Bros & Shows - RHOP Reunion pt. 1 Full Recap

Episode Date: February 20, 2025

What's up Bros? It is reunion season once more in Potomac. In this first episode, we didn't cover a whole lot. But we did get the Karen stuff out of the way. Not present at the reunion, she sent a message for her castmates. It was disappointing to say the least. Instead of a heartfelt message about going away to rehab, she uses the opportunity to take a dig at Wendy. It was disingenuous, belittling to recovery and frames it as though she is using rehab to avoid scrutiny. Andy highlights the growth of Wendy and Gizelle and the fantastic season we had from the both of them. We discuss the Jassi situation and what she did and did not know about potentially being a side chick. Then we get to an off season event when Mia invited Stacey and Jassi to Miami to celebrate her birthday, only to go M.I.A. upon their arrival and not respond to them until days after. It results in the classic Mia pity party in which she plays victim, but it looks like it wont work this time... Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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none of you are safe. New episodes every Wednesday, wherever you get your podcasts. Well, I feel like this is probably the weirdest way that we've started off a reunion. Without a doubt. Yeah. It felt like a sort of like an in-memorium type of situation. We had a picture.

We had some body cam footage. We really had it all. We should have had one more reenactment from Bravo of the night. They should have done that. Yeah. That's all they should have done. Just replay that and let us all remember what happened in the first episode to start off the season. That was the craziest way to start off the season.

And this is one of the strange ways to start a reunion. I got to have me my bros and shows. Bros and shows. Brows and shows. I got to have me my bros and shows. Good evening, everybody. Welcome back to another episode of Bros. And shows.

I'm your co-host. You're also joined as always by the one and only, Skeeter McGee. What's up, dude? I had a realization during this episode. Less of an epiphany. I feel like epiphany's a reserved for like a rock big things. A rot piffonies.

Ropiphani. All right, I'll use that fine. That's what I had while watching this reunion because I felt like this, while it was good, it was structured well. I like the structure very much. It was easy for you to take notes, which I always think about during reunions. Thanks, dude. I thought to myself, a bad slash boring reunion episode is not indicative of a season because I thought this was a good season. We had our ups and downs, mostly ups. I think it was a solid. It wasn't a great season.

No, but it was so much better than last. season of Potomac. So I'm going to just say it was a good season. Yeah. Just because we had a first episode and look, if the next two episodes, I think it's three parts, right? I don't know. I don't know. They didn't really say it. They made it seem like it was two with the cut scenes, but maybe it is only two. Either way, I'm not going to hold them accountable if it's a bad reunion because it was still an enjoyable season that we got through. I didn't think this episode was terrible. There's just not a whole lot to it. Yeah. But I didn't think it was awful. It was just kind of, it felt like,

we were getting a lot of setup and then, like, cleaning, because we do know if it's a three-parter. We've been blessed with the last two Housewives shows have had three great reunion episodes. Yes, correct. That's the other problem. We have potentially forgotten that usually one of the three tends to be a filler. Yeah. This felt like that. Let's clean up some of the little stuff that's going on this season. Let's bring out Jazzy immediately. Yeah.

Let's go through her stuff real quick. I feel like we went through all of Karen's stuff because she's not even there. Yeah. We just kind of went through that to begin with. And, like, they're still taking shots to Karen or talking about her here and there. But we're not going to have, all right, here's the Karen storyline. Right. We're just going to get that out of the way immediately because she's not here to talk.

So. I think this was like a cleanup episode. Yeah, that's pretty much what it was. Let's take care of some details so that we can get into some shit later. It's either this or we get the third episode where it's just to sit down with Karen or it's the third episode is half reunion. I don't think we're not getting that. We already got that in the beginning with her.

weird Zoom call in, which we'll talk about. But we could have had the third episode be half reunion. Then they'd kind of like finish everything off. They take their shots at the ends, whatever. And then we have 20 minutes of Andy sitting with Karen, which we're not getting. Right. But that's probably what we could have had. So instead, we had this.

