Bros & Shows - Sam M. Keeps the Main Thing the Main Thing... Again... (Bachelorette Full Recap)

Episode Date: August 15, 2024

Will you accept this Brose? We are back with the bachelorette and the season is starting to wind down. In this episode, Marcus secures his second 1 on 1 date and seems to build more of an emotional connection with Jenn. But will it be enough? Jeremy finally gets his chance at a 1 on 1 date and in a make or break moment for him, he secures a rose. Sam M. Takes center stage this episode and he crashes and burns in monumental fashion. During a group date he shows that he has the emotional depth of a puddle as he can’t answer the most simple questions from Jenn. This same conversation occurs a total of THREE TIMES this episode and each time he makes the conversation about himself and gives the strangest non answers. It gives Jenn zero confidence in their relationship. With hometowns coming next week this is a big episode for the contestants. Three men go down and one of them has secured his spot as the Bachelor in the upcoming season… Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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As there's a drive in a deep left field by Castellanos, it will be a... Oh man, it's 8 o'clock. And so that'll make it a... I don't need the spotlight. I shine just fine. Hi, I'm Karma. And yes, I am a bitch. Brov bros.

Shooter. Will you accept this bros? It's very selfless of you. Do you see me? Am I seen? I feel seen. You need to see me, and I'm just going to come right out and say it. Okay, it's a different kind of intro, but I'm here to keep the main thing, the main thing.

God, I'm so happy we got one last main thing, the main thing. We got a few main thing. I know, but like one last one. Yeah, oh, very, very forced. After I keep ten toes down, but he came up with every single cliche saying that you can. But hey, what an intro. Welcome back to Brav Bros. O-S-E. We are recapping the Bachelorette today. And holy shit, what an episode. Yeah, that was

heart pounding. It was thrilling. exhilarating. I didn't know what was going to happen at the end. I had a feeling. You know where I've gotten to, by the way? Where have you gotten to Seattle? Yeah, I don't know. The traveling roses. At this point, I'm starting to see things on Twitter where people are talking about like next season and there's conspiracy theories about the Bachelorette. There's something that I'm going to read a little bit later, where Sam M's father is backing him up. What? Something on Facebook, apparently, which is hilarious. It's Facebook. What do you mean? Yeah. We'll get there. Okay. I'm excited for that. We'll get there. But I am deep in the trenches now with The Bachelorette. I find it very funny. And I didn't know

what the hell was going to happen because before the show aired on Monday night, there were rumors swirling that somebody like Jonathan could be the next bachelor. Oh, no. The news dropped. You didn't see? I don't know if it's actually news. Oh, no. I can drop it. Do you want me to drop it for you? Do you know who The Bachelor is? Who? Grant.

Grant is the Bachelor. Ah, that makes sense. Which makes a lot of sense. And you know what? After I saw that, because that came out prior, I was like, oh, well, Grant's probably getting the boot tonight. So that was, that came out after. So I saw that it was Jonathan.

No. I'm a different account. Grant. Okay. So that's confirmed. Confirmed Grant because after it aired, they confirmed it. But I watched it today. Okay.

So I knew going into it. I was like, oh, no, Grant gets whack. Okay. Yeah. I saw the Jonathan thing on, Sunday, so I was really confused at the end of it when he got a rose. Yeah, no, Grant is the Bachelor. And by the way, you don't get any points for that, by the way, having him on your team.

No, I know. I should get, like... But I'm just getting ahead of it. I think I, you know what I get? Like, the coaches award. Like, you don't... Sick, dude. Yeah, I know.

It's not great. It's not great. But I'll take the coaches award. It's a step up from participation. Right. It's just a slight step up because... We're going to recognize that you did something. Yeah, you're a big part of the team.

Yeah. Not on the field, but you're a big part of this team. Yeah. You get the Rudy Award. Yeah. Oh, yeah, there you go. It's the Rood, the Hustle Award. That's what it was.

Yeah, I'll take that. Yep. I'll take that. But, hey, we are back to talk Bachelorette, as I was saying. This is just, it's such a funny show. And from what I've heard, this is like a down season. This is not one of the better ones. So I'm actually really excited.

It's so fast. It's so quick, which is great. How many episodes is this shit? For some reason, I thought it was like 20 episodes long. I really thought that this was a really long show. No, they knock people out really fast. Yeah, there's like four left. Yeah.

Oh, that's it? Yeah. For people. For people. Yeah, yeah. I think there's two or three left. That's crazy. Isn't that wild?

But I'm glad that we ventured into Bachelor Nation. We're going to keep going, even if you don't listen, because we fucking love this. Yeah, it's so easy to break down and it's so funny. And it's one of those shows that I genuinely enjoy, one, watching, because it's such an easy watch, especially when we're doing this. It's incredibly easy to break down because we have a lot of fun with it. We don't have to get crazy in depth. It's almost like a little break. It's a little reset.

It's a little recess. That's exactly what it. It's recess for the bros. And look, things have been tense around here lately, all right? We've been on Twitter. We've been on socials way more than we have over the past like six months. I've been trying to get back on my real game, my TikTok game. It's been going very well. But with that comes a lot of stress intention, especially with Jersey. So this is much needed during our time of stress because it helps us relax a little bit. And this episode was a world. wind and again i think that there is definitely way more that this type of show a bachelor or a bachelor i could offer i don't feel like we're getting everything out of this season that we could be so i'm really excited to see grant i think grant is a phenomenal pig for the bachelor he's a very handsome fella well-rounded he's uh what is he uh day trader he's got a good job uh what else he's he's sweet he fell in love and got his heartbroken so it all makes sense to me this all makes a lot of sense now. Yes. It's all coming together. Just kind of comparing his send-off to Spencer's was...

I can't wait to talk about poor Spencer. I feel so bad for Spencer. They did him dirty with the phone call with his mom. Why did you get to drop it already? I know. Why? These people have seen it. Why? Spencer, you're just... You're not going to... No, I'm okay with him calling his mom, but did the producers need to edit it in? That's what I mean. Everybody else celebrating and he's on the phone with his mom crying? I don't think they need... I think that you're well within your right. to call your mom in a moment like that. Absolutely. You know what you don't want to happen? Have that on camera. That was a tough look for our boy, Spence.

Can we take it in the car? I don't know. But yeah, I thought that that was doing him a little dirty. I don't think you had to show that. I don't have an issue with it. If you need to call your mom and get a little emotional because you just feel like got your heartbroken, by all means, do what you got to do, I thought producers could have left that one out. But, I agree. Flipside, that may score some points in future dates where it's like, hey, I'm, this. This is me. That's true. And that's the one thing.

Look, this was the emphasis of the episode. Oh, was it? Jesus. We actually came up with, we came up with something last night when we were talking to Matt Rogers about New Jersey. We came up with, randomly, an idea for a show called Trauma Bond. Yeah, trauma bond. It actually exists. It's called The Bachelorette.

This was Trauma Bond. Every time. And it's so, you could just anticipate it. Every one-on-one, will I be able to trauma? It's not even will I be able to be emotional with this person. Can we trauma bond? Can I trauma dump on you and will you accept it? It's pretty much what it is.

I do have to give props to Marcus and I'll save it until we get there. But let's jump in because we're going to keep doing this until the whole episode's been discussed. But we're in Seattle, which is the Emerald City because it stays green all year around. It's also raining all year round. It sure is. But hey, we love Seattle because we know a lot of you. It showed up in Seattle, by the way. I mean, maybe I haven't been paying attention to like where they're going next.

