Bros & Shows - Stop Saying Sophisticated (The Valley Full Recap)

Episode Date: April 5, 2024

What's up Bros?! We are back in The Valley and this show is shockingly better than we thought it would be. In this episode, we get the aftermath of last weeks girls night. After Doute felt backed into a corner she lets it slip that Janet said Michelle was a republican... according to Zach. Zach denies it despite footage later confirming that he did in fact hear at least the republican part, but his story does not seem to add up throughout the episode. Jesse and Michelle meet with a life coach and they are clearly not doing well. To sum it all up, Jesse is arguably worse than Jax. He doesn't acknowledge his shortcomings and we are left with an uncomfortable Michelle who clearly does not have a partner in their marriage. A 'sophisticated dinner' takes place at one of Jesse's listings and things really escalate. Doute is called out at the table by a fed up Janet and she again says she heard everything from Zach. Regardless of where she heard it, Doute is going to have a lot to answer to given her own past and being kicked off of VPR for racism. A lot of questions remain as this episode ends and this season is really starting to heat up. Time Stamps: Intro (0-4:32) The Valley (4:33) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Well, we are here to talk about the Valley, which, wow, what an episode once again, this show. I, and I saw a lot of people saying it. I think a lot of us misjudged it because I was dreading it. I know you were dreading it. I'm not sure you're making a face right now. We might not be on the same page here. But I'm enjoying it. I think that they're delivering in a lot of ways that a lot of the other shows are not.

I didn't realize I was making a face. No, I think we need to calm down. It's not delivering. it's just everybody I think now has realized that you need to watch this under the guise of it's not going to be great but there are very funny moments or very like unsurious moments or whatever it's just raw it's raw entertainment it is just yeah it's very serious it's been very serious but we don't like know anybody and

you know what I mean like we're not really invested in anybody nobody on this show is like oh I really love them they're awesome I'm not there yeah that well I take that I love Nia and fell in love that quickly. They're so sweet together. Sure. Like, she's going away. I don't really care about them.

Bro. They're so, like, she's going away. He takes the kids without saying a word. He doesn't get a nanny. They, like, smooched at the door. If people went after them, if Jax goes after them, yeah, I'd be upset about that because they're nice people. But, like, other than that, I mean emotionally, you're not emotionally invested in any

of them. Yeah, that's three episodes in. And look, we've had Doty before. We've had Jax before. I'm not emotionally invested in either of them. I won't be because, well, the thing with them is you're starting to see a lot. lot of what got them in trouble coming out right now. Sometimes you bring it up yourself.

We'll get to that, which is like, dude, like, what are you thinking? Like this whole episode, I'm like, what are you doing? That's the other thing is this whole episode is really just the last 10 minutes. It was. It was very choppy the first thing. Yeah, it's all over the place. There's a lot of different things going on and it's okay. And like, yeah, we can get into like Jesse and Michelle's marriage and what the hell's

going on there, which I'm always really uncomfortable with because I don't think we should be seeing that but whatever um really everything else was like whatever and then the last 10 minutes like okay this is good that's why i'm saying it's not okay it's not delivering it's just it's giving us some moments and it's giving us stuff to talk about which is more than i anticipated and it's also not a hate watch which is even better than i anticipated okay i can i i'll meet you halfway there i see what you're saying and i'm definitely not emotionally invested yet i just might be well i'm maybe it's because I was taken aback, because I thought I was going to hate it. I thought we were going to hate watch

this whole season, and I was pleasantly surprised. So now I'm trying to gather my thoughts about it, I guess, but I think the point I was trying to make is, across the board on socials, we were all talking shit about this show before it aired. Yeah. It's like, under the guys...

