Bros & Shows - RHOP Heads to Colorado (RHOP Full Recap)

Episode Date: January 6, 2026

What's up Bros? First and foremost, we could not be more excited to get back to the BravBros. In this episode the ladies prepare to head to colorado. at Monique's book release, she shows she can still be shady when she pulls out some binders. Ashley's mom announces that her boyfriend is headed to treatment. Once we head to Colorado, Angel seems to be in high spirits. She even has a funny bit by sticking Ashley and Gizelle in a tiny double bed room. But she is still missing the mark. As Wendy says... she's just a wet blanket. Will she do enough to salvage a second season? Doubtful... but time will tell. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Well, we are here to talk about Potomac today, but we have one very big announcement that we need to make before we do that. And for those of you that have been here for a long time, you'll understand what's coming next. For those you that aren't, wait till after the intro. We'll talk to you then. As there's a drive in a deep left field by Castellanos. Oh man, it's 8 o'clock. And so that'll make it a... I don't need the spotlight.

I shine just fine. Hi, I'm karma. And yes. I am a bitch. Brov bros. Good evening, everybody. Welcome back to another episode of the motherfucking braf bros. We are back.

Joined as always by the OG brav bro himself shooter, Brov Brov Magguter. What's up, dude? God, it feels so much better like this. I know. I feel like myself again. I didn't like that. Bros and shows.

What was that about? What was that show about? listen we tried we did something we tried to do something with it we both hated it it wasn't our vibe we tried to make it work we tried to lean into it at the end of the day we are your braf bros we always have been we always will be not to mention everyone still called us that anyway except for the people that started listening after the fact so we wanted to go back and we've been talking about this for six months seven months yeah we've changed the name yeah pretty much since we changed the name like a week later we were like what do we just do i don't care for this um but it is

really funny too because you would think after maybe a month or two of people talking about the podcast not even just like online or to us online on social media but also in person when people are explaining like oh yeah this is shooter he has a podcast i even would say braf bros and then i like it's just it's annoying it's almost like how do i put this it's like when you go back to like a high school reunion and you got married and your name has changed or you're hyphenated and then you have to explain to them like no my maiden name was this or something like that's kind of where we were but we were in that for a turtle limbo and i didn't care for it it never got to a point where it's like no yeah that's a recognizable name we were always brab bros we're still

brob bros uh we were just wearing a shirt and now we ripped that shirt off yeah we tore that bitch and half. It's time to return to our roots. What got us here and what we resonate with, honestly. That's how I identify. It's how we've always identified. And now it's just official again. And I can't wait to see that logo, that beautiful logo back in the charts right there, the intro. I love Cassidy's back. Like, oh, my God. It just, this is how you start a new year off. Everybody. It sure is. This is how you start it. A great way to start. And another great way to start is Potomac because that's what we're here to talk about today. This is one of the funny situations and you think you have an idea of why you feel this way. But we do this all the time.

One of us will be like, you know, an episode. It was okay. It just kind of progressed a couple of things we had to get here. The other one's like, fuck you. I love that show. I absolutely love this episode. I am weirdly the one who really enjoyed this episode. I, we talked about it before we started recording. We were so giddy about the name change going back. back to brawl bros that we we chatted for a while before this this happened but i chalked it up to similar to the return to the office after the holidays it's the first time i've taken notes in a while so i think that's why maybe i didn't appreciate it for what it was looking back through my notes reliving the whole thing i think i enjoyed it more than i initially let on uh so that's what's

beautiful about you know having your brain and my brain the other thing that's very funny about that even just like going back to the brabros thing i said last week i wanted structure i go to the office for one day i didn't do real work we just got our name back that's what that's what happens i go to the office for one day i'm like fuck this go back to the old name we're doing it right now this is what happens so i did get structure back but it was really just me not being on my couch or like in my my home office i was in an office that i don't like being at and instead I redirected that energy over this way, and also to Potomac in some way, because that was a little escape.

That's, that's just being pragmatic. You know, it's making the most of your time. What are you going to work? The job I get paid to do? You know, fuck out of here. That sounds boring as hell. But let's jump into this episode because there's a lot to discuss. There's not a lot of scene changes, which is always interesting to me.

That's one thing I do when I'm done in episode as I look at the amount of scene changes, and that usually tells you, weirdly enough, it usually correlates to a good or bad episode, which is the first time I've really thought about that. But not a lot of scene changes, a lot happening, a lot of subtleties. I think there was a lot of body language in this one.

There's a lot of unspoken tensions going on, I think. Mainly with one person driving all of it, and that's what's getting frustrating with the angel of it all. It's now getting to a point that it's derailing the rest of the show. It's really funny, though, too, because I found myself about halfway through this episode, I think the way that I handle thinking about Angel is scene by scene because she hasn't really gotten to a point as a newbie where, you know,

Tia has settled it. And when I think about Tia, I think about the rest of the cast. I think about how she's become friends with the rest of the cast. For some reason, because of where Angel is, anytime she does something, I'm sort of looking at it a different way where I'm like, all right, you're making a stride. You're doing something new. You're trying something new. Maybe this one will stick.

And I don't know why I'm doing that because I don't really enjoy watching her, but I'm still in the back of my brain giving her that first person chance. Like, all right, this is your first time out here. It's your first rodeo. Maybe you got a shot here. And every time that she does something, it just kind of goes away and goes away and washes away. And at some point in the middle of this episode, I was on her side. And immediately she sends me so far away.

And we'll wait until we get there. but it's just really funny the way that she like the discourse around her in my own brain doesn't make a lot of sense much like the way that she's presenting herself i agree like there was moments in this episode where i was like all right that's that's a reasonable request or your reaction's reasonable but then again it's her inability to like have fun with it right everything's so serious that when shit pops off or she claps back or anything happens it's like i feel like i'm watching an actual person in real life getting reprimanded or talking shit versus Bravo.

