Bros & Shows - Slam Pigs and Microdosing (RHORI Full Recap)

Episode Date: May 20, 2026

What's up bros? Who doesn't crave a cracka when driving - especially when driving apparently makes you so anxious that you're going to pass out? Well, it seems those crackers didn't give Alicia enough... confidence to go through with her plan to bring this new evidence to Rulla's attention which begs the question, will Rulla ever want to hear all of the evidence against her cheating husband? Elsewhere, we have a strict siren ordinance that leads to an incredible blow up between Rosie & Kelsey and we're here for that! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Every week, I just assume at some point, we're going to get it done. There's no way that we can continue at this pace of excellence. And every week, they prove me wrong. This show is incredible. These women are so good that you could have an entire episode with virtually no input from like two of them. And you're going to get a full episode out of it. It's incredible. I just don't know, I don't know when the end of the road is.
Starting point is 00:00:28 And I don't think it's anywhere in sight. And again, we just have to point out, just enjoy the times that you're in. Let us worry about what the end of the road looks like, because we're going to be able to see it. But right now, no clue. As there's a drive in a deep left field by Castellanos. Oh, man, it's 8 o'clock. And so that'll make it a... I don't need the spotlight.
Starting point is 00:00:51 I shine just fine. Hi, I'm karma. And yes, I am a bitch. Bravo Bros. Good evening, everybody. Welcome back to another. episode of Brof Bros, your favorite podcast from the Bros for everybody for whoever wants to listen. I'm your co-host, Steele Russell, joined as always by the one and only shoot a motherfucker and
Starting point is 00:01:11 Maguda. What's up, dude? My favorite, favorite watch of the week, every week. I just can't wait to get to it. I don't care what day it is. I might even watch it live, which just goes to show you how much I enjoy the show. Same. It's just so good.
Starting point is 00:01:26 I mean, it's every week. It's like a different story, too. It's incredible. I don't know, I don't know how they do it. I don't know what's in the water up there in Rhode Island. I have no idea, but they are so seasoned. They are veterans already, and they just started this. That's what I think I'm most impressed with is their housewifery.
Starting point is 00:01:43 We don't see rookies operated this level across the board. Like, it takes a lot of housewives years to get this comfortable. These ladies just stepped into the spotlight, and it's like they've been doing it for years. They are, if you told me, if I had never watched Housewives before, And I watched like an OG Jersey episode or like something like that. And then I watched Rhode Island. And somebody told me that they just started this season. I wouldn't believe you.
Starting point is 00:02:09 I would, I would compare it to those. Like, that's how stellar this season's been so far. I honestly think that the scene we get at the end of this episode between Rosie and Kelsey would be the top tier that a new show would come. Like, it would be like,
Starting point is 00:02:24 all right, things are starting to come together. Like, they're starting to piece the puzzle together and figure out how you're supposed to do things on this show. And that would be the big blow up moment of the season. We'd be talking about it. We'd be sitting here talking about how, thank God, they figured it out.
Starting point is 00:02:37 We're going to have a great show on our hands. They've already done this like four times at this point. I mean, just go to like, just circle Rula. Rula was supposed to be a friend of. But because of everything going on with Brian, they're like, you know what? Let's just throw her in there. Let's just see what the hell happens. And the scene of that dinner party scene is it's going to live rent free in my mind for years to come.
Starting point is 00:02:58 It was so strange and so funny at the same time. And I don't know. It's just they're in that good window. And I think a lot of their personalities mesh, where they're in that window of this is who they actually are. And they should have been on TV for so much longer than they have been. And I'm just looking for the years to come. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:16 And I think a lot of it goes back to they all know each other so well, like all the way back to high school. And we say it all the time. When you have a cast, Southern Hospitality, great example. whole group of friends, friends for a long time. We can tell at home. And it's almost disrespectful from Bravo to throw together a cast like the new Roney and expect us to be like, this is great. There's no chemistry.
Starting point is 00:03:43 When there's chemistry, you have a good show when you try to force feed us people. It doesn't work. And this is so indicative of good casting, taking the time to find a good group, and putting it out there. Like, I don't know. I was not expecting to like it this much. I think another big part of it for you and I is the Jersey aspect. It just feels so familiar.
Starting point is 00:04:07 But that's not the case for everybody. Not everyone has that feeling of like nostalgia to it. And they still love it. So I agree with like the dinner party scene. That was remarkable television. Like it was so uncomfortable and weird. And Brian is such a fucking weird. Sorry, I had a work call.
Starting point is 00:04:24 We can have some fun now. you fucking like no dude it's gross immediately strikes me as a guy who's got a weird dungeon in his basement like and I expect that to be the next thing out of his mouth when he's going through his drug regimen which is bizarre I can't wait to get to that but yeah it I don't know what it is like even the husband's chiming in now and again it's like you're funny too you're a weird person too you should have been on reality TV
Starting point is 00:04:48 five years ago so I don't know what it is they just have that it factor and it's not just like you said it's the nostalgia factor it's it's Jersey accents that really draws in. But everybody's enjoying the show. Everybody wants more of this show. They want more specifically of the people on this show in so many different ways. And there's so many different things going on. I mean, the one thing that we point to and everybody who's watching the show is pointed to,
Starting point is 00:05:09 at least those of us who are online chronically, is what's going on with Kelsey. And that doesn't that doesn't even matter. That could be a huge holdup for so many people with the fact that she actually broke up with her boyfriend. He wasn't really a boyfriend. He was really just a sugar daddy. We called that, by the way. Hands up. We called that.
Starting point is 00:05:25 It doesn't affect anything, though. It truly doesn't. I mean, yes, it's going to affect things when, you know, we get to the reunion and Rosie and her going at it and all of this comes to fruition and all the news about what she was doing with her ex-boyfriend comes to light. That's going to be a big thing at the reunion. But for the show itself, like, that is something that would be a huge holdup that would hamper a lot of things. And we'd end up talking about it for hours on end and be like, well, what else is fake? What else is fake? That's the only thing that smells.
Starting point is 00:05:50 Everything else is perfect. Everything else is great. I agree. it's incredible really because this would take over a season all the stuff coming out about Kelsey it would take over the season nobody would care about current events or sorry vice versa they wouldn't care about what's going on the show they'd be focused on current events and yes the stuff coming out is very titillating like she's allegedly a high-end escort she allegedly moved out of the house months before they started filming there's more stuff too and I don't fucking care
Starting point is 00:06:24 I'm actually excited because you're giving people ammo for the reunion. And we're going to have a whole different aspect that we didn't even talk about during the season. So we're going to have a brand new reunion. Like that's great. Awesome. Thanks, guys. The one thing I would say, just what shows on right now, Kaye, Michelle should take some notes about Rhode Island. She should watch Rhode Island and take some notes.
Starting point is 00:06:46 That's a really good point. I mean, that's what you expect. And that's why I go back to Rosie and Kelsey being like, that's what. we would expect for a first season with people just feeling it out. They just found the cast that's just made for TV. I mean, everything is just perfect right now. And I don't think,
Starting point is 00:07:03 I don't know. It's just, it's the pessimist of me that looks for the cracks in the armor. It looks for the, you know, where's the, where's the issue that we're going to have that's going to arise? Or we see it coming from a mile away.
Starting point is 00:07:13 We're like, all right, that's going to be phony. That's bullshit. You're phoning it in. You're playing it up for the camera. No one's doing that. Like even like Rosie and Kelsey are the two that you could probably point to
Starting point is 00:07:22 and be like, all right, is this authentic? That was very authentic. That was actually maybe, weirdly enough, the most authentic of the season. And there's so many things to choose from. It's just crazy. You get producers involved in an element in that regard. It was crazy.
