Bros & Shows - Raquel and Sandy are Downtown at Abby (VPR, Summer House, RHONJ)

Episode Date: April 28, 2023

What's up Bro's?! This episdoe is dropping a few hours late because we are fresh on the heels of our amazing live show last night in Philly! Thank you again for everyone that showed up and showed out! On this week's episode, we head back to VPR where Sandoval and Raquel were spotted dancing at The Abby alone... DJ James Kennedy gives us an old fashioned drink toss, and we get to hear Lala say "The Don" way more times than we wanted to. In Summer House, the Danielle and Lindsay drama continues to boil over after Lindsay has a rough night with Carl. Kory and Sam are single handedly saving the show and we see their relationship beginning to blossom. Finally in Jersey, we get the end of the Ireland trip and tensions between Danielle and Fuda are really heating up. Teresa and Melissa have a few touching moments but it doesn't seem like enough to bridge the gap between them...  Time Stamps: VPR (10:12) Summer House (32:45) RHONJ (46:46) ------- This episode is brought to you by Factor. Delicious meal prep delivered right to your door. Stay on track to meet your goals with Factors quick, easy to heat meals ready to eat when you are. Go to FactorMeals.com/bravbros50 and use code BravBros50 to get 50% off your first box ------- This episode is sponsored by Dave. If you're in a pinch and you need cash now, Dave can help. Download the Dave app from the App store right now or go to dave.com/bravbros. Sign up for an Extra Cash account and get up to 500 dollars instantly. For terms and conditions go to dave.com slash/legal. Instant transfer fees apply. Banking services provided by Evolve bank and trust. Member FDIC. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Shooter what's up dude Not a lot I love the introduction very Very la la very the dawn In case people didn't know where that was coming from but uh you don't lot going on this week i'm uh i'm sitting over here packing getting ready for a golf trip we'll try to squeeze in a little extra motivation to get going for the live show tonight you know we're remote right now as you can see our first ever remote podcast not interviewing somebody else yeah yeah i mean i think it's going to go well we don't have to sit

next to each other and uh you know i don't see you in person which is always better for me yeah it's always don't mind you'll get you'll get your fill tonight you'll get your fill tonight how on that point how are you feeling how are you feeling about tonight you jacked up you ready to go yeah pumped absolutely pumped i got a great outfit i'm excited to see a lot of fans i'm excited to see dorinda and tell her how i feel about ultimate girls trip and like i this is this is going to be like a really good make or break moment i feel like because we talk a lot of shit on this podcast and we say how we actually feel and we don't tiptoe around it and i feel like a lot of people like that. The two star reviews might disagree when we get mad at, you know, their love,

their weird celebrity crush, but we aren't going to tiptoe around it. And I will tell Dorenda to her face. I didn't like the ultimate girl's trip. And that sucks. So I'm curious to see what her response is. She doesn't strike me as someone that's going to get like butt hurt about it. I think she'll. I think she might agree. I think so too. That's, that's my, my theory, but I kind of hope it goes the opposite direction. And she just like airs you out in front of everybody. That would be ideal for me. Yeah, that would be like the best outcome. But yeah, we're getting all all jacked up for the show.

It's going to be an awesome night. I've got 16 boxes I have to load into my truck to get downtown. And of course, it's wet and raining outside. So I had to figure out out. But we weren't going to do an episode this week just because we have so much going on. But we didn't think that was fair to our listeners to you guys that can't make it tonight. We're like, we've got to get something out for you guys. So it's going to be a little bit of an expedited episode.

but knowing us, we're not good at cutting things short. It'll probably end up being just as long as usual. But we're going to do our best to try to expedite. So with that, we've got no news this week. We're just going to jump right into our Rose and our Kdar Sharif. And I'm going to let you go first because we have a big moment in brav-brose history coming up. Two big moments, actually. So you go ahead.

Wait, what if my rose is a big moment in Brock Bros. history? then you have to announce that before you read your rose so so you have to determine but i wonder what the second big moment is in broad bro's history but anyway my rose is cosmopolitan magazine yeah that's that was what about so you're correct i never i mean you know what it was written in the stars that eventually we would be written up in cosmo we had no idea it was the funniest thing you were just googling us which i think is hilarious well here's the thing i google us periodically to see if people are talking shit on Reddit, because I don't know, I don't know how to work Reddit. It's the only way I can find us on Reddit. So everyone's now I'll Google like

brav bros just to see if people are talking smack. There's a funny comment for the Rosenthorne. And I Googled it. And that's the first thing that popped up. It was from April 6th. Yeah, three weeks ago, Cosmo wrote an article about what, 13 new podcast that you have to get into. The best new podcast of 2023. Which is funny because we started last year. But you know what? that's fine. But we were like ninth on the list. They called us brav boys. And yeah, honestly, I'll take anything. And there's no such thing as bad publicity. But we had no idea that the scene happens. Nobody let us know. So you found it and said it to me. And I'm like, that is hilarious. I've been laughing about it for like 12 hours now. I literally was like,

holy shit, like cosmopolitan like Cosmo. We're in Cosmo. And I had the same reaction. I showed dev i was like holy shit like we're in cosmo right now and she was like that's amazing we have to print it out and frame it and everything i'm like yeah totally it's like it's an amazing thing and i'm so pumped that we have that but i think to your point not in a a billion years did i ever think that the names steal and shooter would be cosmo it is really fucking funny i mean a lot of this like along the last year has been really funny mostly because it's been like good things like random good things will happen like bravo celebrities or other people will reach out to us and they really like us and we're like wow that's really nice this was just wild because like i could see

you know maybe somebody reaching out to us and being like hey you know cosmo's thinking about right like what are they going to what if they write a piece on us eventually we might be featured vanity fair is next okay look i think you need to settle down this is watching a lot of barry here's what i was afraid that this is going to go to your head so i'm glad it did oh it is glad to see you inflated. It's good. It's a good ego boost before the show. We got to get you nice and amped up. But yes, to sum it up, the bros are in Cosmo. It's pretty fucking cool. And I never thought it would happen. Anyway, on to your Kate R. Sharif. Yeah. So my Kate Ar Sharif, there was a really long review that didn't really make a whole lot of sense. So I'm not going to read that one. I'll

sum it up a little bit. Someone gave us two stars and then talked about all of the things that we do well, but still gave us two stars. And I'm like, I don't really understand that. So it's not really a Thorne. Maybe they don't know how to count. And they think that it's like golf and like lower stars are better. Like we give them the first star. Like it's yeah, I don't know, whatever. I'm going to read. I'm going to read this one. It comes from KG 023. Recaps with a touch of mansplaining. I don't, I just can't like we must have talked. I guess we talked about it last week. So maybe they're just trying to ruffle our feathers. But I liked these guys from their TikTok but their full pod isn't for me lots of mansplaining and understandably they don't

understand female friendships and relationships i'm glad i don't read this one i don't get that's like i don't understand it friendships are friendships we know that guys you know generally might not talk about shit might not get too deep and just kind of rub it off whatever but we also know that girls will do certain things and we watch them on tv like i don't don't, yeah, maybe we don't understand it because we're not a girl, for sure. But at the same time, we've watched so much of this that we don't really like dig up super deep. We just kind of surface level. So I think we look for patterns, right?

