Bros & Shows - Reunion Part One (RHOBH Full Recap)

Episode Date: April 28, 2026

What's up bros? We're so done with this show that we don't even have a fun name for this episode. Our main takeaway from this episode, while it wasn't a terrible reunion episode, is what are we going to do in episodes 2 and 3? It just doesn't make a ton of sense moving forward unless we're going rinse and repeat with Kyle & Dorit. Are we going to have packages for Kathy & Jennifer? We just don't know what to expect moving forward but again...we're almost done! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

You ready? Yep. I'm preoccupied. All right. I will say this. Not terrible. That was a fine reunion episode. I don't want to just like shit on it for the beginning.

That was fine. But here's the problem. We've talked about everything now. What's there left to discuss in episode two and three? Yeah, I guess structurally it was fine. I mean, when you're talking about content that we just don't fucking care about, like cool. Erica has a new man, but we spent 10 minutes on it.

Whatever. It was fine. It was fine. That's all I'm giving it. As there's a drive in a deep left field by Castellanos. Oh man, it's 8 o'clock. And so that'll make it a... I don't need the spotlight.

I shine just fine. Hi, I'm karma. And yes, I am a bitch. Bravo Bros. Good evening, everybody. Welcome back to another episode of Bravo Bros. Your favorite podcast from the Bros. for everybody for whoever wants to listen i'm your girl host steel russle joined as always by the one

and only reunion magutes what's up dude isn't this show about having designer clothing like isn't that just all it is you just show up in your designer clothing you're like hey here it is all right uh see you you guys later cool we're good i thought that that line honestly exposed a lot because she came into the show with an idea of what she was supposed to do, which I get to a certain extent. But that goes to show you, like she had a game plan. She had all this stuff that she wanted to say intentionally. She was forcing things out. She wasn't authentic, which is what everyone was saying.

Like her big problem with Bose or Bose's big problem with her is just that. You're not authentic. And you confirm in that line that you are not authentic because you came in with this preconceived notion of I'm just going to say this and do this and put out my Chanel and do that. So you're fake. And that's what Fos was saying. Well, it's funny too because I don't even think it's that deep. I just think it's it's funny the way that she had like a misconception about what this is.

Like, yes, this show actually is about having all of those designer things, but it's walking in with a cool dress, someone asking you where that dress is from and then you responding. not walking in and constantly just naming it out as if it's like a child like hey can somebody grab my and the name like insert whatever designer name if you want to or oh no my insert designer name fell off the table like that's what she was doing when you look at i guess probably the best person is tilly because tilly has so many cool bags and cool dresses when she does it yes we want to know what the fuck that is because it looks like a submarine and it has jewels on it it looks incredible tell me everything about this or when that bear cracked i need to know more about that bear. But she didn't say like Gucci bear. She said my bear. She said my bear. And then she talked to it like a child, which you know what?

After a certain price point, you get to talk to that as a child if you want to. But the way that Amanda came in, again, the sentence itself was fine. I just think it kind of summed up who she is. It kind of summed up the whole fucking show and how much of it influx it is. It's, I don't know. Amanda's not the problem. I don't really have a whole lot of energy. She's really not, actually.

She's not the problem. Honestly, Andy is terrible. Beverly Hills reunions. He's part of the problem with this too. It's because he's up Kyle's butt. I know. He really is. And like,

Doreet is the focal point of this season. Yes, Kyle turned it into her own thing, as she always does. But Doreet is still the focal point. Doreet got cut off every time she spoke when Andy just moved on. Kyle was allowed to prattle on for however long about Doret. Nonsense.

Erica went on for 10 to 15 minutes about her new boyfriend. And it's like, okay, that's great. I'm happy that you have a new boyfriend. We didn't see him. We saw him on a FaceTime one time and you talked about them another time. That's not part of the show that.

Like I, and look, I'm fine. The show sucked. The season was awful. So I'm not going to complain and say like, oh, you guys are talking about stuff that didn't happen. Please, by all means, go talk about everything that didn't happen. I'm completely cool with that. It's, it just is frustrating. Like, when I said in the beginning of the episode that this was fine,

the more that we've discussed already, it's like, okay, structurally, yes. Because at least we went from person to person. And Derreet had her package. We did Amanda's package. We had the Rachel Zoe package. I think I mean we went and did things that happened in the show this season. Now, to your point, and it's a very good point, Kyle jumping in on everything Derreet said is ridiculous.

There was one moment where Kyle didn't even jump in. Derreet was making a point. And Andy's like, okay. And just like moved on. I was like, no time out, dude. Like, what the fuck? why are we going to sit here and listen to Kyle ramble on about nothing? Erica's going to talk about a guy we don't know.

Derreet, who was the focal point. Like you said, why on earth are we shooing her? I know she talks a lot. I know she drags on. She didn't even do that. Like she was just talking and it's like, we're done. Moving on to Kyle. Kyle,

what do you think about what Durit said? Oh, you don't like it? Well, I agree with you. Boo, boo, boo, boo. Yeah, I don't get it at all because, again, I mean, this reunion's take. And we know because we're very focused on the summerhouse reunion, most reunions take at least six to eight hours and yeah they have lunch and whatever in between

you can let in a season like this just let Doree talk she will talk for a good four hours she'll talk for 75% of it and it's up to the editors to go in and snip out the stuff that doesn't really matter that's their job not Andy's job like I know you get tired of a Doree prattling on but like what else is there to talk about like you just said we went through three packages of three people

who actually had storylines this season who else is getting a package Do what are we going to do? We're going to get to Sutton. It's going to be here's your package. You might be changing your name. Cool. Oh, yeah, your son went to college.

Cool. That's fantastic. All right. Let's move on. Tilly actually gets a package because she's a friend of. Kathy, come on in. We'll give you a package. We're just going to go back to your daughter's jewelry show, whatever.

Like, it's just, it's a nightmare. It is a nightmare of a setup. And again, they screw us over with this three-part reunion just because they would have milk as much out of this as possible. No one asked for it. There's not enough content to, get us through three, three actual episodes. And based off of this first episode, like you said, we covered pretty much everything.

