Bros & Shows - RHOM Reunion Pt 2 (Spoiler Alert: Larsa's still awful)

Episode Date: March 6, 2024

What's up Bros? It is the day of our live show and we are pumped. But first things first, we had part 2 of the RHOM Reunion, and it delivered as well! That's two good reunion episodes in a row. In this episode, they discuss some of Lisa's behavior this season and how her and Julia got into it regarding motherhood. Guerdy and Alexia point out that Lisa, while she did have a lot going on this year, made it about material things more often than not... We get to Nicole, and as a commenter points out, Nicole may not be as innocent as she seems. When it comes to the Ana nonsense, she may have known more than she's letting on. Larsa continues to be insufferable as Guerdy and her finally broach the topic of Larsa's reaction to Guerdy's cancer diagnosis. Instead of apologizing, Larsa claims she already apologized to her. Insanity. Utter insanity. We. can't make any sense of Larsa nor do we care to. But Miami CONTINUES to deliver as at has all season! Time Stamps: RHOM- 7:06 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Hi, I'm Karma. And yes, I am a bitch. Brov Bros. Good evening, everybody, and welcome back to another episode of Brov Bros. Your favorite podcast from the Bros. For everybody, for whoever wants to listen. I am your co-host, Steele Russell, joined as always by the one and only scoots

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Yeah, today's the day, but we wanted to make sure that we stopped in quick. Did a little Miami Part 2 breakdown. Yep. Give the people what they want. Miami's been great. Everybody's watching. Everybody's responding very well to Miami, so we got to get our input out there. I agree.

And, you know, a lot of people are asking, where's the ROM recap? Don't worry. We're getting to everything. I know it's a little backed up. It doesn't matter what we do. It's just there's always a what happened to this and what happened to that? We're fucking getting there, right? Trying, man.

But no, we want to give Rahm the respect it deserves. It's been a great season. Episode one of the reunion was great. Episode two was solid. We don't usually have back-to-back good ones, so I'm thrilled. This one was way more of what I expected in episode one. The over-screaming each other day. Yeah, people just yelling over.

And then Andy gets involved and they started asking him questions. It was a cluster fuck for a lot of it, but we still got a lot of good points out of it. That's the thing. There was a lot of cluster fuck moments. They were able to reel it in at times to give us some solid scenes, some solid input, that's a solid up. I mean, the fact that Andy could reel it in a little bit and keep us on track,

it was a good episode. I'm not used to two good ones. And the lead into episode three, because we really haven't gotten into Gertie and Larson, we've dipped the toe in, but we haven't gotten into it. And that was the most captivating thing of the season, at least for me, because it's so dumbfounding that a human being could

make it about them when their friend has cancer. We saw a glimpse of it at the end of this episode. So we're geared up for a solid episode three, if they can give us a three-parter that lands on all three parts, at least above average, that's huge. And it's another cry to the audience from us. I don't understand why more people don't watch this show. I do not understand why their ratings aren't higher. I think the ratings are fine as far as Housewife shows outside of Beverly Hills

go. You just can't... No, it's lower than the other ones. I'm telling you. That doesn't, it doesn't track. I don't get it. Yeah, that doesn't really make any sense, because this was wildly entertaining, especially when you match it up against things like Potomac, Atlanta last season. Salt Lake was really good this season, but that was another one where people were a little pessimistic about it, and rightfully so after season three. But this has been a really good watch. It's been entertaining. We haven't had one point during the season where we said, okay, let's just get to the end of this. We've had the reunions, but never bad. And lulls are going to happen. I mean, at some point in time, you're going to get a little tired or whatever might have happened. So this has been pretty

consistently good all season so people do need to watch it yes you do and sure do if you're listening to this on wednesday morning we may not have tickets left we might have a couple left so go ahead and get a ticket to the show tonight it's always really weird when we record the day i know i have to speak like it's the day of but the show's tonight at 730 if you're in philly or in the northeast in general and you can make it to philly by 730 get yourself a ticket come hang out with the bros if there's any left i think there was like 10 to 15 last time i counted i think there's one table left of four so if you want to bring some peeps there's not a lot of places where you can sit next to each other there's one table left grab that table but get those tickets asap also we have our show in

dc at the union stage tickets are selling well for that but it's a bigger venue we need the bros to come out and support their bros i'm calling out to we are your calling out to the bros this is a call out to all of our bros out there. And bro is all-encompassing. It's an all-encompassing word. It's genderless. We'll call it a BSA, a bro-service now. A bro-blik service announcement. Oh, Broblik's a bad word. I do not care for that. It's a bro-service announcement. Let's stay with yours. Wait, hold on, Broblick? Yeah, like public. Oh, Jesus, Christ. Yeah, no, yeah, stick with mine. I don't like mine. Just call it a BSA. Yeah, it's a BSA. This is a BSA. We need your support. I want to fill

that room. I want to pack D.C. So please come out and support us in D.C. May 3rd Union stage. And the last one is June 14th, Friday night, Boston, City Winery. That fucking thing is already sold out, basically. It's not actually, but it's

very close. Really, just go get your ticket now. Yes. Because it's getting to the point where I know that there were people that reached out to us and said, well, you know, I can't make D.C. I'm going to get up to Boston. You might not be able to go to either. No. So figure it out. Get your Boston tickets now. Oh, tough tough love.

