Bros & Shows - Stephanie Snaps while Larsa and Lisa Try to Make Up (RHOM Full Recap)

Episode Date: August 22, 2025

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I feel like you could have put flamenco in there somewhere. Flamenco McGenco. That works. I think that works. Look, we got a lot of people reaching out because I don't even think we were, like, mean about the flamenco dancing, singing guy last week. But there were a couple people in our DMs. I don't think we got any bad reviews because of it. But, again, I don't think we were that mean.

We were just questioning if it was good. That's all I was doing. I thought we were doing. And then I may have slipped in there, which I'll ever sinned. I may have slipped in that I would have laughed like Larsa did. But I don't think I really would have. And I don't know why these people have me thinking more about this. I don't like to deep think.

But here I am, deep thinking about flamenco singing. I didn't see these. Yeah, I don't think I would have laughed. I probably would have not, obviously I wouldn't have understood what was going on. So it would have been like that little like what the hell is going on around me, you know? How many people got mad about it? Like three or four, at least. I didn't think we were that mean about it.

They didn't get mad about it. There was one person who listens to us and follows us on Instagram, which if you don't follow us on Instagram. What are you doing? Come on. Help us out. It's a follow. Look at that plug. But, yeah, somebody reached out, and I think she teaches flamenco dancing, so she understands the whole lore in history associated with it and said that it was actually really good.

And it was disrespectful for people to laugh. Okay. So, yeah. Well, there you go. The background, I guess. I don't know. I didn't think we were that mean about it. No, we actually, we were pretty tame, honestly.

I think we just asked the question. Yeah, we're just asking questions over here. But as this show gets towards the midseason, it's getting better and better. We got away from the storyline that we didn't want to go too far into, and that was attacking Gertie. So I'm glad we're past that. Now we have a lot of new shit going on. I mean, obviously, Larson is going to continue to do whatever she. she can to make herself relevant.

But this is heating up nicely. Yeah, this episode was, and I was holding out for this take on Larsa, I thought she may have gone in a different direction, but I think you're 100% right, and you were right last week when you said it. This is just her trying to remain relevant. 100%. I thought she was bringing things up, and then she had a bigger plan to put to action. I don't get the sense at all that she has anything planned out.

I think she just felt in, like, I guess in the moment or while they were filming, hey, I'm taking a pretty big back seat right now. We've got everything going on with Gertie and Julia. We've got Alexi and Stephanie who just showed up on the show. And then Lisa's being Lisa, so she's getting a lot of airtime. Maybe I'm not getting that much airtime. Let me step it up. How do I step it up by bringing up stuff that happens like two months ago?

Exactly. And then, you know, reigniting the flame under Jody's ass, which we'll talk about Jody later. That's a really bad look by him. But Larsa is just trying to remain relevant. Well, we get proof, honestly, because Lisa is trying to apologize. apologize at the end, and that all falls apart. But before it falls apart, she unfollows and apologizes.

And Larson's like, we're so past that. I'm like, what, are we? We just spent the entire afternoon yesterday going back and forth talking about her unfollowing Jody, or unfollowing Marcus, rather. And I think it's confirmation again that if Lisa had turned and said, you know what, Larsa, I don't feel like dealing with you, yes, I'll unfollow him. She wouldn't have let it go. No, that's what that would have just opened up another door where then she's

mad because she had to tell her that she was doing it. So it kind of puts Lisa in a zero-sum situation where, look, she should have unfollowed him anyway. Yeah, definitely. Obviously, we all agreed on that. She should have unfollowed him when Larsa was talking about it. But it opens up that door of Larson's not going to let this go regardless. So Lisa was right in saying, I don't want her to tell me what to do because it just gives Larsa what she wants, and then she's still not going to leave it alone. Exactly. And this episode is proof positive of that. But let's dive in to this episode, because we We start out where we left off, and that's with the text from Jody.

Now, Lisa goes to a confessional to try to say, like, he's not saying anything bad. Right. It doesn't matter. Like, it's just, Jody's doing too much here. Like, Lisa can handle herself. And I, it's a double-edged sword. And someone said it in the episode, like, damned if you do, damned if you don't. Right.

Because he's trying to stick up for Lisa. No, he's not saying anything overly problematic. but when you are texting paragraphs to somebody that your girl is feuding with, that's a really shitty look. It's a bad look. It's a bad look because you're being filmed while doing it. You know the type of person that Larsa is. She's going to put a huge spotlight on this.

And you've already fallen into the trap. I don't even really think it was that well-placed of a trap. I don't even think Larsa really intended to play that trap. And yet here we are, just by her beefing with Lisa. Lisa goes and tells Jody Then Jody sticks up for his girlfriend If it was anybody else on the show It would still be a pretty bad look

But it wouldn't be ammo You know what I mean It would just be like why the fuck Like you tell your boyfriend to stop texting me Block him move on Instead Larson is like wow thanks that was easy There's a layup that I can Keep referring to all season long

And I just love watching her Spin her narrative That's completely different than everyone else's Because she's like Lisa's like we're trying to drop it She's like, well, I've never said anything rude, like ever. They play a clip of her saying something rude not 24 hours ago. Yeah, not even that.

