Bros & Shows - RHOC Reunion Finale: Alexis and Johnny J FLOP (RHOC Reunion Pt. 3 Full Recap)

Episode Date: November 26, 2024

What's up Bros? We made it to the last RHOC episode. And we are sad that its over... But part 3 of the reunion delivered. It's all about Alexis, John and Shannon and we get to hear more of the nonsense from Alexis and John that we've heard all season. Alexis attempts to answer questions we've all had all season. Why didn't John take the offer from Shannon? Why did he refuse to sign a non-disparagement clause? We are even graced with Johnny J confessionals again (which we absolutely did not need). It's clear to us that John didnt sign the non-disparagement so he could have this moment at the end of the season. He believes if he speaks on his own behalf we won't all think that he's a huge d-bag. It didn't work. He is still a huge d-bag. Emily joins in on Shannon's defense and Alexis has seemingly lost all support from the rest of the cast. Jen and Katie are still friends with her but even they question her motives with Shannon and John. At the end of the day, Shannon tears Alexis apart and comes out of this whole debacle on top. Alexis on the other hand, should not be asked to come back to the show after bringing absolutely nothing except being John's failed mouthpiece. She claims to have reciepts for the $350k that Johnny J spent on Shannon during their relationship, but we have yet to see anything, and on top of that what Alexis and Johnny J don't seem to understand is... we don't care. No one things John's a good guy, Alexis stinks on ice and it's time for them both to kick rocks. In a strange turn of events, it appears that Tamra and Shannon make up at the end of the reunion. We get a post reunion scene where Tamra and Heather come clean that Johnny J told them months ago that he hear Shannon crash her car. Which was a huge question mark during the season, and something they could've offered Shannon clarity on. They think this looks good coming clean, but it actually makes them look way worse for sitting on that info for so long... But we had a fantastic season to watch, a great reunion and despite who your favs and least fav's are, this cast showed up to work and gave us a great season of RHOC. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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finish off some topics tie a bow on some things turned into there's so much shit there's i was pausing rewinding i was taking so many goddamn notes it took me and plus it was extended because they have that extra scene at the end which wasn't necessary yeah right we'll talk about that right now okay fine we can talk about the fact that this made heather and tamar look significantly worse not better this wasn't like the scene of like look we didn't know what to with it you guys sat on the fact that johnny jay heard the crash and didn't go help her for months a half of a year because you didn't know what to do with it but you brought it out now even after the reunion you're bad friends you're bad people this could not this did not require

cameras getting picked up for that no at no all could have easily just been the classic black and white white text on a black screen just tell us what happens a couple of days after filming the the reunion this happened okay thank you we don't need a whole fucking song and dance for this they're getting to a point now where they're just picking up cameras for everything we don't need it it was so unnecessary you were worried about that the first time they did it way back you're like I hope this doesn't become a recurring thing it is now this scene wasn't necessary and again all it did was paint Tamara and Heather in an even worse light which they got away with it because Shannon's like I'm surrounded by so much love right now which is great glad you're feeling

that way, but they just told you they withheld pretty substantial information from you for a long time. I think that was a storyline for the entire goddamn season. Yeah. Could have been wrapped up. You could have felt a lot better and had confirmation of, oh, wow, he did hear me. He is a huge piece of shit, but instead

your two, quote, unquote, friends withheld this information because they were, quote, unquote, unsure what to do with it. That doesn't make any sense. While they were out to dinner with them. Yeah. Yes. Sure. Yeah. What? Like, fuck that. Fuck that whole thing. I don't like it. I thought it was stupid. No need. for a 36 hours later thing, but whatever.

I'm glad we did that. To go to therapy at that point, by the way. I, thank you. Like, God damn it. God damn it. I'm glad we got this out of the way now. Taber going to therapy is just like Ashley and Michael on Potomac actually finalizing their divorce.

Getting their divorce. Next week. It's always next week. It's always next week. But now that we've wrapped that up, let's get into this episode because it is a lot. We got a lot to talk about. And it starts out where we left off last week with Shannon and Alexis. They're still going out of your TV star, that whole thing.

Alexis's approach, and it can be summed up fairly simply, is that she's dumb. Yep, she's not smart. And what she's doing, she contradicts herself constantly. She will put out information that immediately say something that goes against what she just said. Such as you're obsessed with us. You're the one pushing the Johnny J shit constantly. No one else wants to talk about it. No one else likes this guy.

You've decided to be his mouthpiece for whatever reason because he's probably got you thinking that you need to be. He's manipulated you to the point that you want to go speak on his behalf. But you're the one forcing this down our throat. You're the one constantly reminding Shannon about it. You bring it up time and time again. So she starts it out with this. And that sets the stage for everything else that they get into the entire time.

and I'm so glad that Gina has had a great reunion and she had a solid end of the season as well. She had a weird season. I was entertaining to watch because she just couldn't find her footing, but in a good way. But she came through in the reunion because she brings up a great point. She's like, there's always, and this is from a dinner scene previously. She's like, there's always somebody protecting this guy. Somebody's always going to bat for Johnny Jay. And it's usually a manipulated woman who's saying how good he is. And that's what I always say to people when it comes to stuff like this if you constantly have to say things like you just don't know him he's probably a piece of shit yep yeah it's very simple to put that and i think that

gina may have actually and a lot of the best way to explain jena and what she does on this show is stumbling into things that is pretty much what she does she may have stumbled into what her role is supposed to be because nobody else on this cast is stepping up as a voice of reason we thought that Maybe we had that with Heather Debrough. She obviously went over to Tamara. That immediately negates your position. And also, she's usually too good for everybody else anyway, so she can't be that person. No one else is really stepping up.

