Bros & Shows - Still Homeless, Not Toothless and Annemarie is Clueless (RHOBH Full Recap)

Episode Date: January 19, 2024

What's up Bros?! We have a MAJOR ANNOUNCEMENT as we lead into today's show... AND WE MEAN MAJOR! Then we are back to our favorite charity, Homeless, Not Toothless. This episode focuses around Annemarie and she's difficult to watch. She continues to be stuck on Sutton's esophagus and we get clips from last week of her talking about it at Lorene's celebration of life for 4 HOURS! The tension between Kyle and Mo continues to grow as we see an awkward car ride between the two of them. We get to hear more from Crystal this episode as she checks in with Jeff and his trip to China. Things boil over at Homeless not Toothless as Sutton attempts to check Annemarie who will hear no reason. Crystal steps in and we see her stand her ground and speak up which is what we've all been wanting and waiting for. Overall a good episode but yet another reminder that Annemarie is not housewife material... Time Stamps: MAJOR ANNOUNCEMENT (1:40) Rose and Thorn (4:26 RHOBH (15:24) This episode is brought to you by Magic Spoon Cereal! We all miss our favorite childhood cereal, now you can enjoy amazing tasting cereal without the guilt! Low carb, high protein, low sugar cereal with so many amazing flavors to choose from. This is a personal fav for Steel, so join the craze and go to magicspoon.com/bravbros to receive $5.00 off your first order! This episode is sponsored by AG1. Getting your vitamins and supplements shouldn't be such a hassle. Get it all in one scoop of AG1. Take control of your health this year! To receive a year supply of vitamin D3K2 and 5 free travel packs go to drinkAG1.com/bravbros! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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And yes, I am a bitch. Bravo Bros. Good evening, everybody, and welcome back to another episode of Bravo Bros, your favorite podcast from the Bros for everybody. For whoever wants to listen, I am your co-host, Steele Russell. joined as always by the one and only remote mcgoats what's up dude remote mcgoats it is nice and icy out there for everybody who's uh who's listening and uh doesn't want to crash their car which is exactly what people do yeah it was a safer bet to do it from our own homes this evening it is it's like 15 degrees outside and it's just sheer ice everywhere yeah it absolutely sucks honestly

uh it's funny because i always look forward to the weather turning and getting a little cold And then after like a week of it, I'm like, ah, no, I'm out. Can't do it anymore. You look forward to the weather getting cold? Yeah, because the allergies mostly. Well, actually, I like the cold, though, too. I don't mind like a, no, see, I'm more of like a fall if it's brisk. Would you rather die freezing or burning?

Burning, probably. I probably would a few people to say that. Yeah, you're so dumb. You're so wrong. So, actually, I am wrong, because if you freeze, I think it's something. point you like go into shock i think they from going to shock and you also can't feel things like you yeah you get frostbite and stuff but like you just have to watch as your appendages just fall off and stuff which is fun i guess but i don't think when you burn just turn black

yeah and then they start falling off i don't think they just fall off yeah i'm glad we're tackling the important issues today this is what i wanted to talk about so this is perfect actually um okay but um look i'm not going to i'm not going to beat around the bush okay we're not going to ease into this thing we have major news all right like massive like the biggest news out which i hit it major news did it go yeah it went hey i can't hear you can major news why don't you drop the news shoots why don't you let our audience know what we've been trying to subtly hint at for like weeks because we haven't been allowed to say it and it's been driving us nuts.

If you caught on to the hints, I don't think anybody did because they were super subtle. They were fucking terrible hints. They weren't great, but we weren't allowed to say anything. We are allowed to say something now. So I'm going to shut up. Take it away. Yeah. It is Friday, January 19th, I think, whatever the fucking date of tomorrow is or whatever

the hell Friday is. And we've got some major news. The boys are going to be bartenders. I'll watch what happens live. Tuesday, January 23rd, we'll see you guys there live and in person looking fucking great. I'm a little fearful that we have to mix up some drinks. I don't know how to make drinks like that, but somebody's probably going to do it for us. And we're going to be there looking good.

That's all that really matters. So tune in. I think Heather's going to be the guest. I'm not sure who the other guest is, but it doesn't matter because we're the guests. It's our show. We're going to take over the show. No, we're absolutely not going to do that at all. I've been doing my homework.

I've been watching Watch What Happens Live. Our job is to stand there. We're supposed to look pretty. We're supposed to not talk unless Andy talks to us. And if he does talk to us, we've got to be short and sweet. We can't. They're not there to watch us. We're just an accessory to the show.

They're there to watch Heather. Don't get it twisted. They might be there to watch us. Nobody's there to watch us. But so as Shooter just said, tune in. I think it's at 915 after the third. part of the Salt Lake reunion come check out your boys on bravo we're super excited and then get your tickets to our live show on thursday as he said we are expecting an influx i'm not saying that it's

going to be i'm hoping that it's a big influx but there's not that many tickets left to begin with so make sure you get those tickets if you are planning on going if you're waiting for the last minute they might not be there after tuesday so are faithful the all of you that listen to us frequently we want you guys to have first dibs so make sure you get those tickets come hang out with us it's our first headline show we're super excited green room 42 next thursday night get them ticks bruh we'll see you in new york city good but it is our end of the week episode since it is the end of the week we are going to do our rose and thor and i figure we should just jump right in it's cold outside we don't need to you know do the whole preamble let's just dive into some rose and thorns why don't

you start us out there hot shot i will i will i've got a rose to start off with which comes from chip banta and Chip said that he saw a clip of ours in the earlier days when we first started and we annoyed the shit out of him. Actually, in general, he was just annoyed and he said, I was annoyed that these dudes had a podcast in general. Okay. That's fair enough. I get that. Yeah, no, that's fair. But he came back.

He circled back and gave us a try. And now he's rooting for us to quit our jobs in 2024. Isn't that nice? That's honestly the best compliment that we get. Even looking forward to tour dates being announced. So we love you, Chip. Thanks for giving us another shot. And hopefully we don't disappoint you, honestly,

because he was annoyed with us to begin with. He might be annoyed with us later. I feel a lot of pressure now. Chip put a lot of pressure on me. I'm not going to lie. I feel like a chip on my shoulder. Yeah, whenever I hear Chip, I think it's Chip Skylark from fairly odd parents.

I get nothing there. A chip on my shoulder? That's funny. You're better than that. Yeah, that's good. I already had the Chip Skylark thing going, so I think I actually ignored you. Is Chip Skylark?

was he the popular singer in fairly odd parents yeah yeah my shiny teeth and me oh thank you yeah yeah great song um i'll sing that all day yeah uh and then my my thorn we discussed this a couple of weeks ago when we were on crappins i finally did the redid dive oh no i told you not people are not dude i told you not to do that i tried to give you a heads up man it's look if you go at it the right way. It's enjoyable. I know. And I always forget about Reddit being a good source for these types of things. Or just kind of like, you know, put my finger on the pulse of the brab bros. So I was looking at it and that whole thread is a nightmare, dude. But the good saving grace halfway through, I mean, I read there are hundreds and hundreds of comments on that video alone.

