Bros & Shows - Scuba Steve’s Always Watching- RHOBH S12E06

Episode Date: June 17, 2022

On Episode 6 we touch on the drama between Dorinda and Vicki, and The Charlie Sheen and Denise OnlyFans argument before diving into this week of Dubai and RHOBH. We got peeping scuba divers and more! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Brov Bros. Good afternoon, everybody, and welcome to another episode of Brav Bros, your favorite podcast from the Bros for everybody, for whoever wants to... Listen, I am your co-host, Steele Russell, joined as always by Shooter. Shooter, how are you this afternoon? Doing great. And to start the show, I just wanted to jump in here to let everybody know that we jumped into the Twitter sphere this week and spent a good amount of time last night, live tweeting Beverly Hills, which was a lot of fun because we got a lot of interactions

from people out there that may not listen to us already. And maybe they will in the future, and that's great. Yeah, there was a lot of randoms that responded to your. tweets which is awesome yeah and there was one thing that kind of stuck out to me with that was i said something about dureate and i was addressed by another person on twitter that referred to me as girl you know that that's all she's got to talk about and that kind of rubbed me the wrong way because you know what we're trying to do here with this podcast is let everybody know the bravo's for everyone yeah two two bros here just talking about bravo now i'm on twitter doing that too so

I got to set the record straight. Yeah. And they just assume, or is it like the universal, like the general like, girl, like, you know what I mean? It could be. Yeah. Like, because I hear that, whether it's a boy or a girl, it's just like, girl, like, sometimes you got to start that when you're talking, especially Bravo stuff.

Like, fair. That makes sense. I wouldn't talk like that, but yeah, I go. No. But I mean, like, if it was a big moment where you had to be like, girl, do you see that? Yeah, that's true. Yeah. I don't know.

Regardless, I think what you're trying to point out is that. that we're trying to spread the word about the brav bros. Absolutely. We are bros. And that's okay. Yeah, that's what we're here for. Yeah, bravo's for everybody, damn it. Absolutely.

That's our whole platform, really. So just be sure to follow us on Twitter. If you are on Twitter, it's at brav underscore bros. Follow along with us. We'll be live tweeting the shows and just kind of shooting out some shots, different ways, see what's going on out there and see if we can get any feedback. Oh, one more thing. Just a reminder.

going to be on hashtag no filter with Zach Peter on June 27th. It's like a real Bravo podcast. So he had on Danny Pellegrino and Amanda Hirsch last week, which both are like, we're talking like Danny Pellegrino is arguably one of the most recognized Bravo podcasts. Like Dev's got his book on our coffee table like at all times. That's awesome. Yeah.

So he's like big deal. He was on the show. this past week um you know he's also interviewed like la la kent from vanderpump um i mean real deal on it yeah but like real people yeah and he's gonna throw us into the next and then me and you and i think that he's this might be the last time that he helped somebody on instagram after we go on the show we'll see how it goes i'm sure i i think we're gonna do great i take that back i'm not even putting that out in the internet we're gonna crush it absolutely and you should all tune in june 27th hashtag no filter was act

Peter. Now, now we can get into it. Yes. Let's get into why we all are here, why you're all listening to us. The Bravo. Let's get into the Bravo, baby. This week, there was a lot of side shit going on, a lot of stuff outside of the Housewives realm.

Well, I guess the first thing that I want to talk about, that is, I guess, I I guess it is within the housewife realm. Housewife adjacent, yeah. Yeah. Denise Richards, Charlie Sheen, 18-year-old daughter, just started an only-fans account. And there was some uproar. There was some definite responses from both parents. And it was interesting who spoke up about not agreeing with it and blaming it on Denise

was Charlie Sheen. Charlie Sheen is not happy, and he says that it's Denise Richards' fault. And I just think that is really interesting. It's incredible. If you remember Charlie Sheen, you'll remember hashtag tiger blood. Hashtag winning. Hashtag winning. Him just talking about how much he smokes crack all the time.

It has sex with countless women. Yeah. I mean, he's way out there for him to be blaming Denise Richards, who, albeit has her own. own issues. For him to be blaming her for this is crazy. It's a compilation and it's probably 7525 Charlie. I would say 90-10. Yeah, maybe even that. I mean, I know we love to get into math and percentages here. Absolutely. It's, I mean, let's not forget. He was like gallivanting around like talking about all the threesomes he was having. Like, he literally spent an entire year talking about sex and drugs and hashtag winning. And motherfucker, this is hashtag,

Hashtag karma. Like, I'm not going to get into whether or not I agree with it. You know, like it's whatever. It's 22. Yeah, I mean, only fans exist and there's millions of people to do it and have their own. So who the hell cares about that? Right. And like, let's be real, as Charlie Sheen and Denise Richard's daughter, like, she's probably going to make a million dollars in like a month.

Yeah. So you can't argue that it's lucrative. You can't argue that, you know, it is, it's a legitimized business in today's world. So can I understand why as a parent that would be uncomfortable? For sure. For sure. Like, I'm not even going to get into that. No, we don't even have to.

But for him to come out and put all the blame on Denise Richards is just crazy to me. Like, yes, she was like a sex symbol, like especially like when we were growing up, we had like wild things, like, oh, gee Denise Richards. But like, you went on talk shows. and talked about having threesomes. Your daughter must, what is she, like, 11 or 12 at that point? Probably, yeah. Like, she's old enough to know, like, what the fuck you're doing.

And you're going to point the finger, that's when you have to sit down. Like, if you really are a changed man, and, like, you got to wear that one. You got to be like, okay, that's on me. Yeah. I mean, Charlie Sheen shouldn't be in the news at all anymore. No. So him even saying anything shouldn't really merit any sort of response from anyone else. No, but I might put a poll out there just to see.

and like, who do you agree with? Is it Charlie's fault or Denise's fault? And is anyone to blame, really? Should you put blame? Probably not, but, I mean, once you open that conversation, once Charlie passes the buck to Denise and blames her, points the finger in her direction, it does open up the discussion. But, yeah, I mean, we don't really need to open up the discussion to begin with.

Who cares? Let the girl do what she wants. Yeah. She's 18. If she wants to do that, make a ton of money off of it, good for her. She's going to make, I mean, she's going to make a shit load. On top of that, we got some other housewife-adjacent stuff. Your girl Sutton is going to be on Chucky season two.

I love that. I actually do, too, because I can't wait to watch Chucky kill her. Oh, you know that he's going to kill her because, like, why else would she be there? She's not going to be a main character. I could see Sutton be actually a pretty good actress, but I think she could be a pretty good actress. Are you shitting me? Yeah, well, as far as like a sci-fi series goes. Yeah, well, that's not, I mean, obviously the bar's low there, but like...

Yeah, but like horror fans love child's play. The first season of Chucky actually did really well, I was looking at the numbers. So to bring Sutton in, yeah, she's absolutely going to get killed. It's not going to be... She's murdered within the first five seconds she's on the screen. I think she's got like three lines and then like she'll walk into a room and you'll hear the music. And you might hear, Whack.

No, she's going to tell Chucky to mind his manners. Oh, that would be great. Actually, I do hope that they lean into who her character is from Housewives. Absolutely. I think they will. And I guess she got into it because Jennifer Tilly, who is the wife, the bride of Chucky in, like, all the movies. Yep. I guess they're like besties.

