Bros & Shows - Sip and See Yourself Outta Here Janet! (The Valley Full Recap)

Episode Date: April 7, 2026

What's up bros? We're back in the Valley after Bravo did almost no marketing for this season so it seemingly came out of no where! At least it came out during a pretty down time for Bravo news right? Wrong! We weren't sure where we'd be with this crew coming into this season but so far so good! It's only one episode in but it seems our skepticism for the new additions were possibly wrong and we're completely cool with that. Overall, this was a good premiere for a season we're not sure about so let's keep up those good vibes Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Many promotions are available both in-store and online, though some may vary. with all of the Bravo going on right now, not just the craziness from Summerhouse, but there's a lot of good shows on right now. I honestly forgot that the Valley was premiering so soon. And I'm so excited because we have another great Bravo show coming back. Yeah, I look, I mean, you can talk about Bravo's marketing or lack thereof as much as you want.

I completely forgot that the Valley was coming back. Even before all the West of Amanda shit, I did not know this show was coming back so soon. Throw Atlanta in there, too. They didn't do any marketing for that. It's a crazy April. It's going to be nuts. We're going to be very busy.

And I guess we sleep in like July. Yeah? I'll sleep when I'm dead, pal. Yeah, there you go. As there's a drive in a deep left field by Castellanos. Oh man, it's 8 o'clock. And so that'll make it a... I don't need the spotlight.

I shine just fine. Hi, I'm Carmen. And yes, I am a bitch. Bravo Bros. Good evening, everybody. Welcome back to another episode of Bravo Bros. Your favorite podcast from the Bros. For everybody, for whoever wants to listen, I am the co-host, Steele Russell,

joined as always by the one and only Santa Clarit Goots. What's up, dude? Not a whole lot. Santa Grita. Come on. Yeah, you'll get it, dude. It's okay. Don't worry about it.

We were only there. We were only in Santa Clarita for like. 30 seconds. So, you know, it will get there. When there's a big, a big episode where everybody's complaining about how far away it is, you can start it off with that. No one's going to remember that you fucked it up the first time. Yeah. Well, now they will because we talked about it. But yeah. Yeah, true. First thoughts, solid premiere. This show is very consistent. And that's what I really like about it. You know, everybody on the show is very consistent for the most part. You kind of know what you're getting. And I've learned to love that about the Valley.

Like it, this episode, they just pick up right where they left off. Like, no notes. I thought it was a great premiere. Yeah, I, I mean, I'm on the record of saying that I do think this show has the potential to fizzle out. And I think I said season five is when we're going to start seeing it. I was very worried going into this premiere because it's Lala and Schwartz. So is I. Not only are they friends of, but they're all, or they're not friends of.

They're full-time cast members. and my biggest issue was, I don't want to see one-on-one scenes with just Lala and Schwartz. Like I just don't care about their lives. They're not that interesting. I'm kind of over them. They ruined the show. Well, maybe Schwartz didn't,

but Lala definitely had a big hand in ruining VPR. I don't want to see her one-on-one scenes of like her going about her day. I don't give a shit what she's up to. Maybe it's just the first episode, but Lala was okay. Schwartz is always going to be Schwartz, but Lala was okay. And I'm wondering if maybe because the end of this episode,

episode really showed me why Brock and Sheena should not be on the show. Maybe without Brock and Sheena there, Lala's going to be okay. Or she at least knows because she is pretty smart. So I do think she knows what the public perception is of her joining the show. Maybe she'll be okay and she'll be actually somewhat entertaining for a little while anyway. I think we might be shooting ourselves in the foot right now. But I will co-sign and say like Lala is very intelligent. Like that's that's not a secret like she's a smart person.

So I do think given her her time off, her sabbatical, if you will, with touch and go being on the valley like from guest spots here and there. I think one, she missed the limelight. I think she missed being on TV. Okay. I think she's definitely read the room.

And I think that she's going to come on to this show with that presence of mind to not blow it up like she did. She was not the only reason. reason the VPR blew up. She was definitely a contributing factor. But I do think that she has the wear with all to come into this situation. Be like, you know what? Second chance. I got revived. Not everybody did. Everybody was vying for a spot on the valley. Only Schwartz and Lala got a full-time spot from the VPR realm. So I do think that she's going to ease into it. I think she might be okay. I think in about five or six episodes, we're going to come

back to this moment and be like, why the fuck did we say anything? We're so stupid. I know. do this, but for now. But yeah, for now. And the other thing is, like, I don't think that Lala can single-handedly ruin this show. It would have to be the people that have been on this show since episode one. Brittany could easily ruin this fucking show for me. She is, she's unbearable. I can't stand Brittany.

She drives me up a goddamn wall. Janet, we already know I'm not really going to talk about it. Janet's going to be Janet. Janet's going to be Janet. And Janet actually can be very interesting and compelling TV if she's on. but the last couple, I guess, let's say the last half of last season, she just wasn't. Like, if you're going to be the villain, push into it. We've said that to her a million times.

Lala can't ruin the show. Brittany absolutely can if they try to just central around her. There's enough else going on where I hope that they do it right. And I don't know if they will because Jermaine's on this show. But if you don't spend too much time on just one individual or one couple, the show's going to be good. If you spend too much time talking about Britney and her new dating life, I'm going to lose interest very quickly. Make sure that everybody's in the mix.