Starting point is 00:07:36 I think the coolest thing that I'm seeing is, you know, we talk about a lot with house wifery of like, okay, let's not get stuck on things. Let's get into something. Let's move on from it. They check that box in episode one or two. my other hold up individually was like okay rosy you need to be able to take your confessions and put him in action i need you to step up to the plate she did boom done like i have no qualms and i could do this we could do this for another 30 minutes but we should probably dive into the episode um qualms is
Starting point is 00:08:09 funny too because that just reminds me of widows bay greatest show ever it's so good yeah if you're not watching widow's bay on apple tv you're missing out it's the perfect combination of horror humor, dark comedy. It's phenomenal. So go watch that. But we're not watching that right now. We're watching Rhode Island. And we start out with Alicia driving, which is I get anxious now because I don't think she should be on the road. She seems dangerous. I was hoping that was a four leaf clover. It was not. It looked like a dandelion. But I wanted it to be a four leaf clover because she needs luck. Like her going through her regiment to drive. And you live in Rhode Island. The furthest place is like 45 minutes away.
Starting point is 00:08:51 It's terrifying how she's talking. She blows through two stop signs and gets mad at the stop signs. Why are that two in a row? Because there is. It's an intersection. Slow down. What's going on? Why do we let her drive?
Starting point is 00:09:03 Billy, get her a driver, please. Yeah, I think that's probably what we're going to have to end up with. But Billy also made some strides in this episode for me, not only for this, but also for the dinner party. He seems like he just absolutely loves Alicia. We're going to find out more about what's going on. And we found that a little bit when they were up. in Newport and Alicia was talking about her commitment issues and not wanting to get married because
Starting point is 00:09:23 of what happened with her parents and all of that. He is now, I think I read him wrong. I think of the first couple episodes it was like, oh, yeah, we got another piece of shit husband. It's probably boys of Brian. He's probably friends with Jerry. He goes out on his boat and he's banging girls on the boat. I don't get that anymore. I really don't.
Starting point is 00:09:39 I think he absolutely loves Alicia. But going through all this, and that's the funniest thing that you can find online now is people just post her cameos to TikTok. Every single person brings up the fact. that she hit a woman. And every single time she tells that story, there's another wrinkle. We're going to get this full story.
Starting point is 00:09:55 And it's going to be absolutely amazing. I imagine she's going to talk about at the reunion a bunch. It's so funny to me. I mean, and watching her inaction behind the wheel, grabbing crackers, like, I need another crack.
Starting point is 00:10:05 I got to load up on crackers. I need them all over the place. And you would think she's doing a bit to try to get a sponsorship with Ritz? No, she just absolutely needs a cracker. Because when she feels like she's getting too far along in the road or whatever the hell it might be, She feels like she's going to pass out so she needs a cracker.
Starting point is 00:10:22 That is very funny and also very dangerous and scary. Yes. Like we're watching it. I'm entertained. I mean, this is funny, but I'm concerned about everybody that lives there. We cross if we're ever like,
Starting point is 00:10:35 because we drive up to Boston or whatever it might be. If we cross into the state lines of Rhode Island, I am on alert for a. Yeah, I'm on a swift. I am scared. Yep. Well,
Starting point is 00:10:45 they start talking about Rula and that whole thing. obviously they got some news when they're at the Newport Mansion and it's on at least she had to bring it up to rule as she was nominated by the group pretty much and she's talking to Billy about it. Billy, of course, like, well, how do you know? It's like, all right, Bill. Like, we know. Okay, dude. And she starts talking about Joe Ellen's involvement. And I do agree. I know what she's doing. She's trying to sidestep and not have to do this, but we've talked about that too. Like, why is Joe Ellen so invested? Why does she want and need to push this through? I don't think that her and Rula were, I think they were tight before, but it does not give me at all that they
Starting point is 00:11:22 were like besties or we would have heard that by now. Like, oh, I can't believe our friendship's gone. Like, no one talks about that. We still don't have enough information about where Joe Ellen's getting this. I mean, we've kind of come to the conclusion that she's part of a group chat with other friends in Rhode Island who were taking videos. But like last week, we got a video from what looked like it was it inside his car? Like, there's so many missing pieces. There's so many gaps in this information that we're getting where we should be getting the full video we should be getting who the video is from where it was taken who took it all of those things and instead it's like oh we've got a video of him inside the house hugging his mistress looks like he's lingering he's there
Starting point is 00:12:01 for five minutes he's grabbing her ass it's like okay as much as i don't want to see that we have to see that don't describe it to me but also who took the video who sent it to joel and when did it happened so again i'm still going back to the same conclusion she's in a group chat which makes total sense in a small neighborhood where you know everybody you grew up with these people, their high school friends, whatever they are, and they're all talking about Brian cheating on Rolla. That's all it is. Now, why Jo Ellen has the need to go and run to everybody else when she's already been kind of smacked on the wrist before for bringing this information to light, I don't know. She seems to have a weird, maybe it's a weird kink. She's just into it.
Starting point is 00:12:34 Oh, okay. Well, no kink shaving here. You know that. But moving on, we get to Rosie and Rich and the house and this house update. We did get confirmation later that it's, actually 5,000 square feet now, not 8,000 square feet. They're adding 5,000. It's still convoluted. They're adding, but the original was three. Okay, see, that's confusing as well. But they're talking about Kelsey, and, you know, we've, we've been saying, and I think
Starting point is 00:13:00 everyone's saying it that's watching. It just seems like a lot of projection. It seems like a lot of things that Rosie has, Kelsey does not, and therefore Kelsey wants those things. But I did get the vibe from this scene, and it could have been hindsight because I saw the preview of them going at it, that this was setting up for Rosie to finally plan her feet and be like, all right, I'm sick of this shit and finally clap back. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:27 I think that's kind of what I got from this whole thing. I mean, it could be a storyline that you could just be sitting there questioning. I mean, she's talked to Richie about it. Richie has his feelings about it. And he kind of echoes what all of us at home are saying. Like, who the fuck cares? Like, why is she so invested? She must be projecting.
Starting point is 00:13:42 But it's become a mainstay in a very weird way where we talk about it a lot. lot every episode. And obviously, I do think with given the knowledge of the end of this episode that we're probably going to put it to bed for the most part, at least talking about the square footage of a house. And I've, I've been engaged. I don't really know how to explain it. Like, it should just be such a weird thing that just doesn't fucking matter. But instead, I'm like, no, wait, wait, wait, how many square feet? Yeah, go measure it actually. Take that. We were already, we talked about it the first or second episode that we were doing when we recorded about the house and how we were like wondering what it was going to look like. I got to see this thing. We were heavily invested in it
Starting point is 00:14:19 to begin with. So it might be part of that. Maybe there's some residue lingering in our thoughts, but I don't know what it is. I'm still heavily invested in all of this. And obviously, you keep coming back to Kelsey, who keeps talking about it. And that seems to be the issue where it's like, okay, yeah, we were able to have like a good powwow at the end of the Newport trip, where at least we let bygones be bygones and we can kind of move on. But I'm still kind of wondering why she's so invested in the square footage of my house. And we find out later that she's still very invested in the square footage of the house in a very weird way.
Starting point is 00:14:51 But Richie getting involved. Yeah, of course, he's going to defend it a little bit, but he's defending Rosie. And it just is what it is. I still want to see that house at the end of the day. We need to see the house. We need to see the final product. But we get to Kelsey's new crib and she's setting things up with her mom and her sister. And we're running through just the outlook on life, where we're headed, her future, if you will.
