Bros & Shows - RHOSLC Returns Without Lisa Barlow?!? (RHOSLC Full Recap)

Episode Date: September 17, 2025

What is up Bros?! RHOSCL HATH RETURNED and not a day too soon. This episode kicks off with and RV trip for the ladies. Noticeably missing is Lisa Barlow as she has an "important business thing" but the real tea is that she wont sleep in an RV with Bronwyn. Bold move to miss the premiere and it seems to have hit the group in a bad way. Heather gives us the low down on where everyone stands. Brittany cant help herself and makes not one but TWO Jared Osmond announcements. It seems that the group is split on reactions regarding Lisa. Britany apparently is now BFF's with Lisa and immediately jumps to her defense. Whitney Angie and Mary all have questions about Lisa's behavior and the double standard when it comes to LB. Meredith want's to wait until Lisa can defend herself and we end up learning about 5 lawsuits surrounding both Lisa and Vida Tequila. While Lisa was absent from the premiere, these ladies have returned to form immediately with some Blair Witch camera work and some A grade shade being thrown. Buckle up Bros, we are so back. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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I got to have me my pros and shows. Bros and shows. Brows and shows. I got to have me my bros and shows. Good. good afternoon everybody welcome back to another episode of bros and shows i'm your co-host steel russell joined as always by the one and only it's been a long time ross lick mgoots what's up dude hasn't really been a long time honestly i feel like this season ended what six months ago i don't

really know for sure but it doesn't feel like it's been super long yeah it feels super long because we've had to slog through some uh some really just unwatchable content before we can get back to real TV. Yeah, maybe that was it. Maybe it's not actually like the time frame in which we have had to wait. But time is relative. Okay, just ask guys. Look, this first episode or recording early, we actually got a screener for this. We always get screeners for like season premieres. And then they just don't give us anything else. I don't know why. It drives me nuts. But yeah, so we don't get to hear from you guys at the end of the episode. So don't worry, that'll be back because we'll be watching the same time as you guys next week.

I have a big question for you, though. Does this show actually need Lisa Barlow? Because we got a little taste in this episode of what it could be like without LB. And while I obviously believe that, you know, every show needs a Lisa Barlow, these ladies are great. There's so much going on. And yeah, they talk about Lisa a lot in this episode, but she's just MIA for the first episode. That's craziness.

It's pretty bold that the quote unquote face of the franchise is MIA for episode. number one. But what I think these ladies have proven, I don't think we even need to discuss a world in which Lisa Barlow is not involved in the show. Let's play. I'll play into it. No, no, I'm saying in like in real life, like I don't think that's like an actual outcome. If I'm playing this game, I don't know.

I mean, they did a great job. Granted, again, the context was a lot of Lisa Barlow discussions. So I don't think you can totally mark this off as a Lisa Liss episode. episode. What I do think that this sets the stage for, and this is something that this show has done really well, but we've kind of seen Lisa trying to push towards the forefront a little bit. I think what this does is level the playing field once again. And by the setup of this season, that's what it was most interesting to me, because it's not like we haven't seen people go after Lisa in the past. Like it's not like it's brand new. What we haven't seen is that much producer support about going after Lisa. The setup with the lawsuits, the fact that she's MIA for this first one. So it's fair game. Everyone can jump in and say whatever they want. The setup is different.

Now to your actual question, can this show be good without her? I think it could be fine. Yeah. I think these ladies are good enough to carry it. I think that this show in particular works so well because of each individual on it. I think that's why it is so good. So I don't think it'd be better with her off. I think they could survive, though.

yeah. All right. Well, now for my encore, is Lisa as bad as Jen Shaw? No, she's not. I mean, I haven't seen the lawsuits yet, but I don't know. That's a good point. Yeah, we don't really know what's going on there. But no, I think we always, we always give praise to the, uh, the Salt Lake producers. They're one of the best. I actually saw some slander on Twitter last week saying,

but I don't even know if it was slander because it was, it was put in some sort of a playful stance just talking about how it seems low budget. with the shots that they have. But it doesn't really matter because they're doing it so well. They make everything a little goofy. And I think from a production standpoint, what they're doing here is, and we've seen this on pretty much every housewife show, when there's a queen bee,

they don't really have to answer to things. And the producers don't really give them the same treatment. But what we're seeing here, like you just said, the little drop in where she's MIA for her confessional. Lisa's not there. Is she on a business trip? Who knows? Here's all of the law.

here's the article that was just posted last week there's a lot of things that they're showing us that they would show for anybody on the cast and that's the way to do it it really is i know that we all have our favorites we all have you know our idea of who the head honcho is for each of these franchises are they untouchable are they not sometimes that gets annoying sometimes we need it but for this i love the idea of it being a level playing field if lisa's going to sit here call everybody a liar talk about everybody else's lawsuits all the other rumors that she's heard around town. We should be able to do the same for her. She can handle it. We know this every season. There's always a little up, a little down where it comes to Lisa, where it seems like, oh, she's not

going to be able to handle it. She's going home. She's leaving the trip early. And then she turns right around and she just gives it right back as hard as she took it. So it works out really well for the right group. And they seem to have such a good group here where Britney's here for episode one, Brittany's on the trip. She's not even a full-time castmate. And yet here she is, floating around getting into the mix i love it i think it just works perfectly well she's getting into her own mix not the actual mix she's making up a mix mixing herself yeah yes she's forcing herself into the porridge of this crew but you like that i don't know i don't know i don't even had porridge it just i haven't had any porridge but i would like some more maybe it's because they're uh

camping porridge seems campy i don't know going to like the like the bears the bears the bears chicago bears not the chicago bears no i i couldn't god i can't even remember my brain's not firing right now who was uh bairns goldilocks goldilocks no not the bernstein bears barenstain bears yes of course that uh let's rip that mandela effect up no no i think that it's making it for an interesting first episode and i'm curious as to what the the pre episode looked like as far as did they want her there are they pissed that she wasn't there for the premiere episode and is that why they're like you know what let's air it out a little bit with the confessional with question marks business trip question mark question mark stuff like that so i don't know i think it's the way to handle it if you do have a star cast member who's just not going on a cast trip to start the season because she doesn't want to be around bromwin who she's going to have to be around for the rest of the season yeah give her that treatment i don't care who it is everybody he deserves that. Yep, but let's jump into this episode and we got some Blair Witch vibes right out of the game. It's like, hell yeah. Bring back found footage. Honestly, it is so funny because

when it started off, and I just love the way that every Salt Lake season starts off. It's always Heather. It's always her and her confessional giving us a rundown of who's where, what's going on, who's pissed at who. Are we going to be able to film together? Let's find out. And then it's 18 episodes of them filming together, but it still works every single time. I thought that the Blair Witch thing was just production. I thought it was just like a quirky little thing that production was doing. I never in a million years thought

that everybody was going to get their own little camera and that we were actually going to have footage from them running around to the woods at night. But you know how happy I am that we got found footage? So happy. Camera. Like it's so good. It's so.