Like, don't leave anybody out. I agree. And I think that that's what the show has done really well over the past two seasons. They've been very good at keeping it an ensemble cast. Nobody's really taking front and center. I don't think that they're now going to shift into a Brittany-centric show. I think we let off the way we did, given all the shit that happened with Jack's last season, And I think that that was just like, here's where Brittany's at currently.

I agree. She's a lot. You know, and I think why I get irritated is because the rose colored glasses all the time where I'm like, dude, I don't believe you. You know, like, I know you're bubbly. I know that's your personality. I know that this is like new you. That's great. I want you to thrive.

Fuck Jacks. I want you to live your life and enjoy it. All of those good things. But it comes off somewhat disingenuous. Is that just me? No, no, it definitely comes off disingenuous. Like it comes off like she's putting up a show. And yes, I don't believe the show that I'm watching.

Like I do think that there's enough going on. And look, it's sort of the lesser of two evils. Like, do we just deal with the fact that she's going to push this personality and act like this is who she is all the time? Or do we really want her to continue to talk about Jacks? Do we really want her to talk about all of the things that she went through in the relationship and now where she is? I think if we find some sort of middle ground, it'll be okay.

But I do think that I would, I would probably want to subject myself more to her probably fake personality than I would revisiting all of the Jack stories. I agree with that. But we check in with her initially. And she's with Brandon, who she knows from Kentucky. They've been dating for a little while now. They just got back from Cabo for like five days. She's all excited about this relationship. She's talking all these good things about Brandon.

So I'm sure we'll see more of him this season. Benji and Zach are faves. They are moving in together still. They're getting all that shit figured out because of his visa. They're still in West Hollywood and they're probably going to stay there because they're not going to go to the valley. His apartment's a fucking disaster. He needs to clean that apartment up.

I know. Every time we go over to Zach, like I love Zach, but every time we go over to his apartment, I'm like, God damn, dude. I know that the storage probably doesn't exist in that apartment, but find something. please figure it out. I can't keep going over there. I feel like I'm crammed in. Yeah.

What about a bookcase maybe? Some cabinets. Sure. Yeah. I don't know. Yeah. Use code braf bros at checkout on Wayfair. I get 20% off.

There you go. There you go. Melissa and Jasmine are still engaged. They are planning the wedding, which I've given this seat, I'm assuming that wedding might be this season. We may see this wedding. That's the vibe I got because they're trying to like, we got a lot to do and we're getting close.

So I got the vibe that we might see their wedding this season. I don't know. We'll see some semblance of their wedding. I don't know if it'll be the full wedding like we're used to for, you know, VPR when we go back and watch all of those weddings. I think it could just be maybe a little reception action, maybe the cocktail party. Who knows? But I do, I got the same vibe. I think it's coming up soon.

I just did not do my due diligence on whether or not that wedding happened while they were filming because there's just too much going on. Leave me alone. Yeah, we're tired. We're trying our best over here. But they did move to the Valley. So they are officially Valley residents. And then we go check in with Michelle, who as we know, I feel bad. But we know that Aaron broke up with her in the off season, which was a big shock.

She wasn't ready for that. It kind of came out of nowhere. I cannot wait to talk about that later because I don't know who the fuck this guy thinks he is. But anyway, she is single and she's mingling. she's trying to meet somebody she seems like she's doing pretty well her and jesse are still not divorced she's claiming that the paperwork's ready to go i just need him to sign which i completely 100% believe and then jesse gives an ambiguous answer oh god here we got to put up a team jesse again um jesse gives the ambiguous answer of i want to it just doesn't happen yet it's simple i don't believe you i believe

Michelle. I don't believe Michelle at all. I believe Jesse. I think no. And I like I genuinely know and we know enough about them. I mean, between custody and the business that they were doing and the assets. The way Michelle talk, the truth is probably somewhere in the middle. I do think that there's probably some things that they need to figure out and agree on before they can get divorced. Whereas Michelle's just coming from this, this angle of everything's ready to go. Like I don't understand why doesn't sign, maybe there's language in that contract or with that divorce agreement that shows that you're going to get this and get that and you're going to get more custody and all of these things.

And Jesse's not agreeing to it. Supposedly. I mean, who knows? I never really know who to believe when it comes to divorces, especially when we're very well-versed in divorces with these shows. I mean, how many fucking divorce lawyers can we go to in one year? We've been to like four or five already. I don't know what the answer is, but there's something about Michelle.

I just don't trust when she starts talking. talking about things, she makes it seem so simple and so cut and dry, we can get divorced right now. I kind of think that there's more things that they need to agree on and she's not talking about it. And Jesse's not talking about it for a different reason. I imagine that they don't want the inner workings of everything out there just yet. It will come out there on reality TV. But maybe on the things that they're talking about when it comes to custody and, you know, shared assets and whatever it might be.

Maybe they don't want to really talk about it. The answer is probably somewhere in the middle. I'm not going to go full Jesse on you yet. aren't they like BFF stuff don't they like hang out and everything seems to be like chill didn't we get pictures and stuff with that we did but i mean the first picture that we got was the sip and see and it was jesse with lacey and michel now obviously aaron wasn't there but there was a picture of the three of them and immediately people picked it up and started talking about they must be cool i guess it looks like lacy's filming at what it was they must have agreed with something there were more pictures it may have actually been from Jasmine and Melissa's wedding now that I'm thinking about it. But I guess they were hanging out and pictures looked like they were okay. But I don't know. I don't believe that they're actually okay.

