Bros & Shows - Sold on SLC Series Premiere Full Recap

Episode Date: December 11, 2024

What's up Bros? We have a new show on Bravo and it is Sold on SLC. In this show, we dive into the real estate world of Salt Lake City via Presidio. Run by Jennifer Yeo, its a firm dealing with big houses, fancy properties and they have a team to match it. In this first episode, we do some intros to get to know everyone. It seems like Matt will take a center stage this season as last years top salesmen, and this year having zero net sales, he is struggling to be the sole provider for his family. Lisa Barlow makes an appearance with Sarah, an agent at Presidio, whose husband owns a competing real estate firm. Tyna, another presidio agent, has some beef with Matt, because apparently Matt was spreading rumors that she doesn't believe in god. While we appreciate some drama in our shows (obviously) we felt like this first episode was rushed. We need to get to know people more before we start diving into the drama because we currently don't have any investment in this cast yet. We meet Malaysia, who had previously worked for Presidio and now has found her way back. Tyna's back story is very interesting as well, as a former LDS church member, she speaks about how being one of, if not the only, black, lesbian woman in a community full of LDS members. Jennifer comes in hot as the centerpiece for this show and we appreciate what she is trying to do, it just feels like a lot of episode 1 was forced. We hope they hit their stride and it becomes a little more organic, but we also are aware of early season blues as a show gets up and running. How are we feeling about this new addition to the Bravo line up? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Good afternoon, everybody, and welcome back to another episode of Brav Bros, a.k.a. Bros. and shows. I am your co-host, St.a. Russell, joined as always by the one and only crossed the pond Magoutz what's up dude you're not

not quite crossed the pond the goots yet but we'll be there oh vagusian that's what I'll call you when you get over there because we're going to have to do

one remote at least when you're there so vagusian or uh yeah no I'll work on it I got time while you're in the air

I'll think about it you got time to figure it out but uh bros and shows in full swing although this is on Bravo so I guess we're still brab bros but we're going to be

Covering a little sold on Salt Lake City today seems to be a bit of a crossover. We got some Lisa Barlow action in there. And, yeah, first thoughts. What do you think? I don't like it. Now, when you say you don't like it, are you referring to me being the one that ask you that question? Or do you not like the show?

No, look, it's the first step. I always tread lightly with first episodes. There are some things that we'll talk about when we get into it that were, blaringly apparent to me that I think is going to be something that should work itself out as they get more comfortable. I give grace to these shows. I understand it takes some time to get comfortable and figure out who plays what role, who's going to be the standout. You'll get a lot of people early on vying for that spot, which is what we got out of this episode. That's a lot of people that have not been in front of the camera and you can tell. So I will give grace as we work

through the speed bumps, if you will. I think there's something here. I think that any time you deal with a reality show centered around real estate, it tends to give it a buffer because the houses are cool. And when you're in a place like Salt Lake City, where the real estate and just the, that architecture in general, like you're going to get big sprawling estates. You're going to get really cool backyards, awesome scenery, big windows. You're going to get cool houses.

So it's going to give them a little bit more. more leeway as far as performance goes right that being said that will run its course pretty quickly so they have a chance i see what they're doing i don't hate it i didn't love it but i will i'll reserve judgment to really drop i'll give them three episodes before i pass judgment on whether or not i think this is going to stay or if they need to rethink the whole thing what about you i think that's fair. See, I've never really got into the, like, the real estate shows that are on. I haven't either. A million dollar listing. Whatever the fuck Maricio's was called. They got canceled after one season.

Agency. Agency. That's a little call it. It wasn't called that, but I'll just call it agency. Yeah, we'll just call it that. So I don't really don't think. And I, I'm just going to be honest here. I'm probably going to end up offending realtors that listen to our podcast because. sorry guys. It's just, it's inevitable. And I'm going to get ahead of it now and apologize. I'm not being mean to you personally. The career aspect of being a realtor is at some point I'm going to offend people. Let's just be very honest. These people are on this show look like idiots. And it looks like the type of person that had no idea what they wanted to do for their career. And they just kind of ass backwards fell into this. And now they think that they're better than us. That's what I get. from this. And I don't like it. I don't care for it. You get two types of realtors. There's the ones that I do believe make a career out of it. It's a very lucrative career, right? Because of the commissions you get, especially if you're dealing with real estate over a million dollars in Utah. You can make a ton of money with this shit. And they're also in an interesting

market because of the Mormon church. There's a lot of money in Salt Lake City. I don't have any issue with realtors. I like people that want to do their own thing. You know that. That I've built my whole life on that. So I get it. I understand what you're saying. And that speaks to like, you know, I follow people that I've known forever on Instagram.

