to be the center of attention and so you know for me it makes me like retreat immediately because I'm like I'm not going to give you the attention that I can tell you're seeking I know for some people that's like oh this should be fun but I'm like it's actually not fun like we are actually not enjoying this moment yeah and here's the here's the thing actually actually wasn't even being a jerk about it to be honest like she actually even told Simon like hey like you can gosh you should do this by the pool like Like, you should actually play with this, but like, let's get out of here and let's, you know, let you enjoy yourself outside in the pool. I'll come out there and meet you. But it just wasn't, it wasn't being received in that way. And y'all know, I'll be on, you not barely agree with Brea. Yeah. So it was this moment where I was like, I'm like, I don't, I don't think she, I know she can trip sometimes.

But I'm like, this is not an example where I think, like, I would be frustrated too. Like, if Donald did something like that, oh my God. like you know yeah the good the good thing is he won't and he wouldn't but i think stuff like that and you know and i really hope your viewers understand when i'm up to say i find that to happen from white men a lot in black spaces there there's usually like this like i need to find myself as big as i can to be so cool with and i'm like no just chill out just chill out yeah instead of just being happy that you're there and you're being accepted and just enjoy the ride you don't make it about yourself and that's what it seems like that's what he wanted

to do yeah honestly brea in that moment to me handled that that was the best i've seen her handle something because as i'm watching him first of all like the sentiment of the party as we found out like nick lost his friend bib his frat brother right there's a lot more to that scene and that was not the vibe of the party at all like there are parties like that for sure where you can put on a stupid outfit but it almost seemed to mock the occasion so when i'm watching it it as well. I'm like, this isn't the right time at all. First of all, it's not that funny. Second of all, like, look around, like, get the temperature of the room right now. Nobody's bribing with this. I think Rhea handled it well, actually, where she's like, the fact

that you held her back from stabbing it was probably a good thing. I know. Okay, let's not. Maybe not. Maybe not. Just a case. But at the same time, like, yeah, of course I understand her frustration in that moment. I think that it would be doing her a disservice because, yes, we've seen her mishandle multiple situations where she seems to amp up a little quickly. And in this moment, I don't think it should be glossed over that she actually handled it well and got him to the room and was like, dude, what the hell? And then you get the cutscene of her talking to him. I think Summer was in there as well. Like, yeah, like this is probably like a pool moment or like a different party, but not, not this party. So. Yeah. And the thing is,

we actually, we were having a blast before that moment, honestly. Like, we were doing an electric slide. And it looked awesome. Yeah. We were, we were competing over being in the Divine nine. Like, It was actually a really great time. And that seemed to deflate, no pun intended, like, the moment. And so I was actually proud of how she really stuck up in that moment. You know, and I know sometimes for many people, self-included, she can be a hard to have to swallow. But that was a moment where I was like, actually, I don't know how better that moment could have been handled when like you're not only your guests, but your partner, right, does something that you feel like is them actively. not listening to you or respecting your wishes yeah we've seen him do stuff like that in the past

the hot tub scene last year like jumping in the pool at one moment where it's just kind of like oh not really the vibe right now man so like i'm sure that gets frustrating for her and yeah she held that moment well i do want to talk about what we saw last week carry into this week we see drama between summer noel brea that whole thing obviously escalated the alcohol didn't help and as you said there seems to be a trope among some of the people on the show where it's like, oh, I was really drunk. It's like, yes, but at a certain point, that is no longer, okay. If you have a bad night, like, sure, we've all had bad nights.

Shit happens. Let's brush it under the rug, move on. Like, don't be an idiot again. But when it's repeat behavior, it gets harder to defend that by saying, oh, I was just really drunk. So we've seen summer throughout this summer. She's clearly going through a lot. Right. And, you know, being so close to her and the rest of the house, what, I guess, what was the underlying sentiment?