Like, everything's done. We're good. Like, what are we going to do? You can even throw in like a couple of curveballs, I guess, with, you know, Rachel's marriage and what's going on there. Again, you know, she shared a good amount with us, especially with the kids. But we didn't talk like extensively about her divorce. We didn't really.

Yeah. Like, it took a good, Roger in a better place. We're done. Correct. And we're over. So like, I just don't know where they go from here. and I didn't expect it to be honest. I kind of figured they would hold off on some of the direct Kyle stuff until like episode

two or episode three. I really don't know unless we just get rinse and repeat for the next two episodes. And then we bring in Tilly and Kathy and talk to them for a little bit. And then probably ends with like Kathy and Kyle talking about sister stuff as it always does. So I don't know. It's it's always a head scratcher. I'm just kind of focused on. The end is in sight.

We're there. We're in the tunnel right now. But there is a light at the end of the tunnel. if I die at the end of that tunnel, it's fine because I will not be dealing with Beverly Hills in the afterlife. Oh my God. If I die in congruency with this show, I'll be livid. I'll be so upset.

Yeah, at least give me like a week of bliss afterwards because that's the other problem. So like this weekend, I just kind of binged all the Bravo at like end of the week as we always do. Watching Beverly Hills, it was less of a chore than usual, but it's still a bit of a chore because I don't really care what's going on. Once you get into the other shows and you watch. Rhode Island. You watch Atlanta. You watch Southern Hospitality. You watch Ladies of London. They're all such good shows. Ladies of London not getting a reunion, not really surprised by that. But it is very funny when you line that up. It's like five minutes of ladies of London is better than the entire season of

Beverly Hills. And we have a three-part reunion to deal with. You go through the other shows and you're like, wow, we're in such a great spot. We're going to be in the perfect spot. Summerhouse reunion is going to be airing. All of these other shows are still on. Beverly Hills is dead. We could all just bask. That's what I want. But we still have to deal with Beverly Hills. It's just, it's a nightmare. I guarantee they're going to pick up cameras in like three or four months.

We're going to be in the same spot in like eight months. Yep. Instead of restructuring the show, shuffling things around, trying to figure out a better way forward. We're going to roll out the same exact product again because that's what we've done five years in a row. And they're still getting numbers because people, I figured it out, by the way, casual Bravo watchers, people that watch one or two shows, this is one of them. because they don't know any better.

They don't know that there's better products out there. So they're just like, oh, yeah, I watch Beverly Hills. It's not great. It's probably this. You know what it is? It's this and then they watch below deck because they know below deck and they'll watch whatever. And it's a new season, essentially every season because they have new people.

But yeah, you're totally right. Yep. That's exactly those. Those casuals are ruining it for all of us. That's what's going on. But let's jump around a little bit. You know, we had the Rachel's Zoe package, which again, we're done she and roger in a better place you know she was nervous about coming back on the show

because i guess she was a little bit more contentious back in the day so she was worried that that would repeat itself but no she actually became like a fan favorite she said that the love has been overwhelming and awesome so well deserved i thought she had in a bucket of shit she was a shining star so good yeah yeah it is good for rachel and again i'm still interested in what's going on between her and Roger. And I'm happy that they're in a better place and that Rogers in a better place with the kids because that was very, very much in doubt towards the end of the season. And you don't want to see that.

Yeah, her kids rock. So you definitely don't want to see that. And it's a little unfair. We talked about this throughout the season. We're only getting one side of the story. And it's a little disheartening when you talk about Roger's new girlfriend and how Rachel's just like, I'm never going to be cool with her. It's like, okay, you know, you kind of want, especially in this new day and age,

you do want co-parenting to be cool. You do want that kind of modern family if you're in that situation. It's still be fresh, you know. Yeah, it could, but I don't know. It's just the way that she talks about him. Again, he could be a complete piece of shit, but I'm going to reserve the right to not think that just because we haven't heard anything from him. I have no idea. And we had no idea about the girlfriend.

So it's just a little tough when she gets into that stuff. But again, it seems like things are doing a little bit better. And that's really all we talked about with Rachel for the entire season. Yes, she was involved in trying to kind of get her feet wet and figure out how the group works. and she got kind of caught in the shitstorm of Doreet and Kyle, but there's no way to flourish, especially if you're a new person on the show, but if you're a side character on this show,

there's no room for you to grow in this storyline. Like, it's unfortunate. And Bose, I think, is very cool. We could not care less that she got engaged by the end of the season, and it has nothing to do with her. It's just because we're still forced to be focused on Doreet and Kyle, and it's just a bummer. It really is because we talk about it a lot.

right there's pieces to this show that work there's pieces and and cast members where you're like yeah i enjoy watching them on screen and that might vary from person to person depending on who's watching yeah but regardless like there's people on the show that you can root for and that's why it gets so disheartening because then we get wrangled back in straight to kyle and der reet and it does it gets so old i know you guys are probably tired of hearing us say kyle and d'arrete in this very episode already so i get it it's just there has to to be a better route forward and when you're going through these packages we go through rachel's right and i get that she's still a newbie but when you roll the tape on kyle talking shit you're like oh

what kind of relationship are you setting up with that like you're getting divorced too okay so i don't know where that's coming from and also rachel don't laugh and brush it off like yeah say something to to Kyle. This has been like honestly it pointed to a much more glaring issue. The lack of people jumping in and giving their side to the Kyle and Dorit thing. It's going to happen later when Derreit's going. It's like guys, we're doing that everyone said it again. And you guys didn't. We get a montage of Kyle forcing the issue upon everyone. And yet nobody once again stands up and goes, I didn't say that. You said that. And then you talk to me about it. And now, you're saying that I said that.

Guys, somebody grow a backbone. Somebody get a spine. Somebody call out Kyle and say, can you stop lumping me in with? At the very least, just say that. Please stop lumping me in with you, Kyle. And you can say it nicely. I don't care, but acknowledge it. Somebody, I feel like I'm taking crazy pills.

