Bros & Shows - RIP Jesse and Lexi: Summer Lovin' Gone Wrong (Summer House Full Recap)

Episode Date: May 19, 2025

What's up Bros? Summer is coming to an end and we would argue this was one of the better seasons we've seen! In this episode, Lexi is fed up with Jesse and decides to end things. Jesse is blindsided as he assumed they'd finally worked through all of their (his) issues. Ciara and Jesse squash their beef and end up hanging out at the U.S. Open. Lindsay hosts a freedom dinner to celebrate one year since Carl called off the wedding. While we agree this sorta proves she's not quite over it yet... it was hilarious and one of many reasons that she is so good for reality TV. Amanda debuts her swimline at a preview party. Things get awkward at the house when Jesse decides to tell the whole group about why Lexi called it off. And once Kyle inserts himself unintentionally... things get messier. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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house i've ever seen i'm just happy that we squeezed in one last freedom dinner because who doesn't want a freedom dinner at the end of summer i have a lot to say about that but holy shit it was funny Bros and shows. I got to have me my bros and shows. Bros and shows. Brose and shows. I got to have me my bros and shows. Good morning, everybody, and welcome back to another episode of Bros. And Shows, I'm your co-host, Steel Russell, joined as always by Why Won't It Stop Raining McGee.

What's up, dude? It's the worst. It's car issues yesterday for the first time ever because I drove through a big puddle, and my engine start to make weird noises so we'll see where that goes how do you fix that when you like get a blow dryer and just pop the hood that's like my extent of my car knowledge i don't pretend to know a lot about cars but i just try that too i got a couple of uh recommendations basically like calling to try to get an emergency inspection and one guy was like oh i've done that plenty of times just wait for it to dry out the other guy was like i'm going to have to have my exhaust guy come in here he's going

have to pull it apart and look at everything. It could be very costly. I'm like, I'm going to go with the first guy who said, let's see if it dries. And, yeah, procrastination at its finest. That's what I like to live by. Did you, did you fire up this morning? What did you sound like? It sounded okay, better than yesterday, but, you know, I've got faith. I feel like it's just, you know, it's going to be a two-day thing. We'll just see where we are tomorrow. And if tomorrow doesn't deliver, then we'll see where we are on Saturday. I think it'll be fine. Yeah, it's going to be fine. And everything works out. Yeah, it's all good.

I think you're going to be totally fine. But this episode hopefully cheered you up a little bit with your car troubles because this was a banger of an episode. It's been a banger of a season. It had a lot of risk with the Jesse Lexi thing taking center stage. Obviously, we get tired of relationship drama in a show like Summerhouse, but somehow it has been captivating throughout the entire season. the next week is the season finale. They did a good job. This has been a solid, solid season of Summer House.

I feel like for the hand that they were dealt with this Jesse Lexi thing, they leaned into it heavily. There are some other things going on. Obviously, you know, every other episode, we get a little bit of a Carl and Lindsay dynamic. We get a little bit of this and that and whatever, West and Sierra. But when it comes down to it, the focal point is Jesse and Lexi. And sometimes I wish that we didn't have to look at this from like a podcast analytical standpoint. Sure.

Because when I'm watching it, and you've gone through this, early stages of these shows like Southern Charm, Summerhouse, I told you a million times, stop looking at this like a real show and real people and just laugh at them. And it works out really well. I want to be in a situation where I can sit here and I don't have to pick a side. I just want to be able to enjoy it. But instead, we have to sit here and we have to talk about it. So innately, I do have to pick a side. But it would be so much fun to just sit there and laugh at them. And that's pretty much what I do during the episode. And then when I sit down here, I'm like, all right, where do I actually stand? What do I? Where do we fall on this life? I wish I could just be like surface level. Like this is funny as shit. These people are nuts. I can do that. But then I have to say, well, you know, Jesse's wrong for this. Lexi's wrong for this.

I don't want to do that. I just, I just want to enjoy it, you know? I do think that obviously the biggest problem is Jesse. But I don't think that it's only Jesse. I think that he's like the obvious fuck up because he did a bunch of stupid shit. And I don't think he does a good job this episode of clearing those things up at all. because he just doesn't understand it and like that bothers me like that part frustrates me it's like

just because you personally see it as one thing does not make that the truth but he's holding onto that on to that on lexie side of things it's like i i get it like i get it you got burned this dude was an asshole the whole time but you guys fucking met a month ago this is banana land when it comes to lexie though like part of me tries to go back back in time and it's like all right yeah 26 year old trying to navigate a weird ass relationship being on TV some of her behavior makes sense where she breaks up with a guy she lets them talk to her you know i'm leaving the family side out of this because i already declared last week her family is that shit crazy and i want nothing to do with them further confirmed this

weirdos just bizarre people but when it comes down to just lexy and jesse i understand it you know you go through this you're pissed off about something you finally hit your breaking point you have a conversation and end up back in the relationship for a couple of days. And then you finally break it off. That's fine. I have no issues with that. Jesse tries to paint it in a different way. Like, I thought we were good. We had a good dinner. We did this. We did that. It's like, well, you're not really seeing it the right way. But Jesse should know better. And I love it when we're doing this. And he's talking to West about like dating. And he said something on the watch Ravens Live that kind of goes against this. But when he's talking about dating again, I'm like, what do you mean?

You're excited to get back to just like dating outside of the house. You're excited to like, see where things go. Isn't that what you were doing before this? Like, this isn't a new thing. You've been in a relationship for a month. Why are you talking like you've been in a relationship for like five years and you're excited to be single? I guess that's what it feels like.

That's not what he was saying. He was saying, I'm excited to explore my relationship with Lexi in the city. He confirmed that on Watch What Happens Live, but everybody was very confused about that. Oh, I wasn't. I figured that what he meant. I don't think that's what he meant at all.

I think he backtracked and did that. So I guess it sounded good enough. But even Andy was like, that's not what you said. Oh, see, I just took that for, I thought he phrased it weird. But I was like, I think he means, you know, away from the house. There's no cameras. It's like, I'm excited to see what our relationship looks like in a normal setting. That's what I got from it.

No, he phrased. No, you fell for Jesse's trap, I think. Oh, fuck off. It might be the opposite. I don't think so because the way that he phrased it was bizarre. He said, I'm ready to date outside of the house. That's not for the relationship outside. it. Yeah, see, you fell for it.

I don't think that's falling for it. I really don't. I think that you're dumb and didn't pick up. You got gas lit by Jesse and you fell for it. It's okay. It happened to Lexi all summer. But if you, let's use logic instead of being an idiot about it. If you look at it, like in the structure of what he was saying and when he was saying it, it makes a lot of sense if he was alluding to, I'm excited to date her out of the house. That's, it seemed pretty black and white to me.