Yeah. Like a lot of the production visuals are low budget looking. That's kind of the charm of them. Like it's silly. It's fun. It's light. But you get the great intro with the podcast. Blair, which vibes.

And then Angie Kay didn't see this one coming, pulls up in an RV to pick up Mary. I was like, Mary's not getting on that thing. Sure enough, this is a planned trip. And by planned trip with the both of them, Angie Kay put the whole thing together and said,

Mary, would you like to host this with me? Mary had no input. But she's there. And that's the input that we need for Mary. That's the input that we got for Mary last year. So if we get more of the same from her this season, then I'm all for it.

If she's going to buy in to the weird little things, that they're going to do, the little cast trips that they're going to do, the events that they're going to host, and if she's going to do one for herself, and I don't really care if she was involved in the planning of this at all, because it doesn't seem like she was, but her going on board with this. And I know we're going to get to a point where Angie and Mary seemed to have a falling out, it's going to happen at some point in the season, but starting off strong. It looks like they're still friends, at least for now. Yeah, and we also know with a Mary fallout, it could be a very mundane comment from Angie that leads to her being like, ah, you don't like me. I don't like you

go away but it's probably going to be how mixed up uh angie and lisa get and then mary simply just saying she doesn't want to be part of it anymore yeah maybe or she gets buddy buddy with Lisa again and mary's like what the fuck yeah those but could be that she set up the old bait and switch here she sent an invitation with and i i don't know i think that you should have been a little more forthcoming with a little bit of the info because it's a doc a drink with an umbrella a jet and the sun so it's like okay beach trip i would have packed horribly for this trip if this was my invitation yeah well it doesn't sound it sounds like meredith reached out and asked what she should bring and she got answers she said bring okay and as soon as you hear

no boots was on the invitation unless that was a fake invitation well they all seem to know to bring boots and obviously we find out pretty quickly that whitney seemed to know exactly what was going to happen which is a little confusing. But I got a bit of Britney rocking a bikini under her fur. That is so funny. And I know that she's like, well, this is ridiculous. I'm wearing a bikini.

I thought we were going to the beach based on the invitation. I get that. I fully understand that. If you had a bikini in your suitcase, sure. Who does that? If I'm going to Florida for the week, I'm not wearing fucking swim trunks on the plane to get down there. That doesn't make any sense.

Swim trucks and thonged sandals and like some, a little SPF 50 on the schnaz. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, I mean, it's always confusing when you're going to a warm place from a cold place. What do you want to have shorts on when you hit the ground? But you know what you do? You wear those breakaways. Either you have breakaways with something underneath or the zip-offs.

I really want some zip-offs. Yeah, you really want some zip-offs. I would be a big fan of some zip-offs. But all of the ladies. The shorts are never really, I'm still talking about zip-offs. Yeah, the shorts are too long. The shorts are way too long. They are way too,

they're below the knee. I don't do that. I'm not a Capri guy. What about, I'm no, no, I'm not a Capri guy either. I'm short shorts.

If you pulled them up, what if there's like a draw string? You know, zip out drawstring. Yeah, I don't know. I'll hike them up a little bit. I mean,

you can hike them up a little bit, but then you kind of look goofy. It looks like you got those Ben Hogan, like 1940s golf pants. Yeah, there's something there. I think we're on to something. We'll keep workshopping this.

We'll come back. Somebody gets to steal that idea. Don't you do it. If I see drawstring zip-offs, I'm going to know where it came from. I'm watching you. I'm watching all of you. But let's pick up the ladies at Beauty Lab and Laser. And you got the whole crew there, except for one person.

And that's really interesting, the fact that Lisa is not there. And Heather being our forever narrator of what's going on in Salt Lake, immediately assumes her role, which I love. she steps right back into it. She gives us the update. You might as well tell you guys where we all stand. I can't stand Bronwyn. Angie, Bronwyn and Whitney can't stand Lisa. Meredith and Brittany can't stand each other.

Mary, who the fuck knows? Because we never know where Mary stands. And that's what's great about Mary Cosby. And the fact that she is bought in now is why she's such a good housewife, because we don't have to question whether or not she's going to get off the bus. Is she going to join in or is she going to go to McDonald's while the group is doing a team-building exercise? So we get the dynamic. set up and it's all pretty much where we left it seems like nothing's been resolved in the

off season i do think they picked up cameras fairly quickly for this season so i don't know if that like a whole lot of discourse in between there was like the you know the reunion happens and then they don't talk to each other for like a couple months and then they like come back together usually try to come back at least like go to lunch and yeah you know alliances as we know from um yeah i don't really remember them picking up cameras too quickly i think they did inherently just and they've done this for like three four seasons now in a row for salt lake they do pick them up and there is reports early about them filming and it's earlier than most seasons but i think it says more about salt lake where they're just kind of pushing it because it's such a good show that

they don't really want to spend too much time in the interim they don't want to have too much of an off season because they're humming because they're hitting on all cylinders so why not pick up cameras a little earlier than other franchises but when you look at the other franchises that we do hear about they're in such disarray and there's always a year and a year out yeah so it's almost like a mini pause for pretty much every franchise except now for pretty much miami and salt lake that they pick up pretty quickly i think the first report that we got was talking about bromwin's identity theft and all of those things and it doesn't seem like they know anything about that right now so that that's going to have to come in a couple of weeks i would imagine it's probably pretty early on

the season but yeah i i think that i think that they just wanted to pick up cameras. They just wanted to get our ladies back on the screen and who am I to complain? Yeah, it's great. Keep, keep firing them back. We want season after season after season until it gets stale and hopefully it never does. What I really appreciate about the whole group is that everyone's in like, they're not thrilled. Obviously, we get mixed reactions about the RV, but we don't get a freak out where someone's like, I'm not getting on that thing. Everyone gets on to the RV. Then we have a very interesting moment because SWAT rolls up, quote unquote SWAT. Quite noticeably missing badges and guns and anything that pertains to police.

Not to mention the main SWAT guy that walked over had a haircut that you were rocking about like six months ago. So it's not like believable necessarily. If I saw you, if I saw you and you were dressed in SWAT gear and I didn't know who you were, would I think that you were a stripper or would I think that you were actually a policeman? I either. Yeah. No, you're way more leaning towards stripper than police. Really?

I'd be curious what the response to that would be. If a stripper or SWAT. I don't want to put it out to, like, our fans of the people that listen to us because I know that we're going to get some weird comments back. Yeah, it's not that deep. It's simply. I mean, let's, let's dress them up as a SWAT guy. Let's see what we think. Maybe a midriff.

