Bros & Shows - RHONJ SERIES FINALE?! (RHONJ Full Recap)

Episode Date: August 6, 2024

What is up Bros? Did we just watch the series finale for RHONJ as we know it? Is a reboot on the horizon? Who knows what's in store for the future, but we will say, the ended on a high note. This was a solid episode and a good finale. It didn't quite pack the punch that we were expecting from all of the build up but it was a great farewell to this cast. Dolo loses it on Marge after Marge claims she invited her to the pre-reunion summit. Dolores calls her a liar and gets more amped up than we've seen her in years (and Marge did not know how to handle it). Louie shows his true colors once again when talking with Teresa pre meeting and wishing harm to all of Marge's family including her son. Then we get to the last rites dinner. Everyone has one more chance to square off and say their peace. Danielle and Jen go at it and it ends with Danielle lunging at her across the table. Melissa and Teresa finally have words with one another but the bombshell comes from Marge... when she announces that it was actually Jackie that met with Louie's ex in 2021 and all evidence points to her being the culprit behind the Louie "propaganda" (although is it propaganda if its true?) All that and more on todays episode! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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I don't need the spotlight. I shine just fine. Hi, I'm Karma. And yes, I am a bitch. Brov Bros. Good evening, everybody, and welcome back to another episode of Brav Bros, your favorite podcast from the Bros for everybody. For whoever wants to listen, I am your co-host. Russell joined as always by the one and only rootin tootin m'guton what's up dude uh is this the last

time we're going to be talking about jersey with these people or what no because we got to do the uh reunion that might be that might be the shortest episode that we ever do well are they just watching what we just watched and that talking about it i think so yeah well then yeah i don't know we're going to have a lot of different thoughts than what we have right now what are we supposed to do i don't really understand that i don't know but i just hustled here for if you're watching on youtube you'll notice i'm wearing a baseball jersey i don't think that grown men should wear baseball jerseys unless you're playing on an actual team i just came from my 28 and over men's league and uh let me tell you i caught seven innings i'm dying i'm actually dying steels actually uh he did not play

baseball tonight he just wanted to put a baseball jersey on to remind everybody that he played baseball that's like that. Hey guys, just let you know, you know. I still did this tape. I know I saw your fucking tape. I need to take it off. It's going to start to burn. But anyway, we're here to talk about Jersey. Quite possibly the last Jersey finale with this cast, more than likely, like 99.99% sure this is the last one with this specific cast, whether or not they bring OGs back for the reboot or whatever they're doing with it, it remains. to be seen but I do think that we saw the last of this crew together and that you can tell when they do like the montages we got like the throwback of through the years you know all that good stuff the old vpr treatment yeah the vpr treatment which you know barring a scandal of all level event which it could be in the cards you never know something might pop up no bring the cameras back

up but for now this is it what did you think of the finale I thought that it was everything spilling over from a horseshit season. I honestly, I do think that the cast is as frustrated as the rest of us for some at least to some extent, maybe not the entire cast. But I think they all kind of realize the writing's on the wall. There's not much to do. There's nothing that really can be done. You can't have these people sit in a room together.

And we've seen that before to some extent, but not as bad as this, where you can't even get through a conversation. they don't want to be in the same room together so you can't really have a show and i think they all kind of realize that i think the gorgas have already kind of set that up because i was interrupted by a ral's tomato sauce commercial for joe like what the fuck is that dude like you've realized in the money money's gonna run out i better get that uh better get that advertisement money in when i can but yeah i i i really do think this is the end i i pray i hope that this is the end because this sucks i will say this far as episodes this season go, that was a good episode. I mean, yeah, it was crazy and it was a lot of yelling and all that kind of stuff. But it was arguably my favorite episode of the season for what that's worth.

It was just nice to, even though they're at each other's throat the whole time, to see the whole cast together, to see them get into it, to force Teresa to get involved, to force Melissa to get involved. Obviously, Marge has been involved, but no one, I feel like the entire season we've, been skirting around issues and it's all right this group talking about how they feel about it but then the other group but no one ever comes together so at least they came together and went out on a higher note not going to say when on a high note but a higher note than we've seen because if that's the last time we get this crew together i want them to at least have a like a final farewell and that is what we got for better or worse and i don't think we got nearly enough to get rid of a reunion I think that we definitely should still have that.

I thought it was going to be way worse, if I'm being honest, based off the way that they teased it, the things that we heard about what happened, the fact that everybody in the cast was talking about how we can't. Like, they just do not want to be in the same room together. That's really all it is. And if you can't come together for a reunion for a housewife show, because you can't be in the same room together,

then yeah, you don't deserve to get another season. They need to get rid of almost everybody. I don't know exactly what they're going to do. We never really do. people are arguing semantics online because Andy said reboot and they said that doesn't mean that the whole cast is gone and everybody keeps pointing to the Roney reboot where the whole cast was gone so it's it's a complete cluster fuck and we're not going to hear anything for a little while so not really sure but I do agree with you this was better it's not like the rest of the season was

any good this was at least watchable I'll give it that it's entertaining it was entertaining Adjacent, yes. Entertaining adjacent. I do have a question, and it's a rhetorical somewhat question, and I sent you something earlier on the topic, but I just have a question, and this goes out to a certain type of Roanjay fan, a certain type of Jersey fan, not the casual viewer, not the casual Bravo fan, and this is not about anybody specific. This is not about any podcast, any cast member. This is about a certain type of individual that you've seen them on Twitter. You've seen them in your comment section if your views do not align with theirs.

And it is the radical jersey fans. And they will not shut up. They are relentless. They will say the most ridiculous, outlandish, meanest shit you've ever seen in your life over a reality TV show. And my only question is, what the fuck are you going to talk about now? Now that this show is gone, how the fuck are you going to stay relevant? I would love to know what their thought process is. Are they going to start posting shit from like years ago and getting an argument

over that? Like what is going to be their bread and butter now? Because their entire personality, their entire schick was based around this show. So what the fuck are you going to do now? Nothing makes me happier about this season ending and this potential series ending than that group of people not have. having shit to talk about it anymore yeah i mean it's going to be very interesting because i mean at least we won't have dedicated exclusive episodes about this cast so we won't have clips from

our episodes that go into talking about them now we do know based off of how roney ended the people the cast that was on roney at least the mainstays they're still relevant they still pop up in the news all the time we'll talk about them here and there that's what's going to happen with teresa melissa marge the foodas are going to do whatever the hell they can to stay relevant and things like that. So yeah, we're going to talk about them here and there, but we're not going to have to deal with those comments

because that's what's going to happen. Twitter is still going to be a hellscape for everything and anything Jersey related. It's going to be funny to see how they react to the new cast. They're obviously going to hate them and they're going to rip them apart. Terrible. But we're still going to see those same people talking about people like Teresa and Melissa and Marge. We just won't care as much because they're not on our TV anymore.

