Bros & Shows - RHOSLC Returns, Todd Whines on IG, Valley Too Dark for TV? (News Week of 8/18/25)

Episode Date: August 21, 2025

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What rhymes with boss stick? I don't know. Ross lick. Jesus. I said boss stick, not boss dick, for the record. Whose dick? This is what happens when I can't think of anything for the news. Yeah, we don't know.

I think we just need to, why don't we just like AI it, you know? To create a theme, another theme song with AI. Bros and Shows, Bros and Shows, Bros. And Shows. I gotta have me now, Bros. and Shows. Good afternoon, everybody. Welcome back to another episode of Bros. and Shows. I am your co-host, Steele Russell, joined, as always, by first on the scene, Gooder McGeen. That's me? Yeah. Oh, okay. Yeah, I was, I don't know who it could be. It could be anybody. There's Gooters all over the place. Everyone knows a Gooder. You can see them coming from a mile away. I don't know if you can see him, but you can sure smell them.

Hey, hey. Oh, yeah, first on the scene over here. I'm getting back into the swing of these news episodes. It's nice to have these every week because it's a little, in a weird way, it's almost like a decompression state where we don't have to follow a full structure. We don't have to go through a whole show. We're not going to miss anything. It's whatever the hell we want to talk about.

Yeah, and there's a lot of random shit we're going to cover today. But I like these episodes, too. we get to be a little, uh, free form, freestyle, you know? And you know, I love a good freestyle. I know you love to freestyle. Uh, no. Would you ever? No.

I think it's embarrassing. How much money would it take for you to freestyle? Like, reasonably. 10,000? Shut the fuck up. Like, honest. Five, that's ridiculous. In this economy?

What is $500 going to do for me? I don't know. But you would turn down 500 bucks if we were at a bar and I, if I got you drunk and offered you $100 to freestyle, you would do it. I would just sing, I miss you, White Blinquent 82. I mean, yeah, but you already do that. I already do that anyway.

I mean, a quarter of a bar, I'm probably singing it to myself. Yep, if you can get him tuned up, just go put that song on and he will start to sing. Oh, actually, that reminds me of something. So I met a fan the other day. Nice. I was on vacation.

Believe her name was Katrina. Not positive. I'm so sorry, Katrina. Look, he's not trying to seem like he's cooler than this. So that's just bad. I suck with names because I, even if I'm really paying attention, it's in one area or the other. Same here, but I wouldn't do what you're doing. I would have stuck with, oh, man, I just can't remember her name.

Well, it was nice. She was up in Cape May for her son's graduation from the Coast Guard. That was pretty cool. And then her daughter-in-law was with her, and they were just hanging out of the bar, drinking, having a couple of apps. You know how it goes. And they sent us a round of drinks. Oh, that's nice. Which was very nice.

I, of course, sent a round of drinks back. Nice. Thus creating a paradox. Oh, a drink is going to be very fun. And she got really mad at me that I sent it back. She's like, what the hell are you doing? I'm like, yeah, I'm going to set it back. We can do this all night.

We can go back and forth. That's always one of those. And then we'll get into like news and stuff. But it's a tough topic because you're sober. Well, no, not that. I'm saying like when it comes to the... Grats on seven years, by the way. Thank you very much.

Yeah, just celebrated my seventh year. Put that episode out today. but there's a level of that where once you buy a drink back, is it not borderline disrespectful to the gift that they gave you? You know what I'm saying? I see. I have no idea. You're being polite by sending drinks back.

Yeah. But is that also spitting in the face of the nice gesture? I thought it was funny and for exactly what she said, like, we can do this all night. I'm like, oh, I'll do it. I have no problems here. We can go back and forth. I think that's really funny too because I know, like, we talk about shit. all the time. And you hear, like, podcasters, you hear people, like, influencers and

stuff. And they're out there doing all this shit. And then you run into them in the wild and they're not, like, filming or doing something. They're completely different. Usually. You run into one of us. We're pretty much the same person. I'd like to think so. Yeah. If you catch me at a bar, I'm drinking. I'm not like, I, uh, someone came up to me, a listener at the, uh, the Phillies game. And I feel like I get spotted the most at Phillies games and probably because my overalls, it's an easy target. And I tell everybody on here that I wear the overalls. So, yeah, I was standing in line for crab fries, and this woman came up to me. It was like, and it's always the same thing.

Podcast? That or are you steal? Oh, okay. There you go. That works, too. But I forget that people may recognize us. Yeah, you're a little bit more apparent. I'm like, yeah?

I feel like I kind of blend in a little bit, but if somebody sees me and knows me, they'll come over and it's usually just a point and a podcast. Point and podcast? Yeah, no, for me, it's always, are you steal a question mark? And then I have to figure out why they're asking me, which takes. When they're saying it, they're also spelling it wrong, by the way. S-T-E-E-E-L-E. I can tell the way they're saying it.

But, yeah, it takes me like 10 seconds because then they usually follow it up with, like, love the podcast. I'm like, oh, okay, that's why. You're not just walking up and going, hey, and guessing my name. That's the other thing that we kind of fall into, too, in Philly, because we know so many people. Well, it's a small city. It's a big city, but it's like a small town. Yeah, so it could be anyone. So usually the podcast question is like, all right, I know who you are.

Yeah, cool. That works. Yep. But, yeah, so shout out to Katrina, if that's her name. If it's not, I'm so sorry. I would have remembered me. This is actually kind of funny, and this is going to embarrass her. But her daughter-in-law said, yeah, I heard her listening to you guys in the shower earlier,

and she got really mad at her. Now I'm telling everybody. This didn't go out Katrina wanted it together. No, but, you know, it probably went wrong. You told an embarrassing story. I hate this podcast. It probably went as expected, I would imagine. So, yeah.