It just goes to show you how polarizing watcher Grapids is. And they have such a huge audience that these things happen, I guess. But yeah, I'm not even going to talk about obviously. the oversights where they were just saying things that we didn't say at all and people that just didn't like us in general halfway through somebody ripped them apart and said every time that these guys have a guest on their show you guys rip them apart can you just enjoy the show for the love of god after i read that i'm like all right cool i'm done and i got out of there yeah that was that was that was a hellscape it's i you have to approach it the right way and if you do it's funny but yeah it's i i had a blast with it but uh

Those are good. Those are good. I'm going to go on to my Rosen Thorn. And gosh, do I have a good one this week? I'm so excited. I've been chopping at the bit. I was going to save Rosen Thorne for a Friday episode. But I was so excited at this thorny, rosy thorn that I had to do it today. But let me start out with, let me start out with like a firm rose. Okay. And this is similar to what you said. And that's what's really funny. But this comes from an Apple Podcast. podcast review and it says at first dot dot dot five stars that says i thought that the brav bros at first were pandering to the female bravo watchers but these guys are legit bravo watchers i've been inspired to watch more shows with my husband and i finally have gotten him hooked and that comes from it's a nightmare of a username it's like mr dirt dr trman wouldn't work is the best i can do and if you read it you'll understand but that's the goal like that's literally what we're trying to do here is bridge the gap between husbands and wives getting people that don't watch Bravo to give it a shot and just you know connect you can connect over

these shows my wife and I do it it's a lovely lovely thing to share so mr. Dicker Dichter Schumer thank you so much for the review that's what we're going for now yeah that's what we started off with hold on that's what we started off with and then we started pandering towards the female audience because we wanted more listeners so that's fair I don't even put that out there because everybody, see, told you. But my rosy, thorny rose is, this is probably my best one yet. And I don't know if we'll ever beat it because it was the perfect timing. And just knowing that it was this visceral of a reaction that we got from them makes me really happy.

And this comes from J.T. And I pretty much have confirmation of this. And I can't prove it in the court of law. but through other commenters and people DMing us, he's been on a blocking rampage. So for those of you that don't know, I posted a TikTok about me and Shooter discussing the nice guy routine. And we've seen it from multiple dudes that we know.

It's a very common practice. You play the nice guy. They try to get close to a girl. They shut him down. And then they get pissed off because they feel like they're owed something. We called it out. That video went super viral on TikTok really fast. We had like 200,000 views in like five hours.

and we recorded, I went to check the video afterwards. We had apparently been reported for violating the safe guidelines of TikTok. Now, if you go through our TikTok and everything that we've said about people over the past two years, I'm not saying that we've said horrible things, but we've called a lot of people out for a lot of shit. We've called people name, stuff like that, okay? This is by no means our most salacious video at all. But I saw that we got reported. and the first thing I could think of is JT had something to do with this.

There's no way that we've talked about everything under the sun in the Bravoverse and never been reported before. And the first time we talk about this dude, we get reported. So I posted it on Instagram and just like I posted a screenshot of the actual reporting. And I was like, I guess JT didn't like our TikTok about him. I'm just going to keep reposting it. The funniest part is that's when people started sending us DMs like, oh, I said this about him and he blocked me. And then we had another one that said, I posted this and he blocked me.

So JT is reading every comment. He's watching every video. And he's trying to defend himself via blocking people. And then he made a post. And this was just the cherry on top. And he quoted David fucking Goggins and said, the only or the best hater I have or the worst hater I have is myself. Like, good luck everybody else. Dude, you're proving our point.

you're proving everybody's point about you. By doing this nonsense, you are literally proving us right that you have this Napoleon complex. You're trying to sound tough. You're trying to look tough. You're blocking people. My man, if you can't handle the heat from me and this idiot, I'm an idiot too. I'm calling us both idiots.

If you can't handle us calling you out and you have to report us because you got your feelings hurt, you don't belong on Bravo. We're definitely not, we have not said the worst things about you. There's no way across like this whole content. creator side of things there's there's definitely worse things out there if you don't know i see i this is this is where i think that we step in and i think that look i mean we've said a lot worse shit about him specifically in the actual podcast there's nothing you can't do about that you can't block us exactly once it gets clipped and then it goes viral on top of his exes putting tictox

out there talking about how much of a piece of shit he is then obviously he's looking so then he start scouring my favorite i like my favorite thing to come out of all of this is our listeners and commenters putting hashtag jt in all of their comments so now when he searches hashtag jt it'll pop up so he'll be able to see all of their comments he'll be able to see all the videos and of course that's exactly what he's doing yeah he's just proving our point and it was really funny because you said that to me last night when we finished i actually was it last night yeah it was last night when we finished recording you had said to me oh my god the video got taken down for bullet that's really funny we had we floated the idea out there that jt or somebody in his camp

ended up trying to get us to take it down or take to take it down whatever but now it's just so much more real because of all the stories that are coming out so that's even funnier and it looks like you've reposted it and it stayed up so ticot doesn't really have any issues with it isn't that interesting and by the way some of the other shit i've seen on ticot that video gets taken down come on now guys come on we know who's behind it and god Just feed my soul, J.T. You're giving me lifeblood, sir. Nothing makes me happier than knowing we got under your skin.

So, God, I wish the reunion, I wish the reunion hadn't happened yet. So there's a chance that maybe our video could pop up on the reunion. And then he actually has to address that. No, no, he never will. And he's, look, he just pissed off because we called out his playbook. That's all that happened. We called out his playbook and now people know who he really is. Not that they needed us to tell them.

I think it's pretty clear if you watch his antics and people. are calling it out without our help like there's been other people that have pointed out that he goes about his whole relationship goals using this nice guy routine so it's not like we unearthed something that no one else saw it's just funny that multiple accounts are saying and multiple accounts are posting it and he's going on this war path of blocking people like that's going to work that makes it worse dude just like listen and maybe apply it to your life and maybe be better no he's not going to do that I mean they don't agree with you we've got this this platform and we're going to use it for evil.

I mean, we're going to use it for good, right? We have a goal here. And that is villainy, sir. So welcome to the bravros. What are you guys going to do when you quit? What are you guys going to do with you quit your jobs and you start making a lot of money from your podcast? Evil.

Just full villain era. Yep. Yep. Yep. But anyway, before we get into the bravo of it all, we have our live show next week. It is Thursday night in New York City. time square at the green room 42 if you haven't gotten your tickets yet i recommend getting them this weekend at the latest because they're going to sell quick once next week rolls around it always

happens that way the week of the show tickets go really fast so make sure you get your tickets and come hang out with us we've got erin litchie coming out to join us from roney we've got the brook ashley's going to be emceeing for us and hanging out giving her opinions as well so we're really excited to hang out with you guys it's our first headline show ever so we want it to go well So buy them tickets. Come hang out with us. We're going to have a blast. And second announcement.

