Bros & Shows - Secret Lives of Mormon Wives Episode 6 Full Recap

Episode Date: September 26, 2024

What's up Elder Bros? We are back with episode 6 of Mormon Wives and the gang is headed to Vegas! But before we head out, we got some issues to clear up. Dakota and Taylor are fighting. Again. And Taylor's mom gets involved pleading with the both of them to figure it out for the baby's sake. Meanwhile, Jessi is pissed because Dakota and Zak invited themselves on the trip 'in case Taylor goes in to labor' aka to keep on eye on their wives and girlfriends. Taylor and Dakota get into it as they're packing for the trip which leads to her kicking him out of the car. They try to hash things out at Zac and Jen Affleck's house but whats more alarming is that Zac and Jen can relate to all of the toxic issues going on in Taylor and Dakota's relationship... Everyone arrives in Vegas, the MomTok crew is pissed to hear that the boys have made the trip since it was supposed to be a girls trip. Jessi has a surprise for the group... and its Chippendales. Most of the crew is fine with it, but Jen, Mikayla and Taylor leave in an attempt to avoid the drama from their husbands. But it does not go well as Zac loses his mind over the girls being there (even though he's gambling with Jen's money whilst complaining) and Jen breaks down. Another instance of a double standard and the insecurity of some of these men is ridiculous. Let the ladies have some fun with some strippers for gods sakes.    Want more BravBros content? Join BravBros Members for exclusive weekly episodes, community zooms, housewives rewatches and more! Click the link below to sign up! thebros.memberful.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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And yes, I am a bitch. Brov bros. Hello, Elder Goots. My co-host, this is Elder Steele, joined as always by the one and only Elder Goots, and we are here to talk some secretly. Lives of Mormon wives episode number six correct six six six we are on no well that's bad four I said four I said four six is okay cool yeah we can't do a show about Mormons and start off a six six six that seems like bad juju yeah it's our show we can do whatever the hell we want around here but welcome

back to episode number six we are thoroughly enjoying this franchise but we just wrapped up episode number five so why don't we dive right into episode six or some fresh what let's get it let's get it skit it's get it skittie but we start out this episode uh with they're discussing the whitney fallout at the jiz salon and if you think it's anything else you're lying to yourself well you know it's even worse too because there's a line between j and z it looks like an eye it looks like an eye like you're you're making it worse well just lean into it at this point i know you should Maybe that's what she, maybe she knows what she's doing. I knows exactly.

She's like, yeah, so. I'm going to mention this episode one, so you don't forget it. That's good marketing. That is good marketing. But they're talking about the Whitney fallout at the Jiz salon, and this is where we find out that she's unfollowed everybody. We know that there's been some blockings. Some people have been blocked. She has unfollowed collectively, including Macy.

They didn't tell Macy. And the collective sigh from the group is just grow the fuck up. Yep. Grow up. Yeah, what else you want? Like, just get over it. Who cares? We know what you're trying to do.

You're just trying to play the sympathy card. You want people to check in on you. There was nothing going on. There was nothing wrong with what was going on. You just left the group chat. That's all you did. And you want people to check it on you? Oh, that's really sad.

So sad. Oh, no. You left a group chat? Your husband, no one cares. Did your husband shave his mustache? No, nobody cares. Nobody cares. You left the group chat, and they even,

call it out here. It's like this is an act and I'm over it. The group is over it. That's all the group chat thing did was give them one more reason to put that final nail in the coffin of look what she's doing. She's doing the same shit she's always done now. She's just doing it digitally. I'm not here for it. But you know

what we are here for? A JJ painting party is what I wrote down. That's, which look, we're going to touch on this quickly. Yep. We're going to move on from it because it was a main part of the episode, but not much for you and I'd say about it.

Honestly, they're Peyton J.Js because it's empowering. And the other part of it, the more pertinent part, I suppose, is that Jesse's getting a labiaplasty. This was prepped for that to give her inspiration for her new JJ. Yep. Yep. That's all we have to say. I think that's all we need to do with this.

we need to do. Okay. What would you name yours? Does your dick have a date? Oh, yeah, that was another part. Poncho, which is a strange name. That just reminded me of Crowe the Warrior King, which is from How to Lose a Guy in 10 Days,

and also Austin Crowle's handle on Instagram, which is pretty funny. But let's move on. We move on. We move on. Let's move on. We get to Taylor and her mom. And Dak, Dakota. And Taylor just gotten into a fight, and he's leaning heavy on the give in to me, surrender,

which is such a creepy way to say, marry me, and is so Mormon that it hurts. Like, no, she does not have to surrender to you, buddy. She can make her own decisions. She's a grown woman. She's also the breadwinner, because there's no way you're bringing anything to the table financially. And she's making probably six or seven figures at this point from TikTok and Brandeis. So no, she doesn't have to surrender to anybody. And look, I don't, I'm not, I don't want to do this card, but you don't get, you don't get to claim I'm a really good Mormon and you're pregnant and we need to get married right now.