But he didn't say that. He didn't say, I'm excited to date her outside of the house. He said, I'm excited to date outside of the house. I don't think that that was given how. he'd been talking about her, this is not the important part of the episode, by the way, but given the, like, how he'd been talking about the relationship up until that point, and then he says that I got that from it. So I don't

think I fell for a trap. I think he phrased it weird, but he does a lot of shit weird. So that's his problem. He phrases it weird intentionally. I mean, that's his problem is like, he leaves the door open and then shit falls apart. He's like, that's not what I met. It's like, well, you do this to yourself. So, yeah, regardless of intention there,

you leave the door open to allow for speculation, and that's part of his problem. I think we can tell pretty quickly that his main intention, the only thing that he was intent on doing, was repairing his relationship with Sierra. He did not care about what else happened around him, all the fallout of anything. And that's fine. I don't give a shit. I don't think that you're, him and Lexi shouldn't have been together to begin with. So if you're going to prioritize a friendship with Sierra over that, well, that's not what he's doing either.

That makes sense. What do you mean? He's in love with Sierra. I see, yes, but it's different. I think he's in love with the idea of Sierra. I think he's in love with the idea of dating her, being wildly attracted to her. They get along. She gets his humor, all those things.

I think in his subconscious, he's like, this is what a real relationship should be like. Now, if they actually date it, he'd fuck it up immediately. I don't think he has, he doesn't have the capacity to date Sierra. But in his, like, that's what I do think. I really hope. And I know Sierra said a couple of things or a couple of times, you know, that door is completely shut. It was never really open.

we're not going to date, we're just friends. Jesse on Watch What Happens Live said friends like seven times to one of the questions and even ended the question with friends, guys, we're just friends. So he wants people to speculate a little bit more. And, you know, obviously we can take a little bit of what Lexi said in these past couple of weeks on various podcasts with a great assault. But there is some truth somewhere in there that he does like being the center of attention, whether it's good or bad.

And I think he's playing into it a little bit more than you probably should be, to be honest. Yeah, I agree. But why don't we jump into this episode because it picks up immediately at the beach conversation with Sierra and Jesse. And again, he gets upset about the things that people say about him. I don't like that you're calling me two-faced and a liar. It's like, well, then you probably shouldn't be too-faced in a liar and people won't call you two-faced in a liar. He goes, it hurts a lot. It's like, you're an idiot, dude. You, you act like a dumbass. You get called out and they're like, I don't like when you say that. It's like, it's not doing it's hurtful you hurt my feelings you hurt their feelings i know fucking moron like

you know what my gripe this is this is actually a pretty funny gripe my gripe is we should have ended the last episode with this whole conversation and picked up in the city this week i did not need 30 seconds of their conversation and then quote unquote getting back together and being friends again them going to bed and then leaving for the city the next morning in the first two minutes of this episode what were we doing they needed some filler probably they just needed a little bit of filler and that's what they got here and like what this proved because sierra obviously her initial reaction is i don't care anymore i'm over i'm waiting for this to be over so i can move on from this whole thing he didn't back off he kept kind of pressing it and emphasizing how important

she was and this friendship's important and it's more than just something you can brush off it works she gets to a point where she's like look i'm salty but i'll get over it this is not irreparable what this proved was if west had balls last year or at some point this year and sat down and had a similar conversation when shit got rocky he kept pushing like no no this is important to me there might have been a path forward that was a little easier than what we got i mean i think they're finally in a decent spot she did ask him if he's driving forward yeah that's huge those are my favorite moments of the show anymore same it's so fucking they're so great. And look, I understand it's a much different scenario. I don't think she would have been

like buddy, buddy with West, but this did show like all I think she needed to be able to move on earlier was had he been able to sit down and at least hash it out to the point where it's like at least everything's out in the open now. There's no more question marks. I think it might have resolved things a little bit quicker. I think so one, I'll say Jesse and West are very different people. And you can see that in a lot of different circumstances. Sure. So if it were to come down to that, I still don't think West would have had that conversation. I think it's just too uncomfortable for him to have and he's afraid of those conversations. Oh, fully agree.

I fully agree with that. But the one caveat is, them being Sierra and West, they broke up off camera. The show was not running. This whole thing happens months after the summer ended and that it started up. We found out about it a little bit later. And then the show started and we're like, oh, shit, this is weird. And there's a lot of like news reports about the two of them breaking up and being weird and all this shit. Jesse and Sierra

this was fully on camera this was very much so and I think Jesse probably still would have had this conversation but it probably would have gone a little different when they do it on camera

it's always going to be different he's very cognizant of the camera very cognizant he knows what he looks like in certain circumstances and I think he didn't want to let it get too far but he still plays the victim card

a little too much it's so weird he does it later too I'm like what do you not understand it's one of those situations where if he was better at it and he had the pieces in the right places and then played the victim card and was gaslighting, it would be awesome reality TV because it would just show like, hey, wow, you're thinking like two, three steps ahead and these people are falling

forth that you're the victim. He doesn't do that. He just does a bunch of shit and then tries to backtrack and then make up stories and then tell different people, different things and isolate them like Lexi and then has this conversation with Sierra where he's like, yeah, my feelings are hurt. Why are you going to do that to me? I don't want you to do that to me. It's like, what are you talking about? It's not making me feel bad. Yeah. If he set it up better, I'd be like, wow, that's fucking, that's a mastery at gaslighting. But instead it's like, what do you do it? Why do you think this is going to work? It goes back to our theory of he's done this, his whole life in his dating life, but it's never been on camera. So it's probably worked. You know, and now he's doing the same shit on camera where we're all breaking it down and analyzing it like, you're in a fucking idiot, man. And it's like, why isn't this working? It's like because we're scrutinizing you. There's more people scrutinizing what you're doing. It's not one person that you're getting to fall for your gaslighting. We're watching it and going, that's wrong.

You're wrong. Why do you not get it? Great TV. Great TV. But it's very confusing to watch for me. But the funniest part is at the end of the conversation, you know, he's like, oh, you can't get rid of me, blah, blah, blah. Like they make up and the flirting resumes immediately.

Immediately. Instantly. I'm like, you guys just want to fuck. And it's so obvious. And this is where I get annoyed with Sierra. It's like, come on. Stick to your fucking guns for one. Yeah, bro.