Tough love. Look, this has to happen. You've got to figure it out now. If you don't, you're going to be lost. You're not going to be standing outside, hoping that you could hear in. You're going to have one of those glasses to the wall. Like, you're going to pick up a cup, put it against the wall, and try to hear what we're saying. You're going to hear people laughing, and you're going to get really sad.

Yeah, that's the scenario that everyone envisions. Yeah. You outside with a cup on the wall of the city winery trying to hear in and you can't. With the strongest fomo possible. Yep. Massive fomo. Really sad. Mo-mo.

That's going to be you if you don't get your ticket right now. So go get your tickets. The link is in the bio. After today, the links will be in the bio for Boston and D.C. I wanted to make sure it was just the Philly show since it's coming up so soon. But tomorrow, shit, today, this is impossible. It's not that impossible, dude. Today.

Be little my experience. Don't tell me my truth. Don't you tell me my truth. But regardless, the links will be in the bio today. Now, we have business to discuss now that we got that out of. the way, because we have part two of the ROM reunion, and let's just jump right in. I don't have much of a preamble. So, uh, you ready?

You get no preamble? You save it up for tomorrow? Today, yeah, fuck. That happened so quickly, too. How did that feel? Not good. Not good. Not good.

Feel good. Good. I just want to sit in a person. Karma what? Karma sandwich. Ew. What's wrong with a karma sandwich? Sounds gross.

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tonight anyway let's get into it we start out with Larson Alexia, and they're still arguing in the dressing room. And the funniest thing here is, and I told Shooter before the show, before we started recording this, I'm not going to get all amped up on Marcia today. I'm not letting her get under my skin again. I'm not. I will not raise my voice today.

I'm staying calm, cool, and I will. I hope so. That'd be a lot of fun. I've got to save my voice for tonight. Oh, this is so confusing. Keep doing it. Yeah, no, stop. But Larsa is standing by the fact that I don't lie.

I don't lie. You said to the group, Alexia, that everyone in here's a liar. Like, that really hurts me. It's like, nobody else took offense to this except for you. We have video footage of you lying throughout the entire season, throughout last season. Like, that's your MO. Everyone knows that you're a liar. It's not a secret anymore. It's out there. So for you to die on this hill is kind of weird, but considering you're going to die on the hill that the cancer diagnosis for Gertie was about you two, this is the least surprising news ever. But we move on from there. we get some very fun dildo talk for a while as the girls are all getting back to the stage. You know, who doesn't like a good dildo conversation?

It always happens with these girls. It does. They do bring up dildos more than other housewife franchises. It's just Kiki's bag when they were down in Fort Lauderdale was just full of dildos. There's a pinata with dildos. Yeah, a lot of dildos this year. Yeah, see? Huh. Interesting.

You know, we always talk about the themes of shows, maybe. There was Soundbath year. There was Roaring 20s party year. There was one more trope that they did for a while. And I guess we're now in the year of the dildo. We'll replace their, what do they have in their hands, mojitos? Mojito. You don't replace them with dildos.

Yeah, come on. Jesus Christ. It's a good visual. Let's keep going. We get a conversation about Jody and Lisa, and this is when we start to get into Lisa's side of things this season. And I didn't know that the kids thought that Jody was their gay uncle. She had mentioned that at one point in time that her son thought that. I think that it was just kind of a throwaway line.

I was more concerned with the fact that I didn't. I didn't know Jody was in the room with Marcus. I didn't care for the fact that they're both standing there, like, arms crossed, watching this all happen. Like, go away, guys. Go away. The fuck out of here. I don't need them to come out either. I don't need them on stage.

How many times do we hear the women during these reunions? Like, this is the worst part of the season. I don't want to do it. I have to get dressed up. Even Andy doesn't really want to do it. Why the fuck are you there? What do you do? Moral support?

We just start drinking, like, start boozing a little bit, you know? Have a party. Have fun back there. Instead of standing like idiots staring at the TV. screen because you want to hear if they talk shit about you don't know about our love yeah don't you talk shit about my love but we get into the Lisa Lenny shit that's still going on we know it's still going on still in the media we get little tidbits here and there we don't get as much as we used to get for sure but there is still some inklings about what's going on and it's getting worse and worse and we saw

the clip of the police getting involved when there was the plant debacle because he's suing for plants and furniture let's not gloss over anything I know we went after Lisa a lot this season and rightfully so, because she sucked. Lenny's worse. And we know that. Like, I'm not, Lenny's like a, he's a piece of shit human being. And I, it's a little upsetting that we even have to say it. I know. Like, we have to clarify that. Lisa had such a bad season this year. And she was annoying and very selfish that we have to clarify. By the way, Lenny is still worse. He's still, he's not on the screen. So we don't care about him at all. Right. But he's still somehow interjecting himself when he's not there. It's just the spirit of Lenny is just kind of

floor of Lenny. The massive garbage human that is Lenny. Demon spirit. I didn't know that Lisa's mom and her aunt were staying at the house and Lenny's new chick was walking around in lingerie while they were there before kicking them out of the house. Like, I'm just trying to envision this. How dumb, like, what the fuck? What's the point? What are you trying to prove? Like, oh, I'm going to walk around and be disrespectful to her. I don't think that happened.

I do think that happened. I really do. I think she could have been walking around like a bathing suit or something, like a bikini. It doesn't matter. You know, how it works. Scantily clad. Fair. bouncing about the house in front of your ex's mom.

This is very clearly, like, we're going to say this for effect. Like, she's walking around in lingerie with a little robe on. I believe it. With the Instagram pictures that they post together, like, that is the least shocking news ever. I believe it in a heartbeat. I do think she was saving it for this moment, but it's the reunion. You got to bring some ammo. Got to bring it in.