So shout out to Katrina. Maybe. Yeah, and if you see us in the wild, you can say hi. Sure. Send me a drink. I'm sending you one back. Yeah, he will every time. That's how it's going to work. He sent me a drink. You're an asshole.

Yeah, well, that's a different story for a different day. But yeah, so let's get into some news. And I feel like the beginning part of this, we should just break down and do a little preview of the trailer of Salt Lake. Yeah, that's why we started out with my great Roslick joke, because the trailer dropped. And we've been waiting for this for a while. I don't think Bravo does this intentionally. I just think that they forget about shit and I'm like, oh, fuck, we should put the trailer out.

It comes out in like two weeks. Maybe we should tease it. I think it's calculated on their part, but I do think they're completely wrong. They're bad at promoting. The marketing is so dumb. Everybody that's watching, if you put it during OC, they will then watch Salt Lake.

Why are we releasing? And I know a lot of this is social media driven, so you're just going to release it and it's going to get reshared, quote tweeted, whatever it might be. But why are we doing this? I know it comes out on the 16th September. we should be talking about this.

You should have little snippets. You love to give us these like seven minute intros, like days before the episode starts, but you can't give us a damn trailer. You can't give us multiple trailers. You can't give us a little bit of information here or there. Drop like an after show or something, like the week before. I think that would be awesome, especially right now. There's nothing on.

There is truly nothing on. The valleys over. Atlanta ended. We've got O.C., we've got Miami. And then there's below decks on, which I've been watching a little bit here and there. but the blowdex stuff is just too hard to keep on. Keep on track for it. There's just so much going on.

But otherwise, what do you be doing? And I know we'll talk about ladies of London. I keep wanting to call it Housewives of London, which you can't really watch unless you have a VPN. No, we're going to have Ladies of London. We are. That's the one. They're coming out with both. There's real Housewives of London.

On ladies of London. Yes. Yes. Hey you. Hi, you. However you say it. That's in London or England and they're going to have ladies of London. No, that's real housewives of London.

Correct. Peacock's getting ladies of London. Correct. Which one is Stanberry involved in? Ladies, I believe. Well, that's what she was involved in. I know. She was ladies. I don't even want to say it out loud.

Dubai. The franchise that must not be named. Somebody's been like, I guess for whatever reason. You remember Sarah from Dubai? Yeah. She was in an interview. I liked Sarah, actually. Yeah, I thought she was fine.

I turned Chanel. She was in an interview, and I don't even know if this was recent, but it's been circulating with all the people that don't even know who she is, she popped up and she said one of the dumbest quotes I've ever seen in my life, and I still remember it, I was told one time that you're not supposed to love your job, you're supposed to job your love. It's like, what does that mean? Yeah, that's not a thing. That's not a thing. It's not a language barrier either. That's just wrong. What is the verb of job? How do you job? No idea. Your job? Steve Jobs. Jobbing sounds like it's.

dirty. Job of the hut was dirty. Well, yeah, but that's not what I'm saying. I'm saying if you're like jobbing. If I, you could do a good job of the hut, I feel like. I have to watch it again. I can do Jar Jar Binks, but I can't do. I can do Jarjar. I don't want to do Jarger. I can do Jar Jar. I can also do a really good stitch from Lilo and Stitch. I do that for my daughter, but only for her. But back to my point.

Sort of in the realm. I feel like that's a, it's a flat circle for a Venn diagram of Jar Jar Jor Binks and Stitch. Well, they're both also in this universe. voice actor. Well, hey. Oh, are we talking Star Wars? Yeah, let's talk a little, a little canon, if you will, because if you watch one of the Star Wars, I think it's one of the new...

You're already wrong about this, by the way. It's alien. No, no, no. It's Alien Earth. Let me talk. Okay. You're talking about Stitch. No.

Okay. No, no. So, Disney owns Star Wars now, obviously. Disney owns Leadle and Stitch, all that, blah, blah, blah. In Star Wars, I think episode. one, two, or three, one of the newer, but not newest ones. Aidan Christensen. Yes.

Yep. They have the big council, you know, it's like the podium in the middle and all those just, what are they balconies, people looking in? You know what I'm talking about? The pods? Is it pods? The Senate? Yeah, it's a Senate. So in one of those pods, if you watch closely, E.T.

and other E.T. lookalikes. Oh, right. Yeah. Okay. So Jar Jar Binks, technically, is in the same universe as Stitch. How about that? Disney, Disney. Oh, okay.

Stitch is in Star Wars. Right. Okay. Well, Hulu released an alien show that I'm going to watch. I think it's called Alien Earth. I saw that on. And in Alien Earth, you can see they're watching Lilo and Stitch. Oh, that's cool.

So Stitch is canon. But you're trying to explain to me. You're trying to mansplain something totally different. Yeah, whatever. It's crazy that Stitch has popped up in multiple pieces of media. The new movie's great. Oh, yeah. So I just watched the live action.

Anyway, Bravo. Bravo stuff, right. Let me paint a picture. This is, by the way, what we're going to do when there is no Bravo news because Bravo withholds so much shit now. We're going to do a news episode and we're going to just spitball. We're just going to see what the hell happens. I think it's going to be more like, it's still going to be very freeform,

but I think it's going to be more like this is what else we're watching because we don't just watch. What else are watching? And next week I am, and I swear I'm actually doing this. I already started the process. We are going to have our voicemail set up. Ah, there we go. We call into the voicemail. And if there's a funny one or a good question, we will play your voicemail live on the air.

at us. That would be great. Yeah, you could do that, too. Kind of whatever you want. I'd rather you do that than give us like a one-star review. Somebody gave us a one-star review and said, eh, I don't really need to watch Shooter Vap. Yeah. Like, what the fuck?

