Bros & Shows - RHOSLC: Flawless Reunion, Flawless Season, Flawless Show (RHOSLC Reunion Pt. 3 Full Recap)

Episode Date: February 10, 2025

What's up Bros? It is with great sadness that we accept that this season of RHOSLC has officially come to an end. But not before we get to check in with Britani after her wild rollercoaster of a season. We get more Jared Osmond talk, we also find out that Jared had a lot to say to Bronwyn in a DM regarding the size of his penis. Strange. Angie and Britani discuss the wine incident. Britani brings up Meredith allegedly throwing up and crying on the girls trip. Lisa and Whitney square off one more time in hopes to "burn it" and move on. The group attempts to clear the air at the end in hopes to mend some fences. All in all, just a tremendous season, a tremendous effort from the Ladies of Salt Lake. We cannot wait for next year! Give your home the refresh it needs, head to Wayfair.com right now. Wayfair. Every style. Every home. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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because it happened. Because look, we can cry for two reasons. One, Roslick is officially over and two, we just did about 20 minutes of this podcast and someone forgot to hit record. Yeah. What a time to be alive for the bros.

God damn it. Hey, I just wanted to talk to you longer, pal. This is a way that I can delay the end of Rosslich just a little bit longer is by technical problems. Good afternoon, everybody. Welcome back to another episode of Bros and Shows.

I'm your co-host, Steele Russell, joined as always for the last time this season. Ross Lick Magoutz. What's up, dude? Well, as you heard in our intro, we lost about 15 to 20 minutes of unseasoned. footage and you will never get that back. I don't even know what we said, but we are going to try to replicate all of that. Yeah, we'll do our best. We'll probably do better the second time around. So you, the listener, will actually benefit from this because now we've had some time to warm up, so to speak. Yeah, you know, the voices are nice and warm and we processed a couple of

things. We figured a few things out. So this will be great the second time around. Hell yeah. At least it's recording now. So no matter what happens, we've got the footage. We've got the audio. But let's jump right in. I don't want to waste any time because we start out with Jared, Jared Osmond. And, you know, obviously we know that this is not true or it didn't last very long because they've allegedly been broken up since June, even though the group lists off multiple times that they have seen them out in public, making out. She's like, yeah, but we're just friends. We're just friends. Labels are no longer a part of their relationship.

They do not get to use labels anymore because of how absurd this relationship is. It works really well for you because you always have an issue with the semantics of relationships. For Brittany, we just throw all that out the window. We don't have to worry about any of that. We don't have to get the arguments about it. It doesn't matter because whatever she's saying is probably wrong or it's a lie or whatever it might be. It just simply doesn't matter. And again, the Salt Lake City production team comes through for us with a little editor's note.

They're actually Instagram official now. So good for that. I guess. I don't know. But he was allegedly going to come to the reunion, but then he canceled last minute. it and they're like well what happened i don't understand that part of it i don't know either like they're like well what happened and she's like it's the same stuff you know and the way that she describes it would be if she was dating somebody and there was a couple things that were

irritating her that yeah you know every time i come over his house is dirty or every time i call him he never answers the phone like little shit but it's not that her big like issue with him that she just can't seem to get past is the fact that he won't stop texting single women yeah pretty much massive fucking problem. Hey, you know, it's a slippery slope from he leaves dirty dishes in the sink or he doesn't throw his clothes in the hamper to he's just having a hard time not texting single women. There's just something about those single women that gets them going. We got to break that habit. We'll be all right. He just can't seem to stop. And you know how it goes? Like, he just can't stop. I'm like, oh, Jared, you're doing it again. You know how many beautiful,

there's a lot of beautiful children of God out there. We'd be doing a disservice to the church if Jared wasn't able to talk to them, you know? That's just embarrassing, man. I don't under, like, she lives on her own planet. She's in her own world. And these kind of definitions and explanations of everything prove that. She's so delusional. Like, that's what it comes down to.

You said that in the last episode. Like, she is just the most delusional person. And she twists her narrative and her reality to fit what works for her. And that's not how real life works. And, you know, they asked Bronwyn, do you think that she's just a attracted to the Osmond name. And she does dial that back a little bit. She's like, I don't know if that's it, but I have heard that Jared's the worst.

Like, everybody talks about how shitty Jared Osmond is. And if you need further proof, just look at Twitter, the way that he talked about Bronwyn calling her like a treacherous bitch and saying all these other things about her. He went on Twitter and said bad things about Brittany, the woman that he's quote unquote dating or paling around with whatever the fuck they want to call it. And it brings up this whole micro penis debacle. I guess at some point there was a scene and it was in the after show that brought it up and Bronwyn had made a reference to Jared's weiner saying that it was the smallest she heard the smallest thing in the world yep this is a rumor this is hearsay but you want to know how you think you want to know how you take a rumor and make it fact how you DM the person that claimed you had a micropenus and give the most micro penis energy in the history of little dick energy because that's all I can. some eyes from this is that Jared Osmond does in fact have a teeny little weenie because he

DMs her and he goes you're a little bitch and the backlash that I've gotten from this on social media I and I guarantee that I'm twice the size of anybody that you've been with and I could pick apart your anatomy but I'm going to take the high road it's like dude all you just did was confirm that you have a tiny penis because nobody in their right mind would DM a woman and say I'm twice as big as any guy you've been with. It's like sick, bro. No one cares about your dick size. We are not in high school.