It's like Wendy says it later on in the episode. That's how this group up, this is shade. This is what we do. Like it's not that serious angel. And even in that moment, she fucking storms off. So it's like, I don't know why. And I think it all goes back to the wag of it all. I do firmly believe that whatever team she was with the longest, I think she was the queen

of the wags, or at least that in her own eyes. And she was expecting to come into this group and come. kind of fall back into that. And it didn't go that way because this group of women is not going to be told what to do or who to follow. That's not how Potomac goes. That's why we love Potomac. I think because of that, she got rattled, frazzled, and now doesn't know how to act, honestly.

So she's trying to do what worked in the past, but it's not working with this group because they're not going to take her shit. So I think that she is now in this weird limbo of, I'm out of moves, but I'm not going to go back hat and hand. I don't know what to do. I guess I'm just going to double down, triple down, quadruple down, and see where I end up. Honestly, there was a path there where her doubling down could have worked, but she doesn't do herself any services. And I'm happy that Wendy said that.

I'm actually going to classify that as a fourth wall break because that's what we've been saying the whole time. That's what the rest of the fans have been saying the whole time. And now to see the cast actually react that way, this whole episode for me was sort of that realization where I do think, Giselle and Ashley, they gave her a couple of shots here and there. Yeah, the catfish thing is definitely old, played out. It wasn't good to start off with. But the way she reacted, it did warrant more jabs and more jabs. And in the last couple of episodes, I feel like everybody's just kind of backed off like,

okay, we know how you're going to react, we know what's going on, but we're gearing up for your trip. So you are going to be the center of our attention and you're going to be the center of discussions going into this. And I think we had that group realization like, fuck, you don't know what you're doing. and you can't handle this. And we're realizing that now, and it's almost better if we just kind of back off

or double down, depending on how we want to go. But it's not worth it for us to keep doing this with you unless there's a funny moment. And there were funny moments along the way in this episode that warranted it. But the rest of it's just like, God, we know now that you just can't handle this. And we don't even know how to handle you,

but we know you're not going to be on the show much longer, so who cares? The only thing that can save this season for me, and again, I firmly believe that she's a one of done, if she spirals and this trip is the start of her actual spiral now we've seen her quote unquote spiral throughout the entire season but she's still talking about shit that happened weeks and weeks and months ago if she fully spirals and loses it that'll actually be kind of entertaining i think that'll be funny just watching how the rest of the cast is handling

her now they don't really care it doesn't really matter nothing she's going to say or do is actually going to affect them they realize yeah we might be in for it this weekend But when we come back, we can just talk shit about her. And it's moved from shade and obvious jokes to we don't like you. And nothing you're doing is very enjoyable. You're an absolute wet blanket. I think Stacey said that in this episode. She's a full-on wet blanket.

She's just not fun to be around. But maybe Wendy said it. It's just not fun to be around. And you can see the rest of them. And it just depends on how they're going to handle it. If they're also not going to have fun, which I have full faith in this cast, that if we're going to have Angel not having any fun

and trying to dictate the trip, they're still going to have a good time and I know that's going to happen and that's just going to get to her even more. So if she has that full spiral moment over this trip, that actually might be enjoyable and that might be a chef's kiss to the end of the season for her.

We'll wait and see, but let's jump into the beginning of the episode before we get there. Love that we get to check in with Wendy giving a commencement speech. Nice job, Wendy. Kearna got a billboard. Greg is an Orioles fan.

So Greg would love me, by the way. Yeah. Still what I feel about him. His reaction to the billboard is, I, like, I thought he was hammered. And maybe he's just fumbling over his words

because he doesn't know what to say. But he's got like that champagne flute in his hands, the plastic one while you're outside, which is a good move always. Sitting out there just like, he wants to say, I'm really proud of you. And he has this whole long thing to say

and he's just kind of struggling through the whole thing. Incredibly funny. It also got me thinking, we should get a fucking billboard. Let's get a billboard. I've always wanted a billboard. billboard let's we'll put it on 95 brob pros are back no it's

for that what hold on let's for shit some games how much you think a billboard is yeah probably like for 15 days I would say it's like 2,500 premium highway billboard 5 to 10 grand for four weeks average static is 25 to 7

like you said smaller pollsters less traffic areas can be lower we should get one in just the most random fucking neighbor of downtown Kensington We just plaster our faces in K&A. That'll be great. Yeah, there would be just be a bunch of people doing heroin under our faces.

That would be awesome. And it's just us down there celebrating and taking pictures of it. That would be funny. That's a good moment. We should think about that. I don't think we should do that. I'm not against getting one. You could definitely talk me on board to that one.

Tia and her girls go over to their old house in D.C. Her old house, it was where her father was and a lot of memories there. This was just a nice scene, nothing really to dive into. But it's nice. And I think it shows that when we care about a housewife, I like these scenes. Like for Tia, I want to see this. Like, I was like, oh, this is kind of sweet. If Angel did this, I'm like, I don't care.

I'm on my phone. I actually don't believe that you ever lived here. You probably got evicted. You're not allowed back. on the premises, actually. Question for you, though. If somebody showed up and was like, I grew up here, I'd really love to see the house. Would you be as nice as Emily was?

Or would you be like, all right, like, yeah, I guess. I think it depends. Come on in. Like, I need some kind of proof. Like, for me, the cameras prove, like, you're coming in here with a TV show. Like, sure, come on. Yeah. If somebody says they lived here.