This was fine. It was fine. It was fine. And like you said, we start out with Karen. Before we even get to the reunion set up, we get this, this video of her finding out about the fact that she was found guilty on seven of eight charges. She says my stomach dropped. There's a month till sentencing, which got pushed.

It's coming up, isn't it? I think it's coming up. Yeah, we're getting close to her sentencing, which could result in up to two years of prison time. Could also get pushed again. I do. The reason that got pushed was she got a whole new legal team. Yeah.

Because she's trying to refute the fact that the jury found her guilty, but whatever. Yeah, whatever. I don't have a whole lot of sympathy for, especially I'm watching this. But, you know, you get her confessional where it's like, I care about the children. I care about my family. And she's still holding on to the fact that she's not an alcoholic. And she ends up with, like, do as I say, not as I do, that old trope, whatever.

Oh, yeah. But we get to the reunion itself. Everyone's coming to the realization that Karen's not there. Nobody's seen her. She's not answering her phone. And that's the first thing we address when we get on to the stage, Karen's absence. Like I said, nobody's spoken to her. Does anybody know why she's missing?

Everyone's like, no. We do know that she was found. guilty again seven out of eight charges come to find out she's checked herself into a private facility aka she's checked herself into rehab of course everyone there's like oh that's great that's what she should have done she should have done it before all of this especially before her trial but at least she's getting help now wendy calls it out i'm glad somebody called it out she still feels scorned after watching the season as she should because karen threw her to the bus repeatedly and she've invited her the White House. We watched Wendy stick up for her at every single turn.

I'm so happy that she did not just stick to it and say, you know what, Karen, she's still my friend, you were still going to do all of this. I'm still going to stick up for you. She's like, no, fuck that. That's not Wendy. No. Wendy doesn't fuck around like that. Yeah, she doesn't fuck around like that. But she calls it out and says, hmm, it's just interesting that she would do that right before her sentencing and not before the trial itself, which everybody around the room kind of agrees, which I did too. It's like, well, yeah, obviously if she can reduce her sentencing, We would all do that. So, yeah, that's fair.

Stacey, of course, is speaking up for Karen. I'm like, oh, no, like, don't even, this is not fair, this and that. I agree with Wendy, where she's like, look, if we're friends, we're going to ask questions because we want to get to the bottom of this whole thing. But of course, Stacey's just going to say, no, no, Karen, no, no. But let's get to Karen's message and get this out of the way immediately. She checked herself in because she's taking antidepressants, mixing it with alcohol. And she goes through her list of things.

use. This list of thank yous is why I did not take her seriously. This list of thank you's is the reason that I, as somebody in recovery, as somebody very outspoken about recovery, take this whole thing as a sham. I think it's bullshit. I think she's using it to try to take advantage of the recovery community. I don't think that's fair to people that actually have to go through this and do it for the right reasons. And I think that that is highlighted by the fact that she used this opportunity to take digs at people. She used the opportunity to thank Giselle,

Kearna, Jazzy, and even Candice, who is no longer on the show, taking direct shots at Wendy by not mentioning her. And I think that that is such horseshit. I'm glad she's getting help because I do think she actually needs it.

You'll get zero sympathy from me. As somebody that really went through this whole fucking process, to use this to your advantage to not have to answer for your bullshit at a reunion for a fucking T-Simpa. show. That's what she was doing. That's all she was doing was just putting this video out there

so that she could still be shady, still act like she's the Grand Dame, still act like she's in charge of everything and her word is law, all of the things that she always does. And she would do that at the reunion, but she knows that she would get skewered. Yeah. We said this before. The timing, obviously doing it before sentencing and not the trial. That's obvious. But doing it before the reunion is so that she doesn't have to go on a public stage and answer for the things that she's done, answer for the friendships that she has completely scorned or turned away from, all of the things that she's done all season, she gets to get out of it Scott Free. And obviously, she'll probably be back next year and we'll start off the season with talking

about her and talking about her, mending her friendships and showing up for people. But right now, this was just a huge fuck you. It was. There's a massive fuck you, not only the people on stage, but like I said, people in my position that actually go through this shit, I thought it was disrespectful, disingenuous. And I'm completely out on Karen Hugo. I do think she hope, like I genuinely hope she gets help. I do hope that next year she comes back.