Emily tries to do it here and now. But she is way too, like, stuck in her own way and vindictive about things that happens that we don't even really know about or we're not privy to. And she's always trying to get some sort of retribution for some reason. Gina could be that person. There were multiple times throughout all three parts where Shannon, Tamara, even Emily, looked over at Gina and said something, and Gina, what she put together was complete logic. We need somebody on all of these shows that can be the logical person that isn't biased, that can just say, hey, yeah, no, that makes sense. That's what Gina can do. And a lot of times

when you're talking about Joddy J and Alexis, all you really have to say is, yeah, no, that's fucking bad shit crazy. That makes no sense. That dude is insane and he's manipulating you. Okay. Thanks, Gina. That's all you have to say, but I'm glad she pointed that part out. And I'm glad that we do break this whole thing down very pragmatically because Alexis's whole thing is like you keep attacking him you attack him all the time and he's the one that points out last year Shannon was up on the stage defending john ad nauseum she she's in the same spot that you're in now and you're too stuck in your own ways you're too stuck to johnny jay to see that you could actually take some some notes here and be like oh shit this all seems kind of familiar to shannon

maybe I should be careful about my next steps. But no, she doesn't have any foresight. She's incapable of breaking the situation down and applying it to her own. But Shannon, this was such a good approach on her part, I thought, because she's like, all right, how did I attack him? Because all I've said is that I've paid for everything. And yeah, she's called him a monster and said some things like that. But I don't feel like that's attacking people because I feel like everyone disparages everybody on these shows. so let's talk about tangible things she said i paid for everything for which i have receipts

the counter to that is there's another lie and all he's doing is defending himself emily butt out which i was so glad that she decided to take a shot at the couch because i knew that they were going to turn on her because they already have been last episode so that was a great moment because i'm like oh you just bit off way more than you can chew you can't handle what's about to come your way but she's like we did some forensic accounting he spent three $350,000 on you throughout your relationship. Okay, fine. Let's buy this.

All right, let's take Johnny Jay and Alexis Blino at their word. Where's the receipts? Where's the receipts? Because if you showed Andy on the show and it got cut, which happens a lot, we get, we get warnings about receipts and reunions and they don't come to fruition because they usually don't land. Anytime you see a manila folder come out, they tend to not have the info in there that you're hoping for.

but she went on Instagram and made that super long post it was like six paragraphs long of and she's claiming bad at it now which is the new thing to do everyone claims bad at it Tamara was claiming bad at it the other day as well Ammarie was claiming bad at it she's still to this day

isn't that crazy? Anne Marie who's been out of the spotlight for so long is still claiming bad at it like just go away you're done but she's claiming bad at it and she's claiming I have the proof this could all be very simple for you Alexis If you are telling the truth, post it.

That's it. And we'll shut the fuck up. If you're right, I'll even say it out loud. I'll say, up, she was right. She has the receipts. Just post them. Stop giving us cryptic messages on Instagram that aren't that cryptic because you're very black and white.

You don't know subtlety. Because we got something else, what was it, a week ago, two weeks ago. She's like, my truth hasn't been told. I'm going to do an Instagram live to tell my truth. It was like six weeks ago at this point. Hasn't happened. Like, she still hasn't done it. She keeps talking about the truth coming out.

She's like Karen with her DUI at the truth. is going to prevail what truth what are you talking about it's never going to we're ready we also and i can't stress this a month enough a month a month a month i can't stress this a month yeah two episodes um yeah we we don't give a fuck this is a relationship if everybody in a relationship starts adding things up and keeping track of things that they're spending that would be insane we understand how relationships work sometimes if you make more than your partner or your partner makes more than you, they're going to spend a little bit more on you because they're doing things together. That is what being in love is supposed to be like.

You're not thinking about the cost effectiveness of this. So nobody gives a shit. It doesn't matter. What Shannon is doing on the other side is just saying, well, you want 75 for me because you claim that was a loan. Let me put together the things that I spent on you. And maybe we can make this all go away. If I can get 75, like I assume this is how Shannon's brain is working. If I can get $75,000 worth of stuff that I bought you, maybe we can make it go away and that'll be the end of it. Instead, we now have Alexis sitting there saying, well, let me just do everything here. We've got forensics accountants. How much did that cost?

That's a waste of money. $75,000. Yeah, seriously, that's what it is. It's a waste of fucking money. Nobody gives a shit. And you're not suing her for that money. So it's a mute point. Nobody cares.

let's just fucking move forward and everything out of Alexis's mouth is just horseshit it's just dumb bullshit that nobody gives a shit about and that's all she's been doing all season i'm surprised that it took so long for the right side of the couch to even figure that out but finally they're fed up and emily fucking hates her heather's you know whatever tamer tamers over tamers over tamer at a very weird dare i say good reunion because she didn't fucking talk aside from her and janin she didn't do anything else so we'll give credit where credits do we always do good reunions yeah her sitting there and talking to andy like in between scenes where he's like do you see what happens when you just sit and listen like you understand things yeah yeah there and that's

the funniest part about housewives was like even for tamra and we hate tamara everyone knows that's no secret sorry Ryan there's always a road back and this shows you that like there is a way back and we have said at the very least she was a nightmare to deal with all season she produced good TV it went too far time sure but she's here for a reason we've always given her credit there do i see us ever coming around to be team tamara absolutely not i don't know that's going to happen never but there's always a way back is my point but they bring up the 75,000 dollars again and and he's like why not just take the offer and this is the question i've wanted answered for the whole season why didn't you just say yes to this and it's about the

non-disparagement clause, but we don't get to that yet. Her first sticking point was, well, she offered $15,000 over three years or four, whatever the payment plan was. It's like, okay, would you have gotten your money? Is there an interest rate? Maybe you end up making a little bit more money. Like, what's your point? This seems like a, if this is in fact a loan, then the standard for a loan is a payment

plan. So that's not damning evidence. She didn't offer him $15,000, period. she often 15 grand a year. He's making $15,000 for doing nothing but being a fucking asshole and putting her up against the wall. It's either you pay me.

It's blackmail and it's fucking extortion. He's putting her up against his wall and saying either pay me or pay the legal fees. It's a lose, lose for her. So she offered a way out. He said no because of the fucking non-disparagement thing. And Tamara brings up, well, if it was a loan or you say it wasn't a loan,

why are you paying him back? because of the fucking legal fees. That's going to cost way more. It's not worth it. Just pay this man and let him go away. And that was the funniest thing. And I won't drag Tamer for this because she did say, oh, okay, got it. And didn't get into it more because she was also one of the people during the season that was like, just pay it, be done with it.