When it seems like based off of what we know about your past, you have neglected your good Mormonism for your entire life. So no, you don't get to turn around now and say, oh, we need to get married because of the Mormon church. Like, duh, what have you done in your past that has indicated that you've been a good Mormon? nothing nothing that i've heard so no it doesn't work from what we've seen collectively across the board it does appear to be selective when people would like to adhere to the uh the teachings of the book of mormon it does not seem to be a little ketamine over here a little uh nitrous oxide over here that's okay the things he's done no he's out he doesn't claim it out yeah but the mom leanne wants to have a discussion with him lian again i love i love i love

I like Leanne a lot. I know she's trying to be a Mormon and really hammer it home to Taylor still. But at the same time, she's mama. And she's going to be mama and she's protective of her baby. And that's she wants to, I love that she. Tell him you're going to labor. Yeah, that's crazy.

I was like, wow. He'll answer that. Yeah, and he did because she called him, left him on, left her on, do not disturb pretty much. Tell her, tell him that you're going to labor. his reactions to i know why you're calling and i don't want to talk to you crazy what the fuck are you doing dude she's what's her mom 15 days from her due date i know why you're calling and i don't want to talk to you you're really going to throw a temper tantrum right now it's your

daughter's fault yeah that's nobody opens with it's your daughter's fault because i'm all in and there's only so much that i can do it's not about you and leanne says that this is about your And this is what shows you that he's a narcissist and an idiot. He doesn't see that. This is all about the baby. And again, I talked about it last episode. If you really gave a fuck and showed good positive change, people would recognize that. But again, as you pointed out, instantly it comes back to him.

Now it's about him. I'm trying to do this. I'm trying to do that. She won't do this. It's her fault. May, may, man, man. He's acting like a pissed off teenager rather than fully understanding what the situation. is and like you said we're 15 days away from a baby fucking grow up dude and he's like i've

been busting my ass all i want is a family doing what what have you done to bust your ass because i haven't seen it nope i haven't seen one thing no he's literally done nothing to change my opinion of him except for force himself into a photo shoot which was bizarre and not a good move he yelled at taylor in front of her friend who was trying to confront him about issues that were alarming to her, furthering her opinion of him. You've done nothing. You can't claim I'm busting my ass and not show anything, sir. That's not how it works. No. And from what we can tell, all of the conversations that Taylor is trying to have with you are about your actions. Yes, they're about her trust issues, but they're based on your actions. So I don't see anything.

I haven't seen you do anything. Yeah. You did this, but the ends of the conversation with either commit to me or end this you're giving an ultimatum now instead of hey let's get you to to labor let's get this baby out let's let's make sure everything's good and then we'll work on it or hey i'm here to support you whatever you need right now instead of forcing an ultimatum when you're fucking nine months pregnant yeah where your hormones are all over the place you're not feeling great you just want to get that baby out i'm going to have a very emotionally charged conversation with you about our future forever. What do you think?

Should we do this? Probably not. Yeah, probably not. That's more of an indicator of fucking run from this guy than anything. The fact that you're sitting there nine months pregnant with your mom and he won't answer the fucking phone. And when he does, the first thing he says it, it's your daughter's fault.