And all of a sudden one day they wake up as a realtor. And now they drop all these videos, right? You know, everyone's seen the real estate videos. I would appreciate it if they had their own spin on it. Right. Like if somebody came to me with a new take on real estate videos, I'd be stoked,

but they're all the same. I don't know. I don't know. Like Brooks. Brooks is doing this thing. where he's showing his listings, but he also highlights the food in the area. So it's like a foodie plus that's a different spin. And he showed me one of his cuts.

And it was really, I was like, oh, wow, because I watched the whole thing. I was interested in the food. And then I was like, oh, cool. And it shows the neighborhood. It shows the restaurants. It shows the house. I was like, that's a new take. I like that.

When I see somebody I know and I know that they live in, you know, a modest home, they have a modest family, a modest income. And the video is then pulling up in a rangeover, they all of rangeovers. to this beautiful listing and they get out in like a swanky suit and all this stuff and they make it seem like there's somebody they're not that's when I have a problem and that's something I see in this show where I'm like okay and I think that's kind of what you're pointing to a little more brash you are but that's who you are and I appreciate that I think that's what the kind of the vibe you're getting where it's like I am better than

everybody because I small houses more times than not and I'll just take it another level because why not the people that you're referring to that you know i've known for a long time and then all of a sudden they're realtors they're typically idiots that i know couldn't pass like algebra one that you know that's fair were dickheads in high school or dickheads in grade school or whatever it may have been and now all of a sudden they're realtors and they're like yeah you got to come check it out and i'm like i wouldn't trust you with fucking anything i'd have a pet goldfish and i'd be worried about its health and i would not trust you with it so yeah i'm probably not going to come to you for real estate.

But either way, that's just my general vibe for that. And I hope it doesn't cross over. But in this first episode, they all strike me like those types of people that, let's be honest, staging a fucking house and getting things together does not seem like the hardest thing in the world. And somehow they're making it hard, leaving a litter box out in the open. I know. It should be 101.

Hey, this is gross. Let's get rid of pee and poop. And smell fucking cat poop and piss everywhere. should make sense to me no i'm going to leave it out i didn't know where to put it because the cats still need to do their business the cats are in the basement go put it down there you dumb ass so there shouldn't be cast in the house at a showing either that didn't make any sense to me there put them away go take them with the person who's selling the house yeah so yeah none of this really makes a whole lot of sense to me but maybe i'll work through it maybe i'll get to a point where i understand the type of

person they are and i can learn to enjoy it right now i'm like uh i don't know i don't like i think you're going to have to, it's like the Southern Charm idea where you got to accept some of them where they are. Like, this is going to be the vibe. And they're all vying to be that top dog, as we saw. It's going to be that vibe the whole time. And just to put a period on the realtor conversation, we're not speaking to any of you that have made a successful career of real estate. That's why I prefer that way. Yeah, we're talking about a very specific type of realtor. And career realtors that are listening to us, you probably know exactly who we're talking about. Yeah, I think that's the thing. They can, they can,

understands that we're not talking about them because they're very good at their job they made a whole career out of it. We're talking about the idiots that probably fell for some sort of MLM scheme and they're yelling knives on the doorstep. Yeah, and then they're like, oh, what am I going to do next? Like Matt, Matt sold freeze-dried

fruits and now he works in real estate. Exactly, yeah. It's honestly it's the type of people that go on Instagram and post a story saying my next chapter, like they're Kevin Durant going to the fucking Warriors. No, you're in, you're in, in massive crippling debt and you don't know what to do because you don't really have a lot of

life skills. So you're going to go ahead and do this. Those are the people talking about. You didn't pay attention in school and now you're scrambling. Yeah, that's what we're talking about. But yeah, let's, let's move on to the episode. How about that? Yeah, let's jump in because here's the thing. When it comes to premieres, especially new shows, they don't tend to take a long time to review. It's a lot of intros, getting to know people, trying to feel out the vibe for this show. And we start out with Jennifer Yeo, who is the owner of Presidio. That's the real estate group, and it's obviously in Salt Lake City.

She comes in, this is my first issue. There needs to be a level of authenticity out of the gate for me to fall for the show. I need to buy that when I'm not watching you, this is how you carry yourself. It feels very produced. It feels very set up. She feels like she's trying to do the most. with her scenes and trying to find the iconic lines, they will come naturally. They take time.

You have to build your brand first. We're not going to buy into the shit you're saying if we don't know who you are. She comes in really hot. And I didn't love that. I get you got to announce your presence with authority, new show, got to stand out. Great. Great. I didn't believe her.

I didn't believe it. I believe that she runs a successful firm. I believe that she makes a ton of money. I believe all of that. Her attitude, I'm like, it's not flowing when you talk. And I picked up on it really, really quickly, and especially when we get to the team meeting and she's got to talk and everybody.