This is such a non-issue. And the only thing that you did for yourself was get people to think that, oh, yeah, this guy must have a tiny weaner because why would he defend it so tremendously in a DM? And this is another thing. We bring it up all the time with dudes that open themselves up to this, guys that have skeletons in their closet that come on these shows. And they try to vie for the spotlight.

They try to steal the thunder from one of the houses. housewives. Why do you open yourself up to this shit? Because we would not be sitting here talking about you right now if you didn't bring yourself on the show. If you didn't DM a married woman about the size of your dick, we wouldn't be talking about it. Because guess what, Jared? We don't care about your dick. But here we are now talking about how small it is. Yeah. Because you perpetuate it. I think we should lay off of them because he did take the high road at the end of this by saying, I could rip your anatomy apart the way that you did to me, but I'm a classy guy. I'm going to take the high road here. You really took the high road there, Jared. You spent

all that time and energy writing that full paragraph in there ripping Bromwin apart because she talked about your dick, which was talked about on the show, but we didn't have to use that audio. And that's the other thing. This probably wouldn't have popped up if you didn't message Bronwyn. If you didn't take that extra step, if you weren't on Twitter being a complete asshole, disparaging Brittany who you're in a relationship with for now and talking about all the other women and talking about the show constantly on Twitter. If you just stayed quiet, this probably would have stayed by it. But instead, we have some unheard audio footage from Sean and Angie's anniversary party where a spa tech is talking about your dick. Says it to Bronwyn could have just stayed in there.

We probably wouldn't have had to break it out of the vault. But here we are. And I love Brittany's response to all of this. There is a full paragraph of him being an. absolute tyrant of him being a misogynist of him being a complete and utter asshole and bromwin or brittany's response is oh i didn't know about that last part i heard everything else i was cool with everything else everything else you deserved brahmann but that last part no no no i i she actually didn't even say that she draws the line there she just heard said that she didn't hear that

part so she read over everything else she was cool with it that last part took her by surprise she's not upset with it though no because she still wants to be jared ozman's Whatever, whatever that label might be at the current time. That's what she wants more than anything, that she looks the other way. This guy is a certified piece of shit. And not because other people are disparaging his name on TV, not because people are talking shit about your weener. Because you are coming on this show and going on social media and being a garbage person. That's why we don't like you.

It's because of you, not Britney. What an asshole. That's the best way to describe. He's just a big, giant asshole. And it goes further into, they're asking, do you think that Jared was using Britney to get famous? And it's like, no, I don't think he did that. He did say, you know, I got Britney on the show,

but like that's not one and the same. No, it is. He's taking credit for your appearance on this show. He's trying to piggyback on you. Not because Heather is friends with Brittany and brought her on the show, as it always works for Housewives. Let's get Jared Osmond in touch with Bravo. Sure, that's what happened.

That was Lisa that was friends with her, but yeah, wasn't it? No, it was Heather. It was Heather. Yeah. I just, that statement alone goes to tell you, like, that's what this guy thinks. He thinks he is trying to piggyback on Brittany, similar to him using the Osmond name to stay relevant. Again, dude, you have done nothing but be born onto Osmond Lane with a tiny penis, apparently. Good old-fashioned nippo bitch.

Yeah, little nepo bitch boy is all that Jared Osmond is, and I will say it a million times, because of him, not because of Britney. It's just so fucking funny. But she's like, this chapter's a thousand percent closed. It's like, oh, yeah, dude. And that's when they hit it with the caption where it's like, they are Instagram official after this. So the whole delusion is just crazy, but it gets to Britney's daughters and the opinions of the rest of the women on the show after finding out that she was a strange. from her kids and you know they do acknowledge that it's a tough situation and there are layers to this it is a nuanced thing but at the same time it's one of those things where it's like you told

everybody or you told angie on tv that you have prioritized men over the relationships with your kids so that's a tough place to come from especially with this group that prides themselves on being good mothers and they are like across the board you have a lot of very attentive mothers on this show. So it's going to land a little bit differently, especially when they see the way that you're moving throughout the season. What kind of pedestal you're putting Jared Osman on? The fact that you seem to talk about all the dudes that you're hanging out with. You bring a guy to a party and then Jared Osmond shows up. You have a lot of things going on, but we don't talk about your daughters a whole lot except for the moments where you see the groups all together and you come up and you say,