I'd be less inclined to do it. If they showed up with cameras, I'd get the fuck out of here. Oh, really? Well, I think for me that. They showed up the cameras. Well, only because it proves that, like, okay, she probably really did live here. I'm not letting some rando come scope out my house to come back and rob me. So the cameras, I think, give it authenticity.

I think it would depend on the circumstance. You know me. I'm a sentimental person. So if somebody knocked on the door, I was like, this is where I grew up. I'd probably be like, ah, get on in here, you rascal. We cook your dinner. I deadbolt the door right in front of them. I know.

You'd laugh and then shut the door. Yeah. You fucking kidding. I should have stayed here. You couldn't afford to stay here? Get out of here. Do you get evicted? I can smell the pore on you.

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She has been writing a book. She's having her unveiling later. And they start talking about Angel. Like is she coming to that party? They're laying out the groundwork of what this trip is going to be like. And this is where you get the wet blanket comment from from wendy from wendy i feel like we've been duped like this is all a lie

when you break it all down like i don't know what there would be to be excited about this trip i think if you know from a jazelle standpoint from an ashley standpoint this is a good recon mission because you can kind of test all of the lies right by the way not doing herself a lot of favors with the rental house an hour away as we'll talk about later, but they're setting the stage for, what are we thinking, ladies? And Wendy this season is the voice of the group, I would say. So once you're deemed wet blanket by Wendy, she has such an uphill battle to climb. I just don't see her, I don't see this trip going well at all. No, no, it's never going to go well, at least at the very least. I do think the majority of

the group shares that sentiment. You have a couple of outliers. Obviously, Kiara is. friends with Angel so she's going to try to have her back but we've seen what you're seeing her she's faltering yeah and like look I in the beginning of the season I did I didn't have an issue with it but it was worth pointing out that she didn't have her back when she was really going through it at this point I'm completely on Kearna's side for not having Angels back she is she's not a sinking ship her ship has already sunk she's already down by the Titanic what are you going to do you can't go down there and go do that I'm not going to make another submarine joke I already did that last. I was about to say she was on Ocean Gate. Yeah, I was going to do that again.

Yeah, using the fucking Xbox controller to get down there. Um, PlayStation. It was PlayStation. Okay, whatever. I got to get my controllers, right? But for Kiara, like, there's no reason to. I mean, you're still, I think she's in a better position now with the rest of the women, but she was at odds with a couple of them. Do you really want to aggravate people like Jiselle and Ashley when you've already kind of shown that you're a little erratic? You're going after Stacy pretty much alone. Like, Ashley and Zelle don't have your back, you're still very much a newbie. You still want to be ingratiated into the group. Tia's had great success just kind of flying under the radar and having a couple of good

moments here and there. That's the blueprint. That's the rubric for having a good first season. Kiarna is still very much on the hot seat. So do you want to tie yourself to Angel? Absolutely not. So when she doesn't have her back anymore, I'm rooting for Kiarna. I think that's the right move.

But if you're the rest of the women in this group, why would you think this trip is going go any other way usually you might think okay she's had a rough season maybe this is a good clean slate maybe we can do this and that and whatever but her behavior has been so wild and so all over the place and at times she's been very bitchy and very much a boss and she's trying to just wiggle her way into a seat of power within this group and it doesn't make any sense and at every turn she has the wrong answer she has the wrong move and we've explained multiple times that she could have gotten out of every single situation that she's been in, and she just digs herself a deeper hole. So if you're a Wendy, if you're Giselle and Ashley, you're probably at most unenthused

to go on this trip. And honestly, probably what you actually are is that you don't want to go, but you have to go because it's mandated for the cast. And that's sort of where you are. Like you're not excited to go on this trip. It's going to be weird. So what I got from it was this is an unspoken fourth wall break. Because these three think about the show.

in a broader sense. Like, Giselle goes into the season and navigates the season based on how the show's doing, like how she's performing, what's going on. Like, she is strategic.

Ashley is too. She's much more clumsy and she gets stuck on stupid shit, but she is trying to do things for the show. Wendy is all of those things. She is looking at the bigger picture. So I think they're also seeing a dud.

I think they're looking at Angel going, you're not bringing anything. Like, We're trying and yeah, we're giving you shade and yeah, we're throwing jabs at you. We're poking a little bit because we need you to step up and do your job and you're not doing your job. So this to me is almost a conversation where it's like, how are we going to salvage this trip because angels going to make it a total bummer? This whole thing's going to be the same shit we've seen because she's a one trick pony. So how do we enter this trip for the show, for the audience?

Because you know these three especially are thinking it from that lens. yeah they absolutely are and i do think this friendship gna is a little different but wendy coming into the fold here this very much felt like the og sit down yes let's map out the rest of the season let's map out the end of the season this is the last trip that we're going to go on let's try to figure this whole thing out and see what we can salvage from a show standpoint so i agree with you it's sort of like that unspoken fourth wall break where it's like okay we're all going to sit down because it's a bit of a mess and we don't know what to expect here let's at least try to get on the page and just try to be neutral maybe and try to have a good time or at the very least blow

the whole thing up so as long as they're having that conversation i think the show is in good hands yeah i agree i like that's the interesting thing about it all like even with angel kind of dragging things down and even with her taking up so much of the spotlight it's still good it's still a good show the rest of the cast is doing their job monique has been a great addition i'm glad she's back. Tia, obviously, we sing her praises all the time. Kiarna, you may not be team Kiarna, but she's given us some weird moments that I'm,

that I'm interested in, you know, and like watching her. Mostly great, centric, but yeah. Sure, but also, as you pointed out, watching her deviate from the initial plan of I'm going to be buddy, buddy with Angel. And now she's looking at the writing on the wall. And that's a positive thing. You're seeing a sophomore housewife look at the bigger picture and go,

I probably don't want to be on her team for my longevity on this show. So she's thinking like a housewife now. So that's a positive for me. I just think it's fascinating that there's so many other franchises we would be watching. And we'd be like, this fucking stinks. But that's not the case here. And I give a lot of that credit. I haven't agreed with Jiselle and Ashley with the whole Stacey thing all season.