And then we can go back to multiple other instances just this season, probably just from the last week. Yeah, but that's what she does so well. Like she lives in her own world. I do believe that Larsa believes herself. I think she convinces herself that she's right, which is it's a great trait for a housewife. But Lisa was going.

through some legal shit yesterday. I guess she had longer than an hour to get that taken care of, but still it was actually a time. It was an hour and seven minutes, yeah. Yeah. Now, where her story loses steam for me is Joey's explaining what to do. All right, let's get this squared away first because you only have

an hour and three minutes to do it. Remember that online notary we used? He's like, yeah. Why was that not your first go-to? Oh, shit, I need to get this notarized. Oh, I remember I used an online notary once. We got a glimpse of this in Milan

when they were having that really awkward car ride with Larsa and her son talking about an email that she sent out before Jody was able to proofread it and it was just completely befuddled with a bunch of... That's when she called Jody a psycho. Exactly, yeah.

And we even said it back then. I'm like, I don't know. I don't think Lisa... Sometimes, yeah, she plays up emotions but I don't think she ever plays up storylines. I think it's just like she genuinely forgot about this. Yeah, I think she falls into things

and she's like, oops. Oh, shit. I just saw a text message from somebody that I've been ignoring for two days, and now I have to go run and do this. Thankfully, you've got a great friend of Gertie, who's able to put all the other shit aside. She knows that Jody's texting Larsa. She's able to just completely push that to the side for now and go help Lisa. So let's get through this, put out one fire. Then we'll come back and we'll talk about what Jody's texting Larsa.

Yep. And I love Gertie in this moment. I always love Gertie. She's always the best. Level-headed, understands that she's dealing with idiots. Voice of Reason. I love her confessionals, whatever she is dealing with an idiot on the cast. She's always calm, cool, and collected in person.

And she's like, what the fuck is this? Like, what's going on? It goes to the confessional. And you just have this, without saying it, you know exactly what she's saying. I'm surrounded by morons. Yep. And I'm going to help. Yeah, it's a bless your heart.

For sure. Bless your heart, I'll help you out. The interesting thing about this dinner, and it's somewhat foreshadowing, what you're seeing, because this is not that big of a deal, right? It's getting compounded because Stephanie's pointing out. every day, why are you guys still taking this? You're still taking this. On top of that, you're giving Larsa ammo.

So people are slightly irritated with Lisa. You got Stephanie that won't let it go. And then you got Larsa with some ammo. So they're just building this up. And now people are getting more and more aggravated. You're watching the non-Lisa fans start to really take Larsa's side. It really shows itself later. But it's just interesting.

This all comes from the Marcus thing. Yeah, it all comes to the Marcus thing. but I still don't really understand, like, who gives a shit if she's going to show up late to a trip? You guys didn't miss your flight because she was late. You didn't miss the private jet. The private jet wasn't pushed off schedule because she was late. It's her own doing. It's her own fault, and she had to deal with it.

So, like, I don't get that part of it. I do understand what Stephanie's saying because she is still going back to sitting in the sprinter van. Like the times in which they're all pushed back and they're all really late and they're all just sitting there waiting for Lisa. I get it. You're annoyed by that. And if you're somebody like Stephanie, who's new to the group, You understand, and she's probably heard things from Larsa. Let's not forget that her and Larsa are besties.

So there are going to be some things that we'll cross over. But she understands that Lisa does this all the time. So she is looking, and I get this, at the rest of the cast. Like, why the fuck do you guys put up with this? Because you don't even bother. You just do because we've seen them in the past try to call her out on it, and nothing ever changes. Her behavior when it comes to being late,

showing up and striking a vogue, as you so eloquently put it, those are the things that she's always going to do. That's Lisa, and that's partly why she's so great. for the show. Now, you can talk about all that. We can throw stones, we can get mad, talk about Jody, but you better not fucking mention Todd.

Adriana, you better not make a good point and say, what if this was Todd, trying to get people to understand what Lease is going through, because if you do that, they're going to yell at you. What an unbelievable, like, retrospective view on this when Todd releases that Instagram thing,

like the other day in real time. Yep. We get this episode. Yep. Adriana calls out exactly what it is. Oh, yeah, so we can make all the excuses in the world when Todd wants to go on a rant on Instagram about Anthony and chocolates and all this stuff.

Now he's going on a rant talking about Bravo producers, and we're going to make all the excuses in the world for that. But if Jody wants to stick up for his girlfriend, no, we can't do that. No, absolutely not. That's ludicrous. Yeah. Good point for Adriana, though.

It was. She made a lot of good points, but then she's upset because she's taken on Lisa's pain from what it sounds like. Empath. And she starts crying. Uh-huh. Sure.

Let's just move past that quick. Like, whatever. Yeah, whatever. But Larsa, who is emboldened now, is like, go sit in the corner and cry. I was like, whoa. Why is you got to catch it as great? I actually kind of liked that, though. That was funny.

Get out of my face. Go cry over there. This is stupid. Until she keeps telling everyone to leave her. I thought that was funny to lead into the bit. Like Lisa, she's like, don't sit across me. Everyone just go sit at another table. Yeah, go sit over there.

Maybe just leave, even though. Larsa, like, what, 15 minutes ago, got up in a storm and getting a fucking tizzy. I'm out of here, guys. I can't handle this. She's making this whole trip about her. Fine, whatever, okay. But now you're telling people to leave. That's different. You're going to stay. It doesn't

make sense. It's different. It's different. Same, same, but different. Well, Lisa comes and sits down and asks Larsa, what's the problem? She's like, well, Jody won't stop texting me, like, blah, blah, blah. Obviously, we know what's going on. And we just get more of the same, the back and forth that we've seen already. But,

amidst this, Lisa's taking notes. I'm taking notes on her phone. Marisol calls her out. Are you taking notes? She's you're damn right. I'm taking notes. And I understand, like, you don't want to feel like you have to walk on eggshells around your friends, and I do feel like it's an invasion of privacy if they're writing everything down.

