Bros & Shows - Scamanda The "Money Queen" (RHOBH Full Recap)

Episode Date: December 23, 2025

What's up Bros?! This was a better episode, for the first time in a few years we were entertained by some light hearted activities. Boz sets everyone up on a speed dating event. Dorit excels, Erika is awkward and Kyle confirms she's not ready to date. Boz digs a little bit and we get the much awaited for "i could go brad or i could go angelina". The big thing from this episode is we learn a bit more aout Amanda and her business dealings. Turns out our inclinations were correct. Her business model is an online course set up and it sounds 100% like a cash grab. Boz picks up on it quickly and sets her up in one of the better RHOBH scenes in a very long time. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Bros and shows. I got to have me my pros and shows. Brows and shows. Rose and shows. I got to have me my bros and shows. good evening everybody welcome back to another episode of bros and shows i'm your co-host steel russell joined as always by oh no i can't say that uh shooter schuter macuffin i thought you were going with but maybe not oh that would have been better uh no i got to know where

you're going no no absolutely not absolutely not welcome back everybody uh we are here to talk some Beverly Hills were gearing up for the holiday season. So whatever holiday, you're getting ready to celebrate. Happy holidays to all of you. This was a better episode. There's not a lot. Like, it's not a lot of substance in this one. But as far as enjoyability, watchability, something we haven't seen from this cast,

from this show in, I would argue years, years. We haven't seen something. It's just a fun. Let's get together. Loosen the fuck up. It's not that serious. let's just have some fun as a cast. I think maybe we credit Bose for this

because it's been years since there's been a good idea that what we've been talking about, which is getting these women out of their comfort zone, putting them in weird situations because if you have them as a group in a weird situation, they might actually like each other. They might actually lead on each other for support. It's very weird because we see them try to look for support

and then one side or the other will lash out. like Doreet looking for support in a breakup with P.K. Kyle trying to give that support. No, absolutely not. I'm going to go after you. Okay, that didn't work. Let's put them in an uncomfortable, weird situation. And maybe they can all just kind of bond over this.

So maybe we credit Bose. I think Bose had a really good episode. I want to talk more about her towards the end of the episode with new cover Amanda. But it's just so good. I agree with you. It's just like a fun little quirky episode, which in the grand scheme of things, no, I don't think it does that much for the show but for a group like this that let's be very honest they're becoming more and more unlikable by the hour this makes them a little bit more likable this is all

we really need it right like this is a show that has gotten so broken down and so unrecognizable of beverly hills of old that we have been going through tropes after tropes after tropes for year after year after year we're talking about the same thing all the time regardless of who we're talking about it's the same topic of conversation even fun activities in years past have been centered around the bullshit going on in their lives the last thing i can remember like this was eagle woman and fucking uh what's the assistant we always forget the assistant raven's claw it was raven something it was raven something i don't remember what it was though raven claw we'll call her raven claw we'll call her raven claw yeah but that's the last thing i can remember

where it's like let's get the group together do something wacky but even that it gets so serious and so deep it's like not everything is this fucking serious that's what this speed dating thing did it's like oh these people aren't robots that read off of cue cards like they actually can go and giggle and be kind of awkward and just mingle and and have fun like that we haven't had fun on this fucking show even the strip club was the closest we got and sutton through a temper tantrum Like, that's what this show is. This was so relieving to me. Yeah, it really did actually seem fun.

It seemed happy. It seemed upbeat. There was no, like, da, da, duh, da music about the same thing that we've heard 55 times by, you know, the last two seasons. It seemed like everybody was getting along, even to the point where Sutton and Derreet were able to sit down next to each other. Derreet invited Sutton to come sit down next to her. Sutton, I think, we kind of called this last year when we found out that Garcel was actually leaving, that this is what Sutton was going. to have to do. Now, we thought that it was going to look a little different. We thought that it was going to be a little annoying, a little brown nosy. I got to go after Kyle. I'm going

to follow her around like a puppy and hope that she can be my friend. Instead, what we're seeing is just Sutton, so far anyway, and we're only a couple episodes in, has not put her foot in her mouth, has not said the wrong thing at the wrong time, which is what she's known for. And instead, she's actually, it seems like she's giving a thought to what she's saying before she says it. Who knew that she was capable of doing that? I didn't. But also, it's not meant. with angst. It's not met with anger from the other person, as we've seen in the past. So it just seems like they're a little bit more loose. They're a little more open. And you might be able to accredit that to what they're going through in their personal

lives with Kyle and Derreet, even Eric, to some extent, with Tom in jail and potentially dying in jail. There's enough going on over there where it seems like they're willing to talk to the other women, to at least hear them out and not cut them off right away and say, no, I'm right. You're wrong. Or I don't want to hear what you have to say. So that's really the only thing. And I know the bar is incredibly low for this group. Non-existent. It's in the marioness trench. Exactly. Yeah. James Cameron actually went down there last year to see if he could raise the bar. He couldn't. He could not physically get down there. It was Ocean Gate Part 2, except James

Cameron didn't go down there because he's not stupid enough. He actually put a drone in there. So no one actually died when it imploded. But, you know, that's a different podcast for a different day. This one, this bar was non-existent. This bar is not there at all in terms of them being friends. And what we saw in this episode was just a group of women that were getting along. I don't really know who to credit. I don't know if you look at a Rachel Zoe, you look at Bose, you look at, and obviously Amanda wasn't part of this, but you look at maybe the new blood and say, okay, there's something going on here. We can try to get some of the old stiff women who just don't really care and don't want to get out of their comfort zones and they're fine with just collecting their paycheck. That's boring.