I have an announcement. And then you make an announcement about your kids. But you need to never it never comes up in casual conversation we don't see scenes about you and your daughters so yeah a lot of people are skeptical everybody skeptical and we know after watching all of this typically you do that when you want the focus to be off of you off of something bad that you did whatever it might be you use that to your advantage in mexico when you got called out for recording i love that everybody else is you know it's a balance between falling for it which we saw towards the end and not really giving a shit, which I think Bronwyn is the camp of not really caring about Brittany. Heather and Lisa might be the camp of, uh, yeah, let's give her the benefit of the doubt here. Mary's the only

one who stands out and calls her out for it. Like, yeah, you did that because you wanted the focus off of you, because you didn't want us to talk about it anymore, but it doesn't matter. Brittany is an enigma. She's not going to care. You can call her out for all the shit that she did. As we say a little bit later, you can call her out for the things that she says about herself. Nothing's going to land. it's just never going to work she's never going to change she's never going to do anything differently she's always going to be pining for jared's attention that's just who she is and she is not going to apologize for it because she thinks it's the right thing to do so it's it's absolutely insane to me and i guess what her daughter goes with her to new york so now you know it's it's a big thing and i guess that's good

we're not going to disparage any anybody trying to be a good mom but she herself said that she prioritizes men over her daughter. So like you're already kind of a bad mom. Like you can't say something like that and not get great for it. No. And let's say you have been a bad mom up until this point and you're trying to make amends. Okay, great. We are rooting for that. Just because you're a bizarre human being or an alien, we don't really know yet. We don't really know. We're not rooting for negative relationships with your daughters. We hope that you're able to figure that out. We hope that she's able to come together with them and move forward. That would be wonderful for the kids and for her. you shouldn't do, what you definitely shouldn't do, especially when we have video evidence of

your casting tape, is try to place the blame on Bronwyn for the estrangement of your daughters when Bronwyn just fucking met you. And she's like, yeah, for six months, what? Bronwyn had nothing to do with this. Bronwyn was clearly gossiping with some women about it, which I'm sure other women have as well. And yeah, we have come to learn that Bronwyn is more shady than we thought she was so was it out of pocket probably but at the same time she's just presenting information that she has heard through the grapevine because of you this is your problem and then it goes from six months and she's like well she talked to my friend and then my friends were telling my daughters that your mom's using you on the show which also by the way not wrong it's not wrong and also are

they your friends if they're talking to your daughters about them being used for the show clearly You're concerned. Yeah. So there's a lot more here than just Brahmin spreading rumors about me and telling my daughters wrong things that's making it harder for me to reconnect with my daughters. Like, no, nobody believes this. Not one person believes this. And Brahmin doesn't even have to put up that much of a defense.

She could just continue to say, I never talk to your daughters. I believe that Bronwyn has probably never spoken directly to your daughters. If she's gossiping with other women, and I'm sure the way that this is presented, And there's other women that know you that might have a line to your daughters that might run into your daughters, whatever it might be, that are talking about it because they're concerned of what you're doing. They are concerned about their well-being. So if that's what they're doing and they're going to Bramwin and saying, hey, you were on the show with her this year. What's your, what's your vibe on this? What's your perspective on what the hell Brittany's doing?

Bromwin's going to be honest. You're honest. She's not saying anything that you didn't say yourself. So I just don't understand it. And again, we're just stuck in this whole fucking loop of, why are we trying to understand what, what Britney's thinking and why she's thinking it? She doesn't even know why she's thinking or what she's thinking because she also says for six months. And then two minutes later, she's like, for three months, I was, it's like, is it six or three? Is there Bronwyn's fault or not?

No, she doesn't keep track of it. That's the problem. She's not a good mom. No, she keeps trying to throw things out there. And again, hopefully she's able to repair the relationship with her daughters. But this, the lack of accountability in this moment alone to try to put it on Bronwyn. It's crazy. This is your fault.

You prioritized relationships over your daughters. You admitted that. And once again, we have a moment where Brittany says something that is used against her later, and she doesn't like how it sounds. And we'll get to that in a minute. Tim's new scrambled egg loaded croissant. Or is it croissant? No matter how you say it.

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I think Heather said that. That's the best way to put it. Because throughout the entire season, we've watched Britney drink. We've watched her talk about her relationships with men, casual, they may be. No one cares. Do you? You're an adult. You can drink wine.

You can go point some randos. It doesn't fucking matter. You're a grown up. And guess what? In this day and age, literally nobody cares. The church will care. And that's when Heather says, you're living this double life right now. And she's like, what? No, I'm not.

She's like, you are because if you were an active Mormon in the Mormon church, you're not allowed to drink, you're not allowed to have premarital sex. You're doing both of those things. You're talking about it when it's convenient for you. But then you get on a high horse when somebody tries to give you wine or repeat something that you've said verbatim in doing three guys. That's when you take an issue because then you're like, oh, shit, this is going to look bad for the church. and there is not a worse defense than if Lisa Barlow is coming to your defense about what it means to be a Mormon.