Starting point is 00:15:12 now mom didn't know that the ex is still paying for the place and Kelsey reiterates again i was in a relationship for 10 years i'm owed things i don't think so but that's okay you got it and i do think that you know he should shell out a little bit as you pay for your apartment that's fine i get it like you're getting back on your feet so you need a little wiggle room you can't just jump out you haven't had a career in a while so i get it but it is funny to hear her talk about all of these things in a way where it's like, I'm ready for my independence. I'm ready to do this. I'm like, yeah, you're not because you're not paying for shit. This is not cutting the cord. This is actually
Starting point is 00:15:53 enabling and making this even more difficult because you're still relying on this dude for money. Yeah, not only money, but also car payment, car insurance. The rent, obviously. I imagine, yeah, I imagine the list is very, very long for what this dude is still paying. And if he decides to cut it off, you're screwed. There's nothing you can do. I mean, I mean, you can live on the show, I guess, but it's the first season. First year. You're not getting paid a ton. So that's going to be very difficult.
Starting point is 00:16:20 Maybe you want to warm up to Ashley a little bit and find out how the influencing game is going to go. And that's pretty much the next scene anyway. So that could be a good route, but you have this beef with Rosie that you're holding on to. So you're not really thinking ahead. This doesn't strike me as a woman who's going through all these things with a five-year plan in the back pocket. Like there is no plan at all. Now, I would have talked about her mom real quick because her mom gives me very weird vibes. Very, very weird vibes.
Starting point is 00:16:46 I don't know what it is. You know, there were some rumors that her mom was very excited that she was shacking up with this guy and didn't really care because she just liked the money, whatever it might have been. It might just be something that Rosie and her crew are perpetuating right now. But the mom's on this show, aside from Ashley's mom, they all kind of creep me out. There's always something going on where I'm not really sure what the hell is going to happen. So I don't know what it is, but they were having such like a, very in-depth conversation about this. And it didn't strike me as a mom who was like,
Starting point is 00:17:14 all right, you better figure it the fuck out. It was more like, what are you going to do? You better go back with him. Like, at least yeah, Billy over here who just shows up immediately as soon as we start talking about
Starting point is 00:17:22 Bill. Dude. Jesus Christ, buddy. That's, that's the outlook on Kelsey, I would imagine for the first couple seasons is, all right,
Starting point is 00:17:31 we're moving on from the boyfriend. He's not paying for stuff. But Bill is. And I've got this new career where I'm doing hair and doing it on Instagram or whatever. maybe. I don't know. She's going to be very involved in a lot of the issues moving forward. So I think that's going to be enough for her. But her personal storyline is going to be a dream wreck. I agreed. And like that's the thing that I don't think she recognizes in trying to create defenses for
Starting point is 00:17:56 herself and justify things. She opens the door to way more questions and way more cannon potter because not a lot of it tracks. I don't know why you keep inserting yourself into these situations. you're putting yourself in bad spots. I don't know why you're questioning, Rosie. I don't know what this beef is. And when you go to a confessional, she tries to always place blame elsewhere. Like, oh, yeah, well, you know,
Starting point is 00:18:22 I'm not jealous. She's whatever. It's like, that's not what it's giving at all. And I think maybe it's false confidence, or maybe this is the kind of delusional that we want. Like that, if she's able to maintain this through these things, like even the Rosie thing, and she still think she's in the right,
Starting point is 00:18:40 she still thinks that she hasn't done anything wrong that other people are the problem. I'm cool with that. I like that kind of delusion. That's fun. Yeah, it just has a sprinkle of, you start to get a little worried
Starting point is 00:18:52 about their actual lives. You know what I mean? Yeah. Sort of like, who's the closest person? Concerned uncle, if you will. Yeah. I mean,
Starting point is 00:19:01 Kim Zolsiak comes to mind where it's like, I don't know how the fuck you're going to get in your life. That's, that's cool. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know why she just popped in my brain.
Starting point is 00:19:11 But, yeah, I mean, as long as we can kind of steer clear of I'm not actually worried about you in a day-to-day life, I actually really enjoy your delusion. I'm good with that. I'm totally fine with that. It's just once you start bringing in all of those real aspects, which I know people always get on us because it's reality TV. They want to show their lives. I don't want to watch depressing shit. I'm sorry. I want to watch stupid shit.
Starting point is 00:19:31 I think with like Billy, that's tough because he's like talking like everything's normal. and mom and sis and Kelsey are talking about what this other dude's paying for. It's like, I bet he wants to get you off that cop payment. You fucking think this is such a bizarre setup for a new relationship. And Billy is pretty much planted in the cock chair, smiling. Like, which I don't know. It's supportive, I guess. It's weird.
Starting point is 00:20:01 Yeah. And every time that I want to think that Bill is a normal dude, he's very clearly not a normal dude. if he's been hanging around with Kelsey. So I don't really know. I mean, I want to say, like you just said, he wants her to be independent so he can start actually being her only boyfriend. As, you know, his title card changes when he walks to the door.
Starting point is 00:20:21 It's his or it's Kelsey's a normal sentence. Yeah. I don't know. It's just every time I think about him, I'm like, he seems like a normal dude. But then I have to remember that he's absolutely not a normal dude. So I don't know what he's thinking in this situation. I don't know. He might actually be happy that she's still getting stuff paid for.
Starting point is 00:20:37 He's like, oh, it's kind of more of the same. At least I don't have to walk into that 18,000 square foot house and feel weird about it. You've got your own space here that he also pays for. But there's no cameras in here because I imagine that her ex-boyfriend probably had cameras everywhere. I don't know why. I just imagine this dude's an absolute creep. But yeah, I don't, I don't know. We need to learn more about Bill.
Starting point is 00:20:57 And I think we will. I think we're prims to meet a lot more about Bill. Yeah, I think he's going to be a bigger part of this show. I'm actually looking forward to it because I need to know more. I need to understand. You know what I mean? Until we get like a little far and then we're like, you know what?
Starting point is 00:21:11 Yeah, too much. Didn't really want to meet Bill that bad. No, no, it turns out Bill is a creep. Who knew? But allegedly. But we get to Ashley and we're just getting more kind of the fundamentals of her day to day.
Starting point is 00:21:24 This is her doing her influencing thing with her friend Lizzie. We get an update on Dawson. He's doing better. He's doing some breathing treatments. He had a cold induced asthma, but doing better, which is great. And here's my thing. thing with Ashley's storyline. I like Ashley and I do think she has a spot on this show. And I think that she's finding her way. She's getting closer with the group and I like that.
Starting point is 00:21:45 We talk about Audrey's a lot. We talk about what's his name? The husband a lot. Justin, Jeremy. Jared. Thank you. Yeah. I don't know. Maybe by the end of the season, you'll get his name. Yeah, I will see. Fingers crossed. But my whole point is this is such a sidestep from what everything else is happening on this show that I either need a lot more of it. Like, let's go to, let's figure this out. Like, we need, I already forgot as Jared. We need Jared to be an influencer because he's getting offered so much more money. Like, okay, like that's actually interesting to me.
Starting point is 00:22:20 Let's push that and bring him in. Let's talk. Like, I feel like we always get a side convo where we mention Audrey's. We mentioned Jared and he's not happy and that she wants him to shift. But we don't get a lot of like, how are we going to change that? Or what's going to happen? Or bringing Jared into the fold so we can talk. about these things.