Yeah, they're friends. Jennifer Tilly has a major role in the show. still and she's on watch what happens live like two or three times a year so yeah she's she's a good friend to annie goins too so it's the the inner workings and the tying in there from bravo you know that there's going to be at least one reference to beverly hills and they're going to make sutton do that of course but yeah she's she's absolutely going to get murdered by chucky and that's it's going to be fun to watch i know you're going to get a lot of pleasure out of it i can't wait steel's going to get a ton of pleasure out of that yeah not to be too like grim here but like

Like in the realm of like fictional television, sure. Well, I will say this. I promise that in say a year, whenever this comes out, we will snip the clip of Sutton being murdered by Chuckie, whether it's audio or video at that point. And we will make sure that that leads the show. That's going to be the intro. Absolutely.

I will change the intro music to or our intro song, whatever you want to call it to just that scene. I think it would be hilarious. And I'll do a video clip of me reacting to it. Yeah. Yeah. We'll do a live clip of watching that one too because that's going to be a lot of fun. So that's that on your calendar.

Chuckie, season two, we are not sponsored by Chuckie. No, we are not. Or sci-fi. That's a free or sci-fi. I guess you can't be sponsored by adult, but whatever. Keep an eye out for that. And we'll keep you updated. I'm excited for that, honestly.

Yeah, it's going to be a lot of fun. But then we got, I guess everything. as housewives adjacent. We lied. Now we have issues going on. There's a new series coming out, or I guess it's season two of a new series, real housewives, ultimate girls' trip.

But this one is the ex-wives club. And there's drama coming out between Derinda, which is not surprising, versus Vicky Gunvelson. And so what happened was I don't know if you saw but I forget what season it was a while ago

Vicky dated a guy or was married to a guy one of the two that lied about having cancer for like an entire season Was it like stage three cancer too? It was like a serious cancer that he told people

he wasn't getting chemo and had gone into complete remission doing some sort of wacky treatment okay which is dangerous on so many levels to put that out there when you're in the national spotlight. Yeah. Like we don't have to get into the ethics of it because it's pretty black and white.

But like Jesus Christ, like, you cannot, you can't lie about having cancer in regular life, but you definitely can't do it on TV. Like, of course people are going to find out. But, you know, that's not what we're here to talk about. If you want to get into that, go back and watch. But Dorinda has a house up

And the Berkshires that she calls Bluestone Manor, I believe. And if you haven't been to the Berkshires, Dev, my wife and I, we went up there on vacation for like a long weekend and rented an Airbnb, actually arguably because of housewise, because of Durinda always talking about how nice the Berkshires are and like they have clips from up there. But she lives in like a very classic, like historic house. and, like, she does, according to people, you know, I don't have that much of an eye for it, but she does have taste.

Like, that's one thing that Durinda's associated with is, like, good taste. So, Vicky calls the house old in, like, a condescending way. Like, oh, you live in, like, this old house. And Durinda says she doesn't know the difference between old and historic because she has no taste. And then the best quote from her is, she has no. taste she dates men that pretend to have cancer that is a taste yeah or no she says at least i don't date men that pretend to have cancer and then leave me for a younger woman yeah i mean that should that should be the ultimate trump card just end it there don't respond you can't respond you can't come back from

that you lost yeah you lost but then i guess derinda came out again and said she's been ignoring like hundreds of text messages like she's blowing up her phone i don't know if it's in regards to the actual comments or if it's more than that but like you lost the game over let's get into it um because we got two house five shows the cover uh we got Dubai and um I actually enjoyed this week I didn't think I don't think it's like a home run no but we are starting to get out of the the learning and introduction phase into more of the, you know, the issues that happen internally between these relationships and the friendships that may or may not exist or just kind of like the petty things that

happen in between and whether or not somebody's going to get over it and share an olive branch or, you know, a lemon branch, if you will, and kind of go from there. So it is getting to the point where I think we're going to have maybe an eruption at a dinner, which will be great. Or, yeah, an actual sit-down where people are just yelling at each other. And I think we will get there. I think we're starting to see the stepping stones to that. And like you said, this week wasn't a home run, but it was a step in the right direction. I don't think the show overall is a home run. I think it's, I think it has potential. I'm excited to see where it goes. I do like eye on. I think she's great for TV.

Yeah. I like Lisa. Actually. I think she's pretty solid as well. And that's actually where we start the episode off. Lisa is getting her maternity clothes ready, Mina Roe, for her first fashion show. The very first maternity clothing line fashion show in Dubai history, according to her. So I don't know.

Yeah, we didn't fact-checked that one. remotely fat-checked at all. Nope. But according to her, and I believe all the housewives with everything they say. So this is the first ever maternity fashion show in Dubai. Which is funny because she's also trying to say, I don't want people to look at Minero anymore and just associate us with maternity clothing because we do other things. And that's what we're going to show in this fashion show.

Well, this is actually the first time they're showing their non-maternity clothes. But to your point, like you're trying to get away from maternity only because you recognize that's not lucrative as a business because you have returning customers like every two or three years and then never again. Yeah. So if you're trying to get away from that

and then you want to highlight that it's the first maternity show, I mean, you've got to pick a lane. Yeah, and it kind of like, the way that they started it off with, with Ion and Lisa talking, and then she just hands her this pregnant belly to strap on.

I don't know what it was, but that kind of freaked me out. Oh, really? Then they kind of like segued into, to all the pictures that Chanel Ion has done for Lisa. And she's like, I haven't actually taken a picture of myself pregnant, at least like professionally, since this one. And then she shows like when she was pregnant with her son.

That was a professional picture. That wasn't. It was just like candid shot. Yeah. But then you look over and there's like four or five of these pregnant bellies like sitting around and then later in the episode. There's eight. Like who's got the pregnant belly this time?

And I'm like, oh my God, these things kind of freak me out. I don't know what it is. Something's unnatural about it. and I like I got a little skeved out I'm not going to laugh like what the hell is this thing is this like an underlying issue like should we get into it like do we need a therapy corner I think now what I'm going to do is I'm going to look at people on the street and be like is that a pregnant belly or is that a real one oh you're assuming that yeah I think people might just I don't know are you going to go up to women and ask if you can touch their pregnant belly the fact that there's fake pregnant bellies out there well hold on did you think that like there was not yeah Yeah, no, I thought that any picture, like a fashion picture of maternity clothing, like Lane Bryant or whatever, I thought that was an actual pregnant woman. So at no point in your brain, not once. Did you put together like, oh, that might be a prosthetic?

Not once. Wow. Yeah, so seeing the like four of them just grouped together in a corner, like what the fuck is that? Four. I didn't like that. Oh, my God. I like that they didn't have enough so that they had to like get off the fashion stage. and, like, rip off the belly and give it to another girl.

Oh, my God. And that thing's got to be sweaty, too. Like, it's, you know, it's hot. It's, like, a rubber thing that you're strapped into your stomach walking down a runway with all these lights on you. You're probably sweating a little bit. Maybe not sweating your makeup off, but underneath the clothing, you're sweating. You're going to strap on this sweaty thing and then slap it on someone else's belly.