Now it's like, even actually before the second episode aired, we saw a trailer and a lot of the pages that were ripping it, us included, were saying, all right, like, am I really about to excited to watch this. And last episode was, again, it's fine. It's, you know, it's not bad. It's not incredible, but

it's pretty good. So why don't we just get into the valley, and we start out, and this is what I mean. And I don't know if it's lack of content. I don't know, but the beginning of this episode was so weird, because they were just jumping back and forth. It's Jackson, Brittany, talking. You get like a foggy scene

of what happened the night before. Then it jumps back. I hated that. I thought that was really dumb. And, yeah, we're used to, especially in shows like this, actually really all shows across Bravo. The way they start each episode is we're going to do about 30 seconds here and we're going to jump to somebody else to another 30 seconds and then we're

going to have a full scene. So we're used to that aspect but starting off with Jackson Brittany walking around, getting some lemonade and recapping the night before instead of just showing us because they did a whole to be continued thing. Yeah. When you do to be continued, I fully anticipate watching that scene. Me too.

Continue it. Yes. Don't show me Jackson and Brittany talking about it in their own way, spinning their own little narrative because they clearly talked about all of this before and then giving me little snippets. That doesn't make any sense to me because I want to see Zach blow up. I want to see Doty drop that bomb. I want to see Michelle's reaction. I want to see everybody's reaction. Instead, we just get like a couple of second long clips from what happened the night before. So I don't really, the only thing I can think of is maybe it wasn't that great and it kind of, it was long

and drawn out and they couldn't edit it all together. So they just kind of did this. That's still not a great excuse. No, I know. It's not. I don't know why I'm trying to find an excuse for it. It's just dumb. It got to the point where I almost went back to the last episode. I was like, did I miss like 10 minutes? That's what happened. Apparently with the VPR, they aired another 15 minutes on the peacock. Yeah. We're getting punished now for watching things live. Which is ridiculous. We're trying to drive them numbies up and we're getting penalized. Yeah. This was, I watched this on peacock though. Penalized. I like that. Instead of, oh, that's how you pronounce it. It's not penalized. It's just sounds cleaner. It

does. A penalized sounds gross, but that is the correct vernacular. My point is we start out with a very jumpy scene, but we get the recap, which we've all seen leading up to this, so we all know what's about to happen. And that's Doty says that Janet had said that Michelle is a Republican and probably a racist. And that's what Zach said.

So it's this whole, like, down the line telephone tag. A whisper down the lane, yeah. Exactly. So we don't really know what happened, and we didn't get to see that whole entire scene play out. So now we're playing the same game. We're like, well, who said what? who said what to who do I believe doughty but as soon as she brought this up all i could think of in

my head was like dude you got fired for being racist and now you're going to bring up somebody else being racist what do you think we're going to focus on now this is the easiest easiest thing to clap back at because you have a past yes so why would you bring this up like what was her endgame do you think that she literally just got so in the moment that she was just like yeah well she expanded on it. Like, you didn't even have to do that. And again, we didn't get to see the scene for whatever weird reason. But all Brittany said was, are you not stirring shit up too? And then just kind of lays it out there and says, you know, with Janet, at least from what I understand, that's how it went. And Doty, like, for whatever reason, gave her specifics. Yeah. You could

have just kept your mouth shut. You didn't have to say anything. You could say, I think Zach knows more about that and put the pressure on Zach. I think someone else knows more about that. Put the pressure on them. Like, stay out of it. If you're Kristen Doty, you stay the fuck away from this. with a 10-foot pole. And yeah, I understand you're like, well, why am I getting crucified? I'm not the one who said it, but you're the one who brought light to it. Yes. You're the one who brought it up.

And whether or not you were speaking to Kristen behind closed doors or what she says is they were talking like off camera before the season started shooting and that's when it all happened, whatever you're trying to do is absolutely the wrong move. And she keeps coming back to this. Do you think that I would want to relive what happened with me when I got kicked off EPR? It's like, you're the one who's trying to do. that you're putting yourself back in that crosshair and it's really dumb it's really dumb but at the same time it's almost like it's necessary because this was probably the biggest underlying thing of

doughty being back on tv yeah people wanted answers for this and they wanted her to talk about it and now it's forcing the issue what might be a counterpoint to that or something they're not planning for is this could take her down again again right so on one end like yeah it's important to talk about You can't brush things under the rug, and people want answers to this. So now we're going to talk about it. But I'm curious what route they're going to take with it. Like, are we really going to get into what happened with Kristen? Is she going to have a chance to try to talk her way out of it?