Starting point is 00:22:38 Yeah, I don't really know what to think about Ashley at this point. It does seem like what you said, whenever we go to a scene that's just Ashley with no one else involved, it feels like on a scripted television show when you get like a cliffhanger in the most important storyline and then you start the next episode, you're so excited and all of a sudden it's like a bottle episode where you're like, oh, right? Yes, exactly. I guess we do need to find out the background, but like I was looking forward to this. That's sort of where we are with every time we go to Ashley and it's Ashley.
Starting point is 00:23:06 and Jared or just Ashley or whatever it might be. I agree with you. I think we need to put the Audrey Singh to bed. I'm already over the Audrey's thing. And I need her to get involved with the rest of the group more than just Rosie, which if you read the current news or all those bloggers that put out all the stuff going on with the current cast, she doesn't hang out with any of them. She just avoids them, which is not good.
Starting point is 00:23:29 And I don't really know where she fits in in the show because I think, and we talked about this before, she was brought on as a cast member, not as a. resident of Rhode Island where everybody knew her, but more as a draw for people from watching The Bachelorette or Bachelor of Paradise or whatever it was. Because then all of a sudden you've got all these new people clicking in. But if the show is as good as it is, you don't really need Ashley anymore. But maybe they'll keep her along at least for another season just to see how she fits in. Because right now she's just kind of the odd woman out.
Starting point is 00:23:57 Well, to your point, when it's her one-on-one scenes or she gets a solo talking to one of her friends, it's never about the group. It's never what's going on in the group. It's never, oh, I had this moment with so. So Lizzie's the one that brings it up. Her friends like, oh, you have like this grown up group of friends. She's like, oh, yeah. Anyway, Audrey's, she never talks about other ladies in the group.
Starting point is 00:24:18 And that's kind of a big part of this show is discussing things that's going on in the group. Yeah. Really don't get that from her. And honestly, up until this point in the episode, everybody else has done that. I mean, we were we were unpacking stuff from Newport. We had Alicia talk about what's going on with Rula. we had Rosie talking to her husband about what's going on with Kelsey. Even Kelsey, like, yeah, we get an update on her life, but she's still talking to her mom and sister about what happened to Newport.
Starting point is 00:24:42 Then you go over to Ashley and it's like none of that even happened. Now, obviously, there is the caveat that she did have to leave early, so she was more worried about Dawson. So I'll give her a pass obviously for this. Okay. But it does seem like every time, like you said, every time we have that one-on-one scene with her, she's not talking about the rest of the group. So it's not just this instance. It's not like we're just kind of holding in on one scene and trying to like apply that to the rest of her life.
Starting point is 00:25:04 It's not really like that. But it is something to kind of notice where she's not talking about her relationship with the rest of the women. She just kind of glosses over. Like, oh, yeah, it's kind of hard to get in there. But I think I'm doing a pretty good job. Anyway, come film me do this. And it's like, okay, I want to see both. Have more conversations about what's going on, how you're fitting into the group.
Starting point is 00:25:21 Even if you're not fitting into the group, at least talk about it with your friends and talk about how hard it is to break in. And you've got somebody like Liz, who's got that hard exterior. But we watched that scene last week in Newport where you're worried and kind of penetrate it. like talk more about that. Like, all right, I feel like I am getting closer to some of these women. And maybe I'm going to go grab coffee with somebody or I'm going to invite them over to Audrey's or whatever it is. I don't care what it is.
Starting point is 00:25:42 Just do a little bit more of that. And then also show your life. Like, I want to see both. Yeah, I do want to see the influencing stuff. Like, it's interesting. But I need more show-centric shit too, like you said. But let's get to Joe Ellen and her mom. I didn't think we're going to get this as early as we did in the season.
Starting point is 00:26:00 And interesting. scene question mark this was strange i don't like because i don't either because we get into everything and obviously joelan was sent away three times once to rehab and twice to like a school for troubled children or whatever you call them and we're talking like even when the setup because we go to grandma or grandpa's house and obviously he just passed away so we're cleaning out the house and she goes to her room and she's like this is my room member you left me here and took jen and and didn't take me with you for weeks. Mom's like, oh, sorry.
Starting point is 00:26:36 Oops. Like, what are you going to do? Mom is kind of, I know what she's doing. She's uncomfortable and doesn't want to acknowledge what she's done wrong. So she's sidestepping things and trying to make light of it. And Joellen really rips off the Band-Aid because she's like, you think I mean the mom? She's like, well, you weren't nice growing up. She's like, oh, and you were.
Starting point is 00:26:58 And to Joellen's point, like, she wasn't the fucking parent, dude. Yeah. You might have had a kid that was a dick, but it's still your kid. And the mom's excuses, I was overwhelmed. I didn't know what to do. You can't just ditch your kids because you're overwhelmed because she was hooking up with boys and that made you upset. Like, like Joe Ellen says, like, that's what high school kids do. Like she was hanging out with dudes.
Starting point is 00:27:23 Like, who gives a shit? I 100% believe after the scene. It's like Joe Ellen said, because I had boobs and because guys gave me, me attention. That bothered you. Not because mom's like jealous, but she didn't like the attention she was getting from boys and she didn't know how to handle it. And she's like, you're going away to fucking rehab. What? Like, let me say that again. I don't like that you're hanging out with boys. You're not doing drugs. I'm sending you to rehab. Yeah. This scene was particularly hard to sift through the bullshit
Starting point is 00:27:58 because I genuinely believe that her mom was putting on a show for the cameras and she was just trying to skirt around that as much as possible. I don't know if the conversation would have gone a different way had this happened later in the season. Because the way that Joellen was going, it's almost, it seems kind of weird to say it this way, but she had momentum building. She was talking more to, you know, Alicia.
Starting point is 00:28:20 She was probably going to have another conversation with Liz. She was going to have a conversation with whoever else was going to listen. So it seemed like every time that she had that, conversation she got a little bit more off of her chest she got a little bit more confidence to talk to her mom and in this it's a precarious position because it is her mom so of course if her mom says the right things even if she doesn't mean it jo Ellen's going to feel better because she's able to have that conversation all the it on camera jenn was there so she could kind of chime in jenn didn't really do dick in this whole scene to begin with her mom borderline like enabled mom she's like yeah that was that was
Starting point is 00:28:52 tough too so it helps you paint the picture of what jose Joe Ellen was talking about for the last couple of episodes. And now obviously, I, in my mind, it confirms absolutely everything that Joe Ellen's been saying. I think her mom is absolutely full of shit to the point where she's pointing at pictures and she's like, oh, there you are. This is what you were for Halloween. It's like that was Jen, not me. Then I said you to rehab the next day.
Starting point is 00:29:14 Yeah, like it's total bullshit. And again, I don't really fault Joellen for giving her mom, giving her a pass is probably the wrong way to say it. But I think she just felt good in the sense of I'm able to bring all of this to your attention and say all this on camera in front of Jen, see if I can get your reaction. Her mom was saying the right things at the right times just to try to push things away, but she didn't say anything. She didn't really apologize.
Starting point is 00:29:37 She apologized for not really knowing what to do, which is a fucking weird thing for a parent to say. The whole scene was just kind of brutal. And I expected this as soon as her mom popped up and like up, I know what her mom's going to do because she just strikes me as that type of person. Yes, exactly. That's what I got. That's the exact same thing.
Starting point is 00:29:56 because everything she said was so run up the mill surface level, just a quick response to sweeping out of the rug. I promise to give it my own, be a better parent and be there and be a better grandparent. And Jo Ellen just wants to hear that. And she knows that. So she's giving her exactly what she wants on a platter, but I don't feel it.