Like, what the fuck? You were really concerned about, like, did you even see what was happening? I may have missed actual things in the show because I was. so fixated on the fake pregnant belly i don't i don't you know say what you will but freaked me up that scene reminded me of in the water boy when they don't have enough cups to go around so like the guy runs off the field like takes the cup out of his jockstrap and hands a oh yeah exactly the same thing yeah that's the same that's not the same thing it's not remotely it's worse what no the pregnant belly is not worse yeah yeah okay yeah i was gonna say but um back

back to back to the episode what a tangent But we're going to have to check back in on that, make sure you're, like, mentally okay. But I did think it was interesting. Lisa's talking about the start of Mina Roe and, like, how she came up with the idea. And she went to her husband for an investment and, like, backing. And he gave, like, the most backhanded compliment I've ever heard when he agreed to be an investor. And he's actually the CFO of the company now. He said, I believe in you.

I'm giving you this money because I believe in you I'm like wow fuck yeah I don't believe in your business I believe in you yeah it's it is a backhanded compliment but it's also like

if this was a third party that asked for an investment from me I wouldn't even look at it because why would I get my money tied up in that well I don't know I mean if they came with like there's obviously money to be made with eternity clothing but

I just think it's like your significant you another slash now business partner and financial backer, if you're going to go into this company, I would at least fake it and be like, I believe in you and this is a great idea. Not, I don't believe in this, but here's some money because I believe in you. I think that like I wanted to maybe at that moment give him a little bit of the benefit of the doubt and just maybe think that he misspoke or the way that it was cut made it seem a little bit wrong. You said it twice.

I know. Well, that's the problem is the first time it came through, I was like, oh, maybe he just means, like, I believe in you so much that I don't care what you bring to me. I will always back you. So that's how I wanted to take it. But then he got on stage later in the episode. And he said, if I don't make these payments, the bills don't get paid without me. Yeah, he said, I have no say in like anything.

I just pay the bills. Yeah. So pretty much, like, again, like, this is all possible because of me. I don't have any say in the clothing, but like, you're welcome. I thought it was a, it was a weird. thing like yeah sure he can invest all he wants but there was a weird thing to start off a maternity fashion show with some dude some guy right I know he's the CEO why wouldn't Lisa go I get at the end you know the designer comes out I think typically the end of fashion shows the designer comes

out gets the round of applause blah blah blah whatever you go from there but like I don't know maybe have Ion go out there like ion's been there since day one like she helped her with everything and she's been like the face of it essentially at least you have like the face of Dubai fashion yeah she is the model in Dubai like and she loves to hear herself talk yeah like it's a win win like she should clearly lead the show up absolutely a dude and then give everybody in the audience a gift a fake rubber pregnant belly no no no absolutely not she like have have the have ion go out there and give everybody a gift and then everybody gets together and stews it up oh my god we have I have to think you brought it up.

I'm cutting to it real quick. Yeah. Come back. Did you see what she gave Brooks as a gift? It was weird when she walked. I mean, I thought it was actually kind of funny because she walked in with, it looked like an instant pot.

I thought that was kind of fun because she was like carrying it. Like I couldn't imagine carrying like a ninja pot or whatever like on my head. Like an instant pot on your head? Yeah. No. It doesn't seem efficient. Yeah. She gets there and like opens up the pot and I was like, holy shit.

It's lemons. I thought it was potatoes at first, but I'm colorblind to ship. If it was potatoes, then my theory would be 100% solid that Ion just gifts all of her friends an item to make this goat stew and then they come together and like that's how they end the season. But lemons, you know, it's a stretch, but you can definitely add lemon. It still works. It definitely works. And more importantly, what would you make stew in? That's true.

A pot. You'd make it in a pot. And to go back to the goat that she gave. Lisa, the goat got out. We get filled in on, like, the goat's life now. They are keeping the goat. They're feeding the goat. The goat had diarrhea.

So they changed the goat's diet. He's only eating organic, according to the husband. It's great. Yeah, I mean, good for the goat. I just, I'm afraid we're going to grow an emotional attachment to the goat. And then they're going to eat the goat. There was, like, one thing that Lisa did say about the goat getting out that I thought was kind of funny, like, very realistic to what goes on around here. she went on her Facebook group for her neighborhood in Dubai and said,

has anybody seen a goat? And like, that's probably not the weirdest thing that anybody's ever asked in that group. No. But it's still very funny to be like, oh, so there's a neighborhood group for Concha Hocken for Lafayette Hill, for Philly, and Dubai neighborhoods. It was really funny to me. And I'm like, oh, yeah.

All right, I guess they used Facebook over there too. Our neighborhood group gets up in arms about fireworks, and I love it. A bunch of our neighbors shoot them off frequently. and like, I don't care, like whatever. Yeah, but you're not letting goats loose on the street. I think, I mean, I don't even think I would get mad about that. I would definitely go on. I'd go out looking.

Hey, guys. Top three things that I'd go out looking for. A dog's missing in my neighborhood. I'm going to go out and take a look. There. A goat's missing in my neighborhood. I'm off the couch and running outside with the finish. Oh, no, I agree with organic carrots.

Back to the show. We're, uh, they're still chatting and they're going over their models. Ion brought a bunch of her, I guess, model friends, or she went out and just found models for hire. And they want to get a very different variety of women, which is great. But the way that Ion says plus-sized model, she calls them supersized models.

Yeah. And not once, but twice and has to get checked. and like then it goes to how she's been getting better at English and like she just learned the word verbatim and she's like give me that money verbatim which I loved I know that's not the correct use of the word but I'm probably going to use verbatim in that way from now on yeah it's like when we're in high school and we get those little uh little orange notebooks full of vocab words we're just trying to oh I like this word I'm going to try to work it into conversation that's what Ion's doing yeah give me my dinner verbatim

like it's got some umph to it yeah it definitely does and she can definitely manipulate those words into working no matter what it means no she makes it work and i i appreciate that and i'm just excited to use verbatim out of context for sure the foreseeable future so if you talk to me if you know me and you talk to me in the near future and you hear me drop a verbatim just go with it yep just play along just know what i make me really happy and come up to me and use verbatim out of context and i i you'll make my day. Perfect. So I'm really hoping somebody walks up to me in the gym now and says, like,

that was a great class, verbatim, any of those things, whatever. Pre-class. Yeah. Immediately. Okay, hold on. I can't offer that. Sponsored by Vision Fitness. No, maybe like a cool crisp high five.

That's what you get. But then we go to Stanberry is in Atlantis, and then I thought they were like in the Atlantis that I know of in like the Bahamas. Oh, not like deep in the ocean? like under the sea at the actual atlantis i'd mean that there's fuck you there's another atlantis in Dubai and they get in their hotel room and um that's probably the nicest sweet I've ever seen in my life it was cool they had creepy though when that scuba diver came oh that was terrifying yeah I would you forget to close the window and you take a you take a shower

you come out I figured I'd say take a shit that too I mean I don't know what are you most vulnerable like just after taking a shower or just before a shower or during poop yeah you walk out scuba diver staring at you maybe he has a sign up that says good log i i think i'd be more uncomfortable if i looked up dropping a deuce and there was a scuba diver staring at me than if i jumped out of the shower like whoa whoa but i would like to look into like some complaints from customers being like we were my husband and i were getting ready to have sex and all of a sudden this scuba diver came by and he would not leave us alone he was pretending to clean the window for an hour and a half i would love that way it was going to be a five-star review but there was a man scuba diving