Are other people going to get to comment on it on TV? Are they going to try to steer this away to avoid that conversation, which I would imagine would be the wrong idea? I think you need to address it now that it's out there. You have to address it now that it's out there. But if you're Kristen, again, you want to stay away from this. And if you anticipate that you're going to have to talk about this at some point and you're going to have to address it because people want answers to that, then do it under your own power.

At least you have control over what you're going to say and when you're going to say it. Bringing this up now, whether it was Janet or Zach or whoever that brought it back to Michelle, you shouldn't be involved in any of this because it does immediately reflect back on you. And it forces you to talk about your past for those answers that we're all still waiting on. I don't think she's going to talk about it right now, though. I think she's going to freak out. I think she's going to maybe cry, leave, you know, just, he keeps saying our house, it's not your house.

You're just listening it. Not your house, bro. She's probably going to leave. She's probably going to break down and cry. I don't think she's going to actually address it. It might be a confessional because at least then she can be composed and she's sitting by herself, so it's a little less pressure. Something along those lines I could see, but I don't see her doing it in this group discussion right now because as we already saw, she opens her mouth and whether or not she's apologizing doesn't matter because everybody's just going after her. And that's not a good environment to address those things.

Yeah, not that there is a good environment. there's never a good environment to address that. Yeah. The better environment would have been not doing anything in the first place. Right. Don't do stupid shit. Don't do racist stuff. And then you won't have to answer for it. But if I had to guess, I would imagine that Jax is going to be the one to bring this up again. And that'll be a forced conversation on TV because that's who Jax Taylor is. I don't know. If Jax is going to do it in this next episode. Yeah, no. I mean, at some point. He's quiet.

I think he's just so, like, baffled at the whole thing. And also everyone else is jumping in. So he's, for once, kind of sitting on the sidelines. See, he's doing watch parties at Jacks's every week. Yeah, I can't wait. He gets a fucking microphone so that he can comment on the show. Let's talk about that. Why is anybody going? Because he's there.

It's like theatrical. Sure. And maybe it's like kind of funny. Like you and I, if we were out in L.A., maybe we would go because it's funny. But, like, I don't want to sit there and talk to Jacks. I also can't watch the show if Jackson is going to comment on everything. I also think it's an incredibly, incredibly stupid move. to out the network about another show on the network when you are finally back on TV to sit

there and go, it's all scripted, this whole show's scripted. There's no way Bravo is going to see that and be like, good call, dude. We're so glad you're back. But let's keep trucking. We get to Jesse and Michelle after this whole thing went down, and they're trying to figure out where it came from, what the story is. So they just called Janet. And Janet says, no, I never said any of those things.

and I actually set boundaries with Doty because of the whole Alex scenario. Because when they broke up, she started singing a very different tune. And her story had changed, I guess. So we're not getting the whole Alex backstory. Granted, the dude looks, you know, like a troll under the bridge about to ask you to answer a riddle if he can cross? Correct. That's a very good way to put it. But at the same time, we have not gotten the other side of the story.

We're basing this all off of what Doty's saying. So there's a lot of question marks there. She takes this step further and says, Doty had alluded to something at the end of the relationship, like she did something dumb. She was the one at fault that led to them breaking up. Now, again, when you leave this door open, when you have a past, people are going to question that, especially when you put them in the crosshairs for no fucking reason other than you got backed into a corner and just had word vomit.

But regardless, we get to Doty and Luke and they're in their new apartment and why do they have to reference sex every time they're on the screen for the first time in an episode? I don't like it. She's like, we've got a whole drawer of sex toys. It's like, cool. Congratulations. Keep it to yourself. Yeah, I don't care.

Make sure we've got a little bit more room here to play. Yeah, I don't need to hear that. I don't need to hear it. Good for you guys. You know what I mean? Great, good for you. No king shaming here, but we just don't hear about it. But they're going over the night and recapping everything.