Starting point is 00:30:16 I wasn't like, oh, great, they squashed it. Mom's going to show up. It's more so like, oh, you're putting on for the camera right now. You're kind of backed into a corner, so you're trying to say the right things. and then you're going to feign tears. I didn't believe those.
Starting point is 00:30:29 I didn't believe that for one second. She starts getting upset. I'm like, all right, stop it. I don't believe Joe Ellen's crying. I don't believe mom was crying. No, I totally agree with you. But now seems like a great time to just stop for a quick little ad break and we'll get back. The war is over and both sides lost.
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Starting point is 00:35:45 On the podcast app, you're listening to right now. To the rest of the Rhode Island action. Well, let's get to Liz and Dolo, and we're going to the gummy lab, which was cool. This was a fun scene to watch. They get so scientific. You think it's just weed. I know. It's like, wow, look at all these big machines and shit.
Starting point is 00:36:02 Honestly, when she said like, yeah, we're going to start a gummy specific for menopause. I'm like, I don't understand how that works. I don't trust this. I think it's probably just, it's a different strain of weed, but it's going to help you relax. It's going to help you feel a little bit better. No, there's a lot of science fact. And I trust every single person in that room, including Dolo and Liz. I agree.
Starting point is 00:36:22 And Dolos got a background because of Polly. And obviously, Liz and her man are like the, the THC Kings and Queens of Rhode Island. They're like the first ones to have a dispensary. But I, one, love how Dolos been sprinkled in. It is not in any way like taking over the show. It's just fun to see her every now and then. And two, this is a fucking great idea. This is so smart that they decided to do this.
Starting point is 00:36:48 And I do believe that they looked at probably has to do with, I don't even know. I don't know. I don't have the science for that. I don't have the brain for that. And I'm not going to try to speak on it. But what I will say is I think this is an awesome. idea and I love these two together. I love how real Liz is.
Starting point is 00:37:06 I love pretty much everything about her. And like I think she's such a fascinating person because she's so layered. And the more that I see her on screen, the more you start to really get that sense that she is a big softy. Like you can tell. And I love that she's so open about her shit though. Because she's talking about menopause. She's like,
Starting point is 00:37:23 I was so mental, went down to 105 pounds. I couldn't get out of better focus. Like you think it's everyone else and not you. Look at my feet. Look like a bag of dicks. Bag of Dix made me fucking laugh out loud. That was unbelievable usage of that term.
Starting point is 00:37:37 I also love the idea of us sitting here trying to figure out the science behind it. And then do you think that would deter more people or do you think it would actually push people to go look it up for themselves and see if it's good for them? Maybe we get a sponsorship with them. Oh, my God. That would be so awesome. I would love to promote that. That would be amazing. What would happen if I took a menopause gummy?
Starting point is 00:37:58 I don't know. I have no idea. Good experiment. We should try it. I truly don't know enough to speak about it. So I'm like, I don't know. But yeah, that was, it was just a fun scene between those two.
Starting point is 00:38:11 And then we get to the most bizarre, awkward, uncomfortable dinner I've ever been a part of. And I feel like I was a part of it because we were forced to watch it. And I loved this, like this, like you said, will live forever in my head. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:26 Whether that's good or bad, I don't really know, but it was wildly entertaining. the first question I have, I don't understand why Brian continues to expose himself to this show. I get what he's doing and what he thinks he's doing. He's like, I'm exonerating myself.
Starting point is 00:38:41 Like, if I, people like me. If I'm on screen enough, people are going to like me. So I'm going to keep putting it out there. I think it's partly that. And also because he's such a big scumbag, he's probably also like putting himself out there for other women. Like, oh, yeah. This is a good dude.
Starting point is 00:38:58 This is a fun guy. And he's clearly cool. and he's along and he's he's with it maybe he's putting himself out there for like the swinger community i don't oh okay yeah well rhode island is a big swinger community we know that they told us that in the show yep but rula continues to double triple quadruple down on being sick and she is outing herself and i this is where again i get to the place of unless she comes on big at the end of this she must have because they bumped her to full time they promote her midseason so clearly something shifts, I still think the Brian thing's going to be too much of a holdup for me to ever really get
Starting point is 00:39:35 invested because it's too much face value shit. Like, she doesn't even realize that she's saying, you know, I was sick, I was sick, I was sick. And then she's talking about it. She's like, there's just too much negative energy in a confession. It's like, okay, well, which one was it? And my point is, because she's trying to spin these webs and circle about how to take the heat off of her and Brian, that's the sole focus of protecting her marriage, which I get from a real
Starting point is 00:40:04 life standpoint. But from a TV show standpoint, we're never going to get authentic ruler. We're never going to get her, no holds barred, just saying what she needs to say, saying what she wants to say, because everything that she says and thinks is, like goes through a screening system to make sure it's not going to fuck with her and Brian. Yeah, I mean, she's clearly screening her own thoughts, but Brian's absolutely not. You've got that, which is a very interesting tandem. I also love that Rula has, I think she's only filmed like two scenes outside of her house. I think the rest of her, I'm pretty sure the rest of her input is the only two that I could think of are the polo grounds.
Starting point is 00:40:41 And when she went to lunch, the second episode or whatever it was, the rest she has again. I know. She won't leave the safety of her own home without that. But like, she starts talking about the negative energy. And I'm like, all right. Talk about the negative energy from Brian. or from the rest of the group or from the woman who's supposedly saying that she's going to show up whenever you guys are filming, which that's what I'm pointing out when I say she's only filming in her house. Apparently, if this woman gets wins that you're filming outside of the house, she's just going to show up.
Starting point is 00:41:13 Like she wants her screen. Why? I would imagine that's probably what it was because that was the rumor when they were at the, they were at the pizzeria, the pizza, the Greek pizza restaurant. Oh, yeah, that place, the Billy has. Yeah. Apparently, that's why they left in such a hurry because she was threatening to show up. So I think that's why she's filming at home so much and not filming out there. I don't think that this woman is to her house.
Starting point is 00:41:35 Honestly, please. Like the producers have to know who this is at this point. Like just go send the mistress wherever the hell they are. I don't care where they are. Send her at the reunion. Andy loves doing that stick where now it's sort of like a boy who cried wolf where he says, oh, we're going to bring her out right now. And then it's nobody do this for real at the reunion.
Starting point is 00:41:54 Have this woman come out and speak her piece because we all need to know what's going on. But the way Brian is talking, I mean, God, you can tell right away, Alicia's not going to bring it up. I mean, you already know. I get it. Honestly. Yeah, I get it too. It's funny, too, because I think our brains have been trained from reality TV that she's
Starting point is 00:42:12 going to bring it up. Like, it's her job. Of course, she's going to bring it up. But in whatever weird world while watching this, I'm like, ah, reality TV just kind of went out the window. Like Alicia just seems like a normal person. I'm like, yeah, she's not bringing this shit up. There's no way.
Starting point is 00:42:25 And the way Brian's talking, I mean, God. He gets up, early gets up and he's like, you mind if I go to the bathroom? Okay, what do you mean? Do I mind if you go to the bathroom? I don't even know if his phone rang or if they added that in there. It doesn't really matter to me. But he comes back in a hurry and he's like, all right.
Starting point is 00:42:41 Now we can have some fun. What is going on? I had a work call. Now we can have some fun. The tone in which he speaks, the volume in which he speaks is so fucking creepy. This guy's such a creep. And I don't like him at all.