And my first question is, how often do we actually do this? Is this an actual sit down that we have frequently? Do you think? Yeah. On the show or in real life? Realistically, I think it's really. All right.

I'll be your office correspondent for things. Oh, that's good because I don't have office experience because I think offices are the devil. Yeah, I look, I think they'll go broke before I work in an office. Yeah, I think informally, look, I'm pretty sure the majority of them probably don't go to the office ever. They're just doing listings and calling it. That's what I'm saying, yeah. All of them in there, yeah, it's probably a weekly thing.

And then there's a bunch of informal meetings, which I'm sure we're going to see at some point. But yeah, I think it's a real thing. Okay, fine. But her firm Presidio is like the Barbie brokerage is like the nickname for it because it's a lot of women, which I think is cool. I think that in a male run state, you know, we have. our opinions about the Mormon church. We have our opinions about just the culture of it all, like the religion aside, we don't love the patriarchy that seems to run every single little thing in Utah. So I like the fact that she is a female business owner. I like the fact that

she tries to highlight her female brokers. I think that's all awesome. I like that when we start to meet the women in the brokerage, it's a lot of strong personalities. You get Tina, who's the unicorn as she calls herself. And I can't imagine there's a whole lot of Tina's in Utah. She is a black lesbian single mom. Formerly of the LDS church, formerly married to a man in the LDS church, has since moved on from men. Good for you.

She is now with a partner. BJ, I think we find out later, is her name. So love that. I liked her. Again, you're going to have to just, for everybody watching or planning on watching, just understand that we're going to, get people hot out of the gate they're trying to make a name for themselves immediately so it's a lot of forced stuff it's a lot of forced one-liners a lot of blowing out your chest trying to stand out

so that's why i reserve judgment we meet malaysia and she's coming back to the firm she has been gone for a year or so she's only been in real estate for two years so she is working your way up but people are threatened by the fact they're questioning her motives this is when i started to get like, okay, we're clearly trying to fabricate some drama amongst the firm, and that becomes more apparent later. That's where I'm going to have a problem is if you have to manufacture everything that's going to happen here, it's too easy to pick up on. Oh, hi, buddy.

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Welcome to Night Vale is available wherever you get your podcasts. Yeah, I fully agree too. And from what I understand of the real estate world, it is not that weird or really like any sort of broken. It's not that weird to just jump from company to company to company. Typically, you're not going to be there for years on end. And if you're going somewhere else, especially in a place like Salt Lake City, there's probably like two, maybe three big firms. So it's not that weird that somebody wasn't getting what they were getting.

Maybe they weren't getting the listing that they wanted. Maybe they couldn't find a place for themselves. So they went to a different company. Yeah, like they went to a different company. It's not the fucking end of the world and it's not that big of the deal. I think they're going to try to push that down our. throats and I'm not going to be here for it just because yeah maybe to the layperson who doesn't understand anything they're going to be like oh my god that's crazy they're poaching clients

it's like now that shit happens all the time and like you work on commission alone so it's not like they're like if they're not earning for you anyway like she does say like two or three of her top earners went that you would have a problem with but 14 brokers amongst a firm because the natural progression from what I gather in real estate is you start at like a Keller Williams or something that's like a national brand just to get your feet wet, learn the robes, then you kind of move on to maybe more of a boutique firm with the goal probably being your standalone company at the end of this to where you're making all of your money. I would imagine that's the natural progression. So I would think that this is a step up from like a national brand of realty.

Again, I'm just going to keep using Keller Williams because it's all I can think of up the top of my head. Coldwell banker works too. Caldwell banker. Right. So like those types of firms. So I would imagine this is a step up from that, a little bit more lucrative, a little more boutique you get the the bigger listings the off the market kind of stuff like that so again to your point you know they recruit however many brokers as they can probably that seem like they might be a good fit because you're taking a gamble you're saying all right well it's it's a win win for me if you don't earn for me i'm not paying you anything anyway it's not like you have a stipend to where i'm paying you x amount of money you have to sell a house for me to pay you so when she's

bitching and moaning about 14 of her brokers getting poached, it's like, yeah, but the, the net income of that 14 might have been a hundred grand. Like, we don't know what they're making. So it doesn't land. And I think that it's supposed to, it's supposed to invoke that there's a war between real. I guess their name. Yeah, they, they say at the end, I fucking forgot already. It's real.

It's real versus Presidio. But we don't know enough. If you show us the books, maybe. I need tangible things here because just poaching brokers isn't going to get me riled up about Presidio. Well, and I think what they're doing is when they show somebody like Tina and they show Matthew, how much money they've been like earning or rather how many houses they've sold in their gross profit, whatever it might be. That's what they're trying to do.