outside of our window for the entirety of the trip don't these scuba divers usually wear scuba suits this guy was naked sans scuba diver really cool room like the way that it like the staircase on the way down you get the bedroom down there and then you get the fish just going by constantly like that's the problem is I would love to like sleep and leave that window open to watch the fish but now knowing that there's a scuba diver foot like absolutely not no I wouldn't trust it but they have also like an incredible spread they got like four pizza there's like eight people in the room there's four pizzas like 15 hamburgers like I love the Americanized food in Dubai it's crazy like Nina always gets French fries she was an asshole about she was an asshole but like I love french fries so if I was going to Dubai I'd be like like all right like what kind of food like I'd be excited to eat some of the food and I'd be like all right you know what I'm really craving right now is a hamburger have that they do have that so like that is nice to know because I do know like when I lived in Australia like the one thing I

best was like real America's you would even go to um like the McDonald's down there like they call it mechas go down to macas get get a big mech um it was vegemite oh they vegamite's gross I did try that too but uh like even their burgers like everything doesn't It's just different. Yeah. Like, it doesn't taste quite, like, the real thing. And, like, I do appreciate that in Dubai. If they're doing that everywhere, it's got to be close.

And, like, they have Mexican food there. Like, they went to that Mexican restaurant that first night for the girls' night out or whatever. So I like that they have multiple cuisines there. Like, that's cool. But while they're eating, they're talking to each other, and they're, like, talking about how they got off on, like, the wrong foot. And it quickly turns into. like a one-upping match of like who cared less about the other person until they realized like oh but we like could get along it's like they keep going it's like yeah I really didn't like

want to give you the time of day because you know you're not really I didn't seem like my cup of tea and the other one yeah yeah like I didn't make I don't really give people any attention whatsoever if I like don't care about them right they're like they just keep going back and forth about like who gave less shits about the other person I thought that was hilarious like just trying to bring it back like but now we're friends but they just keep shitting on the other person before they knew them. Yeah. And I was, for one, extremely happy that Serge wasn't there.

I was thrilled. We actually got, Stanberry's daughter was there and she was referring to Serge like, well, he's not actually going to be like, you're not like really marrying him. He's not like actually my stepdad, like things like that, like kind of like joking about the guy. Because let's be honest, he's like, what, 12, 13 years older than her daughter? Like, yeah. If that. So like, what is he, 29?

I think she's 16, I think he's 28. Yeah, so like, yeah, she's already disrespecting him. And when she said, like, you're not really marrying him, I was like, green card marriage. That's like, yeah, I think everybody knows it and they're accepting it and it's fine. I think that is becoming more and more apparent. And, you know, we asked the question last week, like, what does he get out of it? Well, he gets a fortune. Like, he gets an easy life and just a shitload of Stanberry's money.

Yeah. I thought it was like, wild. she condones Sergio having a baby with another woman. She's like, he can have a baby with somebody else. Like, ha, ha, ha. And they all laugh, like, oh, ha. And fast forward to that scene where they're, like, with Sergio later, like, he's just, like, a punching bag. He really is.

And everyone disrespect. No one respects the guy, not even the kids. They're making fun of him. Like, the scene in which they're like, oh, like, you know, he's got such a good relationship with my kids. Like, no, they're laughing at him because he's getting attacked by what I think it's a lying squirrel. Yeah. Like, again, he's getting, like, ridiculed and mocked.

Like, that's not love. Like, he's a jester. He's, like, a, like, an entertainment piece for the whole family. It's like, I'm starting to feel bad for Sergio. Like, I don't want to watch him. Like, he's not interesting. Yeah, I don't want to see what he does in his free time. No, I don't think he does anything.

Honestly, I think he, like, grabs her coat tail and, like, follows behind her. Yeah. But, like, he just gets completely emasculated, like, over and over and over again. And just, like, ha, ha. last it off. Like, hey, man, like, stand up for yourself. You don't have to take this shit just because she, like, pays your bills. But we have a lunch with Ion, Lisa Brooks.

We talked about the lemons. They kind of squash all their shit. I did think it was really funny. Lisa's wearing, this is the second time we've had a Chanel earring mishap. The first one was Luann from Roney. He used one of my acronyms. Roney wore the Chanel earrings, but wore them backwards. So it was Nelsha.

We had the second coming of Nelsha. Lisa put the earrings on backwards. So I thought that was a really funny callback. But they're talking about the goat. They're talking about the lemons. It's really awkward because they're not getting to like the point. And then finally, Ion starts talking about like how she was feeling and like what went on at the dinner with Nina's dinner. And Ion said that she felt like singled out.

because she was the only one that wasn't invited at that party. And she thought it was weird that Brooks would, like, bring that up and, like, throw that at her, which I agree. Like, that's a situation in which if she's not invited and you are allegedly friends with her, like, don't just don't bring it up. Yeah. You know, like, just. Or don't bring it up like that. Like, you can bring it up, but say, like, I'm really sorry that you didn't get invited. I can talk to Stanberry if you want to.

Like, give her the option. Just be like, like, I'm friends with you. I'm friends with Stanbury. Like, let me. Let me just try to negotiate something and just be like, look, like, why is she not invited? And then you'll get an answer. And if you don't, or if you just don't want to go, then that's cool too. Right.

But then, like, at least you have an attempt at smoothing it over. Yeah. Versus, like, causing shit intentionally and then be like, what happened? Like, acting like it wasn't your fault. And then they talk about how they can, like, bury the hatchet between the two. And Lisa speaks up and says, Chanel's not. apologizing. Like, Ion's not

apologizing for shit. We need Stanberry to come to apologize to her. And Chanel says, she's 50. I'm still a child. Yeah. That's why she has to come

apologize to me because she's 50 and I'm a child. It was a good day. It's a funny comment. But, um, it is kind of cool to see, like somebody who has a past on Bravo,

who has been like a very polarizing image. Coming into Dubai and really taking like a back. seat. I think she is taking a backseat intention. I don't think she fucking cares. It's like she's collecting a paycheck. She's so not interesting. She's so like blah on the screen. She doesn't say anything funny. She doesn't attempt. She doesn't even go to the fashion show. I don't care how bad housewives are feuding in the past in any show. Like you still show up. They show up. And I almost feel like producers are like, yeah, you have to go. And she's like, I don't care. I really think she doesn't.

and like apparently a lot of people say like during her last season of ladies of London like she was checked out and then she left the show before it ended but i just i she doesn't do it for me at all like i'm not interested when she's on the screen and she also means that sergio might be on the screen like i don't want to watch him he's boring as hell yeah so it's just it's an interesting route she's taking like to not even attempt to grab a storyline or not even attempt to be like that polarizing figure that I think a lot of people were hoping that she would be and I think that's partly why this season is like it's not super exciting to watch and I think no and they need like co-signing when it comes to it like I saw for the first time like I saw

Andy Cohen actually tweet like I love Real Housewives of Dubai these ladies are all superstars and I've never seen him so like bluntly say like I love like he would never have to say I Beverly Hills. These ladies are all superstars because everybody's watching and they know. You think he's like fishing for viewers? Yeah, I think so. I mean, like you got to understand like Andy Cohen gets paid more when everything's doing really well. So if there's a couple of duds out there, which Dubai definitely could be, he doesn't want that to happen. So he wants people to watch and hopefully, hopefully it works out. Hopefully it ends up being pretty good. I want it to be good. I just,