Well, it's not that you're taking crazy pills. It's also just the fact that we spent 20 minutes on that. We spent 20 minutes on the semantics of talking about whether or not Kyle had discussions with other people. Like that, that's what we were doing. That was the meat and potatoes of this episode. was trying to figure out of the entire season, was trying to figure out if it was a mutual conversation

between Kyle and the other person that she was talking to in that situation, or if Kyle was asking leading questions, we have the footage. And this is where Andy comes in, and this is why he sucks at Beverly Hills reunions, because he never goes against Kyle. Andy needs to step in and be like, dude, we've got footage. Like, let's just roll the tape.

Here's your package, Kyle, by the way, because we're not going to give you a package about your own life because you only show us what you want to show us. So here's the package of, you doing exactly what you're saying, you're not doing. And boom, boom, boom, boom, right down the line, every conversation she has, she starts off with, I'm worried about to read.

And then when somebody says something that's somewhat in response or somewhat in line with what Kyle wants to say, they have a whole tangent discussion about that. And Kyle takes that as, see, I'm not the only one. They were talking about it too. They weren't. You asked them a question. They responded.

That's not them bringing it up out of nowhere like you are. Yes. So somebody say that. Anybody. That's the funny part. Anybody can say it because everybody was talked to by Kyle. So I just don't understand. You know, if we want to take it just like a show standpoint, like make, make TV, do your job. Somebody do your job. Like at the very least, I don't know why she's so untouchable. It's gotten to a point now that I think it's because if you went against her, you're off the show, i.e. Garcel is the only one that would stand up to Kyle.

She's gone on her own volition, but it's almost like she has whittled down this show to people, yes people. It's a bunch of people that are going to agree with Kyle. Who the fuck wants to watch that? I don't know. Apparently the casual, casual always gets away. Those casuals, dude, those plebs, damn plebeians out there. Well, Erica, we go through hers.

And again, we cover this in the intro, but, you know, she's dating, which is great. Like, we love Erica, and I'm glad that she's happy. I'm glad that she's moving forward in her life in some regard. Obviously, she still has a lot of glaring issues on the horizon, the $25 million lawsuits headed to trial. She's got other lawsuits that are still unresolved. So she's not out of the woods yet, but it's nice to see her get her spark back. She had a good season, all things considered. But going through this, it's like, okay, again, talking about her boyfriend, great, good for you.

we know nothing about this man. We know that you're comfortable with him. That's cool. Like, I love that for you, but we don't, we're not invested in this. And then obviously,

I think we will always highlight and give her massive props for opening up about what happened in her previous relationship with the domestic assault and all those things. Like that takes a lot of strength. I'm sure she helped a lot of people.

I know the reactions from the group are very telling, you know, they all are just sad for her. But I think that it takes a lot of strength, a lot of courage and a lot of power to be able to say that on you know with their therapist saying it again at the reunion standing in those i just thought that was such a cool thing but then that's it we got the yeah the boyfriend and like a recap of that and then we're done

with erika for the whole season guys like that's not that's the whole season in five minutes no and that's what it's going to be and again because the way that the season was structured and i don't want to diminish obviously you know what she was sharing because i think that was very powerful and that deserves as much time as possible. Talk about that as much as she's willing to and ask some questions. But yeah, I mean, aside from all those storylines, if you want to call it, that there's nothing really there. So it's just going to be interjections.

Like that's what we're setting up for is just two more full episodes of asking in different ways why Kyle and to read are in odds. And then other people are going to chime in. And look, we didn't hear from certain, like, Sutton didn't say a word. She tried. She actually did get like, she got a sentence in there. but I remember like her fighting to even get a sentence. It was funny because all we were talking about was like Amanda and like her being materialistic.

And Sutton was trying to like drop some advice for her. And it's like, okay, no one really cares what you get to say. But that's what it's going to be. It's really just going to be the rest of them chiming in on what's going on with Kyle Doreen. Again, that's just not a good show. It's not a good cast. We talked about Tom for 10 minutes. Yeah.

What? Whether. Yeah. And like, do we even need to get back into that? Like, what's the point? I know the lawsuit, so like it is, it's pertinent enough. And maybe because I guess my. For 10 minutes.

No, and I guess my sense of the situation, like, I don't think that was planned. I think that was, oh, we've got Erica talking. Like, let's get her going and going and going. And now we can ask the deeper questions about Tom just based off of the one conversation that Sutton and Erica had early in the season about whether or not she wants to get closure from him and see him in prison. And the way she answered, it's like, oh, cool. I'm Andy Cohen. I've got eight questions about Tom that I've been waiting on for about seven years to ask you. I'm going to ask you down and see if you answer.

No, it's just not, I don't know, it's just not viable for furthering any sort of story. No, and I mean, if that's Erica finally having a chance to make peace with some of those things, like,

okay, like I'm cool with that. If she's able to talk about it for the first time, air some stuff out to be able to move on and get some closure, fine. Like, I'm okay with that. But not for the amount of time.

that we did it for. Yeah. Because we're getting into like their marriage. We did this three years ago. We did this two years ago. It was like a rewatch. It's like we're doing a rewatch. Yeah.

That's what it feels like. And it's just crazy that episode one of a reunion, that's what we're doing. We're going back to previous seasons because of the lack of content. That's what it was, by the way. I just clicked. The lack of content for Erica means we have to go back years. because there's nothing else that we can discuss other than to reet and we're going to and we're

probably going to do it with sutton too we're going to talk about her marriage we're going to talk about her marriage with christian and how that went and all of the things that led to where she is now and we're going to spend another 10 minutes on that again we don't need that they're doing it because there's nothing there uh man well let's just uh i don't know let's get to the derit stuff now because it starts to leak in when Erica's talking about her stuff because Doreet saying, well, and this is a terrible defense from Doreet, but she's like, well, I had no idea what was going on. Erica didn't tell me.