Go listen to it then. Someone else left one that was three stars, and it was five stars for shooter, one star for steel. That one I understand, but that one I get. That makes a lot of sense to me. But if you're listening to this and you enjoy us, give us a little five-star review. Yeah.

Give us a shout-out. Follow us everywhere. Do our shit. We, yeah. That was a plug. Plug. We never plug. We never plug. Back to Bravo. We should plug. We should. We should. We should. We go back to Bravo. Let's plug one more thing. Oh. September 11th, we are doing a live show in Philadelphia at the city winery. Tickets have already started selling quick, so make sure you go get yours. You can go to the link in our Instagram bio. Tickets are $20 to $25.

Very affordable. Come on out, hang out with us. We're going to talk some Bravo. I think we might have a guest. I'm talking to two people. people right now. We'll see how that goes, but we should have a special guest to come out as well. We'll let you know what the topic is. We're probably going to recap a recent episode of a franchise, something on Bravo. But again, it is Thursday, September 11th, 730, doors open at six. Go get your tickets. Come hang out with the bros. And I'm going to need, this is going to be a special request. Somebody's going to have to order me beers of that place. Oh, yeah. Because we found this out when we did Zach Show. You get a beer, you walk up there, and then you're done. We

We, where were we, multiple shows, actually, and other city winers? We were able to just, like, kind of keep them coming. Like, get me a water. Well, I mean, you got multiple waters. You can get, like, a coffee or something on stage. For whatever reason, yeah, we just kind of get left up to dry. And if I only have one beer going into that, it's going to be tough. You're going to get tired.

Make sure a shooter gets drunk. Yeah, there you go. That's the shout out that we need. You're going to, by the way, if anyone hears this, they're going to buy you. You're going to have 40 beers up there. That's going to be interesting. Yeah, I'll cut you off. I'll have to, no, I'll just commission somebody to help me out.

On stage? Yeah. Sure. Why not? Maybe a guest? Oh, yeah. Yeah, we'll tell you guys when we get closer who the guest is. But back to Bravo, my point was what I was trying to say, to the Roslick trailer.

What if, you know, call me crazy, but what if you said, because you want more people to watch Miami, you say, during the episode of Miami tonight, we will be releasing the Salt Lake trailer. So in the middle of the episode goes to. commercial. You get the Salt Lake trailer like they do on a lot of other networks. And then, boom, now you get promotion for Miami. You get promotion for Salt Lake. I think it works for a certain demographic. And I don't think that demographic would even see it unless it was a commercial because I think for the most part, it's so social media driven that even if you announce, okay, here it comes, you're going to release it on social media. It's going to get reshared that way.

I'm doing it the same time. Yeah, you could do at the same time. There's nothing holding you back. No. Bravo. You've got built in slots, every commercial break for your own content. Why not stick it in the middle of peacock like i don't understand like this goes to my problem with miami because there is no i mean zero promotion for miami when the trailers drop there's barely a buzz and we're watching one of the better seasons we've seen in a very long time right now so bravo like i don't understand the lack of advertising i don't understand that we'll get commercials on direct tv of fucking teresa judice and kyle richards one franchise that's no longer airing and another dying franchise, but we don't see any Salt Lake, we don't see any Miami. Those are the

two heavy hitters right now, and we're not giving them any airtime. So I would love to see them shift the way they promote things so that some of these other shows can start getting some traction. What if Southern Hospitality got some more promotion? That's a good show. It would be huge. Yeah. It would be massive. What if you started doing that and throwing it together and having people talk about it? Why aren't we like, I do think that Bravo as a whole as a channel needs to move towards the, I don't want to say like content creation, but I want to say more like, sort of like a podcast format. Like, you're already kind of doing it with the after shows. Oh, this is it. The day you finally ask for that big promotion. You're in front of your mirror

with your Starbucks coffee. Be confident. Assertive. Remember eye contact. But also remember to blink. Smile, but not too much. That's weird. What if you aren't any good at your job? What if they dim out you instead? Okay. Don't be silly. You're smart. You're driven. You're going to be late if you keep talking to the mirror. This promotion is yours. Go get them. Starbucks. It's never just coffee.

The white chocolate macadamia cream cold brew from Starbucks is made just the way you like it. Handcrafted cold foam topped with toasted cookie crumble. It's a sweet summer twist on iced coffee. Your cold brew is ready at Starbucks. Hey, Michael. Hey, Tom. Big news to share it, right? Yes, huge, monumental, earth-shaking.

Heartbeat sound effect, big. Mates is back. That's right. After a brief snack nap. We're coming back. We're picking snacks? We're eating snacks. We're raiding snacks.

Like the snackologist we were born to be. Mates is back. Mike and Tom, eat snacks. Wherever you get your podcasts. Unless you get them from a snack machine, in which case, call us. If you need to find a place for people that are still under contract, like a Lala or, you know, Sheena or whatever, and you've got Tom Sandoval under contract.

You've got people who are no longer on shows that they're on, but, you know, they're still kind of floating around. Have them sit down and have them discuss what's going on. Have them discuss a show. Then you get so much more content out of it. And again, you know, obviously that's our job. That's what we're doing here. But also, if you're going to put it on the program,

you could have right after Watch what happens live at 1030 at night when people are still like, okay, cool, like, let's move on. Maybe we can turn something else on. No, actually, here's something. Tom Schwartz and Tom Sandoval sitting down talking about Southern hospitality and how it reminds them of the early VPR days. Like, shit like that could be interesting and I'm surprised they haven't like thrown a lot of that against the wall. Bravo run down. Yeah, exactly.