Oh, yeah, we just popped up. It was like, yeah, we're in New Zealand. Just kidding, we're in Seattle. I was confused, too. I was very confused. It makes sense. It's a West Coast town, so it's easy to get to New Zealand, I suppose. Easier.

But, yeah, I was confused as well. It's like, surprise, Seattle. And shout out, we know we got a lot of listeners in Seattle, so shout out to you beautiful people out there. But, yeah, we are leading up to hometowns week. This is like the big one. This is where Jen goes back and meets the family, the friends, and everybody involved in their life.

So this is kind of the milestone that you need to hit to become a serious contender. Yeah. So we're leading up to that. So tensions are high. That's the point. Tensions are high going into. Tensions are high. They couldn't be higher.

Could not be higher. But she meets with a former bachelorette contestant, charity. Yep. So she meets with her. And the funniest part, and I thought this was foreshadowing for the whole episode, is she says, Sam reminds me of my exes. And I was like, well, there's your answer right there. Like, this is why you're attracted to him.

This is why you're falling for them. It's just annoying to us because we've pointed it out time and time again. You just want to bang them. You just want to fuck. And that's okay. That's great. Good for you. But stop telling us that you guys have this crazy connection.

It's not there. You just want to bang. The conversations that you had with Sam today on this show were the same conversations you've been having. This is nothing new or crazy. And she's like, there's more depth there. It's like, based on what? this man has the emotional depth of a puddle. He can't give you shit other than ferocious love.

I can't do it. I got to save it for when we get to that scene. I don't want to blow it. But I don't understand what she thought was there. And then, you know, the question that Charity asked was like, you know, who do you see yourself with? What's some of the pitfalls? And her big issue was like, you know, I just feel like I haven't gotten deep enough with so-and-so and so-and-so. And so-and-so is everybody.

Yeah. Literally everyone that's made it to this round, you're like, I just don't know if we can, have that emotional connection. It's like, well, what have you been doing? What's the point of this show? I'm, I'm confused as to what the dates have been. Poor Jeremy hasn't had a one-on-one yet. Well, is it poor Jeremy, though? Because I feel like it's way better. You get to have a one-on-one at the very end. And didn't she already have one with Grant? She had one with Grant, she had one with Grant. So Grant- Was the horseback beach ride. Okay, yeah. So Grant being upset that they didn't do a one-on-one, like he wanted the one-on-one, but like you already had one. And

Marcus is the only one who's gotten multiple one-on-ones. Two. Yes. He's had two. Everybody else only had one. Grant was upset because he was like, I feel this connection. He fell in love on that date and made it clear to her. Did he know at this point that they already like tap them? Did they tap them?

No, I think that once, I think that, oh, that's an interesting premise. Did the producers go to Jen and say, hey, he's our guy? Yeah. We need to get rid of him this week. Maybe. Maybe. I think so. Definitely.

We've been in Bravo long enough. That's what happened. A thousand percent is a very handsome dude. Now I'm thinking back on the moments that happens throughout the episode. And it seemed weird that he was pissed that he didn't get a one-on-one when he's already had one and Jeremy hadn't. Because that's a death sentence if Jeremy doesn't have one. Oh, absolutely.

So Jeremy can immediately just say, okay, well, I'm out. Yeah. He didn't want to say that in the interview beforehand. But he knows if you don't get a one-on-one, and we saw it with Austin last week. Austin knew he didn't get the one-on-one. He tapped out before he had a chance for you get a one-on-one. No. Austin didn't get the one-on-one before then.

That was towards the end of the episode. That was after the group date. I understand that. But my point is... You think he would have gotten to this week? Jeremy got to this week without a one-on-one. Yeah, but she was still okay with Jeremy. She didn't really have anything with Austin.

Oh, you cannot... Austin was too busy playing the fucking games. You can't speculate. He's trying to win. That's fine. Worrying about Jen. He was playing the game too much. Yes, but you can't speculate on whether or not he would have made it because he was

in the same boat as Jeremy. I mean, yeah, you can. That's what we do here. But my whole whole point... point is, I don't know. I think that Jeremy showed that you don't need a one-on-one until the end to make it through. So, Austin,

I'm saying, wasn't a guarantee to go home. There was still at least a chance or a... Well, Jeremy and Austin were on the same date with the box car racing. And Jeremy... Jeremy was smart. And Jeremy's the one who stopped and made out with her and had a good time and lost on purpose. Yeah, lost in one. Austin just tried to get the best time, and he got the best time.

I said, tried to be the best. You said, Austin won. You said, yeah, he lost in one. Both true. Lost in one. Jeremy lost in one. I said lost in one. Oh. I didn't say lost in one.

But that worked. It worked out really well. How about that? We love that. We've got to love when that happens. It's just us having a silly, goofy time. What are we doing? There's a silly geese in here.

But these are my favorite scenes, and they will continue to be my favorite scenes. We get the bros walking into the hotel and acting like it's a fucking five star like Ritz Carlton. It is a shitty, what is this one? Is this got to be another, like a Marriott or like a Marriott or like a D. double tree or a courtyard. It's a residence in. Bro, they went into this room that is like retro styled, I guess. It looks cheap as hell. And they're like, bro, dude. Those are great. Digging the vibe. I have a new favorite. And it's when they go to a new city. And it's all the guys walking and they do like the entourage walk. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Where it's the beginning of entourage

on HBO. And they're all pointing like in different directions. And it's like, what do you do it? I don't know. Who does that? Nobody does that in the city unless there's like, I mean, I know Seattle has the space needle. Yeah. So it's like, okay, yeah, let me check that out. It's not like you're pointing at the gumwall. You don't even know where it is. Fish market, somewhere over that direction.

What do you point in that? Mariner Stadium. Oh, yeah, cool. Yeah, I don't know. Was it? Still called Safeco. No, no, no, it's something different. Always going to be Safeco Field to me.

Yeah. I used to think it was Safako. Sefeiko. Sefico. Safeco. But Marcus gets the one-on-one date. This is big. This is a second time one-on-one date, as we've seen

throughout this whole show, their connection has seemingly been the strongest. But as she has said multiple times, I should have kept a fucking counter. I didn't know it was going to keep happening. She needs to be seen by these men. Yep. She says it at length. It is

exhausting. At the end, I kept writing, seen, seen, seen. But he gets a little Letterman jacket, and I have a question for you. Because when he pulled it out of the box, I was like, are Letterman jackets back? Do I need to get a Letterman jacket? No. You don't think? Letterman jacket, some white... Letterman jacket?

some like some white lighter blue jeans i don't think so you don't think with a good hat combo i think it works i don't know it's maybe a plain one that doesn't have anything written on it oh nothing just the pattern yes maybe yes nothing on it i can see that just like basically what he had there it's a risk surprise that it didn't say bachelorette 24 on it but jen jen jen jen's husband team jen no shout out sam n sam n yeah jen's husband god no no that guy hopefully he's far far I don't know. He's around, by the way, he's somewhere. Oh, my God.

What if he pops up in Seattle? Just like, you just seeming. Wouldn't be surprised. Everybody that's watching along with us, keep your eye on the background and see if you see Sam N. Yeah. He's out there somewhere. People look out for a leather jacket or a leather, leather jacket.

Denim, according to him. Denim, yeah. A denim leather. Yeah. A leather jacket. Dether. Jen and Marcus take their one-on-one, and this was fucking hysterical. This is just a 10-minute long commercial for Wicked the movie.