Yeah, cordial at best, maybe. But we finally made it to Santa Clarita. And look, I get it now, Danny. That place looks awesome. You got mountain ranges in the backyard. Your house looks huge. You could have gotten that shit in L.A. No shot.

What? Nea was talking about like, which didn't make a whole lot of sense to me. She's like, yeah, you know, we moved out here. It's just, it's so far away from everything. I mean, I was having the baby and it took us an hour and 15 minutes to get to the hospital. Did, like, I know, you know, when you're having a baby, you kind of fall in love with somebody that's a doctor that's going to help you out and everything. Could you not switch to a different hospital? Oh, no, no, no.

Why not? Can you explain that to me? I mean, if it was, yeah, if it was like, you know, an emergency and they had to get the baby out immediately. Like, yeah, for sure.

But if you have a birth plan and a hospital and you have a gynecologist that you like, like that gynecologist is going to be giving birth to your kid, you develop a relationship with them. It's a very, very in-depth process. You research the hospital. Do we like this hospital? Does this hospital have a nursery?

Does it not have a nursery? What's, there's so many questions that go into, like the hospital you actually choose that. No, I fully understand going to that. that hospital. Then I'll,

I'll retune my question. Do you get to complain about how far away the hospital is if you knew that you were going to do this in the first place? Like you agreed to move out there. I mean, yes. Maybe. Yeah.

Because you're giving birth to a human being. I think you can complain about whatever the fuck you want. Yes. That's fair. There's a, there's a human coming out of her vagina as they're going down the highway. So, I think,

I think I'm just frustrated because we're all. starting the Santa Clarita is so far away from everything. I just don't want to hear it the entire season. It's not going to be funny. It's just going to be annoying. Like do it once. Have a big party. Have a housewarming party.

Have a sit and see for the baby for all I care. Have people go out there and then they can get all their complaints out about how far away you guys are. I know Danny and the year are going to talk about how far away they are in different ways the entire season. I'm already done with it. I'm just tired of it. I'm with you on that one.

That we can agree on. Yes. But again, the house is gorgeous. So they just had baby Adelaide. So they got four under four now. And, yeah, lots of babies on this show. As we see with Doty and Luke, much different with the first one. Because Danny and Nia, they got the baby.

They got the kids, like their season bets at this point. They both look fine. They're like, yeah, you know, she's Adelaide's great. She's about three months old, blah, blah, blah, blah. Doty and Luke, first child, they are in the trenches. You look in that, you see their faces, like they look exhausted. The baby is beautiful. They seem like they have a good system set up.

It's just, you know, the learning curve of being a new parent. It's so funny that I feel like every parent has this realization, like when you're about to leave the hospital. It's like, you mean you're just giving me this baby? I'm allowed to leave with this child. Is there a manual? What am I supposed to do now? Like, well, you're not coming with me.

But it's very funny to see that I've just kind of. of in the trenches. They both are just kind of like staring blankly at each other like, oh, God, but they're still figuring things out. Who's taking the baby today? Oh, God. It's not like we have any plans to do anything. Are you taking, I can't deal with this baby anymore.

Please, please, she won't stop crying. I don't know what to do. And obviously, you know, and we've seen this before too after, especially the first baby. You got a frustrated guy who just wants to have sex with his wife. And, well, I guess they're not married yet, but fiancé. And then Kristen, who's like, dude, I just gave birth to a baby.

Give me a little bit of time. And we're going to talk about this for a couple episodes, I'm sure. Maybe a couple's therapist is going to get involved and talk about it too. Maybe we get our old-fashioned life coach. Yep, get a little life coach in there. Somebody that we've seen before probably. I'm sure Peter Madrigal probably does life coaching now. So he'd be a great thing.

And we could just talk about all of those things. Let's just get that out of the way early because it's an uncomfortable conversation. We shouldn't be privy to that. No. No. And Luke, I'm going to blame it on like baby brain, but you shouldn't have had that conversation with Jesse on camera. That shouldn't have happened. Yeah.

We'll talk about it shortly. But this is where we hear about the sippancy. So Nia and Doty are having a sip and see for their babies. As we know, they're very close in age. Doty is talking about how she hasn't really left the house more than once, which is also, again, very common. So she's trying to get over the anxiety and things like that of having a newborn. And look, she's she's doing great. you're doing great keep it up but la la and immediately when i saw this scene la la made sense to me

yep because janet doesn't have a friend she doesn't have a one-on-one go-to la la is janet's friend so la la la's on the show full time yeah that's gonna be what we're gonna see and this was going into it my biggest fear this is what but I didn't want to see. I didn't want Lala to do what she does and rev up Janet, tell her that everything she's doing is correct. She didn't. I know.

Lala did the complete opposite, actually. I mean, she was understanding. She didn't really let Janet get too far and spin the yarn into something that it wasn't, talking about not being invited to things. And I don't really know what to do. I mean, this was a scene essentially for Janet to kind of catch us up the speed with where she

is with everybody. Like, I went over to Brittany's house. And look, Brittany's going to end up being the villain of this whole thing because it is high time that we talk about how bad of a friend Brittany is. We've been talking about it years. When it comes down to it, we have not really had the all-out war about Britney being a bad friend on this show. We've had little bits and pieces here and there.