And I'm not going to lump Ashley into this one. I give all credit to Wendy first, Stacey second. That's where I'm looking as far as how this season has continued to thrive. this was actually a really bad Giselle episode. I know. A terrible Giselle episode. And because Angel is such a train wreck,

no one's really going to talk about that. So when we get to that scene a little bit later and even the scene at Monique's thing, Gisle is not performing very well. Shrattled. She's rattled. Yeah, we'll get into that shortly. Here's a great example.

Great example, okay? Because it's not just if you're an OG, we care about your family scenes. Because we go over to Ashley's. Who cares about. well well i cared about i cared about him going to treatment i thought that was nice but as far as like well not even that part that i mean yeah that's great uncle lump lump yeah lump is always a pleasure again this is this kind of goes to your point in the beginning of the episode there wasn't a lot

that happened because of those the scene changes it's really just monique's and then when we get to colorado those are the two big things this scene was fine i mean this was good it was they at least closed a loop, which Ashley doesn't usually do. We did talk to her mom a little bit later or a little bit earlier in the season. We had some sort of an update. Again, we don't really care about Ashley's storylines in her personal life because we know that there's more there and she's kind of making things up. The whole Josh thing threw us off, kind of pissed us off as well.

But now we get to this at least at the very least. We had a discussion with her mom earlier about her partner and all the things that he's putting her through while he's trying to battle his addiction and all the things that come along with that how that's affected Ashley growing up at least now we've moved forward we're having a birthday party for her son but also it was someone else's birthday party there's a couple other birthdays going on yeah it was probably maybe that's what i thought but then i was confused could be saying to dean at the end i don't know yeah dean the machine which i actually really liked um but yeah either way lump was in this scene so that's going to get an a plus for me every time

that's fair but we do find out like i said And genuinely, this is nice to hear, that at the very least, mom's boyfriend is going to get treatment. That has obviously been a big sticking point with this whole family, except for mom, grandma, apparently. He's like, he's always been fine in my book. I was like, we've only heard horrible things about this guy. The awkward silence afterwards, it's like, yeah, no, he's actually been terrible to all of us. And he ruined by childhood. Everyone just shut the fuck up.

Like, okay. Are we going to sing happy birthday? Bieber. Let's get to Monique's book release party, and everybody's invited. Everybody arrives. I really, really like this scene. Monique was one of my favorites when she was on originally, and the binder moment was a big moment when she pulls that thing out and when scorched earth, all that.

So for her to go back into the bag of tricks and pull out the binder and be like, you know, at the end of the day, I'm a binder bitch. I was like, hell yeah, break out the binders. And it's a team activity. group activity write down what you think about the other people in the tabs which i thought was really interesting did everybody there get a binder was there like a rando that was at the party that was writing about jazelle and ashley because that would be funny to see their that would actually be really funny to see but no it was just for the uh for the castmates this was

like a two tiered type of event i thought it was really funny because she's writing she wrote a book and i think it's called love letters to myself which is quite literally what it is everybody Everybody's reaction was, okay, this is a little gratuitous. This is just you talking about yourself. The book is called Love Letters to Myself. Have you ever been to a book reading where you go and listen to excerpts from the book? What did you think this was going to be? Like, oh, yeah, this is great.

It's not a podcast party that you're having, Giselle, which, by the way, you throw terrible parties. It's not some sort of other, what was Ashley's thing? The second bloom. Yeah, the second bloom, yeah. I forget which blue. Fifth, fourth? Which bloom were we on? Oh, who knows.

I'm going to get stuck on that for a while. But it's not one of these stupid-ass parties that you guys have planned. This is how this works. If you go to a book opening, now I'm all fucked up. If you go to a book release party, they're going to read excerpts from the book. And the book is about herself. Of course, they're going to talk. It gives a little bit more weight because Stacey even said the same thing.

But when Giselle was like, oh yeah what are we doing here i don't really understand this we're just talking about yourself the whole time i'm a little bored yeah it probably is a little boring but it's a book about herself of course we're going to do that the binder thing seemed way too much work i'm not going to lie i i know and we'll get to like everybody's little excerpts about themselves if someone hands me a binder and they're like all right i want you to write down something about everyone here i'm skipping a couple of pages i'm going to like draw a thumbs up on a couple of them i don't know or checkmark like yeah you're good on my yeah well we're grading them i agree as far as like a two different

parties in one party thing i had the same reaction as you during the reading like what'd you guys expect like the name of the book tells you what she literally said these are love letters to me like i thought that was just you know metaphors and no it's legit like she would write herself love letters so what did you think she would say oh and it reminds me of that one time that Giselle that no you're not going to be in the book that's what they're all saying I'm not in this I don't care pretty much she thought she was going to write about their time on the show I don't know but I had the same reaction when everyone's like oh it's like a lot of me what the fuck duh I don't know I was very confused by the whole thing but I love that she still has this

in her because she went through that whole healing journey and everything and she's you know changed who she is a lot this was 100% I'm going to get shady as shit right now and cause some drama before we go on this trip i love that and that shows me that she is really ready to enter back into the housewives world and she's able to do it well because not only does she get a rise out of everybody in the group she then goes oh like this is not what i envisioned for this it's like you knew this was going to happen and i love that you're playing that card too like oh who would have thought that this would have gone poorly i was a little surprised that people were as candid as they were. I really did