I was like, no, no, because of what Erica says, like, this has been going on for seven years. So you know what's going on. It's not done yet. You know I have a $25 million lawsuit. It's all over everything. So no, you don't get to play the. card of she didn't say anything you can play the card of i'm caught up in my own shit and i didn't pay attention and i'm sorry that's fine and i will actually side with you a little bit because no one's

giving you any kind of grace here which is still bizarre to me but yeah no that's a bad defense and then when we get into the whole thing the the great part about it erika's actually trying to move forward she's actually being nice to derrick she's a little standoffish and a little passive aggressive, but she's getting to the root and being like, okay, cool. Like, hey, we're close. I love you and I'm scared for you, but like, we're close. Like that she says that. And Doreet's like, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Movement, progress. And then, of course, because we get one modicum of like a good moment, Kyle jumps in. And she completely changes the entire topic because she jumps in and goes, well, you shouldn't have to tell your friends to give you sympathy. I agree. Oh, God, do I agree. Maybe, maybe, just maybe, Kyle. Look in the mirror.

Are you shitting me with that line? That might be the most ludicrous thing she could have said, because that's been my entire issue all season. Where's the sympathy for Doreet, who's going through something similar to you, but much, much worse? And you're going to say to her, you shouldn't have to tell people to give sympathy to your friends.

That is short-sighted even for Kyle. Like, that's a huge whiff. It just shows you where Kyle is and the fact that she doesn't understand by having the discussions about, even if you say, and we're supposed to believe that you're concerned about Doreen, fine,

we'll live in that world for a second. You're not giving her sympathy by having these discussions behind her back. And I think the behind your back or behind her back is the thing that Kyle stuck on because she thinks that if it's a, quote unquote, comes from a concerning place,

that it's no longer behind your back. It's discussions about how to empower you and make you feel better. But you never got to the point of, okay, now I've got like the full picture. She could have gone this way of saying, I need to talk to like you and I are kind of at odds. We don't really get to see eye to eye, but I'm still worried about you. So I talked to Bose about this. Like if Kyle was trying to spin this and she actually did a good job at it, this is what she would have done.

I talked to Bose, who's very close to you feeling like maybe she's your confidant and you've told her more things that you haven't told anybody else to try to get an idea of where you are so that then I could put things into motion to help you out because you won't let me in. You won't let me get close to you to help you out and give you that sympathy. Nowhere, at any point did this season seem like Kyle was giving her sympathy? Did Kyle say at one point, like, I know she's going through it. She was only saying I know she's going through it when somebody like Bose would be like, yeah, you know, I mean, you know, we've gone through a divorce before. Like I've gone through a divorce before. It's just, it's really tough.

So I understand why she is where she is. Oh, I know. I know. It's concerning. I just want to keep an eye on it. Like, no, at no point did you show any sympathy for grief. it gets worse because as we start to get into Doreet's stuff, the big question is,

Doret, did you check on anybody else? Were you so wrapped up in your own shit that you didn't check on anybody? And no, she didn't really check on anybody for the most part. But I do believe the people she's close to, she still was there to support. And that's when we start going down the line.

Did you check on Kyle? It's like, well, no, you know, Kyle doesn't talk about our life. And Kyle has the balls to say, well, nobody asked what they have for years.

You just don't talk. You don't say anything. about your actual life. So I think at this point, a lot of people just don't ask. But Kyle's like, we're still trying to play the card of,

we all got shit going on. Yeah, we know. Everybody knows everyone's got stuff going on. But some people's stuff is a little bit more volatile than other people's stuff. So for her to go then down the line, it'd be like,

Erica's got stuff going on, Sutton, Bose and her infertile. Are you, don't do that. What are you, you're speaking on. This is when I got really mad at the cast, though, because Bose. Yeah. Say something.

They don't speak. I know. Say anything. Yeah. When she was going down the line, I was, I was even more annoyed for the other aspect because I'm like, okay, but like, we're not talking about that right now. No. This, at no point were we talking about this. Like, the way that reunions work, we just spent 10 minutes on Erica going through stuff.

What did you say during that? Not really anything. Okay. We'll get to Sutton. through stuff. Are you going to say anything during that? Probably not. But now you're going to use it and say she's going through stuff. Like, we'll get to them. We already got to some of those people. We're talking about Doreet right now. So stop trying to deflect. Yeah. And, you know, she's trying to say, everyone knows I'm empathetic. I care about people. And for all intents and purposes,

the Dorete that we've seen for years, like yes, she does care about people. She does ask people about stuff. Does she talk a lot? She does. Does she get self-centered? She does. But she does care. Like, we know that. So it's not like a big mystery. And as she's trying to say that and say, like, if I trust somebody, I like somebody, then yeah, I'm going to ask them how they're doing. Well, what about Italy? Italy was an entirely different ballgame, Andy. And Andy cuts her off. Why are you cutting her off?

Because she's saying stuff that has to do with the only thing that happened this season. Kyle's been rambling about nonsense and nothing and just spinning this web of lies that she does. And she's allowed to continue. but you're going to cut off the star of the show if you want to play it that way because she was the focal point. That makes sense. She was the star of this season. So the only thing I can think of is like they'll get to the Italy stuff. Maybe they have a whole thing planned for episode three where they'll just talk about Italy the whole time.

He usually says that then. I know. Yeah. And he didn't say that. And again, it's just we know how Andy feels about to read. We've seen her all watching it up his live. We've seen her at every reunion. He doesn't like to read.

He always cuts her off. A lot of the times we're okay with him cutting her off. because it doesn't really matter. And she does go on for a long time. But again, if this is the only thing, she's in the first seat. This is the only thing that happened all season. Just let the two of them talk forever. I don't care.