Yeah, it won't matter. That's my whole point. it's like it's irrelevant now now you're like that old man screaming at a cloud like yeah it's just no longer relevant and it's just it's so great that is my silver lining that's the silver lining i like that yeah that's the silver lining for me but without further ado let's jump right now we start out with a pretty heavy first scene and you get marge and fessler and they're talking about that the wreath thing and it's interesting because in this scene marge says jacky's dead to me now

Now, she already knows the information that she's going to drop later, but she doesn't let on about that now. She's just, he's dead to me now because she's the biggest hypocrite. I did not know that was foreshadowing until the drop later, but I thought that was really interesting that she's putting little seeds together. And this was much more of a classic Housewives episode in which you get like a little teaser here, a little hint there, and then you get the big payoff at the end. We haven't gotten that with this show in a while. So I did appreciate that. but we're talking about the the recap of the marge roast the roast of marge junior and fessler said it wasn't presented to me as a roast and again to the fessler thing like what did you expect like well she said last week she said last week when and look i mean this is just fessler not using her brain because as she worked through it with marge she realized exactly what it was it was a march takedown it was a marge burn that the stake, if you will. And she goes, oh, my God, sounds a lot worse when I actually explain it.

So why are you still talking about the fact that you didn't think that that's what it was? Like, you should have realized that and then just said, oh, I'm a fucking idiot. And I should have realized that this was. Like, how do you not know what you're getting into? Fessler has completely fallen off the face of the earth for me this year compared to last year. Last year she was a little comical relief. This year, she doesn't even need to be on screen. I just don't care when she's there. No, but I do think that I think she's I don't know. I think there's something there. Maybe I'm holding on to nothing. Yeah, I think you're holding on to nothing. Maybe. I mean, that's kind of apparent. She bounced from the antics at the end of the episode. She couldn't even handle it. So I just don't think that this is her place. Yeah. I just, I want her to be good because last year I really enjoyed her. But they start recapping when Dolo gets there just about the anxiety from the trial that she's had for the past few years. And they start talking.

about exes, Louis X's in particular, and she's asking Marge, like, when did you contact the X? We're trying to get the timeline down on when you talked to her because apparently it was before this and she goes, no, I never talked to her before 2022. It was the first time we made contact. And I don't really know her, but I've seen her at events. And I was like, okay, well, that's bullshit. Yeah, that's bullshit right away. As soon as she said events, I called that out too. Yeah, you definitely have met or at least talked. don't just like see her off in the distance and go oh hi and like give her a little half-assed wave there's definitely been contact but the biggest thing is just everyone's tired of it like dolow's

tired of it the audience is tired of it marge is holding on to it because she has a bomb to drop which we find out again later and that was her whole premise here was she wants to drop bombs at this quote unquote roast i've got bombs to drop and i'm not going to lie when i heard that i was like meh no you don't like it's gonna be more the same shit she did have a big fucking nuclear bomb to drop but i didn't buy it and i was like this is going to be another build up to nothing so i'm glad it actually paid off but right after this and i think i want to get your take on what this reaction was specifically but they're talking about the summit the takedown of louis summit before the reunion last year and marge's like yeah you know i invited you to it she's like

no you didn't and it starts to ramp up up and she goes well you're a fucking liar and just goes in and dolow loses her fucking mind and snaps on marge and it's like you're not going to call me a fucking liar you're lying through your teeth and i want to know what you think that reaction was for was that actually because marger's challenging her integrity or is this everything all-encompassing just blowing over i think it's everything all-encompassing blowing over and for whatever reason Valores is still defending Teresa so much. And I don't really, I don't see it.

I don't understand it. There must be things that happen off screen where they are a lot closer than they appear to be on screen. They go to double date a lot. Like her totally go out with Louia and Teresa a lot. Yeah, she's really defending Teresa. And I think that she's probably a little scared because like we said last week, Teresa does not like, she's not acting like Teresa. She looks like she's, her mind is in 50 different places and it's not on the TV show for

sure. So I think that, yeah, I think that if we wanted to look at what Dolo was doing, it's really just that everything is boiling over. Now, I want to dig a little deeper. I do think that Marge probably did preface it by saying, hey, yeah, come over here and do a little reunion, a little reunion review, if you will, to try to gear up for this thing. Of course, Dolores should have realized we're all going to meet at Marge's off camera before the reunion, a week before the reunion. Of course, that's what it is. Like, you can't get that mad about that. You know what this is going to be. It's at Marge's house of all. all places.

Everybody's getting together except for Teresa. Like, you should have known that that's what it was. So I didn't know that it was happening is what her claim is. I think she was invited. I think that it was one of those where it's like just remember differently. I could definitely see Marge acting like she made more of an effort to invite her. What I imagine actually happened is Marge like in passing was like, oh yeah, we might get together or later like before the reunion.

And that was it. I will say that Marge was petrified. though. Dude, she was terrified. Going after her. She is very scared of Dolores. That was Dolo from Patterson. Oh, yeah.

You don't fuck with Dolo from Patterson. That was the Patterson came out and Marge got scared. She was scared. She was scared. Fessler was secondhand scared in the background. She was gripping a pillow. She was holding on to that pillow for dear life while she was going through all of that. Like I don't know if I can't do anything around here.

But no, look, I mean, Marge lied through her teeth most of this episode. I feel like everything that she said was a contradiction to what she had said. earlier. The timeline gets fucked up. The timeline is completely fucked up. I pointed out because I actually had to scroll back because I wanted to make sure that she didn't misspeak. But she tells Dolo during all of this.