You don't have to tell me what she was going through necessarily, but just working through that in the house, trying to not calm her down because she's a lot of feel she's feeling, but more so helping to understand, okay, you're going through something instead of drinking and acting out. And I was actually very, I'm personally five years sober. So I was very proud to see that one night. And following night, she's like, I'm not drinking tonight. She removed herself from the party entirely to try to work through some things, which is cool to see. So I guess going along with her this summer and seeing all of these things happening, what was it like trying to, I guess, break through and be like, hey, like, talk to us. What's going on? Yeah, really complicated, honestly, because, I mean, summer, what I'm always a proud about summer about, you know, say what she will about her.

And, you know, for, I know, people are like, oh, this is really whack and berserk. can try being filmed for a couple weeks, right? Just, just try it. And it's not, right? Like, it is what we find up for for sure, but I think it really exposes you and, like, makes you really susceptible to a lot of who you are that you may have been hiding, or at least running, or maybe running away from. And some are discussed us a lot, and I really love her vulnerability in these moments

because I know what we're seeing as a lot, but it really is vulnerable. Like, those moments that you're seeing is reflections in vulnerability. I mean, Summer literally was figuring out who her father was, like, figuring out the relationship with her mother, who had abandoned her, like, her nana, who I've had the privilege of meeting and spending time with. Like, she had eye surgery and was having a lot of complications with her eyesight. I mean, it was so many things happening on top of, you know, filming for this amount of time. And I think, like, in some of those moments, she was like the thing I can do with her treat. And I can retreat by drinking. I can retreat by ignoring.

and you know you see it you saw it bubble up I think what was really complicated for me at least when I heard her say that I was a hard friend because initially I kind of dismissed it made a joke out of it because I hated how the information actually got to me honestly it was Natalie who ultimately sent the information down the telephone to Jordan and my fiance Donald and then they brought that to me because I'm just like why do you even know anyway like you shouldn't even be involved in that but but but it was a little frustrated to me, honestly. And so, like, I, you know, I stopped for a moment. And then I have to

really reflect on this because I'm like, summer is actually not wrong. Like, I don't think I'm a hard friend, but I do think that was a hard time in our friendship. Sure. Because to me, I was really heavy in this moment. Like, my father had just passed away. The reality also is that even experience, even his side of the family, my side, excuse me, his side of the family and I are still not on the term. The fact is probably worse. So, like, that, so I was going to her, a lot was that. Jordan, of course, unfortunately, had more hair loss, which she discussed as well. But I think at this time, it was just, it was heavy, right? You have moments and friendships, which are just heavy. And I think because Summer was going through a lot, which we did not know at the time,

she was kind of taking all of our stuff in as well without, like, releasing anything for us to hold of hers. And I think that made it incredibly difficult for her until the point where she just started to explode. But I will, but I really do mean, like, I don't just want white friendships. In fact, for any of my friendships, I just feel like it's just us drinking. I don't want it. Like, I'm at the point in my life where I'm like, I've had that. Yes, they worked for a period of time, but they also became incredibly fleeting.

And so like the friendships to me that have stayed around for decades have been those that I've drank with, cried with, laugh with, went to their funeral, rent to parents' funerals, like all of it, right? Because to me, that is genuine and it's not transactional. And so, you know, that's why I have to approach summer personally, like, quite literally, like, hey, I heard this. I'm literally coming to you friend to friend because I don't know what's happening and you've never said this to me. So, like, what is it? And what can I and we work on as a friend? So I just, and even all of, and even with all of this, I still never found summer happy, right? Because to me, this is just friendship.

Right. But I really hate, I hate how she is seen. herself right now i think the hardest moments are like you know you do some you know you do some shit but you know now it's going to be seen for everyone to see and judge right so i'm always going to be there for summer because i think more than anything right now she needs a friend and she needs friends but it really is like it's just it's it's hard to see um and i really do hope there's a point where like people realize that it's about not only just alcohol but But sometimes harboring feelings that you are only letting out because you're a drug.