No, I don't want to do that. It's going to get weird. Yeah, no, I'm going to do it anyway. We're already talking about it. But we get all the strippers on to. the RV. There's not even enough room for them to do anything. So it's just kind of a weird mosh pit of people throwing money at each other. But we're off to a good start. Are we? I see, I thought that was stupid. I really didn't think that that was good at all. I didn't think it was necessary,

but you know, maybe I was so jazzed up about Salt Lake that I didn't really care. You see what that they're jazzed up about Salt Lake? Whitney, I don't know, because we go season to season with Whitney. she gets on my nerves a lot and her starting off right away with this was like, all right, come on, slow down. Are you even friends with everybody right now? Like, what's going on? I don't know what your place is in this group

and I never quite know what you're doing. This isn't a great start, but I do love we just get authentic Mary. I don't know, you. Where's the muscles? Why would I? Where's the muscle? Wait, hold on.

No, I didn't mean to say, where's the muscles. I meant to say, I don't know who you are and I don't want to be around here. I'm a church going lady. I don't want to deal with any of this. I wrote a church. But where are the muscles?

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Canyon. Provo Valley Canyon. We're headed to the Provo Valley Canyon, and we find out my lease is not coming. She was FaceTime with somebody said, I'm not going to sleep with Bronwyn there. And you know what? I have a really big work thing, like a super really big work thing. And people forget that I have a full schedule because I don't really talk about it. I was like, what?

You only talk about it. That's all you do is talk about it. It's either that or you're talking about Jack. That's pretty much what you do. Or you'll just cut people off in the middle of a sentence because you're not paying attention because you're on your phone talking about work. Yes. That's all you talk about.

That's your identity right now is what you're doing. So no. Yeah, but she doesn't really talk about it. Yeah, she doesn't talk about it. And also, you know, I got this meeting. I just can't move this meeting. But I think Heather said it best later. If you had a meeting, we would have just moved the trip.

I mean, let's look at it just naturally speaking. look at all these women. We can move to trip another week. We can push it back a week or two. It's not that big of a deal. We can move our schedules around. There's not a lot going on over here. I know a lot of them, you know, they do run some businesses.

We'll get into that with Whitney a little bit later. They do, you know, have to have a presence at these businesses. But let's be very honest, they can move things in their schedule very quickly and very easily. It's not that big the deal. No, and their main job is the show. so they can definitely move things to make cast trip work yeah cast trips work but you know and I have to mention just because it's peak Lisa Barlow not to name drop I'll be with Blake and Ben Blake and Ben who say the full name by the way you know what that is it's just

the Dunkin Donuts commercials yeah I know that's exactly what it is because we've seen them so like it's not a meeting with Blake and Ben which the Dunkin Donuts commercials are now raising some questions because Jen Affleck. Ben and Jen, that was funny. That was funny. Not actually related. Was in the Dunkin' Donutas commercial. We don't drink coffee. What are we doing? I always have a nice coffee

in her hand. Did she have a nice coffee in her hand? She had a nice coffee in her hand. Yeah. Oh, uh, oh. Call the church. That's going to get in trouble with the church. A lot of people complaining all right. Sorry, you just make a donation. I'm sure that they'll look the other way. Yeah, I'm sure. But, uh, Whitney, of course,

wants to question why Lisa's not there. I actually don't mind this. I'm glad that we're calling it out early. And she questions why Lisa's absent. And Brittany, of all people, jumps to her defense and not like tiptoes to her defense. Like she comes back full throttle saying, how dare you talk about her when she's not here?

She does have a business thing. She has a full schedule, blah, but pretty much parroting every single thing that Lisa had said. Yeah. Which raises questions. I was sitting at home going, what the hell did I miss? Like, these two weren't tight. And Heather, thank God, voices that later on.

She's like, when did this happen? Like, when did these two get so buddy, buddy? To the point that Brittany is saying in a confessional that Lisa is like a sister to her, but what we really need to keep in mind here, what that means to Brittany does not mean the same to other people as we get proof of later when she says to Meredith, we are great friends. How many times we talk to the phone? twice. So her barometer of what best friends are or sisters is way different than yours or

mine because she doesn't have a lot of friends. So when she gets one, she gets really excited and says that's my best friend. We've actually drawn up a blueprint of how to be best friends with Lisa. And all you have to do is just sit there and listen to her talk. That's all you have to and then compliment her. And maybe if you're lucky, she'll let you get in a little personal story here and there. But the rest of it is really just, you just have to grovel and just accept whatever she's saying, listen to her stories, sit on the phone for what did Angie say, sit on the phone for about two hours and then make an excuse. As long as you're not making an excuse because you have to go talk to your daughter, you have to go pick up your daughter from school, Lisa's okay

with you. So maybe, maybe they have, I don't really know, but according to Brittany, they started being friends after New York in the reunion. They just hung out and just got to talk and then we get all these pictures of them being buddy buddy so who's to say you know is brittany being delusional probably could i see a world in which they are actually good friends because of what i just laid up absolutely i could see that because brittany wants that and brittany needs that and then once she starts talking about jared that's where she's going to lose lisa well do you think that i'm more curious about lisa's response when she is with the group is she going to agree like oh yeah like we're super tight if you're going to be like meredith like what are you talking about crazy like i don't

we hung out a few times depends on the motives honestly depends on the mood and motives if whitney were to ask i could see lisa saying yeah brittany's a much better friend than me than you ever have been just so she could take a dig at whitney but if heather or meredith had asked i think it would be a much different response that's a good point i think it probably depends it's circumstantial it goes yeah it's a circumstantial thing but obviously brittany's delusional so it's probably not true yeah i would i'm leaning much more towards that side than they are actually best friends. And her response to Whitney,

now Whitney's not necessarily bashing Lisa's business. She is calling attention to what's been around the media, not only in Salt Lake, but social media, all that with the lawsuits. We heard about these a little while ago. I don't know the ins and outs. I know that some of them are towards Vita Tequila. I know John J.B. Husband boss is involved in one or two.

And then some are at her. I don't know the ins and outs. I'm not going to speak on them. But I do know she's got a lot of shit going on. If it was big and it was really big news, we would have heard. That's one of a thousand dollar missed loan. That's not small news. Yeah.

It could just be, you know, typical lawsuits in the course of business once you start getting bigger, but now obviously has a microscope on it because she's Lisa Barlow and on this show. And that's pretty much like the route that we're going at this point is Lisa usually starts talking about lawsuits. And now everybody's like, okay, let's do the same thing to her, which I'm fine with. Again, it's totally fine with. But I do think if it was really big and she was, you know, filing for bankruptcy or

losing the company or anything like that, we would know about that. I don't think she's losing the company, but I am curious about the, because $400,000 is not a small loan. You know, I don't beat it to kill as a big company, but still 400 grand is, that's a big number. But the scene ends with Whitney clapping back asking what Britney does for a living. What do you suck dick for money? Which is a strong thing to say, I do understand that she's frustrated.