Like we don't tell them what to do, I don't think. No, and like here's my thing when I, because there's, there was a few of those this week. And that's always, I feel like the easiest way to come at us is just by saying like, oh, man's plain and just like let it go or saying like you guys need a female perspective. Look, I'm not saying that we won't. bring on somebody to give us a different perspective. I think that's important to always have other perspectives. I also understand that there are nuances to a female relationship that maybe we don't understand, but we don't claim to. My whole thing with these reviews is like, look, one, there's a lot of female podcasts out there that have the same views that we do. Two, if you want that perspective,

that's fine. There's a lot of really, really great female podcasts out there in this realm. There's a ton of fantastic ones. If you want that perspective, by all means, go listen. We love most of them. So if you come to this podcast, you're going to get a man's perspective. That's the whole point of the show. So it doesn't mean we won't bring on females or anybody to give us an outward perspective so we can change our opinions or just see it from a different direction. But we are the brav rose. Moving on, it was a week full of roses as the Cosmo thing. And we got a lot a really nice reviews. There was a couple of those Kate R. Sharif sprinkled in. But our second moment in Brab Bros. History, this one's a really funny one. And this is why I love our listeners, because

99% of our listeners are phenomenal. They don't leave bad reviews. They don't, you know, they understand where we're coming from or like what our schick is. Like, they get it. And Kate R. Sharif is no different. And I loved this out of her. So she messaged us and said, hey, bros, Thanks for naming this segment after me, L.O.L. For the record, I do listen every week. Love the takes. Roses and Thorne still bugged me, but my middle name is Rose, so this whole thing works. How about that?

Kate R. Sharif is Kate Rose Sharif. That's awesome. And honestly, like, kudos to her because we just spent that last segment of mine talking about how we don't understand these people. This is how you're supposed to approach things. Like, have a good sense of humor. Be on board with it. message us like we're pretty reasonable if you message us and say like that's kind of funny or even

if you message us and you're like hey guys like really not a big fan of doing that like don't really want my name out there we'd probably be like all right whatever like we get it not a big deal but you're on board with the joke and that's funny and you still stick to your guns and say like i still don't like the segment we understand that that's cool like talk to us like human beings yeah yeah you don't have to love it and because you're such a good sport and because you took this in stride. I'm officially renaming the segment. It's back to Rosen Thorn. Kate, that was a fantastic response. The fact that your middle name is Rose just brings this whole thing together. It was, I laughed out loud. I did an IRL, LOL, as I've seen in our comments. God. So that's my,

and then I don't even have a Thorne this week because we have a live show tonight. We have two fantastic interviews coming up with two huge names right now. Like they're in. the mix of vpr they're in the mix of jersey that's all i can say yep you're going to want to see these ones are coming up in the next few weeks um one of them has to wait until after the jersey reunion the other one i believe will be next week so stay tuned for us announcing that when it's all finalized we'll get it out there but we're going to start out with a quick run through a vpr and uh we start out with la la and katie it's the day after la la's birthday party and um we're We're talking about satch, a.k.a. satchel. Satch. My man, satch. But this is the first time that we get confirmation, I guess, that Raquel and Sandoval were spotted at the Abbey together, late night dancing. And I think what I took away from the scene was even though they had the information that those two were out together alone, there was still an air of disbelief. Like they didn't, they weren't.

totally like that's so weird why would they be there together they were more just like that's kind of strange no like yeah i i think that's a little weird but they weren't totally thrown off by it no i'm i'm a little confused actually because when santaval talks to sheena later he says that there were a bunch of other people there yeah that's what i don't know if that's i don't know if he's just thrown a smoke screen out there and like sheena can't verify that there were other people there like i fully believe that it was just the two of them and maybe there were that went there at the time like maybe they went from one place or they went to see you next Tuesday and then they went to the abbey afterwards and then they kind of dispersed and then at one a m

it was still Raquel and tom that's what i think happened now alley being there i guess she has other friends outside the show so maybe she walked in and saw whatever but the whole thing just seems like a smoke screen to me from tom and i think it's wild that we're starting to see and i will pull back a little bit on the hindsight crew because we are starting to see la la and even james next week talking about like how weird it is and then obviously we get the bomb from ken so like wait like the whistleblowers are so funny on this show it's alley who just joined the show who's doing very well doing awesomely and everybody it's so funny to see in real time i rt for you um on the show when people are like allie's got a good head on her shoulders like she actually

actually, there's a lot going on up there. Like, she's all over the place. And, like, she walks away from James and tells him that he's being a fucking idiot. Like, you're a joke. And I love that. But Allie and Ken, of all people. And that looked a little set up in the preview for next week. It was set up.

That's my whole point. I don't know if Lisa told him to say that. Yeah, probably. Yeah. I think she's like, Ken, you need to just drop this little nugget, walk out here and just say this and just walk away. Yeah. Like, I think that's totally planned. Like, clearly, Ken's not getting in the mix without being told to do so.

My man. I wish he would, though. It's so funny. It's really funny because you see this, like, delightful little old man. Like, I can't believe that. Michael was over at Sondervult. And they were not a good actor. No, he's terrible.

But I think it's almost so bad it's good. Like, oh, which is a plug for Ryan Bailey's podcast this week. So go check that out. So bad at school with Ryan Bailey. We finished our convo from last week on our podcast. It was a great time as usual. So go check that out. But moving on, we get this set up scene from the,

Tom's of trying to make Sandoval look like a victim and making Sandoval out to be the good guy in the situation like he's he's starting to plant seeds so clearly in his mind he needs to get set up to leave this relationship with Ariane that's how I took this and I thought it was really interesting that Schwartz must not be up on the take right now because he's like I have this weird feeling she's got a crush on somebody else and we're in the audience like oh And Sandoval's face lights up. He's like, really? Like, oh, really?

Who? Who he talked about? Could it be me? It really is. Like, it's so weird to see this in, you know, knowing what we know at this point in time. And like, we spent the last couple of weeks looking for these tiny little context clues. And now it's just full bore. Like this.