think that you would take, like I just said, like take a couple of plays off. Like, uh, I don't really, you know, Wendy and I are friends. I don't really care. She's a great mother. Uh, seems like she has a great business. She has a lot of purses. I don't know where they came from. Things like that. You know, maybe like a little bit of shade here and there. They

went cutthroat. And again, this is the beginning of Giselle just really annoying me. We're still doing the fucking Stacy thing. Just enough. I left the page blank. Oh, okay. Cool. great like enough like just I would be happier if she articulated something because again we don't really know what Ashley and Giselle's problem with Stacy is I'm glad that we've at

least moved on from that mostly because I'm assuming Giselle and Ashley weren't getting the rise out of everybody that they thought they were going to get by going after or by going after Stacy and just trying to bash her but to leave the page blank again and then think that it's going to be some cool moment that's going to go back to Nevis where you left everything and you didn't give her an embroidered makeup bag or whatever the hell it was. Enough. Like,

do your fucking job at this point. Yeah, it's uninventive. It's lazy and it's not funny. And it's surprising, honestly, that she went back to that. I was like,

really? I know that back in the day, green-eyed bandits would have hammered that thing to death. But this has not been you for a couple of years now. I was disappointed that the page is blank. It's like at the very least, if you still don't like her, write that down.

right down why you don't like her like let's get into actually wrote something and ashley did the the move which it means absolutely nothing but at least for the show and what she's been doing the whole year for stacey at the very least she added a couple of niceties you wrote in one thing that just said confused i think you're confused not stacey but whatever the rest of it was nice great mom full of energy like okay cool yeah confused confident nurturing good mother i believe yeah good enough and that's fine fine because that tells me you're still going to slip something in there to see if you can get an ooh ah moment you didn't get the uh oh a moment maybe this is the final little like last gasp

to try to go after stacey and it didn't work i hope so fingers crossed wendy she calls kiana fake fair enough and kiarna's response is well my bags aren't fake it works now it really works now at the time it didn't really hit yeah does kiara know more that's what i'm saying that my my ears perked up and i was like oh yeah what do you talk it are you trying to be on it and we even said that in the beginning of the season kiara had a couple of comments here and there that really work in the current day but at the time it's like oh and you're going to come away from this season thinking that you were ahead of the curve you were the first one there first one on the scene you were right the whole time and it was wrong at the time but it's right now so

You're like, oh, well, look at me. At this point, she's done it enough where it's like, did you know a couple of things here and there? And you didn't really show your hand. You just had a couple of shady comments in there. If that's the truth and she has something to say at the reunion, which they're filming this week, if she has something to say and she was on top of it and she had information that other people didn't, that's actually pretty good for Kiarna. We'd have to do a retrospective re-rank because she would have,

she would move up a few pegs if these are intentional comments about when these tech stuff like that's funny so i would definitely give her a better grading this season if that comes to fruition at the reunion i'm i don't know i'm cautiously i don't think it's going to be like it's not a drastic change in rankings by any means no i'm just wondering if she knew something at the time of filming and she wasn't showing her hands that's the only thing that i really want to know the rest of it i do still think she's taking a couple of shots in the dark and it's probably just rumors that she's heard and she's throwing them out there but it's really plays right now.

It's, yeah, my, my ears burnt up, like I said, but the fake comment comes from, I guess they were cool before they started filming, and then the group got back together, and then Kiyana flipped the script. That actually makes a lot of sense when you look at the season that she's had, because we liked her last year for the most part. Like, there are some moments that were like, eh, but for a newbie, she did fine. Coming into this season, this has been a different Kiarna that we've been seeing. and now it makes a lot of sense.

She came in, it's the sophomore slump. That's exactly what happened. She came in with a game plan, didn't pay attention to what was going on around her and just kept going for these certain things, Stacey being one of them, and she fell flat. I do think she's playing a little bit of defense now

and trying to rebuild, and you see that with her pushing away from Angel a little bit. I thought she's, like the last two to three episodes, she's been more enjoyable, and I'll give her credit for that. So, I don't know. I still don't know where she stands, but at this juncture, I'm cool with her coming back. I think that she would be fine next season.

I think that's what the comments about Wendy has given me, the distancing from Angel. And yeah, that's it. I think she can come back based on this. It could be just that, but all it really shows me is at the very least, you might have the mind to play this game of housewives. You might have something there, which we used to take it for granted, I think. I think because we jumped into the game and we started seeing all of these very established housewives and then we saw a lot of newbies.

We've seen a lot of newbies that just simply don't have what it takes to be a housewife and they don't understand what's going on. Obviously, Angel being the very, very low end of the totem pole, who clearly has no idea what the fuck is going on. and every scramble for every event shows us even more that you're not even getting a grasp of the situation. At the very least, we can see that Kiarna is making a couple of subtle moves,

which are my favorite types of moves, and she's moving in the right direction, which is honestly a pretty good sign for her. Yeah, and that's what I was talking about earlier on, where there's some positives to look at with Kiarna because of those things. It's like, oh, she is thinking like a housewife now. Like that, that's good. If she can enter the third season in that mindset,

I think we'd have a pretty decent season out of her. And that's all we need from a Chiarna. She's not going to drive this show forward. We just need her to do her job, honestly. So I'm curious to see how she's going to rebound if she rebounds. But Angel to Ashley, and I could just be so irritated by her that I'm looking for any reason. I hope I'm not. But even with this, it's like disappointing.

It's like, ugh, it's just not fun. It's like, I don't like it. There's nothing. I think there's no response. And then, of course, Ashley's response is catfish. I'm like, no, boo, both you both suck. They both cancel each other out with negative comments that we just simply don't care about. I think Angel could have done herself a lot of good, which I'm starting to sound like a broken record.