Yeah, it's kind of funny. I do understand that she's frustrated because Brittany brings up the MLM thing on screen. You know, that was going around a lot on social media with her company. We get word later in the episode that her company's completely failed. I didn't know that. I don't know if that was news. But so obviously she's defensive. It sets up immediately budding heads between Whitney and Brittany,

which might lead further to having Brittany and Lisa be best friends like. you said simply because they can go against Whitney together and Lisa knows damn well that she can move Brittany wherever she wants to and point her at Lee or at Whitney and say go get her for me and Brittany's going to do that as long as she feels like Lisa's her friend because then Brittany finally feels like she's with the cool kids that's probably absolutely and really all it is is again it's just canon fodder let's just send Britney out there she'll keep Whitney off my back which is a win for Lisa and she probably doesn't doesn't have to deal with Brittany as much.

As long as she just gets a check in here and there, she'll be fine. That's really all it is. But it does raise a question. What does Brittany do for work? Because I have no fucking idea. I don't know. I really don't. Does Jared Osman give her a stipend?

Like, I don't know what the deal is. Possibly. I would imagine now it's probably just the show and she probably also gets checks from social media because she is a Ryan on social media. Singing in the airport. Singing in the airport. Yeah, maybe she's one of those people that, which I've never really seen the people that pull up on a piano.

In an airport, I feel like it's nice, but... No, she doesn't do that. She walks down the escalator and sings while filming herself on the phone at full volume. Yeah, that too. Yeah, that's what I'm referring to. But let's get to Provo River Resort RV Park because it's a banger. They pull up there and Meredith is appalled. She does not want to stay here at all.

Everyone's a little upset except Whitney. Whitney's the only one that's like, I'm excited. I used to go camping when I was younger. And as we found out earlier, Angie Kay got into it because Sean bought an RV. and was like, we're going camping. I personally, I've never actually done the RV trip. I would love it, I think. I think there's something fun about just piling in,

driving, and camping out somewhere. That's just me. Now, eight housewives. Yeah, I can see why the housewives aren't thrilled. But me personally, I think it sounds fun. I think it sounds like a car. I've only taken an RV to tailgate at like a Penn State game or something. I've done stuff like that, but never like an overnight RV trip.

I've camped out, but not in an RV. Is I considered glamping at that point? Where's the level? I think so. That to me, if you have like a six-figure RV that you're sleeping on, to me, that says glamping, personally. Yeah, I think so. Now, I am a little confused. There's eight women stuffed in there.

If there's eight people in the RV, I think it then goes back to camping. You think they're actually sleeping in the RV? Because if they are, I do want to see, you know, the night cameras of all eight of them sleeping in the RV. I do think they're all sleeping. be in the RV. I can't see how Mary would be able to handle that. I'm really excited to see that. I don't know if they'll see. It also looks like they lost in the woods, so maybe they don't get back to like

4 a. I'm going to have to drive home anyway. At least Meredith got lost in the woods. It seems like everybody else was fine. Dude, yeah, I'm very curious how this whole thing ends. But anyway, we get to lunch and Brittany announces that she has brought something for everybody.

And she pulls out the camcorders, which I agree with you. I'm stoked that we have camcorders. I think that every housewife show should have personal camcorders to use when you want to use them. And I know we get in trouble with recording other people. So like the irony is not lost on me. It's not even lost on Britney. It's like, I'm the video girl.

You all know me is that the potential positive spin or the attempt at a positive spin on recording them talking on the bus is something only Brittany could do. It's fantastic. It's something that anybody else doing, I'd be like, oh, here we go. But her doing it is is just perfect. It's absolutely perfect. I think it's such a good call. I'm not even going to read into whether or not producers told her to do it.

I think that it's very likely that Brittany did this herself, and I love it. I think it's such a great call if they can use the footage, which we see later, they can. It's going to lead to different things. And I hope that they use these camcorders, or at least Brittany uses it the entire season, because I could see it being a bit for Brittany that she just refuses to let go. And that's going to really excite me. Yeah, one, it's going to piss people off. And two, you might get some hidden camera footage.

which would be pretty interesting to see if it's a little behind the scenes action of what's really going on. I don't know. Lisa's absence, though, I think this is deeper than the trip. And I think this speaks to the show itself. And I think she pissed off her cast members because Heather going to the confessional

and saying, I wasn't even a confessional. They're talking amongst the group. And she says, not going makes a statement. Like this is a statement that essentially you think you're better than us, that your time is more important than our time.

is I think that goes further towards the show. Now, I would love to see if Heather gets irritated by it and actually questions Lisa, but what I think happened due to the dinner that we see, then Heather coming to Lisa's defense, I think that changed the narrative right away because she got defensive. I would be curious if that Lisa conversation didn't come up, would this cause more conflict between Lisa and Heather? Because Heather will be that mouthpiece for the group and say, hey, this is our job. we all showed up where the hell were you you're filming a dunkin donuts commercial with ben and jenn we could

have moved the trip you know that or the reasons because you don't want to film with brunwin or sleep on an RV with her again you're ditching the trip like this is our job what are you doing i personally think this is a deeper issue that's going to rear its head later i think people are going to hold this one a little bit longer because it also has to do with the show itself yeah i i kind of hope it does too and i don't think that the discussion that we have at dinner later is really going to impact that because I do think that this is a separate issue. I think it's we've seen this time and time again and even Heather references it when somebody's not there and everybody's talking about them. It happens to everybody

on the show. It happens at pretty much every event that somebody's missing in action. And this is no different. But I do think that this is a separate issue. I do think that because again, it starts the season. This is the first episode and you're not there and you don't really have a good reason and we could have changed it. I think all of those things will actually have answers. And I think that that'll be presented to Lisa whenever she decides to grace us with her presence. And I think that the rest of the group has a leg to stand on. Now, will they be able to execute? I think if it's Heather, yes. I think if it's Bronwyn, no, because we haven't seen her handle herself that well. If it's Angie Kay, maybe. I think that she might be able to beat this now. Too much conflict between those two.

Lisa will never listen to. There is a lot of conflict. That's the thing with execution anyway that I don't really know if Angie's going to be able to come through, but I think that she has a pretty good chance at it. I don't think Bronwyn does. If Whitney does it, she's just going to get swatted like a fly. And I do think it's pretty interesting. Mary could, yeah, but I don't really know what that looks like. So it really just depends on who the messenger is when it comes down to it. But I do think it's interesting for Lisa to do this coming off of a season and, you know, two, three seasons now where you're tired of people talking about you. You're tired of people trying to create conflict with you. Why would you do this to yourself right away? Why are you starting the season off

on this foot? Knowing full well, they're going to sit there and talk about you the whole time and they're going to feel some type of way because you're missing out. Just a lot of contingencies to worry about by missing one episode, one trip. It's a lot of things to be concerned about moving forward. Again, as we know, and part of the reason she is so great at being a housewife is Lisa doesn't care. She cares about herself and will always care about herself and she's not going to do something she doesn't want to do, but this could leave the door open. And I think you're right. I think there's very few ways that she's held accountable successfully. I do think that Mary being the wild card and people not really knowing what to expect all the time gives her a chance to be that person. If she brings

it up or if Heather brings it up and Mary backs her up, that works. Now, you clearly have Brittany on Lisa's team. That's not going to work. Whitney, definitely not. Meredith is probably not going to want to go down that path again because her and Lisa are finally at least neutral most of the time. They actually are friends now, but that as we know, that can fall apart really quick. She's not going to want to touch it. The only real avenue is Heather or Mary, we're both. So we'll see if they decide to take that step. I think Mary's got the guts to do.