Yeah, you know, I talked to the X a little bit here and there. It was just DMs. Okay. Right. If it was just DMs, then why later in your confessional did you say,

I called her immediately? So you do call her. And this was 10 days ago. So while you're talking about you have your number, you know? Exactly. The whole thing is complete fucking bullshit. once again large is large marge is lying like i keep thinking of large marge from um peeve's playhouse but no um marge was lying through her teeth this entire episode she knows so much more she was

definitely talking to that x way more wouldn't be surprised if there's other people she's talking about fucking family members it's the whole thing is it is it just stinks it just stinks of lying it definitely great's the high hell yeah and it was fucking great finally like we get some real shit the sink our teeth into on the last episode of the actual series but hey go out with a bang i suppose but they do set the stage for this last rights dinner that they're going to have where everybody gets to sit across the room and as soon as i heard that was the setup i'm like they know that this is over the production knows this is over the cast now this is it like you get one chance to say your piece and that's a wrap we're done with this show or at least with

this original cast we're going to move on from some of you at the very least if not not all of you. So as soon as they set it up, that way, I'm like, okay, so they all knew the writing was on the wall.

Production did it as well. So that's, this whole thing is an homage to, here's your last chance. Like this is Jersey's finest. We're going to pit you against your rival and say whatever you want. And that's the other thing too. And I'm not,

obviously, I'm not jumping to the end here, but the way that they all walked in, that was like they were dressing up as Jersey Housewives for Halloween. It was like the mob wives. the mob wives but that's you know they used to dress like that in the earlier seasons so it's almost like they were trying really hard to make this the one last jersey hurrah let's go all in girls and just do it but they can't get it out of their own way so it was never going to work in the

first place but you know i guess you know a forever maybe it worked it worked for me i i enjoyed it i'm not going to lie but this next scene you get daniel futa and melissa and we find out that uh john potentially swallowed a little bone. That's what we've, that's what we've gathered, because he's not allergic to anything. And I'm like, oh,

well, maybe Louis poisoned him. I don't think that actually had. They all came together and they're like, well, does anybody know where that bone marrow was before? Where did you get it from? Is there any chance that Louis came over

and just poisoned that thing? Because I could see it happening. He's got it out for me. Yeah, Louis, Louis poisoned the bone marrow somehow. Yeah. They would actually have that conversation.

No, obviously, I don't think that happened for the record. Let me just get that out there now. I don't think that's what happened. But I would love to know if that came up at all. But they do the Teresa's attorney recap. That's what everyone does in the preamble of this episode. We're going over everything. And again, the big reveal from Teresa was like, yeah, Marge was talking to the exes, this and that.

And Melissa's like, all of Louis X's have reached out to all of us to the point where I was at a conference or a dinner. or something and one of Louis's nieces from his last marriage or two men i don't know how many times this dude's been married but one of his ex's kids or his niece whatever the fuck was like hey i heard you're involved with louis like be extra extra careful or be super worried something be afraid afraid was about sorry be very afraid i did write it out be very afraid the first off one that's that's got to be a top 10 list of things that did not happen I'm sorry, Melissa, but that doesn't fucking happen. There's no chance that his niece came over and stopped you and said,

hey, you're on that housewife show that Louie's a part of now with his new wife. You should be very afraid. Okay, sure, Melissa. Yeah, we'll take your word for it on that one. Who the hell cares? Yeah, that's the biggest thing. It's like, who cares? But they do talk about Teresa and how she's visibly stressed out.

They're like, she weighs 90 pounds soaking wet. She appears to be hanging by a thread. Melissa's like, you know, I am concerned. or there's some concern. There's some things going on. We've already voiced our opinion as to what's going on. And I think that's a resounding agreement. There is resounding, like a lot of people,

despite the Looney Tunes that we have to deal with frequently on this show and the comments, most people are like, yeah, duh. We can all point in like the same direction as to who's the fucking problem here. And he's red and mad a lot. It's that guy. Okay. It's that fucking guy. But anyway.

Danielle still wants to be friends with Jen. She still wants to somehow work her way through this because they were tight early on. She actually gravitated towards Jen before she saw who she actually was, which watched the show, and I could have told you that. I don't know where. We got to

watch tape. You got to watch film. Check the tape before you come on this show. So you know what you're getting into. We saw last year, Daniel was not prepared. She came in unprepared last year. Got smoked and then had a different approach this year. Tried her best. I can't knock her for that she did try but we'll keep trucking here and you know you get that quick scene

with daniel and her family and she's trying to figure out her shit with her dad it sounds like they're moving forward we're not going to dive into that because there's still nothing to talk about there's nothing to talk about and like it just pisses me off every single time that it happens like that way i had a big problem with this and it's not what you think it is so they were talking about using the code words because they don't want the kids to be upset when they're talking about pup up because pop up is an angel in their eyes whatever okay well don't use co words for everything else you're talking about jane being or you're talking about when you walked out of that party and saw bill aden said you're married to the devil you're okay with talking about

another woman and her life in front of your children but you won't do this it just goes like it just pisses me off when things like that happen i'm not supporting either side in this but like seriously right in front of your kids don't start talking about somebody else's marriage or another wife or anything like that that's fair wow you don't usually get up up in arms about stuff like well i'm so pissed off about the Danielle situation because there's very clearly something that you're not telling us. And yet you're trying to do this whole thing where you're trying to make your storyline about how your family's falling apart. And then you're going to get upset when somebody points out that you don't talk to your family. Like there's more here. There's way more here.

And it could be really entertaining and it could be very much, I don't know, you might be able to get back with your family if you use this and you try to reach out to them. I don't know. There's a lot of things that could be going on right now. I'm just getting sick and tired of her talking about how she's like falling apart from her family or dad chose her brother like okay what happened chose him why you know that would make a big difference in this whole thing as far as garnering support if we knew what the ins and outs were as to why anybody was selected over anybody it's just he said she said she said but it's he said she said she said about something we do not know about and you can't do that for two years it doesn't work you need to tell people you need to open up yeah open up

and then let people decide where they fall. You can't just say, woe is me without any evidence. That's all. It doesn't track. It doesn't make any sense. This might be unfair, but the more that she talks about it,

the more I think she's the problem. But you're talking about you're trying to guard her sympathy from the audience, but you're not telling us what happens. I'm starting to think that you did something and you're not trying to tell us. Then why are you bringing it to the limelight? Like, it just doesn't make sense to me. Agreed. And that's the whole thing.

It's like if you do not give information all we are, left to do is speculate. And when we speculate, it's going to start to turn towards you because that's all we know about. We don't know the brother. We don't know the dad very well. So we're going to start to point the finger. If you do not give more, that's what ends up happening every single time in these shows. You got to give a little bit at least.

