Bros & Shows - Special Interview: Noah Samton (SVP of Current Production - Summer House, In The City, etc.)

Episode Date: June 10, 2026

What's up bros? We have a very fun and spontaneous interview for you guys today with Noah Samton. Noah is the SVP of Current Production for Bravo and he has been with Summer House since its inception in various ways but he also works closely in production for In The City, RHORI, RHOSLC and much more. This was a fun conversation talking about all of the different layers that go into this season and fallout of the Summer House drama as well as how many other things work behind the scenes of our favorite shows. We hope you enjoy it! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Well, in light of all of the craziness going on with Summerhouse, we thought that we would have a very special episode and have somebody on to maybe shed some light behind the scenes and give you guys a little peek into how the magic happens. Shoot, you ready for this? Yes, it's going to be a bit of a different episode. But if you've been listening to us for a long time, you know that we typically do talk about what happens behind the scenes. We talk about what goes into shows like this.

So we thought we'd bring on an expert. And we'll see after our. little break here if he wants to say that he's an expert or not. As there's a drive in a deep left field by Castellanos. Oh man, it's 8 o'clock. And so that'll make it a... I don't need the spotlight. I shine just fine.

Hi, I'm Karma. And yes, I am a bitch. Brov Bros. Good afternoon, everybody. And welcome back to another episode of Brav Bros. Your favorite podcast from The Bros. For everybody, for whoever wants to listen. I am your co-host, Steele Russell, joined as always by the one and only Shooter Magouter,

and we have a very, very special guest today. Everybody, welcome Noah Sampton to the show. Noah is a producer on Summerhouse and some other shows that you love, and we're going to talk all about that. Noah, how are you today? I am doing good. A little correction. I'm not technically a producer on the show.

I'm a network executive. Network executive. my entire list SVP across streaming and unscripted. And yeah, I'm across a lot of yours and your fans' favorite shows. Yeah, yeah, we found out that you do a lot with summer house as well as in the city. So a lot of that New York centric stuff, a lot of the stuff that's at the top of everybody's list. And like I said, in the cold intro, we do typically talk about what goes into the show is pretty much from like casting standpoints to production to editing into which. into which storylines people are going to figure are going to be the best,

what's going to hit the most for the fans. And the other part of it is you are a big Knicks fan. So we thought this was a good time. You've got to be hiding in your office right now. I'm sure New York is nuts. Yeah, I didn't get a lot of sleep last night. So, yeah, you guys are not catching my best moment. Well, between the Knicks and the insanity going on in the summer house

and in the city premiering, you probably are stretched for time. But also an exciting time. I mean, Summer House, obviously, we're going to get into that shortly. But with all the news breaking, I'm sure you guys have been running in circles, trying to keep up with all of it. And then you have the Premier of the City coming out, which has done exceptionally well. It's been such a nice addition to everything going on in Summer House. But I guess my biggest question for you starting out is just, what's it like for you right now,

having this new show coming out, also dealing with all of the Summer House. drama going on? How are you keeping up with it? And what's it been like in your shoes? Well, you guys are only scratching the tip of the iceberg. That's not really the, that's not that saying, is it? But I also have, I'm also across Love Island and Real Housewives of Rhode Island. So I'm stretched very thin, but it's been an incredibly exciting time. You know, Summer House has been my baby for the entirety of the, you know, for all 10 seasons. I actually my, the last, so before I came to the network, I worked on the production company side and I oversaw the first season of Summer House from the production company side. So I've been working

with the show for, for many years. And to see it hit its peak at this moment, you know, it doesn't happen very often, right? Ten seasons in it, and you're getting your highest ratings ever. And by the way, I just want to make it clear we were getting our highest ratings before the scandal broke. So, you know, the show has just really hit its stride. And that's awesome to see. so many talented people put so much hard work into it but then you know to go on within the city you know that's that's great also like i i've known kyle like i said kyle and amanda and and lindsay for over 10 years and to you know kind of feels like maybe there's a shelf life on summer house so so to have somewhere for people to go after summer house it's something we

really wanted and it's really exciting that it's working Yeah, we've talked about doing some sort of spin-off show with Summer House for years. I think we started covering it right around season six, season seven, maybe. And we had watched it a few years prior, of course. But we had said that before. Like when we get those little scenes of In the City, obviously, it's a good coin for the name of the show. But when we get those scenes going back to New York City, getting away from the Hamptons, getting away from just the themed parties pretty much every weekend.