But anyway, we find out about the house. You know, when the house is built, I guess it's under the kids' names. And there's just a lot of shit that these two need to figure out that I don't think we're ever going to get to the end of it. I think in five years we'll still be discussing this, unfortunately, but we start to dive into Lisa versus everybody this season because we saw her take a very weird route this year when we were under the impression that she was going to come into this season as the woman scorned by Lenny, which would be a layup.

That's the easiest storyline ever. We'll all be on your team. We'll all support you, back you just like we did last year, watching you go through all that. It doesn't take away from the fact that what you're going through really sucks, and Lenny's a piece of shit, and he's making it much more difficult on yourself, but the behavior that we've seen Lisa exhibit this year is all selfish. She hasn't acknowledged anybody else's problems in the group.

She makes everything about herself. And when they're not talking about her or her issues, she checks out of the conversation entirely. Yeah, and I really loved that they were obviously giving examples of when Lisa has done this. And we've pointed out a few, at least the ones that have really mattered. We did not point out the fact that she went back onto the boat. I didn't know that. I didn't know that.

I didn't know that either. But I do think that that doesn't really matter. But I really do love that she brought up the fact that she had texted Gertie and said, hey, yeah, you know, I'm just checking it, making sure everything's okay. I had to pause it so that I could read the whole thing just to get the full synopsis. You know how it goes. And I'm reading through it. Like, she reached out and she wanted to make sure that she was okay.

Nice. At least she's thinking of other people. Good job. Way to go. Then drops in that she grabbed the lipstick. And she goes off and says, you thanked me for going and getting your lipstick. Like, that is not the point, Lisa. It's not.

How clouded is your mind right now by all of this? And we talked about it the entire year, and it's so fucking frustrating because, again, and we keep coming back to this over and over and over again with all the shitty behavior that we've seen from Lisa and mostly from Larsa, Gertie's cancer. That's it. Yes. Yes. Your problems can matter, and Gertie's problems can matter. Right. You're allowed to acknowledge both sides.

One side doesn't take more than the other one. You can just go ahead and swap back and forth. But to completely shut the other side out with Gertie having cancer just because your problems are so big and everybody's not understanding. how bigger problems are, is fucking lunacy. It is, because you're then diminishing cancer. No one's denying that you're in the fight of, quote, unquote, your life. Because this is the biggest thing you've had to go to battle for. We get it.

Across the room from you is a woman that had breast cancer. It's literally life or death. That's the difference. But this was Lisa's opportunity to at least get some sympathy back. Oh, you think that's what she was trying to do? No, she didn't. No, not at all. She didn't even try, really.

She buried herself again. She could have apologized and said, look, obviously my behavior was erratic because of what I was going through. And yes, maybe I was shitty to my friends and specifically to Gertie, especially when we saw that at Marisol's house where she just walked out. She's like, well, I really know how to clear a room. Like, you are so tone deaf. It's insane. You could have gotten anything back because people will give you grace because of what we already just said. Lenny is still worse than you.

Yes. He's a terrible person. So if you apologize, all is really forgiven, honestly. I think that. For what you're in right now and the shit that you're in, if you just. apologized, everything would have been forgiven. And everybody would have been like, all right, cool, glad you see it our way finally. And she didn't take that opportunity, which is so crazy because that's low-hanging fruit.

Like, who the fuck is in your corner? Who's in your ear? Who's your PR team that's not helping you through this? It's insane. Larsa. Yeah, she's her PR team. She's in her ear the whole time. But the whole group kind of highlights what the problem was with Lisa's approach this year.

I don't think that she was going through it and not thinking about our kids. I'm sure that they were at the forefront of her mind. But when you go back and watch these scenes, that is not how it's articulated. She brings up the kids, yeah, but 90% of the shit she's complaining about is all material things. And Alexia points that out, like, you're materialistic, your arguments and fights have been over material things. Gertie points out, I know you're fighting for your kids. They're both healthy and safe. And she's like up in arms.

She's going back at Gertie. Like, I'm fighting. This is about my kids. It's not about the money. It's like, yeah, but that got lost along the way. We didn't see that from you because you got so hung up on the. the details about the house. I got hung up on the details about the car. You decided to embarrass your housekeeper by borrowing her car to make it look like you are poor, which has no regard

for your poor housekeeper has to see her car getting mocked on TV. This is the issue. You're not highlighting the right things. You're highlighting materials. That's the issue the whole group has, and this is the problem with Lisa's fight against Lenny or how she portrays it. Because if she had more wherewithal in the moment to be like, oh, I get it. Like, hey, Gertie, my bad, I didn't mean to overstep. However, can you acknowledge that this is the biggest fight of my life? Yeah. That's

so much easier. I think that would have been a lot easier. And I think the reason why, and like we've been bashing Lisa because of her behavior the entire time, the reason why we don't have remorse and we don't have that second thought where we say, look, she's going through a lot so her behavior can be like this and she gets an excuse

is because she still has the mental capacity to do things like that, to drive her housekeeper's car to make jokes about stuff like that to talk about people like you're spending specifically we're not even talking about lending anymore we're talking about other things that you are unable to focus on what really matters and at the end of the day like if you just talked about letting the entire time would it be annoying yes but maybe people would have figured that out it's all the other shitty things that you did along the way yes that's why we're not giving you an excuse for your behavior correct and that's why you fell in the rankings this season but we get into the anna drama

you know, at the Mommacita brunch, and we find out of, I didn't know this, that Marisol's mom actually passed away on Mother's Day. So she was looking forward to this event because she's a stepmom now and she was getting excited for it and she wanted to go and celebrate Mother's Day. Adriana, being Adriana, has to point out, it's not the real Mother's Day. That's not the point. That's not, you don't have to, like, clarify that that's not actually the day your mom died. Like, what a weird fucking thing to say. Even for her, I was like, whoa, like, that's the thing though like yes I do understand where people are thinking