Let's try to light, liven it up a little bit. And I think that's maybe what we're seeing. I don't know. I don't want to go too far with this because I do think this is one of. the first just enjoyable fun episodes that we've had of Beverly Hills in three years. Yeah, no, I agree. I think this one you credit Bose. I think that's correct.

I think she is, she's the orchestrator, and it also, she set the tone throughout. Like, she was checking in. Like, I love that. She was bopping around, making sure we're staying on track. We're not getting too serious. We're just having awkward conversations. 100% give credit to Bose. And I will give her a big leap here because she was, she was pissed to me.

off from last year into this year and then that step mother comment was fucking nuts this was a huge step forward because this is just like good house wifery let's set up something fun let's have a good time with it so let's jump in because i don't want to sing the praises like this is the greatest show on earth because it's not this was just a step up from what we've seen but the one thing i do want to say before we start and i think this is very important i don't want to credit sutton with like oh she's more enjoyable now oh she's she's talking to people she's being a coward and doesn't have garcel there anymore to lean on and she's just falling back in line so like it's it's good for the show because we have a cohesive cast in that regard but i'm not going

to sit here and be like sutton's doing great sutton's a coward she's afraid of the group and she knows that she can't stand her on two feet without carcel so she's falling in line and i love Sutton. I do it. We might just have to do this regardless. It might just be a reset period where she needs to do this so that she can get back to finding out what her role in the group is. Because without Garcel, she might be a little lost where we identified that last year. I mean, she was essentially just a mouthpiece for what her and Garcel used to talk about. And it was to both of their detriments, to be honest, because we used to ask for more from Garcell instead of just being behind the scenes, talking to Sutton, talking about what Kyle's going through and then assuming

that Sutton's going to put her foot in her mouth and just say something at the wrong time and it's going to all blow up, but you're going to be able to get the satisfaction because you're not really involved or you try to further it. That seemed to be what we were doing. But for Sutton, I think no matter what, we did have to get back to this place. So you can say, yeah, she is falling in line. Of course, she's following in line. But she wants to be likable. We've always said that about Sutton. She just wants everybody in the group to like her. She doesn't want any issues. A lot of that has to do with the other parties, though.

You see Erica warming up to it a little bit. you see Jareep warming up now after this episode a little bit. And they're not really understanding Sutton as a person, but they're at least getting to the point where every time she opens her mouth, they're not rolling their eyes. So I don't know. Well, we'll have to see where it goes. You might be completely correct in six, seven episodes.

We're looking at Sutton saying, okay, yeah, enough. Like, get out of Kyle's ass. We don't want to see that. That's boring. We don't need another yes man on this cast. Or she might go back to some semblance of what she was with Garcell, which if she does it the right way, we agree you do need somebody on the cast that's going to do that for sure absolutely okay wow we

switched roles this season i know right usually i defend something interesting okay but i see i see where you're coming from that makes sense to me let's jump in to pose a speed dating thing she called a bunch of dudes that she knows a bunch of a bunch of good successful men to try to set up this group because she says one of the funnier lines seeing as this is a housewife show everyone's single so let's change that. Let's see if we can mix it up a little bit. It was really funny watching everybody do their thing because I think all of us assumed, okay, Erica Jane's going to go run the table. No. And the best part about that is the self-awareness of Erica Jane. Because her confessionals were great. She's like, oh, Erica, awkward as shit. And you watch it play out. I love that.

I love seeing a different side of somebody that we've watched for years. And you're like, oh, I just assumed you were a man-eater. I guess you're a little bit awkward. That's really funny. Watching Sutton be super duper comfortable was astounding. Doreet found herself again. She was. She won. She won the speed dating. So again, of substance, nothing. Entertaining? Absolutely. Yeah. I agree with you. I didn't see Erica doing this. I didn't see the side of Erica. I think between this and her watch what happens live appearance, she's done wonders for her self-image. because she was that,

I don't want to go as far as to say, Manator, because we haven't really seen her on dates. We haven't seen her love life on this show since Tom, and we used to go after her for that. But in this scene, it just shows a little bit of vulnerability, and it shows that she can be a little awkward, which I think being a little awkward is kind of fun.

It's kind of interesting because it kind of brings you back down the earth with the rest of the women in the group who are a little awkward. And you have somebody like Kyle who's going through something, Dorek going through something. They're all in like similar stages, But different, if that makes any sense. Similar stages, but there are different times on, like, of that stage. On the spectrum, yeah.

One year removed. One's three removed. One's five. Like, yeah, I see what you're saying. Yeah. And we haven't really seen aside from Sutton, honestly, in the last like four or five years on this show, any one of them going on dates. And Sutton, maybe she learned a thing or two from all those weird dates.

I mean, we had to get the flashback of the guy talking about his mom constantly. I would have liked the other flashback of the other guy when she went on the date when she was wearing the cat sweater. that was a little bit more intriguing. The mom guy was a little creepy. I didn't like him. But maybe Sutton picks something up. And look, there's a little confidence in there.