Yeah. When it comes specifically to Larsa, who likes to try to spin things and act like she didn't say things or somebody else said it first, yeah. I kind of feel like it's necessary to take some notes.

It's, I would, yeah, I think for Lisa, it's definitely necessary because she's the one who always misremembers what Larsa says and falls into that word. Larson knows she's going to do it. So when it comes time for the reunion, you even watched the episodes and still have the facts wrong on what Larsa said. And if you slip up on even one word, she's going to get you. Now, the funny thing is, I do feel like Lisa, do you think she has a shorthand? Like she's a court typewriter?

That's what I would love to know if she runs it back and she's like, what did I say? What fuck is this? What did she say to me? It's like you writing in your journal. You just got like chicken scratch. Like sometimes I have to like, who the hell is J and J? What's going on here? So I would like to know if she has a shorthand.

So Lisa, if you're listening, let us know. We would like to know. Give us the breakdown of your shorthand because I would really like to see it. The other part is if she, and this isn't going to work, but if she explained it in a good way to the rest of the group, I'm only doing this for Lisa or for Larissa rather. And only the things that she says to me are the things that I'm. I'm going to write down so that I remember later because I have such a problem with her. She twists my words and I would to know exactly what she said and what the situation was.

I do think on some level the cast would understand. Yeah, but some of the cast would agree to it even, like, verbally. But Lisa would never be able to articulate that in the moment. She gets frazzled and then she just starts saying things. And I just, this is, it is funny, and I don't want Housewives to continue to do this. This is a one-time shot. Continue to write down if you're Lisa, because it's funny as hell. Yeah.

And it gets everybody worried. Like, they don't want to get sued. How are they going to get sued? She's writing down on a notes app. Like, come on, let's go. But it is really funny. A huge element of housewives is misremembering things and then getting furious about those things. So please don't continue to do this if you're another housewife.

Yeah. It's one and done. Dangerous precedent to set. But the next day, the group splits into two to try to cool down a little bit. We got one crew going tile making. We've got, it's just a bit of a split. scene, and I know this is a nightmare for you to write down. I figured out a new method. Oh, you got a new

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Yeah. She's starting to wear on me a little bit. There's a lot of forcing the rich stuff in there and the fact that she works because, like, even in the tile making, they're talking about, does anybody draw? And she's like, oh, I doodle in meetings. It's like, oh, cool. All that does is just confirm exactly what we all think. You do nothing at work.

Absolutely nothing. You've just been showing up to these meetings on camera. We haven't seen you go back since. And Marisol is not drawing a dong, but she had drawn. songs previously. For sure. And it's a very minimalist approach. Yeah.

That was well done. And we get the entire cast drawing weaners. Yeah. Except Larsa. Yeah. Too cool. Come on. Just draw a penis.

Just draw a dick. Like what the hell? What's the problem? Everyone else is doing it. Yeah. Some of them were really funny. Actually, who was it? Of course, Stephanie immediately just falls.

Yeah, hers was scary. But of course, she immediately calls Missoud. She's like, look, it's your weener. It looks just. Just like it, he says. Exactly like it. I hope not. If you believe the facade of their marriage, I don't know.

Maybe she hasn't seen his wiener in a while. Hey, no. Hey, who knows what's going on there? I'm just kidding. They're in love, guys. No, somebody drew a very upsetting penis, and it was... Julia. Is it Julia, the one that, like, the head was balls?

Yeah. Yeah, I didn't like that at all. I didn't either. It was just going to be a fun activity, and then it scared the hell out of it. That one was alarming. I thought Stephanie's was a little bit alarming as well. Yeah, there was some shit. shading in there. She spent way too much time on that.

It had like a cape, I don't know. But the other group is going to Al-Kazar, which is an old palace, the oldest palace in Europe. I always love when we do any kind of sightseeing. I don't know if Adriana Wikipedia is it before they go.

I do think that she is intelligent. I think that she is very smart. I think she's incredibly book smart. Yeah, I do too. Yeah, I think that she is. And I love the little tagline on the bottom. What is it? Resonant? Knower of all things. When Adriana starts to speak, it's eloquent. I know.

She has her facts. I don't care if she just read it on Wikipedia. If I read all of that on Wikipedia before I showed up there, I'd butcher half of it. I'd remember two or three that were like really stuck out to me. The rest, I'd be like, yeah, are you drawn a dick right now? No. Okay. I thought you were just doodling in the middle of the meeting?

No, I'm just taking a note. But yeah, I do appreciate what she brings to the table. I think she's incredibly book smart, and she's probably pretty street smart. it. She's just, she's getting a handle on those emotions. Yeah, she gets a little a little Adriana, you know? Yeah. It's the only way to explain it to it. But we jump back over to the tile painting

for an interesting conversation. That leads to a very interesting conversation at the end of the episode. And I don't care for this, honestly, because they're sitting there talking and the question of Lisa on the private plane comes up. So now they're concerned that this 22-minute flight is going to be affected by the fact that Lisa is a part of it. Julius sees her opening and jumps in and tells everyone, well, you know, Derek and Jeffrey, yeah, who they're

going to see, I'm going to ask them to be the kid's godparents. I don't want Lisa's vibe to ruin that, Stephanie. So we should probably not have her. And then you got Larsa teaming up and saying, you know, I was shaking yesterday, which is an absurd thing to say. Just ridiculous. You were, maybe you were shaking with excitement because you had something to do. Exactly.