And I don't know if maybe Bravo cut it a little differently. Maybe they did. I assume they probably would have. But all of these little like breadcrumbs. if you will are there and they're not so small that like they're not subtle at all it's just so weird that like you see sheena and she's like oh i would trust raquel in bed with bro and then you get like everybody saying like no sandoval wouldn't do that it's like wow these people are idiots like i don't care really who you are but like i'm sorry but like if i saw one of my good friends who

was married or in a very serious relationship with another girl who has a weird etchy past and they're dancing together at 1 a.m. at a bar, I'd be like, yeah, it's fucking weird. It would raise a lot of red flags. I don't care who it is. And that's the thing. Like, you could be the best dad in the world. You could be the best husband of the world. If I see that, that's fucking weird. And the fact that these people are making excuses for it speaks to their character and honestly, just their intelligence. Like, how fucking dumb are you? Well, I, I agree. I think that if you see that something so blaringly obvious in the moment, like there should be more questions then giving them the benefit of the doubt.

They seem to be leaning towards the benefit of the doubt. But I think that that's a good portrayal of we as an audience when we found out because it's so hard to believe because Sandoval and Ariana have been this rock, weirdly, for so long in the Vanderpump world that they were so solid in our eyes and in their friend's eyes that even seeing him dance with Raquel at the Abbey, everyone's still like, there's just no way. Like he wouldn't step out on Ariana. It's not going to happen.

I do agree with you where if I saw anybody doing that, I'd be like, what the fuck? And I would ask them immediately like, dude, what are you doing? But I do understand that they're like with the benefit of the doubt thing because it's just so unbelievable. But then we move on with James and Allie real quick. And this is where Allie talks to James about seeing them at the Abbey. And she's trying to figure out like the best plan of action here. And then even James is like, I don't think there's anything like maybe go talk to Sheena. she loves gossip and like she'll just say it anyway well i like that ali's thought was like i don't

want to be involved in this at all but maybe i'll go talk to ariana it's like and then james with an actual brain goes yeah no if you don't want to be involved then you probably shouldn't go talk to her like that's that's muddy water yeah muddy water exactly and i just love that like and this is just the innocence or like the amateurism of not being in this show for long enough where ali's like i just don't want to be in the middle of this it's like oh no to no as soon as you told Katie and Lala at Lala's apartment that this happened, you're immediately in the middle of this. As soon as you saw it, honestly. Yeah, she wants to be in it.

It's, you think it's more of an act. Like, you know, I don't want to really be involved. Yeah, is definitely involved and she's okay with that. Yeah, totally. I think that the only reason she's still with James at this point is to be on the show. I think that's why she got with James in the first place. If they, I think they're still together. So maybe it's developed into something more.

But I think watching her deal with his shit, like you understand that, you know, she knows the assignment she's like all right like I want to be part of this I want to be part of the show here's my ticket in they might actually have genuine feelings I'm not trying to knock the relationship but it does seem like she has an agenda and I think she's doing it really well she's playing the game the right way because she's smarter than a lot of these people yeah she gets it she understands it and she knows how to play it to where she never comes out looking like she's crazy like she's always kind of mellow she's always even killed and I think it's a great approach especially with this group because if shit pops off which it will always she can always walk away from the situation like i'm not dealing with this shit she can drop a bomb and walk away successfully so i think she's playing the game really well and that'll take us immediately to her talking to sheena and um this whole scene we talked about a little bit already but i was literally like cringing in my i was like oh my god like i feel bad for she know that she has to watch this back knowing what she knows now because she's like sandoval and brock are like big brothers to rickal was like oh

gross and like I would trust him in the same bed I was like what the fuck does that even mean it's just a weird thing to say like why does your brain go there I don't know you don't have to go that far like we get it you're trying to hammer this point home but like nah you know what if dev was in bed with another dude even if he was my best friend I'd be like hey get the fuck out of bed what's going on yeah like I just don't it's so fucking weird and all ellie said was like could you imagine if like Brock was dancing with with Raquel at a club at 1 a.m. She's like, I'll do you one better. He's in bed with her now and they're not doing anything and I trust that.

It's like, okay, weirdo. Yeah, it did not age well at all. But she lets her know like the minute I see sand about, I'm going to be lighted right to it, which is what Ali wanted. Like she wanted to plant the seed and not be involved in the actual interaction of it. But she wants to get this ball rolling. And she does, again, a very good job. Allie's killing it this season.

And I really like her. I don't like her and James together necessarily. But at the same time, I kind of, I don't know. They have a weird, funny dynamic. They do. And I think that really the things that I don't like about them together really revolves around Raquel. And I hope that this old Raquel Sandoval thing.

Now, obviously, we know James is going to go crazy because him and Lala, when they're on the same page, they're almost like the same exact person. So it's really tough to get through that. But I'm sure that this is kind of giving him a little bit of closure and maybe finally moving on and that that might be why him and alie are still together and they're doing well is because maybe he finally moved on because that was really my only gripe is every time that they're together like james has to bring up rakel and talk about what she's doing with schwartz and now he's going to talk about the sand of all thing it's like all right move past that when it's just the two

of them alone i think that they have like really funny scenes and i like that again we got a little bit more of astrology but i'm okay with alie's version of astrology because it seems like she's like really invested in it at least she's not in it i guess i guess Well, she's smart. She is smart. I'm not saying she's not smart. It's just like, I don't know, dude, when you start talking about 16 moons in the seventh house of the Lord or whoever, I don't know. I guess spiritual is not religious.

So I don't know. I like her. I'm trying not to hold the astrology thing against her. I also don't like, I'm not doing this. I'm not going down this rabbit hole. Yeah, don't do it. It's not worth it. Don't worry about it.

Let's move on. Let's get to the beach. We've got the Don and Satchel, the satch. are both making an appearance. Walking onto the beach with their socks and shoes. There's shoebies. That must be like, that's got to be an L.A. thing.

Like if you listen to us and you're from L.A., tell us if you're like, oh, yeah, I'm just going to go to the beach today in my socks and shoes. Like, take them off. If you're in socks and shoes walking on like the promenade or like on the strip, take off your fucking socks and shoes

and walk on the beach. Like I don't understand these people that do that. If you look at rocket power, okay? Yeah. It was in California, right? That's where I heard the term Shubi for the first time. So if that's where Shubi came from is rocket power, which everybody knows is canon, that's that's real.

It's a documentary. Yeah. Everybody knows that. Then you're being a Shubi in L.A. They're in California. Don't wear your shoes on the beach ever. It's a terrible look, especially for a guy that's trying to like, you're coming into the group, Satch.

You're off to a tough start. You're getting a lot of flack from the commenters and a lot of flack from the audience. So like, do yourself a favor, buddy. Like, don't wear shoes on the beach. You're going to be on TV, man. Like, come on. Yeah, I don't, I, I don't know. I expected that out of the dawn because that's his fucking name.

But Satch, dude, like Satch looks like he plays hacky sack on the beach every day. Yeah, that's a good point. You know what I mean? Like maybe that's why he brought his shoes because if you try to kick a hacky sack with barefoot, it doesn't really feel that great. So maybe he wanted to wear the shoes and hack it up, brother. The interesting thing is someone posted a picture of him pre-permed haircut. He looked normal.