We have another show in Philly. We've already sold like, I think, 40 or 50 tickets to the Philly show in March, which is amazing. But that means tickets are selling really quick to that, too. So March 6th, we are at the city winery back where it all started. So get your tickets to that as well. Link is in the bio of our Instagram. Go purchase them ticks, bruh. But that takes us to Rob her.

And I like this episode a lot. I hate Anne-Marie. I can't see. stand her. I don't know why she's on the show. I have no idea what casting was thinking. She brings nothing. But I did like this episode because we got to see Crystal step out of her shell a little bit, finally get amped up during a scene and speak her mind, which was nice. We saw Sutton standing her ground. And we see the one good thing here with Anna Marie acting the way she is. We have a common enemy. And we see a lot of the girls in the group getting along because Anne-Marie is

being a lunatic about this esophagus thing. It's crazy to watch her get stuck on this so, so hard. She cannot move on from it. It's so irritating. Thank God the other women stepped in to make it more entertaining. Because if it was simply about her spouting off about Sutton's esophagus over and over and over again, I'm already over it, but I'd be even more over it. Yeah, it's more about the fact that she actually had to face Sutton directly and face the entire group.

She wasn't just sitting down and nitpicking people off, which we talked about last week, which made no sense. She took two of Sutton's closest friends and started talking shit on Sutton. That just doesn't make any sense to me. And then we find out, obviously, through this whole scene, that she is going to other people over a four-hour span talking about the same thing. So not only is she doing this for the show, but it seems like her personality is just getting fixated on something that she doesn't agree with or whatever the fuck the case might be. she decides to sit down with people over the entire celebration of life and talk about Sutton's esophagus. So this week was great because she finally had to face the music for all of this dumb bullshit that she's been drumming up over the last week or two weeks or however how long we've been doing this for.

And she was met with animosity. And she should have been. She knew. I'll give her one thing. She at least went into it and didn't back down for some reason. I don't know why she didn't back down. She kind of stood pat. It was the appropriate time to back down.

because she was just flat everyone's telling you you're wrong that's the one time you don't have to like press the issue but at least she's consistent right yeah the craziness is consistent it doesn't make any sense no i usually give credit for consistency but no not for her yeah it just doesn't make any sense she's not bringing anything else to the table we've been speculating on her role pretty much the entire season and i i still don't get it but i'm ready to just completely abandon that entire conversation obviously we'll talk about it when she mixes herself into situations which it seems like she does in Barcelona as well, sorry, Bartholona. And that's, I guess, the course of action.

Oh, dude, I cannot wait for that. It's going to be awesome. But yeah, so we will talk about her when it pops up, but I'm done having the conversation about why she's even on the show, because I don't get it. And I don't feel like talking about it anymore. That's fair. But let's jump right in.

So we start out with Sutton and Kyle at Sutton's house. And we are getting ready for another homeless, not toothless event, which I didn't see coming. And man, am I excited that that is brought back because the fact that the entire group does not know how to say it. I love that. I don't know if it's a schick that they're doing. And even if it is, it works. It makes me laugh every single time.

But the longer I've heard homeless, not toothless, the more I've found that it's a really bad name for a charity and not for the obvious reasons. It's terrible for the implication as well. It's like, ah, we can't get you a house. but we're going to get you some nice jumpers. Like, I understand the premise, like, no, they give them good dental care. Sure, I get that. Like, that's great. You know, dental care can lead to a lot of issues if you don't take care of your teeth.

So, yeah, it's great. But the implication is like, we can't house you. We can give you teeth, but I can't give you a place to live. What are you nuts? I think it's really funny because last year we spent so much time talking about how they shouldn't have been fighting at a fundraiser. event and obviously everybody messing up the name was funny but we never really thought about how terrible the name is we never discussed that until kyle and sutton sit down at the beginning of

this episode and really walk through it and yeah i'm going to give them shit for not being able to remember it but once they started breaking it down it made a lot more sense to me it's a really terrible name it doesn't make any sense it's a good cause i don't even you know what i don't even know if i'm going to venture out to say it's a good cause i mean it's a it's a charity which is good But, like, overall, is it a good cause? Like, this is what Doreet's just standing on. Whatever. There's so many other things that you could probably do.

This one doesn't make a whole lot of sense for me specifically. I think it's more about the dentists than it is about the homeless. Yeah, I don't know, man, but it's a delight every time it comes up. So I'm glad that we're back at homeless, not toothless. But the whole conversation centers around Anne-Marie. And that's what the most this episode centers around. So it makes sense. But it sets the table for it.

And we have our trip to Barthalona. I'm going to say it correctly the whole time. Don't worry. And Sutton doesn't want Anna Marie to come. And that makes sense because the whole vendetta she has against the esophagus thing and trying to prove Sutton wrong for some random reason. That's what I don't get either. Like, why is she trying to sink her teeth into Sutton?

What is her obsession with Sutton? Is it because Kyle and Sutton didn't get along for like two seconds? And she's like, oh, well, I'm on the show to back Kyle up, so I'm just going to hammer this shit home over and over again. Or is she new to the show? she's trying to find a storyline and for whatever reason she has just grasped onto this and she's so far in that she's just dying on this hill it could be that i mean i think that she's definitely watched the show and it's at the i watch scenes from next week and it looks like she

definitely watches the show so i think that sutton was just the low hanging fruit so yeah you pair it up with if she came on if you know if our speculation is correct and she came on to back up kyle in her time of need she's going to go after sutton right away because sutton made a remark towards Kyle and they were having beef in the first couple of episodes. So that's what she's there for. But Kyle's done with that. Kyle has moved on. Kyle and Sutton are back to, yeah, I think Kyle's still being a little condescending

towards Sutton, but that is their friendship for better or for worse. They're all moved on. I don't know why she is stuck on this. And again, I have to give praise to Sutton because she even said it out loud. Yeah, I'm not going to go. It's not the time or place to do that during a celebration of life. I'm going to wait for homeless, not toothless. Then I can do it.

And I'm going to make sure that everybody's here. That's a much better time. But everybody knew about it. And I think my favorite aspect and maybe sort of like the underappreciated value of this with everybody together, Erica Jane's just there for the toxicity. She wants to see it. But she's not really getting involved with it because it's not her fight. She doesn't really have a dog in the fight.