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Bador with the lemons. And then that needs to be nine lemons in the bowl at all time. That's clearly a dig. He's wearing the Farragamo shoes for the engagement photo. That's clearly a choice. There's no way that John Jansen put on his Farragamos that Shannon bought for him and didn't realize it. And if he didn't, he definitely looked at the picture and went, oh shit, those are the same

shoes. Fuck yeah. Let's post this. You guys were calculated in everything you were doing and you weren't doing yourself any favors. You say that your goal was not to be vindictive. Your goal was just to fall in love with this guy and sail off into the sunset and Shannon was throwing a wrench into this whole thing. But that makes no

sense based upon your actions and how you've acted this entire season and it can be stuff that's as petty as posting lemons as posting a pair of shoes and i didn't even think about i was so caught up and just john jansen's an asshole and alexis sucks that i didn't think further into it of the fact that shannon did have a relationship with this guy for five years it was it's a serious relationship and what alexis is doing in speaking on their relationship and what they did or did not have them being Shannon and John is minimizing this entire thing. She's had no time to mourn the loss of this relationship,

which it's a good thing in the end, Shannon. You're away from this fucking guy. Yeah, he's occupied. Forces you to get over it a lot faster. Definitely. So it probably is all for the best, but the same time, you're not giving any credit to the fact that they were very seriously together for a very long amount of time.

But to further that point of they're just throwing stones wherever they can is regardless of what Shannon says. It doesn't matter if she's got evidence to it. It doesn't matter if it's a reasonable point. It doesn't matter if it has nothing to do with like John and Alexis specifically. It can just be about the overall bullshit going on. No matter what comes out of her mouth, Alexis's response every single time is you're a liar. You're a liar.

You're a liar. You're a liar. At some point, she's going to speak the truth. Maybe. Just maybe. Johnny Jay has pulled the wool over your eyes and you're not seeing this whole thing clearly because you're not intelligent. And everything Shannon's saying is true. But you are in this fucked up relationship with this fucked up dude.

And now you can't see through the bullshit. Not that I think she could anyway. Because again, not the brightest bulb. But that's all I'm getting. All I'm getting is her being defensive because everything Shannon's pointing out. I believe Shannon. I believe Shannon. I believe Shannon.

Shannon went through a five-year relationship with him. The telltale sign here about of Alexis of what she thinks of Shannon is her attacking Shannon's vision of what the relationship was. They were together five years. You've been together for a hot fucking minute. You do not get to diminish what she had to go through and say, well, was it even like a really real relationship? Because it's not what we have.

It was fucking more than what you have. They were together for a longer period of time. I'm sure they talked about getting married. I'm sure there were other steps thrown in there. But it was so toxic that they were never able to get through any of that. we have so much video evidence of this over the years and I'm sure Alexis was watching the show because she's fucking obsessed with reality TV

and she wishes that she was on it she knows what happened she's just downplaying all of it and saying that at the end of the day I won because I got your boyfriend that's what she said in the first episode that's still her sentiment now and we're all looking at you like a fucking

loser because you're stuck with him because you chose to be with him because you're fighting his battles and being his mouthpiece on this reunion set And yeah, I know we do get clips of his fucking confessional, which is disgusting. I, that I fucking despise. I probably even did that. But still, this is where you are.

This is where you have been the whole season. You're obsessed. You are absolutely obsessed with Shannon and her idea of what that relationship was and you're happy that you got him and you think that you won. So everything that you're doing is just mouth service to that. And we don't care. We just do not care. We know that you're a loser.

We know that he's a piece of shit. and you furthering this just completely confirms all of our suspicions that you're an idiot that got stuck in this and you're going to be in fucking hell for the next couple of years too because it's going to happen to you too. Yeah.

That's the best way to put it is just watching this whole thing transpire the lack of any kind of compassion for what happened, even if you hate Shannon to not recognize like, oh, she was in a serious relationship with this guy for a while. And you minimize it by saying things

like they were friends with benefits when the timeline doesn't happen. up which it doesn't add up because we get to that stupid ass johnny j confessional and he's like look i was single for a year before i met alexis and shannon's face is her jaw dropped she's like what the hell because we can go through the timeline if you want to because that happened they broke up in november i guess and then they got back together april of the following year so that's 2023 is when they got together and it ended 10 days after the DUI which if we remember correctly and Shannon points it out Johnny Jay took care of her post DUI they were still involved they broke up

10 days after the fact which lines up the timeline with you guys met or started this thing two months after not a year after so immediately John shows you who he is and the way that he's talking in the confessional is so clearly scripted he wrote this shit down verbatim and it really stands out later with his comments i'll save it for then but this guy came in here with an agenda he's like here's my chance this is why i didn't sign that non-disparagement clause was so that i could save these moments for a confessional at the end of the season and stand up for myself but you immediately discredit yourself because you lied instantly and we have the fucking proof why people on these shows choose to lie when we see it, not like see it through the grapevine or hear it from

somebody. We literally watch. We watch these fucking shows religiously, so we know the timeline. Just cop to it. Just say, yeah, we got together shortly thereafter. I know how it looks. It looks like I'm clamoring to get back in the spotlight because I'm a huge douchebag that needs attention and deny that part of it. But don't deny the timeline because that doesn't make any goddamn sense. And it just further points to the fact that you're both big pieces of shit. It further proves that you want the non-disparagement because you knew you, it's not that you were worried that Shannon was going to talk about it the entire fucking season. She's not going to. That is what a non-disparagement contract is.

Of course she's not going to because legally she's not allowed to. And by the way, we've talked about this all season. If Alexis wasn't there, aside from the first two episodes of, oh, yeah, did you see that Alexis is dating Johnny Jay? yeah I saw that we wouldn't talk about it because Shannon had enough going on so yes you throw in a legal thing She's definitely not going to talk about it. It's because you dumbasses wanted to make this a storyline and it fell flat on its face as soon as she came out of the fucking door She had all of these prepared signs and all these little things that she was going to say to Shannon and try to get the audience to go and she's going to team up with Tamara and all that bullshit It didn't fucking work. It was awful the best parts of the season were the season or were the episodes that Alexis wasn't there in London

have to deal with that. London was good because it faced everybody to talk about all the other things that are going on in the season. We don't have to worry about Alexis because she's not fucking there and we don't want to talk about it because you're annoying. You're the worst. You're irrelevant. Yeah. You are absolutely

irrelevant and you are as Emily points out the dumbest fucking girl I've ever met. That's what Emily says because she calls Emily Tweedled D and Tweedled dumb and she's like, whoa, whoa. And we can say that Emily's had a bad showing yeah and look at the end of the day i will probably still root for emily down the road because i i've always liked emily but you can't call her dumb she's not dumb she's by no means

dumb and the funniest part is she's like i have a degree and alex's like well i also have a degree do you know how many fucking idiots i know that graduated from college yep there's a lotina said too there's a lot like i think we all know people that graduated with a degree and you're like I don't know how you got there, but he's like Tommy Boy. You know, a lot of people go to college for seven years.