If she had something to put together, like, I'm not telling you to be all buddy, buddy with Ashley. I'm not telling you to go ahead and just like try for a clean slate like I might for other people. At this point, there's nothing you can really do. be mean back. If you are that mean person that we've heard about where we heard about the other wags

we're talking about how you were bossing people around and you were trying to be Queen B, at least try that. We're not even seeing that. I guarantee you the behavior we've seen from Angel did not get her

to where she supposedly was in the wag community by doing shit like this. If you have this opportunity where you can write something down, I'm telling you right now, skip over Stacey, skip over Kiarna,

to skip over Wendy, just go after Giselle and Ashley, write some mean shit down at the very least, write some absolute petty bullshit down and then see where it goes because that's at least better than what you've been doing and writing disappointing with the period afterwards, stupid and just unimaginative.

And disappointing, honestly. And that's the thing. If she went hard in on Giselle, Giselle would respect that. She would like that. She wouldn't be up in arms like, how dare you? She'd be like, okay, there you are. if you've been looking for you, glad you finally joined the party.

So that was a moment for her to have entered back in. And instead, she goes with disappointing with the catfish comment. And then she talks about the trip. It's like, well, if I put so much love and thought and care into this trip for each and every single one, ah, it's not that serious. It's just not that serious. And they're able to like squash it a little bit. And then Giselle made a very funny joke.

That was the only catfish joke that's been. funny the entire season. Are you going to serve catfish on the trip? But laugh it off. I'm fucking out of here. See ya. Okay. Like, God, you're just a bummer, dude.

She's a bummer. Yeah. And again, like, if you showed, she does this thing, and I'm going to refer to it again, where she sleeps on it. And then you just get more mad about something that you shouldn't even be getting mad about. And like Wendy says later in the episode, you just have to let it roll. Just let the shit roll off your.

She says it right now. This is when she says, like, hey, we're just throwing shade, dude. This is who we are. Yeah. It's just so tired, man. And you can see where it's going to go every single time. And they're not even big comments. They're not even really talking about your eviction.

You're bringing it back up every single time. They're done with it. Later in the episode, sure, when Giselle starts talking about it, go after her. But just enough. Like, I've had enough of Angel. Yeah, same. I didn't expect this to be an Angel Bash. episode, but there's not a whole lot to dive into until we get to the end now.

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And they're talking and Angels frustrated because of the Potomac and Ponies thing. And she said, which is we assumed by the phone call, but you get confirmation like Bobby didn't want to go at all. And you know how husbands are when they don't want to go to things. And so I was already frazzled and flustered coming into the party. Then I get there and I hear people are talking about me being evicted and this and that. the other, okay, fine, fine. That would be irritating. But we're now at a point that we have talked about this exact thing quite a few times. And we've been waiting for some kind of explanation.

That's the other thing that this group will not drop something until they get an explanation for it. Good, bad, or indifferent. They need to know why. And I appreciate that because we at home want to know why. You have yet to give a decent response. So they're going to keep asking you when it comes up. So once again, it comes up and your response is simply the lease ended before we thought it would. That doesn't make any sense. That's not a real thing unless if they sold the house and you had to move out because they're no longer leasing it. If they're moving back into the house, that would make sense. You could lie and say either of those things and you would be out of this. They don't really care anymore the rest of the group. They just need a response.

because they're not going to drop it until they get one, and you're incapable of giving them anything to go on. So, of course, they're going to keep going, and now they're going to dig. Now, Giselle's going to dig into it and see if she can find some shit. And she probably will because she usually does. It might not be the best dirt in the world, but it'll be something that'll piss you off. You left the door open for that. And the worst part is you're going to have Ashley coming off the top rope chiming in

with some really stupid shit that you really don't want to hear, and neither do we. Yeah, that's definitely going to happen. And again, you've gotten yourself into this position by your lack of explanation. I feel like Angel just thinks like this is enough. What I've told you guys is enough. And the fact that you keep bringing it up is actually aggravating me. But you're not really explaining it at all.

It just simply doesn't make any sense. I'm like you said, just lie about it. Who the fuck cares? She doesn't want to because she doesn't feel like she owes these women an example or an explanation and that's really what it comes down to that's a good point you could do yourself so many good things if you just spent another 30 seconds on an explanation even just say fuck i fucked up i had the dates wrong i thought we'd have more time and we didn't and it kind of sucks and it's pretty embarrassing and now i have to go back to colorado with my tail between my legs because i

fucked up and bobby's now mad at me if you said that and i guarantee you that's probably the situation or blame it on bobby bobby doesn't give a shit he already doesn't want to go to this party. He doesn't want to go to the kid's center to go do this party while you guys are moving back to Colorado actively because you now have to show face on this show where they're going to ask a bunch of questions and you're going to answer them improperly. Just blame anyone. I don't care. That's all these women want. But because you keep giving these weird inadequate responses, they're going to keep pressing because now they're actually starting to think that you got evicted. That's the problem here. And it's going to get

worse for you but let's get to colorado finally we've been talking about this trip for a while in my mind this is angel's last chance yeah you've got all of the ladies on your turf you can set the tone you can do whatever you want to do and you can climb out of the gutter that you're currently in you the ball is firmly in your court it's just really funny too because i'm like oh actually good for her for going to the airport to go pick them up and like sorting everything out and going in person have a good energy about you even stacey said that she must have taken one of my gummies because she's in a much better mood she seems happy but you immediately make it weird by saying well you're not riding with me only two of you guys are going to ride with me and then the other

couple of you are going to get like what what are we doing i don't really understand that it's so confusing it's bizarre you're already splitting them up for no reason you're having two of them come with you the two you pick to come with you make no sense. Why are Stacy and Wendy the two that you're deciding to come with you? I don't really understand that. It's already very weird. It just simply isn't adding up immediately. And I don't know what's wrong with her, but it seems like every time she has a chance to do something that's just normal. I'm not even saying that's cool or housewifery or anything like that, just a normal interaction with a human being. She somehow finds a way to make it bizarre. So I have a theory. And I