Because she is very much not. She's a Mormon 2.0, what she says, but she doesn't follow any of the guidelines. Yeah, the rest of them are sitting there with Heather, Bromlin, all of them talking about the same thing. Like, no, we understand that it's kind of hard when you're trying to do this, but at the same time, you're making it very much more difficult to deal with you because you're just trying to balance on both sides of this. saying one thing, doing another, then getting upset about it the next week. Lisa talking about it makes no sense at all. She just has no awareness of what it is.

And look, maybe it is. We don't know a whole lot about the actual inner workings of each. What's the word for congregation? What was the word they used? Do you remember? Oh, for Mormons? Yeah, they had it. It was a single word, single syllable.

I can't remember. Whatever. It doesn't matter. I'm going to move past it. Yeah, we'll call it a flock. From flock to flock. in the Mormonism church. Quit flocking around.

Everybody's flocking around. They're flocking back and forth. But the way that it works for most of them is that you can't drink. You can't have premarital sex. And you're going to get judged if you're a single mother. There are things that the rest of these women can adhere to that can speak up and say, yeah, no, I had to go through that. It was very difficult.

Brittany's not using them to say, yeah, you get it. You understand. That's how you make friendships. That's how you build emotional connections. instead she's saying you don't get it and it's like whatever you guys don't understand you guys don't understand he was kicked out of the church for an affair brawn was kicked out of the church because she had a child out of wedlock when she was a teenager heather has written two books about being a quote unquote bad Mormon and how much the church fucked her up so let's not sit here

and act like we don't have some evidence to support and that's like you just said what an easy moment for brittany to be like you guys understand how hard it is and she's like not fuck all of you guys you don't get it Lisa gets it Lisa's like I bet you can't say who is it who is it Mormon it's like you're not with how good this show was in this season specifically I will probably go back and rewatch this at some point I'm going to try to focus in on all of the moments that Bronwyn could have actually made a friend that she just chose not to because there probably is a lot there's probably I can think of at least three or four different instances where she's sharing and somebody else steps in and says yeah you know what I've gone through something like that

you could have made a friend there instead within 24 hours you turn around and say how dare you say that to me that's not me at all it's just ruin my relationship with Jared like we'll call him uh mfm's missed friend moments by brittany yeah yeah if you can try to keep a tally that would be great but we get to the slut-shaming incident and Bronwyn points out that brittney says a lot of things about herself and then when they're mirrored and repeated to her she doesn't like the way they sound such a as all Angie really did in this moment was repeat what you had told her. And we have footage of that party. It was an unseen footage moment through earlier in the season. And it shows Brittany saying, yeah, I'm doing three guys right now. And Angie's like, would your dad be okay with you doing three guys? Like, this is a convo that you had with Angie. So when Angie brings it up, she's not slut-shaming you.

And I do like the fact that people come to Angie's defense for the whole bot mitzvah incident because Meredith did overreact. didn't get both sides of the story she was well she was looking for a reason she was already security was there because if Angie overstepped and did something that Meredith didn't like she was going to kick her out and make a scene of it

which was incredible don't get me wrong I love every second of that but yeah it's it's just crazy to me and I like that Bronwyn is able to stay composed in this and that's the thing when it comes to Brittany everybody's really able to stay composed while talking to her because she's

so crazy you just can't take her Seriously. Like she's not a threat. There's no issue. She's not going to bring something up that's going to make you play defense. You can just form a full thought and there's no issue at all. So I like the Brahma took this approach because she even looked at Angie and said, yeah, I mean, the porn star comment was a little too far. But she was already activated at that point. So I'm going to excuse that. She's just repeating what Brittany said. And Brittany even said about her dad. Yeah, you know, that's kind of how he lived his life. So I don't think there's going to be any issues there. It's like, okay, well, there's a little bit more to this. Maybe you could share. Maybe you could talk about. your parents. Maybe you can get a little deeper with some of these women. No, we're not going to do that. I'm just going to completely change my tune in the next day and just act like I never said that. Yeah. Yeah. And Andy changes the subject to, did it feel good when you admitted that you were having sexual relationships with that man or sexual relations with that man? And she's like, yeah, it felt like this huge weight lifted off my shoulder. And I'm sitting watching this like, and I'm like, fuck, are we really going to do this again? Are we really going to skate

by the fact that this whole thing was just a diversion tactic from her answering about the video that she was recording on the bus. Thank God for Mary, because she's like, can we just, like, can we point out that she never answered for what she was doing? We were talking about her recording on the bus. And then she threw this shit out there. She's like, well, I was trying to show good faith. I was trying to show that I'm not a liar.