But moving on, we get to Louis and Teresa. And, you know, Louis is giving her the pregame and like chit chat, what their strategy is going to be. So how are you going to navigate March? She's like, I don't know. I'm not very strategic, which is like, yeah, okay. No, we know. She's not strategic. I don't think she is at all.

I think she tries to be, but she's so reactionary that all strategy goes out the window immediately. She might be able to sit down with Louie before these things and be like, hey, yeah, maybe I go about it this way or that way or whatever. She talks to G or her kids or whatever. But when the shit hits the fan, she flips out and will just lose complete control. She's not strategic in the moment, no, because she will always get amped up. She is definitely strategic behind the scenes. She's definitely moving pieces and

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Fuck you, dude. What a lunatic. You're going to sit there and actually wish ill on her son. He's not on the fucking show. He has nothing to do with this. Point your finger at Marge and say, I hope that she suffers. It's still fucked up. But at the same time, at least she's part of the game.

How the fuck are you going to point your finger at a kid and say, I hope that he suffers. And I know he's 20, whatever, but still, grow the fuck up. I think that anybody that falls for his shtick is just dumb at this point. You can't watch that scene and say this is a reasonable, rational individual that is definitely a good influence on Teresa, who's incredibly impressionable and going to follow this guy anywhere. A normal spouse, somebody that would support somebody, be like, hey, this is going to be pretty sketchy going into this. Make sure you protect yourself. What are you going to go after Marge about? just at the end of the day make sure that you're protected like protect your he'd be focused on

teresa not trying to hurt other people and his whole pregame speech is about inflicting as much harm on other people as humanly possible and then he wants to sit there in a fucking stupid shirt that has something to do with namaste or transcend transcend transcend these nuts you asshole like that's the dumbest shit ever like both of them are the walking contradictions and I'm so glad that they are potentially not back on our screen because I'm sick of it. I'm sick of the fact that we can sit here and talk about anybody, post it, do whatever. People take it in stride. They understand that this is tip for tat.

This is what we do. They perform on the show. We talk about it. But God forbid you talk about Louis. His bots were all over our fucking comments. His fucking burners were all over our comments. We're not dumb. Clearly, it's you or somebody you know or somebody pointed at us.

It's not even fucking kind of hidden. So grow up. You're on a show. If you weren't such an asshole, people wouldn't come after you. There's a reason everyone points the finger. And it's this fucking scene. This is why. Peel back the mask.

There he is. Hello. It was Louis the whole time. Who the fuck would have thought? Yeah, I mean, I would like to personally congratulate all of the people that came for me in the comments last week when I went on my Louis rant. all those losers out there all you fucking morons god you guys are such idiots

there were so many articles written about how terrible of a person he is this week but last week let's go after your poor old shooter magooter over here just calling it like it is this guy's just sitting here calling dudes assholes and he is

an asshole how the fuck are you going to sit here and preach all this love in the love bubble and oh my God I love my family so much would never hurt a fly and then you say that on camera you can say like obviously it's fucking horrible but have the wherewithal to maybe say that off camera like what did you think was going to happen you're going to say shit like that on there and everybody's going to be like oh yeah fuck marge we're totally on your side louis like is he he's delusional and he's a piece

of shit and he proved that he's a delusional piece of shit he shouldn't be on tv he's very clearly a con man a piece of shit and he just showed everybody who he is And there's still going to be assholes out there that are supporting him that are watching that scene. We'll listen to us and comment on our videos saying, you guys don't know the whole story. Marge really pushed him. And look, I understand. Do I think that Marge talked to his ex? Yes, a thousand percent.

She said that she did. And she has no shame in doing that. Is that super fucked up? Absolutely. It's disgusting behavior. Why are you reaching out to some dude's ex to get dirt on him so that you can use it against somebody that you don't like anymore? That's fucked up. You're also a vile human being.

We've always said that Marge sucks. She's a terrible person. Marge can suck and Louie can suck. We're not on a team here. We're just pointing out people that fucking blow. And that's the two of them right there. So there you go. Louis blows a lot more than Marge does right now,

but Marge is still a terrible person. But we're still going to be labeled as fans of somebody. No matter what, no matter how many times we rip into everybody in this goddamn show that we fucking hate, by the way. We're not on a team. We don't like anybody. I can't say that enough.

Fessler was the last man standing. she's fucking out so we do not have allegiance we have not pledged fealty to anybody yep okay and somebody commented like oh what were the gift cards for it's like we haven't gotten gift cards or been offered bribs gift cards for the love we would take them that's the thing there will be signs if we get paid trust me you'll be like oh wow they're really supporting somebody we're the best we don't do that we've never done that for anybody so uh it's just it's And the other part that it just makes me smile when that shit starts to go crazy and it did and it's starting to pick up steam again right now, actually. But they don't even realize that we're baiting them.

Do you think that we post that shit without understanding what's about to come our way? Like we do it intentionally so that you out yourselves as idiots and time and time again. To make it clear, we do actually think these things. We just know that by saying them and posting them, that the idiots will come out of the woodwork and they do every time without fail for this show and even on the one where i called them out i called them out i said this fucking fan base ruins the show they still commented i'm like dude did you that was a layup i set it up and you fucking slammed it down oh i mean they do it from their they do it from their faceless

twitter accounts where they have yeah teresa from season nine a picture of her doing something and like 40 followers, but 10,000 replies to all these people that don't agree with them. Or they find other things. Like, they're just sitting in there typing in keywords all day on Twitter. Like, oh, I got to get involved in this. I got to get involved to this. Like, get out of your mom's basement. Yeah, get a life.

Move on. Anyway, that takes us to the Rails lunch. And, I mean, we got a quick scene with Joe and Melissa, which is the same thing that Louis and Teresa were saying. Which is whatever, yeah. We're not going to reconnect is all that you get from both of those things. There's no resolve resolution coming in our future. We're done. So that takes us to the rails lunch and you get this flashback of happy moments as they're walking in it.

And they're dressed either as mob wives or a funeral. Jen Aiden, quote unquote, dressed for a party. I thought she was deplorable this scene, but also funny. Like at least she leaned into the shit. I can appreciate that. but the music for the walk-in was just like this heavy metal like hard rock kind of shit and it was just setting the stage for like a walk-up song where it's like everyone's getting amped welcome to rails we're about to get heavy so actually the production value again if this

whole season was like this they might have had another season afterwards but teresa arrives last and acts like she's surprised that she arrived last. It's like either you did that intentionally or production told you. Production did it. We know how the arrivals work. They stagger them. They pick who goes first and who goes last and everybody in between. So it'll act like you're surprised that you're the last one.