Starting point is 00:42:56 I don't want him on screen really. Like, I'm glad we got this scene because it was so bizarre. But this motherfucker is sitting there talking about microdosing, OZempic. And like, oh, you know, I'll do a little bit of HGH. I'll take some testosterone. And I'll do this. I was like, you sound like a train wreck.
Starting point is 00:43:11 And like, you're, what scares me is you have access to all these things. Clearly, you don't vet the people you're selling it to. If this is how willy-nilly you're talking about it on TV, what do you mean? You microdose ozempic, you psycho. Oh, you know, I, I gained a little. wait so that I took some steroids. I did this. What?
Starting point is 00:43:31 Your liver's going to explode. Not that I really care, but like, what the fuck are you talking about? He's adding to this weird reputation that he already has. And then he's speaking in riddles, but not. Like, that's so fucking weird. And he's talking to Brian. Brian or sorry, Billy clearly doesn't like him because he was like, yeah, I eat at a peach place and, you know, I can tell it's not canned sauce because I didn't get
Starting point is 00:43:55 heartburn. Even if I eat it at night, I don't get heartburn. okay, what? Great, dude. That's fantastic. Yeah, I just don't get it. Like, even the way he's talking about his practice. He's like, yeah, I got the pediatrist in the back and I got everything else you need in the front.
Starting point is 00:44:09 I'm like, what are you a drug dealer or doctor? I don't know what the hell is going on anymore. Why are you offering all these things? It doesn't make a ton of sense. Clearly, rule is fine with it. She's like, oh, yeah, he's got Botox there. So anytime that I need a little Botox, like, boom, boom. I'm like, I wouldn't trust that even if he was my husband.
Starting point is 00:44:23 I mean, clearly you don't trust them as your husband. But I wouldn't trust him with Botox. There's no way in hell that I would. The one thing that stood out to me that was very incredibly funny, though, was while he's going through all of this and he's talking about all this, Alicia leans forward in the most serious tone possible. It goes, that's very good information. That's really good information.
Starting point is 00:44:43 She didn't know what to say. Hackling. She had no idea what to say, but Billy just started cackling. He's like, what are you talking about? The fuck are you getting this guy's nuts. What do you mean? This is good information. This is unbelievable.
Starting point is 00:44:54 And I bet they probably did have a pretty good dinner, but that dinner for the scene was pretty much over right away. As soon as Alicia decides, like, I can't do this. There's no way I can do this right now. I don't know what the tone of that dinner would have been. I don't know what that scene would have looked like. And I also don't know how Alicia was going to bring that up organically because she doesn't bring anything up organically.
Starting point is 00:45:15 She would have just blurted it out. But I don't know how that scene goes if she does end up showing the video. Like I thought her opportunity, which would have been hilarious, was when Brian went to the bathroom. And it's like, oh, fuck, are you going to do it right now while he's in the bathroom? And she'll go to it. And then Brian's going to come back to the table. It's like, oh, we got to really discuss this.
Starting point is 00:45:33 I can't believe this. She just didn't do it. She just immediately like swallowed like big swallowed like, nope, nope, not going to do this. No. And instead, we get to hear Brian talk more. And he's like, let me tell you about the first time we met. Have I told you how we met? Let me tell you, man.
Starting point is 00:45:47 Oh, my God. So I was like, hey, you want to drink. And I went and got her a drink. And I was like, make hers a double. And so every time that I would have one trick, she would have two and worked out pretty well. Ew. That's fucking disgusting. It's absolutely.
Starting point is 00:46:03 And he thinks it's like a romantic story. He's like he didn't even go. I thought he was going to go down the road of like, you know, she's so attractive. And I just, I like, there's no way in my brain. Like even going through that when I was just trying to like come up with. There's no way to make that story sounds not very, I'm not going to say. gummy gross fucking,
Starting point is 00:46:24 yeah, there's the initials are like DR, yeah, DR is the word that I was thinking of but yeah,
Starting point is 00:46:31 fuck man, like the more this guy talks, the more he buries himself as a piece of shit. Like, this is what happens. And again,
Starting point is 00:46:38 it just goes to show you, we have no idea why he's even still in the show. Why is he still showing up if this is what he's going to do? I guess he is, he's that scary brand of delusion, but I mean,
Starting point is 00:46:48 watching his world crumble eventually, whenever the hell we might get there, apparently they're still together. It's going to be very fun. It's going to be really satisfying if we get there. They're still together today. Let me remind all of you at home.
Starting point is 00:47:01 He has cheated on her. Probably still is cheating on her. We have video evidence of the cheating, multiple videos of the cheating, text messages, him leaving the table to answer phone calls. He's not talking about. Him leaving the polo grounds to go see this woman.
Starting point is 00:47:17 He planted tracking devices in Rula's car to the point that he was arrested for it and they are still together today. That's the current situation. So I don't that and again, from a show standpoint, it just takes me back. And I think that I put so much emphasis on it because I think Rula could be a fucking star. I think she could be exceptional TV, but I think that she's going to be hindered by her husband. And I think her trying to protect the marriage is going to keep her from really elevating to a place where it's like,
Starting point is 00:47:51 oh, we need her on this show. Because as of right now, we don't. Like she, we need her because other ladies are talking about what's going on with her. But we don't, we have yet to get a payoff scene with rule of words. Like, oh, there we go.
Starting point is 00:48:04 Like it's not happening. I think what we need and again, with her being raised to being a full time cast member, I think we need the back half of the season to be very rule-centric where she's in a lot of scenes. So we can get a better feel for what the hell is actually going on in her marriage. Then next season should be the, the start of the downfall.
Starting point is 00:48:22 Then we'll get a divorce season, and then we'll get single rule of somewhere around season forward. It's going to be fantastic. That's a great timeline. That's how I haven't mapped out in my head. If it goes that direction, that's a phenomenal timeline. I'm down for that timeline.
Starting point is 00:48:35 But we can end the dinner with him talking about how he, and of course, this guy eats medium well steak, like shocker. Because it reminds him of an Achilles tendon. A fillet an Achilles and Achilles tendon. No, it's fucking not. No, it's not even remotely.
Starting point is 00:48:49 What the hell are you talking about? It's the backstrap. It's under the spine. Like, that's why there's no, there's no muscles and shit on it. It's just a piece of meat. It's not a tendon.
Starting point is 00:48:59 And why are you saying this? Why are you comparing meat to fucking body parts, you psycho? Like, he planned the dinner. I know. Like, just have your pasta.
Starting point is 00:49:10 If that's what you're going to do and then offer like a chicken dish or whatever the hell if you're going to do that, you can't plan the dinner just to set up a punchline of, well, every time that I see red meat, like I just have a hard time eating it. because I need to overcook it because I can't see any of the juices coming out because all I think about is operating on an Achilles tendon.
Starting point is 00:49:26 It's like, did you really pick a filet just so you could make that comment at the dinner? I think he did. I do too because everything this guy does, like he seems to think he's killing it. He seems to think that he is skating by right now, doing fine. He's charming in his own mind. Everything he says is weird. It makes me uncomfortable. I don't understand.