He looked okay. Like, it was not a terrible look. Like he's a run-of-the-mill looking guy. Like, I would very much see. him and Katie together but you throw the permed hair in there and I just can't yeah that's a weird L.A. shit that like us on the east coast we're just never going to understand that like it's just I don't want to give a scathing indictment of satch because we don't know him at all we haven't really gotten anything out of him so he could be a no but he could be a good dude and he's just

getting dragged because of his hair cut I'm sure he is a really nice guy he's a little overly affectionate and I don't want to watch that for sure he doesn't talk at all he's probably pretty quiet so you know i'm sure he's a nice guy just looks a little weird and i will always roast anybody that walks on the beach with socks and shoes oh well they deserve it but the big thing here is um going back to the james and schwartz issue with rickle and all that nonsense you think he's moving past he think he's getting better shorts makes an off color joke and it didn't land it was you know oh is this cascade opening bigger than rachela wasn't funny and it pissed off James to the point where he throws an absolute temper tantrum and starts stomping around the beach

because he's insecure about, like, that's all I get from this is like insecurity. And I don't really know why you feel the need to be insecure. Is it because you feel punked that shorts me out with your girl and now you're sitting on a blanket with him? Like, is that what it is? Is it simply because he's belittling the cascade thing? Like, I didn't understand why he got as amped up as he did. And I know James has known for that, but it still was like such a big reaction. I think that what really happens is he's not getting any gratification from other people and he views this in his own mind and because he's so, and we can say this like everybody knows it, he's so egotistical that when something like this happens and he gets this kind of opportunity, he gets amped up about it and his emotions are through the roof. If somebody doesn't match that and we didn't see anybody like la la even was just like, oh yeah, cool, like great. Nobody else in the group was like, congratulations, James.

That's fucking awesome. Like no one said a word, which sucks. probably does that does suck and i'm sure it bothers him and then when you throw a joke on top of that about your past engagement with the girl that you just hooked up with like i actually think the james is fine to fucking pop off like that i have no issues with him popping off like that because schwartz deserves a drink in the face he deserves to get punched in the face he needs to get punched in the face by someone i agree with lauren tough girl lauren a little bit later which he says you need a fist in your face like he does he is just he's been getting away with this dumb bullshit forever

he's starting to be mean because he doesn't have Katie anymore and he doesn't know what the fuck he's doing and he thinks he's just getting away with everything he just needs to get socked in the face launch and then maybe he'll shut up and James even said like I threw a drink at him he won't make that joke again I agree

I know what I didn't fully agree with you until that was a nice rant I see what you're saying and like if it had been anybody else other than Schwartz or Sandoval it would have been like that's too much here's my problem I do feel bad for James because I feel like when he has big accomplishments they get glossed over because of his emotions.

Like, he gets so jacked up about it that people don't match his energy ever, and I feel like it falls short. And I feel like they don't take him seriously. And opening for Cascade at a festival, it is a big deal. That's pretty cool. This is his sole focus as being a DJ. So, like, I wish that they'd shown up for him a little bit more and been like, wow, man, this is really great.

So I feel for him there. My big problem, though, is he's not doing himself any favors with this, because while you might be right, he deserves a drink in the face, you deserve to get popped in the face, whatever, he comes out looking bad because he can't bring it, he can't reel it in. It takes him so long to settle down that it just gets, had he done the drink in the face and been like,

fuck you and walked away. Yeah. Different story. To stomp around in front of people you don't know and cause a scene after the fact is where I took the issue. Because it makes him look bad in a moment where he didn't have to necessarily look that bad. Yeah, I mean, if you're, if you're DJ James Kennedy,

you probably don't give a shit that you don't know these people. Like, who cares? if you're going to stop like most of them do know you it's really just don't really know you and satchel that don't really know you and who cares uh the dawn oh okay i don't know don't he didn't fucking talk today dude i don't but i don't want to hear him talk dirty anymore but i know when they're like fed up and i texted you this as it was happening the fact that lala takes the time to say let's go the don like in that moment please for the love of God, just call him Don.

And Bravo with the subtitle too. Like I watched the subtitles anyway, but Bravo showed it. And I'm like, why are you doing this? Maybe they want us to be mad about it. It just irks me. It's like, his name is Don. And like, if his name is the Don, then you can use that when it's appropriate. Then it would actually probably land every once in a while.

Like, oh, yeah, he's the Don. Like, big Dick the Don. Like, that's funny. But when you drop it in a sentence where it doesn't fit, like, let's go with the dawn, like that, oh, it got a. under my skin. But then we go directly to the bar. And this is kind of where we finish up, but tensions are still so high with everybody in the group to where I had to write down at one point that, guys, you're 40. Like, this is a bad look for the whole group. Everyone's yelling

at each other like you're like off of a college party, like in your like early 20s and having a bad night all around. Everyone needs to settle down. No one's coming out looking good here. I will say when Schwartz and James are squashing things and Lala comes up, I don't know if I've heard a better insult than you're the definition of a sponsored post. Like that is gold. It is really funny. And I don't like that. He said a lot of mean shit. Yeah, he said a lot of mean shit.

But that, if we can just isolate that one, like that's really funny. It's just a good clapback. Yeah. And it's like, what's the name of her podcast? Like get to know. Give them Lala. And he goes, give them Lala. Who the fuck is Lala?

like that was funny but then to like he should have stopped there it's never okay to go after looks it's never okay to comment on plastic surgery on the face like that was way over the line and and again shows you who Schwartz really is like that the whole that whole interaction was a peek behind the mask like he loses the puppy dog thing for a split second and it goes from zero to a thousand because instead of stopping it you're the definition of a sponsored post give them Lala who the fuck is Lala now you bring the looks into it and it completely negates any good clapback you had it makes you look like a chauvinistic asshole which he is and then he walks right over and just starts eating wings and then when lala actually walks away after saying her piece he's like lala

don't leave yeah don't do you come dude like you're so fucking all over the place like yeah he's a figure it out dude he's just a worm and i'm glad that it's getting to the point now where like scandivall is completely taken the mask away from him like everyone's season for who he is finally dev's been saying it since like season one so kudos to her but it is it's a it's a full peak la la to her credit has never fallen for her shit she has been on the page of he knows exactly what he's doing for multiple seasons now she's never gone for that schick so credit where credits do she's read him from day one but the episode ends with you know everyone's still trying to i guess settle things down and the abbey talk comes up and sandoval stands up in front of the group to like defend himself which is

in hindsight insanity that he has the nerve to go after anybody for this like this is something that ryan kept saying on his podcast dude just shut up like shut up and sit down you're a scumbag you're a dirt bag you are doing all these things you were at the abbey with her for nefarious reason so like sit the fuck down shut the hell up get ready for the beating you're about to take because you're a piece of shit and you deserve everything coming your way yeah no he absolutely does. And like, I don't even want to talk about that because he just fucking sucks. I'd rather talk about Katie in this instance where she like, I fully believe Ali when Ali says what I heard from you is that, you know, their relationships, there's no rules there. Like, I think Katie knows

that she said that. And I hate, I hate, I hate that I agree with Tom Sandoval when he says like, you never take responsibility for anything. You've got Schwartz over here saying, like, you know, I fucked up, I did this, I did that, whatever, I should have done things better. We've never seen Katie say that. Yeah, that's true. We never seen her take accountability. And while Schwartz was definitely 90% of the problem, I was sure, there is a moment that could, you know, we talk about our humanizing moments where you could get on the same page as Katie and understand like, you know, there's two sides of the street. Like, were you perfect?