And the reality, I like that. I like listing like, okay, 150 total sales. Sure, yeah, like $115 million over the last year. that's great. And I think the reality of this industry is more what Matthew's going through where he was the salesman of the year last year. And in the Q1, he didn't make any sales. He's got a flat zero and he's freaking out because he has to provide for his family. And like, that is the reality of commission-based working. That's what's going to happen. So if they can dig into that a little bit and show the ebbs and flows of that, that could be cool. That could be interesting to show

Matthew going from making X amount of dollars in his commission last year to zero in Q1. for this year and how it affects his family how his wife's money has to actually do that how he financially plans and how they have to work through this those are things that are interesting because that's a storyline and that's real that's actually real life implications are things that we look for on these shows so if they can delve deeper into that instead of just manufactured drama between the two because i'm already pegging it for what it is sarah's husband is the CEO of real so yeah there's going to be some drama in there i imagine that a couple of his brokers are probably going to pop up because it's not called presidio it's called sold on salt lake city so i'm

sure the other brokerage is going to be involved in some way shape or form and we're going to i would imagine them too so i think that that's what they're going to try to make the overarching storyline is this rivalry between the two firms just don't make it so apparent you know what i mean don't like don't try to jam it all over the i i'm having a really hard time jam it all over the place I'm having a really hard time with terminology right now. It's been a long week. What are we going to do? This is what our fucking six or seventh show of the week.

It's the seventh show of the week. Yeah, it's been a lot. But no, I then to your point with Matt, like what I did get from that was a little bit more authentic of a performance. I did believe what he was saying. I don't think that he is, you know, potentially cut out for this line of work given what we've seen from him thus far, the way that he set up that house.

And the other part of that, like that was a broker's open which means that it needed to be like a step above and he left like personal care items out like there's fucking like face cream I know that the two things that they are going to judge me on in this is

the way that the house looks and the charcutor and the charcutory so you leave the cat litter box out yeah dude and you're leaving face creams out well it needs to look lived in it's like no it doesn't I don't want to walk through a house or looked that good to be honest no it was it was whatever I looked like you to pick it up

at the local grocery store, but like, from Aldi. It seemed to be pretty, don't, don't you bash all the, Aldi's the shit. I'm not bashing Aldi. I'm just saying that you and I would get a charcutory board from Aldi. I'm not going to get one for a broker's open. No, absolutely not. He seems to be trying to figure out his way through this. What he has, according to the people on the show, I haven't seen it yet, but they keep telling

me he has charisma. I haven't seen it, but that's what everyone's forcing down my throat or jamming all over the place, as you say. But we get to meet Sarah, who's not at the meeting. Sarah is married to Chris, who is the owner or operator of real estate. Real estate. Real real estate. That's what we're calling it.

Real realtors.com. Yeah, real realtors.com. That is Chris, and that's Chris's wife. She wanted to be her own woman, not rely on him. So she moved over to Presidio, which is cool. I like that. I like that set up. That's what it's being set up as.

And that's my whole thing, because the way that, even the way they frame this scene, they're in the meeting. Like, well, where's Sarah? Dun, done. It cut over. She's doing a showing. Yeah, like, she's doing a showing for a $3.5 million house. Wouldn't you rather be earning for you than sitting in a room? And that's what these people are doing.

They're all just like, I've got this great listing and they hype each other up. It's like, until you have a buyer, none of this shit matters, guys. She has a potential buyer and Lisa Barlow. We get a little LB. She comes in. She. arguably steals the show just by being herself.

She's asking for all of these, as they're looking through the house, like the minute we pulled up, I'm like, that's not good enough. She's not going to like this place. They look, the ceilings are way too low.

And then she starts listing off everything she needs in this house. And they're like necessities. And it's a salon, a spray tan room, a red light sauna, a red light treatment room, a mail room.

Like, boop, boop, boop, like so specific that that just tells me at no point, was she planning on buying anything you were planning on building the whole time my one lisa barlow is my must must talk about i know this is not ross lick we're about to do that after this it fucking cracks me up when she's like oh i went to london and i spent so much at prada that they invited me to wimbledon do you know how much cheaper it would be to just buy a ticket to wimbledon

like i'm not but you know what you get to sit in the prada box at wimbledon that's probably really sick so who cares like it's just such a funny it's just such a funny it's It's just a great Lisa Barlowism. And, you know, she's going to build, which again, Sarah, who you're claiming is poaching brokers from your firm has just landed a build, which is going to make you way more money than a sell, like selling a $3.5 million home. Now she gets to sell the lot. She gets to do all of that stuff. So it's like, whatever. It's just going to get hard if they don't figure out how to do this stuff organically.

Right. And we're clearly seeing that they're trying. to pit real against Presidio and I don't care yet and it was too soon to force this narrative before we get to know the people involved but Tina and Matt is another one that this irritated me as well because you know the conversation seems fake it doesn't seem real Tina's pissed off because apparently Matt told some of her clients that she doesn't believe in God which yeah in Utah in Salt Lake City that's going to be a pretty damning thing to say because the majority of your clients are going to be of the Mormon church or of some kind of faith.