Like that would be interesting and don't just stick some idiot on there that nobody knows or don't like pluck somebody or one of us or something. That would be stupid. Although. No, it would be dumb for us. No, no, no, no. Not one bravo. This just gave me a good idea. That's all.

We gave me an idea. We've talked about it before. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Stay tuned. Stay tuned for that one. But I agree with you. It's sort of like for anybody who watches sports, if you turn on ESPN and you're watching something random, you're watching SportsCenter, they will blast you with commercials

of their Monday night football game and who's playing. Every single commercial break. You will know this is what we have going on Monday night. We've got this college football matchup on Saturday night. They do it all the time because they own the network and they can do whatever they want. Bravo owns the network. They can do whatever they want. So it is crazy to me that they don't.

just keep pounding it out there. I don't get it. Especially for the franchises that are really good that people aren't watching. And I know Salt Lake's gotten back up there. But the fact that Salt Lake still doesn't have as many viewers as like an OC is crazy. Stupid. It's stupid. And that would be concerning to me if I was a Bravo executive. If I was looking at that and I'm like, this is a really good show. This is a great cast. This is great content. Why is this not performing as well as this? Instead, they're just sitting there and they're like, wow, look at OC. It's still perform and still making us money. It's like, you've got to change that. Correct. So, I don't know.

But let's get into the trailer a little bit. Okay. I'm sure by now everybody's seen it. There's a couple of good quips in there. We've got the ladies in some powdered wigs, it looks like. It looks like we're taking a trip to Greece. Finally, Angie Kay, we're going to Greece. Hopefully this, I know it's a good running bit for the grease thing.

Hopefully this puts it to bed, though. No shot. This is going to send it to a different atmosphere. Enough. Like, we get it. We know you're Greek. And it has been funny. And I think we've even said this like two or three years ago at this point.

It's going to go through. ups and downs. Oh, yeah. We got really annoyed by the Greek shit in the first season that she was on. Then it went back down and we're like, okay, this is actually kind of funny again. And then we got really annoyed again. So it's kind of going back and forth. Eventually, it's going to have to die.

I can't do it. This should be the final send-off for the Greek. Here's the thing. Not Angie. Angie's great. No, Angie's phenomenal. But the thing with running bits and this is a me thing, I get to a point where I think it's funny if it's so.

overplayed. Yeah. Like if it's to the point that people are like, oh my God, and she doubles down, I respect that. Yeah. So I actually don't care if we get the Greek jokes, but I am excited to see her in Greece. Yeah, her in Greece would be great, and I think she's going to overdo it, which is going to be funny, and it's going to annoy people. How bigger her glasses is going to be? Oh, dude, they have to be massive. I just want other people to show up and have bigger glasses. That's a funny bit. That's a really funny bit. That's a really funny bit. Like if Lisa Barlow pulls up with some massive glasses on just to outshine Angie because they're beefing. Like those prop ones that, like, I would love, yeah, someone needs to do that.

But what else do we have in that trailer? We got your favorite line, sucking gout dick or something like that. Yeah, you gouted dick sucker. Yeah, that one's incredible talking to Bromwin about Todd. That's hilarious. There's a couple of teases in there and, you know, we're well versed in this trailer stuff. We know that the things that you think are going to happen aren't really going to happen, such as Brittany saying, you know, there's talks of a mistress and it's referring to because

we go right to Bronwyn. Is it Todd? Is it J.B.? Is it somebody else? It's not going to be any of those. It's going to be Jared. Yeah. For sure.

And is that even a mistress? Like he's not married. So like I don't, you know, whatever. But it's going to be Jared. Let's be very honest. And I think Brittany is just going to continue down that, which if everything else is hidden, I'm fine with it because it's a comedic relief. Oh, yeah.

Of course they did. They're currently broken up, I believe, which means they should. be back together. They're probably together on the show for a little bit and then bring back up in the middle of it. I'm cool with no Jared Osmond. I don't want to see them, but I'm okay with alluding to him and talking about them. That's fair.

I'm very curious because it looks like Lisa and J.B. Husband boss get into it a little bit. Again, they're probably leading us a direction that doesn't do much. I'm sure that has something to do with somebody else. I'm sure they're fine. But I'm curious to see how Lisa does this season. Last year, we saw her get a little more rattled than we've seen in the past. So I do still think she's the leader of this group, but I do think that a lot of the other housewives have gotten,

they got confident last season. They did. They definitely got confident. And one thing I'll take away from the trailer, not a lot of Heather, which is interesting. But we've seen her sort of take a back seat and just kind of pop up when necessary. And I think...

Well, we've seen her like take center stage and it was not great. No, and it's not great. And I think she understands that. And people, they hold her to a weird standard because it's a lot of people that don't like Heather Day. think Heather Gay's fine. I think she's great. And I think it's people that don't really like her that are saying, oh, yeah, she didn't do anything this season. It's like, okay, you should be happy that she didn't do anything. Like, instead, we're hitting on all cylinders. Everybody

else is coming out firing, every other drama, all the other things that are going on, all the relationships falling apart. It's all really good TV. We don't really want or need Heather to take center stage because we've seen that before and it's not fun. Heather's great as supporting. Yes. Like the funny quips. If there's a moment where we need to kind of like lock everybody in and have a tough conversation. If we need a dinner setup that's going to lead to the tough conversation, if you need her to say something that's clearly produced for some reason that lands better than she says it. Like that's where she lives. And when she tries to be the ringleader, I just don't think it plays to her strengths. No, I think she tried

that out and it didn't work. Yeah. And that's kind of fine, honestly, as long as she's okay with taking her backseat. But there also wasn't a lot of Whitney. So that's good, in my opinion. I agree. I don't think I want a lot of Whitney because Whitney's story. line last year was talking to a podcaster and getting dirt and then rummaging through some shit, creating some rumors, doing all this and that, going after Lisa, which, like, she just can't. It just never hits. Even if you don't really like Lisa Barlow, which is kind of crazy to me, if you don't like her, you still understand that Whitney can't hold a candle to her.