And this is, again, very enjoyable to watch because I didn't see it playing out this way. When it first started, I thought, all right, you know, this is going to be a little weird. Kyle's going to be crossed arms the whole time, not wanting to open up. Doreet's going to be who the hell knows. She's a bit of a wild card. Sutton's going to be awkward. And Eric is going to be making dick jokes. That's kind of what I thought was going to happen.

and I had that playing out in my head. And it was not very entertaining. This iteration, whatever we just watched, was very entertaining. And it was just nice to see them live it up a little bit. It's just funny watching them walk in. And this tells you they're in a similar place. They're all wearing black. They do look like they're going to a funeral.

The preamble's my favorite part. It's like, oh, and don't ask for dick picks. Yep. Do you have, is that? I don't think that's a necessary prerequisite. I don't think you have to say that. Unless they're that awkward. It's like, now what do we do?

Do you send me your dick? What's the next? The phone number. I've only read this online. I've been spending a lot of time on Reddit going down. I think first date, Dick Pick time? Okay, I got it. All right.

I'm locked in now. Now I got you. But yeah, we get to watch all their dates. The dudes are very interesting just because you have a wide range of you got Matt, who's an asshole, you've got the comedian, you've got the entrepreneur, you got Seabas, who is the motivational speaker from Australia. Of course, he's going to win. because all he's knew is talk.

And what did the Daniel, I think, was the comedian. He was funny because he goes, oh, I see the accident already got you two ladies. That's how it works. No surprise there. So, yeah, just an enjoyable scene. I just love the scene of Bose's assistant walking out talking to Bose about who's hitting it off, what's going on out here. Bose obviously identifies Sebastian as the guy that everybody's going after. Bose's assistant also in love with Sebastian.

All right, get the fuck out of here. This isn't for you. Go away. That was fun. There were a couple of chuckles along the way, which I haven't said in a while for the show. It was just very enjoyable. I agree. But everyone groups back up.

And the only thing that we really get is talking to Kyle and trying to understand where she's at in this point. And we've seen this clip probably a million times the Brad Angelina thing. And it's Bose trying to, I know what she's doing. Like it's not about the question. It's about relaying to Kyle. hey, I'm trying over here. You got to give me something. Like, just peel back a layer a little bit so we could move forward as a friendship.

And she does enough. You know, she's like, I'm not really looking for anything. And you see her relating more to Derreet, which is a good sign for the future. We don't want to see them fight all the time. She's like, look, Dorit, you get it. You're not looking for a man either. She's like, I'm fresh out of this thing. You're three years removed.

Like, this is a different situation. But, yeah, Kyle, and I'm trying to give her credit where I can, in her own Kyle, way she's attempting to open up and hopefully hopefully put this thing to bed where it's like we can get a better picture now from her we've all speculated to this degree where we know where she's at but hearing her acknowledge it i'm not entirely sure i'm attracted to people all that makes sense to me no you shouldn't have to say it out loud but because you're on a reality tv show we do need these little irrelevant moments it doesn't tell us anything new, but we need you to acknowledge it so we don't feel crazy at home. So that's what this is

doing. It's funny, too, because I think last week I was doing a bit of a flip and not necessarily defending Kyle because I think we're all as an audience at the point where we just don't want to hear it from Kyle anymore unless there's new information, an update on what's going on, some actual feelings, some actual thoughts. And we didn't think we were going to get that from her. Going into this, and obviously, like you said, we've seen the Brad and Angelina, a quote, a million times we saw it in last week's trailer we saw the Bose was the one to ask Bose was also the one to ask last week I was ready to just say enough those like just leave her the fuck alone like we're not going to get anywhere let's just leave it alone and move on

with our lives but I thought this was better I thought that this was a little bit more and like you said this is Kyle's version of opening up this is Kyle's version of trying to trying to trying to show the women where she's actually at show them where she's going and what her plan is for the next you know a couple of months at least to a year trying to figure things out this was a little bit more substance, at least. And I did think for a second there, because Erica got up in the middle of it, that she was actually pulling Doreet to tell Doreet what Kyle told her last week. That's what I thought was happening because Dorete started back down that road.

And when she said, you're three years in, I'm only a couple of weeks in, which it's not a couple of weeks. You've been separated from PK for a while since we were filming last season. You were separated from him. But I'm not going to go into that. I did think that Erica was pulling Doret to go, all right, let's back off of Kau. She is opening up a little bit, but she's going to just immediately shelter in place

if you go after her again. And I don't want that because we're seeing something. So that's kind of where I thought this was going. But instead, no, we get a little check in with Doreet and Erica and Sutton walking over there to go sit down. And who says, come on in, Sutton, want you take a seat? And this was just a really nice scene. And this is something that was building, even going back to last season on the boat,

when Sutton said, hey, I'm here if you need me. And then everybody attacked Sutton and she had that weird wig out. and then she went after Doreet in the Sprinter van on the way home. We thought that, okay, you can give perspective. Everybody in this group can give perspective. They've all been through divorces. Some of them messier than others. Some of them still ongoing.

But ultimately, they can give you some advice if you're open to hearing it. And you do need to listen to somebody like Sutton, even though you're not close to her. This was just a nice scene because we did get that perspective. And we got to read actually hearing her and acknowledging in her confessional that she hadn't seen this side of Sutton. Maybe it's because you haven't letting her get there. I don't know. But Sutton did at least get there and it was nice. Yeah, it really was.