And if she does come back, I hope that it is with genuine apology and that she actually learned something while she's away in rehab. But I thought that this was one big play. And it's highlighted by the fact that she didn't even take her message to the women seriously. So that's all I have to say about it. I don't have to say anything else about it. And hopefully we don't have to talk about her for the rest of the reunion. I would much prefer that.

And Wendy takes it for what it was. And she's like, you know, seeing what has. happened during the season, then watching this video, that right there is not my friend. Yep. That's not my friend. I was like, nope. And she never was. Right, Wendy.

And Giselle points out, she's like, I've been telling you this. She's like, I didn't fucking trust you. I was like, that's pretty funny. That was the funniest moment, too. Yeah. And we all know that their past is very checkered between Giselle and Wendy. So the fact that they can laugh about that and say, I didn't fucking trust you, great, incredible, because it shows how far we've come with both Giselle and Wendy.

Well, they both were very. different, but so much better this year. They were so great. They were both great. With Wendy not letting the little shit bother her, not just focusing on like weird storylines about talking about this and this. She had a great season for herself,

really redeemed herself in my eyes. And Giselle transformed into the leader of the show. Yep. And there is no more, Karen, to be on your back. No. You're not the Grand Dom, as she says a little bit later. She's just Giselle. Yeah.

And she showed up in a big way. And this is what you have to do. Yeah. When you lose the dead weight and Robin, you can shine. Yep. And I think that was also a massive part of this season was the lack of Robin being there, allowed for these different characters to kind of come out.

Wendy, Giselle, they, they shined. And we get to them immediately, like Dr. Wendy and Giselle's friendship. Both of them, Giselle was lighter and funnier. Wendy was lighter and funnier. And, you know, Wendy attributes some of that to the fact that she left her position at the university. She's like, I no longer felt like I had to keep up this image of what a professor. is, which is so funny that she acknowledges that. Yeah. But I agree with it.

I do too. It makes a lot of sense. If we go back and watch those scenes with her previously, how much she would bring it up, she would carry herself a certain way, wear certain clothes. Now she doesn't give a fuck. And she's funny, and I like this, Wendy, a lot. But we check in with Happy Eddie.

Happy Eddie is booming. Of course. Shocker. Weed business doing well. Oh, yeah. Stacey's a big fan of the gummies. Maybe too big of a fan. Little she. She's doing the Spongebob, like plankton type of thing. Like, did she take one of the edibles but didn't take it?

She just took it back to a lab to get tested. Oh, the secret for the crappy fatty formula? The secret formula. Wow, maybe. I don't know. But, Jacelle. Stacey has a Karen at home, but it's just T.J. That would work.

That's really funny. But, yeah, Jiselle calls her out. She's like, you didn't have a meeting with somebody? And she's like, I have no idea what you're talking about. She's like, you didn't have a meeting with somebody. There's a little smile in there. Stacey's turn. She's changed.

Stacey has changed ever since the doggy party. Stacey's a little bit different than the Stacey that we started the season out with. And Giselle's like, you didn't have a meeting with someone and say, I'm a celebrity. Why should I work with you? Oh, it's because I'm a celebrity. And when he's like, don't do that. Hey, don't do that. And he's like, well, you did that with the candle.

She's like, fuck, no, I didn't Karen did that with the candles. Like, oh, right, right, right, right, right. My bad. My bad, my bad. Going through Wendy's season, again, like, she did a lot of cool things this year, obviously going to the White House was incredible, and she acknowledges it was surreal, especially considering the recent results in the election, probably not going to be back at the White House anytime soon. She does regret inviting Karen, which she should.