And I also think that that would make more sense with the Angie Kay thing. If Angie and Lisa end up making amends and then Mary is going against Lisa and Mary's like, what the hell are supposed to have my back. Right. That kind of made, that all tracks for what we've seen so far. from previews so I'm going to be curious to watch that's going to be a fun it's it's new it's a little new we're not used to having we're used to people going after Lisa but not right out of the gate so yeah it is a little new and I did think and obviously going into the dinner when they finished all of

their activities I did think that maybe this was going to be a good like cohesion if you will for the group like hey Lisa's not here let's all talk bad about her and if everybody was on board with that that would have been very interesting because we've seen that time and time again, where it seems like Lisa is just kind of on her own and she has to defend herself, which she's capable of doing. And then the rest of the crew is kind of ganging up on her. And we're starting the season off like that. But then it goes for a little curveball because then you have people defending her. People saying like, hey, whoa, let's not talk about somebody who's not here. So it's going to be kind of interesting to see where the lines are drawn in the sand.

Yeah. And I like that people are chiming in going back and forth about it because Heather's saying she's not here. We don't need to talk about her. Meredith is echoing that. Mary's pointing out the fact that, well, Lisa does to us all the time, but we can't do it to her. That's bullshit. The lawsuits get brought up. You know, she wants to be so concerned about everybody else's business. Meanwhile, she's got five lawsuits, one of them to the tune of $400,000. Heather's like, what the hell? Why are we talking? It's like, dude, this was in the paper. You know, this is nothing, we're not trying to be shady behind the scenes. I mean, they are, but at the same time, they didn't write that article. And then production puts it on the screen. I don't even think

that they're being shady at that point, because honestly, if you're going into a season, you know that this is the first time that they're filming, you've got all this ammo. We see it time and time again. You've got ammo in the off season. Lawsuits, reports, social media, whatever it might be in the off season, you're just chomping at the bit to get into it. Lisa's not there. That's not your fault. This is your first time filming. This is your first getaway, your first weekend, your first time out there with the girls to try to mix it up and try to get some things started. I'm talking about this. I've been looking forward to talking about this. camera. Lisa's not here to defend herself. Why is that my problem? So I'm okay with it.

Exactly. She chose to not come on the trip. If she had an actual obligation to miss this and was like, I really can't make it. And they're talking about her one thing, but she chose not to be here. This is her decision not to do it. So you can talk about her, especially because some of the topics coming up have to do with her or the fact that she has done that to these people multiple times. So why when it's our turn to clap back now we're not allowed to because you're afraid of Lisa, that's not fair to anybody on the cast. And, you know, I know what Heather's trying to do. And I do think that Angie K. derails the point a lot by trying to draw comparisons to Jen

Shaw. I think that was a misstep because I thought they were doing pretty good. Then when you throw that out there, it's like, okay, this is getting out of hand. No, she's not the same as Jen Shaw. Let's be real. How dare you say that? But Brahman with a good retort, it's like, oh, so that's too far. But when she tweets out saying that I'm the same as Jen Shaw, that's cool?

Like, where are our lines? So there's a lot of good rebuttals, which I really liked. I love the clapbacks. I love that people are kind of staying on task. We're trying to get to the bottom of stuff. People have good evidence to back things up. That's all you can ask for. That's a cast doing their job.

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It's like, that has nothing to do with this. Nothing to do with it at all. I do think it's probably a good move and obviously we just kind of skipped over the activities portion of the day, which is okay. What would you be doing? I probably be fly fishing. No, that's after. We're still at lunch. We're still at lunch? Oh my God. What an episode.

Wow. I was going to say, look at that. Because we haven't even done the announcements at lunch. Oh, yeah. God, the announcement. But yeah, when it comes out of Bromwood and the $4 million necklace, God, I think this was probably the best thing that she could do so that we could fucking move on. be honest go to your confessional talk about how you know it ended up being a lie i told all the girls maybe i'll wear it maybe i'll wear it and that was a lie and i shouldn't have lied and i

feel icky good that's a good way to handle it have some sort of mini breakdown i don't care if you have to blame it on your first season you didn't know what to expect you didn't want to disappoint anybody i wanted to get another necklace i thought that maybe they wouldn't notice they would have noticed that actually would have been worse when she goes into that little scenario Hey, maybe if I just show up in a different necklace, it's not $4 million, it's $2 million. It's actually on loan. She buys one from Claire's. Yeah, like, I don't know what the fuck you're thinking at this point, because Lisa called the jeweler.

I don't care. The jeweler did not call Lisa. We all know that. Lisa called the jeweler, found out that you never ended up buying it. Do you not think that she still would have called if she noticed some sort of irregularity, some sort of stark difference between the two. She probably has pictures of the $4 million necklace. She would go up with her phone and look at it side by side and say, this is different. This is different. This isn't the same necklace. What the hell? And you'd still be into a world of her and you'd still be called a liar because you'd be

trying to pass off that smaller necklace as the $4 million necklace. So good on you to just try to wipe it clean and sit there and say, hey guys, I lied. I am a liar. And my name is Bronwyn. And this is not the first or the last time that I'll be lying. And it's going to be a really long season, but at least we can move on from the goddamn necklace. Yeah. No, it's the perfect move. I wish other housewives would follow suit when it comes to stupid trivial things like that. Own up to it.

Move on. That's great. And to your point of bringing up the necklace thing and Lisa being the one to call and dig up that dirt. I mean, that's a great, great argument against Lisa. It's like she does things like that. But we can't sit here and question lawsuits that we're reading about in the paper. But she can go to other people.

people that I do business with and dig up dirt on me that's insane and you get a montage of the Lisa rumors that she's trying to spread throughout the years and it's like ooh another shot at her by production where it's like ooh that's shady too you start to add all these things up together I think she made some people mad I really do but they somewhat agree to let's wait till leases around to defend herself it calms it down ever so briefly enough for Britney to see a window. Yeah. And you know if Brittany gets a window, she's going to make an announcement. First one of the season. Hey guys. Ding, ding, ding. I got an announcement. Jared and I are engaged. Here's the thing. Because the excitement on her face celebrating in this brief moment that she was engaged was genuine. She was in this moment excited to tell this group, I'm engaged. I'm getting married.

cue up the video of Jared creepy ass Osmond and Brittany being fucking weirdos on Instagram which they always are with that guess what her last name is fuck you Jared I don't care Osmond cool go back to Osmond Lane go by

two seconds later ding ding ding I got an announcement okay we're not engaged anymore then why were you so happy about it when you announced the engagement I don't fucking understand it. I've never understood the whole Jared Osmond thing, but more so, I never understand Britney's excitement levels.