Go edit it later. Exactly. And you'll get something. You'll get something more than what we got. And we get the montage of Kyle, literally putting words in other people's mouths. To every single person she talked to, she leads like we talked about last week. It's a leading question. The person responds.

in kind because they're saying like yeah you know what that is a little bit concerning when you put it that way that's not a cosign that's them understanding actually understanding boz is looking at it through the lens of yeah she's going through a lot of shit i am worried about her because i care about her kyle's trying to find a way that she can get her like oh got you a moment stop it just just stop it's just bad tv the war is over and both sides lost kingdoms were reduced to cinders an armies scattered like bones in the dust. Now the survivors claw to what's left of a broken world, praying the darkness chooses someone else tonight.

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that Doreet's going to say something in regards to PK that's going to damage her in the trial if they have to go to trial. And she doesn't want that for her. Not understanding that the stuff that she is. saying is more damaging than anything Doreet has said this entire season. If you go to court and you have a clip of Doreet talking shit about PK, any judge is going to be like, well, yeah, you guys are getting divorced. Of course, you're not being nice about him.

It's nothing that's going to get her in trouble to the point of like a custody thing or a financial thing. The only thing that's going to do that is if somebody close to Doret is saying publicly, she's erratic. She's spending too much money. I don't know what's going on with her. If you keep hammering that shit home, they're going to be like, hey, are you fit to be a mom? Because your friends, quote unquote, are saying that you're losing your mind and spending too much money that you don't have.

So I don't know. That could hurt her in the court of law. But you're not actually concerned about her. You're trying to have your gotcha moment. So you're just giving all of this information for free on camera on national television about your friend who's going through a very tumultuous divorce from a a melting pile of shit, PK, and you're texting PK. Again, I feel like we're just rehashing things from prior seasons because now we're

talking about Kyle and PK again. It's just, it's so frustrating because they just give us new fucking content for the love of God, but we talked about that. And like, we agreed to a certain extent until we realized what Kyle was going on about. Yeah, this is what happens to reality TV.

If you get divorced and you're now on reality TV talking about the divorce, you're going to say some shit that you probably don't mean or that you don't realize there's going to be ramifications for it happens like there's nothing you can really do about it and if Kyle was going to go about it in a way that made sense like hey you know tone it down a little bit with that kind of talk instead of doing what she did we'd be in a different situation but no she was talking to PK on the side so now she's just doing like the defensive game of like oh no I was talking to keep to PK to like

keep the peace I was trying to figure out where he was coming from like no you weren't So you're just lying about all of your motives and all the things that you've been doing for what, just to get out of this so that you can get one up on Doreet? Like it just doesn't make any sense. I think I clocked it, though, why, especially this season, she's going as hard as she is. That line kept sticking in my head. We got it in the trailer for the reunion multiple times of, oh, she lit that cigarette. She thinks she's cool, whatever. Kyle does not like

that she has been on a downward spiral with the fan base for five seasons. People don't like her, and it's very public knowledge. Doreet has had somewhat of a renaissance over the past couple of years. I know a lot of people still get irritated with her and don't like her.

We love the cigarette thing. I've enjoyed her more so these last two seasons that I have the entire time she's been on the show. The fans think she's cool. At the very least, they think she's funny, whether ironically or not, and they like the cigarette thing.

We like the cigarette thing. It's a fun schick. Is it overplayed? Absolutely. Is that okay? Yeah, it's fine because it's funny. She is jealous.

And so she's making it her mission to try to tear Dorit down because Dorit has landed in a better space with us, the audience, than Kyle has in years, in a decade, maybe. Yeah.

And you know what the funny thing is too? And it's such a glaring issue. If Kyle was actually, open for the first time ever, especially going through her separation with Mo, she would have been at a better place. It would have been one of those situations where it's like, oh, wow, we can almost like write off the last couple of seasons and saying like, yeah, your marriage was in a weird place.

You weren't sharing with us because you wanted to see if you could keep the marriage together. Now you guys are separated. Share with us. She shares with us. She's right back in there. She is right back to a top fan favorite. And instead, she just decided to bury it and not talk about it. Doreet goes through this right away, starts talking about it.

people start flocking to her defense, Kyle doesn't like it. So that makes a ton of sense to me. Yeah, I think that's, that's the root of all of this, is jealousy that we like to read better than Kyle. And she doesn't like that.

Yeah. But I like that to read goes one, but since nobody else is going to speak up that they didn't say this shit, she goes one by one. Amanda, did you go to Kyle? No, she didn't.

Sutton, did you go to Kyle? And Kyle is interrupting every step of the, whoa, whoa, whoa, well, that's not what I'm saying.

I said, I used my own words and I release, related it to my own experience. You know, like how I felt after my separation, tend to get OCD, did I work out too much? This, that she starts naming that weird fucking spiral that she went down during her separation, which guess what?

Derreet was there asking how you were. Yeah. We had flips of that. So she actually did herself a disservice because she was trying to give examples. And it's like, well, yeah, you were going through it. And guess what? Your friends were there.

And everybody in the cast wasn't questioning everything you were doing until the Morgan Wade thing started. Then it got a little wacky. And then they started questioning the working out and all that stuff. But a lot of it was from a place of concern. That's not what you're doing right now at all. And for the love of God, let the people respond. No one had.

Oh, it's so frustrating that nobody is saying like, no, I didn't say that. No, I didn't go to Kyle. No, this whole thing is fabricated. She put words in my mouth. Yeah. It is kind of fucking wild. And it's just, I, I, I think the reason that I hate it so much is because it makes our job so much more difficult

because we're just like, like we're doing what they're doing at the reunion. Like we're just grasping at straws to continue to talk about the same thing that's happened 50 times in the last two seasons. And there's not, there is just truly nothing more to talk about. It's literally just two people, Kyle's refusing to ever get on board. Derreet is just out of place now where she's like,

I know what Kyle's doing, but she's affecting the rest of the cast. So I can't even have conversations with the rest of the cast about my situation because it'll get back to Kyle and then Kyle's going to use that against. So there's nothing I can really do. So it's just kind of we're at a stalemate. And we've been at this stalemate for the last two seasons. And nothing has budged.

Nothing has changed. So when you're going through the season, there's no new content. There's no new things to talk about. We've got little fun stories here and there. But the main goal, the main storyline, is the same shit that we've been talking about for two full seasons. So by the time that we're done, it makes our job a lot harder. Because what the hell are we supposed to talk about? The same thing that we've been talking about for 10 years?