Right. You actually probably feel that way. Yeah, I think she was doing that a little bit too. And if anything, at least the way that I viewed it was her talking to you, talking to Jordan, about the things that were going on in your life was kind of reminding her about how heavy her life was. But she couldn't work through it and project and actually verbalize what she was going through to you guys. So it's almost like, okay, you know, this is a constant reminder of how strong somebody like press. is how strong somebody like Jordan is to be able to work through this. All I really want to do is just go party with Shanice and Brea. I think ultimately, and it's weird to say, ultimately,

this breakdown could have actually helped her because then it actually allows her to talk to something like you about what she's going through instead of spending the 15 days just getting blackout drunk with Shanice the entire time and then ultimately blowing up anyway. So this is obviously there's no right way to go about it, but it at least helps her and push her in the right direction. And so that's, you know, it's still nice to see. And that's why Steele and I have been talking about it for weeks now, obviously, when she came in with the Alex energy, we didn't really know what was going on. Once she starts opening up a little bit, like, okay, she's going through some shit and we just need to see her actually break through and get to talk to somebody else. And that's, again, one of the moments that we like to see because reality TV doesn't typically help a lot of people.

But it's something like this happens. Now we're like, holy shit, look at this. Reality TV just helps somebody break through. So there we go. And it's so interesting for us to watch something like that and just, you know, evolve all the way through and get everybody involved. And you never really saw anybody, even Brea, who she was lashing out at, really look at somewhere and be like, what are you doing? Like, what the hell is going on? You're being a complete asshole right now.

Everybody kind of knew there's something deeper here. So let's try to discuss it. And again, we don't get that on all the shows. We got it on your show. And I do think this is going to bring me to my next point, which is a lot less heavy. we did not utilize the goddamn truth booth enough what the fuck what are we doing Preston did you guys not get drunk and go to the goddamn truth booth what I tell you when I tell you I'm sure I speak for every catheter when I tell how pissed we are and how much our truth booths

are not shown yeah why so when I tell you are literally listen you can keep this in I will because we're pissed too we have to record the truth booth two to three times today so we've You've succeeded two to three times. Two. So, yeah. So they're probably quite, so this is 15 days times 10 people times two or three times a day per each person.

So there are tons of truth. And that's actually how much we have to. One day I did it. I was in truthful for like seven, seven times. That's bullshit. I'm mad. I literally, I'm not even joking. I literally said to someone in production,

and I said, can y'all just cut it out? Because it's clear you're not going to use it. Like, it was good. it y'all trying for two seasons now y'all clearly can't fit it in so just let it go you can fit it in you have to the idea behind it is so good it's like

on site in the moment you can go in there and vent about shit and get like some really hot takes we were so stoked when we saw the truth booth the underutilization of the truth booth is tragic and I don't live it about it so one time we literally all of us except for Shanice

I think she was no this is when she injured her foot so all of all nine of us at one point went and my grass sparing my ankle and I was still outside so we had we were playing hide-and-seek all of like an adult hide-and-seek all outside my we were all wearing black black from head to toe so we're and we're like it's like one in the morning we're like playing hide-and-seek in this big-ass yard and when i tell you afterward we all went to the truth booth and did like that was like our most fun day yeah and unfortunately we haven't seen it but that was the moment we were like hoping hoping it would be shown but

those are moments where i'm like i know trust me we we wish the two booths with show more so it's not we we we are there every day you've made this worse for me now no actually i actually maybe i made it better because i feel like y'all probably blamed us yeah i did yeah no i i definitely blamed you guys so preston just made it better for me because now at least i can go after bravo for this yeah i'm just mad all around now no it's like a hundred truth boots yeah no we love honestly we love like it is it is a time where or we may hate it depending on what shown maybe that's i want to see both i want to see when you hate it i'm when you love it yeah like donner and i were in the truth food several times like just a chat about like his stay what he's seen if he's

having a good time like it was it was a great time but you know not everything can fit in we know what do you mean it's like a 30 second clip like that's not hard come out some other bullshit and put that in there. Cut the Phil out and put the fucking truth food in. I don't need to see Phil. I don't need to see Phil. Put the truth through it. I'm so, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm spicy right now. Let me tell you.