Adriana does goofy dumb shit all the time and maybe people can look at that and say she did things to keep it light and keep it funny and everything she does is crazy this was vindictive that was weird yeah this was exactly what I'm talking about where it's everything that she does is either a

look at me moment which is you know the poem that we saw in the first part or you forgot about the fucking poem how do you forget about the poem and you're laughing again all is forgiven now because of the problem. No. God damn it.

No, this moment still sucks. No, this moment sucks when she's sitting there in Marisol. This is the first time, by the way, that we've really seen Marisol have an emotional conversation. She was breaking down. She's talking about her mother passing. She's talking about how Mother's Day is very special for her, not very special for her, but something that she has never really felt for.

It's an important day for her. Yeah, because she's a stepmother and she's not included in things like that, or at least, you know, as much as her friends are. And there's a lot going on, and she starts crying. We don't see Marisol cry. No. Marisol doesn't fucking cry. What does Adriana say immediately?

Crocodile tears. Fuck you, Adrian. Brutal. That's brutal. It's a tough scene. But that's all she cares about is the look at me moments with the fucking poem. And she has this huge vendetta against Marisol and Alexia. So every move that she makes is either to go after them or to have the camera look at her.

That's why I don't like her. She doesn't bring anything to the goddamn show. You didn't even bring this up. And I'm fucking, I'm still heated about this. I'm pointing. You're finger gunning all over the room. And all over the place. And you're not seeing shit if you're not watching.

watching YouTube, but I'm fingergunned everywhere. Pugh, pew, phew. That's what they call him shooter. Yeah, tough Adriana. I'm done with her. She can go away forever. Well, we start to discuss Anna and how that whole situation came about. These are some of the things in the universe of Housewives and Bravo.

We're never really going to know what happened, where everybody stood, what the relationships were or weren't before this, because we get conflicting reports where there was a charity event last year. And at the charity event, I guess everybody had made good and everyone was on the the same page and everybody was happy so relationships were at least like mended slightly yeah but then we hear also that shit fell apart before that like that was before the reunion i was very confused there was too much info and it didn't all track so like that's once again one of the faux pas of these shows is like it's she said she said and we don't really know because we weren't there but andy

brings something up and points out that is Nicole as innocent as she claims to be because this seemed a little bit shady. And I think that this is where Nicole plays the game really well. Yep. Because I do think she's shady. Absolutely. I think she covers it up very well. Yeah, we talked about it.

That's what actually leads to the confusion because most people on these shows don't cover it up that well. No. Like we can tell right away when they're lying. And Nicole, we can't. No, she's good at it. We talked about it for a couple of weeks because it kept getting brought up because Alexi wouldn't let it go and she has this thing against Nicole, which we'll get to.

And we could not tell if Nicole knew anything. And I still do think, in my heart of hearts, Nicole knew exactly what she was doing. I do too. I think that Adriana was behind it originally, but once the idea was brought to Nicole, she said, yeah, this is good for the show, which it is. It's good for the show, and this is easy to hide behind Adriana, because she is. Which didn't work at the time, which was the most confusing thing in the world. I know.

Yeah. They saw through it. They, I don't think that was, that wasn't them seeing through it. That was their bias against Nicole. Yeah, I think it was their, it was partially their bias against Nicole. And I also think that, like, halfway through the season, you could kind of see a shift where Marrith Saul and Alexia just stopped caring about Adriana. It was like after the whole

fartulence thing in the bus on the way to the basketball game, they just stopped giving a shit about Adriana and the things that she was doing, which worked, and it was kind of funny. But they didn't care. And I think we kind of missed that originally. But now looking back, hindsight, 2020. Maybe that's why they were so much better this year is because

they didn't get caught up in like all of Adriana's bullshit every single episode. That's actually an astute observation. How about that? But Nicole points out to Alexia and to Marisol, like, you guys have had it in for me since day one. You guys have had a boner for me, which is really funny. I think she started off by saying you had a hard on for me.

And then she doubled down by saying boner, which is just funny. Under any context, you say the word, it's great. It's always a funny word. And she's like, you need to go to the bathroom and clap one out. I was like, oh, damn, they're going to go catch a beat in the bathroom. Clap one out. During the Volvo Fall Experience event, discover exceptional offers and thoughtful design that leaves plenty of room for autumn adventures

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using, and I don't, was this after the brunch, like immediately after we get a video of Nicole, Lisa, and Marisol? Yep. That is directly after that brunch. But that, this is where, like, Marisol's credibility falters, because she will stand and die on a certain hill, but more evidence comes out. I think that Marisol just is a shitster. And I think that that is her M.O.

I think that's what she likes to do. I think she gets caught sometimes, but that's the other thing about Marisol. She always gets through it. Pretty much unscathed. Like, she'll have a moment. People will go after a little bit, but her alliance with Alexia, it, like, solidifies that they will never be at the bad end of, like, they don't get their ass kicked by the other women. No, they really don't. And I was a little confused, too, because we know, I think this was on the heels of coming back from Fort Lauderdale where Marisol and Nicole pseudo made up.