Starting point is 00:49:47 Like even when they're talking about him drinking, like she's like, oh, he's on one tonight i'm like this is him on one it's not like it's just he also say like i don't have to drive a lot or something like i don't have to drive because he's drinking straight vodka but he didn't say i don't have to drive he said i don't have to drive a lot later i miss something like what like how does that fucking make any sense that it should be the opposite you shouldn't be drinking because you have to drive later like what how is that something i don't know i don't know and i don't pretend to want to know like i just don't like him he makes me feel icky and i don't want to see him anymore. But we get to Rosie's house, which I always want to see Rosie's house,
Starting point is 00:50:28 because again, I'm just, I need to know more about this place. But she's having Kelsey come over. I love that she puts the plans on the counter. I do believe she had every intention in this scene to try to smooth things over initially. I think that she was going to stand up for herself because Richie had been like, hey, it's time for you to stand your ground a little bit. But I do think it was going to be a positive experience or at least an attempt to. Kelsey, this is where Kelsey like not loses me because it's great for the show, but like, you have no ground to stand on because you roll up to a neighborhood blaring a siren and speaking over the intercom like 8,000 square feet or like 8,000 square inches suspect.
Starting point is 00:51:12 Who on earth would be cool with you after that? Like, why do you think that you and Rosie are in a place where you, can pull up to the house like that and not have her clap back. Like delusion. Delusion. And then she plays victim. She's like, what the fuck? It's like, what do you mean?
Starting point is 00:51:30 I don't know. Like, I love theatrics, especially in a housewife show. If this happened and they were cool and they had a little spat and then this happened, fine, totally fine. As long as you know, you haven't been to this house.
Starting point is 00:51:43 You don't know this name for her. You shit all over. Why do you have a speaker in your range rover? I don't understand how that works either. Yeah, the siren and everything. This was all very premeditated. And I got to know what the motive was. Was it a, oh, we're cool.
Starting point is 00:51:58 We can make jokes about this now. So this is what I'm going to do. I don't think it was. I think it maybe at the base was that. But honestly, the majority of that was just to be shady. The majority of that was to get a rise out of Rosie to try to keep it going. And again, it's not like you're pulling up and it's like Rosie, Ashley, Joe Ellen, and you're doing this for everybody else's pleasure and try to like bust on Rosie.
Starting point is 00:52:19 or whatever it might be. You were doing this in a one-on-one scene where you were coming over to do her hair and her makeup again for retribution so that she could post you and this is how we were going to start it off. It didn't make any sense.
Starting point is 00:52:30 Again, I love the theatrics. I wish that it landed. I wish it was something that could have been funny, but this was just not. And I, weirdly enough, loved the delusion of getting out and being like, what's your problem? What do you mean?
Starting point is 00:52:41 I thought we were cool. Like, I can't do this. No, you can't fucking do that in the neighborhood. You don't know any of these people. There's a town watch that's going to be coming over right now. because there was a siren i think my favorite part though is that rosy in confessionals like we even know siren ordinance i'm like really yeah is that real it's on the h oa form no sirens
Starting point is 00:53:01 ever and now everyone's gonna be pissed because i'm blaring sirens i don't know maybe that an issue with that in the neighborhood previously or maybe kelsey just who knows goes through there a lot with her siren who knows but yeah they get upstairs and she sees the plans and i like this seen a lot because again, we needed Rosie to step up and she did, but watching it build, because I still think that in her head, she was like, all right, like, we can get
Starting point is 00:53:26 through this. And the more she kind of just ruminated on what just happened, the more pissed off she gets. And finally, she's like, you know what? Fuck you. And just goes in, like, finally rips off the Band-Aid and tells her everything that she wants to say. Kelsey, where the fuck is your house?
Starting point is 00:53:42 Where's your career? Everything I have, you don't. And Kelsey, now, was going to be you're being very aggressive you're being yeah you started this when you rolled up with a siren and she's going with after everything you've done to me it's like what has rosy done really to to warrant this kind of response other than have things that you don't like that's all it's giving it's giving i am so jealous of your life and i'm going to paint it like i'm the victor here like i'm both victim and victor i'm winning this whole thing and she's being mean to me it's like no you poke and prod sure rosy seems to rub people the wrong way like that seems to be the vibe that
Starting point is 00:54:21 she gives but at the same time like you have no ground to stand on and then you pull up in a siren you lose the blueprints being out is the funniest part i think by far that is the funniest part because it's not only i was planning on leaving these blueprints out so we were going to talk about this but then you pulled up in the siren it's that so it's like okay here's what you should have done here's the level that you should have come in kelsey it's I've got the plans. You could have had something on your phone and been like, oh, that's so funny.
Starting point is 00:54:49 I've got this over here that shows that it's only 5,000 square feet. Have that out. We probably would have been annoyed by that, to be honest, and it would have been more of the same. But I imagine the way that Rosie was reacting to that. Like with her pulling up and doing that over the loudspeaker, she was probably like, fuck, I got to run inside. I got to get rid of these goddamn blueprints.
Starting point is 00:55:07 I don't want her to think that I was even going to talk about it because now I'm up here like, why the fuck are you still doing this? I thought we were good. But instead it's, Oh, here's the blueprints. Let's take a look at this. It's like, fuck. Now we really have to talk about it.
Starting point is 00:55:19 And like you said, it's just ruminating. Now she's getting remad about the side of it, even though she was probably already coming to terms with it. Like, all right, let's just get through this. I can go talk to Ashley afterwards. I'll call Richie what I'm done. You know what? Fuck it. Let's just go all in.
Starting point is 00:55:32 And I love that in the middle of it. She's just, and this is what we're all thinking in home. What is your problem with Rosie? What is Rosie done to you? Yeah, she made a comment when they were on the beach and you weren't there. And she was talking about how you're polyamorous, which you are. Wait, that was the best part.
Starting point is 00:55:47 She's like, sorry, I called you a polygamist. And Kelsey goes, it's not polygamy. It's polyamory. Yeah. Like, you're just confirmed. Again, that's the only thing that you could possibly say that Rosie's done to you this whole time is talk to other people about your relationship status. And say true things.
Starting point is 00:56:06 It's totally fine that she said that. And you can also be totally fine to have an issue with that because she didn't come to you first. She started talking to other people about it. absolutely fine, but you've lost the plot. You've completely lost me. So Rosie just opening up. I love to see this too because that means that it's in there.
Starting point is 00:56:23 We were wondering if it's even in there if she was just going to bounce ideas off of Ashley, cry, have Ashley cry, whatever might happen. Usually Ashley's going to cry. I talk to Richie about it. But instead it's like, no, confront this face to face. Let it out. Blow your lid. And then I think personally, I think this will show because Kelsey will go and talk to Liz.
Starting point is 00:56:42 Liz will talk to Joe Allen. and this whole thing is going to get through the group very quickly. It'll tell everybody else that you can do this. It'll tell everybody else that, all right, the Rosie we saw up in Newport, who was kind of just hiding behind Ashley while Ashley was crying and then had like a very low level conversation with Kelsey afterwards where Kelsey felt like she came out on top.
Starting point is 00:57:00 No, there is a Rosie in there that might not want to be fucked with. And that's good. That's good for everybody else because now she's not going to get picked on. And if she does, they know that this could happen. And it could actually evolve her into a better housewife, which I want to see. now at the end of all this and I love when things literally push comes to shove when Rosie's getting in Kelsey's face I'm okay with Kelsey just kind of putting her hands out
Starting point is 00:57:24 and like all right back off of me agreed completely totally fine but then it turns into well you're being aggressive don't let your fucking hands on me I'm like oh shit this is boiling over this is actually producers might need to get involved I was waiting they forgot they waited a long time they very I think both of them more so Rosie absolutely forgot that they were on reality TV at that point. I agree. And like I got a little nervous. I was like, ooh, are we going to have fisticuffs right now? Like, it got pretty close. And I agree with you.