It's like, no, this makes you seem like you're up to something and you're sketchy as shit because you did lie. And she's also still. contesting the fact that she wasn't recording. She's still stuck on that. She said that it's only been a few seconds and then she even blamed editing saying maybe that was edited in there. It wasn't that long.

We can't like do time travel with editing. That's not how that works. Oh, okay. All right. Well, I was just filming the scenery. No, you weren't. You were trying to just fucking cop to it. It's just very easy. Just cop to it. And I think that if this was somebody else, if it wasn't

Brittany, because everybody's just pegged her for who she is and she's crazy, if it was any of the actual mainstays on the cast doing this, this would be a huge sticking point for the rest of the season until they admitted that they did it. But it's Brittany. So it's like, here we go again.

Let's just leave it alone. We can at least call out that you tried to deflect by bringing something up and you thought it was this big moment. And that's what I was saying earlier, where you get somebody like Heather and even Bronwyn stepping in saying, yeah, that is really hard. She just admitted that. But the other people don't care.

And Mary doesn't like her at all. So she's, of course, going to point it out. And that is the truth. That is exactly what she was trying. to do nobody else caught on to it because they thought she was just sharing but that's insane to me how do you not see this how do you not see that she's just deflecting from it to try to get out of it i have no idea and they go like you said they go through the excuses it was the scenery

congrats on a test it was because i wanted to talk to olivia and i was also saving the video for later she's like there was all one in the same you know it was all true it's like no it's not and then a lot of them are like look we watched the scene and if you watch the scene back it just shows are clearly recording the conversation getting caught and then hitting the stop record button immediately and her defense is that was abusive and i still haven't recovered from it it's like tough shit play stupid games win stupid prizes you deserve the backlash and especially this is all on the tail of monica garcia this group is very protective of outside influences because of the monica shit so when they see you being sneaky and trying to record it brings them back to

to reality von T's. It brings them back to a dark time for this show. They don't like that. So the whole defense that she has, like you said, just simply say, you know what, I thought it was a funny moment. I was trying to record it

because I was going to send it to some people to show them how wacky this group is and I got caught. Yeah. She just thinks that usually her case is just denied, deny, deny, and people get over it. I think that people are just tired of dealing with you and that's more likely the case here.

Yeah, I mean, that definitely tracks more than anything else. But we get to Puerto Vallerta and we get into Lisa and Bronwyn. But Lisa does point out that there was some parts missing to this whole thing. And she said, I wanted Bronwyn to have the biggest room, which is in the other villa because of the dog bite. It was the same room that I had. So I wanted her out of the same room. I believe that about the dog bite at all. You didn't, but I did like, yeah, I do remember that.

We just glossed over the fact that she had a mangled arm and a mangled leg and we're just like, we're not going to discuss this let's get on the plane and fly but i do believe that lisa gave her the big room intentionally you so do you think that she because i had this thought too i think that this was up front like all right let's give her the bigger room let's make her comfortable but because of bramwin's reaction she didn't tell her that i think that's true yeah i'm with you i could see that where you know there's a lot of people in the discourse online was saying you know that she thought of this later. She just gave her the bigger room, but it was just a coincidence and she thought this was a good excuse. Like, I don't think so. I think she really did give her the bigger room. And because

Brahman reacted acting like she was alienating her from the rest of the group by putting her with the rejects over there, she's like, fuck that. I'm not going to tell her that I did this out of the kindness of my own heart. I did this because I wanted to help you, but now fuck you. I'm going to make you think that. So I think that that's probably the case. Yeah, I think there's some merit to that. And I think as we get into the Lisa drama throughout the season, you know, her big issue this season has been lack of accountability for a lot of people. It seems that the Lisa Barlow schick that she's gotten away with for a very long time

is starting to wear thin. And we talked about throughout the season. And we've noticed the women getting a little more irritated by it, the fact that she's always playing the victim, the fact that if people press her at all, she always goes to the defense of, well, that's who I am. If you don't like me, then deal with it.

It's like, well, that's not taking accountability. And in a lot of these instances, you are wrong. And the conundrum that is Lisa Barlow is when she does these things, I don't think she's intentionally malicious. I think that she's in her own world. I think that she is very selfish. And I think that it gets her in trouble because she doesn't think things through before saying them. And then her first instinct is to get defensive to try to explain these things, why she's doing it. And by doing that, it emboldens her to be like, yeah, see,

I'm not in the wrong, but it's like, yeah, but you don't understand how that comment affects other people. Or, like, for example, facetiming Heather in the hot tub in Palm Springs, you don't think that you're wrong. You say that everyone's going to apologize to me at the end of this. It's like, objectively speaking, the host of the trip is not cool with this person,

and you just facetime them from the hot tub with no thought as to how that would affect Bronman. That embodies exactly what people's issue with Lisa. She doesn't have foresight to be like, oh, maybe this is a bad move for the people around me. It goes into the Todd shit on the boat and the lack of defense that she gave for Bronwyn. And we saw it happen live and we know that that's what happened. And it shows the scene again, I forgot that after Angie gets off the boat and says,