It's a religious state. We get that. It's going to damage business. But again, I have no investment in these characters. So if you want me to get involved in their fight, I need to have somebody I'm rooting for. As of right now, I don't really care for either of these characters. I don't know anything about them. You're telling me that she sat down with her best friend.

I'm like, I don't know who your best friend is. I'm supposed to believe her. Yeah, no, that's a really good point, too. And I think that instead of being worried about real poaching your bro. maybe be worried about Matt poaching clients from Tina by telling her, telling her friends that she doesn't believe in God. Or just ruining sales in general. Yeah, like that's going to turn everybody off of the entire firm. They're just going to go over to reel. They're going to go somewhere else. Who cares? That's not really what's going to happen. And I don't even know

if Matt did this because who, like, we have nothing here. We don't know who these people are. We don't know what their tendencies are. Maybe three or four episodes from now, we'd be like, oh, shit, I could see Matt doing that. Now I'm like, he looks too. timid. He looks worried about his income. Maybe he is doing it. Maybe he's not. I don't really know what to think. You can't throw this in our face in episode one. It's not going to like sit with us and be like, whoa, that's a really good icebreaker for this. It should be intros. It should be intros. It should not. We should not dive into drama until the final scene when we have now, like, we've watched 40 minutes of this whole crew and keep it concise. We don't need to be

introduced to everybody immediately either. Keep it to three or four people, then bring more in next episode and then at the end I guess if we do get more intros after that fine but like keep it concise where I'm getting to know what they do what kind of listings they're showing what's their background which they did some of that but they started to introduce the drama too early so now by the end of the episode again it should have been intro intro intro we got two minutes left they're about to roll the credits on screen and then something happens where you're like oh oh interesting like they're not getting along why don't they like each other that would have

been a better setup because now why are Tina and Matt fighting you know exactly yeah why are Tina and Matt fighting and it it looked from a reality TV standpoint Tina is way more prepared than Matt is Tina is already ready for the role yeah yeah and I don't like it to be fair I didn't know it didn't come off it came off manufactured as shit yeah it came off manufactured and it looked like Matt had no idea this was even going to happen and he got up and walked away and they're like oh there he goes Matt's always going to get up and walk away and like does he is he always going to know that I don't know that we just met Matt like two minutes go i have no idea what he's going to do and it looked like tina was just trying to establish yourself

as a no bullshit go-getter you're not going to get this over on me type of person it's like okay that's kind of cool i get that but matt just getting up and walking away like there's no drama like what you wanted from this scene is for the two of them to butt heads and then jen comes in and breaks it up and then you get to talk about how the company is more important than anything individually that you guys are going to do whatever if you want to do that that's fine but not getting up and walking away you don't really get the delivery you don't get anything to come from it and it's just like okay like what are we doing here i don't know that's the thing it's like i don't know what to think because i don't know who these people are and i definitely don't know Tina's best friend yeah i'm like

we pride ourselves here especially to not just believe everything we're hearing right take all of the information yeah and like you're not giving us enough info to formulate an opinion we're supposed to take Tina on her word meanwhile matt looks terrified he doesn't know what's going on and he just keeps saying like that's the most trivial thing I've ever heard which to me points to I think you said it and I think now you're like fuck that was stupid because nothing good's going to come of this and it was trivial I shouldn't have said that but again I'm not invested yet so I don't really know but whatever we'll just keep trying to frame it as the intro episode you get to see jens listing they have 18 washing machines because the Mormon family so they have 18 kids so that makes sense uh you get Matt and Nicole and that's his wife they met this is like they could have done this for every character right take me to their house introduce me to their partner their kids where they came from what their background is that would have been a much better start i think but you get to meet matt and Nicole post mission is when they met they dated for two months he lived beneath her in an apartment then they ended up getting married they got engaged at the olive

garden absolutely no shade here i hope he put that ring at the bottom of some manless bread sticks would you ever hit the ring nice well yeah you got to replace the the basket Yeah, but every time I've been in Olive Garden, if there's like one or two left, they come right back out. I know. I told Dev, we need to go there. I haven't been to Olive Garden in years. That might be what I do when I get back. It's one of those.

I'm going to be craving that. You're going to Europe and you're going to get Italian food at Olive Garden when you get home. Okay. Yeah, they're going to get chilies or Applebee's or something for sure. Something American. Something American. Jillies. I think, honestly,

olive garden or still on that is it's one of those places that you need it once every couple years and but when you have it it just hits so hard and then you remember like oh i feel awful that's why i don't eat this for four days yeah toxic sludge in my body but in the moment like that petichine alfredo with a breadstick dipped into it oh fuck me up but uh that's where we start to find out more that's why these scenes are better for a first episode or two because you get to hear salesman of the year last year, zero net income for quarter one. They have to rely on Nicole's income a little bit during this whole process to make sure the family's taken care of.