And watching Erica give Sutton the Rick's number, just little shit like that. Like the group's starting to heal. And to your point earlier, if that is the stage that Sutton's in and it's not cowardice, but it's more neutrality until she finds her new role, this is what we kind of need. We need everyone's talking again and not from a volatile place, but like, hey, it's almost like watching friends that haven't hung out in like five years and now they're forced back to hang out again. It's like finding where you fit in the group. That's what we're watching right now. I'm okay with that. We used to see that too. If you remember, like in the off season,

we already knew that they didn't hang out in the off season for the most part, but you would see them come back together and it would take a few episodes just to kind of work the kinks out. But by the fourth or fifth episode, they would actually be in a good place. And then recently last three years, I want to say, we never got there. It was just always on edge. There was always so many different situations where they weren't going to open up, they didn't want to talk to this person, there was another person in the group that had issues, and it was just a mess, and it was just a sheltered mess of not getting anywhere. And that's kind of where we found ourselves with Beverly Hills for three straight seasons. So again, we don't want to put

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This is a fun episode for Amanda. Jeez. So we get to go to Amanda's house to meet her family, lovely, lovely family. Husband seems normal for now. We'll find out if he actually is or not, he's in construction. He's going down to Disney World to build a new ride or some shit. I don't really know. But she talks about her job and what she does because we've heard a little bit here and there.

We haven't heard exactly what she does. We've heard she's the money queen and she gives people financial advice. She gives people advice on their mindset around money. She gives people advice on how to approach it, what to feel, how to draw money towards you. And the second that we started getting the Instagram posts with the fucking words over a professional photo of like, tell yourself, you will be rich. I'm like, oh, wow, you're like a full-blown grifter. You are a Ponzi scheme with no product. That's what this is.

And your product is an online course. When she said online course, I was like, oh, you scammed your way. way on to Beverly Hills, that's pretty wild. What a grifter. But this is, that's why, and we're going to talk about it later, Bo's catapulted up the rankings with her, how she handles Amanda at the end, because that was all set up. Yeah, that was all set up. Awesome.

So I can't wait to talk about that. But yeah, that's what I get from there. I get Instagram scammer, buy my course, you'll get rich, money's not. about knowing about finances. Money's about how you feel. That's fucking crazy. Yeah. Yeah, that was wild to hear, honestly.

My first takeaway was that I was impressed that she was able to make that much money. Now, the question is, did she make that much money? Who the hell knows? We will find out, I'm sure, at some point. Although she was at Kathy Hilton's holiday party last week. So I think she's still in tight with everybody. But that being said, still kind of impressive

because it is an experiment on the human condition. People will buy your product even though it's complete and utter bullshit and you're not teaching them what to do with the money, but rather the energy that surrounds the money. It's the fucking astrology of finance. Yes. That's what this is. You were born in February, so you are entitled to getting money.

She even said that. She basically did the like 3,000 years ago, I was promised getting rich. That doesn't make a whole lot of sense. But in my soul, I can feel it. In my soul, I know that. that I'm supposed to be rich. That doesn't make a whole lot of sense.

Maybe if you just showed, hey, I worked really hard. I figured out a product that people would buy. And then I started selling books and they bought the books. If she was even like somewhat realistic about this, I think I would have a different take on this. Because again, it's just consumerism and it's just capitalism. So like, I don't really fucking care. It's America. What are you going to do?

If you made money off of that and people are stupid enough to buy it, go right ahead. Go ahead and go do that. You're not really scamming people, but you are selling them absolutely not. nothing it's a book of opening it up it's basically uh it's a book that has 500 pages but 300 of them are empty so that you can fill in your own thoughts correct pretty much what i imagine amanda's doing so that was very funny to hear i was laughing the entire time and again i was a little scared though because the way that these women have approached certain things in this show as of late anyway i didn't think anybody was going to hold her accountable i didn't think anybody

was going to ask any questions because what happens on this show is people do shit like this or have shady backgrounds, a la Diana Jenkins, and no one asks any questions. No one asks to go deeper so that we can find out some things. We can unearth some of these issues and talk about them and then have them, like, completely squander and go back and forth and not have any idea what to say back to them. We don't get to those points. However, this episode played out a little differently, and it gave me a little hope. Same here.

I'm excited to talk about that scene. But yeah, she's a snake oil salesman. That's what I've got. And like you said, it is what it is. people paid they bought the course they bought the book she made the money it is what it is but to be the quote unquote money queen and admit that you have zero financial background zero knowledge of finance other than how to attract money is insane that's fucking nuts and only only in america would that fucking work it also might work in this group too because

isn't fuck i don't think so i think somebody has a perfect candidate to fall for it is yeah but somebody had um crystals and stuff in their walls didn't they who was that's uh that's uh that's Shannon Bador oh Shannon does all right so she should be on OC that would work really well my god this is quintessential OC they would all be buying her course in OC yeah that would that would work perfectly god Gina would be eating that shit up but yeah i don't think it's again I was a little worried that it wasn't going to play in this group because they weren't going to actually ask, but it looks like they will. I'm just so excited to watch this because she is not prepared for follow-up questions at all.