Probably not. Like, there's probably some things you could have done better. And if you had the wherewithal to be like, you know what, this is where I felt short, we all know, we all know that shorts is the problem. but it would go a long way with the audience and your friends probably if you're just like, yeah, you know, I could have done better here. He's the problem for sure. We get it. Yeah, we know that.

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because overall the episode was fun. We got more like the party scene, which you like to see, like to see him having a good time. So I enjoyed the episode as a whole. But let's start it out. Let's just knock it out immediately. Danielle, Carl, Lindsay. We get the aftermath of the conversation with Carl and Danielle and Danielle screaming into the pillow. But they seem to come to some kind of agreement here where they're on the same page at least.

Now, do you think that Carl could have been more defensive of Lindsay? do you think that he kind of took the easy road to just like smooth things over with daniel or was he just doing his part of this this thruple if you will yeah i i've been struggling with how i feel about how carl's handling a lot of things because in a way i see a lot of growth and like i've been watching the show for years and i've seen carl in the past just be a complete dick and now it seems like he's trying to smooth things over he's trying to take you know sort of like the path of least resistance and he's eating a lot of shit while doing this he's being very mature. He's being entirely, like, very mature. And at the same time, I see it where I'm like,

you know what? Like, yeah, in that instance, you have to stop thinking about yourself talking to your friend Danielle. Like, there's more going on here. And I feel like he didn't really touch on that. He didn't defend Lindsay. So while I don't necessarily agree with Lindsay freaking out about that and yelling at him all night. And that was just a really tough scene to watch with them in bed. I do think that he could have, you know, at least stepped a little bit into that because at the end of the day, like even if you look in the past, the three of you were best friends. And if one of them stepped on the other's toes, you do have a say in that. And even now you have way more of a say because you want to keep this friendship going and you're in a relationship with Lindsay. Like you have a lot of responsibility here. And I feel like he's not willing to go that deep. So while he is being mature, I just think that he could push a little bit further and be. you know, a better boyfriend and a better friend and really help this along because as long as he's doing this and just kind of like surface level bullshit, it's never really going to solve anything. Yeah, I agree. I think he could have gone a bit further here instead of

just like smoothing things over with her. You're right. It's tough because it's not a bad conversation and he did do his part, but there was more there. There was more meat on that bone that he could have helped further the conversation with Lindsay and Danielle instead of being like, yeah, you guys need to talk, but watching those two, like the drunk aftermath and Lindsay's just like losing her shit, we talked about it on Bailey's podcast, but we've all been both of those people, right? We've all been Lindsay in that situation and we've all been Carl in that situation where you're like, oh my God, like just go to bed, let's figure this out tomorrow. Then watching that whole thing break down, I think you just chalk it up to a bad night.

I think that there's a conversation that needs to be had in the morning. I thought Carl handled himself very well and not escalating it and trying to like settle Lindsay down and clearly Lindsay's just lit and trying to get the last word and trying to get a rise out of him. But what I didn't like is cut to the room over and you see Paige and Amanda like giggling like schoolgirls

like he he like we love to hear them fight. Like I hate that everyone's rooting against them seemingly even though they're not like outwardly saying like we don't like you guys like when they hear tension between those two, they jump on board this train of like giggling and laughing about it. And that's that's fucked up. No, it is. It's entirely immature. And like, that's something that we always talk about when it comes to, you know, kind of that side of the house. And we saw a little bit of growth. But all indications point to really that conversation that Lindsay and Amanda had when they went out to lunch. Like that step was huge. The fact that

they were able to sit down together, but I got nothing out of Amanda. Like Amanda said nothing. Lindsay was the mature one. Lindsay was the one who was open about her feelings. She really opened up for like the first time that I've ever seen her do that with Amanda before. And Amanda gave her absolutely nothing. So like I just don't think that Amanda wants to be friends with Lindsay. I think that they have way more fun being Amanda, Paige, not really Sierra as much. Sometimes, but not like. Yeah, she's in the mix. But like, I feel like Sarah's in the mix like an appropriate amount of time because look i'm not excusing lindsay's behavior most of the time but i understand that like it's got to be really tough for her everybody's fucking hating

her now you're allowed to pick like some emotions or some actions that she does and be like you know what like now like lindsay kind of deserves this at this point in time but she doesn't deserve it all the time and i feel like that's kind of where sierra is but amanda page love love love love hating on that. And I always hate when we watch things on TV. Like we talked about it with Lala, like praying on the downfall of somebody else. It's like, yeah, I don't want to watch other people do that because, you know, at the end of the day, like that's taking up way too much space in your brain rooting against another human. Just fucking let it go. Like, you don't have to be friends with them, but don't sit in the other room and be like, I'm going to be the person that gives

Danielle a hug, even though I'm not really friends with Danielle. I'm just taking this opportunity to hate Lindsay. It's like, it's fucking disgusting. Well, it takes us to a really good point is like every time we see lindsay and daniel talk lindsay brings up very good points points that are like directed at the situation to challenge daniel she's like okay you're saying now to carl that we're all cool but two days ago you told me to my face that you think it's weird that we're dating like what is it is it the fact that they're moving too fast is it the fact that you're losing two of your friends or is the fact that this makes you feel bad about your own relationship Like, you need to pick a lane, but she conveniently just jumps back and forth to whatever fits that specific moment.

Like she always, always changes the subject. When Lindsay challenges her, she's like, you thought it was weird two days ago. And she changes the subject. When Carl's like, you moved in with Robert after two months, he's like, well, are you not looking for rings? It's like, that has nothing to do with what he just said. Right. He said, did you move in with Robert after two months? That is fast.