He's upset that he's not the sole provider, which, you know, we believe here that everyone should, exactly, it's the Mormon thing. It's a cultural thing. I don't want to speak on it too much. He's grateful for her effort with everything, but he feels lesser than because he's not the sole provider, whatever. That's their family dynamic. I'm not going to talk about it.

but what it does is paints you the picture of okay so this is what matt's goal is this is what we're going to watch him try to do is make a name for himself in real estate because he wants to be able to provide a life for his family that he is proud of boom i have his directive now now i can understand why and where he's moving i don't have that for other people really and that was an important first step for him i hope that they are able to do that with more people as we go and it's simple it's just by bringing you into their house and being like this is where they come from. I'm like, okay, cool. I know him now. Now I can start to potentially get invested. But what did you think of Matt? Like, all said and done now that we've had his intro,

like, what's your take on Matt? Matt is exactly who I was thinking of in the beginning of the episode when we started talking about typical real estate brokers, real estate agents. He just kind of fell ass backwards into this. He was probably looked at, oh, you're a good looking guy. There's somebody that he went to school with or somebody. Are you sick of selling freeze dried fruit? this is way more lucrative and you're tall and handsome and you've got charisma which we still haven't seen haven't seen yet nope and you would be great in this field okay i'll do it what do i need uh a high school diploma big time i'm in let's find your real estate license yeah yeah then who knows how long that took him to get but yeah that that's who i was thinking of i that's all i can

see really i'm happy that we got a little bit of his family because it looks like he is you know in the Mormon way of family man and he wants to perform for his family and that's great i like to see that that's way more that we got out of anybody else in this show i you know i'd like to get more from jennifer she's supposedly going to be the head honcho of the show she's a ceo let's see her doing things let's see what her family's like let's see what everything's going on a little bit at the end but it's just it's still so forced not it's it's completely forced and yeah i don't know we i feel like we got more backstory out of matt than anybody else and maybe they're going to do it this way we're next episode we're going to get more out of

Tina maybe the third episode we get more out of Jennifer I don't know how they're going to go about it because now it's like four episodes in I'm like I still don't know everybody I think they're worried about the show coming on right after Salt Lake they're not going to be free boost yeah you're going to get that free boost for sure but still let's start it off with a little bit of drama let's get it involved let's have Lisa Barlow in there in the first seven minutes let's go ahead and do this I think that's kind of what they were going for instead of what we would prefer, which is, here's this person, here's their backstory, another person, here's their backstory, and then start everything up towards the end, which is sort of the equation that we look for.

That's the equation that we're used to. It's not us just like coming off with something on the top of my head. It shows that we tend to get involved with. Look at the valley. That's our professional opinion. Thanks, thanks, Ryan Bailey. We've used that every episode since Ryan Bailey told us we have professional. But, I mean, you look at the Valley, right? They did a good job of that the people who didn't know they brought us in and we got to know them first and then we understood dynamics as they started to get into drama we're trying to pick up dynamics with no background and that's really difficult to do because we're just going to jump to assumptions but a great example is you get janetina and tina's house it's like all right we're at tina's

house we get to learn about bj her partner and a little bit more about her dating and being married to a man in the LDS church and leaving the church and all of that. Okay, great. But we immediately go from there to the shady agents conversation of, well, I heard Sarah's doing this. And even Jen's reactions, I'm like,

how many takes did that take? Right. Like, it's just not playing real between the two of you. And that bugs the shit out of me. And she brings up the Matt stuff. And that would have been the time, right?

If she brings this up now, we've gotten to see Matt with his family. This is our second time. You know that he's not making any money. We know he's not making money. So maybe he's a little bit jealous or something like that. Maybe he's a little bit pissed off. I don't know.

But now if she goes, did you hear what Matt's doing? Now I'm going, oh, fuck, what's Matt up to? I thought he was just a family man. And now he's starting shit. But you already presented it.

So now to me, it feels you're trying to force it down my throat of the shady agents or jam it all over. Jam it all over. And I don't want you to jam it all over because I don't care yet. I don't care. but if you dropped it now, now I'm questioning Matt, who I just got to like a little bit

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He's giving him a discount on commish. That does not mean you should fuck your brother-in-law by not putting stairs in the back, leaving out a litter box, leaving out all your stuff. Like, do your brother-in-law solid. All I got from this is that Trey doesn't like Matt. Yeah, I didn't think you liked Matt either. I think he likes his brother-in-law at all. Like, I think he hates him.