Like, you're sticking to your guns very hard with West. You said, I'll get over it. I'll get over it. I'll get over it. I'll get over it. And then immediately you're over it and flirting. The sexual chemistry is undeniable. That's the only thing that you can point to where it's like this guy, he's not such a

great friend that you can't get rid of him. Like if you and Amanda had a big fight or you and Paige had a big fight and you guys sat down and you're like all right I'll get over it it's not that big of a deal that would make sense because you guys are good friends this is jesse this is just a guy that like there's some weird sexual chemistry there there's some tension a lot of shit's been building up all summer and last summer and now you're at a point where you're like so that big of a deal but you've got west sitting over here and i know west like went on a fucking rampage and started talking about your relationship and gaslighting and all that store and all that shit but like you're still mad at the

guy and he's been nothing but silent and trying to be nice to you the whole time but you've forgive Jesse immediately even though you're the person that he used to drive a wedge between his own relationship like he blamed you for the two of them like having or being on the rocks and you're like yeah all right whatever you look at that smile I can't deny you didn't hear you big goofy bastard but they get back to the house and Jesse and Lexi are like recapping the Sierra stuff and you know I guess give him credit for being transparent about the Sierra stuff but at the same time. I'm like, I mean, to a certain extent. Like, the fact that he's talking. Why wouldn't he just sit here and be like, you know what? There was some shit said, but you know what? I think we cleared

the air and we're going to be okay. And leave it at that. He goes to. I'm like, you're talking to your girlfriend about another girl and like your relationship, hurting your feelings and making you feel emotions. Emotions. And then trying to like, what are you doing? Just say you cleared the air and everything's going to be fine. And I guess, you know, that kind of sets us up for later in the episode, too, because the way that he's talking about that conversation, we just watched it. It was weird. It made no sense. And then at the end, you guys made up and immediately started flirting. You go to Lexi and you're like, you know, I just don't really get it. I don't know why she feels that way about me. And it kind of hurt my feelings. And I feel like, you know,

she's not giving me a chance and she's blaming me for stuff. And I don't really like it. It's like, we didn't just watch that. First of all, you guys are good. Second, why are talking like this to your girl like what are you doing she's not going to be comfortable with this funny thing is i think i've moved past that i don't even look at it like that no which is fine because it's just like whatever but like from that standpoint it's like how do you think she's going to take this even if she likes sierra she's not going to be like oh great you're getting closer with her again and that's such a weird move i agree that's what leads to her going to confessionals and being like if you want to be friends with her like whatever

go for it i'm like now she's right away about sierra because of you jessie it doesn't clear the air with your girlfriend at all it just brings up more questions that's what she says i have questions i'm like you should you probably should have questions and i've gotten past you know five six episodes ago i would have said that he's just self-sabotaging and trying to do things so that lexie breaks up with him he's not he's not trying to do that like i'm fully convinced now that he's just doing weird shit and then realizing wow that was such a bad move why did it doubles down i don't i don't understand it it's fucking confusing i can't i can't wrap my head You can get protein at home or a protein latte at Tim's.

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with South Moon Under, which is awesome. And she's talking about how she's found herself with this whole thing and getting on the correct medication. And we've seen it. Like we've seen a different Amanda, much happier Amanda. So all this stuff is super exciting. But while we're at the party, it's nice to see Kyle there supportive, supporting his wife, supporting her endeavors. Niceer to see her dad. I love her dad. Yeah, and her pops is there. That's great. I love to see that. I always, I'm always curious about what his actual opinion of Kyle is. Like, I want that so bad. Well, you did see the scene of Kyle and Amanda after Kyle cheated on her. Yes. I've seen that a hundred times. Yeah. So, yeah, I'm with you every time. I think he just kind of like,

yeah, Kyle's all right. He has to put up with it. I think Kyle has been incredible this season. Oh, he's been great. He's been great. He went to bed with Amanda, like, he's made a lot of big moves. I told you I'd go to bed with you tonight. No one else is doing anything.

It's nice to see. Look, credit where credits do. But Lexi's there with her sister, of course, and they're talking to Gabby. And they bring up Jesse to the sister. and she's like well like this this kind of shit she's like well uh is he doing good and sis is like i mean he did buy mom and i tequila last week it's like oh good good good when we went the fucking strip club together like what what i can't with their family man it's weird bro it's fucking weird and like that's not a big in the same bed like they're they give me the

fucking creeps the whole family gives me the it doesn't make sense where is the dad probably at home like this is weird did her parents get a divorce like what happens i don't know what's going on there i really don't know what's going on there and like lexie's mom divorced her dad to go chase her dreams of piggybacking off of her model daughter yeah like yes like i don't fucking know bro i've got bigger things to do here that's not a big one up that he bought you tequila like sick like yeah he bought shots at the bar like like like you should have seen when when lexie walked in with her sister it was just an audible grown like uh i know it's like here we go Enough with the sister.

I don't get it. But we head back to the house. You know, Amanda gives her speech at the event, just feeling empowered and all those good things. But we get back to the summer house, West and Jesse driving up together. And it's funny to hear the two differences in summers because West is like, man, this is feel fast. And Jesse's like, no. The long as eight weeks of my life. This has been two years of my life.

It feels like, he's like, boys weekend. He's like, hell, yeah. He's like, are you allowed to have boys weekend? all know all right what a bummer but unbeknownst to us foreshadowing a little foreshadowing there because immediately and this is quite possibly we've had a lot of juxtaposed scenes over the years right you guys can all attest to that listening we say this this line a lot juxtapose scene this is my favorite i've ever seen because on one hand you've got jessey who's stoked that he and lexier finally in a good place i'm excited that we're finally past all this bullshit

shit. We had a solid date on Tuesday night. Things are looking up for your boy. I'm looking forward to not arguing this weekend. Blah, blah, blah. Jump over to the other car. Lexi's like, yeah, so I invited Jesse over for drinks at 9 o'clock and he said he had to get a manicure. And I didn't believe him, obviously, which led me to think, I don't trust this man, which led me to the decision. I no longer want to date this guy. Flash over to Jesse. I'm so excited to hang with Lexi. Flash over to Lexi. How do I break up with this guy? Yeah. No, this was this was perfect. And it's so funny. And this is like the best penance too that you get broken up with the last weekend of the summer. Like you don't even get to have. West is sitting there like, let's do it. You get a sad. And obviously it's going to be a little weird. I don't care how he feels about the relationship. Like if he broke, if Lexi breaks up with him and he turns around and he's trying to be happy, it's still going to have like some dark cloud following him all weekend. He doesn't even get to have fun that last weekend. your summer is now ruined like the summer of 2024 for jesse you look back you just block it out

total wash there's nothing there to like sink your teeth into like wow that was a great moment nope you get nothing nothing at all you get a big fat zero of this summer yeah you fuck the whole summer i want you no points and may god have mercy on your soul correct that's where we're at that's where we're at because you look back what do you have the show for it getting broken up at the last weekend you fought the entire summer you were miserable the whole summer you're getting in trouble because you don't know how to be in a relationship all summer. Wes tried to warn you early in the summer.