And I think that, like, she does think she's being clear enough about what she does, where if they were to ask those questions, she can just kind of go back and be like, look, I don't know. I don't have, like, any degrees in finance. I can't tell you what to do with your investments. I know enough, at least just surface level for terms, but everything else is just the energy that you put out there and how the energy is going to be perceived in the financial world. The second that she said life coach, I was like, oh, okay, uh, okay, you're a life coach and I can't, I can't believe a life coach made it onto a housewife show. That's nuts. Isn't that wild?

So like there is credit to be given here. Like, yeah, for being, that's what I said. Like, I'm impressed, actually. Yeah, I, I don't know. I'm excited to watch it play out. Let's get to Rachel and Sutton. Rachel is a breath of fresh air to this show. I know she's returning, but she came in very well because she's comfortable, but not doing

too much. I really like that. And she's talking to Sutton about the last name thing, which I'm hoping is just she's going to make a decision and we can move on. This cannot be your storyline, Strack versus Brown. But Rachel does offer some insight. She's like when I got divorced, I dropped the name the next day. She's like, you're not a Strack. You're a Brown. That's okay. And Sutton's coming to terms with losing the name. Losing the clout that comes with the name seems to be the driving factor. But she acknowledges that, which I appreciate. She's like, you know, the stracks have the houses. The Browns don't.

It's like, yeah, but you're not a strack. And I think she, it seems to me like she's coming to terms with it that she's going to drop the strack. But learning more about the marriage thing, it's like, okay, like the endowment happened a year ago, but you just found out about it. Now it gets a little bit confusing. But the one takeaway, I will say, which is a positive for Sutton, is one, she seems to be coming to terms of it.

And two, the realization of. of, I always thought that I would be able to get Christian back if I wanted to. This is kind of a nail in the coffin of, no, you can't. And that's probably at the end of the day, it stings. But I'm crossing my fingers that this kind of launches Sutton into a new phase, new era. Like, close the track book and maybe find who you are without it. Yeah, it might.

this was a very interesting scene this was the exhibit a of housewives these two don't actually hang out they don't sit down together one-on-one Sutton barely even said a word and Rachel just kept going on and on and on she's very comfortable which I really appreciate like you said she's very comfortable on screen she's very comfortable in a quiet room because Sutton was not adding anything in there and then once he gets Sutton up and talking it seems to go pretty well I'm hoping a little bit different though I'm hoping, and we both agree, this is show oriented, this happened a year ago, now she's talking about it in the beginning of this season, obviously, you know, she needed something to talk about to at least have a jumping point. But let's spin it a little bit. If she can do this well enough and she can speak eloquently on this subject, it could resonate with Kyle because she even said, I was always holding out hope that maybe Christian and I could get back together. We have those conversations and there's a second here, a second there.

Or I think, oh, maybe we can get back together and now it's gone and now it's done. And I didn't see any of those signs. If she can actually form some sort of argument or some sort of discussion with Kyle about this, I think it could actually help Kyle because Kyle's in that right now. And it's been three years, as Doreet said, it seems like Mo is moving on, but they're not having that discussion. If she can sit down with Sutton and Sutton can actually tell her that, tell her that I always thought that Christian and I would get back together.

and it never happened and then I had this finality and now I have to figure out what to do and move on and I wish I had done that years ago maybe that'll resonate with Kyle maybe Kyle will start to move forward a little bit I don't hold out a hope for that one but it at least showed some similarities some parallels there that I thought might be interesting

for somebody like Kyle if she'll hear her out yeah I didn't even think of it from that angle that that's a good point and I think will she acknowledge that that's going through her brain probably not but it might sit there like when Sutton tells Kyle that yeah if you're Kyle I don't know if she would ever be like oh yeah Sutton you're right but it could resonate behind closed doors where she's thinking about it I would love if she says to Sutton like oh shit like if we watch

that moment that would be a full circle where it's like oh we're Beverly Hills is healing yeah but I don't know I feel like that's giving Sutton from Kyle standpoint she would feel like she's giving her too much credit and we watch her all the time kind of knock her down just a bit just kind of keep her down here and Kyle has that air about her where she tends to say things like well my situation is way different mine's different with her and Derek going through it at the same time I mean it is different because PK seems to be a slime ball and Mo is just out there hoeing it up yeah it's a little different but it's not really that different and you're good friends and you're going through it at the same time you would think maybe you guys

could kind of butt your heads together and figure things out but they never actually did so Kyle's just got that weird feeling where what I'm going through is not what anybody else has ever gone through before so she's not going to be able to see the similarities that's my yeah that's that's the biggest potential issue of this storyline you're correct yeah is is not even her pretending it's just can you actually apply this to your life and see that it's the same thing because we can see it but like you just said Kyle tends to think that her shit is different than everyone else is shit.

Yeah. So that, oh, I'm glad you brought that. I'll be, I'll be on the lookout for that one. That's a good call. We get a quick scene with Kyle and Alexia picking out flowers.