We loved it. We absolutely loved it. And we wanted a lot more. but going back to obviously your relationship with all the people on this show like you said you've been there for all 10 seasons you've been there for you know friends with them for a little bit longer probably when a scandal like this breaks when a cheating scandal if you want to call it that even though there wasn't necessarily any cheating when a scandal like this breaks and you have those relationships already built and you know everybody involved obviously it's a little bittersweet but what do you guys do i i mean i love the way that you kind of address it by talking about how exciting it is because the ratings are so high. But how does it also feel from your standpoint? Because you're looking at it from both ends. You're looking at it like,

we've got great ratings. We've got great streaming numbers with people checking in, especially for the reunion going to the uncensored version, the next morning. There's so much that goes into it. But at the same time, you have to remember, like, these are people that you know. These are people that you have relationships with.

So what is that like when that news first breaks? How are those feelings kind of rolling around in your brain? I mean, initially, you know, you kind of react like everybody else because I did not see this coming. I mean, I heard people talking about, oh, West and Amanda. And I was like, that is not true. That's definitely not happening. You know, and then when it was confirmed, I was as stunned as anybody else's.

You know, I'd already had conversations, you know, extensive conversations of both Kyle and Amanda prior to this scandal about them handling their very public divorce, you know. and you know how Kyle especially was worried about about his perceptive, you know, how the world would perceive him after, you know, some of his bad behavior that he's had, that he had over this last season of Summerhouse.

I know that was eating him up. I know they were really aligned with trying to take it on and, you know, have, not have an adversarial relationship in the press and to try to support each other through it. And then this bomb drops. And it's just like, wow. And I feel terrible for everybody involved.

I mean, you know, Sierra was so devastated by this. It knocked her down so hard. And I just feel awful that she had to go through it. And it is. It's a weird thing where you're like, okay, wow, look at the ratings. That's so great. And look, you know, I helped get, I put Sierra on Love Island. And, you know, she's, she's now, you know, her public sort of profile has exploded because of this.

And that's, it's great that that's happening. And she deserves that regardless of this, but that it came from this is really like kind of, you know, it's not great. It's a really tough thing for all of them to have to go through. And then, you know, the shockwaves hit everybody else on the cast, right? I mean, Jesse's all knocked down over it. you know, Carl's beat up from it. Like everybody is having a really tough time of us. This was like a really tight group of friends who loved each other.

And that friend group just got completely rocked. And that's something that we've talked about in our recaps as well. And something that seems to be kind of missed by both West and Amanda is the trickle-down effect that has occurred because of this whole. They're so focused on the Sierra and Kyle of it all. but it's you've backstabbed everybody in this house you know kj who has a tough time getting close to people found a brotherhood in this house only to have one of his best friends look him in the face and lie to him so i think that's also been such an interesting layer to this whole thing that seems to be overlooked by those two which is really frustrating to watch especially in the reunions

and i would like to get deeper into summer house and we definitely are but you also mentioned some other shows and you know the success of leviahis is unmatched. Like we've seen, especially since Ariana joined us the host, which was an awesome move, we've seen that kind of erupt. But Rhode Island, what an incredibly pleasant surprise. That show is just perfect in every way. Like we're watching this season.

We're waiting because especially when new shows start, we're like, all right, we're going to hit a bit of a plateau. There's going to be a clunker. There has not been. This show is exceptional. So I would love to know what, you know, the inception of that show. how you guys went about casting that show and what that experience has been like and what it feels like to have an absolute winner on your hands I mean that's that show has been a joy and it's been so much fun to work on

the show the inception of the show it was really through one of my co-workers Pamela Jimenez was the sort of champion of that show she worked with a casting director named Chelsea Stevens they found that cast and they pushed really really hard for it to be a housewife and you know it's not you easy to get a new house when I was pushed through. When Pamela showed me the casting for the show, I was blown away. It immediately, so I also oversee Real Houseways of Salt Lake City and it took me right back to season one

of Real Housewives of Salt Lake City. When I saw the original casting for Salt Lake City, and I've been to Utah many times in my life, I didn't know Salt Lake City was like that. I didn't know these people, I didn't know that world. Neither did we. asked and I was like, whoa, you know, who knew this existed, right?

You have your image of what it is, and then you have these people who live there, and it just kind of blows your mind. It's like, you know, it was just a whole new world opening up to me. And same thing with Rhode Island. I've been to Newport. I've been in Rhode Island before. I thought, you know, the boats and you go, you know, whatever, you get your clam chowder and it's a beautiful place. And then you see this other world in Rhode Island that I didn't know existed that was just fascinating. I didn't know these people. they were totally unfamiliar to me. And so interesting.