And this is really important to point out. This is so important to point out. And Dev pointed this out to me. When she walks in and sees who she's sitting across from, March, she goes, I can't sit across from you. You're going to end up. wearing this pointing to her dinner plate okay she acknowledges that i will probably throw this at you at some point because i hate you that much and then when daniel has a similar reaction and throw

something at jan aiden now teresa's holier than now high and mighty like why would you do that never resort to violence like you walked in the room and prefaced it with i cannot sit here because i will resort to violence we've also seen you resort to violence in the past so for her to then have this high and mighty approach towards Daniel. It's like, we don't do that. I'm like, you of all people don't get to say that. Because you walked on which side of the table you're sitting on.

Well, whatever. I don't care what side of the table you're sitting. No, I'm saying if Jen had done that to Danielle, who Danielle and Teresa are supposedly. Oh, yeah. She wouldn't have had a problem with it. She wouldn't have said anything. She would have just tried to calm them down and try to keep the peace or whatever the hell she's trying to do.

But she wouldn't have said, don't throw anything. And I don't think Danielle threw anything. She lunged across the table, which, you know, she pushed like, uh, that was the funniest thing is the lead up to this, people like she made contact with a pitcher. She threw it at her, hit her in the face. She might have pushed a picture at her and it like went in her direction and maybe it clipped her or something. But I was expecting a much more visceral violent reaction than that. I thought that she made full contact and there was like blood and like glass everywhere. It was too much. Okay. In this instance, I will definitely say Danielle shouldn't have gone that far.

There's no arguing that. She's snapped, but that's what Jen does so well. She's that kind of person. She knows exactly what to say and exactly how to twist it and then play nonchalant so that she's just aggravating the other person. She's very, very good at this. And she does a very good job of it here. As Danielle's trying to explain to her, this is why I'm upset, you know, the charity thing

and all that. But her whole intro and how she's talking to Jen, I'm like, well, if this is your approach and you want to have some kind of friendship after this, this is not the way to go about it. All you're going to do is piss her off. Then maybe that's your intention. That's fine.

If that's what you're trying to do, it's just dig and dig and dig, great. Then you did a good job. But if your intention was actually to have a friendship after this, you know that the words you're choosing and the way you're saying it is not going to result in that, especially with a person like Jen Aiden. yeah you would have thought that daniel would have come into this a little more prepared she was

tripping over her own words it seemed like at most times she didn't even know what she wanted to say maybe that's what her problem is i don't know because she seems to do that all the time jen i felt like played this perfectly i thought that i thought it was in at least in the beginning you know the last comment obviously the last comment always goes over the line for any of these fights but prior to that last comment i thought jem was hilarious i thought she was absolutely dressing Danielle down which was funny and Daniel didn't know how to handle it you would think by now Daniel would understand

how to handle this and she does not and she flipped the fuck out and you could tell immediately she started going for the low blows talking about the husbands talking about this and that talking about how there's no love in your house but there's love in my house like all right you lost you lost this battle immediately

I thought you did okay with you have 18 bathrooms in your house is empty I was like all right that's decent but here's the thing and this is you know just the way the game works if you go to husbands yeah she's going to come back at husbands now saying you know Nate with the man boobs fuck that and fuck you for saying that and then I love today there was a post about Nate I don't know if he saw that but Daniel like did a photo shoot for him he talked about how he was a heavier kid as a formerly heavy kid I appreciate

that and fuck Jen for saying you know the man boob comment because it may be his self-conscious and we should never go to talking about looks or talking about occupations as Teresa does well that's why you buried a plumber it's like fuck you you wouldn't have toilets in your house without plumbers lady so you're welcome I don't understand that kind of shit I don't understand body shaming ever I think it's like the cheapest way to attack anybody it's so there's no cooth yeah there's no cooth especially like I'm pretty sure Nate or Nate yeah Nate actually came out with some he went through some medical procedure he had some sort of issue i always forget the word because it's some

crazy medical word guy oh something or other so he actually had a real problem he's not just you know a frumpy looking guy and you just came after his looks he actually had a medical so yeah and he's also not a frumpy look and he's a handsome fella i understand going after him no yeah it's just those types and this is where the show is right now again i do think that it started off pretty well for jenn i thought that she really held her own against her daniel was spiraling, Danielle had to go low blow immediately. But it always ends that way. They're always going to go after the husbands or something that there's a rumor out there that

you did this. And then it just completely spirals out of control and there's nothing you can do to stop it. But again, Danielle, we talked about it. We talked about it last year. She does not know how to play the game. She can not remain cool. She can never get through a situation or a confrontation without freaking the fuck out and go and crying in a bathroom.

It gets too frazzled. And look, I mean, again, I'm in support of what. said talking about her family you keep bringing up your family and talking about how they're not there for you why why are you the reason because we're all starting to think that so i thought that was fair game too i think it's just those last couple comments it's just like now yeah a little too far but of course it's going to go too far because nobody's going to be able to stop them no and that's the whole point of this episode is this is it so get your licks in now but we get the pitcher toss or whatever the lunge across the table which again too much shouldn't have done it she got

under your skin and in that moment you concede as well i mean you were losing anyway but that's a full concession yeah jen wins that altercation but melissa takes the opportunity to jump up immediately and go because teresa's trying like no you don't do that she's like yeah she learned from you white trash i was like oh and then she's going back to like whore whore white trash blah i was like i'm here for this i like this keep going keep going i've been waiting for you two to square off all goddamn season so at least you're actually talking to each other now you're not really getting any funny shit in no but just the repeating more over and over again was just classic teresa and you know where you've been where you've been hiding maybe if you were doing this more

often rather than faking this namaste bullshit the show would be more fucking interesting instead you phoned it in for the past three years yeah but i also don't like that and this is one of our golden rules can't bring the kids into it melissa immediately going i'm going to i'm going to go tell Antonia that you think you think her mom's a whore, like, all right, leave the kid out of us. Like, no, this is between the two of you, not the kids. We've always said that. They've said that. How many fucking times have they said that in their separate family scenes talking about

how they're leaving the kids out of it and how sad it is that their aunt and uncle aren't going to be involved in any of this? Okay, then don't bring them into it immediately as soon as you feel like you need to. No, it's just stupid. Agreed. I agree. But Daniel gets the boot. She gets kicked out momentarily.