I think she even gives a little bit of respect towards Sutton and says, yeah, this is you're one more. No ma'am away from getting slapped in the face. I know that. So she knows what's going on And she's just sitting back and watching And I really appreciate that Because we would see in the past When Erica would get involved

Then it just gets messy And it becomes about something else And then we kind of lose interest In what it was about originally This is between Sutton and Anna Marie And obviously Crystal gets involved Because Anna Marie was talking about her lying About having an eating disorder last week

Like you just don't do things like that And there's obviously a whole lot more That goes into it But I'm happy that this scene finally happens because this is the way to put it to bet. We're at least addressing it all together. And once we address it all together, then we can take the steps to do the fake apologies,

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from greece to the dark night so if you love movies like we do come along on our cinematic adventure listen to unschooled wherever you get your podcast and don't forget to hit the follow button well you just summed the old episode so uh let's go ahead and tie a bow on this no but the next scene we get crystal and garcel and of course they're talking about the same thing they go over the event it's a beautiful event and it was it was a nice thing it was a nice celebration of life, whether you liked Morgan Wade's song or not, the night overall went very well, and both of them give credit to Kyle there, but then they start talking about Anne-Marie, and this is exactly what you just said, the fact that Anne-Marie thought that

it would be a good idea to bring up the fact that, oh, well, maybe she has tears in her throat because did she have an eating disorder? What the fuck? Like, why would that ever come out of your mouth? And especially, you're sitting next to somebody that deals with an eating disorder constantly. the fact that she could be that insensitive, especially in this day and age, just throw it out there. Like, it's not going to be a big deal. And then retract immediately when Crystal's like, well, are you implying she hasn't eaten in a store? She's, I didn't say that. No, you literally just said that.

That's what just came out of your mouth. And Garcel points it out, why do you care? Why do you care so much about her esophagus? Why are we still talking about her esophagus? And this is when we get those cutscenes of her walking around the party for hours. hours bringing this up to the point that Sutton and Garcel left. Like, they had to stop talking to her because it's like, dude, shut up. This isn't entertaining TV.

It's not an entertaining conversation. I thought Crystal was making it up or overblowing it by saying that there was two hours of her talking about it. Like, all right, it didn't seem like it was that long. But yeah, maybe you're exacerbating a little bit to make it seem like it was a lot longer. And then we get the timestamps and it's four hours. It's not even two hours. Like, that's insane. And there's different people.

And it looked like Crystal and Garcell. were mixed in pretty much throughout the entire night. So now it at least makes a little more sense as to why Garcel went over to Sutton. We were pegging it for, oh, here goes Garcel. Like she's going to try to mix it up and stir the pot a little bit to see if she can get Sutton riled up and go after Adam Marie at this event. That's good TV, I guess. Not the time or place as we agreed.

But now I understand it was four hours of her bashing Sutton for something that has nothing to do with you. And it has no bearing on your friendship or anybody else for that matter. Sutton's thing, you're so caught up in this Sutton was lying about something, it has nothing to do with you, just butt out of it. And yeah, I get it now. Garcel went over to Sutton. She's like, yeah, she's been talking about it for four hours. Now that makes sense to me. It does make a whole lot more sense because she's probably trying to give her a heads up. If she's walking around, continuing to talk about it, hey, just a heads up, she might bring it over to you. I don't think

that Garcel was trying to get Sutton to go after Anna Marie. I think it was just a friendly heads up. but crystal brings up exactly what we did and exactly what everybody watching this probably did when this came up and it became a questionable issue according to ann marie she googled it esophageal problems small esophagus if you google it 15 different things from like very reputable sites pop up immediately it's not that hard so that's what was so funny the other night when she was clamoring on about I've read all my textbooks and this and that. Why did you do that? That seems like a really silly and inefficient way to check on medical stuff when you can just Google it.

She didn't do it. That's the thing. There's no way that she did it. So I don't even know what she's talking about. Like she pulled out her like textbooks from medical school to like peruse and try to find it. Like no, bro. Just Google it. Do what we all do.

It's not that hard. It took crystal less than five minutes to figure out that you're wrong. And that's terrifying because you are. nurse and anesthetist. I always get it wrong. That's right, right? A nurse and a nurse. I don't know what you were starting off with, but that was wrong, whatever that first part was. I said nurse and nurse. Yeah, nurse at nestatist. That's what I said. But your first one was nurse and anesthetist. Oh, I think I was going to say anesthesiologist. Okay, okay, fair, fair, fair. So there you go. Regardless, it's very frustrating that this can be settled

over Google and yet here we are still talking about it but whatever we get to the next scene and it's Doreet and P-K and they're getting set up for the homeless not toothless event and it's it's a Gola apparently I thought it was how do you say that word G-A-L-A Gala Gala Gala Gala Gala now it's a Gola but golla go her first question is about oh remember that show what a what a callback but the first question is like a PTSD question she asks about the doors or whatever. And look, I'm not going to continue to question PTSD every week. If she has it, she has it. It's not our place to say. I will say she is laying it on so thick since that therapist session with her and PK where she's like, I see a difference in this. I see a difference

in that. I see no difference in how you guys are acting towards each other, how he's acting towards you. I don't see anything warmer. I don't see him checking in more because you have PTSD. That wasn't a moment where I saw when she says like what about the doors can like are they going to be locked whatever he didn't step in because he's like oh I'm going to I'm going to take care of you right now and cater to your PTSD he stepped in I think because he was irritated because she brought it up again that's the vibe I got at least I didn't get that vibe but I will say I think that what PK is doing is just the general okay we just had to go sit down with Dr. Sarah which by the way I don't Does it irk you in a weird way when it's doctor and then first name instead of like your last name?

Oh, yeah. Yeah, it makes it seem unofficial and that. Yeah, okay. All right. I wanted to make sure that I wasn't just on my like own little weird tangent about things that pissed me off. But no. So I think that what's happening is he left that therapy session and said, oh, I have to make more of an effort. It'll last a couple of weeks.

I think he was trying to make a little bit more of an effort in his own way. But yeah, I agree with you. He wasn't doing it in a caring way in the way that Dorea. conveyed that she wants to be spoken to or handled during her episodes if you will or her doubts or whatever it might be pk wasn't doing any of that he was doing it in his own way and the other side of that coin is derit is recognizing that because they just had that sit down with the doctor and is saying oh he's trying so that those are two things that are going on right now against each other and it's not going to last it'll last a couple of weeks and we'll be saying

the same thing because what there's 15 more episodes left in this season so by the time they get back from Bartholona and they sit down, P.K. will once again just be P.K. And it's just going to be the same shit over and over again. It doesn't look like they fixed anything. It's just him trying a little bit now and then it'll fade away. And let me be clear. Like, we don't root for failed marriages here by any means. I hope they figured out and that they're able to communicate better. It just, I don't see it yet. Maybe we will down the road. I don't know with more coming out about a potential separation, whatever. Hopefully they get it figured out. But from where I'm sitting. I didn't see a drastic change in how anything was handled there. But regardless,

we move on and we get Crystal and Jeff. And, you know, people are in and out of this storyline. Some people don't like it, whatever. I'm glad that she's getting more screen time. That's all I'm going to say. I'm just glad that she's on the screen more. I'm glad that this episode, we at least got this, which is, you know, getting deeper into her life and a relationship with her brother. And we also get her speaking out later, which is, you know, we need both of those aspects for a good housewife. You need to be able to bring it when somebody challenges you. We also need to connect with you with your family stuff. So while some people are saying like, oh, like stop trying to make Jeff happen or whatever, I actually appreciate it because one, I like Jeff. I think Jeff's a very