Nothing crazy here. I do think it's very sweet that Mo and Kyle are going to walk her down the aisle. And it's again, it's kind of just, I think they're using Alexia this season as almost like a foil to show where Kyle was at some point. Yeah. It's almost like looking back at Kyle's past because then you get the, photos of her and Mo getting married. It's like just a flashback. But you're seeing it in real

time and watching her live through Alexia almost, which is honestly kind of interesting. I'm not hating these scenes with her family. No, no. I think these scenes make total sense, especially for a housewife show where she's been on here forever. And we've seen Alexia as a young child growing up and now getting married. It makes total sense for this to be part of the show. And again, this is the type of situation that we need to find Kyle in where she'll actually talk. And I don't care. if she's talking at her confessional. Yes, we did pine for her to sit down with any of the women and just kind of express what she's going through and talk about her feelings, talk about where her actual head is.

But if we have to do it this way, that's completely fine. I mean, Kyle's earned that. She's been on the show forever. And if we do it through Alexia, when she's going through all of her wedding planning, and Kyle is actually thinking about her marriage to Mo, all of the wedding stuff, all of the things that went into it, they raise the kids together. Now they're coming back together to give their child away. all of it is very symbolic all of it makes a ton of sense and if it gets Kyle to start talking about where she actually is with Mo I think it works really well no I agree I agree so it's going to be interesting to watch we haven't had an episode like this where it's like I can't wait to see this like oh I'm excited for that since we started covering this show so yeah we're going to get fucking crushed next week it's going to be awful and we're going to be so sad what do you mean next week this this week no is it two weeks for by

Hills officially yeah they're they're doing it to us again well because their their slot is on christmas and then new year's day uh boy hopefully we have some content i i saw i saw a poster uh and it had salt lake is done until i think the 30 29th the 29th i thought i think they're coming back before new years yeah they'll be back before new year's but potomac's episode last night isn't coming back they're not coming back for two weeks uh Southern Charm is done for two weeks. Below deck is the only thing that's odd. So maybe we just cover below deck.

I don't know. We'll figure something out. Don't worry, guys. I have actually been watching Below Deck Med recently. So we would be able to swing that one in there. But we'll figure it out. Don't worry, guys. Yeah.

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Before Doreet arrives, Bose is pressing Amanda a little bit. I know what, or I was hoping that this is what Bose was doing. I wasn't sure until we confirm it after a confession at the end, but she said, so tell me about it. Like, how did you get where you are today? Any corporate background? No, zero formal business experience. But I got my master's in counseling, I believe, and I became a therapist and a life coach. And then I just found it.

It had this knack for money, not like how to make money, but like, how to attract money, how to spend money. How to spend money. I have a gift, a gift around money. What'd you say? This is verbatim. I have a gift around money, not financial, but like mindset and energy and attracting it. What? What do you mean?

But I was, I was blown away because Bose is not reacting. Bose is a businesswoman. Bose is a CFO. She's worked with Apple, Netflix. She's doing that show now with Jimmy Fallon, where they're like hearing startup ideas or whatever. She's built an empire for herself. She's a fucking business woman.

I can't imagine what's running through her head hearing Amanda talk about her background. She's probably like, are you fucking kidding me? you know how much i've had to grind to get where i am and you made a fucking online course because you created she said i created good content and poof money queen grifter bo's new bo's already knew everything about her background she is done digging she's talked to other people she knows exactly what amanda's all about that's what that non-reaction told me one she's just going to see how far this goes try to get as much information out of amanda and two i already know all of this, but hearing it out of the horse's mouth

is a completely different thing. She had no reaction, but you can see it all with her eyes. Like, oh, okay. I'm not going to like nag. I'm not going to like bring you down, but what the fuck are we talking about right now? Let's just put a pin in this one. Doreet's here. Hey, Doree, what's going on?

Yeah, how are you? Right? Why don't we sit down? Okay, cool. Doree, what's going on with your finances? Good segue here. What's going on with your finances? Let's talk about that. This was unsettling, and this is actually, really sad to even hear. Yeah, I'm bum to hear this.

She doesn't know if there's any investment accounts, no retirement funds as far as she understands. PK handled all the money. And yet, her name is on all of the assets. That is awful. That is a brutal, brutal spot to be in. And I feel awful for her. I wrote red ass flag.

Actually, Crimson. Oh, shit. I wrote that in my book. That is terrifying. And that tells you. everything you need to know about P.K. He's probably got credit cards in his kids' names. He's probably ruined their credit, allegedly, allegedly, allegedly.

He is such a gross fucking scam artist, and we've called him out so many times. We called him out before it was cool to call him out. He's always given those vibes, but to hear that part of it, and to hear Dorete still somewhat defending him, and I get where she's at, and I'm sure it's like a rock and a hard place, but she's like, oh, you know, he's just a very complex part. He's not a bad person. It's a complex person. He does bad things, drinking, exacerbates things, blah, blah, blah.

She says that before she says, well, my name's on everything. I was like, oh, fuck. Like, you don't even know the shit storm you're about to run into. And that's what's really sad. And that's what I hope. I think she's starting to figure it out. I guarantee you she's probably starting to go through those meetings with her lawyers talking about certain things.

We saw last week that P. He had his lawyer contact her to let her know that he was going to go to Florida with the kids. Yeah. When they go down to see their grandparents. So I guarantee there are some sort of, you know, lawyer communications at least. And we've seen this actually a few times on Housewives. The most recent one I can think of is Drew and Ralph, where Drew sat down and started talking about how much money does Ralph have?