I feel bad for Lisa's response is, oh, it's oh, Todd's going to be so pissed. So she's like, oh, surprised that anybody feels sorry for. And again, you feel bad for Bronwyn after all of that? I feel bad for Todd, that he has to watch this on TV. like that's not the right reaction Lisa no and her defense to that is like well after that you know you were saying fuck Todd this and fuck Todd that and so then when I defend him then now you're changing your tune and defending him it's she's like I'm allowed to say what I want about my marriage correct you are allowed to talk about your own marriage you can say whatever you

want because it's your marriage but when you talk about my marriage that's a problem just like when people talk about your marriage or even reference John or your kids you go off the deep end even if it's nothing bad you act like it's the end of the world so this double standard that we see relentlessly with lisa barlow no matter what the topic is she's held to a different standard in her own mind and it does appear that this was like the first full season of people trying to shake her so that she can see that but because lisa is lisa she will always get into this shell and defend her stance rather than just say oh i didn't see it that way that wasn't my intention because I do believe that.

I don't believe her intention is to be an asshole. I don't think it is either. She just only thinks about herself. Yeah. Yes. Like that's the only thing. The only things that actually matter to Lisa are things that are actually going to affect her or her family.

And she even says that a little bit later too when she's talking about her family. But that is her mentality. She does not think about how other things are going to impact other people around her. She just does what she wants, says what she wants. In any given time, she's not thinking, even if there's a huge, dramatic thing going on around her. She doesn't think about the implications ever. She has no social awareness.

She only has Lisa awareness, which is just who she is. That's a good way to put it. The faster that she can just admit to that and say, you know what, guys, that's just who I am. I only think about me and mine. Okay. Great. Maybe you can open up a little bit more about the other people.

No? Okay. All right, fine. At least you admitted that that's how you are. Stop trying to create this facade of, I was doing this for you and I was defending you here. I'm such a good friend. There is no defense. You never, you absolutely never defend anybody unless we can draw some sort of like path back to Lisa.

Like how is this actually going to impact you? If it's just you sticking up for a friend, we've never seen it. Yeah. And she calls out Bronwyn. She's like, I've never seen you stand up for me. It's like, whoa, whoa, whoa, Miss Lippy. Yeah. We have multiple scenes throughout the season where she does stick up for you.

We watched it. She was trying to do whatever she could to be your friend because she wants to be. The whole beginning third of the season, she defended her. And obviously there was a turning point. And that's what happened. That's what happened and that's what will happen when it's a one-sided friendship. You had your chance to repay the favor on the boat and you took Todd's side. Yep.

That's all it is. And actions have consequences. So you burnt that bridge and then you act so surprised and you throw it back on Bronwyn when shit falls apart. Mm-hmm. Like that's, it's Lisa Barlow 101. But we get into Meredith crying and allegedly throwing up and Brittany stands by this. She's like, I woke up, and the sound of vomiting is irrefutable. I knew what I heard.

I woke up to it. And we get a great Meredith moment because she just, she's like, I'm so sick of the lies. You do not know. Were you in my room? You're a liar. And we get the Gandalf. I don't even doubt, though. Like, I don't think that Brittany has any reason to lie about that.

Like, she probably did hear her throwing up. But Meredith, just because of who it's coming from is not going to admit it. If it was like me, same thing. She's also concerned of the implication. Yeah, and look, I mean, you can explain away the implication. You can make everything go away. I think it's just because it's coming from Brittany. She's like, absolutely not.

I was not throwing up. It's like, yeah, you probably were. I mean, she's not wrong. The sound of throwing up is not something that you mistake for anything else. A sound of crying on the phone is not something that you mistake for anything else. She probably was doing that. And we even heard it at the last part of that Puerto Vallerta trip, you could hear everything from outside the room. when everybody else is standing out there and you're yelling at Lisa.

That's pretty much what we hear. So I don't doubt it, but it's Britney, so I don't really care. And it doesn't really have any implications on anything else. And it also delivers us some very funny Meredith moments. So I'm not going to hate it. But that's the best way to put it. It is like, remember your source. No one cares.

If you let this go, it's over. But you give attention to it. So now people are like, well, why were you throwing up? And again, my first thought's not eating disorder. My first thought is, flu, drank too much, like, doesn't feel great, fish. I don't know, something. Maccasuma's revenge, I don't know. Yeah, do you drink the water, drink the tap water?

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Jen Shaw saying, look, she's served her time, she's paid restitution, she's admitted wrongdoing. It's like, no, no, no, no, no, no, he is still serving time. She got a comically shortened sentence. It is continuing to get shortened. She is not in the free and clear. I've said this a million times. I do believe in the prison reform system. If you serve your time and you come out and then you prove that.

after the fact that you're no longer a piece of shit. By all means, continue to live your life. Move forward. She hasn't done that yet. She's still in jail. She's still serving time. She's still paying restitution. So no, she's not done with any of this.