Did you do that? Yes or no. Don't ask about a ring. That's irrelevant to the situation. That's a different point entirely. but she can't be in the moment and just take it and answer and respond to have a grown-up conversation she changes the subject storms off goes to page and Amanda and then she starts spinning this whole narrative of what happened that's not true she paints lindsay out to be this

emotional unstable that just reacts to everything instead of being like this is what the conversation was and then it gives those two ammo against lindsay which they don't need any more ammo and then we see them all take this side against lindsay and it makes no sense and ryan said it really well yesterday he's like in this moment during the show during filming amanda and page probably feel like they're winning the season they're like oh my god we took the right stance we're just going to hammer this home they don't realize that us as an audience they're losing us like no you guys look like idiots like this is a terrible look for you daniel's coming off horribly and it's all just projection and it drives me nuts no and it's crazy that if daniel could just take

the approach that like when kyle was talking to day or when kyle was talking to lindsay and carl outside after daniel stormed off that is kind of what daniel should have said like it's got to be like kyle goes it's got to be weird for her you guys were the three best friends and now two of you were dating and you guys don't seem to and i i agree with kyle they don't see Carl and Lindsay don't seem to be inclusive of Danielle. Like just because you two are dating doesn't mean that the three of you can't hang out still. You can reach out and be like, hey, what are you up to? Like you want to come over for dinner?

It'll make it a little bit easier to understand that they're dating. It's the problem is that Lindsay and Carl seem to only hang out with each other all the time. And then when they bring other people in, it's weird because they're not used to it. So allow somebody a little bit of growth to get used to it, especially someone who was as close as Danielle was to the two of. you for so long. It's got to be fucking weird for her. And I hate that like Carl kind of gets it. I hate that Lindsay denies it too. She's like she just has to get on board with it. Like she doesn't support the relationship. It's like, okay. But deep down, you know that it's got to feel a little bit weird. Yeah. Like there's a middle ground here, right? Like there's a way.

Yeah. And throw in Danielle dating Carl a couple years ago too. Like there's a lot of components to this. And I feel like neither side is really owning up to just the middle part where it's like, all right, it's a little weird. Let's work on it. You want to be friends? Let's hang out. The three of us will hang out. Right. Yes, Carl and I are dating. Yes, Carl and I are going to get engaged. Support us. Be friends. Like, that's how it's supposed to work. You have a relationship and Daniel's just projecting that. But now that, you know, that's kind of gone to the wayside, who knows where they are. And we talked to Carl a couple weeks ago. And it seems like, you know, there's hope maybe for Danielle in the future to be friends with them. But right now,

you just can't really see a path forward because she's not supporting a relationship. No, no. And I think you said it really well. There's there's a place where they can admit their faults and be like, yeah, we could be doing better and we apologize, but you're handling this terribly. And I think that that's where they would find some kind of peace. But it is nice to see a blossoming. Wow. A blossoming relationship with Corey and Sam headed to Montauk for the week before next weekend. And it appears to me that Bravo realized Corey Kiefer saved this show. And they're like, we just need you to keep. coming back. You're part of the cast now because without you, this was a dud, without Sam, it was a dud. Those two are carrying the season. They're doing a great job. I love how crazy they are together and they like match each other's energy the whole time. Like that's fun. That's finally some fun shit to watch on this show. So I'm all here for it. Yeah. And we talk to Ryan about it and we can kind of just gloss over the rest of it because not a whole lot more happened. But when it comes to the newbies, like when you have somebody like Chris and Sam and Gabby coming

into the house and like Maya, who the hell knows where she is. They aren't able to grow. They're not able to kind of find their comfort zone on this show because you have an existing fight with the older cast. Like mixing in new people and just throwing them at the wall isn't always going to work. But for some reason, you bring Corey in and all the sudden summer houses back. They're party. They're having fun. They're doing shots. They're dancing. They're, you know, wanting to go out and like pushing people to go forward. And you can kind of start to see like somebody like Chris, like he's starting to find his own. And maybe it's, you know, it's August now. So he's had two months to kind of figure it out. But I think that Corey is a big catalyst in

that throw in the fact that he's now has a relationship with Sam. And everybody just seems to be a little bit happier. So we can kind of focus on that as a bit of a reprieve, like them having fun. And for whatever the hell reason, they're drinking and running around the pool and doing sit-ups afterwards. Hate that. But I just can't imagine like I see people that do like, they do the 5Ks but they'll have like a beer before they run a 5k and then they'll have a beer halfway through and then they'll have a beer afterwards and I'm like no who the fuck's doing that you haven't seen that some of the bars like around here will like iron hill will sponsor one and it's like have a beer before you're 5k and then I've seen beers after I've never seen a beer

is fine because that's like a reward you know it's like a reward um but they that's a that's a safe reward system have a drink have a drink you earned it you ran you ran 3.2 miles have a good time But drinking before doing that doesn't make any sense to me. Drinking during it, I want to throw up right now thinking about it. So I hate that. But I do love that everybody's kind of coming into their own. And if we can get past this whole Lindsay Carl Danielle bullshit and allow people like Kyle to come down and hang out and have a blast like summer house could be back on. And I hope that we're still waiting.

Carl said there's a lot of meat left on the bone for the season. So hopefully by the end, we're looking back like, all right. Yeah, it was a little rough in the beginning, but it got better. Hey, look, so far, he's delivered on his promises. He said the next few weeks are going to get better, and each week has gotten progressively better. So we will always, I will say, yeah. That's a good way to put it. And we will always hold out hope because this is Shooter's favorite franchise.

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should be or we just do a housewives of ireland housewives of dublin i like that that sounds fun because you know what we're going to get a little bit of that like that good like philly kind of city like you know what i mean like it's more gritty than like beverly hills i think it could be a lot of fun So let's pitch that idea and we'll have, you know, sort of the matri d be Paul's mom. I love this idea. I think we need to push this a lot harder. This is our best idea yet. This is better than real housewise of Cleveland.

This is way better than Cleveland. This actually has some merit to it. So I like this direction. But during this, and we get a few of these throughout the episode, we get a very touching moment between Melissa and Teresa where I guess Paul's mom made like a comment about like Dolores early on and Teresa made a joke like, oh, it was funny back when my parents were around. They said something similar about Melissa. Like they walked in. Like, remember that Melissa was like taken aback? She's like, oh my God, yeah. Like I was in bed with Joe and they came in.

They called it. What was it? Like a Putana. Yeah, something like that. And it was just like a genuine real moment and like a callback to when things were cool. And it kind of was foreshadowing. I didn't know that for the rest of the episode. But we get to the hen part. which is a bachelorette party in Ireland, I guess, which looks like a blast. I would do this as a bachelor party. No, yeah, that looked like a lot of fun. You would catch the cock?

Without a doubt, I would catch the cock. And I would be the best one there. I would catch all the cocks. I'd catch a couple of cocks, yeah, for sure. But I want to get to the painting scene. They're painting Teresa's life, and that's like the job of the friends to just, like, highlight the moments that made Teresa who she is, I guess.