Shut up. Yeah. What are we doing here? But we move on and we get to Jesse and Layla and surgery went great. she's recovering everything's okay taking painkillers which i guess is okay once again the lines are blurred and what's allowed and what's not apparently oxy cotton is fine i don't know if it was oxy i probably shouldn't make i shouldn't just claim that yeah yeah let me let me retract that from the record painkillers is what she was taking there you go i do not know what she was taking let me

firmly hammer that home i'm not a doctor despite i just play one on tv yeah i just play one on tv all right go back watch er yeah i'm george cluny uh anyway they're planning for vegas which seems so ironic in of itself that a group of mormons are going to go to vegas but hey this is this is new mormonism we're in charge of our own destiny so i don't think it's new mormonism as much as it is this is incredible content for our brand phenomenal this is what we're doing we are modern mormon moms we're making money we're putting things out there to try to break the stigma what better way to do this both for the TV show and for TikTok, then to go film some content out in Vegas because we can show you, check us out. We're Mormons, but we're in Vegas. We know how to have fun too. We don't

need to drink. We don't need to gamble. We don't need to go do lewd things, even though that's all of the things that they do. And this is this entire episode. So we don't need these things. We just, we're going to be in Vegas. We're just going to have a good time. We're going to party the Mormon way. Sure you are. Okay. I get it. The normal way. I understand that. It would have made more sense if you went to, I don't know, Lake Tahoe. Maybe you go to L.A. Maybe you go somewhere else. No, let's go to Vegas.

We got to show everybody that we're cool. Yeah. It worked. It worked for me. It worked for me. Yeah. I loved it. But they find out that Dak and Zach are going to Vegas.

And Jesse calls that immediately. She's like, the only reason these two idiots are going is to keep an eye on their, on their wives, their girlfriends. Like, that's literally the only reason is this control that they want to have over them because they're afraid of. what they're going to do in Vegas, which is crazy. And once again, for Taylor, obviously, Jen Affleck is a different story because she's already married, but for Taylor, another red flag fucking run away, run as fast as you possibly can from this guy because he's bad fucking news, but he wanted to be there in case she went into labor.

Okay. No, you didn't. Yeah. No, you fucking didn't. You're lying. You're lying and you're using childbirth. And then he needed, he needed Zach to also be there because he's an ex-addict and who knows what he might get into in Vegas.

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kids would be pretty tough but that's your choice i was like what yeah are you insane you just threatened divorce over a magic mic show while putting well did you see the t-shirt that he put into his bag or the the polo that he put into his bag i didn't see the polo i saw the lucky poker sweatshirt oh the lucky poker sweatshirt's fucking insane let's talk about that in a second the shirt that he was putting into his bag was a dan flash's original did you see the crazy designs When the designs are crazy, it's more expensive. It's more expensive. Yeah, I had to fight a guy off for this t-shirt.

I couldn't believe what he was putting into that bag. And then the piece of resistance was the poker sweatshirt, which is fucking ludicrous. You're going to Vegas to play poker. You have a specific, it's not your lucky poker sweatshirt. You've thought about how you're going to be able to win money while wearing this. Because if I get a little hot, I can just pull it down a little bit. And if I have a really good hand, I'm going to. pull it up here so you can't see the vein in my neck so you know how all of this works which by

the way just a little bit of a PSA out there that's a tell so if you pull your sweatshirt up and you cover your neck when you have a good hand everybody else is going to know that you have a good hand so you're not even good at it and you're going to lose all the money that your sugar mama is giving you from her TikTok funds so it was just a fucking crazy conversation that they had that was the funniest part to me was you're there she brings up a magic mic show that's grounds for divorce yep you have apparently that i will not do you know not going to out anybody for addiction or anything like that but there are rumors about you not having a great relationship with gambling uh-huh you are taking 2,500 from your sugar mama let's not get it

twisted here that's your sugar mama she's paying for your medical school she's giving you a bank roll to go play poker in Vegas which is not Mormon at all by the way you want to lean on the church for her going to Magic Mike and get divorced, but you can go gamble with her money. You can go have the time of your life in Vegas, but you're going to make her feel like shit for positing, just bringing up the conversation of Magic Mike. That tells me everything I need to know about this guy. And the poker sweatshirt, as you pointed out, I may have spent some time in casinos when I was in the minor leagues, may have dabbled here and there, may have shown up to the ballpark at

11 a.m. for a 12 o'clock game after being at the casino in West Virginia, but I was on a heater and you don't leave the table when it's hot. But regardless, the poker sweatshirt's not a thing. Like you said, the minute I see that zip, I'm going, okay, you've got something. Yep. Every time you zip that up, you've got pocket aces. So I'm not, I'm not betting now. Yeah.