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for a day and you haven't actually interacted with everybody. So you don't deserve that. Yeah. Yeah. It was, it was hard for me if I'm being honest. And we do discuss some of this at the reunion. And so it was really hard for me. I think also because I had a guest as well who was doing none of that. Yeah. So who was really just trying to enjoy himself. And so I, yeah, I think, so it really bothered me because I'm like, what are you doing? I think I've always shocked when I see people who do a lot for free. Like, it's always going to, like, shock me a lot. And so I'm like, what is happening here? And so I, I didn't love it. I thought it was unnecessary, unnecessary mess being created. I thought I was a lot of telephone for a guest that shouldn't have been involved in a lot of the conversations.

And one thing that I don't love ever is when someone, right, throw the grenade and then hides and run the way and say, hey, I didn't know that explosion just happened because you actually caught the detonation. And so, like, I, I didn't love it. I didn't know. I don't, I actually think Natalie is fine, like in real life, right, if you will. but whatever that those three days were I don't know and I don't know I don't know

I think it was weird to me that she came out of the gate and like belittled her boyfriend in front of everybody she's like that he does under a million I do over too I was like that's fucked up it's also just it's also weird it would be a weird thing to say in a private space let alone and say no matter what it's like that's your partner

I'm not really sure why you're speaking to them like they're your colleague, like they're your assistant, honestly. Like it just, it was a really, you know, at the end of the day, I try not to critique people's relationships because I'm like, what's good for you obviously works, like whether I think it's unfortunate or not. But it was right, no, fair, fair, fair. But it was just, it was just hard to hear. It was just really, because I didn't hear it in real time.

So the first time I actually heard it was when I watched the episode. You're like, damn, what the hell, man? And she talks about, like, these kinds of people just bug the shit out of me. She pulls out a bottle of, like, Class Azoa or whatever that tequila was. She's like, this is the only alcohol I drink. It's like, anybody can buy an expensive bottle of alcohol. Like, even the expensive one's like, yeah, I don't want to spend $150 on a bottle, but it's not going to, like, ruin me.

And she's like, the whole setup of she is here and a mirror is here. It's like, then why are you with him? I think the funniest part of it all is obviously we get all of the preamble to her arrival. And we get Amir, say, what, 15 times? If I even look at another girl, Natalie's going to cut my balls off. And he says it over and over and over again to you guys. And everybody in the house is like, shut up. We don't care.

We don't care. We've met her one time. We already don't really like her. You're not making it any better. So Steele and I are sitting there like, oh, Amir's not doing us any favors. what if Natalie walks in and she's nice and whatever now that she's here i'm like she's sitting back watching this season saying good job ameer way to say that i would cut your balls off i'm proud of you and like that is actually how their relationship is so that can't be fun and the fact that

she's getting mixed up and all of this again i'm okay with it if she walked in and she just starts talking to everybody and mixing it right and then you know what if you want to have some drama because people don't like you go ahead and do it right go hide in your bedroom after just dropping grenades here and there because that's just not fun for us to watch and we can look at it the whole time yeah it was it was fascinating to me because none of it needed to happen like I think no all of the things honestly because it only continues next episode and all of the and actually I think it's a little worse if I'm being good good no and so it's like all these things are just not coincidences and I just I really need people to be introspective like everything is not someone else

fault and everyone is not lying on you right there there are moments you have like you know what i fucked up right now i'm not going to handle this differently and i've been it but we don't see that unfortunately not yet at least yeah self-awareness is few and far between unfortunately and like you know not to keep harping on it but just the initial interaction where she's getting ready in the room and it's the freakneck party and everyone's downstairs like parties getting started people are having fun it's loud she's like i'm not going to be a part of that it's like yeah why are you there man like what is that yeah what is that by the way we're just drinking and dancing yeah so what do you mean like that to me i don't want to be a part of this boring

shit you're doing in the bedroom i want to go downstairs and party so like fine go to another house rent an Airbnb when she comes okay and get out of this house because they're killing my vibe yeah honestly usually i could really you know being this emotionally mature person who really tries to see different, but usually I can find something, but I really, I honestly couldn't. Like, I was like, I'm sorry, this did not, none of this needed to happen. No, she inserted herself where she did not need to. And that was weird. And then he's on, he's still doing it. He just did an interview where he's like defending her and their interactions and all that. And like, I get it. Wait into the reunion.