Yes, it is. That was so fucking fun. Shout out ABC, product placement is unmatched. Not even kind of glossed over. It's like, even the way that Jesse Palmer gets out of the trolley car, he's like, coming soon, Thanksgiving, it's Wicked the Movie. You guys get to have a wicked day. Hop on this trolley and head to your wicked time.

Shameless. I loved it. I actually appreciate. Just fucking lean into it. Yeah, who cares. They go on this yellow brick road date, which was fine. I kind of liked it because it made them choose decisions together. And it forced him to open up a little bit because that's been his biggest struggle is opening up.

We got the first trauma dump from him, which was recapping or recanting his recounting his time in the military with the grenade and the incident that happened there, which was obviously extremely emotional and very powerful. So we appreciated that. But he hasn't been able to tap into like the emotional side of Marcus. Like how does Marcus tick? I need to see you, Marcus, is what. Jen saying to Marcus, and they do that by opening up presents. We're going to go along this path together. Okay.

Okay. So spicy or sweet? I'm going spicy. Ah, see, we're not compatible. We're not working. Where are we? Well, we are because it's like opposites attract kind of deal. All right.

What's the next one? I don't remember what the next one was. Scream or silent? Scream or whisper? Scream? I'm whispering. Yeah. Oh, wow.

Yeah, see, we wouldn't do well in this one. I remember the last one slow and fast. Slow and fast. There's one in between there, though, the third one. I'm fast. You strike me as a slow one. No, I'm fast, yeah. Are you?

Okay, so we meet there. And we've got some differences to work on, but that's, you know, some relationship. Yeah, that's just a relationship. No, we definitely do, yeah. But at the end, you know, they get met by two former, those are bachelor contestants. Bachelor at contestants, or Bachelor contestants.

Those were bachelor contestants. They were friends that Jen had made. Correct. On Joey's season. Right. the funniest part of this whole like yellow brick road before they get to um you know the hot air balloon or whatever the hell that was the balloon wall not the balloon wall the minute where they do the scream yeah scream your feelings i like jen doesn't land very well no i thought that you could

have said something else said a lot of things i like jen doesn't really hit me here you know what i I mean, it's like, yeah, that's nice. That's nice, Marcus, but you could have taken a chance to, you know, shout out Wicked, coming to theaters in November. Gravity. That's one of the songs. I had to sing that in high school choir. Oh.

Gravity was, yeah, Mr. Weir. Shout out Mr. Weir. How about that? Maybe he's a listener. Who knows? Maybe. But before we get to the hot air balloon, I do have to note the scene, I cannot imagine, jumping on top of somebody, making out on a pile of pillows.

Did you see the camera panning around? All the people were walking around. 150 people were circled, staring at these two make out, like have a quote-unquote spontaneous romantic moment. Like, no, no. Those are the scenes like an outdoor mall, too. That's exactly what that was. It's a, what do you call it?

A plaza. Plaza, yeah. Where the fuck are we going? Let's keep moving. We do get the wall and, you know, the letter from Jen's mom, and you get the video from Marcus's sister, which, again, foreshadowing for what he's about to do in a little bit.

But I thought that that would have been the perfect moment to just be vulnerable there. Like, she's already crying because of her mom's letter. Like, you're kind of crying. I thought about it, but you know that you're still going to have the date at night, and that seems to be when people are, like, you're just having fun during the day. And then you wait for the trauma dump later. Yeah. That seems what everybody's doing.

Is that the itinerary? I think so. Trauma dump eight. I don't know who decided this, but everybody's done it so far. That's, yeah. That's a good point. It's like, you're doing activities. I've got to have fun.

do the activities and then when we're alone sitting at a table we can trauma dump i've got a counter to the whole trauma dump thing that i'm curious what you think but i do need to point this ox the bros are all sitting around in the room we get the one-on-one date versus the group date they get the cards and all that jeremy is 29 yeah i thought he was older than me i did too yeah i thought he was at least 39 yeah no shy he's a handsome dude i just did not think he was that young yeah is that one of the have you seen the trend that's going around that the general below us is looking older than we are because of their life being more stressful. It's like,

if you follow Jordan the stallion on. We just, yeah, I do. Yeah, he talks about, he's 26. He's 26. Case in point. All right, there you go. There you go.

That's what I'm talking about. He talks about it something. We just handle the trauma better. We've been through so much trauma. Yeah, we just handle it better. Yeah, the 90s kids stand up because Jesus Christ, what a life we've lived, lived and loved. Loved and loved. Let's keep on moving.

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Come on, guys. That's not romantic. I played professionally baseball. It reminded me of Mr. Deeds going to the garden. Yeah, but again, it's like, And no shade to anybody listening,

if this is how you were proposed to or how you did propose. But it gives the go to a sporting event and propose in the Jumbotron kind of vibe to me. Yeah. Which is not my first choice. Again, if that's your vibe and that's what you and your fiancé or wife or husband,

that's what you guys do, no shade at all. Love it. That's beautiful. I personally don't love it. Fair? I'm just saying, No, it's fine, yeah.

Look at the venues we've gotten. We've gotten a fucking gorgeous library. with candles and shit. That's true. You had in New Zealand. Say more about Seattle. Do it on the Space Needle or with the Space Needle. Well, what the fucking Mariners are?

Jeremy and her had lunch on the Space Needle. But there you go. That was the other date. I'm saying for this date, I think they just ran out of places. I would rather you go to the Seahawks Stadium, honestly. Who care? I just don't go to a sports field. Then why would they go to the Seahawks Stadium?

That's what I'm saying. I'm retracting. Okay. I'm recanting. Recanting. now I'm recanting, but Marcus finally opens up. And here's what I appreciate about Marcus, okay? And this specific trauma dump, he didn't really want to do this.

He was clumsily kind of going through it. He definitely was, like, legitimately emotional and talks about an extremely difficult thing to discuss. This was nuts, dude. This guy's life is insane. You need, if this man is this put together after his parents dumped him and his sister at a daycare and left them forever, then he went on to join the Army fucking Rangers got blown up by a grenade, survived, saved his comrades, and he's still

this put together, I want to marry this fucking guy. Like, this is the kind of guy you want to go with with. You seem like the most authentic out of everybody. We can agree that, yeah, there's some people where somebody like Devin, you know that that's his personality, but maybe there's other things that, you know, they're acting a bit. They're trying to play it up a bit because you only get so much time. It seems like Marcus is just there like, oh, yeah, we're going on a date.

I'm just going to be me. exactly me. Yeah. I'm a nice guy. Been through a lot of shit. And I'm going to tell you about that shit. That's it. There you go.

It's a beautiful thing. I love Marcus. Yeah. No. But this is the thing. You didn't hear me. What? I'm in love with Marcus.

Well, you said you love Marcus the first time. I did hear you. Now you're in love with him. Yes. Okay. Eddie. Did you just wipe a tear away from your eyes? No, I know what the fuck?

My nose is going on over here. My nose is like a coffee. No, but the thing that drives me, not, it doesn't drive me crazy because who the Bachelorette. The fact that she still has feelings about her connection with Sam M. I do. You've got guys like Marcus there. It doesn't make any sense. Yes, it does.

Well, I mean, yeah, it does. She wants that hot D from Sam. Yeah. That's all it is. Like, she's like literally is blinded. And look, I think that that's the perfect example of things that can happen in relationships or pursuing relationships. You get blinded by hotness.