She's allowed to return later. Meanwhile, Jen is still hammering home. Husband's got the man boobs. It's like, all right, knock it off. Your husband's no catch either if we're going to play this fucking game. Nate's much more handsome. Your husband cheated on you. Like, come on.

Yeah. That's what you got to say. Meet the room, lady. Like, you won, by the way. Like, as far as this went, she flipped out and potentially push something in your direction. She got kicked out. The producers are in there trying to calm everybody down, which I think is complete bullshit. it because if anybody else was throwing stuff,

the producers would be like, oh, all right, yeah, we're going to try to clean this up. But, no, come down a little bit. Fucking whatever. But, yeah, the fact that Jen has to hammer at home is hilarious, because you are living in a glass house, lady, with 18 bathroom.

You're 18 bathroom glass house and your husband's living in the pool house. All right, let's not forget. We know where Bill hangs out, okay? Oh, yeah. The only place that he hangs out in your house is when you're filming, he sits at that little couch at the end of the bed. So you can see. up a scene. Yeah, the cut couch. He sits on the cut couch. You set up a scene for him. He

pretends to be interested. Then he goes and rips a fat blunt in the pool house and goes to sleep to avoid you. So yeah, you're right. Once you win, walk away. Let it simmer. You don't have to do anymore. Take the win. That's what the ladies of Jersey need to have like, you know, they have like signs written everywhere in my clubhouses and stuff. That's what they need. Take the win. Walk away. and take the win. It would work out so much better, but they all stick their foot in their mouth.

But Fessler can't handle it. Fessler is over it. You guys are all used to this level of disgusting and I'm not, which actually that line I thought was really funny. I was like, yeah, you didn't realize what kind of depravity you were entering into.

This is the norm. This has been simmering for a while, but we've seen this for years, Vessler. Welcome to the show. This is nothing, by the way. So you're just not cut out for this. this life and that's okay you don't have to be but she leaves and i was like that sucks like at least stick it out you know if you're going to be part of the show a fucking idea i know it's

more dolores's idea but like you're co-hosting it and you're not even getting involved nobody's coming after you like what are you wearing about unless she's got something to worry about maybe she's gonna worry about who knows oh we'll never find out guess what who cares yeah that's a good point wow i didn't think about that one yeah because we don't need to know That's where I'll leave that one. But Marge and Teresa start to go. It's their turn now. And the timeline gets brought up again.

And she says, March 2022 was the first time I spoke to the X. That contradicts what she said to Dolo earlier. So that is already a chink in the armor immediately right out of the gate. And Dolos like, whoa, whoa, whoa, the story changed in a confessional. But the subpoena comes up. I guess she did get subpoenaed because she didn't deny that. Yeah. I guess I don't understand how subpoena is going to.

I still don't really get that. Yeah. Yeah, I don't understand how they work. I thought that was mandatory, but hey, what the fuck do we know? We don't claim to be lawyers here, nor have we ever, despite what you may think. But she brings up that the only reason I spoke to her was because I found out that you were speaking to Laura, which once again is so black and white, you're doing the same goddamn thing. How are you so up in arms? And now your husband, the peace guy, is wishing ill will and harm on martyrs's entire fight.

family but you're doing literally the same exact thing you don't see the hypocrisy there this whole show is built in a glass house on a glass island in glass world that's that's where we're at now is glass world in pot calling the kettle blackland okay all right okay i don't have any more uh things you didn't want to go to like the universe level or anything no no because i what's another one for being a hypocrite. Pot calling the kettle black, glass house, and that's rich coming from you.

Yeah. And that's rich coming from you, universe. Rich coming from the universe. Oh, that's rich coming from the universe. There we have. Okay,

we'll take that. I'll take that. Me too. I feel better now. This is when Jackie decides to chime in, and she should have just kept her mouth shut from what we're about to find, out shortly. She chimes and goes, last year was a takedown. I wasn't going to say anything

because I was there. And, you know, I wasn't friends with Teresa, but now I'm part of the cool kids club. And let me just say this right now. Last year was a total take down. I didn't believe that either. Like, do I think they got together and discussed strategy? Yeah. Do I think that it was like, we're going to fucking skewer Louis. I think the strategy was we're going to go after Louis because we think that he's doing this, this, this and this. And let's bring it to light. But as we pointed out last year during our reunion episode, they had all these fucking files and like they basically rolled an entire cabinet in there a bejeweled cabinet and they didn't open at once marge was rifling through papers at one point in time not one person

gave andy one piece of evidence how many times have we seen somebody hand andy a paper hey andy read this no so you guys had a lot nothing came out so what was the whole point in any of this i have no idea i still don't know what it is but that's where she drops the line you're full of shit that's why you married a plumber i was like leave joe out of it leave plumbers out of it again you wouldn't have toilets and bathrooms without plumbers so i'm that everybody gets so upset to like the entire other side of the table was pissed off that she said what's wrong with plumbers what's wrong plumbers like i like they did that yeah but they i don't know it just kind of takes away from it i just wanted to get to the point i agree but not wanted to get to the point that's fine but i don't like

that kind of shit i don't like talking down like it's just dumb like take a different approach it's just annoying to me, but it gets to the point where now Teresa is saying that, you know, Marge, maybe Marge was behind the Fudda's investigation last year. Like, maybe they got Bodeo. It's like, stop it. Like, stop it. And then Fuda gets upset. She goes, don't talk about my husband. She keeps repeating it. And then Teresa pulls a five-year-old movement goes, you started it. Like, oh, we're there now. To be fair, Fuda talks about Louie every chance that they get. That is all they talk about. That's been. their storyline all year.

So don't get, you can't get mad that somebody's talking about your husband. You're talking about their husband the entire time. Again, hypocrisy. I agree. Yeah. But I will never, ever be okay with the you started at line. I think that is the most childish approach to any kind of argument. This whole show, this whole show is a you started at line.