And you had something delivered on a silver platter. Like, whoa, how many episodes can I get this going for? Yep. That's really what I get. So this conversation was just kind of pissing me off back and forth. And this was actually referring to the last episode when people were going after Stephanie and Alexia said, it feels like you're just kind of dangling this carrot of your private jet. That's what this was. Why are we talking about your private jet?

Who gives a shit? This is so stupid. Who cares? And they kept hammering home the 22 minute flight. We got it. It's nothing. 22 minutes are you? kidding me you have to put her in like a different compartment somewhere

and throw Adriana somewhere else like this is insane to me that they're really making this big of a deal and this is exactly what you're doing we gave you props last week and said we didn't feel like you were dangling a carrot you were just trying to figure out who you wanted on the plane and people kept turning you down because they wanted to be together so you came to the conclusion that you're going to go with this crew yeah okay cool you shouldn't get shit for that you should get shit for this this is stupid now you've done dangled a carrot and yep when explaining it i i know this was a choice and it makes it that much more irritating,

she's ruined the environment. Yeah. Runed. Runed. It's ruined. Yeah. Okay. I don't believe, correct us if we're wrong here. Don't think this was a language barrier thing.

No, not at all. This was a choice to try to sound like she was more formal than everybody else. Let me present an alternative, which could be fun for the show. All right. If you're so worried that Lisa is going to be late, and she doesn't show up on time, leave her ass. That's great. That's awesome.

Sure. Then we get footage of Lisa's sitting at the airport like, what the fuck? What's going on? And by the way, you could double down and maybe get a change of behavior. Hey, Lisa, we told you to be on time. You still weren't on time. It's disrespectful and rude. We left your ass.

That's all. That's awesome. So simple. That's incredible. And make sure you hammer it home at dinner later, at lunch, whatever it might be. Let her know, we're not waiting for you. If you're not on time, you're left. That's it.

That's all it should be, but all of these conversations, I can't believe how many conversations we had about this. It's so stupid. About jettiquette? Shut off. It's 22 minutes. Oh, 22 minute flight. Yeah.

Put your fucking headphones on, losers. Ed really, really grinded my gear. Let me tell you. Back at Al-Kazar, Lisa's talking about her lawsuits and everything that she's been through, and that's the other side of this whole thing. Is she annoying? Yeah. Is it played up?

Yeah. Does she bring it up too much? yeah but she's still going through a lot of shit so when you see the scene prior where julia's saying I know she's going through stuff but it's like there's not really a butt there if you guys are actually somewhat friends with this person I know it's irritating but like the way that they're throwing it out just because Lenny's not prominent this season I guess they're like not talking about it at all I don't know I weirdly started to feel bad for where I'm like I mean you're not getting any grace and I know a lot of her grace has worn thin

Rightfully so. But at the same time, it's like, this was too much. It was just too much for me. Here's the thing. If her grace wore thin and they kept talking about how Gertie was going through breast cancer and she still made it all about herself, fine. That's a good example. That's a great example.

I do kind of like on this cast especially, seems like nobody really gets grace. You might get like, this Alexia Todd shit could change things. But right now, I mean, even Marisol going to confessionals talking about how she's upset about it. if she continues to get grace and we get to the end of the season and nobody says a word, then I'm going to be a little annoyed. But I feel like across the board, people don't really get grace, and it's usually in different forms. If Lisa, it's more verbal, like she's annoying the shit out of me, stop doing it. But it's almost like she did herself a disservice because we even said this last week or the week before.

It seems like she came into the season thinking, I'm not going to talk about all the shit I'm going through with Lenny. I'm only going to talk about what's going on with me and Jody. I'm only going to just like kind of allude to things here and there, but I'm not going to just, overdo it, which she did last year. Yes. Which was annoying, and rightfully so, it was very annoying. But now we agreed, we're like, she's not even really talking about Lenny at all. And you guys are still giving her shit for talking about Lenny.

Her mood's going to be affected. Like, let her go through shit. And she did just get some kind of affidavit that she has to sign. Now did she forget about it for two days? Probably. But, like, this is all still actually happening. Her son's sitting there telling her, I want to push you and daddy together. That's brutal.

That's tough. Yeah. I know. I feel like she should. get a little bit more grace than she's getting, but listening to Alexia try to break down the situation because she's team Larsa. And she's like, you know, this whole time, Larsa's been saying like, hey, Lisa, you're my friend. Could you just unfollow? I'm like, she doesn't talk like that. No. That's like, what do you mean? She's never been that mellow.

If she was that mellow, it might have happened. But she hasn't asked, she's told her to and then yelled at her for not doing it. We're all in the same team. She should have unfollowed him immediately. Yeah. There's no reason for her to still do that. But that's not how Larsa talks. No, it's not how Larsa talks about anything. Even when she's excited or happy about things, she doesn't talk like that. Nope.

So I do like that. That's kind of funny. It's like a negative caricature about Larsa. Exactly. Yeah, we're not overdoing it. We're actually underdoing it. She's actually really nice. She's a great person.

She's the best. Yep. Nope. But we get some good news. Lisa unfollows Marcus. It doesn't matter how we got there. We got there. They make a pact.

to not tell anybody. Yeah. I don't know why. I don't. I think there's two things. Either they wanted it to be Lisa's news, or they wanted to downplay it as much as possible. Or...