And it was immediately like, oh, yes, this is a show. We have to move forward to the show. And then since then it's just been amazing. Do you get the same vibe that we get? You're up in New York. When Rhode Island premiered, I think it took about five minutes for Steele and I

to start hearing those Jersey accents. We're like, what the hell is this? This sounds like New Jersey. But for us, it feels comforting because we're so close to Jersey and we know all of those people. and we know that people that have accents like that. So when Rhode Island started, we didn't know what to expect from any of their behaviors,

but we hear that accent, and it sort of takes us back to a very comforting place. Were you thinking the same thing before you went into that? To me, it's like a little, it's got a little Jersey. It's got a little Long Island. It's got a little bit of Boston. Like, it's got all of that kind of mixed in. But yeah, it felt like, okay, I have an idea of who these people are,

but I don't know this specific kind of. Like, it's still unique. You know, there are touches of other places, but it's like nowhere else. Yeah, definitely. Now, just changing speeds back to Summer House real quick because we're watching things play out in the city. So we're getting a little bit more of a timeline. And obviously, like you said, you were shocked when you heard the news and you were kind of in disbelief, sort of negging the rumors a little bit until you obviously get confirmation.

But one of the things that popped up, which kind of crosses into your territory, which is bizarre. This is the first time that we've seen this. And we've had discussions about it before. When Amanda's talking on the reunion and she's talking about how they needed to put out some sort of statement for her and Kyle, but she had to go talk to Bravo to figure all these things out. When we see statements, we always have the same question. We're like, I know you're a public figure. I know you're on a TV show and people are interested in your lives.

But the statements always seem a little overblown. It's like you don't have to do that. We can kind of just hear through the grapevine. But when Amanda says, I had to go talk to people at Bravo. to go do this, that sort of blew things up in a different perspective for us. So what's your take on that? And how often does something like that happen when somebody has like a life change? Do they come to you guys all the time?

Like, hey, I had a baby. I need to put something out. Are you guys cool with this? Is that really how it works? Well, it's not always about putting things out. It's about, you know, we tell their stories, right? And they want to keep us updated on what's going on in their lives. And that is really how it is supposed to work, right?

Like things happen in your life. if you have to share with something. The whole job that, right, being on one of our shows, your job is to live your life and everything that happens in it openly for the cameras and for the viewers to see. That's like the number one part of the, like you don't, you know,

you don't sneak around and hide things and you don't do things behind your producers back because you are hired to live in front of the camera. So it's like the number one, you know, responsibility that you have as a reality show star. And, you know, we, We have the best interest of all of our cast at heart. You know, all of my shows, these are long-term relationships that we're in.

You know, we don't want to bring somebody on Summer House and go one season and gone. You know, there's a very big investment that we make in a cast member and we want them to be successful. It's better for us. It's better for them. And the audience doesn't want to meet new people. You know, there's a show like Well Island, it's a little different obviously, but like with all the Bravo shows, you're investing in a long-term relationship with a cast member.

You know, I oversee Real House in New Jersey. You saw Teresa give birth to her daughters, and now they're off to college. You know, you see this whole, you know, you spend all these major life events with these people. So it's part of what we do is they share their lives with us. And they talk to us about things. And they talk to us whether it's about how to tell their story on the show or what their concerns are for filming. You know, I talk cast members about they have kids and how, you know, they're worried about putting their kids on reality TV and the impact event.

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that what she's comfortable what she's not comfortable with so this is something we do across all our shows all the time sort of the statement that goes out that's a little bit more the PR side I am kind of the you know on the current production side the making of the shows but but I I think, you know, she, Amanda Cod, we're looking to PR for little guidance and then just kind of looping in those of us who make the shows on this situation that she was going for. I think my question with that. And it's also, you know, it's interesting to hear that perspective of, you know, we, we understand

it's reality TV and we understand that, you know, some things are slightly exaggerated on camera. But at the end of the day, these are real people with real lives. So hearing the managing of the real world implications and all that goes into that to make sure that your cast is protected, that you're doing the right things to make sure they feel comfortable. I myself am in recovery. I'm seven and a half years sober. So the things with Mary and her son were gut-wrenching to watch, I mean for anybody, but for me it hit kind of close to home. But hearing that, it's such an interesting perspective on reality TV because of the real life aspect. And that is why we watch these shows.

And I will say the shows that you're involved with, all of them are my favorites. And they all have authenticity, which is what sets great reality TV from, you know, average reality TV. So my question for you, as far as the Amanda stuff goes, we touched on it a little bit. You know, you had relationships with these people for a very long time. So when this news breaks, you said before that this is the highest rated season of Summer Allison ever, not just because of this. It was a great season as a whole. Like we had to remind our audience, especially going into the reunions, like, hey, we know that this is very polarizing what's going on. But there's a whole other show that we love this season of that we want to dive into.