It's just, and I love when people also, this is my favorite thing about people that gamble, whether it be sports betting, whether it be cards, whatever. When people act like they've got it figured out makes me laugh more than any. anything. I know what I'm doing. I've got my poker sweatshirt. I'll zip it up. No one will have any idea. I've got gambling figured out. He lost every penny of that $2,500. Oh, yeah. Without a doubt. Very quickly. And then pulled out his own funds that he was rationing off of his parents that gave him money that he blew as well on gambling allegedly. Like, uh, I can't. I could go on for days for this, but I'm not going to. And he's like, I'm so excited. I've been thinking about it all week. It's been so long since I gambled. six months he's got it to the game you can't even i guess you probably can't gamble in utah utah strikes me as a state that just banned gambling makes a lot of imagine there there could be there's a lot of native americans in utah i could see there being some reservations with with some casinos out there i don't want to say that for sure do you see zach venturing into

a reservation yeah fuck yeah really definitely yeah he would stand out like a sore thumb with that blonde ass hair but he's there yeah that's a good point but yeah i could definitely definitely see that but we keep going and you know macy's pissed as well that dakota's coming and this is where we get led in on a little information that she may have regarding him we don't get to figure out what it is yet but she says i got some info that may confirm some suspicions those suspicions being about jenna we've heard about her previously i really hope we have to see jenna at some point i don't finish that's a bummer but we get to jenn a flex house taylor shows up and once again this is a second episode or did that happen was she with her mom yeah when was the phone call

this episode yeah so Dakota's not there with the mom because there's one fight fast forward we have another fight whilst packing the car that causes her to kick him out of the car get your shit get the fuck out I'm going to Jen Afflex you're not coming with me I figure he's kicked off the trip yep that makes sense see you Dakota you're not coming to Vegas anymore forward what five seconds maybe knock on the door and it's fucking Dakota after Taylor sits there and tells Jen Affleck multiple times I'm fucking done I need a break meanwhile Dakota and this is such like manipulative emotional manipulation of a pregnant woman nine months pregnant with your child and you're texting her I'm so broken I'm so lost right now I don't know where

I am I need help this that the other thing I'm not saying you can can't ask for help, but I don't believe you. I think you're emotionally manipulating your girlfriend because she won't say yes to getting married. Yeah, I mean, that's exactly what's going on. And I was not surprised at all to see him still show up because you could see the way that she was talking about it, looking down in her phone, texting him back, like, oh, yeah, no, he's telling me that he's so broken right now. Of course he's going to show up. He's going to have all of his stuff in his hands. I imagine that he probably hopped in an Uber, just chewed this guy's ear off with all of his problems, that poor Uber driver that I just made up in my mind had a terrible,

terrible trip, probably got no tip, zero tip, for sure, shows up with all of his stuff at his hands, like, I still want to go to Vegas, though, because I got to make sure that you don't do anything wrong. And as he says later in the episode, or maybe it was actually the next episode, but whatever, talking about how his mind goes to the worst places possible. That was this one. That was this one when they're at Magic Mike or they're at the casino. He's at the casino with Zach. He's at the casino, Zach, and he goes outside to call Brett. Yeah, and he's talking about how his mind goes to the worst possible place. You outed yourself for why you're on this trip.

You didn't go on this trip. You didn't say once, I'm worried that she's going to be in labor. I'm worried about this. I'm just waiting for that call. You're worried that she, a 36-week pregnant woman, is going to be up on stage getting danced on by a stripper. Which she should. Yeah, let her go have some fun. The rest of the husbands, the guy you call in particular,

Brett just wants to chill out. He's at home with the fucking kids. He's probably just went to bed. He's about to like, he's like watching some football. He's watching good old fashioned BYU football, putting it on the TV, and you've got fucking Dakota calling him

because he's worried that his pregnant girlfriend is dancing with a stripper. Yeah, you're a weirdo. He is a weirdo. And like you, Brett's at home right now. Yeah. Solo. Fuck, he probably ordered Taco Bell or something crazy.

And he's sitting there with like fucking $80 worth of food. a glass of whiskey because we know they drink watching probably football like fuck yes I got a night at home and I chill out and now I got this idiot calling me about nothing like fuck off dude I don't have time for this but the crazy thing about this scene

is as Dakota first of all the openness of Dakota and Taylor for that matter in front of another couple just offering all of this information in their house crazy yeah in their house the crazier part is both Jen and Zach are like, shit, if anybody gets it, we do. And I'm like, guys, that's not good.

That's not good. You can't watch that and say, we get it. We understand. It's like, oh, that's bad because here's the thing. Taylor's at least not married to this. You guys are married and going through this shit. And you should not be able to relate to all these toxic behaviors with two kids, married for a few years.