Or they were hoping Larsa would call her out again, and she can be like, guess what, bitch? I already unfollowed him. Maybe that's what it was. But this is the way to do it, by the way. And this is why that group is so much better. And I know Kiki and Adriana kind of butt heads at the end, which was weird.

but in this setting is a much better setting for Lisa because she can still sit there and say over and over I'm not going to do anything that Larsa tells me to do and they finally do get through to her they're like this is so stupid just please unfollow him so that the rest of us different correct she doesn't feel like Larsa told her to do it. Yeah they do it so it's almost like under the guise of

we're trying to help you and also us because it's really fucking dumb just do it who cares okay fine yep yeah that's pretty much it That was good. Moving on, we get Marisol and Julia are going to sit down with Lisa and, as far as I understand, tell her that she's not invited. Yeah, I was confused about this. I thought it was, I don't know, my takeaway from the tile making situation was we started off with she's not allowed to come.

And then we kind of found the middle ground of we need to strongly word this. So that's kind of what I thought this conversation was going to. be if she's not allowed on Stephanie's jet why the fuck are these two talking to her that's what I was in Stephanie to her if you're going to dangle the jet you got to go talk about I don't understand it since Stephanie and Larsa send Stephanie and Alexia like why are these two and Stephanie the nicer people and Julia you know I'm going to use that word very loosely but Marisol is like a wreck over it she's like I don't want to do this this is awful and she loves Lisa so her sitting down to do this it seemed in the beginning of the conversation that we

were going in that direction. Like, hey, I know, and then she cuts them off, and Lisa understands, this is what this is about. I'm not going to ruin the experience. I'm not going to ruin any of this going on. I'll be on my best behavior. I'll be all my best behavior. It's going to be okay.

Nope. Well, I mean, I don't know. This is where Lisa loses you because, and I also think that it's interesting if you can have different rules for different people because I don't think the baskets were for everybody. She's like, if we put a basket on the plane, you put your phone in the basket. When we get to the house, you put your phone in the basket. If no one else is doing it, I don't agree with it because I just don't think that that's the right way to do it. It just goes to the writing down notes thing. That's all it was. Otherwise, like, she's not going to be on the phone on the jet. I mean, I'm assuming it has Wi-Fi, but like, isn't that okay if she's sitting up there texting the entire time for 22 minutes?

So you think this is only about the notes? Yeah, it's only about the notes. That's the vibe that I got. It's just we're really uncomfortable with you taking notes. Again, the whole show. was filmed. This is so stupid. And she's only doing it for Larsa, but she just can't eloquently put it. Well, she does say it here. Not eloquently, but she's like, I'm only taking notes on Larsa. And then Julia, I don't know if she hears herself, but she's like,

only Larsa, Larsa's our friend. What's Lisa? Yeah. Like, I just the way that we analyze when people have different fights with each other and who's right, who's wrong, but they all say the same thing. And then in their confessional,

I like, there's contradictory shit like this. Like, Larsa's our friend. So is Lisa, according to you. Yeah. She's annoying you right now. So we're more Larsa team. Julia finding her voice is probably the worst thing

to happen to the show. It's really fucking frustrating. It's incredibly frustrating because she brings nothing positive to the show. She brings nothing good. She doesn't further any good storylines. The only time that it's good that she's on the show is when people are just going after her.

Yeah. For shitty behavior and contradicting herself or just talking behind people's back. So those are the good moments. otherwise we don't need this like this does nothing no it's just stupid it's such a stupid comment and there's just no understanding i think marisol's trying to get marisle's trying her hardest to understand she's trying her she does i think to some degree understands what lisa's saying i think she's just trying to like capture lisa in a bottle like stop yeah like just knock

it off we know what you're talking about just enough right now don't do it till we get home yeah let's get back to miami and then you can do whatever the fuck you want but right now stop it Yep, agreed. On their way to dinner. And again, this seemed like a negative, but this is kind of what the issue's been. Like, Lisa's late to come downstairs or she calls them and says, hey, I'm late. I'm going to take a cab, you guys go ahead. Yeah.

And they're all irritated. I'm like, that's a step in the right direction. That's what I thought. I'm like, yeah. Well, she didn't call, Alexia called her. But still, I mean, she let them know. Yeah, I don't know. It makes her answering the phone.

And go ahead without me. This is also an extenuating circumstance because she did have that conversation with Marisol and Julia, where she basically ended it saying, I'm going to go home. I don't want to deal with this. I don't feel welcome here. I feel like since I've gotten here. And again, it took her 24 hours to get here. So at some level, she is fucking exhausted and doesn't want to deal with this.

And she has to deal with it. And some of it's her undoing. That's fine. But yeah, the end of that conversation, she was going home. So, of course, it's going to take her longer to get ready. And I know I'm not making excuses for her being late. She's always late. But still, she told you, go ahead without me.

You shouldn't be allowed to be annoyed at that point. unless you've been waiting there for 20 minutes and then somebody called her and said this. I agree. So it's stupid. It just feels like they're trying to find anything to get mad at her now. And I'm not really even team Lisa. I'm just trying to see both sides of this whole thing. But when Adriana gets in the car and opens the door and sees Julia in the back, she just turns around and goes to the other car, which I love.

Yeah, which is funny, too, because it's Alexia and Marisol the other car. Yeah. But it's great because it was a normal car ride, too. It was a great car. She's had a good trip overall until, like, the very end. She chimed in, like, a nice way talking to Alexia. Or she was the one who asked Alexia the question. Why didn't she get married to a Spaniard?