likable character. And two, I think it's important that we get more in depth with her family stuff in order for her to be able to blossom into a great housewife. I think that's an important aspect of it. Yeah, no, I would definitely agree. I think that when it comes to Crystal, and the reason why people are pissed off about it is because they don't really like Crystal, but the reason you don't like Crystal is because she doesn't get enough screen time to begin with. So it's sort of a catch 22. Like, do you want to like Crystal or do you not want to like Crystal? And if it's the former, then you need to have these scenes. Like if you want everybody to perform well, we need to have these scenes. But I do agree, we need more from Crystal with the rest of the women. We need her

mixing it up when it gets crazy. We need her to face some of these aggressive situations head on, if you will, insert herself in the conversations, which she's starting to do, so we're getting both at the same time. So as long as that is consistent, I'm okay with it. But I do understand people not wanting to see the family things all the time if you're not mixing it up with the rest of it because it's like, what do I care? Like, what have you done? How is this going to make me feel better about it better about you in a situation a little

bit later when you're budding heads with somebody else who's been bringing it for the whole season? Like I want to see that person win because they've been showing me something. So yeah, I want to see more from. Crystal, we talk about it all the time, whatever the case may be, whether it's editing or not, who knows. But yeah, the thing is we, you and I talked about it with Jeff, we want more from Jeff because it seems like Jeff has a very interesting life.

It's obviously what he's willing to show on camera. But now it looks like he's going to go live in Bangkok for six months out of the year. So I don't think we're going to get more from Jeff. Yeah, no, it doesn't seem like it. But, you know, this is an interesting scene. And it's nice to see that, you know, Jeff went to go see his ex-fiance and he's able to able to voice some things to Crystal that messed him up, especially with his relationship with Vivi, because Crystal and Crystal's mom and Jeff's mom, I guess, are very protective of Jeff. They're

not comfortable with another woman stepping into his life because they've been the only women in his life up until now. And Jeff, at least at this point, is like, look, you guys did a great job. Like, you helped raise me. I'm in a good space right now, but you've got to let me live. And like, yeah, you do. He's a grown man. He's a grown man with a successful. singing career. He's got life overseas. He wants to go live his life. And I feel like this has just been holding him back. And he's probably afraid to say it. So I'm glad he was able to say it. I'm even more glad that Crystal was able to receive it and say like, yeah, he's right. Like we need to step off a little bit. So hopefully that's all squash. They seem like they're in a good place,

which is nice. And unfortunately, we may not get more Jeff because he's going to be in Bangkok. But hey, I always like Jeff on the screen. I know that not everybody does, but I enjoy him. Yeah, I mean, it's a good foothold because maybe he can just come back in the next couple of years, assuming the Crystal gets to stay on the show for that long, we can get a little bit more from Jeff. And if he decides to pop back in, we all know who he is. And we don't have to worry about revisiting his whole backstory and all of that that goes along with it. We can just see Jeff and say, hey, it's Jeff. Nice to see Jeff.

Hey, my name's Jeff. But the next scene is one that I was waiting for because I got to see some clips of it on Instagram of like the preview of this week. And this is the first time we've seen Kyle and Mo interact in a while. And it's a forced interaction because they're stuck in a car. So there's nowhere for either of them to go. And it was so telling to me, just the body language, the awkwardness in the car. The fact that he introses with, tell me about that event. Not tell me about the life celebration of Lorraine, who I knew as well.

Then we get a clip of, this broke my heart. Lorraine's mom is crying in Kyle's arms like, is Mo coming? She's like, no, he's out of town. Like, dude, that's how you look, by the way. And you know you look bad because the first thing you say is none of the other guys went, right? None of the other guys had a relationship with the rain like you and Kyle did. That's not the same thing. You don't get a pass because the dudes weren't there.

Yeah, exactly. And all I'm going to say about this is their marriage is dead, dude. That was fucking awful. It was brutal. There is no way that they can come back. Like, you're telling me. Don't say that. You never know.

Dead. You never know. D.E.D. Okay. All right. Whatever. No, it's done. Dude, it's absolutely done.

There's no chance in hell. Mo came back from, where the fuck was he? Mexico City. Comes back from Mexico City. He took a plane for, he was up in Aspen. So that doesn't sound like business. It sounds like you have an house up in, Mexico City back. Yeah.

And then you took your friend's plane down to Mexico City. Still doesn't really sound like business. But okay, whatever. And then you come back and now you're having the conversation. about how that event went that doesn't make any sense to me you're sitting in a car on the way to another event and you're like how was that event no dude like he's a shit husband at this point and look i don't know what's going on behind the scenes but i can call it for what i'm looking at right there we've seen kyle kyle's very emotional about everything doesn't seem like mo's emotional

about any of this he's fixated on work and he's running around doing out whatever the fuck he wants to do sitting in the back of this car and look i'm not excusing kyle's behavior we still need some questions answered obviously all the things that go along with that but in this instance if you're going to do something like that like you're just a dickhead like mo is mo's an asshole and that's exactly what he looked like and that's why i feel like the marriage is dead i think that kyle should just move on yeah and like that's the thing you can separate the two right like obviously kyle has a lot to answer for like you said but when it comes to kyle and mo i'm team kyle because i i'm seeing it And, like, I saw a clip and it like broke my heart.

It was from seasons prior when they're sitting with Portia and they're talking about work. And Mo's like, look, it's like four or five more years. I got to grind this out. And then we can kind of take a deep breath and have more family time and this and that. Fast forward four or five years. And the agency is his sole baby right now. It's all he cares about. It's all he wants to do.

He's all over the world building this billion dollar real estate agency, which, yeah, it's cool. Like, I'm not taking away from the fact that you're building this massive. massive, super lucrative business, but at the same time, your family is suffering and we are watching it happen in real time. And the more we see it, the more that's coming out, the more that they're talking about these clips of the past of talking about work, the more clear it's becoming, he just chose his job over his family. That's what I'm getting from this. And Kyle's fed up. It's starting to make sense. I'm starting to get pieces put together. And the way that she reacts to, you know, the fact that he had just gotten back from Mexico City. And then

she's dropping in there like, oh, well, I'm going to Spain. You do this to me all the time. You just drop it on a whim. I'm like, okay, so we're starting to get to the route. Whether other stuff happened, you know, cheating allegations, all of that stuff, we obviously know that that's out there. But as far as something tangible that I can actually see, I'm like, okay, one of the major issues is his lack of presence.

He's not present. He's not present with the family. When he is home, he's not caring about the family. He's more concerned about work and what his next business trip is and where he's going next. And that's a big problem. That's a massive problem, especially. As your kids are getting older, you know, they're leaving the house. Porta's got, what, three years left in the house and she's gone?

So you clearly picked your path here. You chose the agency. And that's why Kyle's done. She's fed up and rightfully so. You picked business over her. You picked business over the kids. Whether you want to say it or not, that it is what it is. And now it's making a lot more sense to me.

So when it comes to them, again, firmly team Kyle. I think Mo's an asshole. And it's a bummer because I always liked Mo. And I always thought that their dynamic was really great. I guess, you know, you can't take everything for face value. Yeah, but no, I agree. Yeah, Mo was great for a long time, but again, we don't know what happens by and closed doors. We don't know who to necessarily blame, but we're presented with what we're presented with.