College is that hard. It's just expensive. Yes. You pay for a piece of paper. Again, don't know what my associate's degree is in, everybody. I majored in baseball.

Sports. Sports. But you start to see the couch turn on her. And you get a little side comments and Tamara announces, we're just socially friends. She's now at the point with Alexis where, yeah,

like if I'm in public, I talk to her, but other than that, It's not much deeper. To further our point, Alexis, I mean, this is the best part. No one has to do anything. Just let Alexis keep going and stop interjecting. And she has to go to Andy.

Can you tell them to stop picking on me? You got to deal with it. This is what reunions are. And by the way, this isn't even that bad. We've seen much worse. So you can grin and bear it. You put yourself in this position. Now you've got to reap the benefits or lack thereof.

But she's trying to get some defense. Tamara's turning on you. Emily's clearly out, but she's been out for a while, and she keeps digging this hole of shit that we do not care about. You bring up the trainer again. No one fucking cares. Shannon does not care that you stole her trainer and went to a different gym. What that tells me is that trainer probably got fired or something weird happened because

you kept bringing up Shannon and it got conflict of interesty and you bounced and he bounced too. That's all that is. And again, Shannon doesn't give a fuck. no one there gives a fuck none of us at home are going oh shit you got her there yeah you got her trainer it wasn't that deep like no one gives a shit i forgot about the trainer thing until she brought it up because it was a role of it nobody gave a shit it's not a sticking point none of it is everything that alexis has been trying to do is not a sticking point and her being dumb is just her

convincing herself that these are huge bombs that everybody's going to react to and nobody did nobody cared we just wanted you off of our screen we wanted to just get back to what actually mattered because we knew what you were doing right away and you bringing up the trainer you bringing up all the money you bringing up the relationships like it's just fucking pointless like we don't care and you know that you're going to get fired too you have that about you we saw that when they were going to london and you weren't invited and then you got all upset and you had katie and jen come over and you kicked them out of your house which was the only good thing that you did the entire season because it was still fucking fake and it was still fucking fake but otherwise

that's all you did and that's all you could do because you had a one fucking you had one thing to do the entire time and you deservedly got fired everybody's reporting out there that Alexis is gone so she should be you didn't do enough to garner anything no you would think a TV star a reality TV star who's been on 15 fucking shows for 15 years would know how to do something you didn't

you didn't learn anything the shows do her no favors either because all it does is lead to more questions of Because somebody from the audience asks a question that Andy reads. Andy Reid? Different Andy Reid. Andy Reid. That's a verb. Not Andy Reid.

I hate the Chiefs, but I'll always love Andy. Big Red. Yeah, big Red. But they bring up, you have a pattern of making men your identity. And it goes back to Jim Bellino when she used to call him her king. And she fucking like props the guy up for not changing a, uh, poopy diaper in his life which by the way any dad out there that's i don't do the diapers go fuck yourself okay it's a different generation us dads these days we care we change poopy diapers

we want to be involved i hate those dads it's not a sticking point it's not oh good for me so that's already out of the gate i'm like you're stupid and then she goes to the below deck thing where she's making out with her fiancee at the time and it's like so love balmy and girls like thanks for getting us here i love you so much and he's barely giving her the time of day and Everyone that's watched that episode, all they comment on is how cringy it was. And here you are with Johnny Jay doing the same thing. The crazier thing is Johnny Jay is saying the same shit to you that he said to Shannon. Every time that she makes a remark of like when he's in his confessional saying,

if we can get through this, we can get through anything regarding like the negative attention. Jan's like he said the same fucking thing to me. Guarantee he did. He's got a script and he plays from a script every single time. But again, we get very specific and very objective. about this whole thing, which is I really like the route that they took because how is Shannon ruining John's reputation? Let's get into that. List how she's doing it because we would all love to know. And she's like by, you know, the loan thing and claiming that it wasn't alone and her

paying for things. Period. Yep. But she's got proof. That's her truth. And she has receipts to back it up. What do you have? That wouldn't be ruining his name if you didn't put him into the fucking spotlight. If he stayed out of the spotlight as he claimed that he wanted to do for all those years, nothing would be affecting him. He would just be dating Alexis. We would comment on how weird and incessuous of the entire OC cast has been over the years. And we would laugh about it and then move on with our lives. We wouldn't think about Johnny Jay. We wouldn't be talking about him. Instead, you throw him back into the spotlight because that's where he wants to be. And all of these answers are just more and more bullshit. It doesn't matter. It's not that there's alone. It's not that there's

things that she paid for that he paid for whatever it's because he's an asshole that is what it is that's all it is that's all it's ever been he's a huge asshole that we find out more about that he doesn't support the women that he's with he's fucking awful and he's toxic as hell he's only all hate him and if he just went away we wouldn't think about him anymore it's as simple as that that's all it is Shannon's not doing anything vindictive to ruin his name she wouldn't talk about herself yeah i i mean i've asked this question all season long. Why did you come on the show, John?

The only person that has defamed your name is yourself and your girlfriend. No one else has had to do anything. They just need to let you talk. Every time you guys talk, you dig this whole deeper and deeper. You've got the easiest job in the world. Just fucking vanish off the face of the earth

and no one would talk about you anymore. But you wanted to do this. Now you're dealing with the fall. out. And you're putting it on Shannon, who everybody in the audience, 95% of the audience is rallied behind her. So you lost. And now of all times, don't go on confessionals to end the season so you can say your piece because it's not landing. It's not working. We don't believe you, especially when your mouthpiece is Alexis Bellino. What a bad move. The whole thing is so stupid but the fact that she can't hear some of this again and apply it and listen right

shows you john's telling her one thing and she believes him but it's not the truth and this goes to the company he sold a sliver of his company he was the largest and she keeps interjecting when shannon's shannon knows more about john than you do she was with him for five fucking years all right she knows more they were more intimate she understands more she's seen behind the scenes okay She says, John sold a sliver of his company. Alexis Interjection goes, he was the largest owner. She's like, Jesus Christ, no, he wasn't. This just proves he don't know anything.

Everyone else got $55 million and he got $5. That's a substantial difference. You know how much different $5 million is from $55 million? How much? 50 more. That's a lot of millions. Like, that's like, it's so much fucking money. Thanks for that breakdown.

You're welcome. have here. But seriously, that's so significantly different and shows you how much less of a stake he had in this company. But I guarantee you, John told her, I'm the majority owner. And I just sold a little

piece. And she heard that and goes, my man's rich. He owns these big companies. Do you think it's a matter of her just immediately blindly agreeing and just assuming that he's telling her the truth? Or do you think that she's in the same space that Shannon was during that relationship where she's scared to question him.