You started it line. Who started it anyway? Whose line is it anyway? Yeah, there go. You started it anyway. right way and brady oh i just serried my computer somehow how did that happen that's weird jesus started anyway right but oh i just serri my computer so now that happened to jesus oh god now you're going to be in a loop if you keep reading it you're going to get stuck in a loop i'm reading my syri now

what did jesus start it's not going away can you hear me now yeah i can hear you the whole time oh you could i thought it was great that was lovely there you go everybody That was a great sidetrack. Reprieve for you. But this is where it comes in. Here it comes. And this was a bomb. This was a great bomb.

And this is a great way to go out, honestly. And Marge starts talking with the Warrior video. And she's like, yeah, it came from you. And she says, even Jen. Oh, this is it. The day you finally ask for that big promotion. You're in front of your mirror with your Starbucks coffee. Be confident.

Assertive. Remember eye contact. But also, remember to blink. Smile, but not too much. That's weird. What if you aren't any good at your job? What if they dim out you instead? Okay, don't be silly.

You're smart, you're driven, you're going to be late if you keep talking to the mirror. This promotion is yours. Go get them. Starbucks. It's never just coffee. Oh, hi, buddy. Who's the best? You are.

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Mike and Tom, eat snacks. Wherever you get your podcast. Unless you get them from a snack machine, in which case, call us. call it. Or no, sorry. Marge starts talking about the warrior video. She's trying to get something out. And this makes me believe that Jen knows what's coming.

Jen knows what's about the drop, or at least she thinks she knows what's about the drop, because she's like, Teresa, let her finish, let her finish. It's like, maybe there's more here. And she lets out one of the biggest bombs we've gotten in a long time from any show, honestly. And she says, Jackie had Louise X. at her house and it's like the whole room's like what and it was 2021 jacky's like are you out of

your mind she's just denying everything marge says she found out found out last week when she called the x and she got the timeline and she's got the screen shots to back it up the exact date of contact was february 25th of 2021 Melissa then chimes in and says Jackie If this is true, there's going to be proof. You should probably come clean, and she outs herself instantly. She goes, all right, I had her over. I had her over. But like, we were friends at the time and, like, you were going after my husband.

But what we can surmise from this, Jackie was behind all of it. Jackie was the reason that things were coming out about Louis in the social media, in the paper. You name it. Jackie was the one that was pushing the needle because she was mad that to, Teresa was coming for her husband. And rightfully so, by the way, because she was trying to say that Evan cheated on you. So, yeah, there's plenty there. You have a reason to attack her.

What I don't like is you then try to buddy, buddy with Teresa. In that moment, just big, yeah, fuck you at the time. Like, we're cool now, but I was really pissed at you. This approach that she takes is terrible. It's terrible. And I'm like, oh, Teresa's going to fucking hate her. Teresa does not have an issue with it. She gets it.

She totally gets it. And then she goes to her confessional, and she starts talking about how she understands it. Jackie was in a bad place. She thought that me, Teresa, was spreading rumors about the cheating scandal. So I fully understand it. But I was doing that from a place of love. Were you? Where are you?

No. No. You fucking weren't. This is what I think. And you can tell me if you agree or disagree. I think that Marge found out earlier than that, like a while ago. Like, definitely not 10 days ago. says her a week ago. I think that Marge realized that and she realized I could use this as a

smoke screen because nobody likes Jackie. Jackie has alienated everybody in this cast. Teresa is clearly using her. I know that because I used to be friends with Teresa. Remember that? Marge and Teresa used to be friends? How about that? Yeah. So, yeah, I know that Teresa's using her at this point in time. I can throw her under the bus, create a huge smoke screen and I can talk to Louis X as much as I want. I can sit over here and get as much dirt as I want to use. at my will, whether she's peddling that to content creators, as we already know that the entire fucking cast is, of course she probably is. But at the end of the day, I can just blame Jackie and everybody's going to say, whoa, was Jackie doing all of this? Because Jackie probably was

doing that. Now everybody's doing it. Now you realize, holy shit, this entire cast is just spreading rumors online about each other. And that's how we got to where we are. Yes. Period. But Jen Aiden clearly wants Teresa to be mad at Jackie. She's like, all right, kick her. out of the friend group now because she's not one of us. She's not worth it. She's saying things like maybe Teresa hasn't, you know, it hasn't sank in yet or she didn't hear her and she doesn't fully

grasp that Jackie was the one. Because Teresa, anybody that talks ill about Louis ever, you can say that he doesn't smell good and she's going to lose her fucking mind. She had a smear campaign against your husband. You have no problem with that

whatsoever, but Jen says it perfectly. The actual answer is, if she goes in on Jackie and kicks Jackie out of the group, says, fuck you, Jackie, in some way, shape, or form, Marge wins. And she cannot allow Marge to get any kind of upper hand. And I think that if she acknowledges Jackie's part in it and acknowledges that she's mad at Jackie, it takes some of the umph off of Marge and Marge kind of gets a pass. And I think that that's her not allowing Marge to win and would rather not secede to

Jackie but almost just be like yeah whatever you're you're also pretty irrelevant so I don't really fucking care and now you have no friends yeah I think it's a lot of Jackie's completely relevant and nobody cares what she does or thinks she's not a good source of information Marge is the one that I want to take down

I've been fixated on taking down March this entire season and probably for years at this point so yeah this doesn't change anything I'm still going after March now again there is a semblance of truth to this that Teresa said now nothing's going to matter nobody's going to care what Teresa says to March.

Marge can immediately say, why are you still coming after me? I just gave you this. Jackie just admitted it. You should be going after her. Marge is Scott-free at this point. She's good. She's clean.

Nobody's going to go after her for now. We'll see what happens at this weird, weird reunion that we're going to get next week. I don't fucking know. But Marge was still doing things. She just isn't as big of a villain in everybody's eyes right now as Jackie is. So she gets to go away from this. So it just doesn't matter.

Marge immediately wins once she drops that bomb. And good play by March. That's a great play by Mars. And way to keep it close to the chest until the end of the season. It was a good play without a doubt. And it caught Teresa off guard. And I think it caught everybody off guard because nobody expected Jackie. Nobody suspected her the whole time.

And that's my whole point with how Jackie played it. Lean into it. Fucking lean into it and make a name for yourself. You've been waiting to be relevant for so long. Here's your chance. You were successful. and you hit it from everybody you got away with it now you can just be like ha got you bitch yeah i came after you because you came after my husband we're cool now if you want to be but if not

whatever now you know that i was the one behind it ha ha ha criminal mastermind go fuck yourself that would have been baller that would have been so sick but instead you get this awkward ass scene where she's trying to leave and she's walking out and notices that some of the other castmates are out in the parking lot and you get this really awkward jacking up from it. It was so embarrassing. It's like that's going to be your last hurrah on the show is you taking four steps back from the actual group because you're too soft to go after anybody and be like, yeah, that was me.