Now he gets to say, I told you so if he wants to, you almost fucked up your friendship with Sierra. You almost fucked up friendships in the house. You ruined Lexi's summer in turn. Nice job. Great. Great.

And by the way, if Lexi's going to come back next season, you have to deal with it again. So maybe the beginning of next summer is also going to suck. Yep. Just look at West. That's what next year is. That's what you get to look forward to.

And that's where him and West being very different people is going to come into play. he's not going to do the chivalrous. I'm not going to bring any girls back. I'm not going to flirt with any girls. Like, West did that all summer. West had one night where he actually stayed out at a friend's house out of respect, probably hooked up with a chick, came back. He confirmed he hooked up with a chick on the couch.

Just, yeah, which is kind of funny. But didn't really go into it and just kind of moved on and moved around the house silently and just tried to focus on the things that he's good at, which is a little one-liners here and there and making relationships with the people in the house that aren't Sierra. Perfect. But Jesse's not going to do that. I know what the first weekend.

Actually, what's it coming up here in like six weeks? That first weekend in July is going to be awful if Lexi's there. It's going to be must see TV next year, but awful. Agreed. But we get back to the house. Carl pulls up with the soft bar truck and, you know, it's all he has to care about right now. He's putting all his eggs in this basket. We've talked about this already.

But he hasn't gone on Instagram, but was sent this post. I can't imagine how many times people sent him this post in the DMs because people said I'm assuming she blocked him. And also, I don't believe that he didn't go on Instagram. Oh, he definitely did. Carl lives in the comments on Instagram. We've seen him a lot of times. I don't think Lindsay blocked him. I think that she probably did at some point, but I imagine at this point he's unblocked.

Well, I imagine he probably doesn't follow her. So it's not going to be like that conclusive, but would be kind of funny if he had a follower. Everyone sent the post to him, which is not surprising either. but yeah the post is hysterical i'm sorry like she goes on a timeline rant about what this past year has been since quote unquote freedom day is what she's calling still up yeah it definitely is there's no way she took it down got she posts a lot that's just primary service in last year yeah that's a really good point she's a full-time influencer oh yeah what was the picture it was her sitting down or not her it does her it has got it she still has it up

august 30th 2023 breakup slash the beginning of what was supposed to come 2023 september still went on my bachelorette trip with all my girlfriends which gave me the strength and confidence to start moving forward october 2023 travel travel travel november 2023 bravo con december 2023 closed on my house so that's we at least now see this is what I appreciate by Lindsay. We always want a timeline. Give me a fucking timeline month to month for the love of God. January 2024 reconnected with my man and started going on dates with him.

24 in February, installed and kicked off Nash House for being ready for rent. Summerhouse Season 8 premiere. And she got pregnant in April 24. And this is just great. It's so top heavy, starting off with a breakup, going into the Bachelorette trip, going into finding herself, closing on a house. and then it's like got engaged or got engaged got pregnant and then moved on with my life and that's pretty much where it is it's so funny dude i just found it by the shot it's such a shot at carl it's

it like that's all it is it's all it is it's all it is it's it can be masked however you want to mask it this is my big liberation day blah blah blah doing this and posting it on the way to the house is intentional having this dinner is intentional it's all just to fuck you to carl and like Like, look, I love the sandwiches up and then her replacing the sandwiches. That was a coincidence, but it's fucking hilarious. I know. It's fucking hysterical. Like that's, I'm not taking away from what Lindsay brings to the show.

Even the freedom dinner itself is such good TV. But it's like, you can't sit there and say you're over this whole thing. And you keep doing shit like this, taking shots directly at Carl. It's fucking hysterical. But they're all getting to the house. and you know Carl sees or hears about the post and he's like it says something different when you put all that shit out there i'm like it does you're correct with that whole thing but you can tell she wanted to get responses she wants reactions because west simply states

oh i saw your post what does that mean uh uh i read it i read it i read the post what do i say now i got to go outside i got to go outside i love you bye and everyone's just kind of reacting to this whole thing west is in trouble now so he's outside going like i don't know what to do but meanwhile the girls are in the kitchen and lexie is just trying to figure out when's the right time to pull the trigger when do i do this where do i go yeah where do i go i want to do it quickly so that the weekend's not ruined yeah i'm i'm at home like ooh come out do it now right now she does she walks outside and the boys are talking and jesse already says like yeah it just feels little off and then other guys like yeah i noticed like a little energy shift too she walks over hey can we

talk on kyle's balcony it's like oh you know you got to know we forgot to mention that emerald's back by the way oh yeah emeral's there which is good acting like he wasn't edited out in last episode so it's so crazy the emerald treatment has been wild to watch but jesse and lexy sit down on the on the balcony to have a quick chit chat and when she opened it up i was like uh oh i don't think she's going to do it because she's like i just want to make sure like we're real And I was like, what the fuck does that mean? Like, we're going to fix this again. No.

But while they're having their conversation, Sierra arrives to the house, which is important to note. But when she gets into it, I thought she did a good job. She's like, I'm looking for a deeper relationship, something that you're not giving me. I haven't been able to really break through with that whole thing. And I've found myself rationalizing all of your behavior. And you're clearly just not ready for the relationship that I am. I was like, that's a good way to put it.

And I agree. I don't think he's on the same. level that you are and that's okay well said of course jesse starts acting like he's surprised by this whole thing he's like you know i thought everything was good after this past week i don't really know what happened and the bottom line she can't trust you i don't know why she would you've given a lot of reasons for her to not trust you but on the flip side if if you have to say in a one month relationship i've been making an effort to abide by the rules yeah that you have constant rules and guidelines it's not going to be a successful relationship anyway that was the immediate

like come on that's exactly what we're talking about here and i wish that lexie could have just pointed them out right then and there because that's as cut and clear as you can get as soon as he says i feel like i've been doing a good job following the rules that you pushed on me it's like okay there's the problem how do you not realize when that comes out of your mouth that's what this is all about like this is pretty much exactly what we're talking about where you're saying that she's got these rules. And this is mutual, by the way. This isn't even on Jesse. This is on both of them. If she's telling you, you need to do this, this and this and this if you want to be in a relationship with me and you're abiding by that and it doesn't come up to your standards with how you want

to live, the relationship's not going to work. That's what this is in a nutshell. So you guys are both viewing it like that. You're clearly saying these are rules. She's saying this is how I expect you to be in a relationship. It's not going to work. So I don't understand how it wasn't just mutual at that point. Like, hey, that's what I'm talking about. But yeah. Because he, he doesn't see what she's saying. And she gives him an example, say, for example, like the manicure thing. Like, I want you to come over and hang with my friends, get to meet them, all that stuff. You told me that you had to get a manicure.