Yeah, I didn't think he liked them at all. And this is when we get the line of, there's two very important things for a broker showing it's the charcutory board and it's making sure the house looks good you didn't do either of those things there's dirt on the carpet there's bathroom stuff out there's a goddamn litter box there's no you have a stack of rocks that people are walking on that's just like wobbling back and forth that's not a good call by the way there's bricks just like make a little step they can have and vacuum dude was that the front door or the back door or the side door it looked like a glass door to the backyard yeah why you have

people go in through there anyway oh they were going in i thought they were walking people walking in with stuff in their hands walking in that way i don't know what the hell was going on it looked like a complete shit just stack the bricks get it ready and this is also one it's your livelihood so figure it out two why are you doing this on tv you know this is going to be on tv why why not like get somebody to come over get like a fucking a carpenter to come over and just make some wooden steps for people to walk in on and say yeah we've got to get those refinished that's part of it just stack them their bricks just put them on top of each other you don't have to make it look that great just make it stable so you don't catch a lawsuit because

someone trips at your brother-in-law's house or they're allergic to cats and now they have a fucking reaction yeah if i walk into a house when dev and i were looking for a home if i walked into a house and saw a litter box i would leave i would be like nope don't want it no you wouldn't i would you guys were looking for a house so fucking hard and it was so hard for you guys to find a house you think a litter box is going to ward you away me yeah i'm i'm petty like that because that would irritate the shit out of me and then i would think the rest of the house isn't clean or they didn't care enough to put their shit away yeah you guys ended up with a great house but you guys try to find a house stressful for me well because it wasn't that it's because every time

we bid all these assholes from new york it was like right before everything got really nuts and it was like in the middle of the pandemic and that's when everybody from new york city who were cash poor or cash rich came to philly and bought all of the real estate and now they went back to new york when everything opened back up but they drove the prices up and to you would put an overpriced offer on a house and get blown out of the water people were overbidding by like a hundred grand it was a fucking nightmare yeah you were there for that whole thing it was awful but yeah a litter box and especially if it was like that like it was an unkempt litter box it wasn't Linky walked in and it was just like, oh, they have a cat.

I'm not anti-cat to that degree where I'm like, oh, a cat lived here, no. But if I walk in there, there's shit in a litter box. I'm like, ew, I'm not, I don't like this. That bucks me up. Gross. But whatever. We get to meet Jen and Darren and Metamatch.com. We get a little bit more background on them.

I did appreciate that. I think it could have came earlier in the episode again so I can start to get invested in Jen. But we get enough background that I'm now like, okay, this is your body. She doesn't want kids. She wants to build her business. Okay, I respect that. She was married to a man previously in the LDS church. She shunned by her family.

We've heard this story a million times from people that leave the church. Now I'm starting to buy in. I'm like, okay, cool. So this whole thing is you rebelling against the church. It's you proving something to your family, to yourself, and to your man. Great. I'm on board. But I needed this earlier to buy into the other stuff because now you've wasted an entire episode where I don't care.

that much. And I'm hoping that episode two will build off of this. Right. But it's not, and I know we keep repeating ourselves, but it's not a crazy formula. Let us get to know people first. That's all. It's all we need. That's really all we need. And I thought this was too little and too late. We didn't get a whole lot on Jen who's supposed to be the star of the show. It's just a little bit of a nugget. Like this is what her life was. This is what's going on. It didn't really show us how she built her, let's call it an empire. Let's see where she started. She started. She started off here. Show us some pictures.

She said she started out broke. Okay, cool. Great. How did you get from there? And then you became a real estate agent. Then you fell in love with real estate. Okay, great. Where did you start? Did you start working for a real? Did you start working for a different company? Were you in Salt Lake? There's so many things that we need to know.

And I feel like they didn't do anything. And they're focusing on the relationships, which is fine, I guess. It's just now that I'm looking back, obviously this happens every time that we're recapping. They started off. They should have just gone right from that meeting to, this is Jen. Let's learn all about Jen.

Let's learn all about Sarah. Let's learn all about Tina. Instead, they just started off with, where the hell is Sarah? Oh, and then the end of the episode is doing her goddamn job. Sarah's with her husband, who is the CEO of a rival company. Oh, boy, they're poaching clients. Oh, no. That's fucking great.

Yeah, they wanted to make that the whole thing. And I don't agree with that. They tried to jump the gun. I don't know why. I don't know what pressure they had to get out. of the gate so fast to where they're trying to force drama and that's the thing.