All right. Hey, yeah. Love that. Love that. Great reunion plug. Well, on that note, let's, let's get to some questions from our listeners because we got quite a few so uh we're not going to answer all of them but we'll do our best we'll pick out some of our faves shoots you got anything yet uh i'm just going to start us off nice and light uh somebody put us something in here from lem vibes you have a very nice ass but are you okay or annoyed that you had to show that much on screen thank you you know what i you know it was a shock to me because i didn't see how it fit with anything. Yeah.

But you know what? Here's the truth. I love my body. I love my body. Hell yeah. I think for it. Honestly, again, viewers don't know a lot about us personally, but like most of my work and career has been in sexual pleasure and bodily autonomy.

A lot of my work has been on like reproductive health rights and justice, like writ large and law and policy and on sex rape, sex, sex, too, pop sex ed. So for me, it's like I'm actually usually teaching people about it. the important stuff, caring about their body and owning their body. And so I, you know, it was a lot in the moment. But I was like, oh, whatever's going to ask. Who hasn't seen it? That's a great ass.

It looks great. I shouldn't say who hasn't seen mine. Who hasn't seen one? Who hasn't seen my ass? Good save. Tell Donald, I'm sorry for asking this if he's there. But from Ryan Stomeman, 83, who would. be your cast hall pass.

Oh, no. No, I'm always comforting questions like that. Funny enough. Would it be tattooed Nick? No, no, honestly, we'll be untatued Nick. Oh, there you go. All right. Good answer.

Nick is very handsome. Like, I know there are like, it's all fun. I mean, I think everyone on cast is attractive, to be honest. But Nick is honestly really handsome and smells great all the time. So that would be my answer. Well, then why didn't you wish him good luck on his race? I did. That's actually kind of wild.

I think even Nick pushed back on that a little bit. I mean, obviously not with what we've shown, because a couple of us actually did wake up to say, good luck. I think he was really just directing it toward everyone in the room, right? Yeah. But he actually specifically thanked me in summer, especially for doing so. Oh, that's great. So wasn't directed at you.

Well, you know, here's the thing. You know, here's the thing, I never get mad at the comments that I'm nor not directed to me because you're not talking to me crazy. So, like, I know that wasn't to me. All right, let's see what else we got here. I got one here. Yeah, I know, a lot of a mirror questions. I've got one here from Jay Watt, 104. How is your relationship with Silas?

Oh, yeah. Good question. We don't really have one right now. now. Yeah. You know, I, yeah, we don't. Like, I think there were, the way I can put this is I believe Silas had very specific expectations of me that he never communicated, that apparently I violated. And so for me, it's like we didn't talk about the things you're holding me to account for before this thing happened. And so we just don't communicate. He's also obviously still away, et cetera. Um, you know, and I'm extended all of France, right?

It's no hatred in my heart at all. That's still my line brother, my fraternity brother. But, you know, I didn't love how he showed up last year. And I'm going to be honest about that. And to be honest, he didn't love that. He didn't love that he didn't love that he was an asshole for an entire summer. That I made mention of it publicly. We saw it.

We saw it. You just want to be that. Your responses is exactly what I responded. And so, you know, I weren't. the bedroom when he's yelling at his wife about pants or breakfast like you're a grown man make your own fucking breakfast and iron your own fucking pants yeah and truthfully it was over a tweet that I also said in my confessional so I you know I you know when you hear someone you know you try to take it in and try to not be defensive of it but let's be clear there are certain things that

you may be upset me about that I actually find foolish and so it's like I don't want to dismiss you but I do not agree and I think that's ridiculous and so you know it's like how do you you move forward with that and so that's that ensure where we are okay yeah that's no and trust me i'm okay yeah we bet you are yeah things things happen you know let's see what else we got here oh i like this one from charnick one who would you vote out of the house if you had to My gosh. Spicy, spicy. Well, out of all of us,

out of the 10 of us, I imagine, right? Yeah. Yeah. You could throw Simon if you want, just to give you a safe answer. No, he's not a cast member. I like that. You're playing by the rules.