No. Yeah. And that's why I'm sure you guys are sitting there going, wow, you guys keep repeating stuff. Yeah, we don't really know where else to go. That's what we're watching. So that's what we have to talk about. And the only evidence that you need that Kyle doesn't give a fuck that this is all vindictive because she's jealous of the read is the fact that as we go through the spending thing, it's like, you know, I spent $4,000 on a bag. And this, I do think is important information.

It was Rachel's friend's store. And everybody else walked out of there without spending anything. any money. I didn't want to do that. So I dropped $4,000. I bought a bag. I can afford to buy the fucking bag and being judged by you. And for you to go to each woman in the group is not only disrespectful. It's embarrassing. Like you're questioning her financial standing with people that don't even really know her like Amanda. Why are you talking to Amanda about Doreat's finances? That makes no sense to me. And then this is the evidence you need that Kyle doesn't give a fuck because she says to Kyle that was shocking, especially from you implying.

my close, close friend Kyle Richards, why on earth would you air out my laundry like this? Kyle spins it and says, especially for me, well, we're not in the same financial situation. Fuck off. What? How is that any different from what Sutton said to Doreet last year?

It's not. No, it's not. It's actually the same thing. Sutton got absolutely crucified for that comment, which by Kyle. Yeah, when we saw the comment originally in a trailer, we're like, oh, that's kind of fun. Seeing it play out,

you're like, oh, that's stupid. Why would you ever say that? we're doing the same thing to you right now, Kyle, but this is what we know, especially when Kyle gets pushed and she realizes like, oh, shit, I actually have to be myself

and actually respond in a way that I want to. This is when you see the real Kyle. So if you were actually concerned about her finances, why are you bringing your own finances into this? If you're worried about her well-being, why are you bringing your own separation into this? And it's even funny. I love when she brings up her separation

because every time she brings up her separation, it's like a smack to the forehead. Like, oh, dude, you can't use that. that as an example, you can't compare your separation to anything because we don't even know what the hell's going on. You won't let us in. No, you're secretly wishing and hoping that Mo wakes up one day and walks in through your front door and goes, honey, I'm coming home. Not happening. That's not going

to happen. And you would have more support from the audience if you talked about it. But you don't. You put on this facade that everything's okay, the most amicable divorce and the history of all divorce is bullshit because there's not millions of dollars involved. There's billions of dollars involved. And you think when push comes to the shove about the agency that that's going to go smoothly, no fucking shot. I think why nothing's moved forward is because both of them know when they get into it, it's going to be messy as shit.

So they're delaying the inevitable to avoid that for as long as they can. why mo doesn't like confrontation he doesn't like conflict he will ride this separation out till the day he fucking dies bet that Kyle on the other hand takes that as maybe one day we'll get back together no no you both know that it's going to be fucking insane when you go to court or when you go to the arbitrate or whatever it is so you're you're treading water rather than moving forward at least der reed has the balls to file. What about that? Like, at least she has a backbone enough to say, I don't want to be married to this piece of shit anymore. I'm going to the court. You don't even have the, the balls to do

that, but you want to criticize how she's moving? At least she's moving forward, Kyle. You're sitting in this puddle just refusing to open your eyes. Well, I love when they get when they start getting into the finances too and whether or not PK is paying the mortgage. That was one of my favorite aspects of this show too. Because again, Doreet is saying, and I know I'm nitpicking it, and obviously I want to be pro Doreet because I'm so anti-K. But at the end of the day, when Doret is trying to convince us that she's on top of her finances and then drops the bomb that P.K. Did not pay the fucking mortgage for what, six to eight months or something on those lines? She didn't know.

Which is probably more than that. And if she's only letting us know the eight months. It's $842,000 in debt. Yeah. Yeah. And I just, it's just such an interesting situation too, because. Yeah, it's not her finances, but it's the house that she's living in. And she says he hasn't paid the mortgage for eight months, but he says he's going to make good on it.

Okay. When? When's he going to make good on it? Nobody doesn't, somebody doesn't just miss eight months of payments and then say, oh, I'm good. I'll pay, you know, a million dollars in back taxes and just figure the whole thing. No, like that's not how that works. You're still going to be in a world of hurt. We don't really need to.

we should talk more about that, but instead it's like, no, that's just a good example. Let's move on to the next topic. No, we should talk more about that. Deree,

get some fucking help for the love of God. I know you're not, you're not going to get any help around here because Kyle's not going to allow it. Go outside and get some help. Go figure this whole thing out. Because all of the things that she's bringing up, like,

yeah, I have a plan where I'll find a new house for me and the kids when all this is over, but until he pays it up, we can't sell it. We can't put it on the market because it's in pre foreclosure. I'm like, okay, like that still sounds like a bit of a spiral.

It's very bad. And we'll just move on from it right now. It's like, no, I think we should talk more about that. Yeah, for your sake. So you understand the gravity of the situation. I do think it's a little misleading to say $842,000 in debt. I'm assuming that's what's left on the mortgage. Probably.