And it wasn't funny, but it was funny because she starts crying. And she's like instantly starts thinking about jail. And like in my mind, as soon as I heard like they have to paint her life, I'm like, who's going to be the asshole to draw bars? Like someone's got to draw bars on this wall because that was a big part of her life. Yeah. The interesting thing is she calls attention to it really for the first time ever. She has glossed over that part of her life.

Understandably so. She doesn't want to think about it. She's moved on. It was a terrible time. she missed her family. She missed a lot of milestones. I totally get it. I don't care who you are. If you've served your time and you're out, like you don't deserve to be thrown under the bus and like brought back to your attention. So I get it. It just was like kind of struck because I was like, oh, who's going to someone's got to do it. Yeah, you expected somebody to actually do it or at least

paint like some other issue. And it seems like the only real issue that we got and it wasn't really an issue was just Jen painting the table flip, which was iconic. It is the that's funny. That's what put housewives on the map. Yeah, exactly. And I thought that Jen actually did a pretty good job because it looked like they didn't have great tools. And Jen somehow captured that moment perfectly. It looked really nice. Sure did. But I mean, kind of going forward, I love the farm hand when Teresa starts crying and she needs a, you know, a second to go outside. And she was amazing with her painting and stuff. He's like, usually when I give people puppies, they stop crying. Yeah, he's a puppy. Oh, you need a, he need a puppy. Everybody loves puppies. But you can tell like, Teresa was so shell shocked from trying to catch a

chicken and walking around with all these farm animals she was like wait is that a puppy like is that or are you handing me like a baby goat or something it's a sheep you can tell she genuinely had no idea what he was handing her and then she's like oh okay this is great yeah and it did cheer up so bro i like the farm hand i think he he was excited to be on tv you could tell and he played it very well i thought he did a great job we love enthusiastic uh helpers totally it's like that yeah yeah it's great And once again, we get a very touching scene between Melissa and Teresa because this was probably the most real. I've seen those two interact.

This was an actual moment of Jesus Christ. What have we done to our family? It's just, it's brief and fleeting and it goes away at the next scene. And that's kind of their MO. They have these touching moments. And then it's quickly back to the shit that we get tired of. But Melissa starts crying because it's Teresa's mom and dad coming over from Italy and then their family growing. from there and it was a terrible drawing but it was a very very touching like what what it meant

and to see them to see them cry and embrace each other and have that confession where it's like what have we done to our family like our parents would be so disappointed in us i was like wow there is a path forward if someone's willing to take that step but they just refuse to and we see it when they get to the lunch teresa immediately says when daniel is reacting to like seeing her and melissa feuding and she's like yeah it's really hard like i don't have a family she says i don't have a family and it's this immediately after that touching moment with your sister-in-law so it's like two steps forward 10 steps back you don't have to say that just like accept this for what it is it's a nice moment see where you can go from here but again i

say it all the time no one's going to bend the knee no one's going to take ownership and just be like you know what our family's more important than our trivial bullshit let's just move on it's gloss over it you're right i'm wrong and during that painting scene teresa invites melissa to be part of the wedding and immediately rescinds it immediately jens it and when she rescinded it i felt like um who was it was it uh marge who was like wait are you inviting them no that was jen jen said oh yeah and i could tell like jen felt weird about that it was almost inflammatory right yeah and then that kind of brought teresa right back down like there was a nice moment there when melissa was completely speechless she was like what like you want to do what

and jen had to say that and and then teresa kicks right back in she's like no no no no absolutely not like what the fuck and like you have this nice touching moment and honestly like i'm starting to shade a little bit more towards melissa's side because i'm too kind of get it like you've done these things and you had a really nice moment and you took time out of your day to be really nice to her. And I honestly thought that that was a direct correlation to Teresa and Melissa having that nice moment at breakfast. And Melissa felt more comfortable doing something like this. If that didn't happen, maybe she wouldn't have done something this nice. She tries to go out of her way to be nice again and she starts crying and she's actually showing emotion and saying that she's sorry about how things

are going. And Teresa can't get out of her own fucking way. And like, I kind of get it. Like Melissa and Joe, Joe is inflammatory, but Melissa on her end, she's like, why would I continue to try? Like, every time that I do try, Teresa does this. Yeah. And I've never really seen Teresa, like, when she does try, she immediately pulls back herself. When Melissa tries, Teresa squashes her down. So it's really tough. And I'm sort of, I'm shading that way, if you will. And again, we don't really need to pick sides. We just want it to go away. It's not as long as it's here. Like, we're still going to have opinions on how it's going. And that's kind of where I am right now. Yeah. And I think I'm going to put a disclaimer out there.

This is not saying that shooters are on a team. No, I am. I'm on the Gorgate team. Whoa. I'm going to go full glad out. But I think that if you look at just the details, right, trying to stay as objective as possible. Like, does Melissa do shady shit?

Absolutely. She's not blameless here. We know that. We're not saying she is. We're not saying she hasn't played a major part in this. But we are seeing moments that could be great for their relationship. and it seems like Teresa is the one knocking them down. So, yeah, I'm leaning more towards the Gorgas.

I'm not picking aside, but I am definitely leading that way. And mainly because I'm worried about Teresa and Louis' relationship, just his influence on her overall, the more and more we see from him. But the last thing we need to talk about this episode, I mean, we can quickly touch on the dudes getting stoned, which is ironic that Marge not only is okay with it, but champions it by bringing in like a munchy cart, after she calls Jen a drug addict for smoking weed and now she's an advocate for

munchies and smoking weed at her house it makes absolutely no sense well she did apologize right she did say that that was too harsh okay but look anytime the marge actually apologizes though you have to fucking think about it like she never actually apologizes so when it does happen you're like all right i think that is a genuine apology you have this weird thing with marge and i don't appreciate it. I really don't. Like, at one moment, you're, like, on my team, like, anti-Mars the next. You're like, I kind of see where she's coming from. So, like, I, no, no, I don't see where she's coming from at all. She never should have said that in the first place. And for her to do this now is entirely hypocritical. It's really rough. Thank you. But she did apologize at some

point. So I'm just saying pointing to the apology. I'm just saying, no, but I do love her husband. Like he is fucking hilarious. The way he got so high and just kidding. And then everybody's just like in the middle of what might be a feud a bit with Fouda stepping up and saying something to Danielle's husband. Hey, what's up to get through it? Yeah. What's up with your wife, call my wife a rat? And neither of them were backing down for the, you know, 20 seconds that we got to see.