But my question for you, as far as the Kyle Amanda West stuff, when you're navigating this from a production standpoint, also having relationships with these people, how do you navigate that space? Like, what comes first, I guess? Is it the show? is it them or just learning how to find that middle ground of taking care of your show, but also taking care of your cast? So there's like a core group. There's another executive that works for me on the show, Josh Brown, and then there's a couple of the top people at the production company.

And really between the four of us, Lauren Escoe and Jamie Jackmell at the truly original, which is the production company that makes the show. between the four of us, we kind of, we have lots and lots of conversations. And we push for what's best for the show. And then somebody will say, wait a minute, you know, hold on, that. Think about it from this point of view. It's a lot, you know, it's, and we, we have missteps all the time, right? It's not, it's not like, oh, here's the path you take.

We try to figure it out. We try to be respectful. But we also have to be fair to our audience. and these people are making a lot of money on our shows and we're a successful company because of what we're able to give to the viewer. That's why Bravo has such a strong brand. So it's a constant tightrope that we walk.

And I don't know that there's like a real answer to that question, except that we do our best to figure it out. We're all human beings. We all bring our own life experience into it. I was divorced. So when Amanda and Kyle, you know, we're going through it, I came very much from my perspective as somebody who's been divorced, you know, years ago and then moved on my life and, you know, wanting them to have the best possible future out of that. Like, I come at it. Like, you know, you guys, you can both be really happy separate from each other. Like it's not a tragedy that you're getting divorced. You're ending something that wasn't working and moving out to better parts of your lives. You know, so we all kind of. try to look at it that way and be human beings about it. And yet we are also TV producers,

and we know that there's a lot about this that's really interesting for the viewer. But I also think the viewer appreciates kind of treating material with respect. You know, if you burn the house down, that's fun for an episode or two, and then the show is done. You know, I think you want to be respectful of what the cast has brought and the openness that the cast has brought to the process and how hard all these producers have worked over years. And so you walk that tightrope and try to get it so that everybody's happy.

Yeah, yeah. Honestly, it's actually really refreshing to hear that there is a human element. There's a humanization factor that goes into it. It's not just about the numbers and what they think is going to play. And I feel like a lot of people do that, but the sky is falling all the time. Now, the general question, obviously, is where, Where do we go from here? And obviously you guys have, I'm sure been having a ton of different discussions.

You know, we're all enjoying the reunion. We're trying to follow that. But we are getting pretty close to the beginning of what is a standard summer house season. And we all do know that that summer house was sold. So I know you probably can't tell us, you know, who's going to be on the cast? You can't tell us where exactly you'll be. But what has that been like trying to navigate not only the cast, but also trying to figure out where the summer house is going to take place, when it's going to take place, all of those things. while we're all just enjoying the show.

Well, I mean, so we will be having another season. We will be in the Hamptons. We do have another house. And we look for a house almost every year. And it's, you know, it's budget issues. And then there's, you know, you want to be careful about where you have a house because you don't want neighbors right next door who are going to get driven crazy by filming all summer. So it's like, you know, it's hard to find.

find the right spot but we did this season and we have a new house we're excited for that we have been in crit so i can't reveal exactly what's happening with the cast but they're it's a really exciting step that we're taking this summer with the show i think people are going to love some of the moves that are being made um you know i think we learned a big lesson a year ago we're very concerned when page left the show she was such a great cast member on summer house and you know uh oh page is going viewers love her what's going to happen you know the show goes on and other people step up and new people come in and and i've seen this in my career again and again again it's this an ensemble cast on a bravo show there's no one person you absolutely need you love having those people on the show

they're great for the show but if they're if it doesn't work for them anymore we just move on and we bring in new people and uh and yeah there's some really exciting new people for next season Does the door work at the new one? Does the door work at the new house? You know, I haven't actually examined the door myself, but maybe if it does, we'll rust it off a little bit. Yeah, that's all you got to do. You know, dent the door at least a little bit. And, you know, that's an interesting point is, you know, the casting.

And that is part of reality TV, is making adjustments pivoting when you have to if somebody doesn't pan out or something crazy happens. but we've kind of had a nuclear bomb go off in the summer house as far as the West and Amanda thing goes. And that goes back to what we were talking about earlier is all the fractures that this has created amongst the group. So what does a summer house look like? How do we as a producer, how do you move forward with this show, knowing that we are all going to be thinking about the West Amanda Sierra situation? Are they all invited back to the house? Do we pivot away from that? I'm sure you guys are having tons of meetings about this to figure out the right direction for the show.