Yes. Now, let's get to the Stacey versus Karen, all that shit. And I'm glad that Kiana said something, because I thought this. And it was interesting that nobody pointed out the fact that this information was given to Stacey before the season started. yes she was tight with wendy the whole season oh yeah not one time did she bring this up until the friendship with karen started falling apart yeah stacey's defense was not good no it really wasn't and really all she had to say was look i reserved the right to learn who you were as a person i wanted to be my own person away from karen and not listen to what she was saying and you can even

say i forgot at this point sure you could just say you know what it didn't come back to me until Karen started being an asshole to me. And I started thinking, well, what did she do? What was she saying before? What can I use against her? You could say any of those things. She just says, she just didn't do that. She says exactly what Kearna accused her of. She's like, that's not what happened. I had Karen's back. And then all of a sudden, I find out that she's saying mean things about me. And so then I thought I would tell Wendy. It's like, that's what Kearna said you did. It's exactly what she said. You just repeated her words. Or just, you know what? Own up to it in like a good fun way and be like, yeah.

you know what? I kept that in the back pocket. I wasn't sure what I was going to need. I didn't trust Karen fully. Say things like that. You can say whatever you want. Karen's not here to defend herself. Yeah, she's not going to be able to do. Zoom in? No. He's going to start to all. No, you're not allowed to make phone calls. Not allowed to make phone calls or this. Yeah. Trust me. Yep. Yep. Yeah, only on Sundays. That's all you have to do. She's not here to defend herself. Just wait and see and say, you know what? Yeah, I knew that. I kept it in my back pocket and I

used it at the right time. What do you want me to do? One hundred percent, but I still have the question. And I think I'm starting to figure out what it is because Giselle's had this weird thing with Stacey all season, right? I'm starting to, I think I understand where Giselle's coming from because Wendy brings up the fact that Karen told her to be careful with Stacey because she's smart and she's educated.

Giselle goes, is she? I'm like, damn, I think I got it. Between that comment there, some of the shit we saw during the season, and then the happy Eddie, Spacey, Stacy shit, I think Giselle doesn't trust who Stacey is. I think she thinks there's more than we're seeing. And she's holding out reservations for that to happen.

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Unless you get them from a snack machine, in which case, call us. She is right in saying that Karen grooms the new girls. You get a montage. Very interesting phrasing, but yes. Yeah, not questionable phrasing. I know what she meant. I did too. Yeah.

No, and she's not wrong. No. she's not. It's just, you know, the implication of the word is a little stronger, but you do get this montage of her setting up the newbies with Ashley. She does it with literally everybody that comes on the show. And Kearna jumps up to the defender, not really defender, but just say like, my relationship with hers the way it is because after everything had happened with Sesame Street last season, she was in the hospital with me. And Wendy, once again, Dr. Wendy, she's very smart. she goes, yeah, because that's the motherhood role.

She loves the motherhood role. She has to take care of you. The minute you show her, you can stand on your own two feet, she's going to lash out at you. And we've seen that happen. Wendy is the perfect example. And the moment that you don't think of Karen first, she'll lash out at you. Correct. You should always keep her in the forefront of your mind and worry about what she's doing before

you make plans with anybody else. Her friendship is more important than anything else. And that's important too, because that's how she portrays herself on the show. Apparently, her off-screen, very nice. Yeah. Great person. And she's got this whole persona when she gets on camera. The Grand Dame.

Fortunately for everybody else, she works that way, and it's very weird. It is strange. But we get to check in with Jazzy, who I didn't mind her this season. She didn't do a whole lot. And I didn't think she got a lot of screen time. Yeah, didn't get a whole lot of screen time. But when she was there, she was fine. I wouldn't, if she comes back as a friend of, I have no issues with that.