So there's no point. Because you watch the Whitney arguments, and they don't make any sense. She starts in a random place and ends up somewhere totally different. So it's like, it's not even fun to watch because you're watching two people. people argue, but have two totally different conversations. So I'm good with Whitney. Whitney's a similar role. I'd say Heather's, Heather does better on the show.

Yeah, well, I think Whitney's dead last in the power rankings. I agree. I don't think Heather's even bottom two. I think she's higher than that. But I do think that what we need, what I would like to see this season, I would like to see Lisa Barlow kind of return to form. Not that she had a bad season last year, but I don't want her to get as rattled. I want her to be the HVSC.

I think that's just sort of her. formula, though. I think that she holds her own for so long and then eventually it does get to her. grumbles. Or even if it doesn't really get to her and she just needs a fucking break. She'll just do that and just have a meltdown, walk away. And then by the next episode, we're fine. Like, that's what makes her so great is that she can have a meltdown at the end of a huge episode on a trip or wherever the hell they are. And then the next episode, we're talking about it, but she's fine.

You know what I mean? And she's still holding other people accountable for the things that happened. And she's saying that she's tired of it. But at the same time, she can handle her own. So I think that's what makes her so great. And I think her and Meredith are going to get closer again. we saw that a little bit last year. We've seen little things here and there

where Meredith's been DJing pretty much all summer and now we're seeing Lisa pop up at her shows and now Lisa's singing while Meredith is DJing. So it seems like it's working out. I think we're going to get a friendship out of the two of them. They're going to get nice and close this year. And I think Mary's going to be a wild card. We're going back to church with Mary.

I'm so glad we're going back to church with Mary. I hope that we dive into it a little bit more. I don't think so because she clearly doesn't want people to know that much about it. But what I really would like to see this season above all else. One, I'm curious about Bronwyn's sophomore season. Yeah.

She has a lot to prove. She started out hot last year, took a weird turn, and now we know this season she's had some allegations against her that apparently shoplifting and bankruptcy fraud and so I'm curious to see how that plays out. I want to see how she does this season. I hope that she comes in kind of middle of the road and just plays organic. See where it takes you. I think she's going to hold over.

a little bit from last season and she's going to go after Lisa right from the game. I think that's what she's going to do, but more so, I'm okay with her doing that if she can hold her own. Because that was the problem. Once she started getting pressed last year, it was not great for her.

Yeah, she crumbled a little bit. She crumbled a lot. And she, I mean, she went from, and this was one of our curses because we did start doing the newcomer of the year. Three or four people we've done this too. I don't remember who the other people were. I mean, we could do that for the entire cast the new rony but um but with brahman we gave her that title like the fourth episode fifth episode

we're like she's great she's playing both sides she knows exactly what she's doing and then she got absolutely skewered by the end and she dropped it and we were still doing power rankings i think she was at the bottom of both our power rankings were like yeah this isn't good she's not handling herself that well so i i just want to be able to see her at least hold her on at least don't shy away from it when people press you because people are going to press you. I think she's going to be all right. And also no gang-ups. I don't want to see gang-ups.

I don't want to see gang-ups this season unless here's the one thing above all else that I would like to see. Gang-up on who? Not even a gang-up. I'm just ready for Meredith Marks to be held to the fire a little bit. I'm ready for her to not sidestep the DMs, not sidestep stuff that people have heard about her because she deflects and points them in a different direction. She's wildly successful at doing that.

Like, I've never seen someone's sidestep so many things and have no repercussions. And I'm not saying, like, let's crucify Meredith. I'm just saying somebody press her to the point that she wants to kick you out of her bar mitzer, or bat mitzv, excuse me, but then keep going. Yeah. Like, I want to see Meredith get pressed to the point where she has to, has to defend herself a little bit. Because when we see that, like in the past, the best moments we've gotten, you know,

was two, was that two seasons ago at the Trixie Motel? with the husbands. Yeah, that was two seasons ago. Last season was in the sprinter van. That's where we get those moments. But that's where we get those. And they're so good. And I would like to see more of that this season,

especially if her and Lisa are teaming back up. It's a formidable group. It's a formidable duo. But I feel like there's enough beef in the group with Lisa or with Meredith. We might see some clashing of some factions. We could definitely see some clashing of some factions. And I do think that the two of them

against the rest of the group is a fair fight. I do too. As weird as that is, because it's two against, what, four or five if you throw Brittany in there? So I think it's a pretty good fight. Brittany's like half a point. Whitney's half a point. Yeah, I don't know what kind of role Brittany is going to get this year. I can't even...

It needs to be the same as it was. It has to be exactly the same as... No more, no less. Like, it's the perfect amount. She was great when she was on screen for nothing intentional. No. Like, everything she does is funny. Keep it there.

Don't give us more. It's going to run out. The only thing I wonder with Meredith is, are we going to get into Seth Rumors? Is that what we're going to be talking about this year? Because we heard a lot about that a couple of months ago, probably when they were filming. When he was in Ohio, was there a mistress? Was there this? Was there that?

Is there a second family? Yeah, like shit like that. That we've kind of been alluding to. And I think they even teased it before the reunion. And then we got to the reunion and they just made very light of it. It was very bizarre because we thought we were getting more. And instead he just made a bunch of jokes. I would love for that to happen.