I don't think it's going to really hold when Janet is sitting there saying that Britney's a bad friend. But if Janet says it and Kristen says it on opposite ends and we can kind of meet somewhere in the middle, we can actually have a good discourse about this whole thing. because it is high time that we talk about Brittany being a terrible friend. And that's what this scene really was for me. I mean, it was more, let's see how Lala does. Okay, she's not buying into all of this. She's not trying to push Janet in ways that we don't want to really want to see

because it can ruin the whole show. She was just kind of lending an ear like, hey, yeah, I'm invited to Kristen's thing. Of course I'm invited to Kristen's thing. You're not. That sucks. Tell me what's going on with you. And then we get all of this all at once. It's like, okay, cool.

That's a good way for Janet to catch us up to speed. Yeah. And I was baffled when Lala's like, You think you could say, sorry I went in so hard. Like, it's not my place. I was like, who are you? What do you mean? Constructive advice?

That doesn't make any sense. Maybe she learned. I don't know. But back to Doty and Luke. They're talking about Janet and Jason again, and there's been no effort on their part to try to mend anything, which isn't surprising at all. And they only saw her briefly at Brittany's house, as we know,

where Doty was told, and this is again, this is not a Nia. This is not a Doty thing. This isn't even a Janet thing. This is a Britney thing. Because Brittany told Doty, Janet's not going to be there. I even wrote down in my notes,

Britney strikes again. Janet, look, I invited her, but like, she's not going to be there. Don't worry about it. In the same scene, you get Janet in this juxtapose scene saying, like, you invited me to your party. You invited my child.

And like, look, fuck Janet. But credit were credits too. Like you invited her and her child to this party. She gets reamed out by somebody who hates her at this party. You don't say anything to Doty at this party. Like, and again, there's a lot of layers to it, sure, but you, Brittany, are the asshole. Janet and Doty shouldn't even be mad at each other in this moment. Because obviously they're not going to get along.

Like everybody knows that. So they both do their due diligence to not run into it. each other. There's a common denominator here, and it's Brittany the bad friend. Yeah, and it's not even one of those situations where they had to be together because of the show. I mean, this is off camera. This is off season. You need to pick. If things are that toxic between two of your friends, you either need to pick one that you invite and tell the other one, hey, XYZ is going to be there. We can't have this going on at the same place because there's going to be kids there. And I know that you guys are just going to jump at each other's throats. Perfect. Great.

That's a way to do it. The other way to do it is to tell both of them that they're both invited and you don't want to see any of that. Stay away from each other. There's going to be kids around. We don't have to do this. There's no show involved. Obviously there's animosity, but just fucking stay away from each other for a couple hours.

And just if you see each other, maybe give a head nod or don't. I don't care, but I don't want to see any more of the extracurriculars. That's all you have to do is a friend. That's all you have to do is a host of a party. She doesn't do any of those things. In fact, she actually makes it worse by lying and saying that Janet's, not going to show up. I'm sure she had a conversation, a full conversation with Janet about coming. And Janet probably said, is Kristen going to be there? Oh, that's going to be weird. And Brittany probably said,

oh, Kristen will back off. It's a party with she'll be inside the whole time. Don't worry about it. Yep. All of this was set up. And she wants to try to sidestep it as like, oh, I'm just a people please. I'm like, no, you're indecisive and you're a coward. Like, that's what this is. You don't get to blame your people pleasing. for putting your friends in bad situations where they're going to come off poorly. That's a you problem, Brittany, because you're not a good friend. Your indifference to situations does not make you a better friend. It actually makes you a worse friend. Yeah, no, it really doesn't.

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things? Is she doing too much too quickly? Because, you know, she's had such a tumultuous time with Jacks that this feels good. So she's so excited. I was impressed to hear that she's the one that's like, I'm not ready to be boyfriend, girlfriend, girlfriend yet. Yeah. But yeah, this is going to be an interesting one to watch play out because then you also have to look at it, unfortunately, because we, we do this for a living. Is Brandon trying to get on the show? I don't know. I don't think so.

We don't have enough information yet, but we always have to, like, ask those questions in any relationship that we see is what's his intention? I have a feeling he is trying to get on the show, but I'm going to hold out my actual judgment until we get a better view of who he is and what he's talking about. Because if he comes on strong and he's trying to, like, yupp it up with everybody else on the show and let's go talk about this and do whatever and

they kind of stay away from brittany that's going to tell us right away if he's right next to brittney the whole time and he just seems like a good boyfriend seems fine that's okay but right now my inkling is i think he does want to be on the show it might be both honestly he might like brittany he might want to be with her but i think he also does want to be on the show it's just you know a vibe of getting now the other side of that coin can we hold him accountable for that considering that Brittany did the same thing with Jacks. Sure. Why not?

We weren't around. We didn't podcast with Britney did that with Jacks. No, but I watched a lot. Oh, man. I will say, and like, you know,

it might be a me thing, but I always enjoy Schwartz on camera. Like, I actually had no issue with him being on this season. Yeah. And he just, he plays well on screen. He's a great extra body to have around.

You know, he's not going to drive a storyline. He's not going to get in the middle. of everything, but he is a good person to just like stick in his scene and be like, hey, talk to Zach. And it's like, all right, we'll probably get at least a happy scene out of these two. And we do. You know, we get to hear more about Schwartz. He's getting his sparkle back just like Brittany.