I think they need to get away from trying to highlight how amazing. and fancy Dubai is like we got it. Yeah, we're already over that. Yeah, the interest there is gone. Like, I know it is. Like, that's the world in which we are living in when that show comes on. Like, we're present in that. So move on from showing us why we should be so enamored and just, like, get to the,

the gritty stuff. Like, let me see the fights. Let me see the drama play out. Let me see some of that stuff. But we go to, like, Sarah's getting, like, a wardrobe outfit for a fashion, or sorry for a photo shoot, and then she goes over where she got her start, and I said I would eat my words if I had to, and this is me eating my words. She started being a fashion designer at 15, and I rudely claimed that she was selling her ceramics

from ceramics class, so that's my bad. Well, she did say that she started selling candy bars to her family. Right, but I would imagine that was like, five or six seven years old yeah she was probably like seven years old doing that kept that money and then rolled it and we don't know if i assume she probably came from some sort of money so she definitely had a leg up on other people but to be at 15 and being a fashion designer you know what is she like 30 so like 15 years ago credit where credits do in Dubai like that's that's a hard market to break into i'm sure right so okay i'll eat my words my bad

the Mineral Fashion Show, and I thought, you know, again, my, my fashion sense when it comes to fashion shows is zero, but I thought the dresses look great. You know, we have the fake pregnant bellies. I thought were a great touch. Horrifying. But the show goes off really well. I mean, again, we already talked about introing with her husband coming out, which was dumb, but show goes well I got to touch now on Nina's French fry thing like stop fucking asking the guy for French fries

She asked that guy like three or four times And then she ended it with make it happen Make it happen Like who the fuck are you? Yeah like shut the hell out You're only sitting in the front row here Because you're friends with Or I guess a colleague at this point of Lisa

So like You don't talk to people like You're the richest person there There were plenty other ones. I did think it was kind of funny. And like you don't really see this, but panning through the crowd, I don't know if it was like hookas or everybody's just vaping. But like it was really funny to see like just women and men like hanging out out there just like ripping a vape or ripping a hoopa hookah. And just like, where are we?

Like why? I thought that was funny. It made it seem less like, oh, wow, Dubai. And like more like you stumbled on to like some weird fashion show that people were just like ripping. heaters like in well you would see like yeah in philly well it's funny because like you go to like france or something like everybody in france spoke cigarettes so like at the french fashion show like paris fashion show maybe there you'd be like oh that makes sense but but they would never allow that so it is kind of funny to see like people just openly vaping or something in that

clouds in Dubai like i did i thought that was funny too it's funny you brought that up but um Sarah had like a really funny humble brag she's like well in the fashion show like this is really beautiful and elegant but backstage like where it happens like okay we get it like you've been in fashion like you've done your thing I thought that was like well Brooks also said like and and to go briefly back to the um the the session that she had with stanberry at her um fuck um and going back to the session that she had with Stanberry back with getting her work done. She says if you want to you want somebody to tell you how to get work done, go talk to Sarah. Yeah.

Because she's gotten it from head to toe. And then you get like one brief before picture of what she used to look like, I guess pre-nose job. And then what she looks like down. You're like, oh, okay. Yeah, she got it done. That's good. Like she got good work done. Yeah, she got good work done.

And like, who gives a fuck? Like, who doesn't get work done? Like sometimes I do feel like the women in this show like grasp. little bit for straws like here and there just to she's trying to find something like I think and I think that's one of the flaws of Dubai is like they're trying

to be that they're not just letting it happen organically like they're they're forcing the issue which is becoming more and more apparent and like that's a turn off when you're watching the show because like you want it to be genuine you want to hear something funny and outlandish and you want it off the cuff you don't want

lines that were seemingly written down like I'm going to say this in my confessional Like, I think that's where the issues lie. That brings us to the meat and potatoes, what we're all here for. Rob, Beverly Hills, baby. We're back, and I'm going to keep forcing those acronyms. But I just noticed for the first time, but you know Dorettes in the middle standing next to Kyle on the intro? Yeah.

I didn't know that. Yeah. I always take note of that. well I do too I just I guess I assumed it would be like Kyle and Renna so I didn't really pay attention yeah it's not yeah that that was crazy to me but um we start out at the hotel um and we get a brief phone call from Moe Kyle's talking to Mo and that's when I realized like I need more Mo in my life like I love Mauricio I think he's fucking gold he's awesome and we haven't gotten him one time this season we got him only in the deride aftermath yeah like very

Briefly, like, I want some more, Mo and P.K. When they're getting lit, like, great duo. Yeah, it's the best. Yeah, so like. Like, when they were ripping Denise Richards' boyfriend last year. Oh, my God. Well, no, they did that a couple years. No, they would.

I think it was last year. Yeah, that was Erica last year. They were ripping him. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, when he went to the doctor, like, oh, no, not the brain. Yeah. Check the ankle. Like, which, by the way, spot on PK impression.

You're welcome. Then we get on to, um, they're going over. Everyone's getting ready for the night, and we're highlighting everybody's glam squad. They all travel with their glam squad. Like, Erica even comments, like, no matter how bad it is, like, you need your glam squad. Mind you, something came out. Erica owes $2.2 million in taxes that she cannot pay, but she can afford a fucking glam squad to travel with her. This just came out.

I just saw this. But of course, we go to Crystal, no glam squad. Which I thought was fine. No, it's a fucking choice. that is one hundred percent of choice but like it goes back to and i'm trying to separate some things from crystal like she pisses me off she's kind of annoying she's full of shit half the time but like when she's driving past the outlets with diana she makes a comment she says i always shop with the outlets conscious of money then she does this it's like all right yeah like do i need

a full glam squad to come down here no i can do this myself but if that was genuine okay cool that's not genuine like we're talking about someone who in the first season didn't seem to have any moment where she was talking about being relatable with money and stuff like that like she's carrying a hundred thousand dollar burkin bag i'm not saying she's not money conscious but she's clearly trying to be an audience favorite she's trying to get into our favor like hey i'm just like you guys and i don't think that it's true i don't think it's real i think that she made a decision not to travel with a glam squad and i think that she's like highlight this like show people i don't do this well to be fair like er like you said erika travels with the glam squad did she look like

she had a full team no she put on an oversized button-up shirt it looked like oh it looked like yeah the dinner like a like a miami coke dealer that or what i said was she looked like the the cup the paper cup from the 90s oh which is not a bad look no actually have steel wore a romper last year it's on our account yeah yeah so like yeah it was just odd like they all look great when they get done up for the most part some of them have glam squads some of them don't use them and they all end up like looking the same i guess maybe it makes things easier but you're paying there's a shit of money for that so a lot oh you know just to get back to it real quick i thought erika looked like johnny depp and blow that's a good one yeah that's that's like what i what i thought of

first but um they're they're hanging out they're eating again and sutton's eating bacon again yep and diana calls her out and i saw a poll and watch what happens last like is Diana reading too much into the bacon thing and like 70% of people said yes but Kyle said something that I agree with this is the whole point behind it is like it's not about the bacon it's about the statement it makes like in comparison to everything else she does you do one thing and you say another like that's what I see I'm like okay well yeah she's eating bacon like is that a big deal no I don't fucking care what she eats but speaking to her character which she always wants to bring up as her character like

you're saying one thing and doing another and we have a lot of issues with you allegedly saying one thing and doing another over and over again so that's when I see that I'm like there's physical proof that you do one thing but you say other things like that's for me what that means and so in this case would you say you are what you eat she's a pig no she's not a pig yeah I would in this case you are what you eat like if you're eating bacon you're not a vegetarian don't say you are I did think of like yeah like you said that Kyle interconfessional was like talking about how it's a spitting image of who Sutton is as a person I thought it was actually like kind of a funny moment like they all kind of like laughed it off and that was good

yeah and then I just kind of like it was a funny moment move on boom done I'm glad they didn't make a bigger thing of it because I'm tired of people reading too much into little things like move on from some of the shit so yes i agree with that but then immediately of course we get back to doryt she's hyperventilating again like we're drawn back into this whole situation and she says like i called pk and almost went home and i'm like then go home yeah like why are you to hear yeah like and i get that you have a contractual obligation like you need to be there but like if you're actually that terrified like for him to even situation suggest, like, why don't you go away without me again to Mexico and hang out?