That's a massive red flag. That's a bigger red flag than anything Dakota's put out. when they're both like we get it i'm like that's bad guys that's a bad thing and you're acting like it's ho-hum like you'll get through it it's fine it's not fine it's bad as we see where we got to we're great jesus i'll save it for for when that happens but decode does the same shit he always does and this this is just a pattern and it's so interesting because of the timeline of these later episodes where it's fairly back to back to back every time they get in a fight his first move is to go with her hat in hand and say I'm sorry she goes for what and he says I don't know

I feel lost and confused he just knows that if he goes there like a hurt puppy dog and says I'm sorry she'll give in a event I have a hug like no can't have I know that was such a manipulative it's just that I love you too much that's my problem okay yeah that's your problem dude there's a toxic ass hug and Jen acknowledging the relationship seems toxic was even crazier because Jen, you just, sorry, Jen Affleck, you just said if anybody understands it's us and then you say this relationship seems super toxic. Hello? Hello? Yep. I'm knocking on a imaginary door right now. Like that's your relationship too, man. Fuck. It's bad. It's absolutely. But we get to the ladies. house in Vegas and there's no boys allowed and in keeping with the uh the jj painting party

labia's only in this house all right not ladies labia's only and jesse's pissed because the boys didn't ask her if they could come on the trip it's her trip boys show up and while they're standing there the stripper conversation comes up again yep he's like no male strippers though no male strippers and i'm gonna save my rant for this one me get to the stripping but no male strippers ha ha i'm kidding she can do whatever she wants really no no absolutely not no i'm i have five cameras set up and you don't know where they are and i'll know what you're doing i've got $2,500 burning a hole in my pocket but as soon as i start getting down i'm going to blame jan aflac yep i'm going to take out my gambling woes on my wife because she's the

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And actually, I was sad for her when she goes, he just loves me and cares for me too much. I'm like, that's not it. It's the same thing that Dak just said outside of the car. Dakota is sitting there saying, I love you too much. That's my problem. Jen didn't hear that.

Jen is talking inter-confessional later, saying the exact same thing. So you're seeing all the parallels in both of these relationships. And like you said, Zach and Jen are married. So this is an even bigger problem. You already have two kids together. You're already doing all these things. You're living together. You're paying for his medical school.

And you're saying all the same things that Taylor is saying about Dakota. It's a problem. It's a massive problem. It's not healthy. And you're, it's just, it's sad. It's honestly sad to see it. Yeah, I felt really bad for. gen this one i did too it was not not pretty but we got a quick check in with connor and whitney

heading to the homesteader's house and uh whitney still playing the card of nobody cares about me i don't want to go on that trip with those girls it's just going to be drama okay yeah it's going no it's not actually the only reason it is drama is because the boys showed up but if it was just the girls it would have been drama free you're the problem you are the problem but this is where we find out about the confession so first of all i love this idea from mason she puts out a crazy it's pretty much like barstool confessions it she can see she said that she can click on it and see who said it i thought she couldn't i thought that was the deal that's why she said there's a button i guess she wasn't doing it which i don't believe that she didn't do it but

apparently there's a button on there that says who said this and you can click on it maybe maybe it sends a prompt to the person and then they then they know that you rejected it but if you send that in you have to know she's going to look yeah of course but like i think it's the i think it's really funny because one I'm not involved in any of this but it's super shady let me just I was bored one day so I set this thing up called Sunday sinners where people could just confess all of their sins to me it's I'm not a priest I just have a big massive following and I can read through all of these things and it's basically when I go down like a TikTok hole and I read about all these people and all their problems it's fun for me it's funny it's a funny premise dude I think it's

but she's the only one who can see them I know but I'm for but maybe she posts like the funny ones. I don't know, but I think it's fucking hysterical. I think I love the idea, but the confession goes, I accidentally slept with Dakota before I knew that he

and Taylor were dating. I'm not sure what accidentally means. Nope. I'm not sure if you tripped and fell on his penis. What happened there? Tripped and fell on poncho. Yeah. I got ponchoed out of nowhere. I just fell on it. It was raining. I didn't have a poncho. And

I did have a poncho. And I had a pie. I found my poncho. But accidentally slept with them. And obviously, everyone thinks, okay, this could be Jenna, which would be confirming suspicions. But we get back to Whitney and this is where she says, you know, I just want to get away from the drama.