You just want to fuck and you can't think of anything else. You're like, there's God. But she is literally at the end of this episode while running around the hotel scratching and clawing for any reason to keep this dude around. Yeah, seriously. Because she just wants a chance to get to the conjugal visits or whatever they're called. Fantasy sweets. That's what it's called. They brought it up tonight, so we know what it is, yeah.

It's conjugal visits here. Congregal visits are way better. That's way funny. Togical visits would probably be what Sam would be doing now because he's not even on the show anymore. Oh, yeah. We're going to bring him back for a conjugal visit. He might be, honestly. But that's my thing.

What are you waiting for? Just bang them and see how you feel afterwards. Is there a rule? Are you not allowed to boink until, like, a certain point? I don't know how that would work. Aren't they all staying at the same hotel? They have. She has her own room.

Yeah. Sneak out. That's what I was saying. Yeah. I think that, you know, that's one of those situations, Jen, where it's like, all right, just go hook up and see how you feel in the morning. Yeah. If it's still there, go for it.

If you, I bet you if they had sex, you'd be like immediately after, like, oh, oh, this will not work. Yeah. Like, great sex, but I got to go. It kind of tarnishes the whole thing, though. Does it? I don't want them to be able to, yeah. Oh, you want to keep it clean.

Play a clean game. Until conjugal visits are official. All right, that's fair. But, you know, they smooch. He gets the rose and you get the home run fireworks, which aren't even real fireworks. It's like the little red flares that shoot out of the scoreboard. Again, tacky, in my opinion.

But hey, teach their own. You hate the Mariners. I don't. My dad manages their AAA team. Yeah. Shout out there. There you go. Family business baseball.

But hey, we keep trucking, and you get Jason and Molly, who are from the OG Bachelor. like way, way back, and they had a radio show group date back in the day, so they're trying to recreate this thing. And holy shit, I was not ready for this scene. This is my favorite scene of the entire season. This was our Super Bowl, because this is what we've been wanting to just put him through the ringer, like make him answer questions. He thought that this was a good thing.

That was the best part. Everybody was like, you could tell that somebody like Spencer, Spencer and Grant were walking out, and they're like, I don't really, I don't know. And then Jonathan and Devin were like, dude, no, like they're putting him through the ringer. Yes. They are putting him here because she needs. It's not a, this isn't a gift. This isn't a present because he's been doing well. No.

This is a, no, we need to put him on the spot. We need to light a fire under his ass to see what he actually says. Yep. And this guy only has like a 50 word vocabulary. That's it. He just keeps recycling and recycling and it's crazy. And half of them are just main thing, main thing. Dude, he, when it gets to him before, when everyone's still in the room, they're doing the lightning round.

and they go to Sam, and he does say main thing, the main thing before this, okay? And they did set him up, of course, immediately with the fantasy suite one. And everybody else was like, bro, his response was insane. Aggressive. Yeah. The fuck do you mean, bro? That's gross. Like, it's aggressive that you're asking me that?

No, it means that when he gets to the fantasy suite, that shit going to be aggressive. Yeah, that's what he meant. Yeah, we getting aggressive in that, in that conjugal. Even part of me was like, I really hope that's not what you mean. That's what he meant. 100%. Yeah, that's definitely what it means. Yeah.

No, which is, again, gross. Keep it clean. But they... Keep the clean thing, the clean thing. Keep the clean thing. But when they ask him, like, what do you think of Jen? So easy to answer. Even if you are full of shit and a liar like Sam M is, it's such an easy thing to respond with.

What do you like about Jen? I like her passion. I like how she cares for others. I like that she is sentimental, that she has a good relationship. with her family. I just made those up. Yep. Okay?

I don't know her. I haven't really paid attention that much when she's talking about her family and stuff. I'm paying attention to the game. Would you answer that question with talking about yourself? Uh, no.

The last thing I would do is say, fire, strong passion, falling in love. My love is reckless. I wrote this down just to make sure. Of course. He's saying nothing. Absolutely nothing.

Literally nothing. This was also, by the way, Devin's Super Bowl. Oh, yeah. Sitting back there. The fact that him and, and you can see, Jonathan's finally on board. It took these guys, aside from Devon, so long to understand

what was going on. Sam? And looking at Sam. Yeah. Like, how did it take you guys that? I know you're playing your own games and you're just trying to do your own thing like Grant, but you have to look at this guy and be like, all right, this is a problem. He needs to go because he's very one-dimensional. Jen is enamored by him because he just wants to bang him. We need to make sure that he is, there's a spotlight on him, because he's going to crumble. That's the funniest thing. But You know what? At the end of the day, he's the cool guy. Yeah.

He's the cool guy. So, of course, they're going to gravitate towards him, but that's the funny thing. You could have knocked him out a while ago if you put the pressure on. Make him go talk to her. Instead of trying to jump in, they're like, Sam, why don't you take this one? Go tell her how you feel, pal. Love, ferocious passion. I love, love.

He just repeats what she said in the beginning, which is the best. The ferocious love thing is so funny. When you said ferocious love, it just, you know, it just. I wanted that, too. I needed that. That's what I mean by love. It's like she didn't come up with that. The producers wrote that for her.

That's the theme of the season. Ferocious love. Ferocious love. You're just repeating it. He's repeating it. And it's like he watched every rom-com that you can on Netflix before coming and just memorized one-liners from it. That's honestly what I get from it.

And Jen's confused and they give everyone else the boot. This is that moment. But he only watched the first half of the rom-com where the guy in it is still a douchebag. Yes. And he never has that realization. that clicks him over, yeah. He didn't get to that point. No, you're right.

You're right. But you get Sam and Jen paired off because, and again, you're right, Spencer didn't listen because he's way too emotional. He needs to rain it in just a little bit. I appreciate being an emotional guy. I really do. You know I do. But just keep it together a little bit, my guy, a little bit.

Grant, as always, cool as a cucumber, little bummed out, but like, all right, whatever, we're going to go out here and just kind of hang. I'm with you. If I'm in this scenario, walking out of our room, I'm like, fuck, yes. Like, let's just sit here. I get to watch this on the monitor and laugh. Yeah, Devin had a drink in his head.

I was like, hell yeah, Devin. Give me, for you, dude. Watch this guy fall and burn. This is going to be a disaster. And that's exactly what it was. They're sitting there and she goes, what's your first impression? And he says, I almost didn't come. You're not my type.

I thought that it was going to be Daisy or Maria. Yep. What are you doing? Like, literally, I wrote, what the fuck, Sam? This guy did homework. Not really. He did homework on who he thought was hot and attracted to, and instead of just sitting, all you have to do, she literally asked you a point blank, what was your first impression of me? You could say a million things. This guy says, you're stunning. That fades. I know that fades, aka one day I'm not going to be attracted to you, but I'm trusting the process. I'm on this journey. I believe in the journey of the process and keeping the main thing the main thing. You got to trust that process. Trust that process because, look, at the end of the day. I said trust that process.

You could see Devin and Jonathan were like, what does he say? He's just saying a lot of words, but he's not actually saying anything. Zero. And she literally says, what about me? And I love Jen in this moment because he goes,

your selflessness. She goes, how do you know I'm selfless? I'm like, fuck yeah. Yeah. Like put him to the grinder here. And she said, he found a new word.

He fucking says, you're either selfless or you're full of shit. Yeah. He does. He is so lacking in emotional depth. That when you put him on the spot, he panics and insults you. Because he doesn't know what else to do.