And this is where we find out that in pre-production, I guess Zach had said something to Doty. And we even get a clip of him with the cameras off. There's like one hidden camera there, which I also think is sketched. Actually, like there's just one camera and a tree pointed at this chair. There should be one hidden camera everywhere. I agree. Yeah. I agree.

But it's all so weird if this is pre-production and they're like, all right, we got this camera's here. Do we got the secret cameras up? And we get this little clip of him where he says, and it's not that convincing to me. It's just you're not wrong. Right. He says, you're not wrong. And then it cuts off very fast. It's not like you're not wrong.

It felt to me like it was more there and we didn't get the full answer. I don't know if there was more, I feel like he was kind of done, but this is the same night. Like, they were at Michelle's. They were wearing the same clothing sitting on a chair outside of her house. I think this was after the fight, honestly. We need timelines. They didn't show that. And that's part of the problem is they're trying to be a little ambiguous with it.

But I will say, Luke has a very good tip for Doty at the end of this scene. He says, when you get these little nuggets, stick them in your back pocket, just leave them there. Stop weaponizing everything because this is what happens. And this is her M.O from VPR day one until now. And that's where people are going to call into question, have you really changed? And when you bring up the major thing from your past, why you got fired from BPR, they're going to call into question all of your behaviors. While she's still doing this, she's still doing that.

Now we need an answer for this. Right. So now we're really going to dig into it. Dody even said this was discussed at length before we even started filming the show. And she brought it back up when they started filming. So you're just outing yourself for holding on to things and putting it into the show. But we got a quick cut to, this is the scene I was talking about. Nia and Danny and they're in the house and he's exhausted and she's going away for the night and he's just

so nice and she's so nice. And they work well together and it's just a beautiful thing to see. That's why I love those two. So I am emotionally attached to them. I'm emotionally invested in those two. I think that's really great. Does that do anything for the show? No. Because like what, there's nothing more to talk about from that scene. It's just like, oh, wow, they're really cute. That's nice. I need that. of the disaster everybody else is on this show. I need it in the sense

that pretty much what I brought up earlier if somebody were to go after Nia or Danny and not in the way of pantsing him at a pole party but actually being mean to them

we would defend them because we like them. Yes. That's really all I need for. I love them. Other than that, I don't need to talk about it.

I do. It makes me happy. Okay. I like seeing a dad step up. This is Bravo. There's nothing to be happy about. Let's get tumultuous. But we get to Jackson's

and we, find out, probably the least surprising thing I've heard about his bar, he doesn't own any of it. I, I'm not surprised that he's not invested in it, but I am surprised that he just openly told us that he doesn't own any of it. I am too, but I think that he's trying to spin it like, I got over on these guys. I didn't have to pay a dime and I got my own bar. No, not at all. I really do think that he watched Tom and Tom do that. And not, I don't believe the, their marriages and relationships fell apart as soon as they opened a bar. I don't believe any of that.

That's not coming from Jacks doesn't make any sense because I don't think he gives a shit. I think he saw that they were sinking tons of money into Schwartz and Sandys later and never were able to open it and don't know what the fuck they're doing. And Jacks is probably even more inept than the two of them combined. So let me just take a step back because I don't want to just lose everything. Wait, you're saying he made a smart business decision? I think somebody advised him to make a smart business decision. One of the partners probably did. I think he didn't have the money to do it.

But when did, so this is, and again, timelines, was Jacks's announced? It's like right at the end of COVID, I thought. Okay. That's what I thought. This is why we need timelines and flowchance. Yeah, I know. I'm not sure, though, because he's still, it was announced at that point, but he's still interviewing people.

So that's a long time. That's three years. Yeah, but if you add in the fact that if I'm correct, if I'm right, and it was post-COVID, Then you have to equate in, like, the COVID time. So the stall from that would push it for a while. For whatever reason, it's like in my head that he announced it when we were still wearing masks and stuff. Okay. I don't know why. I could be wrong.