And everyone's saying that homesteading is just another version of Hawaii, but I'm not running away. I think that you're not physically going to a different place, but you are trying to consume yourself entirely with a new way of life and living that would consume all of your time, therefore not having time for other things, therefore having a built-in excuse for why you're not available. Pretty much, yeah. Which is running away.

That's running away, yeah. At least in the other one, you're not. In one situation, you're not covered in shit. You're on a sandy beach in Hawaii. In this scenario, you're literally picking up poop frequently. Yeah. To the point where it's embedded in your hair and your clothes and you're just going to smell like horse shit all the time, which is honestly kind of fitting for you, Whitney. So you know what, homestead away and claim that you don't care about the trip to Vegas, even though you are so upset that you're not there.

Even though you're checking your socials immediately every five to 10 minutes just to see if they posted anything. So yeah, sure. Yeah, weird. I'm just going to throw this quote out there and leave it there. I don't have anything more to say about it. see if you have a response you don't have to when the horse takes a poop Connor goes did you see his butthole just like close that's all I'm gonna say that's all you got that one there do with that what you

will but we get to Vegas and they're on the bus I don't know I love it from a viewer standpoint from a I have a bunch of Mormon friends standpoint I thought it was kind of shady yeah we're on the bus we already know what's going on but they're headed to something fun and it's a surprise she does tell them on the bus which i'm glad we're going to chippendales we're going to see male strippers dance we got the VIP package so we get to go backstage and meet the dancers they oil up their chests and everything and the entire time jen is just super uncomfortable which i felt bad like you shouldn't be put in a position where you feel uncomfortable my whole

thing was, and as it breaks down further and further, are you uncomfortable because you don't want to be there? Because you think it looks bad on the Mormon religion. Do you think it's bad for you? You feel like you're disrespecting Zach? Or are you afraid of what Zach's response is going to be? Yes. All encompassing. I think it's all encompassing, honestly. I think that she did a good job of between her confessionals and also talking to her friends, that she was concerned about her own image. She was concerned about taking pictures with these guys backstage, which they did, which I didn't really understand why you needed to take a picture either. That is not what you're going. But it's the Mormon thing. That's all the matter. For the Mormon part of it. Okay.

Yeah. Like again, your whole idea of this is, yeah, Mormons aren't that boring. They go out and do things. We can still go have some fun. This is, I feel, directly against what the Mormon teachings do. I would imagine. You're not supposed to do that. It would be the same thing as I don't know I don't know what to compare it to I was going to talk about Zach in the gambling den but we'll talk about that

in a little bit you can't do it like it just doesn't seem like it fits with your whole church and your whole identity and some of these girls are against things like that no no no

Jen I do think is fully uncomfortable with even doing that regardless of Zach but she is also scared of Zach so I think it is all encompassing I felt really bad for it I feel like this is not I mean you knew it was going to happen though

that's the other thing I feel like she really got scared when I forget who said it, but there, somebody pointed out, oh, these are like the dirty guys. They show ass. They show a lot of hair. They show cheeks. Whoa. It makes them dirty.

Yeah. It could get worse, I'm sure. But that's when she really started to dig deep into it. And it's like, okay. And then, yeah, the picture taking backstage and all the guys up close and personal, like, yeah, that's probably going to make you a little more uncomfortable too. So I just felt for Jen the entire time. Yeah, I felt like I didn't want her to be.

put in a position that she didn't want to be in whether it was for zach or whatever like just that i i didn't love yeah but as they're sitting there and taylor lets dakota know that they're there and jace macaela's husband he's upset that they're there and then jen calls zach and he starts yelling at her and she's like can you just like stop for a second like think of me and my character like i'm leaving this thing yep you're you're putting it on me like i've done something wrong i didn't know we were coming here it was a surprise we showed up i was uncomfortable didn't partake in anything very awkward i want to leave yeah here's my thing for for all these dudes that had a fucking issue with it not from the mormon standpoint because that was not the guy's problem that wasn't

zack's problem that wasn't jace's problem and that wasn't dakota's problem their issue is being insecure little bitches and not allowing their wives and girlfriends to go have fun at a strip club like it's chippendales who cares none of them are going to get banged by the strippers relax that's not what they do believe it or not they're there to dance on stage for them to have a good time just because you're an insecure little bitch boy and you're afraid that this muscled up oiled man is going to steal your girl away that's a you problem that means you're not providing something in your relationship and you're insecure to think that she's going to step out on you with a chippendales dancer yeah are you fucking kidding me like if dev called me and said