He's got two moves. He can either try to woo you to bang you or he can insult you because he panics because he's insecure about himself. Yep. And you know what? I have a little sympathy for him. Why?

Because this guy clearly has no idea how to dig into his emotions. All right. Whatsoever? Who cares? I do. Why? Because it's important for men to be able

to express themselves emotionally. Sure. He has no idea how to do that. He hasn't been taught. He hasn't been taught. He has been taught. He's ruining Jalen Hertz's thing. That's true.

You know what? No, fuck him. You're right. Yeah. But he keeps going. He says, after night one, that connection was hot. We're past the sex. You need to recognize that, Sam.

You're past that moment. I think it was his last card to play. It definitely was. Like, if I just keep pushing on the sex thing, maybe that'll get me. That'll crack. He tells it you kept me in a closet. What? That's when it flashes over to Devon.

was what the fuck is this guy saying like what's going on and he says because she asks again and i had to recap this like word for word because it was just baffling and then we can break it down a little more but she goes do you really know me he goes you know that my my love language is physical touch and like and just grabs her and kisses her and that's where i wrote down this dude just watched too many rom-coms that's not a real move yeah in real life like that and this is also somewhat of a fantasy life because you're living in this bachelorette realm right now that's still not the move. She is very uncomfortable and questioning your relationship and you just grabbed it.

It's not like you said something that was thought provoking where she's taking a step to be like, oh, shit, like what did he say? And then you grab and kiss? You just answered all of her questions with selfish responses about yourself and this bullshit journey that you're trusting the process and keeping the main thing the main thing on and didn't answer one thing that she asked you. And they're not difficult questions, Sam. I know you're not the brightest guy in the world. I'm not going to fault you there. You're an idiot. That's okay. But just answer one of the questions. Don't say a bunch of bullshit nonsense. You can tell that she's like racking her brain to try to come up with a reason to keep you around. And your response to that is, and you're in a tongue kisser? Like, what the fuck are we doing here? Honestly. I love that it was a setup. Honestly, I'm happy that it took this long to get here because it kept going and kept going and we kept asking for it. And we knew that it was going eventually. This was the perfect way to have it happen.

Oh, totally. Everybody was in on it. Everybody knew what was going on. Except for Spencer. Poor Spencer. You couldn't hear a word of it. He's crying. Poor Jonathan that had to cover up the screen while they were kissing.

Oh, no, I can't watch her kiss anybody. Come on, dude. Relax. But I love that they set him up entirely. Everybody knew this whole episode was, here's a past bachelorette. She's going to tell you, don't go with that guy who just makes you hot. Okay, great. The next two bachelorets, don't go with the guy that has no emotional depth.

The next set, we're going to put him on a radio show and we're going to ask him all the tough questions. And we're going to get it out. We're just going to put him on the spot one-on-one in front of everybody else. He's not going to be able to do the one-on-one thing where you just wooze you. It's going to be a massive meltdown and everybody's here to watch it. Perfect. You gave way too much credit about the difficulty of the questions. They did not ask.

They were really tough questions. They were the easiest questions ever. That's what I'm saying. He could have aced this easily. Anybody could have aced this easily. You can give the most generic response in that moment. Maybe not Sam. Sam N would have just kept saying,

I love you, and I'm a love virgin, so I know that it's real. Something bizarre like that. Who the fuck knows? But what I love about this, she's confused, she's racking her brain. She's not really confused. She's coming to terms with the fact that there's not more here.

And now she's scratching and clawing for a way to keep him around because the sexual attraction is that palpable. And I won't deny that. But that was the best part. That was their only play. That's all they had. And you could even feel it when they're in that radio. your one. The sexual tension's gone.

Like, it was not there anymore. So I was like, you lost your one ace in the hole here. She's still trying to figure out how to keep you, but it's just not going to work out. But I love that the other guys in the group take advantage of this moment. They go, all right, Grant, his one-on-one. I already chose you. I love you. I'm falling in love with you.

Like, keep dumping exactly how you feel. Get to Jonathan, my feeling skyrocketed. I didn't expect to feel this way. I'm so happy, blah. Go to Spencer. I feel seen by you. She says, I feel seen by you he sees me he gets me he understands me devon he goes in there so seen by you i get you you get me that there is no better way to capitalize off of the disaster that sam m is then to then just

i'm sorry to say it love bomb pretty much or have a set thing that you're going to do when you get the one-on-one with her where essentially you're answering all of the questions that sam m bailed Yes, exactly. Everything that he was bombing on over and over and over again, just have them in the back of your mind and just give your answer for all of them. That's all you had to do. It's the best way to intercept. The funniest is that she enters the room and goes,

I'm pretty confused because of something that occurred today. And then when it gets to Sam M, like about to go in his one-on-one, he's like, because Devin obviously is going to take advantage and, like, hammer this home and be like, I don't know, man. Get under his skin a little bit, yeah. You really think that that went, well, like, I think she might have been talking about. He goes, he goes, look, don't take this person. Yeah, don't, no offense. And the best part is Sam's response is like, that could have been about any of us.

It's like, dude, come on. You're not talking about me. I don't know. You guys better worry about yourselves. I'm good. Yo, that could have been about anybody in here. Right, guys? Where's my boys?

Where did Thomas N go? Oh, man. I'm on an island and I don't like it. But they get another one-on-one. I'm so glad that they kept doing this. Oh, yeah. Really hammer at home. Yeah.

We've been waiting for this. But do you understand? I bet you do. Like how gratifying it is to want this for the whole season. And they got it. Oh, yeah. But I'm not. It's for all it was worth.

I'm not used to that. I know. Because we watch Bravo where we want something to happen. And it's like, you get a teaser. Yeah, but do you think that this was more, all right, we know that everybody's going to hate watch this guy and realize what's going on? So we're going to keep sending Jen in there. And we're going to keep sending Sam in there.

And they're going to continue to have conversations. And we're really just going to push this as far as possible. possible? Or is it just that Jen really wants to bang him and keep him around? I think it's the perfect storm of both because she does want to keep him around. Yeah. But at the same time, they're like, dude, we can really, this will be a great episode. Yeah. Because we've been wanting to do that. All we have to do is ask him, it really was. But I don't get that a lot when I'm watching TV. Yeah, I know. So to have that, I was like, fuck yeah. And she starts asking him questions again. She's like, I don't have emotional support from you.

And he can't stop clearing his throat. He's sweating. So nervous. Because he can't think of words. He's like, I've run out of vocabulary. Well, selfless was a new one that he came up with today, and he used that a lot. He used that a bunch of times. And she's so clear cut. How do I, Jen, fit into this journey that you keep on talking about? All you're talking about is trusting the process, keeping the main thing, the main thing,

and following this so-called journey, that you're here for a reason. That's great. All you're talking about, Sam, is yourself. I think Sam was just convinced that he was going to do enough to become. the Bachelor. He wasn't really worried. I agree. That's so funny. I think that's why he had the catchphrases. That's why he had all the things and he was trying to be the cool guy. He was trying to be friends with the other guys like early on. He got distracted by Devin immediately because he got under his skin, threw him off his game. Not that he really had a whole lot of game to begin with, but it definitely threw him off of his game. And then he started to panic at the end. He's like, I'm not going to be able to come back if this is how they're going to treat me. He is 100% Bachelor in Paradise Material. Yeah. That's where he ends up. He needs to fine tool his game, though, because this is rough. It's tough to watch, honestly. I didn't feel bad for him.