I would have been okay also if it didn't feel the way that it felt. Like as I'm watching Chris and Sarah and Jen sit down to have this conversation at the end, even the phone call to Darren on the way there where she's like, he's like, I don't like that they made you

come to them. I'm like, why wouldn't she? I don't understand. Like, why is they going to call her because her brokers are coming to their firm unless they actually are poaching. And if they are poaching, that's even less of a reason for them to come up. They don't owe Jen anything. She wants an explanation. So in my head, I'm like, that makes sense. If she wants to talk about it, go to them. Right. So you're trying to get us invested in, I already forgot the fucking Presidio. At this juncture, we might be more

real people. I don't know. But you have to let us build. Right now I'm team real. Right now I am indifferent. I don't give a shit about either of them. I don't care because we watch this scene where going back and forth and Chris and Sarah, it's like people leave real estate companies. It's sad. Sure, you lost somebody, but this shit happens all the time. You know this business goes. No, I'm not poaching your clients. And this is also a scathing indictment on Sarah.

That's my bigger thing here is like, let's say this all plays out. It turns out that they're not poaching anybody. You're questioning the independence, which is something that Sarah claimed that she wanted. You're questioning her motives. You're questioning her loyalty. you like if i'm sarah i'm getting way more bent out of shape about this because you went to jet and said i my whole goal is to stand alone and be my own woman i don't want to have to rely on my husband and his money great that's awesome but now you're saying it's all a ruse for chris so now

you're saying that all of this i want to be my own woman is bullshit she's actually doing more for the men because she wants to prove to chris that she can be lucrative and steal brokers like I don't think that they put enough emphasis on how damning this is on the character of Sarah. And Sarah doesn't seem to care that much. And that's where I'm like, this isn't real. Yeah. Because there should be a bigger reaction. And the conversation that you're now having at the end of this episode seems pretty cut and dry.

And Jen keeps trying to force it. Well, it just seems shady to me. It seems shady to me. I'm like, none of us care though. So can we just get to know people first? Get to know me first. Before you keep jamming things all around. Yeah.

The whole thing just seemed one staged. It's just something that it seems like Jen. trying to push Chris didn't really even seem like that interested didn't seem to give a shit no it's almost like he was looking back at us like this is just how the business works yeah like you weren't selling a long time you weren't getting any good listings they talked to a friend who's at my company and they can get better listings here so they popped over and I'm sure in a year you're going to get a couple of those people back probably whatever cool great why are you involving my wife in this yeah yeah do you want to drink are you Mormon or do you want to drink

Why are you questioning my wife's moral compass who works for you? Yeah. She's working for you because it would be weird if she was working for me. I don't know. I don't know. What do you want for me? Look, it wasn't the best first episode of a show. I'm curious what they're going to do.

I'm curious if we have any questions. Oh, yeah. Do we? Let's see. I'm curious with the overall reception. I didn't look at any socials about this. No. I wanted to do it 100% based on like my reaction.

Oh, we got a couple of questions here. Okay. We'll do two of them, I think. From Dan J. Falconer, early predictions on why Matt is sobbing in the teaser. I think he can't make ends meet and he's freaking out. Yeah, I think it's a conversation where his wife is like, we're good. Like, I got you. And he's like, I'm so sorry.

I can't provide for the family. Probably that. Yeah. Or it's another cheating scandal. Oh, yeah. Let's get one of those. that'll get the people going that will get the people you want people like this show just force a cheating scandal yeah that's the only question we got so i mean we'll see

we'll see if it picks up this is just kind of like uh we like to throw these out there every once in a while yeah it's sort of like a placeholder for now it works out well because i'm going on a trip and we are putting content out to see if other people are watching if you guys aren't watching we're not we won't watch it either yeah we're not invested in this shit yeah we just wanted to see there's Bravo coming out. I mean, obviously Southern Charm starts this week. So we'll have that in there.

We've got a couple of housewife shows going on still. And Southern Hospitality comes out like the first week of January too. So, you know, there's enough content for us to get our teeth into. But I just want to throw this out there. See if you guys are watching. You guys watching?

I'm going to do one thing real quick before we sign off. Go ahead. I'm going to look up. Just going to look it up on Twitter and see if I can get the, the general consensus from people you would think we would do this before we actually recorded this episode but no we like to revisit all right so some people say I'm sold on sold on SLC it's fantastic not too trashy someone says it looks just like selling sunset all right so it seems to have a decent reception

Look, those of you that listen to us know that we are also overly critical, especially early on. So we'll see. We'll see. And if you guys watch it and you like it, we will continue. If you guys turn into not liking it, then we'll shift to somewhere else. But like I said in the beginning of the episode, I will reserve actual judgment until like episode three. Out of the gate, it was fine. It's not my favorite.

I think they could have done a much better job. But we'll wait and see. And then we'll give our verdict. on the intro of episode even before we start episode three we'll give our verdict and go from there and you guys just let us know

if we're getting listeners on this shit we will continue to watch but you got anything else nope we got to do Roslick now so you can get packed and ready to go over to London

yeah go say hard to PK and say hello Paul I want to be a singer can you be my manager do you believe in Santa Claus he's out of your first London.

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