And this is our opinion on that. But that takes us to homeless and not toothless or homeless, not, there's not homeless and not toothless. It's homeless, not toothless. We're at the actual event. And this is where I'm calling bullshit again, because Dorit has. to make a point to go in a confessional and say, you know, I couldn't have done it without PK. It's like, you don't have to sell us your bullshit. Let's watch it. Let's watch it happen. Let's see you guys come together. We got 15 more episodes at least, if not 30, and six

reunion episodes. Show us. Stop telling us. That's my issue with Doreet this season that she's telling us everything. But you have to remember those confessionals, they don't take place right away. So I think we've got a couple more weeks of her stoking the flame that is their marriage. and saying that PK has come around and we're going to keep doing this and doing this and doing this I don't care look we saw him do the bare minimum he's a husband he came in there it doesn't seem like his work schedules that crazy he travels a lot but when he's there it doesn't look like he's working that hard so he's he's having a stella during a therapist meeting so he's probably not working that hard he's going into this doing the absolute bare minimum honestly he sounds like a

control freak and he steps up to stay steps up to like talk about the flower arrangements and the silverware and like all this other shit and he steps in to say i know that derit's not going to say this so i'm going to say it and derrick gives him praise for that in a weird way she doesn't say i was going to say that she says i would be mortified to say that so it's like all right what do you actually want this is your event not pk's but whatever so if she wants to keep going down the ride of delulu land let her go i i don't care anymore doesn't matter to me my biggest sticking point for derit walking on stage they presented her as a fashion designer what what what is she what is she designing well what what is she

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The fundraiser chair. She's a chairperson for the charity. Just say that. That's enough. No, you have to, you got to be. Jush it up, baby, it's Beverly Hills. They're at the Beverly Hilton, sir. Okay, this is the Beverly.

Real housewife, real housewife of Beverly Hills, Doreet. There you go. Real housewives of Beverly Hilton. But I do have to pull one out for Dr. Renan because my guy, he shot his shot with Erica Jane. He fell flat in his face. She wasn't into it, but he did take a shot there. I don't know if she even registered it.

I did, because he was like, you look, You just, you look beautiful tonight. Is there like a doctor patient? Is there a doctor patient confidentiality for dentists? I don't know. Because that like, is that immoral for a doctor? Yeah. I don't think it's immoral to date your dentist.

I'm not really sure. I don't know how like crossing those lines. I don't know. I assume that he would just text her every morning. He's like, you brushing them teeth. Yeah, you flossin. Oh. That's dirty talk for dentists.

Yeah. Are you using a water pick right now? but he tried and she was like up well see you at the office and like walks away i was like oh nice try man you gave it a shot i appreciate that but then we get another scene with kyle and moe taking pictures and just the way that she she's so fed up with his antics he's standing there while marcellus and anna maria are taking their pictures and he's making little jokes and she's like dude can you like relax you can tell she's irritated by it she asks him What's in that, is that weed or is that alcohol?

He's like, oh, it's alcohol. And clearly she's just, she's done. And then you see them stand next to each other to take pictures. They don't even make physical contact. They're just standing side by side, like slightly back and forth from one another. Nobody's touching each other. They take maybe five photos. And Mo's like, all right, takes him by yourself and he stands off to the side.

Everything is pointing to disaster. And yet we don't have answers. And I think it takes us back to that thing. I don't think Kyle is going to. bring this kind of carnage on her family. I don't think she's going to ruin Mo's business. I don't think she's going to fuck up her kids by talking about it. I don't know if we're ever going to get answers here.

And I think that it's actually a credit to Kyle for taking it to the grave. She could do herself a lot of favors, especially considering all of the Morgan Wade shit, she could do a lot of favors if she started talking more, and she doesn't. And at a certain point, I don't get irritated by it anymore. Then I'm now thinking like, oh, maybe she's that right or die. Maybe she's just a vault and she doesn't want to fuck with her family. And that I can appreciate, honestly. I don't know.

I'm like firmly in the other camp now just because we saw Moe up in Aspen dumping champagne bottles and other girls. And look, we gave Kyle a lot of shit for what she was doing with Morgan Wade. We still don't really know what the hell's going on there. I'm starting to feel like maybe they are actually just good friends and she just did a big fuck you with that music video. I think they might be honestly. to be fair but based on most thing based on that's how i feel but you can't tell me how i feel but no the whole mo thing is just if this is what kyle's intention was and i agree with you you don't want to bring that kind of carnage to your family but at the same time you're on a reality

tv show so we're going to be able to see a lot of things and mo isn't filming a whole lot this year but every scene that mo is in we have the same type of comments he's very distant he's giving her one word answers it doesn't seem very romantic it doesn't seem like he's really into it anymore and then obviously in the tabloids he's doing all this other shit Kyle doesn't really have to do anything honestly like we are I'm starting to circle back and I'm like you know what that sucks for Kyle that's a real shame Mo's out there doing this like yeah she did the music video with Morgan Wade but you know we don't really know what to think about that I know exactly what to think about Mo dumping champagne on chicks and Aspen in their fucking bikinis I know

exactly what to think about that pretty cut boy in the air yeah Yeah, like he is immediately a fuck boy, and that's what he's doing. So she doesn't really need to do much more. She can just let this play out. And obviously we saw in the beginning of the season with the trailer that eventually they do have a sit down with the rest of their family, and we're going to get to that probably in the last two episodes, I would imagine, if not the last overall. We'll get to it eventually. I don't, I agree with you.

I don't think she's going to show a whole lot, but I don't think she needs to show a whole lot because public perception right now is the mo's an asshole. So she can come out of the smelling like roses and looking a lot better, as long as she keeps her, side of the street clean yeah that's a fair point but then we get to sutton at the party and we're talking about MPs and MEs um which you know I'm not going to get further into there but uh yeah that's that's how this conversation is broached but the sole point being don't fuck with me in my esophagus which I thought was a great line like Sutton's Sutton's got some teeth this season and I love to see it and rightfully so like this whole thing has gone on long enough I don't care that

we're a toothless and homeless. Let's let's squash this shit right now. So she calls Anne-Marie over. And Anne-Marie does like a little hustle over to the table, brings Marcellus over. I hated that. I was like, I hated that. I did too. There's no reason for him to be at that table. I don't know if she was trying to like put a buffer between her and the ladies and be like, all right, you're going to stand here. And then she sends him to the bar. He's like, don't, don't tell me to go to the bar. Tell me to leave. It's like, oh, wait a minute. But anyway we finally get into it with these two and i will say as she's walking up someone says like don't be afraid and suddenly no one's afraid of her or did crystal say that somebody said

nobody's afraid of anne marie which is oh that but that is actually worth noting then that crystal said it so already she's there to play and i like that so she walks over and something's like we're talking right now and you pick the wrong person to fuck with and mary starts talking over and sounds like excuse me ma'am excuse me ma'am excuse me ma'am And when you drop a hard ma'am in the South, okay, them's fighting words. If you get a hard man, something's about to go down because you fucked with the wrong ma'am. And Sutton is that wrong ma'am tonight, and she goes in.