Wouldn't have any issues. But they're going through all of her stuff, because obviously, and this is why I actually would prefer her get a little more screen time it's an interesting dynamic an interesting issue that she's kind of like left it alone after that we had one full episode of talking about it then we kind of decompressed and talked about it the next episode i think it was in lake norman or wherever we were at the time yep and then that was it i think it's crazy that andy keeps calling her a side chick to her face yeah it's like damn dude because he brings it up he's like you know you're you sound like the side chick and she's like i've never been the side chick i'm the main course that's the response we expect yeah yeah

and Andy doubles down. He's like, you were building a friendship while he was still with her. She was like, I had no idea he was still with her. He didn't post her on Instagram. Just because she was pregnant with his baby. She said they weren't together. I'm like, I don't know what's true or not. I know this is a fucked up situation.

She didn't get enough screen time for me to care. Yeah. You know what I mean? I think if it was more of a pressing issue and we really like nailed into it, it could have been for sure. Instead of all the Mia bullshit, we could have talked about what. Jazzy's doing yeah and get deeper into that but we didn't really have to and I feel like the

girls were kind of disinterested yeah it seemed that way they're like whatever like it seems like a weird situation yeah so yeah I we didn't really get a whole lot with it I mean that's she might even been gone after that she was pretty much gone after that yeah that was that was pretty much it was the shortest stint for a friend of that I think I've ever seen yeah so we'll see if she comes back or not like I said I have no issue if she comes back especially if we get rid of Mia will be able to hone in more on her storyline perhaps. He's leaving. God, I hope so. But let's get to GNA. And the whole debacle between Karen's award and the G&A event, we got a quick run through of Ashley and Giselle's season once again. Giselle's taking a lot of time here. And we get to see

Noms again, talk about Josh. Obviously, we have to lead off with the never-ending question. Ashley, where are we at? She's finally divorced now. She is. It was like last week, right? Yay. Congratulations. And she had like a photo shoot ready, too. Good. Which, you know what? That's leaning into it. Yeah, at this juncture, do that because it's been so ridiculous. Congratulations, Ashley.

That's the best you're going to get out of us. She did file in this moment. So at least she filed their job and everything is done. And out of nowhere, Mia jumps in. She's like, we're in the final stage. So shut up. No one asked. Shut up.

And no, you're not. And you're not because you're back. You're working on getting back with G anyway. And ink is gone. So, like, nothing you do matters because everything you do is, for the show and then you forget that we there are weirdos out there that for whatever reason you're keeping tabs on mea's life and we know and it's usually just me a posting on instagram we know what you're up to now not think about that but we're going to completely lose interest no foresight

no obviously we're going to lose interest during halfway through the season when we find out now that ink is not the baby's dad you're back with g ink is out of the picture why do we care about anything that's on the screen anymore we don't you should wait or you should keep that shit under wraps. Or go away. Just go away. Yeah, I would prefer that, man. And you got like a G&A update, which, you know, again, not a whole lot going on there.

They're changing their community outreach. Now they're not selling stuff. They're not selling T-shirts or whatever. It's whatever. But we get to the dueling events. I agree with the first statement. You should prioritize the first invite. Wherever you were invited to first, the same-day invitation from Karen should not matter.

Yep. I agree with Giselle's interpretation of it as far as Wendy goes. Look, she made a decision. and she stayed somewhere. That's fine, rather than strolling it. Better than strolling it at 803. We did get to see William again. Yes, we did.

Yeah, we got William one more time. Shout out William. I've said it. We need William at every party on every show. There should be security. We got two security moments this season. I think we can do better next year. We can definitely do better.

We got one from Potomac. We got one from Salt Lake. We can get more people kicked out by security. Just imagine homeless, not toothless with security. My God, right? That would be great. We need security at every party. But Jazzy was still there because she takes issue with it.