Starting point is 00:57:52 Like, if you're going to get in somebody's face, we have this in a lot of other shows. You're like, oh, my God, I can't believe like he pushed him or she pushed her. It's like, at least from where we're from. Like, if you're in someone's face, you get shoved. Like, that's part of it. So I never, ever feel bad for people that get in someone's face and they're get pushed. It's like, yeah, what did you expect? Dumbass? But yeah, I just, I agree. Like, we needed this from Rosie. And it went to a level I didn't think she was capable of.
Starting point is 00:58:21 She's literally saying like, sucking dicks, not a career bitch. I was like, damn. Funny. Funny. Yeah, objectively, very funny. And going out, I don't know why the hell Kelsey went back in there. She just, her biggest qualm with everything was just that Rosie said, you didn't even fucking win your crowd. You didn't win that pageant. She's like, I did win that pageant. okay you know what i don't think she heard me the first time let me go back in the house even though the producer just the producers opened the door back up for her so clearly they wanted more so it's fine but she goes back in just to reiterate by the way i did win that fair and square he didn't pay those judges i want to shut the fuck up and then she calls her a slam pig which is very
Starting point is 00:58:57 funny and i love watching the reactions online we knew what slam pig was when we saw the trailer we've heard that before but it's probably been about 15 years since i've heard that term very funny to bring it back now watching people online try to figure out what slam pig means was very funny to me this week it is a very funny thing i didn't see that i would have enjoyed that see the the pageant double down made me sad because that's clearly like the only thing she's got and for her to question that i think she was like don't don't take that for me like that's it yeah like i did win i did win the page that that's what i'm talking about earlier in the episode where i'm like yeah It's going to be very interesting to watch Kelsey navigate this new part of her life.
Starting point is 00:59:40 But when she does stuff like that, I'm like, oh, boy, you are clinging on to some weird shit from the past that does not matter anymore. And that might actually be very sad to watch. No. And the projection is catching up to real quick. But yeah, let's get some questions. Oh, God. This just ruined my day. Amy Labadea, buckle up, bros.
Starting point is 01:00:01 Rumor has it. OC starts airing in July. My apologies in advance. Why do you do that? What do you mean? Why is it coming back in July? Oh, they're just trying to bury it, which means it's even worse of a season than we won.
Starting point is 01:00:14 Or it's probably even worse than the season that was last year. Is it always in July? I feel like that's early. I feel like that's early. I feel like it's usually fall. We just got done Beverly Hills. Why? Don't do this.
Starting point is 01:00:26 Bring back Miami. Yeah, please. From KWP 5015. Why are these women so good at weekly one-liners, sucking dick is in the career, chef's kiss. They are very good. It seems like every week there's always one or two very good lines. Yeah, agreed.
Starting point is 01:00:44 Roman 5. Kelsey was not ready for Rosie. She was not. She was not. Then she got steam roll. Rosie won that with flying colors. Yeah. Jamie Gibbs.
Starting point is 01:00:55 What's a better insult? Slam pig or Kelsey asking Rosie to spell polygamy? I don't know. Yeah, slam pig is definitely better, but asking her to spell polygamy in the middle of a very heated argument is very funny. I still think the best part is her clarifying that it wasn't polygamy, mid argument.
Starting point is 01:01:13 Like she's, it doesn't matter. That shows you Kelsey's priorities because it doesn't matter. The point is you have multiple partners. That's what she's saying. Yeah. Sonia, Sonia, do you think these two know that they look exactly the same?
Starting point is 01:01:30 There are a lot of people. It's funny because we did that in the beginning of the season. We didn't have an issue. figuring out who is who, but it's still very funny to me that we are what, like nine episodes in and people are still having a hard time figuring out who is cool. Oh, that's mean from Allie Hauser, between the two of you, who's the slam pig? Ew. You.
Starting point is 01:01:50 Me? Yeah, you. That's rude. From Blacksmith Trev. Did Brian admit to doing steroids at dinner with Rula, Liz, and her husband? Yes. Yeah. Yeah, but it was Alicia and her husband.
Starting point is 01:02:05 See, that's what I'm talking about. You guys don't know who's who. Come on, guys. But yes, yes, he did. And microdosing ozempic amongst other things. From its sin, justice for Clemy, the dog. Should Kelsey have approached the house with sirens at all? No, she shouldn't have.
Starting point is 01:02:21 Poor dog. I was going through it. And Brackman, man, this fight is about something other than square footage. What's the deeper issue here? I truly think it's jealousy. It's only giving envy. It's not giving like, oh, we have some secret thing because I think Kelsey would have alluded to that by now in a conversation with Liz or I think that it's just jealousy. And I think that Rosie also, again, seems to rub people the wrong way.
Starting point is 01:02:50 So you put those two together. So maybe she's irritated that Rosie has all these things. Doesn't make sense to her. That pisses her off. I don't know. From Weinstein. page, why do you think that the cast protects Kelsey so much? They do. I don't think that Rosie has a standing friendship with really anybody in the group except for Ashley,
Starting point is 01:03:10 whereas Kelsey has already been kind of ingratiated into Liz's life. Seems like she knows Joe Ellen. So I do think it's just that, but that could just be something that kind of shakes out towards the end of the season. I agree. I don't, it's hard to say, honestly, but I think a big part of it is, like you said, it seems like in Rhode Island. like they're very tight. And if you're not part of the group, then they make it known that you're not part of the group.
Starting point is 01:03:36 That's why we saw Ashley struggle early on. So the other question, though, that always is in the back of my mind, given what we've heard from so many people in this group, it's like, okay, well, we've heard an affair alluded to with Rosie. We've heard about 15 other affairs
Starting point is 01:03:52 that have occurred within this group. Is it something like that? Is there more there? I don't know. Yeah, I don't really know. from K. Katli P. 86. Two tequila shots has Brian spilling about sampling work products.
Starting point is 01:04:08 How many would have him spilling about his girlfriend? Is that why Rula was monitoring his drinks? Probably. Actually, that's a good call. That's a really good call. Yeah, I like that. I like that. Jay Bay the Hut,
Starting point is 01:04:21 713, what snacks would you like on a drive? Alicia needs a spinoff over road trips. I agree. I would love to watch that. I'm a big honey roasted cashew guy. and dried mango or my go-toes. Combos. Oh, having a combo in a minute.
Starting point is 01:04:36 Yeah, pizza combos. I love that this question keeps coming up. I know we answered it last week, but I'll always do it from Chris Don. Who's worse, Muzzy or Joe Ellen's bomb? Joe Ellen's mom. Joe Ellen's mom for sure. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:04:49 Yeah, Muzzy at least had a couple of nice moments with Bronwyn. We have seen nothing from Liz's or Joe Ellen's mom. and sending your kid to rehab when your kid doesn't do drugs or drink is pretty bananas to me. Yeah. We'll do one more in here from, oh, this is just an easy one from Evie Fanton 22. Whose side are you on Kelsey or Rosie? I'm on, I'm on Rosie side right now. Yeah, Rosie.
Starting point is 01:05:16 I don't think Kelsey has a side. She doesn't. She doesn't have a house. She doesn't have a side. She doesn't have a boyfriend. Well, she has, yes, she does. Bill's her boyfriend. Oh, right.
Starting point is 01:05:26 together. Who knows, man. Oof. Well, I don't know, but I do know I love this show. And I can't wait for this this week to air. That's the thing. As soon as it ends, I'm like, ooh, I want more. I want more. But, yeah,
Starting point is 01:05:40 we'll see where the season goes. I have no idea, truly. Like, that's the best part about this show, I think, is that each week I'm not expecting what happens. And that's the best thing you could ask for. Yeah. But that's all I got. You got anything else?
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