But here's what's annoying, because the point she's making are so blatantly obvious to any normal human being with a brain, this is my body. I have a doctor. I have talked to my doctor. you are not my doctor by the way you are not a doctor and then we find out that anne marie told crystal initially that she was a doctor only to later say i'm a nurse anesthetist nobody is taking away from the profession of being a nurse anesthetist okay it's very impressive it's it's awesome you have a great job you worked your ass off to get it good for you you lied

about it you said you were an anesthesiologist that is different. People are calling you out for that. Crystal jumps in and calls you out and says you lied about that. She's like, no, I didn't. This is why Anna Marie pisses me off. We have seen her say things. We have heard her say things. And when she gets called out, her first move is I didn't say that and then gaslights everybody else to the point where as everyone's going at it and Crystal starts going in on her to get her to admit to her lying, she says that Crystal lied. And then she says that Crystal's the one that called out Sutton's eating disorder. And I paused. the fucking show. I paused and looked at Dev and said, are you fucking kidding me? Like, that

is so wrong on so many levels. I couldn't believe my ears. I was like, not only were you the one to say it, you are now accusing somebody that's been very outspoken about her eating disorder, about outing somebody else's eating disorder. That is ridiculous. Do your homework, Anna Marie. Like, watch the tape. Check game film. You need to come into this ship prepared. That is outrageous. and every argument you have after that is now null and void and the fact that you are so stuck on Sutton lying to you when she didn't you said you can't drink on this drug Sutton said I talked to my doctor she said it's cool that's enough for you you don't need to know anymore you're not her doctor you also said she's not a doctor she's not a doctor he's not a doctor

it doesn't matter at all and she comes into it so heavily and obviously for all of the reasons that you just pointed out involving crystal is insane if i had a notebook i would have thrown my notebook all right i'll give you that because even i was being vocal in my apartment by myself drinking a bubbly all right that's what i was doing i almost spit my bubbly out but bubbly's delicious and i would never spit it out shout out bubbly anyway uh but no like that was it was insane it was the most gaslighting that i've seen on this show since rina it was insane it made no sense it's saying a lot for her to rope crystal into this because she can sense that crystal's getting pissed off to and crystal's kind of spearheading this sutton is just trying to explain when the fuck did I lie like what

am I lying about and Annabary I think that this is what she thinks she brings to the table she thinks that she's a fucking doctor at the end of the day that's what she thinks she thinks she's a doctor and she's here to check everybody on all the medical things you know who's a real doctor is Dr. Nicole out of Miami do we ever see her check in on medical things? No, unless Adriana hurts her foot, then she takes a look at it. And she goes, you know what? This isn't my area of expertise. I don't know what the fuck I'm doing.

You'll be okay. Just don't put any weight on it. Everybody knows that. She, this is Adam Marie. She's like, I went to medical school. Now you're jealous of me because I went to medical school and you told me that you wanted to go to medical school, Crystal. So now you're just jealous of me. No one's jealous of you.

Let's be honest. Nobody is jealous of you. Nobody even knows who you are. Nobody even knows why you're on the show. why would they be jealous of you nobody's afraid of you so don't come over here and start raising up a storm about absolutely nothing that has anything to do with you and try to like do anything but apologize just say you know what yeah maybe i was talking about it too much but no we know she's not going to do that because she talked about it for four hours last week so why would she stop now that's my point

that i tried to make in the beginning is at least it's consistent it's fucking insane and it makes no sense at all but it's consistent so at least she can go to her own grave and do that, I guess, to an extent. But I don't get it. And I fully agree. And maybe people will point this out and they won't agree. Crystal yelling at her and saying that she's such a bitch. She is a bitch.

That was a huge bitch. Yeah, it was so weird. And she's like, she's so stuck on everybody else lying. And then she gets backed into a corner. It's like, you've been lying. You're walking around the party talking about Sutton behind her back to everybody. And you say you weren't. We watched.

You are on camera. Okay. Maybe you're new. We can give you a pass. for the first episode or two, do you not notice the man with the giant camera or the boom mic near you? Like, I don't get it. We're going to see it.

And we've been seeing it. So for you to say that everybody else is lying except for you, look in the mirror. Because, no, that is simply not the case. And she breaks it down at the end. And this drove me crazy. This was the last straw because she's like, you're downplaying my profession. No, she's not. She's pointing out that you said you were a doctor.

and you're not you're a nurse there's nothing wrong with that it's amazing good for you again worked your ass off to get it crystal of all people's not going to downplay your profession she is pretty up and up on like political correctness and not denigrating anybody all right we've seen that time and time again i don't think that's her angle we've never seen that from her not going to see it now she's not downplaying your profession you're pissed off because you got caught in multiple eyes everybody at the table does not like you and now you're going to throw out things to try to gaslight everybody that you're downplaying my profession i'm trained to be a critical thinker what the fuck does that mean you're trained to be a critical thinker stop thinking about other people shit

they told you what's up that should be enough get out of other people's lives it's just this is the last we're going to talk about it really because like this is the end of anne marie in this episode for the most part but like it was nauseating nauseating to watch her try to like finagle her way through this and just hit a roadblock at every single stop. And instead of just being like, all right, you got me, I'm sorry for talking shit about you and your body and about a potential eating disorder because all of those things are really fucked up. And especially to do it behind your back.

Yeah, doing it behind your back is the biggest issue. That is by far the biggest issue here. Like, we will never find out why you have such an issue with Sutton Small or Narrow Asophagus, whatever you want to call it. We'll never understand the actual material and the content as to why you're doing this. But you're still talking about it behind her back. And she goes on and we can kind of lump it all together because it is all the same thing when it comes to Amory. Even later, sitting at the table, she says, no, I wasn't talking behind your back.

Okay, yes, you were. You're still lying. Like now her sticking point is that Sutton said, what, three lies in the first five minutes, according to Amory? Now you're lying over and over and over again about the same thing. it doesn't make any sense it's insane and even the apology that we get forced out of it because kyle wants to go into barcelona i'm sorry barthelona with a little bit of good grace she forces this apology and she tries to do that bullshit about my part in it is what i'm apologizing for luckily sutton has teeth this year sudden goes right back at her what do you mean

your part what are you talking about and then she finally apologizes again it's a bullshit apology it's a bullshit apology it doesn't fucking matter Sutton is look she's been on the show for a couple years now she understands how this works you got an apology out of her

it means that you're probably not going to talk about it anymore and yeah you might be friends at some point who the fuck cares it doesn't seem like a person that you want to be friends with you might be friendly but at least we can move the fuck on

and everybody's gonna stop talking about Sutton's esophagus so I think we're good I think we're done with it I don't care about it anymore bet me it comes up in Barcelona bet me there's no way we're done. But I will say another credit to Sutton in this episode. I like that she's

pointing out the inconsistencies with Mo. You can show up to toothless homeless, but she can't show up to Lorraine's celebration of life. That's fucking weird. You know, like, I like that she's able to call him out on his shit. And, you know, that has been a sticking point for this year. She's trying to dig further into that relationship. But the more I'm seeing it, I don't think it's doing it to Kyle's face anymore. She, like, that's when she was getting into trouble is when she was doing it to Kyle. And then Kyle would lash out and freak out. Now at least she's just go to the confessionals and talking about it. But she's still, we know Sutton, we know Sutton in that moment is thinking that.