Like, that's already, like, a big ask for someone that's going to trauma. It does seem like PK doesn't really know how to handle it, which is, like, it's fine. I mean, if we're taking it at face value and we're not saying that Doreet's kind of like playing this up for the cameras, Pekai doesn't really know what to do. He's like, all right, you want to stay home with me. You're still freaking out. Do you want to go to Mexico? You're freaking out.

Like, no matter where he sends her or has her, she's still doing the same thing and, like, not breaking out of this. But it goes to say that, like, Doreet needs to put herself in a better situation. If you're going to be hyperventiling because you're by yourself and you're afraid for your life. Later in the episode, Rina and Erika are in the same room getting ready. And Rina goes, well, yeah, because Erica's room's directly above mine. Right. Then fucking call someone, Doreet. Like, someone's, it's a hotel.

Someone will come over. I don't care who it is. Like, someone will come over and. and sit with you or Renna will have you in her room or here's a fucking idea same thing I said last week get a joint room get a huge suite with two bedrooms yeah so that you're never actually alone go to Kyle's room the girls have said like multiple times to read if you need someone like why didn't you just tell us yeah she like actively doesn't call them that's why I just think that she's like full of shit with this at this point because it's like stop playing it up so much

stop telling everybody that you're hyperventilating when you have the means to defeat this issue or at least address it in a more constructive manner that's all she has though that's all she talks about now and it's like i think that she is buying into that it's so captivating that she can lean on it the whole season because it's such a traumatic event but it's like you have done the impossible you've made us unsympathetic to you being robbed a gunpoint yeah we get back to erika's shit a little bit um she was she brought up by herself like a a legal file or legal case that came up against her where they called her a bully, which she wears like a badge of honor.

Like she starts getting this like weird tough guy attitude. And I don't know if again, she's so far removed from the federal suit or like where she was facing like the actual government or jail time. And now that it's civil suits, it's different. Yeah. Now she's starting to get like weirdly tough about it. And she's like, yeah, like I'm a bully.

Like they likened her to Tom Girardi in that manner. And she wasn't like, oh, like trying to separate. She's like, oh, I like that. Yeah, no, she did that twice. She talked about, like, on the heels of that conversation, Sutton was like, you know, I don't even think Sutton brought it up. I think Kyle said, well, why don't you talk to Sutton about that? Because Sutton's going to be a lawyer, like jokingly because Sutton said that she was going to take the LSAT, like, as a joke during the, which Sutton is relatively smart.

She's crazy and, like, all over the place, but, like, she's pretty intelligent. I would imagine she's intelligent. Yeah, she can probably do it. But then it goes into Erica saying, well, yeah, you know, Tom showed me how to take the bar or Tom graded the bar, which is problematic, which Garcell's like Tom Girardi graded the bar. Like, shit, that's bad. Every lawyer that he passed. Absolutely. And it was a weird moment where like Sutton said something to Erica about like, is that how you should talk in a courtroom?

room like because it's definitely not like you don't want to be that person like you don't want to be associated with being a bully and to go to like pop culture right now that seems like Amber heard like the way that she was talking to her in her trial so like you don't want to come off like that in a civil lawsuit you want to come off as like I have no fucking idea what's going on I am also not as much of a victim as you guys but I'm still a victim of this like I don't play that card a little bit more and then get it over with and move on with your life and then get back to this like doing it now seems like odd timing but it was odd to see

like Sutton and Erica have back and forth that wasn't me Erica offered to help her study which was odd I was like all right maybe we're maybe we're getting into some good terms here and then right away the table falls silent when that happens everyone's like what everybody's face

was like what is this a nice interaction what the fuck was that what's happening like that help reason except Garcell is kind of like like she's she knows is the best because she doesn't like hide anything no she just reacts how we all react. Like, oh, Jesus, like, this isn't real. But Rina is then talking and she's kind of like talking about how she's moving on a little bit. She's getting through it. Like, Lois passing.

And I'm not taking away from the sentiment. I'm not taking away from what it means to her. And I'm glad that this is something that she can find some peace in. But her medium is an asshole. She tells her, look for flocks of birds. I mean, not to be insensitive, but, like, you're in L.A. Like, walk outside. There's going to be a flock of birds. And maybe the medium was being, like, conscientious and, like, understanding that she's going through a hard time. Like, oh, let me help her, like, ease this.

Yeah, I think that's what that was. Like, look around you. Your mom is all around you. Yeah, which is sweet. But if she was being, like, trying to come off as, like, a sidekick and, like, oh, like, look for flocks of birds. Like, give her, like, a specific bird then. Then it's, that's what I think. Walk outside in L.

And if you see a Tesla, your mom's thinking of it. Right. Like, it's just, it's a very broad thing to tell her to look for. But I thought it was sweet. She found a bird in her bathroom bag. And, like, if it gives her, like, peace, then, yeah, obviously it's a great thing. For sure. I just thought that it was, like, a pretty generalized statement.

Like, look for birds. Like, okay, we're in L.A. Like, you're going to see a bird. But, like, Rinn is doing the opposite of Doreate. Like, this is how you. Yeah. Her mom just died unexpectedly, and she's handling it like a champ. Yeah, and does she bring it up frequently?

No, it's not her only personality now. No, she does other things. We're getting more Rino, like, playing both sides, like knowing things about Crystal and not playing her cards because it doesn't suit her in that moment, which is fine. And then you kind of like get on both sides, find out all the information, and then kind of play it along. And that's what Lisa does best. And that's what she's doing now. like her entire personalities and that her mom just died and I respect the shit out of her for not because

I mean I it's still recent enough in our world that I would understand if she was like a total shell like she has every right to be but she's to her credit like speaking about how Lois would want it that way like go live your life like there are good days which is okay and there's bad days which is okay like good for you like I don't it's definitely refreshing to see that when it's juxtaposed to Dorek going through her shit and how she's handling. But we have a beach day with the ladies. We're down at the beach.

Everyone's kind of doing the thing. Half the girls end up going surfing. And the other half end up going to a boutique slash bar. Mita, Mita, I believe it was called. Mita Mita. I thought that place looked pretty cool. I did too. I like the idea of like grab a margarita and walk around.

think that it's a good business plan. For sure. Get them drunk and then sell them our shit. Like, yeah, it's a great idea. I thought it was interesting. Like, Diana has very relatable moments and I don't know if it's intentional. I think it is. I think she's calculated in every single thing she does.