And I think that's, I think that's why Marisol was pissed off when she found out that Adam was there because she had just squashed things with Nicole. And now, all of a sudden, Nicole's pulling this. rightfully so that's fair but then she went out to lunch with them afterwards and alexia didn't know about it and i think that's really funny and that kind of brings us back to where we were in the middle of the season where we were talking about how marisone alexia aren't teaming up to go after people as much they're not doing as much at least as much active nuisancy nuisance is that good one is that our word i like that our webster word yeah i've been trying to think a new ones uh but anyway yeah so we haven't seen them actively go against anybody at least for the

majority of the season, and that actually led to them having a much better season, at least from the viewer's perspective. So Alexia, not knowing the Marisol was there after all of that, now they did come back. Yeah. Well, at least say that. It's not like they left, and then Marisol left her house and met up with them afterwards to go talk about it. That would have been even funnier, I think, but they did come back. So I don't really think it's that big of a deal. It's just showing you, and we're going to see this in the next episode, showing you that there's a bit of a wedge developing between Marisol and Alexia. And I want to see where that goes, and I'm really interested in seeing where that goes because they were so inseparable last year to the point

where they would never disagree with each other. And we saw a little bit of it this year. If we go a completely different direction next year, that's going to be pretty entertaining, I think. It would be entertaining. I just don't know if they'll ever have a wedge big enough to cause problems. But that being said, I never expected to see them go tit for tat this year. And they did. So we could see that next year. It's interesting. Anytime you see alliances break down, especially one that tight yeah i mean we'll see what happens but that's when we get to julia and primarily the shit that happened between her and lisa because we had a scene where lisa stands up and like yells at her and says you have three baby daddies in regards to her kids and in response to that

julia made a post online and said a bunch of things about lisa and lisa had a big issue with that but if you go back throughout the season and julia's behavior in general What they said last episode does ring true. Julia, when she brings things to the group, it might be shit-stirring, yes, but it's usually true. She's not one to throw a random rumor out there and see what happens. She usually at least believes that it's true before she brings it to the group. She doesn't just bring up some tabloid that she read and say, hey, did you guys hear about this? Yeah, she's not going through her DMs and just getting random things sent to her and then putting it out to the group, like some people in the, actually a lot of people on this show do.

Yeah, but Lisa's biggest problem was like, we have an open line. of communication why wouldn't you come to me and it's like well she hadn't noticed that you said that until she watched the episode back went right over her head we come to find out when this scene ends because these two go back and forth and lisa's like i need an apology from you i need an apology from you and that's side note here the issue with the left side of the room primarily larsa and lisa they demand apologies they need apologies to feel like they are in the right in some way, shape, or form, instead of looking at these scenarios and being like, wow, we kind of suck this year, huh?

I challenged somebody that had cancer. Lisa, I made everything about me. I disregarded everybody else's feelings. Watching that back, if they took the initiative, in my opinion, at least, if they took the initiative and said, hey, we're sorry for our part in this, not even our part, we're sorry for the things we did. And then there is an open bridge for the other person, such as Julia, to be like, hey, I was in a weird place, so I just lashed out online.

some things. You know me. I didn't mean it maliciously. It was poorly worded. I love you. I'm sorry. And we do get that scene immediately after this. We're in the dressing room. And Julia says to her, like, I am sorry. I didn't mean to say the things that I said that came out wrong. I always want to be cool with you. And I love that Julia didn't apologize on stage in front of everybody. She took the time to go into her room and actually have a conversation with Lisa and make it more personal and explain to her where the animosity came from. Because Somebody had sent her pictures of, I want to, Vika, V-I-K-A. I think so, yeah.

She was her daughter, and they were sending her pictures of her. And amongst those pictures, there was also a picture of her son, Max, which was a mistake. It wasn't meant to be sent to her. And that caused, God knows what kind of emotions in her. So that, on top of the fact that she just, her Lisa say, of three baby daddy, so she's already in her feels, here's one of her friends say that. And that's the first time she recognized what Lisa actually said. So she lashed out online.

Not unfounded, not something that we haven't seen on these shows before, and something that I would imagine Lisa would do in return. So where I see Lisa getting upset, sure, I thought it was weird once again to demand an apology from Julia. Yeah, it is really weird to demand an apology. And I had mixed feelings about the apology itself, because we're on this show, we're on the reunion. This is when things are supposed to get settled. Yeah. So at first, when Julia had gone to Lisa's room, I thought it was kind of fake. Like, you could have just done this on stage, whatever.

but when I really think about it in the moment if she had validated Lisa while she's yelling at her saying hey give me an apology in front of the group it makes Julia look weak Lisa wins

Lisa wins going to her privately even though the cameras are still there even though we're obviously still in the reunion and we're still going to see all of this going to her privately is different because you let the emotions kind of boil down a little bit

you have a little bit of time to sit on it Lisa thankfully didn't go back to the room and start ranting and raving about how Julia is a bitch and she did all these things, she decided to kind of calm down a little bit, if you will, and Julia went in, explained her side of it and gave her a heartfelt apology. I think that's a way that, and this is something

that you can really only do with Julia because she is very real. Yeah, she is. And she shows us so much and she has such a wide range of emotions that she can actually convey through a TV show, which is really impossible to do. Going and doing it like this, I thought, was the most genuine way to do it. And I think it caught Lisa off guard because we didn't see,

and obviously, you know, you bring up your son who passed away a long time ago and this is a whole fucking thing Lisa's still got a heart at some point she's still a mother so she's not going to lash out still I think it caught her completely off guard and I think it got to the point where yes you can accept the apology and now we actually officially squashed it it is something that we probably won't bring back up ever again no which is good we want things like that we like when that happens but I would actually I don't know I had a little bit of a different take I do think I caught her off guard, but I also, in this scene, I'm like, you know what?