And she's able to recollect herself when the confessional pops off and say, yeah, this is exactly what I was thinking. And I wanted to say it to Kyle, but I'm not going to, obviously. Yep. And again, you know, we kind of summed up the whole Annemory thing and like the FaceTime's at the end where she apologizes the Sutton. So we don't have to get back into that. I do think it's interesting when the Spain talk comes up at the homeless and toothless event,

Sutton is trying to smooth it over as best she can. She's okay with a half-assed apology at this point. We've seen this on Housewives multiple times. You get to a certain point where you're just like, you know what, I'm going to take whatever you give me. Let's smooth this over. We're going on a trip. Let's fake this for now and it'll probably kick back up overseas,

but at least we can go into it without yelling at each other. And as Kyle points out, getting kicked off of an airplane. Let's aim for that. That might be a good goal. Sutton goes into hopefully get an apology. Anna Marie's response, I'm not going to allow you to continue this narrative. This is not a narrative. This is what's happening.

You're just blind to it. And we're not going to get back into it, but it's not a narrative. This is you. This is who you are. And you are, without a doubt, my least favorite new housewife I have seen since our tenure in the bravoverse. She's terrible. She brings nothing to the screen. She's not entertaining.

She's not funny. She's a liar, like a blatant liar. And it's hard to go into Beverly Hills and be the biggest gaslighter I've ever seen. You're dealing with Rina. You're dealing with Diana Jenkins and her short tenure. You're dealing with a lot of people that make their entire persona on these shows about gaslighting. And you have taken the cake because you're presented with obvious evidence to the contrary. And yet you stand firm.

It's wild. It's wild behavior. Yeah, it doesn't make any sense to me. but hopefully she won't last too long. Get her out of here after one season. One and done. We shall see, but we get the 24 hours later thing,

and that gives us a little bit of the, what to look forward to in Bartholona, and it looks like we get more of Adam Marie's nonsense because she tries to drop a haymaker to Crystal and we'll save this for, you know, next week, obviously. Guess what? It doesn't land. Shocking, I know.

But I can tell you right now, she's going to flop again on the girl's trip because she's... She doesn't have any friends. Like, you don't have allies in this. Kyle's not going to back you. We've seen Kyle stand pat after you try to go after Sutton multiple times. Kyle's not helping.

That's your only friend on this entire show, aside from when your husband was there. And it seems like your husband didn't even want to be there. So I don't know what you're doing. Like you can't go after people, especially on a girl's trip, unless you recruit some allies. She has no allies. Nobody's going to help her out. And look, maybe people won't help out Sutton because they feel some way about Sutton. I don't know.

But I think that, or I'm sorry, Crystal, when they're in Barthalona, I think that Crystal could probably hold her own. And I think that she has enough allies on her side with Garcel, with Sutton. And as long as she clears her name, I think everything will be fine. But they'll finally see Anna Marie for who she is and whatever fucking drama she's trying to stir up inorganically, which is our least favorite thing. I am not looking forward to that. But hopefully the reckoning comes quick.

We shall see. I'll see you in Bartholona, pal. But that takes us to the question. So let's jump in. we start out with k beck 13 can anne marie redeem herself come on no yeah no no absolutely not there's there's no redeemable from k and w is it me or beverly hills and miami seems so boring sLC was great every episode um i don't know i think yeah sLC was great every episode and it was a captivating season i think beverly hills has been good this year it hasn't been great

agree. But it's been good. And I feel like it's moving along nicely. We're not getting dragged down by dumb shit. Obviously, except for the esophagus thing, which we're still really not understanding. But otherwise, it seems like the other storylines are moving along pretty well. So I have no issues of that. Miami is kind of dragging on for me, though. Yeah, Miami's slowing down a little bit. Beverly Hills, I think, is a solid season. I said this about Salt Lake when we got to the finale and part one and two of the reunion. You can't expect. this out of every season. I know that they set the bar really high and they needed to. Let's not forget about last year's travesty of a season. They had a big hill to climb and they did it successfully. I think it's unfair to put that kind of pressure on every single franchise. I think Beverly Hills is doing a good job. I think Miami is getting stuck and we're going to get to that in our next episode. But overall, like, I've enjoyed Miami for the most part. I've definitely

enjoyed Beverly Hills you just can't expect to have a banger like Salt Lake every season that's why this that's why we're still talking about Salt Lake like we are is because it was that good so that will happen you know that's what we root for every season but you can't expect it to land every season yeah that's a good point uh I've got a really good question here from coach Vallata do you think Kyle told Mo not to go to the memorial because she invited Morgan instead no you don't think so I do think that she may be invited. Are we ever going to see Morgan and Mo in the same scene?

Probably not, right? I want to see that dynamic. I don't know. That's an interesting point. I'm not sure. That's my thought. My thought process is this. Morgan was performing at the celebration of life already.

So that must have been locked in a couple of weeks beforehand. Is that why Mo didn't want to go to the memorial? Perhaps. But that's a different question. I changed the question. They said, well, to your question, I don't know, because that's different. That's Mo making a decision not to go because she's there versus Kyle not inviting him. I mean, look, there's merit to it for sure.

Is that what happened? I don't know. I don't think so. I think that in that scenario, I'm trying to picture a scenario in which one of Dev's closest friends passes away and I'm not there. I just I can't like I I it doesn't compute for me so I don't know I think that even if Morgan's there like you got a grin and bear it and fucking show up pal unless you don't care and all signs are pointing to the latter but whatever oh this is a perfect one to end it on unless you find another another banger but florals for spring ground uh your username's a little too long to read the whole thing it goes to dot dot dot but florals for spring says Anna Marie or Diana Jenkins. Diana Jenkins. No, I'm going out of Marie

just because she's background noise at this point. We know exactly what she's doing and we don't care. With Diana Jenkins, we had false hope for her and that came crashing down. That was a much, much worse situation.

That's a really good point. I retract my answer. I'm on your team now. Good call. Okay, thanks. Thanks for joining that. But you're welcome. Do you got anything else?

No. Go Sixers. go sixers yeah as cycle continues yep here we are again we're philly sports fans and we will drink from the cup every time feed me that cool aid daddy but uh another reminder to get those tickets for next thursday night green room 42 in new york city we're so excited to hang out with you guys i'm after we went to pillows and beer i've been like i'm jones and dude i'm so ready to get back on stage i haven't been this excited for something in a while so i'm pretty pumped i don't know about you and i'm this guy's pretty pumped oh we got a lot going on next week so you know there's a lot of

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