I was so happy that this was all happening. But this is like a public service announcement out there to dudes and to ladies and to whomever out there that's going to date somebody like this. This is like the textbook of dudes like this. He is so stereotypically this fucking guy because his game doesn't work. He doesn't know what to do. So he panics. So his next move is, I love you. bruh come on come on there's no way you think she's going to be like oh my god really i've been

waiting for this from you you've been incapable of saying anything specific about her that you like how easy is that what do you like about me name literally anything other than selfless because she's going to follow it up how uh because our connections hot up top don't let me hang Wasn't he the feet guy from the first episode, too? Is he a feet guy? I think he was the feet guy, yeah. They had that one-on-one in the first episode. Oh, that's right.

Yeah, they were talking about her feet. They were talking about feet. That should have been a dead giveaway. Could have at least just set her feet in this moment. But that's my point. Like, you could literally even pick a physical trait at that point. Just say something. Smile.

That's not about you. Yeah. The journey or keeping the main thing. Very obvious answers that you could have gone with. Yep. Very happy that he didn't find any of those. Me too. And I'm glad that she didn't buy any of it.

And he goes back. back to the ferocious, reckless love, and she says there's no substance behind this. There's no logic here. I'm like, thank God. Jen went up 15 notches and I like Jen the whole time. Like, I've enjoyed her this season, but she went up tenfold after saying exactly what I'm thinking. Like, this is nonsense.

Yeah. This man is just spewing bullshit and she didn't buy any of it. There's no group date, Rose. And I wrote right here before we even get there, Sam just played himself out. He's done. He's done, so. And he's afraid the next day. but then we get what I've been waiting for

and this is my last remaining team member we go over the teams at the end of this I've been waiting for the Jeremy one-on-one and we get that and they go to the fish market and like the farmer's market and this whole thing the bouquet

smart kudos to you sir well done doesn't even hesitate hey can I make her one when she asked me come back there and I'll do it myself do you know what also is so good about this scene when she says what's inspiring you what's the easy answer you, no, that you get to meet my family

and I'm so excited. That's all, Sam, take fucking notes, bro. It's not that hard. Take a second. Think about it. Respond it. He didn't even go for the layup. He went for the deeper answer.

I was like, oh, this guy's here to play. That's what he's supposed to be doing on a one-on-one. You got to get deep. You got it. He had a good balance of, from this date to the nighttime date, of not just having fun. He was able to have fun the whole time, but throw in a couple of comments there. Throw in a couple of deep answers here and there and then keep it moving. Have a good time.

Be a little goofy because that's what she wants. And then do fun things because they do have all these things set up for you. Like, yeah, you don't have the official wicked trailer release. I think it's better that he did. It's way better, yeah. But you're able to just kind of wander around and just do your own thing. And you're like, yeah, this is just a fun day for me. I'm happy that you get to join.

Exactly. And they're having moments of like deeper connection, the bouquet, like little things. You don't have to be monumentally. deep in these moments. But it's just little one-offs where it's not just a silly, goofy time. And he was doing a really good job of that. Then they get to the palm reading. How did you feel about the palm reading?

She was pretty good. Wow, that was like the perfect setup. She, you martial arts, he's like, I did cry as a black belt. Wow. How'd you know that? On your bachelor profile. I see a drummer. I played the drums where I was going on.

Also on your bachelor profile, probably on her Instagram. The best part, because this had to have happened, because I was thinking about, the logistics of everything. It's like, you got to buy our flowers. I'm like, they definitely walked in with the bouquet. Unless they gave it to a producer. Like, you walked in with the flowers. And then she's like, you got to buy our flowers.

Yeah. And he's like, this is insane. This is absolutely insane. I love Jens for Marks, too, on top of that when he's talking about being a drummer growing up and being a black belt when he was younger. She's like, it's just so nice to like get to know him on a deeper level. And I'm like, what do you mean deeper? He plays.

He plays just karate in the garage. When he was 12, that's great. So deep. Tiger Shulman's Blackbilt. It's like she just kept hammering home. Like, this is his opportunity to get to me on a deeper level. And I got to make sure that there's actually an emotional connection. The first thing that he says in the palm reading is that he played drums.

And she's like, it's so nice to know him on a deeper level. So what? And did karate. And did karate. Hey. All right. Hey. That's fine.

But do you touch my drums up? They have a casual lunch, which I appreciated. They recap the night a little bit. Again, these are the last. Little Nuggets. This is great because he's like, how are you feeling? She goes, you know, I was confusing that. I was a little frustrated.

He's like, but do you feel better? She's like, I do. I was like, that's all, that's it. It's all you got to do. It's subtle. It's just enough to say, hey, I care about you. I'm thinking about you. There's just a comfortability here that I really liked.

So I was glad as I'm looking across the board because all I do when I'm watching this is think about my team. I'm like, oh, boy, my boys are not doing great. I can tell Grant is pining for attention. It's not going well. So that makes me a apprehensive. if Sam is crashing and burning, I needed Jeremy to step up, and boy, did he step up.

Oh, yeah. But here's my... This was, he was a full-on dark horse. I did not expect... Because we haven't seen her during any of these one-on-ones, not give a rose of the other. Correct. So I thought this is the perfect opportunity.

We haven't gotten anything from Jeremy. The only remarkable thing that he's done is in the stock car racing and when he pulled up in his car at the beginning. Otherwise, I haven't seen a whole lot from Jeremy at all. So I'm like, oh, this is a great opportunity to not give him a rose. keep it open, maybe still pick him at the end,

if he shows something a little bit later, keep us on the edge of our seats. No, he performed incredibly. He is the new Dark Horse. He, look, he was up against the wall. Yep. It was a make or break, and he did his job. He did very well, but.

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I need more emotion. And this is getting tired for me is that before every single fucking date, this is the preamble feeding into it. But regardless, I think we're done with that now. Well, I wrote down, is feigned emotion actually enough? or is it not better to have that connection? Because, again, they've known these people for what, a month, a little over a month? A couple weeks, maybe.

So isn't that initial strong connection much more beneficial to a conducive, healthy relationship than faking this emotional trauma dump or it's like, oh, I feel like I connected you on a deeper level. Don't you want that to come out organic? Well, yeah, for sure. And I also don't think that this was like Jeremy wasn't trauma dumping either. No, he didn't trauma. He was just talking about how much he loves his family, which was,

different. Everybody else was like, I come from a broken family. Yeah, he has a nice. And it like lined up with Jen because of where she is with her dad. And that makes a lot of sense. Jeremy was true. He's just like, yeah. He's like, this is what I want for the rest of my life. I want to have kids. I'm really close to my family. I want to raise my kids. You know, Jewish heritage is very important to me. So I want to make sure that I raise my kids that way. And he's open to other religions because Jen likes to do Buddhism. So there's a lot of things that go into it. This actually felt a lot more real. I agree. Where you're talking about, your future, your potential future together, and the ideals that will line up and won't line up. That's more important than, hey, I come from a broken home. Like, really sad about that. Kind of fucked me up for a little while, but I'm all right now. It's like, wow, I got to know you on a deep level. It's like, no, this is probably way better because you're planning things. And it's an emotional connection.