But she has relatable moments where she's talking about she's just swimming in the ocean. They get a shot her for like underwater like coming up. Like it's this very majestic shot. And it's like cut to her talking about like I never thought, you know, however many years ago in Sarajevo that this would ever be possible like I'd be swimming in this beautiful water at this beautiful resort and it's like

oh that's sweet and then I'm immediately like nah yeah like she didn't go surfing with the girls she went on her own and went swimming around yeah like I don't know I don't know I think it's calculated but I thought that the girl's surfing was fucking hysterical and I thought that it was even funer when Rinna's like I'm a risk taker it's like

you're surfing at a five-star resort in Mexico like you're not yeah if there was any like real risk they wouldn't let you go out there like they would be sued for millions of dollars like they're probably apprehensive period about letting you ladies surf and it's not even risky yeah but i thought that was like i'm a risk taker it's like all right like it's a stretch but while the ladies are on the way to meet amita they were having a conversation about how kyle bought land and this is the only reason i'm bringing this up it's not that interesting of a moment, but I have a question for you.

So her and Mo bought a bunch of land out of Mexico in the area that they're in. Sirameda, I think that's the name of the place, is Sir Mita. And they were going to build this, like, beautiful house on the land, but their neighbor found an alligator in their pool. Yeah.

And someone offered them money for the land, and she's like, sell it, sell it, sell it. Would an alligator in a pool would be a deterrent for you having, like, a Mac Daddy mansion on the beaches of Mexico. No chance in hell. This is the problem that I guess they went into it thinking like, oh, there might be an

iguana or something wandering around. Like it didn't even occur to, I think Mo probably knew. He 100%. So Kyle didn't. I want to know like, all right, so how much did you buy it for? And then how much did you sell for? Because she said they offered us a lot of money. I don't think so.

Above what we. No way. You think that they just like boom in and out. She had a fucking shit fit. Yeah. And she's like, I'm not living. here. Period. There are ways to protect your pool from an alligator. Yeah, you know what the way is? A good way to do it? A fence? No. When your dumbass said that you could make it colder in a pool by having

a screened-in patio, you know what that will not do? Cool down your pool. You know what it will do? It'll keep alligators out. It'll definitely keep an alligator or two out. But to your point as well, like what do you, why do you want to have something like that? Now, this isn't Dubai. It doesn't get to 120 degrees. It's Mexico. What are you talking about? It's not 120. It's definitely hotter in Dubai. Well, I grew up in Texas frequently. Like, it's hot as, that's not, that's not Dubai. Oh, I don't, okay. You didn't see any blocks of ice being dumped into the pool. It's a desert, bro. It's a desert. Near an ocean. So what? Ocean breeze. Dubai's near an ocean. It's near a lake.

This is exhausting sometimes. Yeah, you got to get it right. We're back. We're doing kind of the cut scenes now. We got the two groups talking about what happened at the dinner. Erica is incessantly trying to rile up Crystal. Like, she won't leave it alone. She was, like, feeding off of Crystal's emotion.

Like, I was, there was one point where she got super close to Crystal and was like, I, like, you don't really see Erica hug anybody that often. So, like, it was weird to see. She put her arm around her and got really close. And I'm like, is she going to, like, fucking lick Crystal's tears? Like, is she just, like, I think she was loving every second of it. She was because it was burying Sutton. It's just turning more people against Sutton.

But, like, we just had that moment where I thought things were going to get glossed over a little bit or smoothed over. And no, Eric was just playing both sides to try to, like, I think she's trying to take the spotlight. She was so done with being center stage from last year. I think she's trying to throw everybody. she can out of the bus and just like cause as much shit as she can but but it got a good reaction from diana that's what i was going to bring up like in turn like we finally see erika is number one on who diana is going to pick i think diana's still well i think diana still is a really big soft spot for uh for crystal yeah but she's like she just looked like this like

cute little puppy like in a corner that's my thing it's not a mutual respect no not at all i need to take care of this person yeah it's like a motherly instinct almost erika we're seeing them potentially forming a union where she's like, oh, like, I kind of get this one. I'm warming up to her. Like, later in the episode during dinner when shit's popping off again. And Erica's fucking badgering. Oh, my God.

Like, relentless. Like, thank God for Garcel to step in and be like, Erica. You're bugging the shit out of me. Like, enough. Stop it. But Diana gets done crying at that dinner and looks at Erica and says, love you and gives her like a kiss like love you

and Erica says love you too but everybody else was like shut the fuck up Erica like enough like even her friends were like enough but Diana's buying it Diana's buying it when the Diana crying was bullshit that wasn't like oh no that was she forced herself to yeah without a doubt and we'll get to that in a minute do we really think that someone like Sutton could make Diana cry

no no I don't think so but before we get there before we get there before we get there um we're talking the ladies are talking about we're with kyle's group and like you know she'd heard about crystal too and like crystal had a falling out we have an actual number which i think is actually yeah 14 a little bit less proof i don't think that an actual number like makes it more concrete i think that's no it's it's just it if anything it just shows that they've all heard it like lisa said that last episode she's like i've heard the grumblings too Kyle said that she's heard it specifically like Garcell agrees but maybe she didn't hear

but like there's there's a group of people in Beverly Hills and like rumor spread pretty quickly and it is kind of telling that like yeah you're you're friends with 14 people for years and then you just get dropped like a sack of potatoes yeah by 14 different women that's like that's that's all signs point to something's wrong with crystal especially if we're seeing this similar behavior kind of pop up and that goes back to when she's like crying at the bar with Erica. She's like, am I just an easy target? Like she's leaning into the victim card so hard.

Well, she also probably sees there's no reason for me to continue to be friends of Sutton. If I'm getting Diana stepping in and like protecting me, Eric is now stepping in for her hatred of Sutton into my realm. Like maybe I was wrong to do this publicly and try to get everybody. Like I think she, Crystal might even think like what she did worked. Like she's getting people coming over to her and checking to make sure she's okay. Yeah. And they're going to back her.

She has become the main storyline this year. So like maybe like this was her plan all along. But she's like, you know, I get walked all over and this and that's like you started this. Like you're the one that brought it back up. Like it was squashed until you made a reference to it. And like everyone knows where we stand on it. But just to address something that came out, there was a TikTok video of a girl that said that she was best friend. with Sutton's daughter and ended that friendship because Sutton was racist.

Interesting. Yeah. That could be true. I mean, it might not be true. Who knows? And like that, I'm sure that will probably become more apparent. Like, that'll probably get debunked or proven true one way or another. But that was interesting.

Now we have a counter to like an actual third party that's like, wait, no, this has some merit. So stay tuned. We're finally getting to the dinner. We're at Codex is the name of the spot. Crystal's wearing bird earrings. Diana's also wearing bird earrings in reference to Lois. Yep. Which I thought was sweet, sweet sentiment.

At least, you know, I don't care for Crystal, but at least you're backing up, Renna, giving her some support there, even if that was a move just to once again make people like you more, but whatever. I think Diana, same thing. Like, here we go. Like, the two most manipulative people, I think, on the show, like, the two that are trying to, like, weasel their way into friendships. or in Diana's case,

like trying to vet this whole group on who's going to be her best, like, ally. Like, they both lean in the sentimental card. It's just interesting. You know, maybe they're being nice, but I don't think so. But we get into finally more about Room 23. And Rinner brings it up because she's in it and she's talking about her pictures that,

I guess she's naked in them. I don't know. I'd never seen them. But, um, they're talking. talking about the book and Diana doesn't want any part of it. She's like, yeah, we already talked about this. We really didn't.