In my head, I was thinking, and I had nothing to base this off of, I was thinking he decided to do this after he saw Schwartz and Sandy's fail. That could also be true. And he's like, you know what? I could do it better. Perhaps. A better location and then invested zero money into it and had three other guys do all the work. But they get the name. it seems like a jack's move to me i want the business breakdown i want the i know a business plan

to see how this is involved i was actually surprised no probably he's probably so done with opening bars with bravo talent that he was like fuck he's probably moved to like a remote location in alaska just away from everybody i think he's spending that much time with tom and tom will do that too yeah he's now living as a fisherman he's he actually joined the deadliest catch he's on the new season they'll be sketch uh so check out gregg on that free plug shout out gregg um but we do get to see jacks in his hiring process and i think it's a a massive red flag for the three actual owners sitting there that your namesake is basing his decisions off of what they look like like he's the one girl walks in he's like she's not wearing a bra it's like you shouldn't say that

if she's going to be your employee yep the next girl walks and he's like oh she's got the look this and that and if he wasn't jacks i could see what he was saying where it's like yeah you know she's had it up. There was a second, I could tell like the way that she carried herself.

Like, yeah, she's not going to put up with any bullshit at the bar. That's cool. But the first girl walking in him

immediately commenting in his confessional, oh, I saw that she wasn't wearing a bra. Okay. And you could see his face light up

when she walked in. You could see his face light up in the second one walked in. He's also actively looking up at this like ceiling to like, I can't check him out.

It's like, just be professional. He's not professional. He's not professional. That's what we saw in the flashback, of course. but yeah no and then talking about it in the confessionally it's just it's gross and he's obviously

to no one's surprise a douchebag yeah shocker yeah shocker shocker but we got a scene with brittany and doughty and doty goes over the whole thing again you know i didn't mean to snap i felt like i was backed into a corner but zach said all of these things and brittney says well did this actually happen to this extent or did it get exaggerated and so they just call Zach to try to figure it out. And he does cop to the Republican thing and says, I did say the Republican thing, but I did not say anything about racist. But this is where I get a little bit wary of the whole thing. I think we're never going to have the full answer unless we have a full scene of what they actually discussed. Because once we have another secret camera when they're

discussing this? Yeah. That'd be cool. We should because the way that Zach's talking about it, he's like, I'm not saying nothing happened. But I told you this behind. behind the scenes. We get another confession. I don't know if it was right then or later where he's like, this is why I can't tell her anything. I told her to keep a secret and this is what she does. She goes and tells everybody. And now in my brain, I'm like, well, if you're trying to keep this secret locked down tight and now you're copping to, you did say the Republican thing after denying everything the night before, now you're copying to one thing. Could you have insinuated something? Is there more here? Like, I need to know more. I need to know, like, how is

Jasmine involved? Because her name keeps getting thrown around and every time that they throw her name around, she freaks the fuck out. She was part of the line of... Jane, right? Yeah. Okay, so Zach, so the first person was Janet. Janet, Jasmine, Zach, Doty. Doty.

Okay, so that checks out. So that is the full whisper down the lane. I mean, the way that I could see that going, I think there is something to say for what Zach said. If you're a Republican in L.A., that's immediately a death sentence for social, whatever sort of social structure you're in. and I believe that because that's probably how L.A. works.

I think that probably what happened was somebody started with, oh, my God, can you believe that Michelle's a Republican? I learned the way that she's going to vote on this law, and then it gets to another person, and then it's like, oh, wow, she's a Republican. What else is she doing? L.O., whatever. I'm talking about texting now.

That's why I said LOL. I don't say that out loud. Let me put that on the record. And then it gets to the point, like, it just evolves to this aspect of, what else is she hiding from us? Like, is she a closet racist too? And then it just blows out of proportion. And Kristen caught the tail end of that.

And I think that they're trying to nip it in the bud and trying to keep it there because they don't want, obviously. Like, you call somebody a racist. Like you have to fucking answer for it. And it'll stick with them forever, like they say. It sticks with the person that you're calling a racist. And maybe, I don't know if they're trying to protect themselves or they're trying to protect Michelle.