If people do, and look, it's a housewife show, so you're not going to get people having one-on-ones very often to squash things and having, like, adult conversations. Well, you will, but they're not going to be genuine apology. Right. But I do think that when Lisa is surrounded by the group and you approach her with an issue, and she has said this in the past, and I kind of brushed it up, but watching this scene, I think that she immediately enters defense mode when there's more than one woman around in the group. Yeah, she has an image to uphold or something.

But when you get her one-on-one, like in this scene where there's not yelling, they're having a conversation, she's able to retain what Julie is saying to her and process it and actually have a conversation. So I'm actually going to give Lisa a little bit of credit here and say that maybe if she is approached in a certain way, we wouldn't see these big scenes where she starts to defend herself, she gets overwhelmed and starts saying the wrong thing. I don't want to give her too much credit but I think that we did see something here

where it's like okay well maybe this is how you approach Lisa if you want to get to an actual settlement I think it was mother to mother I really do because if you can try to convey to Lisa or get down to the level of hey I know you're a mother and you're a good mother that's enough

for Lisa. I think at the end of the day Lisa is a good mom so I think that was the biggest issue with what Julia said which at the time I didn't really think it was that bad but it's a little shitty. Yeah, it's a little shitty. So I'm glad that they were able to squash it, but we get to Gertie. And Gertie's journey throughout this season that we've all bared witness to, which was a remarkable story to watch. And she highlights why it was

important for her to do this. And we've gotten some shitty comments where people had the balls to, like, lash out at us for the Larsa video that I posted and say, well, Gertie shouldn't be on the show if she's battling this and that's like, shut the fuck up. Because by doing this, it's exactly what she intended to do. She said that she wanted to share her journey to show people that you can still have a life, that you can get through this process. And she wanted to show the resiliency that she had and to show the insight to her family life with Russell being supportive. And just to go along this journey with her was really powerful to see her get through it and come out the other side and her being so open and vulnerable, allowing us into

the room while she's shaving her head. That scene will forever live in my mind. That was such an emotionally touching scene and something that we're not partied to in most TV shows to see something so real. So this is a very awesome thing for her to be strong enough to do and share with us. So I'm glad that she was able to do that throughout the season. And she had Russell along the way, watching him and her interact was amazing. But we do find out that when the cameras turned off during one of her chemo sessions, she actually went into toxic shock. So this has been a difficult journey. More so than just the two surgeries, the

emotional trauma that comes with it. Everything that she has battled and she kicked the shit out of cancer and it's fucking awesome and you would think that her is sitting there talking about all of this stuff and opening up and sharing how amazing this journey was, that Larsa, especially after watching the season

seeing all the backlash, she would at least in this one instance take her head out of her ass and acknowledge it and just fucking a apologize and say, I was wrong. I can't believe I'd ever question you in this. What an idiot I am.

No. No, that's not what happens. And, like, of course, I should have known that. Yeah, I don't know what the fuck you were expecting. She's never shown any ounce of remorse. She's a terrible fucking person. She's a complete piece of shit. Yeah, I know.

Why did you think that she was going to show anything? Because we... What is with you in thinking that people are always good? I am an optimist. And also, like, I've explained this to you. I've explained it on the... the podcast, the things in this world that make me angrier or more frustrated than anything else in this world is when I can't apply logic to a situation. When I can't logically understand how

somebody's brain is functioning, I get irritated, such as this is a cancer diagnosis. How the fuck could you make it about yourself? How are you not concerned about your friend? Well, I can break down for you if you want to. I would love that because I don't have the energy to. All right, so there's this girl named Larsa, right? She's a complete and utter piece of fucking garbage. She's an absolute piece of shit. She's maybe the worst person in all of housewives. Yeah. By far, at least at this point, I mean, she's worse than Tom Sandival.

She is a fucking garbage human level. She's on the level. No, she's worse. You think? I think she's fucking worse. Wow. You can't do that. You can't be little of friends, let alone anything else. You can't be little a friend's cancer diagnosis. You can't be little an enemy's cancer diagnosis.

Like, if you hate the person, I still don't think there's grounds to like, again, you are thinking that people People are good. People are good. They're not inherently bad. People are not inherently bad. Okay.

That's a discussion for a different day. But she is awful. And for you to think that she would have any, any semblance of any remorse is insane to me. Don't you call it insane. She has never shown anything to say the otherwise. It's ridiculous. I mean, she is so in her own fucking ass. She is so in her own head about her own image, what she's going through.

the only time that we saw her with any sort of cause for concern was when Michael fucking Jordan laughed about her relationship. That's the only time that she ever shut the fuck up. The rest of the time, she's pushing her own agenda. She's always pushing her own thoughts. Whatever Larsa thinks is going on is what's going on in Larsa's world. We've seen that time and time again. So apparently we need Michael fucking Jordan to come down

and tell Larsa, hey, your friend's got cancer. Shut the fuck up. And she might shut the fuck up. I'll DM him. We should DM Michael Jordan. We'll get him out there. We'll go ahead and do that. her sitting there and talking about this and talking about the first conversation, which

is I'm so happy we finally got into it, about the cancer diagnosis and her immediate reaction. And I loved the question that Andy read from one of the fans saying, do you think that was not the best idea? No, he said, when someone tells you that, catcher, don't say, how do you know? And she, did you see a reaction on her face? She got defensive instantly, instantly. Instantly defensive. Well, how am I supposed to know? Like, stop doubling down.