Yeah. And Alexia opened up and answered correctly. It's like, oh, right, that's great. He was engaged to Pesico. You didn't get mad at Adriana immediately for asking a question. That's very nice. Good. Let's keep this going.

Let's move this forward. Instead, in the other car, you've got Julia. I don't understand what the issue is. You should. How? Like, and that's the thing. I wonder if deep down Julia is, like, because we didn't really see her and Gertie resolve anything. They've been way nicer. I think they've both agreed to just like move on.

Yeah, whatever. The whole thing is just done, kaput. Let's just move on. And that's kind of what we're seeing in Savi, Seville. Seville. Seville. I don't know. But Julia, this didn't go away. You're still neglecting Adriana so that you can be with the cool kids. And she just will never see it that way. Not even that. Just take the other friends out of it, the Alexia and Marisaw out of it. You haven't been a good friend to Adriana, period. No, she's never defended Adriana, I guess, Alexia and Marisol. Nope.

And now she's friends with them, so she definitely won't. Exactly. Let's get to dinner, and we find out Alexia made a Todd Tile because she loves her husband so much. If I was one of her friends, dude, if I'm Marisol, I might quit the friendship. Yeah. Like, this is all for not. There's nothing I can do. But break the tile first.

What's that? Break the tile first. Oh, yeah. That would be so fun. And, like, right down the middle, so it's perfectly splitting T and A, A and T. That would be great. It's just, it's really, look, I get it's a nuanced situation. Like, they're married, there's a lot of emotions.

They're trying to figure out what to do. But the staunch difference of what we saw when she went to dinner with Johnny, and then now, I guess my problem is, and I don't know, maybe it's happened off camera. If we get to this point, how did we get here? You know what I mean? How are we, like, just totally cool with Todd. We haven't had any conversations. We haven't seen her talk to Marisol.

I don't think she has. No. But now it's like, it's like she completely disregards that she was talking shit. If she acknowledged at any point, I know that I'm up and down. I know I'm hot and cold. I really want to get this and see if this works. Yeah. All right, fine.

I simply don't think based on Todd's Instagram. video based on where we are currently. I don't think he's going to be on the show, and I don't think we're going to get any sort of closure or any sort of solution or resolution. I don't want to talk about him, that. Exactly. If he's not on the show and there's all these things moving around in parts where we're not allowed to go with Alexia to New York, she traveled to New York for a weekend.

Like, yeah, you could say the same thing about Stephanie and Massoud, but like, we don't need to see that. They're married. They seem very happy, whatever, believe it or not. But with Alexia and Todd, it's a huge storyline. that we're just... It is her storyline. And it's not even like we're neglecting it.

He is not on the show. He doesn't want to be on the show. But they're still talking about him and we just magically go from... He's leasing all these things. He's got financial problems too. I love my husband so much. I made him a tile.

We've had such an interesting relationship. It's like, no. Give us the middle. They can't do this. I need something in the middle. At the very least, I just need Alexia to sit down in a confessional and break it down for us.

Why is she not doing that? Why are the producers not pushing her to do that? I don't know. If we're going to continue to talk about it, otherwise don't. It's wildly irritating. And if you mentioned Todd's name, she jumps down your throat and yells at you. So there's like no middle ground here. It's bugging the shit out of me. I would much rather just not. It has to be taboo at this point. Just nobody in the cast can talk about it. You can get annoyed with her. Fine. Whatever. If that leads to a blowup, great. Breakup and

friendship, fine. But don't talk about Todd and her relationship because it's stupid. It's not worth the time at all. And at this dinner, that's when Adriana let slip that Lisa unfollowed Marcus earlier today, Kiki checks her and says you weren't supposed to say anything, which is important in about five minutes. Yeah. This is when Larsa replies, we're so past that. Why? I thought that was the whole thing.

I thought that was the issue. So if that's cleared up, now she went, oh, shit, I need something to yell at her for. Good thing. I still have Jody's text messages. But how are you past that? I thought that was the root of everything. I think that's, I don't want to call it like, I don't really know what it is. is honestly. Maybe the group is like just fatigued from fighting or they're lethargic with

certain things or it just might be the travel of it all. Who knows what it is? Why did nobody say anything to Larsa? Like if any reasonable person sitting there and we had to hear about this all last night, obviously the Jody text messages came in, but that was still a root problem from her following Marcus and refusing to unfollow him, this is the problem. How does nobody there sitting there go, we just had to hear about this last night? What do you mean it's not the problem? Check Larsa. so past that. And that's, I think, the one little thing that this show is missing that you'll get in like a Salt Lake City. Somebody says something stupid like that. Somebody on the other side is going to say something, even if it's fucking Whitney. Who cares? But somebody needs to step up and it feels like,

I don't want to say there's teams, obviously, but it's just like certain people are untouchable. Yeah. Where why is Alexia allowed to just scream at people and say, don't talk about Todd? Why is Larsa allowed to say something stupid and asinine like this? And nobody says anything to her. It just pisses me off. Agreed. It frustrates me every time it happens, and it happens a lot. Yeah. I'm here for Bet Rivers Online Casinoe and Sportsbook with poker icon Phil Helmuth. Thanks to Bet Rivers, I'm also a slots icon.

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Extremely awkward. And she's two hours late. So now, allegedly. I don't know if she's two hours out. I don't know either, but that's where they need to, producers have to throw in the time. Timestamp would be great. But Larsa, it's just ammo. She's giving her more and more ammo because she walks in late.