I just don't get it at all because everybody's just looking at her plain face. This was not a production trick. This is them looking at her like, okay, when's the other shoe going to drop? Because we know you're not engaged. You don't have a fucking engagement ring on. We're looking at your hand right now. What were you doing? And I wouldn't put it past Britney to like hide the ring in a pocket and pull it out and be like,

here it is, guys. Read them and weep. Nope, not here, actually, because he took it back. Yeah, so we're not engaged. That lasted about two weeks, and I don't really know what to do from here. Is he dating other people? No. No, I don't think so.

He wouldn't do that to me, probably not. I don't know, maybe. Maybe. What have you guys heard? Have you guys seen him? Yeah, why? What's going on? Actually, as a matter of fact, Whitney has at the lifetime of he would be that guy.

That is so on par for Jared Osmond to camp out in the Lifetime Cafe in a city where people know who he is. Yep. And hit on women coming in there after their workout. He probably buys a new green drink every hour to make it look like he's in like a recovery after a workout and just hits up all the women. The best part, the crassness of this man, the audacity, if you will. to not only flirt, but then introduce Whitney to the women that you're hitting on. When you know she films a show with Britney, and the craziest part, it doesn't matter. Because all I used to do is call Brittany and go, hey, babe, and she go, hey, Jared, and everything's fine.

Oh, yeah, I would love to go to dinner with you. Do you still have the engagement ring by chance? I just wear it for dinner. You sold it already. Oh, no, I don't want to do that. I can actually see him going back and forth, like, from the sauna just to like look like he's sweating. But then he gets, but then he panics because he's like, well, I did see that haughty over there on the stair machine. Maybe she's done by now.

I got to get, I got to get out of here. I got to get that probably sets a timer. He looks at like how much time they have left on the stairmaster, sets a timer on his phone, goes to the sauna. Two minutes before they're supposed to be done on the treadmill, he goes ahead and steps out of there. Wipes his brow with a fucking towel. He's just using towels over and over again. And then he goes to the cafe, goes, give me the osmond. And it's just a green juice.

Oh, God. Yep. That's, that's probably his daily. schedule right there he's not probably he doesn't do anything else yeah no he gets an inheritance check from the osmans yeah and he lives on then when he gets bored he calls brittany yes he does no when he strikes out at lifetime he calls brittany yeah anyway now we get to the activities kayaking and fishing which one are you going on i'm doing the fly fishing oh same yeah i'll be i'll be there with you love me a good fly fish kayaking's fun too and watching them go backwards down the river that was

fun but not nearly as fun as the gusty dusty situation the pam pan situation if you well gust it did sound like he was saying gusty i don't did she had the big hat on so like you wouldn't really hear that well yeah i quite clearly heard dusty it wasn't one of those where i'm like i heard gusty so it was pan pan pan for me i was in a world of hurt watching this scene and it didn't seem like it but it did kind of look like they were just kind of looping the same seen over did you get that too or was it just mary being crazy it's hard to say with her i could see this being real here's the thing i don't care because i love it doesn't matter there's great so it doesn't matter if it was real or not it worked well we call it fishing not catching that's for sure

hey now that's that man has said that a million times in his life so many fishing trips ready to roll yep every fishing trip he's ever been on he said that to the the people that he's taking out Anyway, let's get to dinner. And we know in between these two things. One, Heather and Bronwyn have a nice time on the stream. They're chatting a little bit, you know, a little nature healing. They get to a place where they're at least copacetic, which is kind of all you can ask for with them.

As we know, Heather kind of had a weird chip on our shoulder about Bronman all season. I know that Bronwyn wasn't perfect, but it was like right on the gate. Indicated by something that Heather didn't do or no. that Bramwin was a liar. So she felt like she was vindicated, but we never really understood what her gripe was with Bramwin from the start. I mean, Bramwin invited her to the trip

and tried to do it in a nice way. She tried to squash the beef. Yeah, we were trying to be as unbiased as possible because at that point in time, we actually did like Bramwin. We thought that she was bringing a good sort of dynamic to the show, and we didn't understand where Heather was coming from. And obviously, you know, everything comes out about Bramwin

before the reunion. Now all of a sudden Heather's vindicated. And I don't really think that's fair because I think she treated Bronwyn unfairly to begin with. She treated her like an outsider trying to get back into the group. She's like, I don't like this. I don't know what you're doing. I'm not buying what you're selling here,

lady. And then to no doing of Heather, Bronwyn then obviously gets dubbed a liar. And it's like, well, I told you guys. I knew it from the start. Like, no, you didn't. And it was really weird the whole time. But I think Bronwyn's taking this is now, she's two for two so far

and it's not going to last, as we know. But she is taking the right approach. If I just smile and nod and don't try to make too much eye contact with Heather and just agree with her, we're going to be good. I can live with that. And that's the way to do it. That's how you have to start. And smile and wave. Smile and wave, boys.

Smile and wave boys. Well, we got the legend of Molly Sorensen, who was allegedly an FLDS member, escaped her commune or wherever she was living in the Provo Canyon and then set out on a life to destroy the commune by murdering. young girls is what i've got well she was murdering young girls uh that were going against the church so if they were uh oh right sitting yeah if they were out there this this used to be make out point as we all know you know you drive your car up there make out point what do you guys think happens to make out point i don't know let's go find out and there was molly ready to kill you that's pretty much what i or at least she kidnapped they never really said that she killed the people i thought she just said killed i don't think maybe they got to that point but it seemed more like

Yeah, it says, no, no, kidnapping. Kidnap and sacrifice. Bang. Oh, the sacrifice. Yeah, yeah, sacrificial, which, uh, cool. I think I love little stories like this. This sets up the Blair Witch Project very nicely for later in the night. Especially with the camcorders, even if it's fake.

I like it, get a little campfire scary story. And we're at the campfire. And, uh, I don't know how long it would take to cook a burger on a stick. And I know it's a veggie burger. So I was a veggie burger. So it wasn't like, yeah, it was. wasn't too crazy. I don't know

what the rule on that is. Yeah. When Heather asked her, is that raw? Is it raw? Is it raw? Because it's veggie. I don't know what the rule is.

But I do know this. If you just had the move would be to buy ground beef and just like mash it around the stick. Yeah. That would work. Also the hot dogs were fine. I mean, just eat a hot dog at that point

because you can put that over the fire. It's already cooked. My question is, when we were driving in to the campsite, there were many grills. Many, many grills. Why not just use a grill? They clearly didn't bring charcoal.