Right now, I think it's, I think it's blind faith, but it'll turn. And I think that, yeah, but again, you know, the difference between Shannon and Alexis is Shannon's intelligent. Like, she was 100% looking the other way and trying to rationalize. Yeah. Or I feel like Alexis is blind faith because she's like, he wouldn't lie to me like that. Even though you're seeing a mirror image of your relationship across the room that got out. And look what happened upon her getting out.

Look at the fallout that surrounds her because of this relationship. And yes, of course, her own doing with the DUI, I'm not going to take away from that. Like, that was her fault. Right. But look what happened. And she's giving you info. She's telling you that's a fucking lie, Alexis.

I know for a fact how much she got. I was there. And Alexis is like, no, uh, dude, she's trying. She's trying to give you some warnings. They may be veiled in insult. but she's trying to let you know, like, hey, you're getting fucked here. And yet you're going to point the finger at me and blame all of your shortcomings and all of the woes on old Shannon Bador.

But meanwhile, you and Johnny J are your own worst enemies. But it gets back to the loan. And again, this was so hard for me to take notes on. I know, because we kept going back to the loan. Yeah, they kept going back to the loan. We get to the loan. And it begs the question of, okay, well, he did present you with whatever the note is. The loan turns, yeah.

Whatever. And this is the one part where Emily, all right, put on your lawyer hat for a second. Let's get a lawyer here with this old thing. She's like, no, you can't retroactively give somebody a notice of the loan. Like, that doesn't work that way. You gave her the money. And then you're like, oh, shit, I need to cover my own ass. And you tried to retroactively give this notice that doesn't work.

Again, don't necessarily need a lawyer to explain that to me. But this is the one time where her lawyer had, I'm like, okay, you can put that hat on for now. I'll listen. If you're going after Alexis, I'll listen to you be a lawyer. That moment it works. But we cut to John. Don't know why.

I'm with you. Didn't need to see John. Didn't need the confessionals. I thought it's fucking like six of them. Again, it goes back to what we were talking about early in the season where it's like, why do we keep doing this to Shannon who's trying to get through a really difficult time in her life?

She's literally about to break Gina's hand as these things are airing. Yep. She's that uncomfortable. and yet we keep putting her through it. But I will say at the end of the day, I'm glad she was able to get through it because all this did was further hammer nails in Alexis and John's coffin.

Like it did them no favor. Shannon comes out looking much better. I love the idea that they thought that this was just going to like get their story out and it's going to make John look like a good guy. Somebody's got to be able to tell my story. And this came about probably because Alexis was doing such a terrible job all season speaking for him.

And he's like, you know what? I don't like the way that this is going. I need to get in there. Contact Bravo. So get your support person over here. We need to film a confessional where I'm going to be here. And I'm going to wear my Farragamos. I'm going to have my big ass cross.

And I'm going to explain my side of the story. Well, John, you look even worse, buddy, because we already hate you. Now you're popping up on our screen. We didn't have a disclaimer in the beginning of the episode saying that he was going to pop up. I don't know how many times we'd ask for that. Hopefully never again, because I don't want to see him again. He pops up and tells the story from his side, from his point of view, thinking this is going to shed some light. It's going to provide some clarity to the audience that is clamoring for this.

We want this to go away. You claim you want this to go away. Why are you on screen? Why are you talking about it? She's disparaging my name. I need to get ahead of this. No, dude, you're an asshole. Go away.

This is making you look so much worse because Alexis is sitting there uncomfortably agreeing with you, not getting a word in edgewise, which we watched all season. Alexis talks nonstop, and she will not shut up about Johnny Jay. She will not shut up about whatever the fuck she wants to talk about. She will interject into conversations that have nothing to do with her and make sure that you know what she's thinking. But here, she's quiet. We saw her own watch what happens live. We know what kind of guy you are just based off of body language.

We already know what kind of guy you are based off of your relationship with Shannon. So you doing this does not fucking further your point. It doesn't make you look like a good guy. It makes you look worse. How did you not see that? You seem like you're very calculated for better or worse. How do you not understand that this is going to make you look so much, worse for these fucking interviews.

Because he is self-important. He believes that he's above certain things, and people like that lose sight of the fact that this could turn out poorly. In his mind, he knows what he's doing, and it's not going to come out. If I have a chance to speak on my own behalf, it'll clear things up. But again, if you go to a confessional with a script, we are trained, trained eyes in the Bravo sphere. I couldn't think of anything else.

trained detectives, if you will. Sure. We can spot this shit from a mile away. We know when things are overproduced. We know when things are pre-planned. We know when you write things down. And the way that he delivered it, what he said specifically, he 100% practiced this in the mirror. And he goes, she came to me in her time of need.

I said to her, I know how volatile our relationship is. even if you come to hate me you have to pay me back and with tears in her eyes she said I know John fuck you fuck you fuck you seriously

what are you doing did you read this off a teleprompter did you have a producer hold up a cue card for you so that you could deliver this dramatic scene it's the same exact thing that we watched Alexis do

when she kicked out Jen and Katie or the there's the door Shannon Bador you idiots clearly sit at home every night and you have nothing to talk about because neither of you have any substance in your life and you think about how you can get over on Shannon, how you can blackmail her out of $75,000 and you come up with quippy things to say for your confessions to vindicate yourselves and all you do is dig deeper dig deeper you clearly wrote this down

this does not land this is not what you said to her this is not how it went down could that's the thing that's so fucking funny is if they presented it in a different way you could convinced me that this was alone. Like, it's not that far-fetched to believe that it was given to her with the idea that she would pay him back. But because they're so clumsy and how they go about it, I don't believe it for a second. I believe that he gave her the money and then was like, fuck, she's not going to pay me back and tried to dial it back in.

And she was like, thanks, dude. That's what I believe happened for you to then give this sob story and literally describe the scene with tears in her eyes. I will, John. Fuck you. It's so bad. And I'm so happy if she gets fired. I don't need this shit anymore.

It's taking years off my life. I found gray hairs the other day, like way more than I've had. I'm blaming that on John. John's giving me grays. And I fucking hate that for myself. Yeah, but you know what, though? A touch of gray, it shows not only are you youthful with your energy, but you've got the experience that the others don't. So, you know, I like that.