But coming off of the heels of such a great season, and that's why we were so frustrated when this all went down. It's because we have possibly the most cohesive cast we've ever had in the summer house. It was fantastic TV regardless of what happened. So now that you're moving forward with this, you're coming off of that great season, but the cast is entirely fractured because of two people. what are you guys going to do to kind of launch us into the next future of summer house? Well, I think what makes summer house unique, right, is they are a real group of friends and they

really do share a house together and a half. So if you have two housewives who can't stand each other, well, they can shoot a couple scenes and at the end of the scene, they go home to their own house. In the summer house, if people are not actually able to get along with each other, they can't really be in the house together. You know, it's not fair to those people to put them in the house together. It's not, it takes us away from the authenticity of the show, which is real friends, you know, getting a house together in the Hamptons.

So we can't do that. So we have to, we have to figure out, you know, who can actually be together in the house. And I'm sorry, I totally lost my train of thought. No, you're fine. Can you just summarize your question against? I had more thoughts on it, but then. Yeah, no, it's just trying to figure out with the. Oh, you're fine. No problem. Just figuring out with the fractures in the group, where are we headed? How do we launch Summer House into its next generation, the next installment?

Yeah, no, I remember. So I think, you know, with any show, especially if you have sort of, if you have changes or big changes, and I'm dealing with this with Real House is in New Jersey right now, right? You want to bring back something that the viewers love about the show. You want to make sure there's a familiarity there, that there's. that the show that they fell in love with, they're not going to look at it, go like, whoa, what's this, what's going on here? You know, you want to show, here's your show you love. It's got some changes, but what you love about is still there. And that's, you know, casting, that bringing back people

that they care about, that they still want to follow their stories. And then finding new people who sort of balance that, you know, you don't want to, like when Paige left, we weren't like, oh, who's our page replacement? You know, no, we were like, but we did say, well, Paige and Sierra were really tight. So let's look for somebody that's close with Sierra. And that's where Mia came from.

Great casting, by the way. Yeah, and that came, you know, she is not somebody who you would, you know, that's on paper. That's not like, oh, there's the person to cast. That really came from a genuine friendship with two people who care about each other. And we thought that was important for Sierra to have somebody in the house who we knew had her back and was her good friend. So, and again, that's not. that's not something that translates to every situation, right? Every situation is different, but that's kind of the way that we look at it.

Okay, this person is gone. What does the house need? What is the ensemble need to keep moving forward? Yeah, totally. And I'm not throwing anybody under the bus, but did you and your team kind of look at Scandavall in that season that we got after from VPR as sort of a cautionary tale where the audience was really not happy with that last season. And it seemed like the group was too fractured to move forward,

but they forced filming a little bit, forced some storylines in there. And it really didn't work out. It was a bad product. And I think everybody can kind of agree with that. And again, not throwing anybody under the bus. But did you guys look at that?

And obviously, it's not the same situation. It's not copy and paste. But as far as the severity level, it's about the same thing. And that's the same type of situation that you could have going into this season. Were you looking at that at the same way? Like, we don't want to go that route and force anything to create a bad product at some line.

So Banderpump is not my show, but I have been a fan of the show since its first season. So I've watched every episode of the show. I think it's a great show. It was a very different situation, though, because, you know, there were a lot of fractures in that group already, I think. Very true. And the summer house kids really have a week, like, they hang out when we're not filming. They're friends year-round, which is not true of every show. And so, yeah, I had a conversation with my counterpart who oversees Vanderpump,

and she talked to me a lot about, you know, how they handle the scandal with Scandal, and some of the things that work and some of the things that caused them, some concerns, and that was really helpful. But basically, it was really two very different situations and very different shows, even though on the service, it seems like their commonalities. I really think it would. And, you know, I think with that one, you still had Tom and Ariana living in the house together. So, I mean, there were real challenges for shooting that one for them and for how to go forward with those two.

It seems like you're kind of firing on all cylinders right now. So keep it up. But we appreciate you taking the time. This has been awesome, very insightful. And we're looking forward to all the shows that you're putting out there. Just fantastic. Thank you, guys. I really appreciate you having me on.

Yep. Anytime. Thanks, Noah. All right, take care. There are vampires out there. They walk among you, shoulder to shoulder in the dark. Heading to work, heading home, going to the bar. It's a life just like anyone else's.

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