And I'm glad that he acknowledged the Tom Tom of it all. They're not, sorry, the Schwartz and Sandy's of it all. Because obviously it's a big elephant in the room. And he's like, look, you know, I'm happy that it happened. I'm happy it closed. to give me some grit getting through this whole thing. And I actually, weirdly, one, I actually do believe he's getting a sparkle back. And he deserves to, considering that Sandoval is now back on everyone's screen again,

and people are enjoying him on TV. So Schwartz should be allowed to get a sparkle back. But I do genuinely think that that whole situation at Schwartz and Sandys did make him actually grow up finally. To a certain. Whoa, whoa, to a certain extent. I need to amend that. Not like an actual grownup. Sorry, guys.

That sounded insane. Not like a normal grownup. I just mean he went from being like a toddler to like a teenager. Yeah. All right. I'll give you that in some regard for sure. I mean, look, get the shit out of the way quick. If you're going to be Schwartz on a show like this,

that's the only question we really have for you. That and I'm sure inevitably we're going to talk about whether or not he still lives next to Jacks, how that's all going. But for now, that's where you start. Just, you know, be Schwartz, be enjoyable on screen. You're not, like you said, you're not going to drive any sort of storyline. You're just going to be an accessory. You're going to be somebody who's going to be in the thick of things making a funny comment.

Like, that's all you really have to do. That's the only thing that's your bread and butter. And he knows what he's doing too. And I think he is going to stay out of shit for the most part. I think he'll get involved just on a comic level. That's about it. And that's all we really have to ask for him. So get the Schwartz and Sandy stuff out of the way.

It's interesting to hear his perspective specifically on it because we watch that whole thing crumble and burn towards the end of BPR. We knew it was going to happen. And then it did happen, of course. So get that out of the way because it's not really that interesting now, but we do know we have to talk about it. So talk to Zach about it. Talk to whoever about it doesn't matter to me.

Yeah, check that box so we can move on. But yeah, this is where Zach talks about being a little apprehensive about the Brittany situation. as we know, he is a great friend to Brittany, despite her being a terrible friend to him. And he's worried that she's moving too fast. She needs to figure out herself before she jumps into this relationship, or else she's not going to see the same red flags that she went through previously. Yeah.

Meanwhile, we're still figuring out the visa with Benji as we talked about, and we find out that they have an open relationship. He made a pretty actually compelling point, but I'll give him that. Okay. if sex is all about making a baby, then why is your prostate in your butthole? It's a good. Look, it's a valid argument, honestly.

Yeah. So I thought that was a good point from him. Yeah, not a bad point from him. The open relationship is going to be interesting to watch. I know. Is any time that somebody brings up an open relationship and they seem pretty happy about it? It never ends well.

Peace with it never ends well. And things always get a little hairy. And you're on reality TV. So it's going to get even worse. worse for you. But if they can navigate it right and it seems like everything's working, then I have nothing to say. I mean, shut me up right away. But it never really ends well. I've never seen it end well once. Nope. Time will tell. It could be a, it could be an interesting storyline. We'll see where that one goes. But Nia and Doty get together for a lunch.

And I feel for Doty like, and props to her for getting out of the house. And I know that it's stressful and, you know, the baby's crying. She's, I thought it was funny when she put points out, she's like, yeah, I went to the store. It was the first place I went and people aren't nice to be anymore. There's a difference between being pregnant and having a newborn. And I thought it was interesting that she highlighted that. But she's trying to get her bearings and she's, she's getting out of the house. You know, I think Nia with most things, not just baby, just most things in general,

she always seems to be the best person to talk to. Like she's very just intelligent and like normal. So I like to watch them chat back and forth about what's going on. you know, Doty's talking about the fact that the breast milk dried up. So I'm assuming she's doing formula now, all that good stuff. But we get to the inevitable conversation of the sex stuff. Because we go over to Luke and Jesse, dumb and dumber over here, talking about the plight of Luke not getting laid in a few months.

And the way that he, like, this is such a shitty look, dude. Like, your wife just gave birth. and I understand what he's saying, right? And Nick Doty even registers that like, yes, we had a very, very active sex life, but things change when you have a baby dude and him saying, and I'm sure 99.9% of dudes that have a newborn say the same exact line, I love your body. You look great.

That's all well and good. We watched standing to it like 50 times last year. Correct. Right? Correct. Exactly. He's been through it four times. Yeah. So it's great that you feel that way, Luke, and that's nice that you tell your wife that

genuinely. She doesn't feel good yet. And that's the part that he's missing to the point that he's saying to Jesse like, you know, so I just shut down and this now, I'm like, oh, stop talking. Stop talking. Because you're talking about six weeks without sex. I know. Okay. Like, it's six, it's a month and a half, brother. Like, you're not, I know what you're trying to do here. I promise it's not landing. And it makes you look like an, asshole. No, honestly. Especially when Jesse post signs like, yeah, dude.

Like, oh, fuck. God, dude. Like, and Jesse had to go through a one time with a woman that he's now divorced from. But it's like, I just never understand it because we see this conversation all the time. And it's always the dude. It's always them talking about. Like, I've never once seen a couple have a baby. And then the girl's like, God, I can't believe that I have to wait six weeks to have sex again.

They're not thinking about that at all. They're thinking about getting their body back. they're thinking about moving through all the transitions of having a baby. They're thinking about the baby. They're thinking about the baby. And yet every single time we have a conversation, it doesn't matter who the dude is, if he's likable, if he's been a great guy up until now, that's what they talk about immediately. It's like, dude, just have one conversation where you're like, yeah, Jesse, I mean,

it's tough. Like neither of us have ever had a baby before. So we don't know what we're doing. We're losing sleep. We're all over the place. Our schedules are completely fucked. We don't know what's going on. And then you can throw in like, and then we have to deal with the.

fact that we can't have sex for a couple of weeks. Like that's the one thing that I feel like we might be able to like do to relieve some of the pressure, have some fun with each other, and then go back to the fact that you're not getting any sleep. Like that's okay for a throwaway comment as long as you're not putting the onus on Kristen. Like just don't do that. And instead we have this same conversation.