Just stop. And this is what... There's no chance in hell that Larson went back and watch this season. I think she picks and chooses different scenes and she only wants to watch the happy times and she has to be on the camera at that point in time. That's how up her own ass she is.

She doesn't care about anybody else's lives. She doesn't care about anybody else's storylines. She's just going to watch the scenes that she's in. And not the ones with Gertie where people are bashing her online. She's going to watch the fun stuff. That's what she's going to... She probably just went back and rewatched her and Marcus doing the goddamn podcast. I bet she just has a montage of, like, I guarantee she does, and she had somebody cut it and they put it out as an ad.

Separationing. Separation anxiety. Jesus Christ. Yeah. No, she's a terrible person. So for her to sit there and say, I thought that when you told me not to tell people that you meant social media, that's all you need to know about, Larsa. That's a really good. That is how this works.

Okay, so here's social media, Larsa. Here's the real world. Which one do you live in? Oh, yeah, you sell feet picks on the other one. So fuck off. That's where you are. You weirdo? 100%.

You're right. It's just, I always hold out hope. people but we get to the point of her telling everybody else as you just said her my understanding was don't play the semantics nobody gives a shit what you're understanding no you have the brain of a fucking 10 year old she's saying i wanted to tell people so that they rallied around you and showed you love gertie points out you didn't tell my friends you told your friends i don't know them she's like they're great people irrelevant irrelevant to the situation it has nothing to do with it. They are not Gertie's friends. She doesn't need their support. She doesn't need

randos coming up and saying, hey, Larsa said that you had cancer. We're so sorry. That's not a good situation. What she needs is to tell people on her own timeline when she's comfortable to share with the group because even telling you, Larsa, that was forced because you were being a dickhead while she was going through something trying to get through to you because you're so upset that she said you're the fakesest one in the group, which, hello, you are. Let's re-watch. Let's re-watch all the clips from the season. You are fake as shit. You say one thing and do another. So that is the definition of being a fake person. She just highlighted what is true. And you kept arguing and arguing and arguing. And as Gertie said, she's in a very dark place here. So eventually it just came

out. Like when I rewatched it, that's the first time I realized. Like, oh, I don't know if I know she went into that planning on telling her she had cancer. I think that it just came out because she was so frustrated. And she's like, dude, I have fucking cancer. And like, we're yelling. thousand percent. That's exactly how it went. She had a much better idea as to how she's going to approach the subject. And Larsa didn't let her get there because she frustrated her to the point that she had to blurt it out. The big thing from this exchange entirely for me is Gertie had fucking cancer and she still showed up well prepared to go after Larsa. Damn right. That is crazy. That is awesome. That is mental fortitude

that is some fucking mental fortitude for sure. Larsa didn't come up for anything. No. She is not prepared it's so funny when you know what the thing is she is so delusional that she's talking herself into the fact that she's already winning that's what's the worst part like she's sitting there and she's smiling back because she thinks that she's winning she thinks that people are on her side nobody's on your side no nobody's on your side marcus who has his arms crossed and marcus sucks too now so yeah fuck that dude like jesus christ i hope he gets pushed out of the will somebody commented like on our on our twitter thing and they were like these guys would never say this to marcus i was like fucking bring them on

on the podcast. I'll say this to his face. I don't give two fucks. You think I'm afraid about a failed D1 basketball player? About NEPO, maybe? I'm good. We'll say this to his face. We don't give a shit. It would have been D3 if his dad was on Michael Jordan. Hey-oh. But back to the show, Andy asks, sir, do you think this is the easiest one? This is, this is the layup of all layups. Okay? This is a six-foot rim with a seven-foot dude that just needs to drop the ball. This is Wembe going on a six-foot rim. Okay? sports you has sports all you have to say right now and he teed it up for you do you owe her an apology yes i do i'm sorry period so simple so easy what is lars to say i've apologized

35 thousand times crazy number and gerty points out no you didn't this is the hill that you're dying on over and over again people said 12 when they were talking about numbers what the fuck happened to 12 where did 12 go it was 12 last week what are we doing here Kyle assured me that people say 12 when confronted about a random number. It's 12. But 35,000 times she apologized. Gertie highlights, no, this is what you keep saying. You say that you've apologized and refused to apologize again.

You've never actually said, sorry. We haven't seen it. And I don't imagine that behind closed doors or off camera, you've said it to her either. I think that you keep saying that you did and you keep trying to justify your shitty actions throughout the entire season rather than take any ownership. What do you think? What do you think Larza does off camera?

I think that she just has a charging station. She just goes over and just stands in the corner, just charges back up and they're like, all right, cameras are on, she comes back out. No, I think she takes feet picks and hangs out with Marcus Jordan all day. That's still on camera. I think there's no cameras around. I think that she charges up.

She just charges, gets ready for the day, gets ready for the cameras. I don't fucking know. I don't understand her. It drives me crazy, but it melts down. start going back and forth, which again, is crazy. And Gertie said at the beginning of this segment. She says what we're all thinking. I have fucking cancer.