Where is all the money tied up in? Is his name on any assets? So I would imagine that Doreet's gone through that and she has some understanding. But her understanding is I'm fucked. Like I am absolutely fucked. There's no money here. The house is in pre-foreclosure. My name is on it.

I don't know what the hell's going on. There's no money in any of the accounts that you're just listing right now. Again, this is where I got the idea that Amanda at least has that surface level knowledge because she started talking about retirement funds and investments and things like that. Nothing. Nothing at all. It was very sad to listen to. No, and Bose clocks it.

And this was one million percent of setup. This was not a genuine question. This was, I'm about to expose you. Because they're like, okay, well, it sounds like you need a clean break. start from scratch get your shit back together start earning for yourself get your own accounts this that the other Amanda you're the money queen what should she do to set herself up and get started don't worry money queen's here who do you want to be what what kind of provider do you want to be I can hear this in like a podcast tone of this fucking online course I'm like yeah

I'm sitting at home going oh no because Durit's in a vulnerable spot. She's going to eat this shit up. You're right. I need to change who I am. I need to put out into the world, into the ether that I want to earn. I want to ABC always be closing. That's the new Dorit. Fuck yeah. But Bose across the table who actually has business and a financial acumen. She's fucking brilliant. Is going, oh, fuck. I didn't think it was that bad. Cut to confession. She's like, what the fuck is she talking about. This is terrifying. That's not what I asked you to do. That's not financial. What is this nonsense? Hmm, chef's kiss, perfect setup, perfect delivery from Amanda

unknowingly and perfect confessional. This was, this was very top notch housewife for Ria at Bose. I was very impressed. Yeah, this was very good by Bose. Bowes actually might be the smartest housewife that we have currently. Yeah. Because that was such a clean and easy setup. I saw a from a mile away, as soon as Reed started talking about her finances, I'm like, I can't wait for Bose to get Amanda involved. Or better yet, Amanda gets involved on her own and Bose just has an oh shit look. I actually kind of hoped that it was going to be the latter because Amanda is just stepping in like, hey, don't worry. I got you here. Have you ever thought about putting the energy out into the world to attract the money? Because you can make your own money. What do you want to look

at? Give me your five year plan, but I'm not talking about like hard financial plan. Where do you want to be. Tell me what your house looks like in five years. Like that's the vibe I'm getting from Amanda. And I really want her to just keep going. And I think Bose actually wanted her to keep going in that moment too. And yeah, she is kind of using a very vulnerable to reet as a pawn here. But still, we do need Amanda to just keep explaining what she does so that we can expose her because that is unbelievable work what she's doing. And again, I'm still somewhat impressed that she was able to do all of this and become a housewise of Beverly Hills. That makes no sense to me, but it is incredibly funny and I love it. And I think that when push comes to shove,

she is going to be erratic. And that's going to be very interesting to watch as well. But Bo's just sitting back with a smile on her face like, oh, wow, this is way worse than I thought this is to be. That's the five I got to. I think she was like, oh, she'll probably have like, like you said, the basics, right? Be able to talk about it, at least to sound educated. No, she went straight for manifesting, straight to the manifestation table. it was it was insane and yeah you're right it is somewhat impressive in a dirty kind of way to get to this point but the fact that she is completely money centric that's all she talks about all she is that's what made her is money she's going to step in it over and over again with this group

of women because you got kyle richards who you know the agency does really well kyle richard is a brand in her own name. Like, she is Kyle Richards. Erica Jane crawled out of the gutter of Tom Girardi and rebuilt her life. Doreet. She has actual people around her in Bose, Kyle and Erica. They'll make sure she gets to the right place without Amanda. But you have all of these very impressive women together.

And then you've got Amanda, who is the self-appointed, self-enointed money queen. Yeah. That's going to be so much fun. Because I had this. idea in my head that next episode, Bose is going to sit down with someone, maybe one, maybe two of the housewives and talk about what she learned about Amanda. I don't know who it's going to be Erica. I would imagine it's Erica because then watch what happens live. Andy said, give me three words that explained how you felt about Amanda when you

met her. And she said, no, no, no. So I do hope it is Erica because Eric has already got that vibe. I think it's probably Kyle and Erica, maybe just Erica, but that is going to be so funny to watch because I do want to hear we got a little glimpse into what Bose actually thinks. I want to hear her breakdown of what just happened in front of her face. And I hope that it is also from an angle of we need to make sure Durit isn't near this woman because she will eat it up. And Amanda will probably end up making money from Dorit to go to all this. She already bought her online course.

Yeah, she already bought her. Oh my God, I know exactly what you're talking about. I already bought that course. That's you? That's crazy. I didn't think you're the money queen. Oh, God, I can't wait. Ooh, it's going to be entertaining, but let's get to some questions.

Before we get the questions real quick, I did just notice because I went on Instagram. Your comment on your chef page about salt, I commented on it and said salt toast intolerant with a question mark, which is a completely made up term. Somebody sent a full paragraph back. I have not read it. I'm probably not going to read it. Explaining that I need to give people a little craze. Oh, God.

Hold on. Now I have to go find it. That I was talking, I sent to the group chat last night. I genuinely don't believe that an individual person is supposed to interact with this many people because you get things like this. And for those of you that don't follow, somebody commented on a recipe that I made and said, can't eat all that salt, how to cook without salt, to which I simply replied, don't use salt. All right, let me try, if I can find it quickly, why don't you find a question and I'll try to find. Oh, I found it. They're mine.