And here we go. He's like, well, that's not what I said. I said it was getting a manicure. It's like, okay, whatever the reason may have been, like the whole point that she's saying is when you said that, the immediate thought was he's lying to me. Yeah. And she even reiterates, like, you might have been doing that. And it's not fair that that my first thought is.

that he's lying but that's what all he heard was liar all he heard was lie liar and that's pretty much what she's been saying to him for like weeks but he's not getting it it's just the feeling that she gets because of the way you've acted all summer right that when you say something she doesn't believe you immediately and that's a problem so a flag goes up immediately and he's like well i just feel like you're calling me a liar like you're disparaging my name like i feel like i'm not a liar i'm not lying about this i was getting a manicure it's like you may have been but she doesn't believe you and that's neither do we by the way

I don't believe that I believe you got one I don't believe that you're doing at 9.30 p.m. I know it's the city He said on watch what happens live he's like yeah you know I was coming back from Amanda's event and just decided I wanted to get a manicure and those things are open to like midnight so I just stopped in

but again like I have possible but yeah I'm like I don't know man I really don't know but she kind of hammers the nail in the coffin with you changed me I don't trust you I don't trust you I don't trust anybody now the light in me is slowly dying i was like fuck who that's heavy and i was i was laughing my ass off of this oh yeah it was it was real deep and like this is when he gets defensive i don't appreciate you saying i've been lying off summer i don't appreciate you calling me a liar

you made me feel bad it's like all right jesse because you just said it in this scene i didn't not say that it's like lying by omission is lying one two if you're saying one thing to Lexi and something else to everybody else, you're lying to Lexi. You lied the whole summer, the toe thing. He's like, I guess that was a lie. That's his example. That's what I keep going back to is if it was just a toe suck, you would move on from it. Instead, he keeps doing it. He tried to play it off as a joke for a long time. That didn't work. So now he's saying, yeah, you know what, like, that's a lie of omission. I didn't tell you that because it was weird and I didn't think it was necessary to tell you, but I learned my lesson.

That's a lie. Dude, you're probably still lying about it, by the way. And that's the one thing that I need from the reunion. And I know, you know, next week is the season finale, and then we'll probably get a two-parter for summer. I would imagine. They better fucking drum down on

that shit. Imruel needs to spill the tea before he sails after. And he's not going to. I just don't think Emerald's messy like that. But Andy's got to have a million questions about that, right? And everybody in the cast has to have a million questions about it after seeing at 37 minutes in there and that's what you did like one toe suck come on and then you said i'm hard yeah yeah we need saying there's a lot of questions but like the point is the underlying

point of all of this is you lied all summer dude so if you feel a certain way about being called a liar and disparaging your name lexie didn't do that she didn't put you in these spots your decisions put you in these spots and you don't like when people call you out because it's never happened to you before do i think that you're inherently a bad person i don't and that's why i think this is hard for you to hear you never heard people talk shit about you yeah because you haven't been on tv you keep fucking up you get upset of people calling you out there's no coincidence right now that in the same week sierra and lexie both had similar conversations with you about your behavior that's not a coincidence that means you the common denominator are doing something wrong stop saying i don't like when you say

that about me and stop doing the things that you don't like people saying about you and they won't talk about it because you didn't do them but you did them so shut the fuck up and just take your beating and like stop he doesn't i can't but he can't and i think that honestly the way that the summer played out it went on for so much longer because the first half of the summer is what he's used too. The first half of the summer was everybody in the house making excuses for it. That's just how Jesse is. What do you mean? You can't comment all my Instagram picks anymore. I'm going to be pissed about that. I love those comments. They're funny. Wait, she's making you do that. Everybody fell for it. It even got to the point where, what was it, Craig and Amanda were sitting over there

while he's dating Lexi and exclusively Lexi. Routing for him in Sierra. Ruding for him and Sierra to hook up. And that's probably what Jesse's been used to. That's probably how his life has gone so far. And then it finally took a turn when everybody else is like, wait a minute. this is kind of now Lexi's starting to speak up and we're hearing things and they're on the rocks and we're hearing them argue this isn't what he was saying to me this isn't what he was acting like he was definitely flirted with Sierra why is he saying he wasn't what the fuck's actually going on that's when the girl started to turn was when they would hear the arguments and hear Lexi speaking up and they're like well yeah no this is bad behavior we do need to step in and at least try to separate them and tell Lexi to go a different way because it's not going to work out so that first half of the summer was just all of his normal life And then it finally turned, and he's completely caught off guard by that. Like, what do you mean? Like, even in this moment, like, after they break up and he's talking, he's like, you know, I just, I was excited to, like, date her away.

And he does say it here. I was excited to date her out of the house away from all you idiots. It's like, that's what you've been trying to do all summer. You've been trying to isolate her from those idiots. You did for you can have your way. Yeah. Yeah. It's so annoying.

It's so frustrating that he, like, I would be so irritated trying to talk to him about this. And he'd be like, what do you mean? It's like, what do you mean? What do I mean? How do you not see what we see? Going back to the toe suck thing, like, I might even just off the record, just ask them. Like, come on. Just for me, just for me.

I'm very, very, look, I'm selfish as a person. I just need to know. I'm not going to share it with the audience. I just, I need to know. I just tell me. I won't tell anybody. Yeah, yeah. But we get this split scene between the boys and the girls, you know, the boys are talking,

hey, man, you okay. Yeah, we're. broken up. West is clearly pumped, but, you know, he's like, hey, let's go chit-chat, uh, because Jesse's like, can we go in for a little bit? So they go to talk. They're going to go lay down and be sad for a bit. Yeah, I'm just going to go lay down and be sad with West for a little bit.