hey i'm going to chippendales i'd be like great have a blast do you have enough singles yeah take pics backstage oil up their chest have a fucking good time because i trust you i want you to have fun with your girls i'm not even going to think about it genuinely i would be at home i've got eighty dollars of taco bell sitting in the other room yes i got to get back to that i'm crushing taco ball watching football yeah give me a call afterwards and let me know how fun it was that's all i need to hear i heard about her bachelorette party sorry dev but but my point is this is never a man problem. Any dudes that get bent out of shape about this kind of shit,

it's not because you're upset they're going to get danced on by a dude because of the sanctity of your relationship. It's an insecurity problem that you yourself have that you need to get over. The only way you're going to push her further away from you in this situation is if you overreact like an idiot and say you're getting danced on by a dude, there's a hundred people there. Plus, everyone's getting danced on. Let them have fun, you fucking weaners.

But anywho. Let's keep going. That's my rant on the fucking fun police. Like, grow the fuck up. I'm sure we'll get more into it later. But the night kind of, I guess that's actually it. I just realized this is onto the next episode. So the night sort of just devolves into chaos because you got three of the women leaving.

You got Taylor bouncing. You've got Michaela bouncing. And you've got Jen Affleck, who's sobbing uncontrollably because her husband is now threatening divorce. He's saying literally unforgivable things. I don't know how you can say the certain things he's yelling at her on the phone about, which again, this is not a Jen Affleck problem. She did right by you and herself and the church.

She stood by what she believed that she got the fuck out of there. I don't want to be a part of this. I didn't partake in anything. Didn't know we were coming here. She is blameless. There is nothing to hold over her head. And meanwhile, fucking Zakaris Targaryans on the phone screaming at her like a little doucheback.

While he's sitting at the table and he's angry texting her, which I was, again, I was surprised that... You're not allowed their phones at the table. I know, and I was surprised that we were able to actually see him sitting at a table. I didn't expect to see a camera in there, but there we go. We got him just sitting there with this stupid fucking poker hoodie, going literally losing all of his money that she gave him, pissed off, texting her, getting up from the table, probably calling her,

sitting back down, losing again, sitting back up, texting her like crazy, like... Zipping up the hoodie, zipping up the hoodie, zipping down the hoodie, no matter what's going on there he's always got a got an angle to play there and you have that going on while dakota's outside he's still sitting at the table dakota's outside calling another guy brett who's not there who we already watched on camera say yeah i don't give a shit like go have fun what do i care he's sitting at home with his taco bell just relaxing don't bother him alone this is the next episode but yes oh yeah okay it leaks in a little bit but i think the biggest thing my biggest

takeaway here and we'll talk about it like at length next episode but the biggest takeaway for me you're mad at you so Zach wants to play the card of Mormon right he wants to use the church and religion and values to really drive the nail home with Jen Affleck and make her feel even worse you're sitting at a poker table gambling with her money that's it if I was Jen Affleck, I'd be like, brother, fuck off. Take my bankroll and put it in your pocket and I better have every fucking cent when I get home or mama's not going to give you any more money. And no one's going to pay for your fucking medical school.

The fact that this guy is sitting there and saying these things while sitting at a poker table is astounding and just shows you so many things that are wrong in this religion because of the misogyny and the fact that he. He's propped up on a pedestal simply because he's got a dick in balls and wants to be a dick to his wife because he's a man. Fuck you, bro. You're getting paid for. She's taking care of you. And not a small bankroll either.

$2,500 to go play poker. People play poker in casino so you don't blow your money quickly. That's why you play poker. He can sit around the table for a while and play. It's not like blackjack where you can lose quickly or craps. Both great games. God, there's Yeah.

But we'll get into it a lot more next episode. I have a whole lot to say about old Zach. Oh, yeah, I'm gonna fucking skewer that moron. But yeah, all in all, once again,

phenomenal episode of TV. It's just a good show, dude. Easy watch. It's captivating. And the characters are all great. Everybody's bringing, like everyone's pulling their weight.

I know you think that Layla could do more, but like, I'm cool with what everyone's bringing to the table. Okay. Okay. All right. Now you got anything else? All right, check you later.

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