And it is. I think alarming is the right word, too, because you can see the rest of the women on the cast. You're like, what the fuck? Like, why are we talking to Jen? Heather kept her fucking mouth shut the whole time. She didn't see a worse. And Heather's not on. Yeah.

Well, she said she's not on the call. list and she hasn't spoken to her which you know what i have no reason to believe that she is but probably would be and the fact that meredith is not only talking to her but brings it up at the reunion and also says and defends what she's doing saying that she is on the right track back that is alarming i don't want to hear that and thanks god again for mary stepping in because no mary would not receive a call from jenshaw and if she did she would not talk to jen shaw and thank God, again for Mary, because she points out that she lied to everybody. Meredith, who has such an issue with liars, Lisa, who has such an issue with liars, you guys

should be looking at Jen and saying you're the biggest liar of them all. You might not be on Monica's level because it's a completely different thing, but you lied to all of us. Why are you now all of a sudden allowing somebody back into your life, allowing somebody to call you from prison after lying to you for that long? That's insane. That's insane. Amma amongst the group.

Yeah. Why don't defend it either. Be like, yeah, I answered the phone. Like, it was a weird conversation. You know, she called me. So I talked to her. I'm not forgiving her. Like, she has a long way to go.

Like, there's so many different ways to go about it. There's like, you don't believe in second chances. It's like, yeah. Yeah. No. No. Redemption for Jen,

where we want to start that arc right now? No, Meredith. You of all people should not start that arc. She robbed old people. Like, no. That's just not a thing. But she accused. view of spreading rumors that led to her arrest.

Like, why are you talking to her? I don't fucking know. But let's get to the text because like Bronwyn says, and she kind of echoes what the audience thinks. Like, I wish everyone committed to this whole thing because we obviously got Brittany's answer. Lisa didn't go. Meredith didn't go.

So for the ones that actually did it, it did seem cathartic. It did seem like it solved some issues. People were able to move forward. And I feel like Bronwyn should be the person that talks about this because what Angie said about her was, It was cutting. Yeah, that was ruthless.

If Brahmin could look back at that and say, you know what? It was cathartic. It was good to get all that out in the open. I wish you guys did that. You should be listening to her because she got absolutely skewered. I know. So the fact that we get stuck on the Lisa threesome rumor, which, yeah, was it dirty for Whitney to bring that up for sure? That was a different level.

It was weird. But at the same time, it's such a laughable rumor. It's like such a non-issue that if she had, looking back now, if she had not responded and it could have been because it came from Whitney and obviously there's a history there and I won't discredit that part of it like yeah it's more inflammatory coming from her and yeah this does throw an allegation out there but her response by bringing Sean into it was weird and throwing out another gay rumor about him and then to get up from the table and leave it was like well you didn't have to give this much life to it you could have just said like this is fucking insane thanks for telling me I guess but here we go again Whitney like something like that not saying you need to be kumbaya with her after that because it's still a damning rumor but the reaction i don't think was was necessary because it just looks bad on her but whitney's trying to do the absolute most now she's like why can't you just burn it just burn it it's like dude you're fourth on the couch yep like settle down like can we let lisa talk and just spin whatever narrative she wants to spin about this then you can

respond but it's just this crazy back and forth and once again Lisa pulls into her shell and defends everything. She's like, I was the youngest of six, so I'm very protective of my family, and I've always been a good friend. I put people's needs above my own, and Brahman's shaking her head. And she's like, why are you shaking her? She's like, you just tried to pull your phone out to say some shit about me. Yep. This is when Lisa puts her foot in her mouth. It's like, you're not a good friend. You don't think about other people. That's okay. I mean, we watched you ignore your husband after you asked him a question, and you guys were alone in a room together. Yeah. You are self-centered.

but lean into it. Admit it. Just be like, that's me. Like, you say it all the time. That's me. I'm Lisa Barlow. If you don't like it, get the fuck out. Like, yeah. So just own it because it makes way more sense than you continuously defending your shortcomings. Because you don't look inward. You don't change. No. And we do say, and we have said in the last couple of episodes, I think at the first reunion episode, that people do go after Lisa all the time because she is the HBIC. She is the one who's leading the charge at this part. So, yeah, you have to expect people to come after. you but you can't say everybody's always coming after me like it is a double edge thing where you can't be sitting there saying oh my god everybody comes after me all the time it's so tiring

you like being the head of the head of the table head of the cast you love being the face of this show so you can't sit there and say i don't understand why people come after me all the time it would go so far if you could just let that roll off and laugh at things and make sure the people stay where they are because that is the role that you need to lead so sitting here and about everybody coming after you all the time is tiring because you do open yourself up to people making comments like yeah you're not a good friend there is so much material there's so many examples of lisa not being a good friend as we said earlier she has lisa awareness and nothing else there is something to be said about that and if you just owned it it would go such a long

way because that would solidify you as the head right now it looks like you're vulnerable it looks like you're open and people can come take your spot there's weaknesses and if you keep doing this You might have to take a step back, and you don't want to do that because you want to be the face. So it's just so funny to me that she's going to sit there and cry about everybody going after her and not being a good friend because you're not a good friend. Just own it. That's it. It would do you a lot of favors. There would be less to pick on you about because you like, yeah, I need to work on it.