And it's like, well, I mean, she apologized. Like, Karen, sorry, Giselle apologized immediately, like, following this whole thing, saying, like, my anger was at Karen. It was clearly not at you guys. That's where you get Andy saying, are you the grand dom? In energy, yes. Yes. Giselle is now that role. If there has to be a grand dom of Potomac, then Giselle is the one right now.

Giselle is that. Do she want that title? No. Absolutely not. But let's get to this bizarre situation that we did not. like, had no idea this was going on. Because this happened after the season. Mia's having a birthday party in Miami.

So she sends out some invites to Jazzy and Stacey to come to Miami for the party. Okay, fine, great. Seems reasonable. It's off, it's off camera. I don't care what she's doing. Yep, that's fine. You want to invite them, great. I don't want to go back to MIA with Mia.

Nope, don't need to do that. Nope. But funny, you should say that because guess who is MIA in Miami? Yep. Mia, no shit. God. They, this is so strange. They show up.

They text her that they're there, and she ghosted them. They had no idea where she was. No text message back. And then they show up to dinner, which was supposed to be at 8 o'clock. She shows up an hour late. Until whatever, and then left. Yeah. Because not only are we not getting a text back saying, hey, yeah, I'll be at dinner later.

If you get that text, yeah, maybe you stay that hour and say, oh, it's Mia. She's probably late. Oh, it's Mia. she's probably still getting ready. She's with ink, doing whatever. I don't know. Thank God, Jacqueline's not on stage to explain it away. Oh, my God.

Mia's out there on an island by herself, trying to figure this out. And her excuse is nothing. It's, I set up a POC. Stacey and Jazzy both like, what the fuck is that? Ashley jumps in. Point of contact. Okay, who talks like that? No one.

First of all, what a weird thing to say. Mia. And Mia's claiming that she had no idea. It's like they texted my POC. Thank God, Stacey has receipts. Thank God, this is arguably some of the best receipts we've ever gotten. And the POC didn't make contact. It's in the name.

No. It's in the name. It literally says Mia on the text message. She pulls it out and Andy reads it. It's an itinerary sent from Mia. Hey, ladies, this is what I want to do. It is a spa day or some shit. It's we're going to dinner here, yacht day, whatever the fuck.

We have all these different activities. So Stacey responds. Oh, my God. Sounds so much fun. Can't wait. I'm coming. Uh-huh. Very clearly.

Yep. She commits to go. Mia responds. Can't wait or something along those lines. Confirmation that they are going to Miami. Information that they're going and that it was received. Correct. Yep.

Stacey texts her upon arrival. Hey, just got to Miami. So excited. Can't wait to celebrate you. Blah, blah, blah. Where are you? No response. The text message was read.

the following day, no response until 12.15 a.m. Queen, where are you? To which I guess Stacy replied like, this is so rude. Went home. Yeah. Yeah. It's fucking insane. She's like, I stayed even though you didn't say anything. I still showed up to dinner. And she's like, but then you left. It's like, you were fucking late. Yep. Why would she? Red dinner reservation. You haven't texted her. Yep. You haven't let her know. So of course she leaves, even after being nice enough to show up there. Probably one at Peter's restaurants. She can do whatever she wants. Oh, I bet it was.

She's probably in the back with Peter. Uh-huh. Hey-oh. Hey. But seriously, Jazzy pointing out, she left her fucking kid to be down there with you. She left her daughter to fly down to Miami to celebrate your birthday. And not only did you not tell her, hey, we're not hanging out. You just left her on red the entire weekend.

And of course, and she's like, well, where's Jacqueline through this whole thing? She's like, oh, Jacqueline told us that Mia was more worried about ink. Yep. There it is. There you go. Now we figured it out. It was an ink. problem. It was, it's always an ink problem. Ink is permanent. Ink is permanent. All it is.