But Kyle's like, you know, this whole thing doesn't make a whole lot of sense given the timeline. And we all agree with that. But then he brings up the Ick comment because while Jesse and Lexi were talking, Sierra points out, oh, it sounds like Lexi got the I little bit. And it does sound a little bit like that. I think it's a little deeper than just an it's way deeper than just an ink yeah but i mean the underlying feeling i do get like

yeah it's it's probably a little icky but they're trying to figure it out and it made me feel really old when we start going through the new phrasing oh dude i didn't know any of them if it makes you feel anybody orbiting roaching and zombieing or zombieing zombieing i kind of knew orbiting i think is that you just like constantly around the person but never want to like fully dive in I think so. Yeah. I think it's like you're always kind of around, but like you're not really in a relationship. You're just kind of around each other.

Roaching. Roaching, I have no idea. Oh, oh, I know what roaching is. When the lights turn on, you get the fuck out of there. Oh. That's funny. If it's not that, it should be that. That's our, that's how we're going to use it.

I don't know what everyone else is, but that's what we're going to use. But the girls are talking and, you know, Lex, is handling it pretty well. I think that this was a foregone conclusion that this is going to happen. So it doesn't sting nearly as much. And she's talking about how she feels like she's been isolated from the ladies all summer, which is 100% true. She has been isolated from everybody.

But like, yes, I'm not, but I'm not going to put all of that on Jesse. Yeah, it's more, it's more on Jesse than it is on her. But like, you also did this to yourself by doing. Yeah, you have to take some account of. that you didn't make more of an effort. They were talking to her about like Bailey and stuff. And she was saying that she wished that Bailey hung around a little bit more because then they could have been newbies going in together. And she ended up just orbiting around Jesse and West because they were the next level up.

They were the next closest newbies that were on the show. So she wanted to like kind of latch on. And Amanda didn't make it easy early on. Like she kind of stiff armed her out of like the girl. But apparently Amanda knew her. Amanda was the one who asked her if she wanted to be on the show a couple of years ago too. So they didn't know each other. beforehand that that's like where it gets a little too weird but i do think that where she was

with jesse right away is why the rest of the house was like yeah you're kind of annoying like i would do the same thing to be fair if you meet somebody new and they're just immediately shacking up with somebody else and being all lovey-dovey and pda all the fucking time if they walked into a room yeah yeah go away you don't grown no i agree with that but i i do think that's important to know like that is did jesse not all on yes it's not all on him you know it takes some accountability there too but west and jesse are talking and again he's like she made me out to be a liar you know because like she says the toe thing like i didn't tell her because i thought it would be weird like she said that's a lie it's like that is a lie bro that's a lie he's like in like the half

truths i told i was like those are lies you're saying all the things you did wrong but you're acting like that justifies what you did That doesn't make sense to me in my brain. It doesn't track. I don't understand it. It's like, brother, you lied the whole summer, the entire summer. Exactly. Ontario, the weight is over.

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Wherever you get your podcast. Unless you get them from a snack machine, in which case, call us. But Paige joins and, you know, she doesn't trust me because I lied too much. I felt like we were so close to like breaking out of this thing and being able to move forward. And then everybody comes. This also shows you. where the loyalty really lies in the house despite lexie going through it this summer everybody goes upstairs to jesse solomon's room and he drops it didn't strike me as like a we need to

go check on him to make sure he's okay no it was almost like a it was almost like a joke like a house-wide joke like oh let's go check this out yeah let's see the fall out is he sad or is he goofed around what's going on over here you can look at it that way but i'm just saying optics like if i'm lexie i'm like fuck nobody cares about me like everyone went to check on him after he was a dick to me all summer but yeah he drops a bomb in there she's upset that i had a nice time with sierra while sierra's in the room and sara's like wait whoa like i'm back in this whole thing now so drags her back in and do i think that this happened i do i 100% do but i also think that if you're in a relationship that's been rocky and you've probably been bitching and moaning about

Sierra for the past two weeks, venting your frustrations to Lexi, which we've seen how you talk about Sierra to her. It's already bizarre. So she's hearing that. And then there's stories on Instagram of you and Sierra at the U.S. Open drinking together, laughing, hanging out like nothing happened. If I'm Lexi, I feel some type of way about that. And I would voice that to him. Like that wouldn't sit that well with me. So I get that. And do I think that here's the thing that's like the disconnect and then you go, Lexi's claiming. I never said shit about Sierra. I don't believe that.

I do think that she's like, what the fuck's going on? But I also think that I understand why she asked that. Like, that's not crazy to me. No, she's doing it because of the way that Jesse talked about it. We saw it last week when the two of them were talking after the Sierra conversation, which all of us watched and said, oh, well, there we go. They squashed that. They're going to be friends again.

They're going to start flirting again. Instead, it had a completely different tone. Jesse felt like he was betrayed by Sierra and he was hurt by Sierra. and he doesn't understand what he did and he doesn't like where they are and then a day later you're hanging out with her saying everything's fine it's going to fuck the girl up lexie's not going to know which way is up she's not going to know how to respond and she's not going to trust sierra so of course she's still going to be on your side because you're her boyfriend and she's going to say things like well how did that come about or why were you hanging out with her is everything okay what's

going on can you trust her and by the way i'm sure jesse's response to all of that was probably more in line with what he was saying to Lexi after the Sierra conversation on the beach that it was in what he's saying right now in this moment he's saying yeah we had a great time and we were getting closer and it felt like we were friends again he didn't go back home and tell Lexi that he went back home and said yeah you know it's still like a little weird and I'm trying to like figure it out but like it was nice to see her I just you know I don't want her to like feel weird around me and do this and that and whatever so yeah it's going to confuse the girl because he's lying to her and you always play the victim you're always the sad guy in the situation

And never the aggressor of the person causing the problem. So, yeah, she's going to have a lot of questions. And now Sierra has a lot of questions. And then Jesse's like, I don't want to throw her under the bus. It's like, you just did. You just did. You just set Sierra out at her. Yeah, bus hath been thrown, sir.

So you can't pull it back now. We get a West and Jesse little bro hug, you know, yeah, those are important. Even when your bro's an idiot, you got to. Even when it smells like a gym in there. Yep. Even when it smells like a gym, which, you know, is hurtful. West even points out like, hey, don't, don't. Don't drag my name.

It smells a little bit hurtful. It smells a little bit hurtful. It's not too, because Jesse hasn't even been in there. Like Jesse stays with Lexi. Yes, it's all West. Yeah, poor guy. Poor guy. But Sierra Page and Hannah are talking.