It's fucking copy and paste with every dude on Bravo, every dude in reality TV. I just don't know what the hell I'm supposed to do with my life for six weeks. I promise you, you have gone six weeks, probably not by choice, without having sex. before and you made it through that dude just live yeah or maybe it's been so amazing to see her be a mom you know like watching her it's so incredible like there's he didn't say any of that stuff it was like i know you're in the trenches right now and it's like the like the glum of of trying to feel normal again but don't make it to the point where you're like oh it's going to build resentment it's like fuck that oh it's a wild thing to say especially with just like the fact that you're

talking to Jesse could not be there couldn't be a worse person to have this convoy within Jesse because he's going to back up everything you're saying like yeah dude I I get it I totally get it Michelle wouldn't have sex with me for like two weeks after we had a kid yeah it was tough it was tough to watch yeah tough look let's go back to L coyote we were obviously here last year interestingly enough for this scene now something that Janet says like kind of made me laugh the irony in this sentence and I'll get there shortly, but Britney arrives, and that's when we find out, okay, they're not officially dating yet.

We find out that Brandon's got a big dick. We were all asking, so I'm glad that we confirmed that. Thanks, Britt. But the most fascinating part of this conversation, because we didn't like Aaron from the jump. Like, we never liked Aaron. We saw him at that party. His first intro to the show was telling Jesse something about being apparent, which is wild,

especially considering that you broke up with Michelle later. whatever. She's talking about the breakup. And she's like, yeah, you know, Isabella cried. It was really sad. She, you know, she felt guilty, which sucks. Like, I'm sure that's a lot to handle. And she's like, it came out of nowhere because he wanted a fitness girl. Remember how these two got together from their secret hikes with coffee and honey or whatever the fuck they were doing. So this comes out of nowhere because she's like, I walk four or five times a week. I go on hikes, which is 100% fitness. And he's like, It's not enough.

It's not enough. Sorry. And broke up with her for that. And then the moment they break up, this dude goes on Instagram and follows all of these Instagram models, which led me to this. This fucking idiot, this loser that was never good on TV that was like making honey jokes and all that stupid shit. He's not a looker either. He's a hard four, maybe. And in L.A., he's probably a two.

This guy was on TV. He got a little, ever so slight bit of cloud. And he thinks he's somebody now. He thinks that he can follow these Instagram models and be like, oh, who's this guy, this tall drink of water with the honey? No, you're tall, gangly and weird looking. Like, the fact that you were with Michelle, you way out kicked your coverage there, buddy. I don't know who this guy thinks he is, but he 100% got an inflated ego from being on Bravo, which is objectively hysterical. Yeah, that's exactly what happened here.

He has to use FaceTune to make his eyes not look crazy that he was just doing like a bunch of cocaine in the background or that his honey is infused with cocaine, allegedly. Allegedly. Yeah, for a guy like that to just have one season where he's barely in it and he's on Bravo, talking to other people, I guarantee you one person.

He probably followed an Instagram, like influence or whatever, and they followed back. And he's like, whoa. Is this door, is this door open for me? Oh, go. See, Michelle. This is what I want to do. And it's not going to work because now you're not on Bravo anymore.

And they're talking about you in a very derogatory way. So it's just not going to work for you. I need as much as I don't care about his life, I do need updates on his life to see how he crashes and burns. Because that's definitely going to happen. Yeah. Yeah. Go back to your honey, you bumble bitch. Yeah. No, but the rest of this fucking conversation is,

Brittany talking about her life the whole time. And then she even has the audacity to say, oh, I'm sorry, guys. Like, I feel like I've been talking about myself this whole time. What's going on with you? You have. And we don't want you to talk about yourself this whole time. I don't care about your life, really.

It's just, it's not interesting to me. It's boring. And it just makes you look like the worst friend. And you are a worst friend. But you keep shining this spotlight on you because then when you finally have time to talk about somebody else, you keep bringing it back to you. and you're talking about Brandon or whatever it might be. It's a tough watch when she's around people.

It's just really tough to watch. I agree. And the conversation shifts over to the Doty and Janet thing. I didn't love Michelle being like, you know, it's kind of odd that she's carrying her baby and yelling at the same time. It's like, ah, wasn't she like two months postpartum here? Can we maybe give her a little bit of a breather? Like maybe a little bit of a little bit of grace guys.

Like you had kids. You understand this whole process. Like I thought that was a weird line from Michelle. of all people. Now, Brittany being like, I feel like I definitely dropped the ball. You think you dropped all of the balls. There's no balls left to play with because you dropped them all. And that's where she drops the people pleaser line. I was like, that's not the same thing. You don't get to cop out with the people pleaser thing because you're too much of a coward to put your foot down and say, hey, Janet, you can't come to this one because Doty's going to be there. Or, hey, Doty, you can't come to this

one because Janet's going to be there. Or, hey, I want to invite both of you. Do you think you'd be okay if she's there no okay then maybe sit this one out there's so many other ways to do it then you're both invited and then you lie to both of them saying like oh she probably won't show up like she just i don't understand how she has friends you know and then for janet to go i knew this was going to happen and it's annoying it's like everything she did last season just swept away somehow because she's like you know camera was sobbing and that is sad that the kids involved and this. I agree with that. But she's like, I haven't felt like that's in seventh grade. That's the last time I was bullied. I was like, dude, we were in this restaurant last year when you were being a bully.