And also, I'm not afraid of salt and pepper steel. I think salt and pepper steel is going to be a good look. Yeah. I get a couple of my beard now and again. I get one right here Yeah it comes in and then I Boop Bucket Because it gets longer than the other ones

I wouldn't pluck it I don't care That might just be like something else Oh god what Should I web Should I web MD it? So it tells me I have like Some crazy disease I've ever heard of?

Some sort of like mutation You might want to just start checking for superpowers I will jump off my roof later I'll let you know what goes I was just going to suggest that Yeah jump off your roof see what happens Yeah I'll let you know If I call you from the hospital, just, you know, show up.

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to talk about. This doesn't help them at all either because we bring up the offer once again and the NDC I'm calling it, the non-disparagement clause and this is where she gives the whole argument of, well, he didn't want to sign it during the season.

She was still filming. She could say what she wants and he wouldn't be able to defend himself. It's like, no, thank you, lawyer, Emily, once again. That's not how this works. If you sign it before the season, she can't talk about it during the season. Even Andy got this one. It's not fucking, my eight-year-old could get that. Like, that's not a rocket science.

She's a lot smart. She's really smart. She's way smarter than we are. Yeah. Like, let's be real. But, like, a normal eight-year-old could get that. Like, it's not that far-fetched. understandably so you sign this thing

you can't talk shit great then we wouldn't have to talk about John the entire season which again it wasn't a good storyline there was a lot of good shit to talk about this season that was not one of the things it was actually more of a thorn in my side's like here we go again I gotta talk about fucking Johnny Jay here I go again make another TikTok and me shitting on this guy

and don't get me wrong we like to shit on people and it's fun for us to shit on the dudes on these shows because so many of them are so deplorable but it does reach a point where it's like Jesus Christ we're doing this again we've talked about this same thing, I don't know, five times this episode, and here we are again, because it happens every scene. And Alexis

is like, offer it again, we'll sign it. It's like, no, no, no. Absolutely not. Now you want to sign it because you're getting less money. You're getting 60K now. Instead of 75K because you fucked around and found out. And if you had this is the best part to me because John's always, he keeps saying

if this went to court, we would win. If that's true, John, you would take it to court. Yep. If you think you would win more money, you would go to court because you don't care, you want the money. That's all this is about. So don't say that because we've yet to see receipts. I've seen Shannon's receipts. Granted, they were scribbled down on a notepad, but there's still receipts. And I do believe that she doesn't know how to use Excel. So that is her best option. He's not going to type it on a word document either

because it gets all messed up when you try to add things in. Oh, yeah. I know. You're sure do columns on there. Yeah, I know. That's a nightmare. So yeah, this seems like the most realistic approach for Shannon but every time you bring this up and then by bringing up it will offer it again it's like you sound like you're guilty of something yeah you sound like you're trying to fuck around and now you're finding out he wouldn't be doing this he's not doing this because he wants Shannon to suffer he's not doing this he's doing this because he needs the money he only got five people that there's two days of the statute of limitations two days before filming by the statute of limitations is like seven years from what I

understand so two days that's so and it happens to coincide with when filming is beginning sure get the fuck out of here bro like nobody believes this shit it's all too specific it's all too mishmash like you you just keep saying things and because you both have discredited yourself so many times no i don't believe the statute of limitations is about to run out and if you have proof again we are not the dudes that are going to discredit real proof. If we are presented with something, we will change our opinion and we'll say, I hate the fucking guy, but there was two days left. So he decided to do this. It's still a shady move, but whatever. Show the proof. You keep claiming there's this proof. Where is it posted on your

story? Where's the page? Where's the pudding? Where's the pudding? Okay, I need my snack pack. Yeah, yeah, baby. We need our snack packs and we've yet to get them. You can stay home and help me shave my armpits. let's get to the videos because that was a big sticking point this season these potential videos that show Shannon potentially nearly running over one of John's daughters which yes damning but also when we're talking about the grand scheme of the DUI it does paint a pretty fucked up picture I'm not going to lie about that but does it change what happened that night no because she's paying for it right so all this does is further affect her road now if you show the

videos i would imagine what we hear at the end of it where gina again i like how she's speaking she's like if that came out you would take accountability and that's from my heads out where it's like look she's owned up to everything she's done she's admitted it was terrible admit it was scary a minute it was stupid she went to her lawyer and said i don't want to take this deal where it gets stricken from my record, all we can do is assume based on what we're presented with, what we've been presented with is a Shannon that is taking accountability, despite what John says in his confession, where she's not taking any accountability. These videos don't further anything.

It just furthers the fact that that was a really fucked up night and she made some really stupid decisions. She drove drunk, who was standing in the way doesn't change what happened. Had she run over your daughter, she'd be paying for that. But we find out based on what. Heather and Tamara give us at the end of it, he didn't nearly run it over because we heard the car crash, okay, John, here's the car crash, starts to go after, says his daughter stepped in and goes, no, no, no. When the daughter ran out, she was already pulling away. So another lie once

again, and not only a lie, but holy shit, you're going to claim that she nearly drunkenly drove over your daughter, potentially ending a life. And the counter to that is Tamara and they're saying she watched her she was already pulling off like that is so wildly different and so gross and so fucked up for him to then say if you want to see a monster you can watch the videos and for alexis to say if she's going to watch it i have to be in the room why and then also now double down and say that those videos were never going to come out because they're not like then why were they brought up in the first place if you're going to tell us that they're not going to come out because they're too bad and they're too damning for her

and we didn't want that to happen i don't understand where you are like we say this all the time stand pat pick a fucking side if you're going to be an asshole and you're going to threaten to release those videos then don't then say i never planned on those videos coming out because they're too damning and i don't want to ruin that for her what are you talking about dude you fucking had alexis threaten these goddamn videos multiple times all season to the point where she's telling all the other women in the group and then it gets back to shannon shannon has a full breakdown about it because she has to relive her worst night of her life you're going to keep doing that but now you're going to tell us that you never planned on them coming out talking about their existence is bad

enough how do you not get that how do you not understand that it's a threat within itself even if you don't want to use it and weaponize it as a threat it's still a threat that they're there because now what she has to walk on eggshells and hope that you don't have a bad day and release those fucking videos to TMZ like that is what's going to happen that's what happens when you talk about their existence. So you're still, again, not a good guy. Stop trying to tell us that you're a good guy. You shouldn't have even said that they fucking exist. I don't