It's so stupid. It's so crazy that we have to sit here and do this every week when we talk about Miami. It's like, this is so obvious to everybody. Why is nobody talking up? I said that last week. I don't know. Because I could actually see Gertie saying, look, this is my fight. I want to go after her.

And other people recognizing that and respecting it. but at the same time how do you not stand there while this is going on and start yelling at larsa i don't know how is nobody doing it watched it all season anytime the shit popped off stone faced across the board are like yeah you see like marisaw and kiki are kind of reacting but nobody's saying anything nobody's speaking up on gertie's behalf and it's fucking insane it's crazy to me i don't know what's going on something's in the water down in miami i had a problem with it the whole season i didn't understand why in any of these scenes with larsa nobody came to garty's defense are they afraid Does it go back to the fact that Larsa's threatened to release things to the press?

It could be. And people are just afraid of going at Larsa because she's unhinged and she'll tell the press what's going on. But if her ammo is that people are doing drugs at a wedding, like, okay, they're doing cocaine at a wedding in Miami? No. Not Miami. Not Miami. Come on. What do you mean?

Not a bunch of rich people doing cocaine at a wedding in Miami. That's crazy. I thought that the caterers provided it. Like, what are we talking about here? We're adults. We can say this out loud. like what the fuck here the most popular fiction podcast of all time which the new york times described as what might occur if david lynch was a producer at your local radio station welcome to night veil is a twice monthly update from a small desert town where the paranormal is real every conspiracy theory is true we all have to get on with our lives anyway welcome to night veil is available wherever you get your podcasts hi i'm here here to tell you about good morning night veil welcome to night veil's official recap show and unofficial

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eat her lunch, and I really hope that's what happens. And I, hope that there is a piece of humble pie for Larsa Pippin waiting somewhere in the future. I don't see it happening because she'll never accept the feat. No. If she doesn't bend the knee to somebody battling cancer, there is no redemption. You don't have a moment to come back from this. This was your chance. Andy said, do you want to apologize?

I already did. 35,000 times, man. I ain't do it again. Like, fuck. It's genuinely. frustrating. It hurts me. It hurts my brain. But I'm looking forward to episode three. And if they can do it, if they can pull off a three-parter, all landing, this is going to be one of the better seasons of Housewives this year, arguably the best season that I've seen. It was the most consistent. Most consistent season. But let's get to some questions. Up first from female-owned film, how can anyone stand Lisa anymore? This has been a horrible season. bunch idiots yeah yeah i agree i think that here's the thing with lisa she has not gone too far on the villain side of things that she can't come back next season and and fix things she'll still be

on the show for sure no i know i just don't understand the people that are defending her all mine i don't either and they their argument is that she's going through a lot and yes we acknowledge that we're not taking away from her battle and i think and i hope that she can watch this season back and maybe as the divorce stuff starts to settle down a little bit, we might see a different side of Lisa next year, maybe get into more stuff with her and Jody. I'm curious about that relationship without discussing Lenny. She's still going to be discussing Lenny, though. But that's my point. Like maybe there, look, she's not too far gone is my point. No, I don't think Lisa is. I think Lisa, and look, I mean, she's going to battle with Lenny for years to come, but eventually she's

going to get tired of dealing with it or at least tired of talking about it all the time. So there's still hope for Lisa. That's what I mean. There's no hope for Larsa. as a good human being. No, she's done. She's wagons. But the thing that sucks, she's good for the show. I'll admit that.

Oh, yeah, she's great for the show. And I'll always admit that. But she stinks as a human. Oh, here you go. From Schafferra 717. Who's worse? Larissa Sandoval. Larsa.

I think I'm on your team here. I think I agree. Yeah. From Angel Renee, this is my first season watching Rom. Are Larsa and Lisa always like this? Larsa is? Yes.

Lisa, no. We've had a different Lisa from season to season. I think that she was under the impression that her Lenny stuff would be able to carry her through this season and instead it wore thin, not only with the group, but with the viewers, especially when she made it about herself. From Christy Jed, Licky, who has a frequent questioner, thank you for asking another one, is there any way that Larson Gertie can move forward after Larson's horrible behavior? I would say no, but I do know that Gertie has has a huge heart, and I also don't think that she's one to harbor negative feelings. So I think that it all hinges upon whether or not Larsa can have a moment where she says,

hey, I'm sorry. And I don't know if that'll ever happen. I don't know if it'll ever happen or if she'll sort of do it. Lars is a trickster. Like she'll find a way to kind of weasel her way through and still be okay or at least in the good graces of some people. So I think we're going to see them mingle a bit next year. But, and it might be somewhat casual, but I don't think that they'll ever actually be friends.

No, because there needs to be a... Gertie will never trust her with any news ever again. Well, she didn't before that. That was a test, and Larsa failed miserably. Then people online are like, why would you test somebody with cancer? Because you have to know if your friend's a piece of shit or not. It's the perfect time to do that. Hey, here's massive news.

I don't want to share with anybody. Don't tell anybody. You told all of your friends. You told all of your friends that I don't know. What a weird fucking move. But whatever. See, I stayed calm. You did.

I stayed calm. I laughed. Laughed a lot. Had some laughter. Giggled. You got a little heated. That was fun to watch. Yep.

But, yeah, looking forward to next week's episode. I guess that's tomorrow. It'll be going while we're on stage. It's on Thursday. Oh, it is on Thursday? Beverly Hills tomorrow. Yep. Okay.

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