So you can't cut the whole, like, I get it. You're allowed to be a victim in a situation in which you were victimized in some way, shape, or form. But it doesn't wipe the slate clean of everything else you've done. That's what drives me nuts about Janet is like she forgets all the things that she's done, even though we get to hear about her therapeutic journey this year. Can't wait. I'm in therapy, it's life changing, blah, blah, blah. But then you say the same shit. Yeah, it's going to be very interesting to watch these conversations that take place, too,

because the layers for Janet and Brittany talking are always going to be bizarre. Because we actually agree with you for once, Janet, that Britney is a bad friend. She put you in a bad position. Then you start talking about things. And it's like, oh, yeah, that's why we don't like you. That's why you do these things. You put yourself in that position. yes, Brittany also put you in that position,

but you wouldn't be in that position in the first place if you weren't a terrible person. So I don't really feel bad for you. When we go on the flip side and we have a conversation with Britney and Kristen, that's going to be more interesting. That's going to be a little bit more telling. And I'm sure other people will probably get involved. Zach's going to have something to say at some point.

I guarantee it. That's going to be funny to watch. But we're going to have to see how Brittany reacts to being called a bad friend. When Kristen does it, everybody else is going to kind of back up on that one. Like, okay, yeah, she is a bad friend. for this, this and this. When Janet does it, she's not going to get any support. But if we can have that all-encompassing scene about Brittany with the two of them,

that'll be more interesting to watch. It's just funny because I'm like, oh, yeah, good. We can call Brittany a bad friend. Oh, Janet, you're talking too much. Oh, yeah, you did put yourself in that position. I don't feel bad for you. But Britney's still a bad friend. Both are true.

Yeah, both things can be true. And I think you're right because maybe that'll be enough for her to realize. because Janet and Doty could not be on further sides of the street. Yeah. And yet they're both calling you a bad friend. That should wake you up because it's like, oh, I'm not doing anything right. These two can't even get along and they're both still mad at me. So I didn't appease anybody.

Yes. So quote unquote, people pleaser, no, you're not. You're just a coward. Yes. Well, let's go to the old sip and see. And arguably the best way to kick off a sip and see is by having somebody like Tom Schwartz say, I really want a baby. And I will give this to Schwartz.

I think he'd be a great dad. I don't think he's ready to be a dad, but I do think that when the time comes, he would be a good father. I'll give him that much. Danny wants another one, which is insane. That's ridiculous.

Five under five is just a wild ask. Nia said she's done. You guys are good. You got your four. You're in Santa Clarita. Everybody wins. Stop having babies, maybe. But I,

how do you feel about old T-Schwa, and Michelle? Weirdly makes sense. I don't know why. I don't think, like, if you ask me to write down why it makes sense, I don't think I'd have more than like one sentence, but it does make a lot of sense. Now, I do, I do think the version of Michelle that we've been getting in the last couple of seasons is different than who she actually is.

I think she's under a lot of stress with the divorce and all the things that are going off, Jesse. So I do think that she can be an enjoyable person to be around. She might be just enough. I mean, Schwartz is quirky enough for both of them, but she might be able to match that a little bit. And we kind of talk about it too, where it's like, yeah, opposite to track.

It could work. It might work. I don't think it's going to work. I don't think the timing is right. But I do think it could work in a perfect world. It could be like a fun little fling, you know, and I think that Schwartz is unsurious enough that if you guys hooked up a few times, it probably wouldn't even be awkward after the fact.

Yeah, I remember that one thing. time we we blinked but i'm curious to see where they go because she leans into it too she's like we'll go do something yeah do something she's she's picking up what he's putting down so time will tell but it was a very awkward ask for the date too where it's like oh my god i love that spa we should go to that spot together sometime but we should also go here and grab some food afterwards and maybe a drink or something in there it was very like doing those things too yeah but somehow it was reciprocated i don't i don't know how we got to where we were because we never should have gotten there but we did and that's probably why I'm feeling like, yeah, you know what, this could work.

Yeah, they're kind of cute. Kind of cute together. Never would have thought. But now we get to Lacey. We've obviously seen and heard a lot about Lacey, especially last season with the cease and desist that she decided to send to Michelle and the fact that she wouldn't have a conversation. I don't know. It's all convoluted. And we're also getting Michelle's side and Jesse's side.

The truth lies somewhere in the middle on this one. So it's hard to understand fully. But Michelle doesn't like her at all, which I kind of understand because of the cease and desist, amongst other things. She met an ex-boyfriend of hers who had also received a C&D. So I understand that there's a little bit of, you know, the score and X kind of vibe going on here, which is fine. Yeah. But I kind of, I don't know. I think that Michelle is reading her best.

than the rest of the group because we look across the party and Lacey seems to have ingratiated herself into this group. Yeah, it was kind of interesting because it does feel like the rest of the group completely forgot about last year. Yeah. And they don't really remember the whole cease and desist situation. Now, obviously, Janet was somewhat involved in that as well, or at least she was egging Michelle on.