care if they're from a ring camera. I don't care if your daughter was filming something. No matter what it was, you just fucking bury them if you don't want them to come out. Don't fucking bring them up. Don't have Alexis bring them up. It's very simple. And Alexis wants to claim that was never the plan. I wasn't supposed to bring them up. But that indicates

that there's a plan, which is fucking annoying as itself, yeah. There was a plan one. Two, if you never thought about bringing them up we saw you do it in multiple scenes from different days yep so it's not like it was a one-off where you got all caught up in the moment like all these videos it's like no this was multiple scenes across episodes where you brought the videos up so that doesn't like they just constantly get caught in lies and then they want us to believe all their bullshit with no proof yeah again show us the pudding if you got pudding give me a snack pack yeah yeah

chocolate and the worst possible defense the worst possible defense when talking about the scenes where she brings up the videos i didn't know as being filmed that's stupid there's a camera there even if it's in the car what's the box on your back with the cord going to the microphone on the front of your shirt that's a fucking microphone you got miced up you're a tv star how do you not think that there's a camera there. You've been on TV for 15 years, Alexis. You should know there's a camera there for her to play that card. I didn't know we were being filmed.

I thought I was just talking to friends. You're talking to castmates with a microphone on and a camera present. What are you doing? Even if one of the newbies made that claim on anything, we would still call it out and say that's the dumb shit I've ever heard. You saying it after being on this show for years, being on other reality TV shows, you know how this works. Don't do that.

Don't act like we're stupid. We know you're stupid. but don't bring us down to your trenches. We don't want to be there. We don't belong there. We're not, you know, me and Shooter might be idiots, but we're not stupid. Yeah. Well, we get to post Alexis, finally.

Finally. And she's waiting in a dumpster to get picked up, as Emily points out. And, you know, as they say, every trash can needs a lid. And it looks like Johnny Jay found his. Couldn't agree more. Well said. But Emily, who took a lot of strides forward. takes a few steps back for me

because she brings Jen back into the picture and she's like well you claim to not subscribe the mean girl behavior but you're friends with Alexis that's fair how she brought it up I didn't think was the best way to bring it up it's fair in challenging that relationship to a certain extent

like hey she's the meanest girl of the mall but you want to attack Tamara and it is similar behavior so I get it and she's not wrong I thought her approach could have been a little bit better, maybe, and that could be biased because she just had a tough woman, Emily, yeah, Jen, Jen, Jen,'s explanation wasn't great. No, Jen flopped really hard on this for me.

I didn't really have a problem with Emily bringing this up, honestly, because I did think that it was within the same realm of things that we were already discussing. If Tamara brought it up, maybe it's a bias because she's just had a tough reunion. She did, yeah. Look, it's very helpful that there's different parts of the reunion because I have a very short memory. And yeah, I do think that overall, she didn't have a good reunion. Those first two episodes were pretty rough. She came back a lot in this episode. So maybe that's where I was looking at it from. Okay. I'll come from there. Yeah. But again, I think what it comes down to

is, and this isn't the right way to go about it, but Alexis was going after Shannon. Tamara was going after Jen. So Jen was defending herself, but then going back after Tamara. You need to be aware that if you're going to sit there and say, I hate the way that she was going after you, Shannon, then you shouldn't be going to dinner with her. You shouldn't be with Katie. Katie didn't really speak up much in this moment either. But, you know, Katie just got eviscerated for like an hour,

so I don't really blame her for that. But yeah, I think the Jen flopped pretty hard on this because you could tell that she wasn't making the connection. Like, how are these two things the same? And it's like, no, if you're going to go after Tamara, you should be going away from Alexis. You shouldn't be standing by Alexis during this. Yeah, you don't have to actively.

Because you're challenging her behind closed doors. Sure. doesn't do the same thing and you could look you can take the approach of you know she didn't do anything to me and i wanted to see like what else she was talking about when they go out with john to see where that was going but like she's not going to do that because jen's still going to tell the truth i just think that she didn't make that connection so she was very confused and she looked very confused and it came across that way so yeah it was a pretty big flop for me whereas katie when she was presented with certain things she's like you know i i understood why john didn't sign the

non-disparagement clause and emily's like well you realize that would be at the beginning of the season nobody could talk about she's like that's a good point that's a good point and then she just stops talking so like she yeah she will take things in in stride like all right yeah yep yep zip it and i'm just going to sit here but yeah i agree with that may like again maybe my bias was showing because it was a tough reunion for uh-huh and like yeah if you're going to go after tamer like that Alexis was much worse sure you and you and katie are paling around with her going to dinner with her and john which is weird and like you're asking john questions where you're like i see i'm doing my job and sticking up for shannon it's like what happened after that conversation did you

guys have a good time and cheers and like have a fun night because that's not the same thing as challenging him but that's pretty much it other than you know a little weary little wary little wary. A little wary of what happens at the end because Tamara sees an opportunity. And look, we said in the beginning, there's a road back for everybody. And Tamara claims that she saw herself this season, claims to have not liked what she saw, claims to be going to therapy. I will give her this. Okay. I don't think that Shannon should jump back into this friendship. I really don't. I think it's a bad move. I think this is what Tamara does. But here, and this is, this is for you too, Ryan.

I will hold out on my reservations until next season. I'll give her that. Yeah. I'll see what happens before I start to shit on. That's fine.

Until I see how it breaks down, I will hold off on judgment until next season. Unless something comes out in the media. And I'm like, okay, see, he told you so. It's going to. I am not,

whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. I am not hopeful. Does the media, Is their podcast count as the media? Oh, absolutely. Okay. Are she the media? Something stupid.

I mean, we have been quoted in things. I don't like that tie, though. No, that's not. I think the media's full of shit. We're full of shit, pal. That's true. Yeah, we are idiots. We already did, though, the 36 hours later, so we don't have to do that again.

But, yeah, I'm sad to see it all go, honestly. It was a great season. They had not one. clunker they did it they put together a perfect scene what was it 18 episodes 18 plus 3 no I think it was I thought it was no 20 no I think it was 20 to put it into perspective 18 plus 3 is 21 dude my bad I yeah I know I watch this on Saturday night wow that's a fun that's a good Saturday night yeah I had a nice relaxing got some dinner and then sat down and watched it but Dinner and Housewives is a lovely night.

I was looking forward to it, and I'm sad to see it go. I am too. I am too. They did it. I was not optimistic. Just because it had been so many good episodes, I was like, there's no way part three, and we don't even like three-part reunions, and each one landed. I'll tell you right now, though, Salt Lake needs three parts right now.