And Sierra's like, she's making me out to be a mean girl. It's like, all right, but there's more there. Yes, she is kind of. But why is she making out to be a mean girl? Like, there's a lot more layers to this whole thing. And then Kyle goes to check on Lexi and Kyle does what the dad of the house. Yeah, it gives her a hug around the neck. And he's like, you know, and this is just.

he knows what he's doing but he knows what he's doing like he knows how to push the show forward if i think he also was trying to be comforting here and instead lights a fire he's still spiraling from the yick comment he doesn't understand the yick thing he doesn't know what it means and i think he's just like yeah what the fuck's going on i feel like i'm going to have a conversation with her and i'm not going to know what i'm talking about like i'm not going to be able to talk in her language she's not going to understand what i'm talking about at all correct he's right because he starts it out he's like so like how much of this had to do with like you guys and how much had to do with Sierra.

Lexi's like, what are you talking about? He's like, uh, I think it is. I think it's a valid question. Yeah. But Lexi asks,

acts like, it makes no, she's like, what the fuck does that even mean? And Kyle's like, uh, uh, yeah,

fuck. Well, he said upstairs that you broke up because of his relationship with Sierra. I was like, that's not what he said. That's not what he said. That's not what he said.

That's not what he said at all. Oh, shit, Kyle. Like you're trying to help and he made it a lot worse. Like, are two very different stories. I can understand how Kyle got that from the conversation. Being a dude and listening in and the whole summer, it seems like Sierra has been like the focus of their relationship. So I don't blame him for thinking that because it does kind of seem like

that. And that's not really what he said. But from Kyle's perspective, that is kind of what's going on here. From our perspective, it is a huge piece of it. Jesse is mostly to blame. But like, and I'm not saying Sierra is to blame at all. I think she could have backed off a bunch of different times. but she could have still not the guilty party she's she's not not guilty she's just not guilty she's shouldn't be a part of it she's just there she's just there she's she's just a figure in the middle of their relationship for whatever reason so i don't blame kyle for thinking that and and conveying that to lexie because it kind of felt like that no and i thought her response was fine where she's like you know obviously i'm going to get protective because i'm dating him and then

i also think that it did happen because of the the wording when jesse's like you know she got pissed at me, saying that I don't have protective instincts and this and that and the other. I'm like, that sounds like that happened. So I don't think that Lexi's telling the truth. And like, I've never brought her up. I'm like, yeah, you did. You did. And then for Jesse to say what he said, I'm like, well, he's also just adding, I don't know why he's

trying to stoke this fire. Just like, let this whole thing die, dude. This thing could be over, but you keep pushing it. And he just doesn't, whatever. It's just really funny because this could have been squashed. like you broke up it's over it could have I still think there would have been weird feelings sure what this does is it gets us ahead of a potential the party tomorrow with jesse and sierra talking a bunch and lexie sitting in the corner staring at them eventually this would

have popped off and it would have happened either way so i think that kyle's expedites it a little bit and also i just love kyle at the end of this well hold on hold on hold i don't want to like to play a game a telephone just like we already did that where this is what happened you started the telephone game you came down here to console me and ended up telling me what you heard jesse say which isn't what he said but you're whispering down the lane and you changed it so we're already starting the game kyle the die has been cast but it's funny because there's just scheming everywhere the whole house is each little click is scheming on how to handle the next step you got some girls upstairs like sierra what are you going to say like of course i'm going to bring it off i don't

know what to say. I'm going to say this. And he got Lexi talking to Kyle like, well, what else did you hear? Then he got Jesse talking to West. Jesse's like, I don't even know what to do. Everyone keeps calling me a liar. I don't get it. Everyone's trying to figure out how to navigate forward. Yeah. And the fact that we get to do it at a freedom dinner, which is already shady to begin with. Now we have more shade coming in. I was so excited. She's great. She's great because we sit down at the quote unquote freedom dinner. The setup alone is fucking insane. Carl, you know is going to be at the table you just threw his sandwiches away to replace him with your own jimmy john sandwiches and the first thing you say at the table this is the one year

anniversary and like jesse makes a face everyone's like visibly uncomfortable it's like this is kind of awkward uh she's like well in case you to look at instagram and car's like i didn't look at it but i sure had it sent to me i'm glad he spoke up car car does always speak up when it comes to a lindsay like if lindsay's trying to be shady towards him he always has something to say and he's the only one who can never really like form a sentence when going back at lindsay it's kind of funny yeah but like he's not wrong when he is like you know i had to read paragraph after paragraph stating a reality that i don't really agree with and she's like that's fine you don't have to why don't you post about i'm like the whole point that you're trying to get across lindsay is that you know this whole

thing was this big liberation and you're in such a great place now it's a year later you're pregnant you're with Turner and you're claiming to be completely over it all this post tells me is that you're not over this you're not at all and that's okay

like it was a big thing sure but like you're actively taking shots at Carl now whom for better or worse you guys got along fairly well for the entirety of the song

yeah the last two episodes he could definitely do better and we talked about it last week where it's like Carl this is best case scenario like yes you're going to have to survive a couple of little shady moments and jabs from Lindsay, but it's not going to be that bad. It could have been so much worse.

She could have made your summer a living hell, and she didn't. She just chose not to. She decided to go of this route, which is way funnier for us. Oh, for sure. This is the best that you can do. Why are you poking the bear? This in this moment, I'm okay with him poking the bear because she's right there. But in the other moments, right before she gets there, and he goes and basically doubles

down on what he said last week about her being embarrassed. Yeah, don't say that stuff. is this week he's saying more this is embarrassing why is she doing this i can't believe it and this just shows you she's not over it she's still thinking about this so yeah that sucks for her that's the shit that's going to get you in trouble at the reunion and by the way she had the baby so she's not pregnant anymore pregnant lindsay was lovely let's see if real linds he comes back and just goes after you at the reunion for those comments because you're not doing yourself any favors no just let it happen let it play out yeah i'm sure it's annoying yeah yeah

funny though it was great like i'm not taking away from the scene and i'm i'm glad that lindsay did this it's just when you break it down from a you're not over it yet standpoint it's quite clear like if you did you wrote by the way five paragraphs on instagram leaning into it's a freedom dinner for everybody you're free too carl and by the way jesse lexie you guys are free that was amanda choking on the sandwich during that was all of us that was all of us i was like oh my god i'm like why did you bring them into this whole thing like what the fucking funny fuck it's so great she's the best thank you for setting me free happy we're both happy i'm like this is the most dysfunctional toxic funniest shit i've seen and what a way to cap off the summer

well done but lexie jumps in well this was at the end of lindsay's freedom dinner she did say imbrile you want to give a weird speech yeah and he's like i don't think i'd follow that one up i'm like you can't you you're better just to not say anything lexy lexy took the business position of she goes i'll go it's like oh no lex lexie don't stop saying things that are untrue is what she says to jesse he's like what are you mean and the sierra topic comes up and kyle gets thrown into the bus because he poorly worded it and it's so funny because you hear manda like kyle's don't do that and he's like i don't know like i'm bad i was just trying to help it's like every time you try to help you make it worse i appreciate you trying but

Hage jumps in and says, look, let me just be clear. Like, Jesse wasn't talking shit about you. He was actually just talking about how he was sad and needed a hug. And then Sierra brings up that she was mentioned. Lexi says the protective thing. I got protective because from what I've been hearing from him, he's been talking nothing but shit about you. And I don't trust you because of what Jesse has told me.