Yeah, I don't. I mean, I was just confused. It made for incredible TV, but I was great trying to figure out. I was watching Mary eat a dry-ass bagel and Britney calling asparagus fancy, which I've never I see what she's saying.

but it doesn't strike it's like a fancy veg Asparagus is funny honestly I'm gonna be a little gross but it takes like 0.5 seconds for my pee to smell when I it's crazy it is it happens so fast

and then I start questioning everything I wonder why who knows man it's a weird weird little veggie it's not fancy I don't think it's fancy yeah no that's what I was saying I was like you can make it look fancy I'm playing and some classical music

when I'm eating asparagus we're at fucking Osmond's house Like is that what you guys You're wrapped asparagus from like Ruby Tuesdays God we could read into that actually Is Jared Oh

I mean that could be one thing Another thing is maybe he has trained her To think that like He's taking her to super fancy places That's a possibility That's a cleaner That is a much cleaner way to make a joke out of that one Let's go with that than what I was going

Yeah come on I'm going to take you down to Sizzler. They have asparagus. Wow. Thanks, Jared. He's just playing violin music on his iPhone. Exactly. Yeah, you can't see the violinist.

He's in the back, but it's, it's real. Now, as they're sitting there eating their respective meals, whatever that might be, a dry bagel, a frozen veggie burger, or a glizzy, they're going over not only the rumor of Molly Sorensen, but also that Heather and Broadman seemed to, find some kind of piece on the stream, which could be a good thing. Now,

I don't mind the move. I actually like the move, Angie pressing it further a little bit here. I just feel like she comes on in her two moments so far. She comes on strong enough that I think it just puts Heather straight into defensive mode instead of answering the question because she says, is it nature or is it the lack of Lisa, which is a valid question that really is a valid question.

And the leading to the question, if Lisa was here, would you be able to do that? Would you have said the same things you're saying now if she was sitting next to you? So it's not an invalid question by any means. It's just I feel like because of the way it's posed and when it's posed, it takes away from it because Heather's not going to answer. She's just going to get defensive, which is what she does. Yeah, and that's pretty much what she does across the board. And that's what she's done on this show for a long time.

she's just swapped out Lisa Barlow for Jen Shaw because when Jen was involved, she would never go against the grain. There were always things. And apparently Jen punched her in the fucking face and she hid that. So she's always been able to kind of skirt around things. She's always, I don't even want to call it defending. She just kind of turns a blind eye and that's not even like the black eye joke at that point. She's just doing it with Lisa now.

So I think it's a very valid question based on her behavior for the last couple of years with Jen and now with Lisa. And I think that's fair. I think it's fair to ask and especially now because if you don't want us to talk about Lisa Lisa's not here. Here's something that we can talk about while Lisa's not here. Would you be a different person if Lisa were here? And I think it's incredibly valid. And obviously

we're not going to get a real answer out of that. I don't know anybody that would give you a real answer because it is kind of an insulting question but it's fair. I think it's true too. It's definitely true. Bringing it up and then seeing what her reaction is to it and then obviously showing the rest of the

cast, hey, yeah, if this was in your brain, it probably should be, because this is kind of weird, and this is what she does, and we've seen it happen before, and you got other people talking about it, it's something that people are going to keep an eye on. So if you do that now, after the afternoon that you and Bronwyn just had, where it seemed pleasant enough, you're not getting on her for all the shit that she did last year, you're giving her sort of what looks like a clean slate, simply because Lisa's not here. Would you do the same thing if Lisa were here? And then we get to see next episode, or the episode after, here's Lisa, here's Bronwyn, what's Heather going to do?

Heather's just going to kind of stay out of it? Or is she immediately going to take up for Lisa and go after Bronwyn again? I don't know. I mean, like I said, a lot of interesting questions are posed from this episode. And I do think the absence of Lisa made for a better set up episode because she's not there to derail the conversation. They have to do it amongst themselves. I don't want Lisa to be absent from every episode. I want Lisa Barlow back on my screen.

Don't get me wrong. But there's something that we can accomplish without Lisa. there. And if it happens in the first episode, whoever cares about that, it's just coincidental. I'm okay with it. But if she's not there and we get to actually have questions like this and have different, you know, storylines be approached, then fine. Yeah, I completely agree. And as they're going back and forth, you know, people are starting to air out their grievances. Whitney brings up the fact that, you know, when you're out on the outs with Lisa, it's actually pretty hard. And Heather's like, what do you mean? You guys are got, she went

immediately after the reunion and talked shit about me on Twitter. And we have proof of that, obviously, from the tweet. And then Brittany decides to add herself to the mix and say, you sure? What about saying I, I can't even say it because of the crassist that I sleep with people for money. Clutch my pearls. What are you talking about? This is not what we're talking about. Shut up.

This one, this one bothered me. I mean, I made me laugh, but also bothered me because we got completely off topic now. Yeah. But it's funny because it's Brittany and she's like, steadfast. fast and thinking that this is what the conversation's about because she doesn't critically think about things. So it's funny, but at the same time, I wanted this to go further where people have to answer, people that are supporting Lisa, defend why and when you do, because every single

defense that we've gotten of Lisa has been countered by, well, she did that to me this time. Well, she did that to me this time. What do you have to say about that? Brittany coming in and going, you said that I suck dick for money. Now we're on a different topic. Yeah, it's counterproductive at that point. And to a certain extent, I don't think that we would have actually gotten any real answers. And I think it's okay, too.

If you're going to support Lisa, like if we eventually got to Meredith, we're just going to have the same conversation again. You and you and Lisa were budding heads a couple of years ago. Now it seems like you guys are doing better. What changed? Why are you doing this? Are you talking a little bit differently? Are you guys just talking shit on the rest of the group? Like, whatever it may have been, I don't think we would have ever gotten a real answer out of it.

It probably would have just been more aggravating. So I'm okay with the timing of Britney just jumping in because she has good comedic timing and it's not really, you know, something that she's doing on her own. It's completely, it's very unintentional. But I don't think we really would have gotten anywhere. I think it's more so just it's thought provoking. It's at least something that now, if it wasn't on your radar, here it is. So if you're somebody who's in the middle, somebody who doesn't really seem to have a problem with Whitney or with Lisa.

and you're somewhere in the middle, can you see it a little differently? This is how Lisa affects other people's thinking. This is how Lisa affects different situations that we might find ourselves in. Just something to keep an eye on. And I think that's enough. It's good enough.

Yeah. And I have faith in this cast that they will actually have an eye on that. And this isn't the first or last time that we're going to hear it. Yeah, I agree. And we get another moment that we don't get a lot of. And this is similar to Bronwyn saying, yes, I lied about the necklace to try to look cool. I'm sorry.