No, we didn't get into it at all. But like, no, we already talked about this. But then it cuts to my favorite cutscene of the year. They're talking to her and she's like, you know, this book is the reason that all these allegations came out against me because I guess people were claiming that the stories in the book were actually from her clients and her call girls, not from people that shared these. experiences just candidly in room 23 but her actual alleged like international sex trafficking

ring in which she's the madam now such a ridiculous rumor you think would be kind of just I guess alluded to throughout the season without ever being like hey is this true yeah no producer flat out asks her so you're not like the head of a sex trafficking ring and like a madam and she says no and obviously defends herself did she even say no i just saw her laugh it off she kind of i mean it was a interesting reaction honestly and she kind of that's when she goes into like this book comes out and like it was supposed to be this big deal for me and i spent all this money on it and instead like it takes one allegation and like reddit and next thing you know make you're a villain but you know i don't know like her her storyline everything that goes

along with her. It's so interesting and like mysterious. I think producers were hoping that we'd get there kind of organically. Like let's put her in a room with these girls. Maybe we'll whisper into Kyle's ear or something. But like you can kind of see that the housewives are a little apprehensive to like dig too deep on Diana. Like just kind of keep her at small talk level. Like let's not get too into whatever's going on in her life. Like let's talk about what she wants to talk about. And I think the producers were like, all right, we're not getting what we wanted. Let's just do it ourselves. We're going to force the issue once again.

We're going to push these buttons because we're floundering at this point. Like we're repeating the same shit. Like we have this fucking atom bomb. Let's use it. Yeah. So they drop that. And I hope that it comes back. Maybe that's like the first time they're dropping it like as a little hint like,

hey, this is what to look forward to. Like I really hope that happens. But for now, you know, just allegations. But we'll see. Like that's such an interesting, just kind of piece to the whole puzzle. Sutton do it because like I said like I can't imagine any of the other like Eric is absolutely not going to do that because she wants to be in her good grace as Kyle I can't see doing it like Lisa's kind of backing off a little bit from it but I could absolutely see if we start getting what we

got tonight with Sutton and Diana like Diana saying things to Sutton and Sutton's just like I don't give like I'm not afraid of you I don't care she goes toe to toe with her and that's when it gets really interesting before that happens like she's getting into all of it she's getting heated again starts yelling at like pretty much everybody but crystal fucking contradicts herself once again Sutton says I heard this about you and she said you heard it you didn't see it yeah oh now words matter you heard it you didn't see it you heard it now when it's convenient for her the wording matters yeah you heard it but when it's not convenient for her wording doesn't matter that I was fucking like fuming when that

happen. I was like, how are you going to say something like that knowing your stance? Yeah. And I did kind of think that like everybody was badgering Sutton telling her, you get a weird dichotomy between Crystal and Sutton because they were badgering Crystal to be like, what, what happened? Like what made you feel this way? And Crystal like locked up. And then they were doing it to Sutton. Sutton's just like, I just want to move on. I just want to move on, which it's sort of looking like I think Sutton's probably afraid that she did say something it doesn't remember it whatever that's it yeah that's probably the case or she could have not said anything but she thinks that there's a chance that she said something because she's clumsy and

does says dumb shit all the time but you get like all the girls are badgering sutton to like get mad like yeah she lied about you like get pissed off and then she finally gets pissed off and starts yelling and then they're like all right sutton like what the fuck do you want like you want her to get riled up because she's pissed off that somebody's lying about her or do you want her to just sit there and not like I don't know what anybody wants and you get this like Rina and Erica get this look about them when Sutton flips out I wrote that in my notes it just goes I need a break goes away Kyle being team player goes in with Sutton Sutton's like having a fucking breakdown and she's like I just need to get the hell out of here and then she stops and

she's like nothing happens we're good I need a break boom done whatever great break but then you yeah you get this look from like Erica and Rina like smirking when Sutton leaves you're like what like what are you guys doing like they're riling certain people up pitting them against each other to get a good result so that they have some fun like on the outskirts to like go away but like ren is fine erika's just fucking annoying as shit like she i saw something that was really funny and it was it went back to the taglines we did the tagline freestyle and i think erika's is like i've got nothing to hide and nothing to lose and that makes me dangerous somebody changed the last word and it said that makes me desperate because she does she has like an air of desperation about

it where she's just like oh diana's a good thing let me do a bunch of shit to like impress diana but let me get involved to do that that worked but like she's kind of pissing off the viewers everybody's the viewers but i think in the world of erika jane like that's okay yeah because they're talking about her she would sacrifice the show for diana jenkins yeah i think so too really believe that and like to something you said earlier like Sutton makes diana cry yeah but then in a cut scene from next week diana's like she could have gotten headbutted like getting that close and like talking shit but it's like well i thought that she would rip her head off i was like oh you're going to go toe to toe with diana and diana cried

about it and i don't even really that's why i don't know like is she is she just crying because it makes her look a little more relatable or makes her look like but it was a weird moment to be crying because nothing had to do anything about you you were just talking to sutton And Sutton was getting riled up because she was getting pissed off and people keep asking about her character. So she went back at you and then you cried. And then you cried. And I thought the best clip of the night with that was like they're going through their bullshit afterwards, like the aftermath. Like Erica and Diana looks at Erica and says like I love you.

And like Erica says, I love you too, babe. Like whatever. Yeah. I have that random moment and like everyone's kissing each other's ass and like trying to squash it and like Sutton's back at the table. And Garcell's having none of it. Like, she's at the end of the table, like, scoffing. And, like, it cuts to her. And she's, like, sitting there with, like, this tall, like, clean glass of whiskey.

Just, like, oh, my God. Like, get the fuck out of here. Like, she's just done. Yeah. She's, like, literally looks like an old, like, baseball coach that just, like, has been in the minor leagues for 30 years and just lost another game. He's in his office just depressed with, like, a big glass of whiskey. Like, oh, Jesus Christ. Like, what are we doing here?

like fucking kill me I guess you know that kind of wraps up the episode but from what I'm reading online like on Instagram on you know the Bravo boards all that stuff like people are fed up like no one's enjoying like the recent seasons

of multiple franchises and like it's a shame because what we all fell in love with these shows for was like the good stuff and we're really getting next to none of it and like I don't really understand like the approach

people are taking on the shows, I think that they're leaning too much into, oh, she hurt my feelings and, oh, it's all just, it's seemingly petty. Well, it's funny because like they made fun of Crystal and called her like a Gen Zer and her emotions, but like they're, they're all doing it. I know. Everybody's getting quote unquote triggered. Everybody needs a safe space. Like they need like affirmation that like everything's okay. Yeah. Like we're friends or like she wronged you and she needs to own up to it. Like housewives of old, you admit no wrongs. Absolutely not.

You're not wrong ever. No matter what the fuck happens, no matter what you said, you stand by it, no regards. But that wraps it up. Do you have anything else? No. Got it all out. Well, thank you for tuning in, as always. Quick reminder, once again, we will be on hashtag no filter with Zach Peter on June 27th.

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