And I wasn't sure where this was going to go. Luckily, Kiki jumps in and says, hey, just a heads up, Adriana told Larsa. After we all pinky promise to not do that. Adriana with a tough response. Yeah. Stop being so ratchet. Don't think she knows what that means. I don't think so either.

Because that's tough. That's no. So Kiki, understandably so, gets a little agitated. And fucking Julia's like, Kiki's overreacting. I was like, you shut up. That was wild. You shut up. That was a wild reaction.

And at first I'm like, holy shit, Julie is standing up for Adriana? No, I think she just doesn't like Kiki. Yeah. The fact that she said that, I was like, whoa. dude like you're not involved in this shit no not at all and it was not and anybody who was watching that that wants to try to say that she was defending adriana she wasn't she wasn't absolutely not she just took an opportunity to take a shot at kiki for 100% and on kiki's side of things like she's pissed i would be pissed too like that's a fucked up thing to say especially in that moment

they do try to decipher does she know what ratchet means i don't think she does don't believe that she knows what ratchet means no and she probably heard it somewhere once it was like oh this is a good word. She probably heard it in the song. Yeah. She's like, oh, I'm going to use that. Wow. So Kiki claps back and makes an old comment.

Let's not forget that on the yachts, like last week, Adriano is yelling from boat to boat to Marisol calling her old. Yeah. In multiple ways, wrinkly, all sorts, bony knees, all that stuff. All right. Now Kiki's being agist. Yeah. This is a massive issue. Oh, my God.

How that. you, it was so fucking funny. This whole scene was incredible. Unbelievable, because you think, and this is, again, what you get with this crew, you think we're going to just deal with Lisa and Larson, it's going to be that. You're going to have Stephanie chiming in because she's got a vendetta against Lisa for being late. You're going to have other people stepping in and talking about shit that really doesn't matter

at all. Instead, something unfolds that we never saw coming between two people that we didn't really see interacts that much throughout this trip. Or ever. Yeah. And, like, that's the best part because. it cools down for a second. And Lisa goes to apologize.

Larsa says, look, we're all friends. We're all going to be friends. I was like, holy shit, we're going to resolve the Lisa Larson thing. Good. It's time for us to move on. Lisa keeps going. She's saying, like, he wants my phone. I'll give up my phone.

She's finally playing ball. Everyone's about to kumbaya. I was like, hell yeah. But this was so much better because Adriana just goes, she literally interrupts and goes, I got to go back to Miami to babysit because that's what grandmoms do? And I was like,

where the fuck did that come from? I love the random shots because it doesn't make any sense talking about Kiki. And Kiki's, of course, going to take it away of like, who do you think's watching my kids? Like, I've got my kids

under control. I'm a great mom. I take care of my mom. I don't think it was Adriana saying, I have to go babysit Kiki's kids because she's a bad mom. No. It was simply just,

I'm a grandmom. I have to go babysit kids. I'm old and I watch kids. So literal and stupid. Dude. In the middle of an apology, in a middle of, hey, we've got a resolution, maybe, at least, you know, we never really believe that Larson is resolving anything. She's just like, okay, yeah, we can move on.

She'll bring it back up in two or three episodes. But at least for the rest of the trip, we might be in a good place. No, this is just going to completely devolve. It was so good. It was great. The timing was impeccable. I don't know if somebody, like, told her if this goes, you got to break it up. Yeah.

Like, it was such a good moment for Adriana. And now it starts to pop off at dinner Like it usually does Everyone's going back and forth Adrian is just saying respect over and over again Respect your elders Which is even fun Like she doesn't realize that she's leaning into it

But she is that it's funny Unintentionally Yeah That makes it that much better Now Stephanie lost me again She took a lot of steps back This episode So now Stephanie gets up

Now she's reprimanding the group This is the third dinner ruined Like can we just get through one I wanted to, like, in real life, be able to cut her off and say, hey, have you ever seen the real housewives? Not one franchise can get through a dinner on skate. No. It doesn't happen.

Nope. But the way that she's talking. Like, I don't know. If I was sitting there and an adult was doing that to me, that would drive me fucking nuts. I'd be like, who do you think you are telling me how to behave an act? Like, you're new here. Maybe you don't watch the shows.

Like, this is all pretty normal. This is actually fairly mellow compared to a lot of dinners that we've seen. Yeah. I didn't like that she stood up and did that. Once again, Adriana saves the day because she gets up the storm out. Stephanie's like, I'm not leaving with you. She's like, I, what did she say? No, it was just like, that was the only little funny thing that Stephanie did because

you turn around and you just see Adriana leaving with you. I'm not leaving with you. What are you doing? Sit back down. Yeah. That was funny. And she said, I have to go babysit because I'm old. Yeah.

I'm old. I got to go. It was so good. She actually leaves first. she storms out before Stephanie storms out, but what came from this and what the other lady started doing, I was so like...

Stephanie was fucking crying in the back of the sprinter van. I get it. If you're going to stand up and reprimand the group because they are so low class and they're just creating a shitstorm in the middle of this beautiful restaurant in Spain,

fine. I'll let you have that. It can turn into something funny if people then get mad at you and say you were talking down to them. That could be something to hold on to for tomorrow. but instead you get to the sprinter van and you're crying you're that overwhelmed dude really it was she's crying and everyone else

that is under the spell of the PJ and the money alexia like oh my god that was so embarrassing like I'm so sorry julia's upper ass larce's upper ass I was like guys can we not do this like this is so embarrassing your only saving grace in that entire group was Marisol like this is fucking absurd yeah this is why I drink and then she's pouring. I don't even know what she was doing. She had two glasses.