So that probably didn't help. And obviously Janet's not there right now. So for the other half of the group, and we watched that weird friendship start to bud, between Jesse, Kristen, I guess Zach is somewhat involved in that as well, where everybody kind of came together on Jesse's side. So it does make sense that they would be friends with Lacey. And maybe he said give her a fair shake, we'll hear everything out. And she all, she had everything pretty much prepared about like what happened.

But I'm kind of right now on Michelle's side with this whole thing. Same. Where I'm like, yeah, I feel like everybody did forget about that very quickly. And if you're talking, which I don't think that she should be talking to and I don't believe that she just happened to run into one of her exes. I do think you probably found out who her ex was and I talked to him about it. I'm going to leave that one alone for now. But I do think that everybody kind of moved on from all of that very quickly.

For somebody who wasn't on the show who was sending C&Ds constantly, that's kind of crazy to be like, yeah, let's see where this goes. Like I would understand if you guys are friends with Jesse, you want to see where it goes, but they're not, it's almost like Michelle's like, wait, remember like eight months ago when she was doing all this crazy shit? Everybody's just like, yeah, we moved on. you didn't move on from that what the hell so i don't know when she gets into all the specifics about and jesse kind of chimes in as well about how lacy was reaching out about what she should do

setting boundaries with the kid i think that's the right move but you know how it was presented to us from jesse's point of view was she did all the right things which yeah it sounds like she did all the right things but she did it after all the season desist business and all the other shit you already got off on the wrong foot you probably should have kind of steered back to the good side and then had the talks about boundaries and Jesse should be involved in that, of course. So I do think that they probably skipped a couple of steps and then Lacey decided, oh, I'm going to be on the show,

reached out to Michelle to have this good conversation. And Michelle's like, fuck you. Like, what are we talking about here? Yeah, and I think that it's also a crazy ask from Jesse to be like, just talk to her. It's like, I mean, that's a loaded ask, dude. And like, yeah, in a perfect world, you want all of the parents to get along and like this modern family situation.

Sure. I get that's end game. right like that's what you hope for you're not even divorced yet you're at this point I'm asking the conversation to occur I think you guys have been separated for a few months maybe so I think that's all I

I think Michelle's well within her crazy shit yeah she's well with her right to do this but she yeah I mean she did bounce back some crazy shit and that's kind of what we get into at the end of the episode as well both parties are at fault I'm not going to say one is doing better than the other one And it's just the situation, the relationship is not there.

So Jesse can't be like, go talk to her. We need to have a modern family. Like, no, it might get there eventually, but you have to do a lot of things right. So I think that's a crazy ask. But Michelle, I think she's just dumbfounded. Like, what the fuck? I feel like this woman kind of presented herself as this. And it was terrible.

And I didn't really want to be around her. And now she's acting like she's a good person. It's kind of weird that she's able to do this. And everybody's buying into it. So it kind of makes Michelle feel crazy. But if we remember correctly, they were both at fault pretty much the whole time because Michelle was talking constant shit even before Lacey was on there.

So that's why the C&D came and the whole thing got crazy. Yeah. And like there's layers for sure. But I do think that it's valid to point out. It's like this chick never wanted to be on camera and then boom, end of the season and she shows up. And you can't like, you know, Jesse's fucking Jeremiah, Germain, that punk bitch, God.

If he ruins this show, I swear, I swear what he's done to Beverly Hills. he should go to jail. Like, it's just a travesty. But anyway, I think that it's valid to point out that she didn't want to be on TV and boom, there she is. And now this season, suddenly she's in on the show. Like, it would say a lot more about who she is as a person if this season comes around her and Jesse are together.

And she's like, I don't really want to be on it. That I'd be like, okay, then she seems genuine. This to me seems like thirsty girlfriend wants to be on TV. I agree with all of that. Yeah. And I do think that like the group that she's in right now at the Sipancy is not the group, unfortunately, that you should be talking to about this. Like maybe obviously Jesse's trying to force the issue.

I think we're going to get a better conversation where we'll actually have some people like a Brittany, you know, like Janet. I need Zach's run down. Yeah, Zach needs to give the rundown. Lala, again, she had a pretty good first episode. So she wasn't really getting involved, but she was playing devil's advocate a little bit. So she is probably privy to all of it. So it'll be interesting to watch when this gets brought back to the rest of the group.

Because where we are now is all Kristen's side, which is Jesse's side. So they're not going to side with Michelle. They're going to side with Jesse and Lacey. So when we move forward, I'll be interested to see how everybody else's take on the whole thing goes. I agree. I will give Michelle props. I thought she handled the conversation well. She did.

So props for that. But yeah, I think Michelle handled herself well. Yeah, then like that also did not invoke confidence in who Lacey is. She was giving like such like polished answers. Like, you know, everyone's happy. It's like, all right. Who are you actually lady? Like I don't believe anything you're saying right now.

So time will tell with that one. We'll see. But I do remember there was a lot of negative things said about our last season, not just from Michelle, but I thought there was some other shit going on too. So I don't know. But it was a solid premiere. like I said, I feel like they picked up right where they went off,

left off. I agree with you. You pointed out a few things throughout this episode where it's like, okay, yeah, we're in a good spot. There's a few things that we need to not repeat and hammer home. That will, it will turn the show in a direction. We don't want it to go.

But as of right now, I think we're in a good spot. Yeah, I agree with that. But because we're still playing catch up from the whole debacle on Summer house. We did not put up questions, but we will have questions for you next week. And we should be back on track, back on schedule with everything. That really threw us for a loop because we're trying to get you guys all the info 24-7, 365. That's what the pros do. But we will get your questions

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