It's not like, you know, you accrued $842,000 in debt because you didn't pay. I'm sure a lot of there's a. big chunk of that that is, you know, late fees and things like that. But it's a little misleading. I agree with you, though. This is a scary thing here. You know, like it's, it's not good that you don't have a handle on this stuff. Even now. You should have a forensic, what is it, a forensic accountant or something, like look at everything and get you up to the speed. So at least you know, and maybe you do have to declare bankruptcy. I don't know. You wouldn't be the first housewife to do it. But you should know what route you may or may not take at this juncture. It's been long enough.

up and you know who P.K. is. He's a big pile of poop. So protect yourself. Yeah, absolutely. Now, as far as the P.K. drinking thing goes, I, he's not there to discuss his own relationship with alcohol. I don't think it's fair for Doree to discuss it. I'm not going to discuss it. I don't like P.K. at all. But again, like when they get into that stuff, I do agree, you know, to a certain extent, the Moe part of it where, and I didn't, love that it's like well that's what guys do i was like all right settle down uh yeah yeah that was that was very straight i don't even think that that was like a where mo was coming from like of course he's going to say that but he's also not airing pk's dirty laundry he's not on this show we haven't

seen them so it's not really fair to dig into all of that because this the first time we're bringing it up now is talking about it at the reunion it's like okay yeah i mean what did you think mo was going to say like yeah pk's out and getting drunk all the time like he's even if he was he's not going to say that so why are we spending so much time trying to figure out of Mo's telling the truth or if he's just trying to back up his friends like it gets us nowhere i have no idea and you know the the line from amanda again amanda's not the issue at all we get through the line of like outsourcing your financial well-being and you know Erica thought it was about her actually which is funny i don't know she just wasn't

paying attention to the show is quite clearly about to read but whatever but it rubbed a lot of people the wrong way i'm glad that they spoke up but i'm also pissed off because you have all of this energy for Amanda, all of you. You guys go on a tirade right now, which is warranted. She needs to know this stuff so she can hopefully clean it up. I do believe she's coming back next season. So you can clean up some of the rookie mistakes that she made. And as we know, she came into this whole thing saying, like, yeah, I thought that's what

we did in this show. So she had a lot to learn. I'm not saying she's good. She was awful, but she's not the problem. And she can come back. I have no issue with Amanda coming back next season, actually. No, I don't know. You know what's very funny too is the reason that I don't have any problem with Amanda coming back next season is finding out that Bose also offers courses teaching women how to like ask for raises and she doesn't do a good job.

That's very fucking funny to me. I actually want to do more with that. I want Amanda versus Bose now in a very weird way because I now I'm going to go back and look at all the things and be like, yeah, Bose was making some great points about how every time that you talk about your business, you just defend it immediately, which is like, I think it comes with the. territory. I do think it's a very quirky. Like it's a source of revenue for her that has worked out incredibly. Her fucking line, which has a stream of revenue, I should have said, which worked out incredibly for her. Like great for her.

Maybe some of it's fake. Maybe it's not who the whole cares. But Bose going into it and going in on it the whole season is very funny, knowing that she also offers courses in the same context. And it's losing money. That is. And it's losing money. And that honestly is probably a piece of what Amanda does.

she probably does sit with people and say, hey, do you want to make more at your job? Okay, let's go through some ideas of how to do that. A portion of it, a portion of it is probably writing down in the manifesting journal. A portion of it is probably hold this crystal for about 10 minutes and just wish it, want it, do it. Like the Brian Griffin book from Family Guy.

Oh, yeah. But, yeah, I do think that she probably does have a piece in there that is actually useful information that might work out. I don't think so. those having that same shit and it not working is very funny because that makes her look at Amanda in a weirdly different way and it probably rubs her the wrong way. And now Amanda's figured that out. I want to see the two of them clash. I do too because it raised flags for me.

Not so much that she's losing money on her course, this, that, whatever. The fact that she lied again. I lied about the mask thing, which is kind of whatever. But now we have another moment where she's like, I didn't say that. I'm like, oh, that's weird. Do you do this? You know what? The mask thing.

is not whatever because we had to endorse so much bullshit. I said it was whatever until she lied again. It was correct. But even at the time, you know damn well she remembers making that comment. And because she didn't cop to it right away, we had to deal with shit in Italy for about a half an episode, maybe longer. So I won't forgive her for that. That's a very good point, actually.

But I liked the line of questioning and the statements made to Amanda, where it's like, hey, you know, don't do this. Hey, don't do that. like these are all things that rubbed us all the wrong way we bring up her poor cuck husband where it's like you know do you think that this is emasculating she's like he told me it wasn't i was like oh yeah sure did you have you did you just take the ball gag out of his mouth for him to talk or hey we don't king shame here i'm not king shaming just say he definitely had a ball gag in his mouth and probably a dog leish on but i thought that was actually funny that interaction because she's like no no

and i'm like he definitely thought emasculated the only time he did is when i said like i make more than him in a month than he does in a year. I'm like, uh-huh, and all of the other ones, too. And I do like the way that the other ladies went about it was good because it was constructive at saying like, hey, next year, like come in like this. Don't come in like that. But again, all I could really think about is how you guys have all of this energy for a newbie that is inconsequential to the show right now.

But Kyle, you have nothing. not one iota of energy for kyle but all of this for skamanda like what are we doing here and then it gets to the bow's thing and that's just weird now because i'm like boz why are you lying why do you care you know like let's say you don't mind that your class is losing money fine i don't care maybe you don't but the way that you go on to describe things i think you do care I think it really pisses you off that she's successful in this avenue and you're not. And now I have questions like, how often do you lie? How often do you, quote, unquote, forget what you said because this is a recurring theme now.

Yeah, now we have to go back and look at all of those things. And that's what I immediately did. I went back and I started thinking about all the things that she was saying to Amanda, specifically with her courses, getting down to it in Italy and talking about how she's part of a cult. She started her whole new cult, which I guess we'll really get into in the next episode I'm still trying to piece together what the fuck we're going to talk about for two more episodes. But yeah, we'll probably get the cult will probably start off in episode two. But yeah, I mean, all of those comments that Bose made along the way without us knowing that she also offered a course that was failing while Amanda was thriving, again, supposedly thriving.