I think it's a little bit of both. But they know what happens, Doty, when you call somebody a racist. You get labeled it as that for the rest of your life. And I think that's what they're trying. to salvage at this point and Doty's like this is great TV. I'm going to bring this up and does not think about her past at all. So you think they're all scrambling to be

and Janet is more composed than Zach is. Zach, we've seen him cop to some of it. Five different things. He's yelling on the phone. He starts off on the phone fine, answers cool even though they just got into a fight the night before. Now he's yelling on the phone. We've seen him yell a couple different times. He's in his confessional saying something else.

So he's all over the place. I think what we're seeing and we already kind of peg Janet for being smart, intellectual. I think she's like, all right, we need to nip this shit in the bud and we're going to stop and not let Doty continue to talk about this and we're going to go after her because she's the one who spilled the beans. But we're going to sit here and do this and Zach is sort of like the loose cannon at this point and he doesn't know what to do and now it's all spilling out. See, that's why I think and like when he made that Republican comment in this confessional, that's exactly where my brain went. See, I could, or not see, I could see how that conversation would ramp up like you just laid out like, oh yeah, she's a Republican and other people going like, oh, you know what that means. And then it's slowly cracking unsavory jokes in there

And then somebody lets out the R word Then all of a sudden it's a fucking nightmare Right and now they're going back and forth About random shit that may or may not be true But that's where this whole thing And you know We're going to tread lightly with it I'm not placing accusation

But you're under the impression that Doty thought this was like Oh this is great TV I'm going to drive this one home Oh so it was actually She admitted that she was saving it for the cameras So it was a miscalculated calculation Yes

Interesting I like that I don't like that. No, yeah, no. You like my theory. I like your theory on it. Yeah, yeah. No, no, no.

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Yes, even there. Moving on from there, we get Jesse and Michelle, and they're in couples therapy. Or, sorry, couples coach. Couples coaching. Couples coaching. What the fuck is with life coaches? L.A.

If you're from L.A. and you're listening, please tell us what the hell's going on with life coaches. Just get therapists. Wait, you think that the guy says, oh, no, I'm a coach. I thought that was Jesse saying, no, he's our coach. He's a life coach. Oh, then I didn't see the little name thing. Oh, he's a thousand percent life coach.

A. Life coach. It came in and popped up. Okay, my bad. My bad. What the fuck, if you're from L.A., please tell us, do you guys not use therapists? They do. You use life coaches? We've seen. No. Kyle had a life coach. Yep. But she called him a therapist in her confessional. They all do that. They all say that he's a life therapist.

coach and he's a friend and he you know he's basically my therapist maybe it's a softer way of saying therapist their title is life coach it is not a therapist in any way maybe a transse oh i don't know why you're trying to make excuses for no no i'm not i'm trying to now figure out what the difference could be maybe life coach means that like therapist is reserved for when you go see the therapist okay so you have a one hour time slot whatever once a week maybe a life coach transcends that. It's not making faces. This is a good theory.

The life coach, you can contact at any point. So they're constantly there in your life. Which is there to be like, read a couple more books a day. Maybe be positive to people. Put out the energy that you want to receive back. Oh, you're belittling life coaches now. Yes, absolutely I'm belittling life coaches. Life coaches walk in and they're like, be a little more positive.

Maybe if you just put the vibes out there, everything's going to be good. Hey, have you read this book? That's a life coach. A therapist is like, let's dig into your fucking trauma. He did that. No, why he did a better job than Kyle. Well, Kyle's life coach, I think, was like one of her good friends. So that's a little different.

Well, he's like the LA life coach, apparently, or the Hollywood life coach. What happened with this guy is Jesse and Michelle's friends had a rough marriage as well, and they took him from them because their marriage is getting better. And they're like, oh, you helped their marriage, maybe you can help our marriage. Have you tried couples therapy? Okay. Let's get this life coach from our friend. I thought he was a couple's therapist. No. Back in Atlanta, we saw one of the couples get into an actual therapist, and I didn't like that we had cameras in there. And I said, you know what? I don't trust any therapist that's going to allow cameras in the room while we're going through something. And a lot of people are like, yeah, that makes a lot of sense. We have therapists commenting on that saying, yeah, that makes a lot of sense. That's really bad. We had therapists. So now we just have life coaches.