Now, because she's been found out, now Mia feels bad. Now she's starting to get upset. Now she's looking around for fucking tissues. I'm like, get the fuck out of here. She was looking around for support. Nobody in that room is going to support you. Why would they? Nope. You haven't all know that you've been lying and you're still lying. As soon as you said that you were in the final stages of your divorce with G, everybody called you a liar. Yeah. And they're right. Because you are. Because they know who you are and what you do. And when you do your sympathy cry, no one's falling for it. Thank God, Wendy, calls her out.

A million times, Wendy, who is pretty bipartisan and kind of stands up for Mia when she needs to, immediately calls her out. Yep. You have nobody left to defend you. And thank God, Jacqueline wasn't out there. I'm going to say it again because you know that she would just be talking away and it takes away from all of Mia and then she can kind of skate under the radar. Correct. We are actually grilling her. This is not what I thought we were going to grill Mia for.

No. And this is great. It's awesome. because she deserves this. Wendy calling her out. She deserves that. And now she wants to say, I'm taking full accountability for this because I haven't been a good friend. I've got a lot going on right now. Giselle points out what I think a lot of people need to hear when they do this kind of bullshit. I get people go through things and I get people need support. I am a very big advocate for speaking up and asking for help. Yep. But don't frame it like your shit is more

important than other people's shit because as jazelle says we're all going through a whole lot all of us and your shit made a mom leave her kid to fly to miami for a weekend to celebrate your birthday and you didn't have the decency to text them and say hey i've got some shit going on right now i am so sorry or anything so you don't get to now play the victim in this whole thing and start crying about it and say, I'm in a bad season right now, bad season of friendship. Kiarna, it's like, it's a three-year fucking season. I'm like, boom. I thought that spoke so loud to the fact that she refers to it as a season.

Yeah. Oh, yeah. That's how her life is. That's a good point. She looks at her life in seasons of the show. That's how it goes. I had a really tough season of friendship this year. What about the rest of your life?

What else is going on? Kearna points out three-year season. So three-year season going on. Because this is your shit all the time. And now you got called out for it. So we get to this post segment where they're breaking for lunch or whatever. Then she goes to Stacey's room and jazz is in there. And she's like, I love and I care about you guys.

And I just don't have the capacity to be a friend right now. And Stacey just points out the bullshit. She's like, dude. I'm so happy this is the new Stacey too. Me too. Because Stacey's seven or eight weeks ago. Whatever. Like, you know what, me, it's okay.

I know you're going through a lot. We're all going through a lot, but you're going through a lot too. It's all right. Water under the bridge. Now it's Stacy like, fuck that. Yeah. She's like, these tears are bullshit. shit. This is your move. You got caught. And that's all you have to chalk it up to is go back to

the initial reaction when they didn't get a text message from her. They texted somebody else. I was going to text them back. They're blowing this out of proportion. Cue the receipts. Cue the tears. So now Stacey's like, dude, go fuck yourself. Yep. I'm not putting up with this shit. I don't believe you. And Mia's like, well, thanks for hearing me up. And she walks in and goes, I'm leaving. I can't do this anymore. Dude, don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out. Get the hell out of here. He doesn't because she doesn't actually leave. But she threatens to leave again based on what we see for next week. Please leave. Yeah. She is the only reason that this show had bad moments this year. It would have been a good season. It would have been cohesive. We would have gotten to

have had a chance to be great. It could have been a great season. We could have had a chance to get to know the newbies more. Jazzy could have taken more of a center stage. We could have gotten to no, Kiarna more. Yep. We could have done so many more things, but we got bogged down for five episodes straight with this who's the kid's father bullshit that we already knew because Mia has to produce storylines for herself because she thinks she's more important than she actually is, when in fact, she could have been the reason that this show failed.

Yep. So get her the fuck out of here. Let this be the last time we see Mia Thornton. on our television because she doesn't belong on this show. She will be the downfall. So get her out, Andy. Get her out.