And then you get Frankie and Joey just giggling over there because. Yeah, it's, you can't have serious. And then they just go, look at Joe, but, you know, like, he is out of it. His eyes are like this. Like, you can't even see straight. I love that. that and bill was so excited because that's what he wants to do like that's probably what he's doing in the pool house 100% he's smoking a fat blunt and like avoiding his family but i i there's mixed

reviews always when it's just a uh husband's only seen i love them i think they're great that might be it might be a dude approach maybe from us like just be like oh we love to see this kind of shit but also it's just a nice reprieve to see people giggle and have fun and it was really funny to see them attempt to start fights you see joe start to do what Joey, Gorga, start to do one of his speeches where he's like, I want to raise my kids with love. And I want them to love everybody. And he can't stay focused long enough to finish a sentence. And he just stops talking. He's like, I forget what I was saying. It's like, you know what, Joe, that's okay. Just accept the moment, get stoned with your buddies, eat some cheeseburgers and

shit and hang out. It doesn't have to be deep all the time. So I like this little reprieve. But the thing that we're going to tie it all together with, and it's exactly what food have brought up, Danielle versus Fuda, and we, I think we agree for the most part. We have different stances a little bit as far as, like, who's winning. What's your take? So Fuda versus Danielle, we see it pop off at the dinner table in Ireland. I personally am still a Danielle fan, but I would love to get your take. It's, I'm not necessarily a fan of either, nor do I dislike either of them.

I'm kind of giving them room to grow. I do, I think that we can agree that food is playing the game a lot better than Danielle is right now. She's definitely playing better. Yeah. Danielle seems a little shell shocked, but she seems to be coming back a little bit. I just can't really get over the fact that she's still, even in Ireland, in a house full of these women, is still walking away and crying. And obviously, there is way more to that story with her brother than she's letting on. Should she have brought it up in the first place? Probably not. It probably would have come up eventually, though, because at this point, somebody's going to know what's going on. I'm happy to have been more seasoned, right?

would have been able to approach it better. Maybe she would have been able to handle it a little bit better, but I'm happy that somebody like Jackie's taking the back seat, like she's not antagonizing anymore, or at least it doesn't seem like she is. Well, she keeps saying, dude, she keeps saying instead of a non-credible or uncredible source. Incredible, yeah. Incredible. And she keeps trying to drop it in.

Like she's this like savant. And it's like, dude, the words either not credible, uncredible, incredible implies she's wonderful. So shut the fuck up. Like, I can't stand her. I know she's she's she has to just go completely just go away next year like doesn't get invited on these trips or anything but the rest of the women are having a good time and we get to see the newbies grow a little bit now you are of the thinking that food is just kind of lumped in with Marge at this point she's just saying she's another mouthpiece for Marge she's trying to say the right sentence to get in March big oh yeah Rachel you keep going that way like I love what you're saying she just she picks her moments are way too scripted I think that there's a little more to it. So I think that Futa, you know, obviously she was called a rat. Like you, you can't call somebody a rat in Jersey. It just doesn't happen. I don't, you think she was a rat? I don't think so. I think that she, she's playing the game and that's how we're going to write it up.

I think being a rat is a little much. But she's saying that. And then in the same moment, she notices that Danielle at the farm is having a tough time talking about her brother. And she goes, do you want to go take a walk? So she extends that olive branch, even though she's a half ass olive branch. No, it's not. No, it's not. But let's flash back. Let me counterpoint it real quick, calmly. Let's flash back to last week.

Danielle offered her an olive branch and food a shit on it immediately. Danielle set at the dinner table and they're at that restaurant. She's like, hey, if you need to use my bathroom to get ready or whatever, like you can come upstairs, it's no big deal. And it was like, yeah, I probably not going to share a bathroom or someone calling me a rat and, like, pops off and starts yelling. But that just shows you, they all, every person, every housewife in Jersey told you that calling somebody a rat is bad, right? Well, wait, but why is this? different. Why is this a different olive branch? Why, why, why is your olive tree different than Danielle's olive tree? She called her a rat. She's not open. She is a rat. I don't think she's a rat. If the

shoe fits, she's the more, the first time I heard it, I didn't agree that she was a rat. The more that I see her snuggle up to Marge and not take accountability for the fact that there was two people in that conversation. There was two people there having that conversation. We just talked about it. And if you have to pick teams, which it looks like you have to pick teams in Jersey. Yeah, unfortunately. fortunately you're probably going to go the way of marge at this point they're having more fun like teresa is teresa and louis are unhinged maybe you can be like you can still you know be quote unquote team marge and still you know be pleasant with somebody like jen or be pleasant with teresa it would be nice to like group up in that but if somebody calls you a rat you don't

have to forgive them right away like if somebody called me a rat i'm going to be like oh you called me a fucking rat like fuck you i don't know i just don't think that i just don't think that i just don't think that the crime warrants the name calling by that and i think that there was an olive bridge and if you're going to go walk on your own with somebody else you might be able to squash it and that was a good opportunity hey daniel i'm really sorry i know there's a lot going on right now try to squash this a little bit daniel says no and it continues to go there was an opportunity there and she didn't take i don't think i would have taken it either that's the thing and maybe that's the difference and i think you bring up a really good point

there doesn't need to be a firm line in the sand and we're tiptoeing on dangerous ground here and ryan bailey actually brought it up with all this talk about daniel's brother and whatever happened there we're going a very dangerous direction that they might just be trying to repeat a teresa and melissa and joe situation with daniel and her brother and like that is the last thing that we want and need and whether you're on food side or daniel's side is kind of irrelevant I agree 100% that I would like them to at least be pleasant. I would like there to not be that it doesn't need to be Marge versus Teresa anymore. We're tired of it.

It's played out the fact that they both pick sides. If they do that for this season and then they kind of branch out and grow up and move on, okay, fine. I can get on board. It's close to the end of the year. We're getting close to the reunion. Fine. But if this is the direction that the producers think that we,

the audience want to go, they're very wrong. Yeah. no i think you're right it's dangerous ground we don't want this to continue they need to figure out a way to move forward and they i mean they tried to infuse the new blood in it and it just kind of made things stay the same so if they forced them to fix it well and we know that they have like some sort of direction like they do meet with producers that say like all right this is how the season's going try to do a little bit of this try to do a little bit of that let's get a personal story over here like you can't just have jen uh aden be the

only person that has a personal story. Like we haven't seen any other personal stories. Like they're just attacking Danielle for a story that we don't quite understand. We don't know who does. The only thing the food is bringing to the table is just that she knows how housewives work. Like she's watching the shows for years and she's playing the game. Like, okay, whatever, but there's nothing of substance there. Like, we're not getting to know you. And maybe we will because she is doing the whole custody thing with Jaden. So that's cool. But other than that, like we're not getting shit from anybody else except for Dolores. And we're rooting for Dolores and Paul because we love it. always yeah we want to see her happy she deserves it we need more of that so that we can like we always talk about getting a reprieve from the bullshit that we're tired of and this whole joe melissa and teresa thing is just getting tired and we don't want to deal with it anymore let's just try to find a different storyline and i don't know if they ever will hopefully it's not the death of jersey but it's heading that way for sure they need to figure something out um but you got anything else nope i'm done here yeah and

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