And you get to know who you're going to be with. Exactly. So I, that was my big question, though. I was like, is that fake trauma connection actually more beneficial than? I mean, are we asking like in the real world? I mean in Bachelor. I mean in Bachelor. Like, if you are the Bachelor of, I don't know. In Bachelor World, I feel like, yeah, it's the feigned emotion is probably going to get you, at least to like the home visits. I think that, yeah, I guess so. I guess game plays. You can ride that

train the whole time. I think that out of these guys who does it, like obviously, look, I'm not blaming Marcus because he's been through a lot of shit, but we don't know, like, how he feels currently. No, but I think he's just talking about his past. So that's kind of my point is that Because when he went into that date tonight, or this episode, even then it did not feel like a, like I'm trauma dumping on you. I just want to get out this sad story about my past. It felt like he was fighting to get everything out. That's my point because leading up until that moment, he has been somewhat shut off, but they do have a real connection. He's starting to chip away a little bit.

So isn't that a better connection in the long run? If you are truly looking for love to go that route rather than, hey, Jeremy. know someone I am this is our first date together after fucking four weeks sorry dude let me get you on an emotional level and then he trauma dumps aren't she's like oh now we're connected it's like nah and I agree with you he went about it a great way and like these are my ideals is what I stand for this is what I want yeah so yeah again make or break the dude stepped up thank god or I'd be without any players left in the game but she ends it with I feel seen and I feel heard seen and heard gets the rose well Jeremy nice job but two of the senses

Two of the senses that have been repeated ad nauseum this episode, but here we are. And we get to the Rose Day, Rose Ceremony Day, and she's running about the Double Tree, Seattle, looking for Sam. And she says, I owe it to myself to have this conversation. It's fucking ludicrous. Just go to his room right now and bang it out and see how you feel afterwards. I think that's the most logical approach here. like the sexual tension's blinding you. He's not the right guy for you, but go bang it out and move on.

That would have been so much more. Well, it's just more annoying because this goes all the way back to when they were in, not even when they were in New Zealand, when they were in Australia doing the strip tease, and she sat down with the other girl who was a bachelor's contestant, who said she picked the wrong person because she picked lost over love. And that's what it all started, and Jen started to question it then. So that's like, what, five episodes ago? Yes.

And we're still doing this shit? Yes. To get over it. Yeah. I mean, look, it gave us a good, I'm just talking about Jen's actions, like running through the hotel. Yes, agree. The fact that she's still like, I need to give this guy another chance because I thought

there was a strong connection. There was never a strong connection. You just wanted to bang. You can just say that. Like, she did already in so many words, but what do you expect to get more out of this conversation? You've had two. We get a lot out of this conversation.

You don't get a whole lot, though. It's so good because it's the same exact conversation, literally verbatim. He says the same exact things. I could watch this for two more hours. just him struggle through words. He literally doesn't have a lexicon. At some point, I'd probably have to fast forward through it. Which is fine, but get me to that point.

Because I still wasn't there yet. But she asks him, like, how you feeling? He's like, I'm terrified. Terrified. I've been trying to protect and walk this line of protecting my feelings and being vulnerable. You've done neither. The only way that I can let you know about my feelings is to be in love.

Yeah, what? What the fuck are you talking about? And she's like, did you actually mean to say whatever? He's like, yeah, I meant to say. She's like, what does that mean? This man gives her the Webster's dictionary definition of love and is taken aback when she's like, it feels disingenuous. I don't believe you.

What the fuck's going on, dude? You've been incapable of responding. Selfless love, which I don't even know what that is. Selfless love sounds like a beautiful premise. Could be. Not coming from him. Because what does it mean from you, Sam? It means absolutely nothing.

It means so funny. You can't form sentences to articulate how you're feeling. And I would argue, looking at your demeanor, are you feeling anything right now? Or are you scratching and clawing to stay on this show? All right. Are you ready for Sam's Dad? Oh, fuck, yeah. All right.

We've got to bring Sam's Dad in to talk about this. Let's get him on the line. No, Sam's Dad. We've got Sam's Dad on the line here. Yeah, just Sam's Dad. Going live from Facebook, of all places. Just get ready for this. Oh, good.

I choose my words wisely. That's never very good. I've sat idly by this week, watching my son, a complete wreck on how he was portrayed. Sam has, mostly, been the favorite with the first impression rose, et cetera. The spoiler was revealed, and, in my opinion, the network had to paint Sam as this horrendous guy in order for Jen to not look like a complete idiot. Now I know why the network offers free counseling for one year after the show. I feel this episode was all fabricated with cut and paste sentences and scenes. Nope.

Can't change what he said and how he said it, but they can change the scene, script, and context. script is a weird word in there and context and totally change the delivery that's the way i feel feel free to share this hashtag stand with sammm hashtag hashtag you got a hashtag hashtag stand with samm dude okay dad here's my robot dad he had three chances he did this thrice not once not twice but thrice and said the same shit there's no other way to paint the picture and you're talking to two bros here, Dad, that watch Bravo and understand how producers can fuck with shows. The three scenes that we saw, could they have messed with one? Certainly.

Yeah. All three? No, especially when he said, he literally said the same thing. He even said in this statement that he released, cut, copy, and paste. As if they were taking the audio and the scenes from each one and copying and past, no, your son was doing that. That was him talking. He was copying and pasting other things, and he's done it all season. Why are we surprised by this?

It was so funny, dude. When I read that, I'm like, this is incredible. I love this. I appreciate the dad, you know, rioting for his son. Of course, I'm not going to fault him there. He's standing up for his boy. I get it. But, dad, come on.

It's so funny. It was three scenes, man. And he never said anything different. All he had to do was answer her question. Yep. And there was not a cut scene in between multiple questions. It was a one shot. So no.

That's simply incorrect, sir. I do not hashtag stand with Sam M. I don't. I would rather hashtag stand with Sam N, and he's a fucking lunatic. You better be careful about that one. It would be entertaining. We should have Sam N on the show. Wait a minute.

Let's talk about it. Sam, let's talk about love. I'm not against him. Still a virgin. Are you still a love virgin? You still have the leather jacket. Can you wear it on our show? All right, let's get to the room.

Let's talk about it. Who's going home? She ends the conversation with, I need somebody that sees me. what do you see in me he fucking can't answer so she gives in the boot he's out of there see you later because i wanted him to stand there though i wanted him to have some emotion that wasn't just i wanted him to go to the road ceremony and have to stand there and physically not get selected well i think the like the best indicator of what this man was on this show jen was when

you say on our one-on-one date what did you learn about me he says powerful love and you're fierce. She's literally asking what have you learned about my life? By the way, he's now answering the rapid fire questions. Yes. A day later. A day? Oh, you think it just takes a lot of click. Okay. It took a second. So tomorrow, he'll have a full list.

He'll have an actual answer to that, but he'll still be answering yesterday's question. But she was literally asking, what do you know about me? And all you have to say to that is, I know you're very close with your mom. I know your dad left when you were young. I know that really hurt you. He might not know that. Maybe he wasn't listening. He was looking at her feet. Clearly, he wasn't listening.

that's the point like whatever she gives him the boot he's fucking out of there and his response is like yeah honestly man like her energy was the energy she brought was dull and it is what it is i keep my 10 toes down i'm gonna keep the main thing the main thing this was him lobbying for the bachelor yep that was his last ditch effort i do think there's a spot from a bachelor in paradise i'll happily watch him on that yeah that would be a really fun time but we get to the rose ceremony and nothing crazy happens here Except I lose two of my guys, Grant, which again, in retrospect, you know, we are somewhat seasoned in the reality TV world now. That was probably a plant.