Yeah, I mean, all of those things and rubbing Bose the wrong way, the fact that she said and had to mention like, oh, yeah, I paid for the house. I paid, like, we're paying for the renovations, but I paid for the house that has to. to be important to say. Everybody took offense to that and you go around the room and that's when Sutton tries to interject. And she's like, look, hey, like everybody knows my situation. I don't think that if Christian said, you know, I raise all or I make all the money and I'm, what does she say? The breadmaker. I think she said. Yeah, the breadmaker. I'm the breadmaker. While I'm sitting over here with a baby like, okay, I'm just right here. Like, I don't really think that you get what she's saying. I think that this is a little bit different because I do think, yes, Amanda is a very,

very abrasive person and she's going to talk about her making money all the time. But that's her whole fucking persona. That's her entire image. So of course, she's going to do that. Once you get over that, which is a very big hurdle to get over the beginning of learning who somebody is, she's not like, she doesn't talk about it that much. She doesn't do it that much. She just kind of wanted you guys to know where she was. And I do think that where she's coming from is more of like, I'm empowering myself by telling you guys like hey I'm the one who makes the money everyone's like oh we don't need to know that that's not like rachel we don't we don't need to know that we don't have to talk about that i'm like yeah i guess but i don't think it's that big of a fucking deal to be honest i mean who cares

it's not that big of a deal that irritates the absolute shit out of me uh i know that you're you get over those things a little easier than i do but to your point i will say like regardless of my thoughts and feelings on it it should not be the focal point of a show it's should be like one off and like then when it happens in the future make a little joke and then let's move on that didn't happen they all got stuck on amanda which you can actually give her credit for she did come in and stir things up a little bit you know and i know we're backpedaling a little bit on her but this is what happens when you get through a full season you look back to the big picture it's like okay well what was good what was bad nothing was good everything was bad what was

tolerable ago yeah we said that weeks ago that without amanda activating is what the person on Twitter said. Without Amanda, getting people involved, there would be even less to talk about. We wouldn't have shit to talk about. Exactly. And, you know, the one thing that we can hope for that she really does need to remedy

is just, you know, the millennial victim bullshit. Like, I don't want to do that anymore. That tries to be nuts. But they check her on it. Like, I appreciate this constructive conversation. Are they taking some digs? Yeah. But all in all, they're not trying to be rude.

She just needs to think about what she says more because then she questions whether or not Rachel shows people how to make money. It's like Rachel's the number one stylist in Hollywood. I think that she is inspiring and teaching people how to make money via just her career. So like that's belittal. Like don't do that. She just needs to stay in her lane. And I think she'll be fine. She gets too defensive.

Yeah. I'm okay with you getting defensive. It's just that when she gets defensive, the points that she makes are just not good. And they're completely out of left field. So that's the type of shit that she has to clean up. Yeah, I agree. And watching Kyle Defender is just nauseating. Again, not because of Amanda, just because Kyle is like, why?

It's just so fake and forced. And I don't like it. And it's literally because to Reed and Amanda don't get along. So you're piling onto Amanda's team. But that's it, guys. Like, that's it. That's the episode. And I know that was like kind of clunky.

We tried to get through the best we could. But when you look at it, you know, pull yourself back and look at the picture here. That's the whole season in this episode, except for the cult. Yeah, I think that our listeners are probably going to think the same thing. Yeah, first up here from MTV Miranda. Need Kyle off the show.

She's ruining it. Thanks for braving the storm, this terrible show. You're welcome. Absolutely. Ooh, but don'tka, Doc. Who cares about Beverly Hills? Thoughts on Michelle from the Valley and Dr. Dre as an item.

I still don't believe it. I still doesn't believe it. They're holding hands going into no-bo and steals. Like, I don't know. AI. Yep, I knew you were going to say AI. Yeah, I mean, we'll talk about it more when we cover the Valley on Thursday, but I'm excited. I love it.

Look, if it's real, I'm all in. I think it's fucking awesome, but I just, I need more confirmation. Jay Bay the Hut, 713. Why is this a three-part or not an email? We don't know. Yeah, we have no idea. from Dilla de Nira. What's the Venn diagram of Bravo fans and Beverly Hills fans?

I feel Bravo fans hate this show now. That's what we said in the beginning of the episode. Yes, absolutely. The casuals, the people who don't consider themselves Bravo fans are the ones who are running these numbers up. They're ruining it. Yeah, Rachel Nicholas. I'm just going to read all the ones that are reiterating this point.

What are they going to talk about in the next two parts? More of Kyle and Derreet bullshit? Yes. Yeah. Yep. From Sands filters, who's meaner or insufferable between Erica or Doreet during their personal crisis? Erica is incredibly, Kyle, yeah. I was going to say, Erica is incredibly meaner.

Let's not forget how she was dealing with all of that. But again, to that point, Kyle. Yep. Do you forget how fucking vicious Erica was during all that? Where's the smoke for her? But Doreet's done. one-tenth of that and she's a monster. That's a good point because the next question is from Von Nez.

Is Kyle scared of Eric? Yeah, is Kyle scared of Erica? Calling out to Reed spending, but not Erica's on the glam squad. Yes, she is probably a little scared of Erica. Yeah, maybe a little bit. I think it's more just any ammo she can get against Derreet. She's going to use. And I can see her being a little scared over.

I think she definitely, maybe not scared of Erica, but she definitely looks at Derreet as. a weaker opponent. Yes, which the, the opponent thing is very funny to me. Like, why are you looking at her

as an opponent at all? I'll save that one for the end. You got any other ones on here? From Amy B. 526, blow the whole thing up. It was such a pathetic showing. Yeah. Blow it up.

Yeah, go for yours at the end. All right. We'll end it on this one from HealthGotter. I don't like Kyle or Doreet. I hope both teams lose. That's completely fine. I appreciate it. Oh, man.

Guys, you know, the good thing is we're about to recap Rhode Island. It'll be a much more lively discussion than this was. But look, this is par for the course. We've just got to suffer through a couple more. Thank you for all of you listening to us and not watching. I know the majority of you are not watching the show anymore. You're just listening to us, which thank you for the support always. But it's tough.

This is a really tough one. This might be the hardest one we've had to cover as far as memories. We do have goldfish memories with this, though. I know for a fact. Yeah, maybe this is the top. No, the 24 episode season was the worst. That was two or three years ago. Yeah, and we still reference that.

So there's definitely some unresolved feelings. Yeah, maybe you should go to therapy. But, yep. Oh, boy. That's all I got. You got anything else? Nope, all good here. Let's go talk about Rhode Island and have some fun.

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