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I think producers had a picture of Karen. And if anybody did know, I could see Ashley being the one to know, for sure. Uh, but I do think the producers had that picture ready to go on me. Yeah, Prouty. Uh, another picture centric question. From J. What 104. Where do you think Karen's picture should have been? Not there. All the way at the end. Not present. Yeah, not present. I, I can't. It is a funny prop. I don't, I don't, yeah. Uh, who cares? She's not there. Uh, from Mike Brose, our bro.

What's up, bro? Dude, he messaged Steels meals. Yeah. He was in Tokyo. Yeah. I will say this about him and multiple other people have reached out about the steak thing saying I had no idea about filet. So he messaged me and said, hey, man, I'm in Tokyo. We're going to this great steakhouse later. I need to know which cut to get. Do I get, it was like Deluxe Kobe, like Kobe Deluxe Lean or do I get the Kobe surloin? Yeah. I was like, I get the surloin.

It has a better fat content there for more flavor. So nice job, Mike. I hope that you enjoyed the steak. But yeah, the fact that people really resonated with my steak talk. makes me very happy. It always works. My guess, is this cast finally done with me of the pathological liar? Pothodger? Lyer.

Lyer. God, I hope so. I think the cast is definitely dumb with her. I can't see a world where she comes back. I hope the show is done with her, but I think the cast is done with her. I just don't understand how she goes forward with any kind of. There's no redemption arc. There's nothing we want to see from her.

It's not like, you know, she's a guilty pleasure for some of the fans of the show. I don't think she has anybody that's like. Like, fuck, yeah, I'm a big Mia stand. Get her out of here. She almost fucked this whole season up. She did. From Robert Taylor, writer of stuff. Great username.

What do you do? Yeah, what do you write? What kind of stuff? Is this the episode that Wendy finally pushed through and became an A-tier housewife? Not a tier, but she is much better. I think that what you got from this season is a couple of housewives knocking on the door of that threshold. I think Giselle is in the running to take a step up. I think Wendy's in the running to take a step up.

And I think that's really exciting from a show that has had a couple of really shitty years where we were questioning the future of the show. I think that if these two can maintain this level through another season, then yes, they're in that conversation. Agreed. And last one here from Mayer Helwig. Do we think Karen is coming back next season? That video message was not awesome. I think she's probably coming back next season. I don't know.

I think it depends on whether or not she's in fucking prison. That's a good point. About that. Reporting from prison. Yeah, I don't, like I said, zero sympathy after that bullshit message. So I don't really care if she's back or not.

Good point. Yeah. Hopefully the next one's a little more in-depth. Rambunctious. Yeah, sure. I want it to be rambunctious. Sure. Maybe just more, I just want more to talk about.

You want bunchous. I just want more to talk about. Yeah. That would be bunched. There was in depth. Yeah. More in depth. Yeah, more in depth.

But I think it's probably just going to be a team up on Mia, which I'm here for. I'm here for that as well. And then finally get rid of her. And also maybe a team up on TJ, I think. I still don't know what's going on with that whole thing, but I can't wait. I always get a little like, oh, I want to know. Every time we get cliffhangers for things, this might be the most living rent free in my brain one that we've had. Because he's such a strange figure.

I have to know what this is. I can't wait. So hopefully that's the only reason I want it to be two parts is because I want to get to it faster. Yeah, that's a good point. I think we will get to it next week. But I hope so. By the way, I hope so. Is it a picture of him naked with Bugs Bunny?

God, I don't want to see that. Bugs Bunny. Hey Bugs. Hey Bugs. Bugs doesn't want that. No, not our bugs. This is the cool bugs. Cool bugs.

What's that bugs? Even though it's space jam with LeBron. That's okay. That's all right. That's okay. We're going to look past that. I just realized we have LeBron in here. What up, Ron.

And we got Lola Bunny. Can we end the episode? Did you have a crush on Lola Bunny? Yeah, of course. So did I. Isn't that weird when you think about it? I think every guy our age did. It's definitely weird.

Strange. Yeah. There's more there. Uh-huh. Anyway, you got anything else? Nope. That's our show. Brose got to go.

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