Not, I would not, well, not that part. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Not, I wouldn't love if he had a second family. I would love if we get into that. I just wanted to be, weirdly, I'd love if he had a second family. That would be awesome. That would be remarkable television. Unfortunate for them, but incredible for us.

So, yeah, I think we'll probably, there's going to be a little bit of that, little bit of this when it comes to Seth. And, I mean, the rest of them just keep doing the same thing. That's all we want from you. Honestly. Keep things consistent because this would now be. the third season in a row if this is good, where it's just

great TV. Yeah. There's nothing else to talk about, really. Yeah, I had no notes last season except Ronwin, and that's, she's a newbie, so I didn't take that much stock in it. But I want to talk about Miami now. Okay. Because if there's one thing that Todd is good at, it's making a video

that is too long, long-winded, and self-serving. And complaining about Bravo producers. Correct. So, So Todd went on Instagram and made, I believe, like, a seven to ten minute video, which we've seen one of these in the past when he apologized to Anthony. Yeah. Seven to ten minute video talking about the fact that he's been falsely portrayed for years and there's manipulation from the network and they're bullying. And if he's going to set the record straight, he's got to do it on his own.

So I'm taken to Instagram because people take me seriously. Yeah. No one takes Todd seriously at all. I wonder why he's even doing this because it's weeks removed from Alexia herself talking shit about Todd. Other people are talking about how they don't want Alexia to be with Todd. They're not saying anything. Alexia is the one who's saying that you lease all of your cars and you don't buy anything and that you're having financial problems.

If you didn't want her to do that, maybe don't fucking burn her and pick her out of your apartment. Is this video just for Alexia? Like, again, the other women are just having her back and they're concerned about the relationship because of how Alexia is in the relationship with Todd. Yes. They're not really saying anything bad about Todd. So why is this video coming out now? Well, they're alluding to bad things with Todd. Sure.

That's Todd's fault. Yeah, and it's also reality TV. That's how that works. Yeah, I don't understand why he's doing it. And it's another one of those things. We talked about it with, oh, gosh, who else was it? somebody came on the show as a boyfriend or something like that. I don't think it was T.J.

But they didn't want people talking from Bugs Bunny. Oh, Jesus. Yeah. But it's this weird thing where you don't want people to talk about you, but you're putting yourself out there. Todd, we're really not talking about you that much this season. We're talking about you in reference of Alexia still being with you. Right. but as far as like specifics we're not discussing it guess what we're going to do now we're going to talk about you yeah and we're also going to roast you because you're an idiot that's my point

yeah so this didn't like vindicate you or set the record straight or get the truth out there we were fine with not even really talking about you all we're talking about even as like on this side of the road is just talking about how alexia being with you is impacting the show yeah how it's impacting her friendships we're not even talking bad about you now we are because you're a loser you open the door and i don't know if you're attention hungry if you're a little sad i mean that's why you know what i think it is genuinely i think that he's jealous of alexia and the the clout that she has yeah probably and like this is his way of like trying to do more because maybe he's upset that he's not featured in this season at all

yeah see i i i don't know and i think that's sort of what he he put himself into that place because because he had such a bad reaction to last year and all the things that were going on. You hid in the gym. Yeah, you hid in the gym and we found out about that because Adriana ran into you, but you had a conversation with her and you told her point blank that you weren't going to go up there because he didn't want to be on camera and he didn't want to be with those people. Right. So you did that to yourself again.

But now you want to be back on TV and you want to put things out there on socials because you know it's going to get picked up by people and talk about you. I don't. But because you're a loser. Yeah. Yeah. Dude sucks. I don't want to like put my

Psychologist hat on Feel free But I guess I will This is why you and Alexia will never work If you are truly feeling this way Then just go talk to Alexia about it No we wouldn't do that I know you're already done filming for this season

But like if we're going to continue this Like maybe don't talk about me too much Or maybe don't allude to things Or maybe we'll just put a pause And just kind of see where we go from here and I'll be able to figure things out like have a conversation with Alexia don't put this shit out there now

and Alexia if you're also looking at this and you're looking at Todd's thing that should make you run the other direction you would think why do you want to deal with this guy I don't know yeah and I do know or at least I think I do I think I know where this is coming from now I think he's blaming production

for airing the fact that Alexia said he rents everything I genuinely think he saw that and was like that's bullshit I'm going after the producers because now he's embarrassed that people know but that's the other thing todd we never thought you owned shit no we've all thought that you rent your stuff yeah like we've heard you guys have financial problems so soon as you guys got separated yeah we figured it was a some sort of money grab yep it was some sort of financial situation that you were just trying to skate

out of there just use it for whatever so i don't know it's just a funny move it's a very funny move i always love when people do this it's just dumb yeah i don't know man not smart you don't to be in the spotlight. Yeah, you put yourself out in the spotlight. Yeah. Here, the most popular fiction podcast of all time, which the New York Times described as what might occur if David Lynch was a producer at your local radio station. Welcome to Night Vale is a twice-monthly update from a small desert town, where the paranormal is real. Every conspiracy theory is true. We all have to get on with our lives anyway. Welcome to Night Vale is available wherever you get your podcasts. Hi, I'm here to tell you about Good Morning Night Vale. Welcome to Nightvale's official recap show and

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Oh yeah, did you see who's in it? Page to Sorbell. He gets a whole cameo. There's a lot of people in it, actually. I was running through the whole list of all the people that are making cameos. A lot of it's like content creators, podcasters, but usually in like the fashion world.

Wow, that's why we're not on it. Cool to see Paige get in there. That is cool. What a blow-up. Yeah. No, that's awesome for her, honestly. And the other part of that news is the other part of the Giggly Squad. Did you see the rumor about Hannah?