Oh, absolutely. Potomac needs three parts. No, I think Potomac only needs two parts. honest it depends on how crazy this we're only like seven episodes into that season so who knows that's a good point that's a really good point so look we can keep doing this but uh let's get to some questions and hear what you guys have to say we'll answer we'll do a good amount yeah we'll try to get to everybody i'm sure there's going to be some duplicate questions here uh this is actually a good point from from lem vibes are we the fans idiots yes we are uh we rode for shannon all season

only for her to hug it out with Tamara. Yeah, that one left a bad taste in my mouth. Look, again, we did say Tamara for Tamara had a very good reunion in the sense that she really didn't interject herself and she didn't talk too much and she didn't do that annoying thing where she just starts screaming when she's defending herself. I just hate that Shannon went through all of that

and all it took was Tamara to just say a couple of things during the John videos. She didn't even say anything. She just looked at her. It was just, I could tell by the look that you guys, like, oh, man, Shannon, sorry, but you need a spine, girl. I don't know. To build on that from Liz Scarbs, Tamara and Shannon making up real or really a stretch. I do think it was a real real.

Yeah. But it could be a stretch in the long run. From Ryan Stoneman 83, are you boys ready to put some respect on Tamara's name? Absolutely not. I said I would hold out judgment. That's not respect. I still think she's down, Ryan. I still think she sucks.

Ooh, this is fun. Rank some of the bro's least favorite bravman. Johnny J. Lenny Hockstein, J.T., Louis, Sandoval, and Todd. Wow. I need to pull that up because I need to read that list again. Okay. Johnny J. is, how are we ranking? Is power ranking number one, the worst or the best?

The worst. Okay. The Johnny J. is number one. I'm going to go, honestly, almost exactly in that order, but I'm going to flip-flop. I'm going to go Johnny Jay, Lenny, Louis, Sandoval, J.T. Todd. Okay. J.T., I know just annoys me. He's a bit of a piece of shit, but in the realm of all of these guys, he's not as big of a piece of shit as Johnny J. or Lenny or Louis.

I can challenge you on that. There's a clip that came out where he's, uh, he's, he's, get into it with with miss patricia oh he's going after pat well i didn't see that yet so i'm i'm working with what i have that's fair but yeah it's not a don't don't you you leave her alone motherfucker yeah you miserable little man uh i'm gonna go johnny jay lennie louie jt sand of all Todd. All right. And this is also

reasons he buys. You just, I know. You just feel bad that Schwartz and Sandys is closing. That's why you weren't that harsh on Sanctawall.

But hey, if you want to have birthday parties or holiday parties, get anything, come on over. You want to have a lizard funeral.

Yeah, well, that was Schwartz, obviously. I guess he's moved on to lizards. Oh, is that the progression?

It goes bugs, plants, lizards? I guess. Jesus Christ. From Eliz Vaughn 57 well they ask Katie back I think she deserves a season too yeah yeah I think she'll be back

uh yeah I imagine that she would be back uh from I'm just being frank how did Gina's dress not right up I don't know I have no idea how am I supposed to know about yeah I don't know is Alexis a TV star no is Tamara genuine no

probably not I just like the three part of the question yeah that's fun hmm let's do two more uh from it's the riles did john refuse the non-disparagement because he wanted confessional interviews yeah i think that was i think it was a reaction to the season not going how they thought it was going to go and that's him stepping in saying i need confessional so that i don't think that was a pre-plan but it ended up being planned unfolded yeah from our from our boy, Billy, big deals.

Alexis, smarter than we give her credit, feels like she's salt burning John and Shannon. Billy, look, man. Salt burning as a verb is wild. Salt burning is a crazy verb. And secondly, if you're falling for that, I question what big deals you're signing. No, no, she is not smarter than we give her credit.

She didn't know what she was saying. She's spinning a big pretzel up there because she's going on what John told her, and she's also incapable of applying current situations to her logic. Like if she actually listened to Shannon, then responded in turn, it would have done her some favors. But instead, she constantly contradicted herself. She literally, I forgot to bring this up, she literally at one point says that Shannon is trying to bring the videos into it. No, dude, you are.

You brought the videos into it. So no, she's not. I'm sorry, but she's simply not that smart at all. And the last one here. from oh that's a tough name to say oh man i wish we had a different one for the last one but it's a good point keckles keckles kekles kue e c c l-e s maybe what's your name quackles there's no oh is it a cue with with the silent you quackles quackles quackle quin quic okay her name is quinn q e cue eckles

maybe it's that is that's it that's what we're going with i get stuck on things from kekles no question i just really hope we never have to see alexis again i'm pretty sure that's everybody i have yet to hear of an alexis fan if you're out there please let us know and we will tell you to stop listening to us because don't yeah yeah actually don't tell us or do tell us and we'll tell you to go away you know what don't tell anyone it's like you on instagram it's like people that don't like dogs like don't tell people that yeah don't tell people that yeah no don't tell people you're an alexus fan but uh yeah that wraps us up here for rosy for the season and we're looking forward to next season i'm curious when they'll pick up cameras i would imagine not that long from now

just because it was a great year um probably when is uh jen's wedding oh supposedly they're not doing like a big huge thing but i'm sure they'll probably still film it so uh and then alexis's wedding not that we give a shit is sometime of the next 12 months. Fuck, she's back. She's definitely back because they're going to film that. You think they'll dull wedding us? I hope not.

I just changed everything. No, I don't think she's back. You can't tell me people are going to tune in to watch John Janssen's wedding to Alexis Blino. You can't tell me that people are going to watch that. They'll do a little Bravo special for it that I will not watch. I hate all of that. All of those things suck.

Anyway, until next season. Oh, we were the brah bros. We were the brah bros. That was bros and shows. It does feel weird. It feels different. It's going to take some time. We're not changing just this second, but yeah.

Bros and shows out of here. Bros and shows. Got to get me my bro. Oh, we got a new theme song, at least. Hell yeah. Yeah, well, yeah, there we go. We have to sing it. We'll get Ashley Darby to sing it.

Fuck yeah. Actually, no, we won't. We won't because. What do you mean? People will tune out immediately if they hear her singing it. That's mean. That's fair. It's fair.

Yeah. Fair, but mean. It's not even her show right now. We're not even talking about Potomac. Anyway, bye. Yeah, she's still caught a straight. Bro, bros are out here. Bros and shows.

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