I think it's a good one, and it builds more on the wag thing, but I have a good theory as to what this was. So I believe truly, and I grew up around wags, okay? I grew up when my dad was in Major League Baseball, and that was like peak wag time. Okay, they even made a show about it. I knew two of the people that were on the Wag show from baseball. So from my expertise in observing this, this was Wagman. moves. This was setting the hierarchy. You two are with me. You two are back there. You two are in the other car. It's all of these weird steps put in place to try to make other people feel

inferior. And that's what she was trying. She's trying to set the tone of the trip with the cars. Wendy, you're with me because the group respects you. You're not mad at me. You just have questioned some things. I want you on my team. Stacey, you're in a similar boat. They've been coming after you. I resonate with that. You get in the car. car. Kiarna, I don't know what your deal is anymore. You're not coming with us. You're going back there.

You've been, in my eyes, in angel's eyes, demoted. Like, what you're trying to set up is not what is being set up. And instead, you're starting the trip off by splitting people up. They have said 15 times this episode that girls' trips are about being together, spending quality time together, and hanging out with the girls. You're setting the tone that you're going to piss them off before you get to the house. and then you're cryptic in the car going when we get to the house you're staying in. Wendy, what do you mean?

Thought we were staying with you? Nah, no, some of you are, but the rest are stay. Why would you set it up this way? I know what you're trying to do. You're trying to show that you are not going to tolerate bullshit, but in sticking them an hour away from your actual house, you're just ruining the trip. I don't want to watch them drive for an hour.

and when they get to your house after an hour drive, they're going to be pissed off. They're going to walk out of the car into your house and they're going to shit on you because you set the tone. Yeah, that was bizarre. And this is, again, me just trying to do mental gymnastics to be like, all right, maybe I can understand where you're coming from. You don't have enough room in your house.

I assume your house is up the hill. Maybe it's right around the corner. An hour of the fuck away, what are you telling me that there's no other houses that you could have rented in Colorado Springs? you have to drive an hour away all the way up and through to get to the house that the majority of the women are staying at and you're going to spend a weekend like this, this makes zero sense to me. And again, normal interactions with normal people. I threw this trip together.

Obviously, I had a lot going on. I really wanted you guys to stay with me. I'm actually going to stay at this house with you. This isn't where I live, but we are going to spend an afternoon and an evening at my house. Bobby's up there cooking. We're going to get there. It'll be all right. And then we're going to come back here and we're going to spend the rest of the weekend together. That would have made sense.

But again, you fail to just pass the human test of just being a normal fucking person. An hour away is ludicrous. And your idea of, well, we're going to do this and that and you're going to stay in this room. You're going to stay in this room. The only thing that you did this entire time, this entire episode that was worthwhile, was tucking Giselle and Ashley into a twin bedroom. That's fucking hilarious. And everything's funny, Monique

falls on the ground and starts laughing. It was a good shady move and you can build on that. You can build on it. You had Giselle in a fucking headlock. She immediately starts spouting off about how she's not staying in that room. She starts talking about your eviction. Other people

are noticing. Giselle is spiraling downstairs because Wendy got the entire bottom apartment, which again not a big deal. You can probably just stay downstairs with Wendy if you want to. It's not a big deal at all. Who the fuck cares? But Giselle is in a moment right now where she doesn't want to do it.

And you've got her exactly where you want her. And what do you do? You sit everybody down to talk about the eviction thing. You're going to try to do like the teacher with a classroom full of kids. We're all sitting down. Nobody's fucking leaving until you show me who threw that pen at me. Until you show me who put that kick me sign on your back. That's what we're going to do.

Like really? That's your response. you finally had a win. And this is what you're going to do, crumble immediately? Why? Because she thinks that she has to make a statement with every single thing she does. That's what I think it is. I think that she has to have these big moments to land and they never do.

I think that if she just went in there, she's, she is rattled. She is so rattled. You did it. It was a good move. It was a good bit. We all liked it. Everyone there liked it. And then.

you sit everybody down and you reprimand the whole group for Giselle saying evicted. Also, also, you haven't given an explanation. If you had explained it even 20% of the way, that would not be happening. They would probably make some jokes here and there, but it would be a lot less, a lot less umph on it. It would just be like, oh, ha, ha, they'd be saying it in jest. Instead, you've opened up this door. And now we're in Colorado, an hour away from your house. You're leaving by the way you're not even staying to hang out with them you're about to leave and you're before you leave you're going to act like the principal and i i know this for a fact that this group

specifically is not going to respond well to that they're going to tell you to go fuck yourself you're not the boss of me you're not my mom who the hell do you think you are that's no we're going to get i think we're going to get a rug pull i think that everybody's going to do that and she's going to threaten to cancel the reservation yeah on the house and send everybody home that's where we're by the way, which should never, ever happen on a housewife show. First off, you should be staying with the crew. Second off, it shouldn't be an hour away from your house. But mostly, you should never threaten to remove them and send them home when we're on a trip in Colorado.

This is a cast trip. We have to be there the whole time for better or for worse. If you're going to do that, which I know she's going to do, just go away. Just go away quietly, quietly resign, move on. Don't go to the reunion. I don't want to see you. We can have a couple of jokes, but we'll move on very quickly because you were just a weird little spot on this season. I just, I guess I don't understand why she's on the show.