Oh, God. No. She paid somebody, well, she didn't pay. She had someone or commissioned someone to write jokes for her and then never paid them. Which, you know, just kind of confirms everything, like, obviously. She was never funny. She was, like, never funny. The fact that she got a Netflix special is wild.

The only reason that that that podcast, was ever famous was because Page was on it. That's what I've heard a lot of people. I don't know that much. They're continuing that, so, like, it's fine. But, like, Hannah was never interesting or fun or funny. And, yeah, this is kind of just where you go. I haven't heard that she's not paying her people.

That's fucked up. She's had a bad ear. Yeah. Weird shit with Meg the Stallion. That was fucking bizarre. Yeah. And now this. So, yeah, tough year for her.

Thank God you have Paige to ride her coattails. Yeah, rate the ship a little bit, appear in a movie. Yeah, no shit. Pretty sweet. I think I have one more thing. Okay. Which this can lead into a different discussion, but the traders, which will be getting season, what is it, season four?

This would be season four coming out. Season one was Kyle Cook and the random season two was Fadra in that crew. Season three is one was the spot. So, yeah, so we do get Dorenda back, of course, as we know. But they're also going to be recording and filming another season. with all civilians. Yeah, normies. A couple of normies,

which makes me feel like they're going in the right direction, because I do like, if you're going to have both, which obviously we're all going to tune in for the Bravo celebrities, for any reality TV celebrities, or if you get like movie stars

or athletes or whatever, it's always going to be fun to watch them, just kind of like navigate the castle and see Allen and all those things. But if you get normies in there, it's actually a fun show. I agree. It would be a fun show.

And I hope they're truly normies and not fucking influencers. If they're micro-influencers, I'm going to pull my hair out. Yeah, I don't want to see that. Because it's on the same network, I do, if it is full Normie, I get some hope from Love Island, too, because it's the same network that they'll go with the same thing. They're definitely going to go that route for... They have to. People are blasting them still. They've already spoken out about it. Yeah. The fact that they, like, where they

fucked that up. But I like that they're doing them separately because I want to see B-List celebrities go after each other, and I want to watch Normies go after each other. I don't want anyone to be starstruck or anything like that. So I'm excited that they're doing. I'm excited that they're split them up. It also leaves the door open for you and I. Oh yeah. We could be on the skaters. That would be great. I would just want to go hang out with Alan. That's really all I want to do, honestly. I don't know if we have the fashion for it though, but I guess if it's Normie's not expected. Yeah, you got to take some risks. Take some risks. The fashion's all about. That's all you got to do. I'm excited for both of those seasons. I saw they're doing the Normie one, which that

that'll be, I think that'll be good. And like you said, it gives us hope for Love Island that they're going to go the same direction because obviously there's been a lot of feedback about last season so we shall see uh we've got the love island reunion on monday so if you're listening to this this will be out uh wednesday love island reunion will be out monday we will have it recorded ready to roll by the next day and we'll probably have it out that wednesday if it is what i think it is because i don't did you you didn't really watch the low very no i heard a lot of people have been leaving comments that it's not that great no it's not so i do hope and it was just Ariana running it herself last year.

Andy's doing it this year, right? I think that they put Andy in there to make it better so that at least it kind of like he, look, he structures. He knows how to reunion. Yeah. I think that that's the logical way to go is have an expert to it. He's going to, I don't know if it's going to be good, but he's going to get the most out of it that you can.

Yeah, absolutely. And he's already had a couple of them, which I think was very stupid, but I guess it was just promotion, which Bravo is not very good at, promotion for the reunion that's going to air. He had six people on, or I guess how many people do you have? Whatever. He had four people on Watch What Happens Live. He had Nick and O'Landria and he had Amia and Brian. Are Nick

and Alandria still together? Yes, supposedly. We said if they're still together at the reunion, we will eat our words. I don't know if I ever agreed to that, but I will. They were on Watch What Happens Live and he kept asking them questions, and they can't answer. Oh, no. Because it's the reunion. Reunion, right.

So he had them, no, they filmed it last. week, I think it was, and then he had them on that night because they were all in New York, had four of them on, and then kept asking questions like, who do you think was the most genuine? And they're like, oh, we'll get into that in the reunion. It's like, okay, why are we here? That's fun. Yeah,

no. So it was just promotion to say, hey, these guys are in New York because we just film the reunion. I'm curious. So I think it's I haven't heard anything otherwise, so I assume it's just one part, one Monday night. Yeah, there's no way to stick out. I imagine. I'm curious about that. There are some things that I want to see

like check in with certain people. Do you see Pepe making it rain at the, was that? Which game was that? It was Big Three, but it was Celebrity Big Three. Yeah. Yeah.

You look pretty good out there. Look pretty good. I wonder if the Enforcer was there, coaching a team. That would be really funny. That would actually be really funny. But we'll have that out next week. That'll be a nice little special episode,

maybe two episodes. We'll have to split it up if it's a little long. Give you guys some time. There's enough content. we'll split it up. Yeah, if there's not and we're just very confused as to what's going on and where everybody stands, we'll dwindle it down to one. Mm-hmm.

And then I have a couple of things to talk about, and then we can wrap this up. First and foremost, and these are two just like little fun ones. Go for it. I guess this one's not that fun. But did you see the Time magazine article about the Valley? Yeah. Saying that it's too dark for TV and they need to take it off. What were the ratings of this?

This season did pretty well, right? Season did really well. And everybody knows that it was dark, but the whole time article was, it's not enough to just get rid of Jack's Taylor. You have to get rid of everybody. Why? What?