I'm like, okay, that's not horrible. And that also points to the problem once again is Jesse. Jesse looks dumbfounded, like, how is this my fault? It's like, because of the things you told her, it led her to have preconceived notions about Sierra. Now, back to the accountability thing. Do I think that it's Lexi's job to go and pursue some kind of friendship with Sierra, the people in the house, to get to know her on her own, especially knowing that Jesse lies to her frequently? Yes, so I don't think you can place all the blame on Jesse.

Did Jesse help? No, he made it much harder. But she had, I don't think it's fair. She had weeks to be friends in Sierra. She had weeks to get close to Amanda, to Paige, to Kyle, to everybody else in the house. And she just didn't. I like how I threw Kyle in with the girls, but he basically is at the point. And I love his position in the house right now.

But she had a long time. And all she did was focus on staying with Jesse. Everything that Jesse did, I had to do. We're texting all the time. We're seeing each other in the city. You can't be upset about not being friends with these women when you did it to yourself. like yeah yeah he isolated you at a point but you had a lot of freedom and this is the freedom dinner you had a lot of freedom in the beginning of the season to be friends of these people

before the season to get to know them and he didn't no so that's where like yeah jesse is the primary source of negativity here i think we'd all agree there but you have to take some accountability for your own actions in this whole thing because you didn't take it upon yourself to have relationships with these people which might have answered a lot of the questions that you currently have about who Sierra is as a person, what her intentions are. Maybe you would have heard from Amanda and Paige about how great she was. You would have had a different outlook other than trusting a guy that you met a month ago.

Who's lied to you the whole time? That doesn't make sense to me. So, you know, the bottom line, and we've said it from the jump, like these two never needed to date ever. No. In the history of dating, this was never going to work out. very funny TV though they made for a great season which again did not have to happen but let's get to some questions yeah how about some questions yeah right here from

christina teresa if jesse's a liar why is lexie so quick to believe anything he says about sierra we agree she should have taken it upon herself there yeah uh from mark maris cal we'll call California. Why is Lindsay still on about their breakup? So over it. Well, it was fucking hilarious, Mark. It was funny. It was funny. It can't. It just was from Meg's Valentine. Is Jesse being purposefully dense or does he really not understand his words and actions? This is the question for the age. That is the main question. Yeah. It's just fucking weird to watch because he doesn't put two and two together. How was that a lie? Uh, because he didn't tell the truth, bro. Like, that's pretty cut and dry to me.

I don't know. It's bizarre to watch. I think again, it goes back to our theory of he's never been called out for this behavior. Exactly. Doing it successfully for years. And now he's confused because he's like, wait, what? He kind of talks himself into this is normal.

This is fine. I'm not getting called out. So like it must be okay. Yeah. My behavior affects people. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Mad Wall pretty much said the same thing, but we can answer it a little differently. do we think Jesse is oblivious or genuinely just a manipulative fuck i think he manipulates somewhere in the middle but he is weirdly oblivious to a lot of it too it's but he's very manipulative yeah so that's yeah that's crazy yeah it's strange let's do two more r m lace says m rule has been edited out because they pay episodic fees so they don't have to pay him as much yeah probably i that guy got shafted it's a bummer yeah he really did it's gonna go he's opening up fucking schools for english in bangladesh and he got fucking shoehorned into

being the sex guy i think that's yeah uh last one here from stella lukeart do you think producers encouraged lexie to stay with him until the end or breakup uh i didn't get the production vibe from anything those two were doing uh yeah they're just genuinely insane yeah i i just think that it was a wacky you know love balmy two people one of whom has never been in a relationship doesn't know how to function in and the other one is a hopeless romantic that dives that first into things which is just a recipe for disaster as we watched yeah but weirdly enough and like the biggest testament to that

and like this being a successful season this is like the exact kind of storyline that would cause shooter to just motherfucker the whole season yeah like this is literally your kryptonite and for whatever reason it just somehow worked like this is a this is lightning in a bottle that this worked out and i'm glad it did but yeah so am i boy am i glad it was risky you know because this kind of shit can get old and that we had those moments along the way where it's like oh we're teetering and then they reel it back in the weird thing is you know what we haven't talked about in weeks page and craig i know i forgot bro we have to talk about it next week because we get the final

breakup scene we get the final breakup scene and then when they showed the scenes but from next week i'm like come on do we have to like just fucking leave it all i don't care anymore it's too little too late it's almost like like even this week i completely forgot that they even dated at this point same until page is like i'm in a functional relationship i was like oh yeah you're not but yeah you're not uh yeah so that's honestly the funny part and again the way that this season worked out the main focus like 80% of the season was jesse and lexie and it didn't really get on my nerves, I think because it was so outlandish and there were so many things to laugh at, that's why it was okay.

I don't know. I think if they were a little more serious, like last year and Sierra and West didn't really take up a lot of the spotlight. It was weird, but it didn't bother me that much because Carl and Lizzie were breaking up. So that was kind of funny. So like as long as there's, as long as there's a breakup and it's not too serious or too annoying, I'm good. If it's just funny because I don't really care what these people do and it's insane to me,

I'm going to laugh at it the whole time. So they found the sweet spot. I think it's because not one person on earth was invested in these two. Like, no one gave a shit whether or not they were successful in this thing because it was so ridiculous from the jump that it was almost like guilt-free watching. Like, if this doesn't pan out, who gives a fuck? They shouldn't be together anyway. And yeah, watching the fallout and discussing it analytically has actually been a treat just to like break it all down. but sure has we got the finale next week and then we imagine a two-parter it makes

sense for a two-parter here and that's usually the go-to with these kinds of shows but uh yeah i'm i'm excited for next week i don't care about page and craig scene i don't i really don't i rest i'm excited to put it to bed let's put it that one okay fine i'll look at it that way i'm excited to watch because we don't usually get those like the sad after breakup conversation that's awkward and uncomfortable we get to watch that with Jesse and Lexi at the party next episode. And those are great because it's like I shouldn't

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