Yeah, so out of the 10 people, the person I would vote out is Brea, and I have to share why. For me, Brea has to be the answer right now because I just, I want to see evolution. And in some respect, I feel like she has copied season one into season two. And, you know, so maybe that means things will be a little different in season three. But I just, I don't know.

I just wish, I wish her truly the best. If not, I'm really not just saying that, like I truly wish her the best. Because there's a reason why she, why she can't communicate in the way she should. And I don't know if it's like childhood upbringing. gain trauma but i just because i don't think she's wrong all the time i just think the way she communicates most of the cast and which is why unfortunately we see her arguing with most of the cast yeah and so until until i feel like there's some kind of evolution my answer has to be her good answer i think that's fair yeah i think that's fair uh how many more you want to

do here steal i do more you do one more each yeah all right let's see Saved that for the end. Rachel Mickelis said, what is your favorite and your least favorite part of filming the show? Oh my gosh. My favorite, honestly, is all of our events.

You do have a lot of events. We have a lot of events, and we have so much fun. I have to make a comment about this on Twitter because people are always like, they never want to have fun. And I'm like, y'all think our brunches for 15.2 minutes.

Yeah, no. Like, we, like, I'm like, listen y'all this is just math at this point like only so much can be shown and you know what's decided to cover it is strategic right right um so but that's my most that's that's the thing i love the most is just how much fun we have like truly truly have i think what i hate the most hmm honestly i think it's just like waking up as early as we do like there are moments from the first summer to the second summer i will say we do get to sleep in a little bit more right but my goodness that first summer, we were waking up at like 8 a.m. getting mic up. And it was like, y'all, we just

at the bed at three. Right. And so it's like, you're probably not going to get anything from us because we're tired still. Yeah. Thankfully, the second summer, we were able to like sleep in a little bit more. So we're getting around like 10, like 10.30. But my God, that hurt something. Oh, my goodness. I was like, y'all, y'all not getting nothing from. here and this is from Casey Danzig and she says not a question just appreciate Preston and bringing more LGBTQIA plus representation on Bravo and I thought that was a nice way to end it but um thank you man this has been this has been so much fun we really appreciate you coming out yes it's a blast no this is you know I don't know what I didn't know what to expect but let me get that a lot

this has been one of my favorite reporting so thank you all yeah that's that's literally like Like, I would say 95% of our guests are like, I had no idea what to expect. Like, we had West on from a summer house. And he logged on and had never seen us before. And we were both sitting there like with backwards hats. And I think we were waiting for him. So we were talking shit to each other. And he's like, whoa, this is like the last thing I expect.

What's up? Yeah. Oh, my gosh. No, we're used to that. Good. Yeah. Well, thank you so much for coming out. And do you have anything you want to plug?

Anything coming up? Oh, my gosh. So, so much. So, you know, I don't, for folks who may not know, so I have the website, pressadmission.com, but if they do backslip, if you're viewers and listeners do backslash shop, so look at all of my merchandise that I have available. So I started to create merchandise and partnership with diversity merch who sponsors a lot of Black Brown and other diverse folks and our merchandise. So I have hats, mugs, canteens, coasters, t-shirts, sweatshirts, like, you name it. And a lot of it is either quotes or quotables that I've said on the show. One of it is my viral meme now of me turning around while I have a crab leg in my hand.

So, you know, prices are very reasonable and they're free shipping. So I really, really, really hope people get some Preston Mitch and merch. Hell yeah. Awesome. Do you think I could get a custom mug of your ass in the jockstrap? Let's see you can get that on Only Fans first. There you go. That's a great way to start.

The morning. Like drinking some ass. Yeah. Wake you up. But thank you so much, Preston. And we look forward to seeing the rest of the season and the reunion. And hopefully we get a season three because we absolutely love this show. But thank you again for coming, man.

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