Yeah, that was definitely a plant. It was very apparent, again, looking back now, because I didn't know that before I watched, she walked him out. Yeah. There was a whole exchange with her walking him out and then him standing there. He got a full interview talking about it. Then she goes back in and Spencer's still standing. there so we had to stand in the entire time well grant got some camera time and then poor spencer's camera time is calling his mom to cry oh man again i'm not which is like look i get it you can call

your mom and cry fine they're going to put the camera on it of course but the way that they edited it with the four who are going to the semifinals if you want to call it that toasting jens laughing having a good time they're airing spencer's mom the audio over that yes and him crying. Yeah. What has this mean? Spence, what does this mean? It means I'm out, Mom.

Oh, man. Cheers, everybody. Heartbreaking. Here's to hometowns, baby. Don't you want to do a toast? Somebody, who's, who's weeping? What does that sound? And you just see Spencer through the window sobbing on the phone with his mom.

That poor guy. You see Sam and, like, running in the bushes. Spencer's another good get for Bachelor in Paradise. Yeah, I think he could be a nice, uh, more of a touchy one. Yeah, I think that he, you know, you need that. A sensitive guy. I ended up, that's the funniest part, through this journey that we've had with this show, I found myself gravitating.

I liked Spencer. I wanted Spencer. I didn't really mind Spencer. I didn't like him up front. I didn't either. I thought he was a bit of a nerd, but towards the end, he grew on me. The nerdiness was very endearing towards the end. I was, I appreciate this guy because you know what?

At no point did he change. He was 150% himself. So, Spence, you know what? I hashtag stand with Spence. Hashtag Stan with Spence. Hashtag Stan with Spence. Hashtag fuck Sam. And he's that.

Oh, whoa, whoa. I mean, come on. The statement's ridiculous. It's fucking insane. I'm just saying I get standing up for your kid. And he does look like an asshole on national TV. Actually, really quick. I want to just see if I can search just that.

Hashtag. Stand with Santa. See if anybody's actually doing that. Can we read a tweet or two if it is? With Sam M. Come on. on, there's got to be one response. Oh, there's a lot of them.

Yes. But it's mostly, it's not people in support. Read two of them. All right. This has nothing to do with it, actually. Most people are just like, the fact that he used the hashtag stand with Sam M is hilarious. I'm not even watching this season, but the fact that somebody's dad did that is great. And then I went all the way to the bottom, and there's a tweet from 2017, glad you got your

chlamydia taken care of. Hashtag Stan with Sam M. Could it be about him? Who knows? I don't know. Fuck, yes. That's the best. Oh, God.

I'm so happy I saw that. But let's give it a little update here on the teams. There's only four guys left. Steele lost a lot of people last week. I got a lone soldier. He lost everybody this week. But luckily last week we gave him Jeremy. Thank God.

Because he lost all of his players. What did I say last week? I said, that's my dark horse now. And what did he do? No, last week when I still had my full team. Oh, yeah. You still had Grant. Yeah.

That's, look, Jeremy. Sam, which was not going to happen. No, I mean, we knew that I was going to fizzle out. That was after we drafted the very next week, we're like, uh, you're in trouble. As soon as we talked about, I was like, fuck. Between him and Thomas and, I was like, I'm screwed. Yep. But Jeremy, great late addition to, uh, team Steele, very excited to see what he does.

He's definitely a finalist in my eyes because I got, ah, it's going to be tough, though, because Devin's getting to the end. Yeah. Devon's into the end. Jonathan's strong candidate. I just don't think there's enough there. then you got Marcus Mark. Oh, fuck. Marcus.

Yeah, I've got a hell of a team. It's fucking Marcus and Devon. Damn it. Jeremy. Got a solid team. Hashtag, stand with Jeremy. I don't know, though, because they showed the scenes for next week, and it looks like she's having a blast with Jeremy still. Oh, good. So that's good for me. It looks like with Devin, she did a bit of a fun run

where everybody in his family was running around with shirts that had him and Jen on it, which is a little cringe. That's potentially problematic. And then obviously you've got all the, family members coming in like uh you know this isn't a game this is love jett you need to figure it the fuck out i love that i just met you lady i love no it's gonna be great give me the hard it's gonna be great i'm gonna love breaking it down next week when we get that yeah i'm excited but uh let's get to some questions questions i wonder if we're gonna have a break for uh it'll

probably lead us right into labor day bachelor starts september october and we are 100% covering it oh yeah so you if you're not listening if you're not watch you better get on board because we're on this train for a while. We're on this shit. All right, we'll do two here from Severn Dazzo. How uncomfortable were all of those scenes with Sam? Not uncomfortable at all. We loved watching us.

Dude, I could have rewound them and watched them again. I might do that tonight. They were everything I needed them to be. It was the perfect ending to the arc. Yep. There's such a great payoff. Bravo to the producers of this show for giving us that send-off. It was remarkable.

And from Gail style, do you understand why she chose Jeremy over Grant? Grant should be the next bachelor. It looks like Grant is the next bachelor. I don't know if that's why he got the boot. We can speculate. It makes a lot of sense if he's going to be the next bachelor. Let's go ahead and do it. Grant over Jeremy makes way more sense.

Grant over Jeremy is recency biased, though, I feel like. He got recency biased. Yeah, I think he got recency biased because he, He hadn't had a one-on-one with her in a little while. She's, he's just kind of there. The one-on-one that they had was nice and it was romantic, but I know what happened. I think that Jeremy's hit a little sooner.

What? I know what happened. If that, if it was not an industry plant where it's like, all right, you got to get Grant out of here's our guy for next season. Too much too soon. Falling for you. I'm in love with you. That caught her off guard.

She wasn't ready for it. Yep. She didn't feel the same way. This, correct. Take your last stand. Yeah. Yeah. Instead of reiterating, hey, I am falling for you.

Was he the second or the third guy that he was too early to say it? Sam N was the first. He was way too early, but, you know, for her safety. He had no connection, and he was still saying that he loved her. He's a love virgin. He doesn't know. But, yeah, I think that's my theory. All right.

I'm excited to see Grant as the bachelor. I think he's going to be a great bachelor. I think so, too. He's all around. If I'm Jen, if I'm Jen, if I'm yelling. I'm emphatic about this. You said you like to whisper or not scream. Well, I met you halfway, pal.

This is going to work out for me and you. If I'm Jen, it's between Marcus and Grant, honestly. Looking back over the season, those are the two that I would probably bring down to the wire. Because Devin, I still think there's some stuff that he's kind of playing up. I don't know, man. Jeremy, kind of rose to the top. Jeremy, I'm very happy. If we're power ranking right now for who we actually think is going to win,

I don't think that Marcus is going to win. You think he's going to be too shut off? I think he's still working through everything, which is fine. And he said that he likes to work. He's at least, like, honest. And he's working through it. Because he did say he likes to move slow and he's moving through it. But this is not a slow show.

It's not a slow burn. You have to get engaged at the end, so I don't have him at the top. I'm going to put him at four. Okay. I'm going to put. Yeah, this is tough. I'm going to put Jonathan at three. I'm going to put Devin at two and Jeremy at one right now.

I'm close. I have them. I'm close. I'm going to go Jonathan. Marcus 3 after that's a very, I would have had Marcus higher, but that's a good point. Marcus 3, Devin 2, Jeremy 1, yeah, well, there you go. All right. And recency bias.

We love it. We got recency bias too, apparently. We're open about it. Yeah, we're very honest. A couple of open bros. Yeah, that's right. But anyway, you got anything else? Nope.

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