No. Like, no, this is typical reality TV shit. Like, we see this stuff on housewives. Like, blaming somebody and claiming that they have a drinking problem is a housewife 101. Honestly, what happens. It happens in every franchise. It's a little bit more interesting when it's,

you know, two women in their 50s yelling at each other saying that while they're both drunk. but this was not really much different. It annoyed us, but it's not much different, and there's still a lot of things going on there. So time, well, let's just say time has been on the wrong side of history a lot. Well, does anybody read magazines anymore? I don't know.

I assume it's all online at this point, but, I mean, just don't ask time who their men of the year were for a while. Yeah. Multiple different instances. Oh, time. Time doesn't really understand what's going. They actually had last week a list of the 100 most influential podcasts. Oh, yeah, it was bizarre.

It was so heavily biased. Like, you can sit here, like, I don't give a shit about the Joe Rogan experience or the whatever his podcast is called. I don't care. I think a lot of dickheads listen to it, but. Objectively speaking. Objectively speaking, it's number one, like, every week. It's not right now. Midas Touch has been number one for a long time.

What's that? It's a political podcast on Midas Touch. Okay. I don't know if that one. made it to the list, because I just kind of skimmed through it. But, yeah, there were a lot of notable missing podcasts on that. You have to, it wasn't, part of my take wasn't even on there, which is been top five in the sports world for 10 years now.

It's been like the number one sports cup podcast for like 10 years. Yeah. So you can't just ignore certain ones because he might not like who they are. I don't like Joe Rogan either, but I will acknowledge that he's got one of the biggest following. Which is like, is time just falling into the clickbait thing? probably that's that's the problem that I run into all the time online a lot of like most content is just engagement farming it's engagement farming it's clickbait it's all

bullshit it's just like rage bait just to get people pissed off and leave a comment so annoying yeah shut out no integrity anymore nope that's why you guys listen to us we're full of tagrity we yeah we hear tagrity farms we hear a tagrity farm which by the way if you haven't watched any south bark this holy fantastic it's so good it is so yeah I also love that they're doing it and they've always done it this way but they just keep delaying episodes because they're like, oh shit, new stuff, let's do it. Well, with things going

on right now, if you wait one day, the entire landscape is different. So I've, yeah, if you haven't watched that this season, it is absolutely stellar television, nailing it. Get yourself, uh, that, I do think now Paramount is going to be a useful streaming service. After that, yeah, after

well, they signed up one, that was the best part. One and a half billion dollars. Some certain people said, because they were mad, said that this show's irrelevant. It's like, this show just signed a $1.5 billion deal. If that's irrelevant. And then made fun of CBS and Paramount immediately, by the way. Which is so good. Yeah, it's a great season.

Viewer of discretion advised. Also, if you're a Dexter fan, Dexter Resurrection Rocks. Oh, yeah, I need to get into that. That one's on my list. Yeah, you can skip. I don't know how they did it, but they had two, I'm assuming you've seen the original season finale or series finale. Oh, God, yeah.

Which was awful. It's one of the worst rated episodes. That and like, I think that was worse than the Sopranos finale. It was for sure. The fall off on that should be studied. But you can also study how much better it is because every episode of this season has like a 9.5, 9.6 on IMD. Big. That show is so good. You love to see it.

Michael C. Hall. He deserves it. That guy's a great actor. The craziest is like, and then I got one more thing. him and Deb were married for a long time then they got divorced

and they were still cool to... Rumors that Julia Stiles broke them up when she was on season 5. Yeah, I know that's the big rumors that he got styled.

He got styled. And then she didn't come back. The last thing I want to talk about is a little real estate. Okay. The Dubros. Do bros. Got fucking smoked on that house.

Yeah, they just needed to get rid of the asset, I guess. They listed it for $25 million. This is the house that they bought. planned on renovating, realized that it was too big of a project because they're not there that much. I think she was hitting at a Beverly Hills move, but we'll see. They wanted to list that house because they put like four to five in it, four to five. We both got confused when they said it. I was very confused. Four to five million. The goal was to turn it into like a $60 million house. They said they didn't need it. They listed it for 25. It's sold for 16.5, which is what they

paid that's what they paid for it originally before they put four to five million dollars into rental so and I know this is like jump change to them they lost four to five million dollars they basically just rented a house that they were never at uh who was it was it was it Mia Thornton they pulled a Mia Thornton but it's funny when you compare those two because Mia and I still think it's an outrageous number to put into a rental but she claims that they put 60,000 into it which is a lot different than $4 to $5 million. But I'm sure we're going to see that at some point when we're done with Nola.

We'll be coming home. They'll probably do one last little final check-in. They'll have Josh Flagg there to kind of run down everything. And then we'll just kind of leave it at that because we've already seen what happened. I wonder if anyone's going to bring that out. That's great ammo for next season. And I don't think anyone's going to use it. No, probably not.

But they should. Like, oh, yeah, well, you can't flip houses. It'd be funny if Gina did. If you had a better realtor Oh, Gina. Yeah, but then that would lead that a very sad Yeah, it would. Because Heather and Terry have all of the money

and Gina just got some money. Yeah. I don't think you want to start that fight. Probably not. I think Heather would make her cry. Yeah, a thousand percent. And then she'd make a weird joke about Travis's balls. Yeah, weird.

No, thanks. But, yeah, that's the catch-up. There's not a whole lot going on, but there will be more to discuss next week, as you know, this stuff changes a lot. Sure does. Much like the real news cycle. Just wait a day and some shit's going to pop off, unfortunately.

But that's all I got. You got anything else? Nope. That's our show. Bros. Gotta go. Here, the most popular fiction podcast of all time, which the New York Times described as what might occur if David Lynch was a producer at your local radio station.

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