Bye. Very simple. But you get like a kumbaya moment at the end, I guess, where Whitney and Lisa, you know, she's like, look, I hate you, but I love you. I got a place to my heart for you. Yeah, it was a little seat switcheroo. Yeah, the sweet sit down the first time I've seen that. And it looks like they're cool. Then she's like,

yeah, but she just needs to take accountability. She's like, here we go about accountability. I'm like, oh, we were so close. We're so close.

But they're able to come together and it does seem like most of the riffs in this group are at least on the way to being mended, as we know from some Twitter battles. There's still some people at odds. There's still some. Yeah. But you know what?

They're in a much better place. And it sets up for another fucking incredible season too. I know. Because you kind of see where the forms are going to head. Like where the factions are going to head. Like where the factions are going to. start forming rather where you're going to see probably something like angie obviously angie and mary very close mary's been starting a lot more it seems like she's enjoying being a bigger part of this

show be having some input she's a lot more open to a lot of different things i think bromwin's going to be on that side as well we're not going to have such a crazy divide in between because it looks like some of these things were repaired and obviously whitney's going to go right back to being at lisa's neck the entire fucking season because that's what she does you're going to have heather floating but it looks like we have a really great cast and even to the point where Britney's still in the back she, for whatever reason, I don't know why she left the stage

I guess just because she's a friend though. They probably told her to you. You can keep her out there. I would have had no issues with that. And it's even funnier that she's standing on the edge like, I should be out there. I want to hear a nice text message. I want a beer. She got a beer. She just wasn't able to cheers anybody, which is even funny. Yeah, it's really good. They have such a

great cast and if they make any changes at all, I'm going to be so furious. I'm going to be so upset because this is setting up again for such a great season. These dynamics are so perfect that there's nothing that you should change at all. And I love that. And that's what I hope as we're getting out of this season, an incredible fucking season. I don't want anything to change because they are in such a good spot. I agree.

Perfectly said, but let's get to some questions and finish this bad boy up. And a great one to start with is from Petrovan. Was anyone else scared that Brittany was going to run back to stage after she was told to leave? I wasn't scared. I was hopeful. I was hopeful. I was hopeful she'd get back out there. Oh, man.

From, oh, interesting. From Gianna G.D. Imperio. Who claimed Lisa is the HBIC? Because she's not mine. Look, you can argue it. Yeah, but I think that she is the head of the show. Yeah. From Face of the Angel, does any other show ever have a chance of matching this perfect season?

Hashtag Go Birds. Hell yeah, go birds. It's a tall order. I think they have, yeah, it's a tall order, but if we were to say that any other show wouldn't have a chance to match this, we'd be selling ourselves short because we want everybody to try to match this. Right? We want another good show. We want another great season. So I'm not going to say that they don't have a chance because that would be closing off our minds. And you know what happens when you close off your imagination? You don't have a fun time. You grow up and then you get kicked out of the lost boys. Right? Yeah From High Pony Studio Shooter now that season is done

Do you think Angie was deserving of center Snowflake I think she deserves something in the center area but still very center I don't think so Yeah I think she deserves it I think she deserves it deserves it

I think she brought more this season I think that it's seen the season More but like center snowflakes now I don't think so I think so Let's do one more And I won't read the name but I do want to reference this because I don't want to blast you for asking the question

but not a question but did Heather lose the ability to see what's right and wrong when she lost the weight I would like to stop asking weight centric questions yeah okay because I think that's that's not fair to say I think people grow involved regardless

of their weight and I don't think that it had anything to do with it and I feel like the more that we allow for these kinds of questions to happen the more Heather has to read her name the comments and her weight and that has to fucking stink so uh no i don't think so and i would i would hope that we can separate ourselves from weight questions and also that was a question you can't say not a question and then ask a question just because that's also mark there yeah but i don't want

let's be better let's just be better last last last one because we didn't talk about it from daly clem did you guys choke up with and mary saying such nice words about each other yes i thought that was sweet i love that it's such a nice send-off for mary who had such a crazy season such a great season in our eyes such a tough time i you know what all the roses to her yeah she did a phenomenal job she did look everyone brought it great fucking here for so many different reasons drama emotions laughs cries smiles you name it we did it but until next season we will continue to think about this one but uh yeah bravo to the ladies of rosslet because that was a perfect season it really was

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