Take pride in it. That's a big move. You got the wool over both Marge and Teresa for a long time and they're digging after everybody and you had them. So lean into it. Be like all of you didn't expect. me you thought i couldn't do it and i got over on all of you mic drop walk away take the win but no you want to still be friends with this person who doesn't like you by the way has admitted to

using you as a pawn and people still think teresa's a good person when she's openly admitting that she's using people in her life to try to get marge to get taken down but whatever it's a different time different story i don't care anymore but jesus jacky you had your shot it was right there who's right there for you to walk away from this franchise as a winner and instead you're backing away from the group awkwardly i might not and she even said that she was worried that teresa was going to find out for weeks and weeks and weeks and she did i'm actually glad you found out i'm actually glad you are you yeah sure whatever are you really if you were worried about it and maybe this is just how my mind works if you're worried about something you should be thinking about how to spin it how are you going to spin this when it eventually comes out you're on a housewife show you have the golden ticket to just be a complete and absolute terror of a villain you were handed this and he didn't take it terrible anybody else in

that room would have taken that and ran my god yeah yeah would have been so good that's it that's a house of villains right away like even when jersey's over you go to house of villains next year you get to continue your bravo thing nope not jacky nope she didn't have it in her she didn't have it in her when the time came to step up she literally backed up yep and that scene will probably be replayed over and over again because it was i i got the ick i was like oh dude at least walk out to your car like come on you can't back up now yeah but the whole season ends the whole series potentially ends with dolos saying this group's not a family anymore cue the flashback cue the memories and yeah that's a wrap that's jersey jersey is over this jersey is over this version of it at least so

yeah whatever we get next we don't know but it's over for now over for now and thank god this whole show is turned into such a fucking toxic mess and it's not even fun to watch this was the first time I've had fun watching the show in two years honestly yeah so at least there's that but uh let's get to some questions I don't know where my phone is so you're you question master oh back to the question master here we oh uh start this one off strong with uh Brooklyn Shelley why were there gift bags why were their gift bags parting gifts from bravo thanks for your service here's a gift card to the olive garden Did you notice during the episode when it went to black and white?

Yeah. I did. Well, wait, wait, maybe that was a deep cut. Maybe they know you're colorblind and like, I wonder a shooter noticed. Ah, damn it. Why does this look so clear? I can finally see this. From a maze cocoon, was that as explosive as expected?

No. No. Aside for like, obviously the bomb from Marge was huge. and pivotal to the ending episode, but I thought it was going to be more people throwing shit. Like, that's what they made it out to be. There was trash on the ground

and glasses broken everywhere. I thought it was going to be way more than that. And I was expecting a nine out of ten. That was like a six, maybe. From Megan Hubbard, Megan Hubbard, do you believe Marge was telling the full truth? No, does she have her?

No, she never has, never will. There's something in it that's true, and then the rest, is fabricated to fit her narrative. But that's this whole cast also, by the way. Yeah. From Anne, Anne Verone,

do you believe, or do you feel that Bravo is being irresponsible, putting evil Louis on TV after wishing evil on margin or sudden? No, I think that they were for the first time responsible by saying, hey, everyone that's rooting for this guy, here's what he actually says.

From Joey Melch, on a scale of nine to ten, how terrifying would it be to have Dolores screaming at you. 10. Yeah, I would have been scared, too. That she's, dude, yeah, there's some people we don't fuck with and Dolo is one of them. It's always the ones that don't get amped up often.

So when they do, you're like, oh shit, she's actually pissed. Uh, from Sarah Shears, magic wand, you're the executives of Bravo. That's a hell of a wand. I'd love that. Uh, what do you do with Roanjay? Oh, Rikas. whole thing full full recast i i think it's a year off and then full recast it from mike bros did steal implode watching this finale steel enjoyed it i did yeah i did actually so no mike

thanks for thanks for thinking of me though pal appreciate you i imploded watching the house of dragons finale oh yeah that's for sure we'll talk about that one tomorrow a lot of statements a lot of statements coming from people not questions it says ask questions come on this is weird uh from nini b 91 who would be your ideal recast for the reboot i'd love to see snooky join the show oh wow i actually wouldn't not against that at all yeah i actually love that idea snooky get jowow in there bring back uh angelina uh who else you know what fuck it bring back all the women from the jersey shore and cast them i'm so down for that why not and um this one to finalize it because i don't know if you know this yet but um from a jj 265 did people let you know

what specifically they enjoy about this season because we did ask them last week they did a few people did they said that the drama was fun they said that teresa a lot of them were clearly teresa people they were saying that teresa is bringing it like and that's the other thing there's like i was reading a few tweets and stuff as i was scrolling through just reactions to this episode and everyone's saying like there is no storylines without teresa it's like yeah that's the point because the storylines are boring as shit and they all are centered around her that's the problem actually no one's denying that she's taken center stage time and time again is the fact that she has to take center stage about the same shit and we continue to talk about it that is the problem no one's saying that she's not the

driving force she's getting gets her credit where credits do sure the point of that is it's a tired fucking storyline nobody wants to watch it anymore except for tree stumps and they're going to sit there and die on that hill forever that she is the show great she maybe she was but that show just died so what does that tell you and people don't want to watch it anymore the general population the majority of us are sick and tired of this shit that's why the show is not coming back in the same capacity because of that it's the same reason that everyone got up in arms that roney got rebooted it's like well you stopped watching the fucking oh geez they're going to keep them on if you're watching the show and if people are talking about in a positive way if the fan base is shitting on it

constantly and you stop watching it it's going to go away so that that i never ever ever will understand those arguments it's like yeah okay she was the main point the show sucks so you're just saying that her storylines are boring you're agreeing with us by not agreeing with us there you have it folks one more bud deals breakdown of the season yeah we'll have to uh look i mean we'll be back next week to do whatever the hell they're doing i don't know who the fuck i don't know what it's going to look like we might just uh go back and forth for a little while and reactions who knows we'll find out stay tuned i don't know stay tuned for whatever the fuck we're going to get i'm i'm so over this goddamn show i'm so over

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