Like, why did you want to do this? She probably seems promising. Oh, oh, you mean from that regarding. I was going to say from like who she is, she seems promising. She's got a husband who was in the NFL. He was a good player in the NFL. She seems to be rich. She's friends with Kiarna.

She's coming back to the area. All of those things add up. and I guarantee you she probably interviewed pretty well for the. Oh, I'm sure. If she's not rattled, she's probably great, honestly. I'm saying that right now,

genuinely, if she didn't have this catfish eviction thing stuck in her head to where she cannot move on, she'd probably be fine. If she had gotten off on the right foot with somebody in a position of power, let's say her and Giselle did hit it off. She'd be cruising right now. She'd be on cruise control.

Yeah, but instead, you have to be able to redirect. That's like Housewives 101. They're going to come after you at some point. Look at Stacey. She's handled it masterfully this season. They have come after her time and time and time again.

And she's doing what works best with this group. When they're coming after you, when they're piling on, grin and bear it, get through it, you'll be fine. They'll drop it. That's what they did. You'll catch a couple of strays here and there, but they're going to move on to something else. They moved on to Angel. And the minute they know that you're rattled, the minute that they got you in a corner, you're cooked.

And that's what they're doing now. They're just, they're now beating a dead horse because they're like, are you ever going to pull out of this? Are you ever going to change your narrative? Are you going to change up anything? Are you going to be fun or anything? No. No?

Well, we're just going to keep poking you then. I think we're at our wits ends now where, yes, I think that where we are in Colorado in the way that she's acting, they're going to continue to poke. I think if we were still in Potomac and she was still acting this way, they're dumb with her. They're just going to cast her aside. They're not even going to bother to poke anymore, which is probably for the better. But again, it's just you're taking up space and it doesn't make any sense.

Yeah. Well, I'm curious to hear what the audience has to say about it. Let's get to some questions. Watch them be like, Angel was great this episode. We just spent an hour talking shit. Oh, yeah, here you go from Jade Brianna. Caduce to Angel in order? Better late than never.

No, it's not. Again, I do think a spiral from her. would do well for the show because at least it would be a capping off moment. We're good. We're done with Angel. But she at least had a moment in there where everybody kind of came together and just said, fuck you to her. That would be okay.

But I don't know. Yeah. Like from Nate Bam, it was good to see Angel finally make a big housewife move by putting G&A in the double beds. Yeah, that was a good. And we gave her credit for that. It's the other stuff that it completely deviates from the point. Yeah.

from i'm just being frank which we didn't talk about this but it was a great moment is k crying because she's not invited no she's not crying because she's not invited she's crying because she took a shot and she's at altitude and she immediately felt the effects of it didn't really care for it but i love love that she just looks out the window are those trees like incredible just unbelievable wendy why would you do this to me she was great that she had a good episode that shit was Yeah, she was great. Oh, interesting from B. Reedy 13, 126 is Tia the realtor friend? That would be excellent.

If that was where it came from, I don't think so. That would be incredible. I don't think it is, but that would be incredible. Only because Wendy is the one who brought it up and she said she has a realtor friend. And I'm not remembering a whole lot of Tia and Wendy being buddy, buddy. Yeah, I just, I doubt it. But, God, if that was the reveal, what a masterful season. She would, she might be up for, we don't say it anymore because every time we do the

newbies crash and burn, but she would be in the running for the award we shall not name. Oh, that girl Courtney, Meredith Voice, Angel, you can leave. Yeah, we agree. Oh, that's interesting. From Krista Leanne, can, uh, Giselle stand on her own two feet? The GNA act is tired. Why does she always need a duo? That's the interesting thing.

Her best season was last year where she didn't have a duo. Yeah. And she has definitely regressed this season by leaning further into GNA. So maybe it's a comfortability thing. It could be a comfortability thing. That might be it. I don't really know. It could just, I don't know.

Maybe it's the writing on the wall like Karen's going to be coming back. I don't really, yeah, I really don't know. I can't really wrap my head around, to be honest. Here we go. From Rylan McD., 15. Besides Ashley, who tends to flop at every reunion slash, who will have the hardest time at this reunion. If Angel's there, Angel's going to have the hardest time,

and it's going to be either really funny or very cringy to watch her squirm. If we're going to leave Angel out of it because she's the low-hanging fruit. I think when you come out of the other side. Ashley, yeah, of course. But that was the basis of the question. No, I know, but I don't think anyone else is going to flop, really. Stacey might have a hard time at reunions because you have to, like. She's the answer for fucking everything.

Yeah, and they're going to keep pressing, and Andy's going to keep pressing until you give answers. But the flip side of that is that she doesn't really get rattled. So she'll probably just smile and say, and still I rise, which she was getting absolutely smoked last year. And she dropped that line and everyone loves her. Correct. So I don't know. Like this is a good reunion group for the most part. And Monique entering back in, she performs well at reunion.

So I think, you know, it feels mean at this point, but angels. Oh, yeah. Yeah, I think that's pretty much it. That covers it. Well, thank you for attending the Roast of Angel. Yeah. I feel like it was a long time coming. Yeah, and you know what?

It's in keeping with the broth bros being back. And that's what you should take from this episode. Potomac's having a good season and the bros are officially back. And I'm going to drop this thing at midnight and change all of our logos. And I'm so excited. excited. I'm so excited to do work right now for this. So that's all I got. You got anything else? Nope. All good here. Well, it's been a minute. But brav bros are out of here. Yeah. God, I feel good. If Bravo drama, pop culture, chaos, and honest takes are your love language. You'll want all about

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