There you go. Oh, God, it's that level of shit? Yeah. Hold on. Dev's mom's walking to the door once Louis shuts the fuck up. Oh, boy. So Shooter said saltose intolerant, which was funny. I said precisely.

And then somebody, I won't read their name, said many people have medical conditions that require a significant reduction of salt intake. Like less than 1,200 milligrams a day, high blood pressure and congestive heart failure are examples. This person could have been asking for tips on how to enhance flavor without using salt. Let's give everyone a little great. it's not that serious it's simply not that serious i even talked to the person that made the comment and said thanks for being a good sport and they clarified i was asking how to dry the steak

out or try the outside of the steak out without using salt i wasn't asking about the flavor it's like oh that makes sense thank you wow that's jesus sorry uh all right first up here from the jewelster do we think the impending bows versus scamanda i like scamanda uh a feud will be good. Yes, I do think it's going to be good because I do think she's an unknown quantity. We don't know what she's going to bring to the table, but I do think people like this tend to go chaotic when they're pressed. And when people start asking questions about their livelihood, how they're doing what they're doing, and they're not quite there and they're a scam artist a bit, they're going to go into a complete spiral. And I do think that Bo's doing that

and being the person that to do that is the person I would choose because she is the most successful. she seems to be the brightest she understands what's going on and she probably also has some sort of you know disdain towards people like that yeah and she's also she never gets elevated to a point you know like everything she says she delivers calm and direct and it usually lands pretty well so like i'm stoked to see how she handles amanda because it's like it's going to be like watching a professional sports team play a jv high school team yeah man is going to so out of her depth trying to talk to Bose that Bo's because she's going to turn her into a mental pretzel. But I think the fascinating thing is going to be to watch people like Amanda or Scamanda,

I love that. They at some point convince themselves that they're being truthful and honest and that people that don't believe them are the problem. They're incapable of looking inward and going, am I scamming people right now? So to watch the level of false confidence, out of Amanda go up against somebody like Bose who has dominated the industry forever, seemingly, is going to be awesome. It's just she's going to be so out of her element. It's going to be great to watch. Yeah.

This is more of a statement, but it's on the same path from Kate Cochran. Having a housewife selling courses as her wealth source is a recession indicator. I could not agree more. It truly is. The question that I want to read is, this is Rachel Rose. What is the quote unquote energetic part of my. that Amanda is talking about. They did say, and a recent study did release, I believe it's 82% of dollar bills around the

world do have cocaine on them. So I think that might be the energetic source. There you go. Not positive, but I believe that brings energy. That makes a lot of sense. I don't know. For the life of me, don't know. It's a great way to get people who are down in their luck to spend their last $25

dollars a month in hopes that things will get better. That's, yeah, it's actually really sad. But yeah, it is, it's just astounding that she was able to get on real housewives in that capacity. But does she know what she's about to run into? Like, that's where I get, like, what are you doing? This could dismantle your business, honestly. Like, this could be awful for you.

She doesn't know that. She's about to find out, though. people are already calling her Scamanda in episode three or what? Yeah, she's cooked. And she hasn't even really shown it. I mean, like this was the first glimpse, but everybody online's already calling her that. So, uh,

Coupy Poopie asks, would Erica being fired be enough to spice it up? She brings nothing. I disagree right now. Yeah, same. And look, this is an episode by episode basis for us. I do think you need to see what you have. They did make changes.

Let's see how this season goes. and then we'll do our debrief at the end on who she get fired. Yeah, and the best thing you said was it's episode to episode. We don't enjoy, despite what you may think with, like, O.C., we don't enjoy being negative week in and week out. So when they have a decent episode, we're going to talk about it from a positive disposition. Yeah. That does not mean that we are like, fuck, yeah, Beverly Hills is back, dude.

Well, speaking of O.C., Shadow Potato said, my question is how do you guys do it from OC to this you guys deserve a medal one you can probably nominate us for some sort of metal I don't know which metal but we'd love a metal that would be fantastic two this actually isn't that bad an OC I don't remember I think I blocked it out of my head I don't yeah this is substantially better than any episode of orange county the entire season that's yeah that they're not not in the same ballpark right now but that don't you think it's chato potato i don't know wouldn't they rhyme isn't that the whole point chato patato oh ah chato potato don't really work shadow shadow shadow shadow shadow do one more

a lot of people are going after the show very interesting yeah it is we're trying to be positive you guys are dragging us back down uh here you got that one i think you're really right ones yep Yeah, from Billy, big deals. Our boy, Billy, who's excited for Doreet's new fake Aussie accent? Can't wait. That one I'm excited for for one episode. Then I'm going to get annoyed. Yeah.

Or she just has certain words that have like an Aussie inflection. That's the best thing. Or it's all normal, but she just starts saying mate. Yeah. Oh, that would be good. That would be ideal for me. Her sweetheart. Yeah.

Oh, thank you, darling, mate. That would be great. Oh, boy. Well, who the hell knows? You know, hopefully it continues to be enjoyable. That's all we're asking for is let me enjoy 45 minutes of this show every week without complaining. So as of now, they're doing just fine. We'll see what happens next week. But that's all I got.

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