Like a martini into a martini. Like. It's the same glass. But it's just fucking annoying. Yeah. But yeah, when she goes through and starts making the diagram of the jet. They make a seating chart and like on the back of the fucking itinerary, which you know what? Maybe that is part of like the PJ lifestyle.

I don't know. I have a feeling it probably is. Yeah. I don't think like I imagine that the jet company that she uses that like owns the. actual jet, because I don't think she owns the jet. She probably just leases it. I imagine that they probably print out an itinerary and say, here you go. This is the time we're leaving. This is when we have to close doors. But still, to be able to like, again, dangle that carrot and be like, here, you know, the rest of the women aren't getting these

itineraries. So maybe I'll just, like, I'll just draw something right here. And this is a little compartment that we have with a closed door. We can throw Troublemaker number one in there with Adriana. We can do this. Maybe, I don't even know if Lisa can come at this point. Lisa just absolved herself. She apologized. Hopped to everything. Apologize to strangers. Apologize to all the strangers on the way out. Apologize to Larsa.

So at this point, you have to let Lisa go. And it would be insane if you don't let Lisa go. But instead, you're just drawing this and the other women are eating it up. Maybe take a picture of that and send it to the group chat. This is what we're going to do. Here's the seating chart. Like, shut up. It was so brutal.

It's like we could put one person in isolation. It's a 20-minute ride. It's crazy. And this is when I wrote down, she's using this PJ as a bargaining chip or dangling the carrot. like this is this is gross yeah this was gross and just not funny like you're making this we love wealth we love like stupid like crazy i don't give a shit wealth you not like this this i got this is two i booked two flights yeah so that we don't have to go with her fine that's awesome that's funny good that's great that's funny i got you guys a flight to go out this way great

that's awesome just put adriana and lisa over there kind of funny because then at least they can bond over what the fuck's going on here why are we doing this, I don't know, but to do something like this is stupid. Yeah. You're too strict with your wealth, and I don't like that. Yeah, and you're like trying to figure out who's sitting in the cuck chair, like on the plane. Thank God for Marisol.

I thought I was going crazy, because all of the other ladies that are just under this spell, like I said, are just like, oh, we can do this, we can do that. We really don't want to, Julia won't shut the fuck up of the godfather thing. He's like, I don't want to ruin it. Stop. Like, we get it. And you know what the funny part is?

This could be, again, If Julia wasn't, like, ludicrous, if her wife wasn't crazy online and shit like that, and we actually liked Julia, this would be, and we're going to get it next episode, a nice moment. Sure. You adopted these boys. You're asking your lifelong friends, if they could be the godfathers, that would be incredible. Instead, it's going to be dead air. It's going to be 10 minutes of you just kind of going back and forth with them. I'm sure they're lovely people, but we're going to hear from them for about 10 minutes and not give a shit.

No, because it's going to be a stupid part of the episode. Because Martina and Julia are assholes. Yeah. Like, they're shitty people. They're proving it in real time. Go on Twitter. Like, I agree with you. And she's fallen so far down the ranks this season that I don't really care.

She was never really that high, but she was just, like, cannon fodder. She was just good middle level. Every once in a while, you would get, like, a heartwarming moment between the two of them. Now it's like, I don't give a shit about you. They got too much screen time. And now... There's too much screen time. She's got too much of a voice and there's too much going on firmly in the camp of don't bring her back next season.

I would be fine. There's no reason. And the cast will not suffer. The show will not suffer. suffer if Julia's not there. But thank God for Marisol. She's like, Stephanie's lost it. I don't like this.

I don't care for how she's talking about everybody. I do, I mean, she depends. This is, it kind of goes hand in hand with the Todd situation. She wouldn't normally speak up because if Alexia is on board, she's going to be on board and she's going to put a smile on her face and then probably bitch about it later. But if they're not on the best of terms because she's kind of annoyed with her about Todd, maybe she will go against the grain. What if Marisol defects and starts being friends with Adriana?

I don't think that. God, I would love that. But I don't know. I just, I'm glad she stood up and said something, even if it's just her not acknowledging and saying, like, I'm leaving, this is ridiculous. I think that'll have more of an effect. I think when Marisol decides something or goes against the rest of the group, the group tends to pay attention to that.

You can even hear how they're talking about it. When she starts to get aggravated with this situation, the vibe shifts a little bit. into like, oh, we can do this, just to make sure everyone's on the plane. And then Lars is always there to bring it back down into the dirt. He's like, take a picture and send it to the group chat. Yeah. Show them where they're sitting. Which, again, in a nutshell, could be kind of funny because it is just petty as shit.

But the steps that we've taken to get here have been annoying. Yes. And it's not funny anymore. Especially when you're sitting, like, there's a door right here. It's like, what are you going to kick her out of the fucking plane, dude? What are we talking about here? Yeah, Stephanie had a big regression. I figured it would happen.

I have gotten used to the newbies starting strong and then hitting a little skid. I think she's still good for the show. I'm still enjoying her. Again, we love wealth on these shows, but when you start to use that as like a bargaining chip or like a power

that you're wielding where you can tell people they can do this and can't do that, that's annoying. It just changes the dynamic of the show and I don't care for it. Nope, me neither of that. It's snooty. Snooty. Yep. But we got to watch this before you guys did.

So we didn't put up any questions because you're watching it tonight. Yep. Well, you're listening to this now, but you've watched it last night. You did it the day before, yeah. Yeah. So the one thing we can do, you got anything else? Nope.

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