Whitney just flat out lays it out there. I had a business that failed. I went all in. Justin went all in with me. And now we have nothing. But I don't have any pending lawsuits. Nice dig there. Had to fire 30 people.

I failed and I'm admitting it. And she goes to her confessor, she's like, we're talking millions. I'm like, millions. Maybe. Millions of projected bunny, which is sort of monopoly money. I think that's probably what it was.

Like, hey, if this worked, it could have netted us millions of dollars and maybe a good business. But it didn't work. So it netted us nothing, actually negative money because we invested a lot of money in this. But it does at the very least kind of put it to bed. And again, this is similar to the Bronwyn situation. I don't want to talk about Whitney's businesses the entire season. That seems to be what we've been doing for two years.

If we're going to put that to bed right now because she has a moment of vulnerability where she's going to share with the women, good, fine. I'm sure most of them have had businesses that have started and failed. That's how things work. So if she's going to be vulnerable about it, it might be leading potentially to a different Whitney, which I'm okay with because she's been kind of annoying the last couple of years. Yeah. Yeah, I don't think she's going to change it all, but it was a nice moment here at least where she's just bearing her soul a little bit. And the whole group resonates.

You know, it's a lot of women that have either started businesses or currently running businesses and they all can resonate. Heather's like, I failed many times. Don't sweat it. Angie, obviously, with the, she has hair care products. Right? Or the salons. Yes. Yeah. So it's not like they haven't had this happen to them. So you have a group moment here where everyone's kind of like putting their arms around her, metaphorically speaking.

But of course, the one person that should not be putting their arms around her is Brittany. Mm-hmm. And who puts her arms around her? Brittany. It's like you can't make the shit up. Not before she walks over and says, well, I'm still upset about the dick-sucking joke. but okay and everyone immediately like come on fucking really we're really doing this like let's just move on brittany leave it alone but she can never leave it alone she she needs an apology

even though whitney bearing her soul sort of takes place you know you would think place of an apology like hey all right now i understand i took a shot at your businesses i should have done that because you're clearly going through it now i understand why you're going through it so instead of just understanding that i'm still going to need an apology for that dick-sucking joke because I didn't like it. Yep. 100%. That's just such a Britney thing to do.

And you go to Britney's confessional. And we've seen this before on the sophomore year of a housewife where they're like, I'm not taking any shit anymore. I'm not putting up with this stuff. It's just so different when she does it because she doesn't have her fingers on the pulse of what's actually going on. So she's like, I'm not getting pushed around anymore. Like, no one's going to bully me.

I'm standing up for myself and Meredith's like I don't want to hear it I don't I don't care I don't care and what she's saying That's what she's like we were great friends What the fuck are you talking about? We've hung out like what once She's like we What do you mean Meredith? She's like how many times you talk to the phone?

A lot how many? Once? No twice And we went to lunch for a few hours And you're going to turn your back on me now You monster. God. Like a sister to me. That's my point.

So the sister comment, therefore, you get some more intel on what that. Yeah, Intel. Yeah. Intal or context on what that means. The episode gets bookended with Brittany claiming friendship. And now it's like, okay, we had some questions about the first one. We could kind of see how that would work out. I'm still going to keep it open mind to you and Lisa being good friends.

But now we find out what you actually think friendship is. And if that's the example that you're going to use, it seems kind of fucked up that we started talking about you and Lisa being friends I don't think that Lisa and you are friends at all now actually yeah and the other thing what Meredith responds with is more or less saying because Brittany goes you think I'm the weakest link Marith's like not really I think you're uninteresting and I have zero respect for you what she's saying Brittany is that you're irrelevant you're not worth the time that's what she's saying and that's look

what Brittany brings to this show is great. It's very uniquely her. But when it comes to having an impact on what's occurring on the storylines or other people's opinions having a bearing, you're kind of irrelevant. I could see it getting annoying. I could see Britney really getting under my skin throughout the course of the season. But as it is right now, if this is how Meredith is. is going to do this, which is fine.

Like, I don't really want people to get, like, aggravated on the cast when it comes to Brittany. Because I feel like that's going to be kind of annoying. But if Britney's able to do this and then you see that little moment where she gets like a sparkle in her eye because it looks like Meredith looked at her in the right way, she's like, oh, friendships back on. Great. That's going to be really funny because if she does one or two things that maybe makes Meredith

laugh, Britney's going to think they're best friends again. And that's going to be really funny to watch her get shot down because it's just just who she is. She's delusional and it's okay. I think she's going to be fine. I don't think it's really going to have some sort of greater impact on her psyche at some point. I think she's always going to be this delusional when it comes to friends. So if she's able to do that and tread carefully and then not tread carefully at all, that's going to be really funny. But I could see a finding and aggravating. We're going to have to have like a meter moving forward where is Brittany really pissing me off or is it funny? Right now it's or annoying. Yeah. Right

now it's funny it's funnyish funny with the threat funny with the threat of funny with the chance of meatballs yeah that's where she stands currently but as far as season premieres go it was i loved it yeah i'm curious to see what the uh we got to watch it a little bit early so i'm curious to see what the responses on social media and stuff but i really enjoyed it i think we're off to a good start i think that something else that salt lake does really well is each season is a little different and like we're getting the setup immediately of something a little bit different and Lisa not being there honestly which goes back to your question that you started the show with maybe that was even better maybe her being absent from this premiere is a good thing because

it gives us a new setup and now we know what we're looking at least for the first quarter of the season first half of the season is this where we're going if she's there we don't get a lot of the responses because you know how it goes she gets loud, the other person gets louder than they start fighting and arguing somebody walks away from the table and goes to sleep in the back of the RV. So the absence of Lisa might have been beneficial for this one. I think it would have been better. I think it is beneficial actually because it allows us to set those pieces up without pissing off Lisa, without her storming off, without her taking, you know, a Heather, a Meredith completely out of the way because we've seen that a million

times when push comes to shove, the people who do support Lisa will walk off with her or in some way they'll walk off verbally it might be a little bit different every time but we see how that plays out this gives us a chance to set up some pieces because we know lisa's a star and she'll be able to come right back in and hit the ground running regardless of when she comes but right now if we're allowed to just let the auxiliary cast if you want to call them that try to figure out how we're going to navigate through with lisa in particular because a lot of people have issues with her right now let's see how it goes it lets people commiserate for a little bit and then it lets them get they get their feet under them before immediately Lisa's going to whack them back to the ground anyway.

Yeah, yeah, which we have seen happen before. We will see it happen again. Inevitably, uh, I don't see a world in which Lisa has some come to Jesus moment and changes how she acts with people. I think it's just simply too far gone in her world. So I don't know, time will tell. But Roslick is back and we could not be happier. We sure couldn't.

It's great TV, baby. Damn right. And we don't have questions because you guys haven't watched it yet. So we will do questions next week and get back to Roslick as a family. Right? Hell yeah. But that's all I got. You got anything else?

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