It's a good point, actually. We did have therapists message us and say that they've watched Bravo for a very long time, and they can tell that a much. majority of these therapists are not reputable, which I thought was very interesting. Yeah, it was, um, God, Ralph. Ralph. Yeah, Dev from the,

from the top row. Yeah, it was Ralph and Drew's therapist. And that guy's been on other shows too. And people have said he's kind of a, he's a dick, and he was siding with Ralph. Yeah. And there was cameras in there. Like, it's a therapy session. There shouldn't be cameras there. But anyway, I

I just don't understand it. And you've got a life coach coming in here, just trying to walk you through this. But he's basically being a therapist. He's a therapist. Okay. Now that we've talked about life coaches. He's a therapist the same way that you're a therapist at like a workout where people were just spilling the beans about their entire life and you just give them like one word

answer. I do not give them one word answer. I am not belittling you working them out. I do not give them one word answers. We have conversations if they're going through something. Are you training their minds too? Sure. Minds body and soul? Yeah. Absolutely. Don't you belittle my profession? You have no license to do that. Absolutely not. But they spill their shit. And I've heard enough that and I've also

also being through enough that I have, you know, I can comment on some things. You are being a curmudgeon right now. This weather's really getting to you, pal. But now that we've... No, I had a really good comeback, and I'm not going to use it. You'd get so upset. What is it? You comment on a lot of things.

I'll take that. I'll wear that badge today. That's fair. But now that we've bitched about life coaches for 10 minutes, let's talk about what they talked about. Life coaches are going to be so mad at me. Yeah, I hope we have. have some life if you are a life coach mad who gives a shit i'm on your team life coaches let's shoot her know but what they're discussing and they're talking about their current state of their marriage

which we have seen two episodes two and a half i guess at this point watching this and you can see the cracks in it like left and right you know but what i'm seeing is a wife that's had enough that is constantly in charge of taking care of their kid that's not getting any help on the side and a husband that does not give a fuck and the way that he tries to discuss how their marriage should work he's like well what if i do this for two months i'm still not getting anything back it's like no no no you make the change to better the whole situation there's no timeline to it and you're not trying to get something back if you put it out there it will be received and hopefully given back in return if you guys aren't too far gone but instead you have him and this is why

i thought he was calling the guy a coach and it makes more sense what you're saying but i thought he was saying this guy's more of a life coach because he looks at this like a competition or he's like I need to do better just so I can get what I want. Yeah. It's not let me do better so we can have a better marriage. And they start talking about sex and their sex life and everything. And again, he's like, you know, she hasn't even looked at me and we have had sex in three years, eight months and three days, like some sort of like super specific number. But why would you think that she's going to want to bang you if you're not even helping take care of the kid? Like you are drinking champagne at noon. Well, did you see he went on like a five day fast where he wasn't drinking? Yeah, and I got my

first compliment. What was that important? When he said that, it was 12 pounds in five days because I fasted and stopped drinking and I lost 12 pounds and you finally gave me a compliment. What? Yeah, what are he talking about? Also, the thing is like, I could tell that Michelle was a little uncomfortable too. Absolutely. This is the whole thing. And this is, this is what I do go back to with not really wanting to see this. Like, I think that this is information that should be kept private within a couple. This was a thousand percent in my mind anyway And I have no proof of this This was Jesse's idea

Let's get the life coach over here We'll get the cameras He wanted some vindication He wants some vindication He wants to prove that he's right He wants people to see That she's a monster And she doesn't want to have sex with me

But we've already seen that you're a dick Yes We've seen you not take care of your kids We've seen so many bad traits from you And we don't see a lot for Michelle Because Michelle's not really speaking up a lot And she does not want to be here She's uncomfortable

She doesn't want to talk about it Life Coach asks Which a life coach probably shouldn't ask, when was the last time you guys were intimate? When was the last time you looked at him and you thought that he was attractive? Like, where is that from? And she doesn't want to answer. She's uncomfortable. She said three times she does

not want to answer. You're not a therapist. She doesn't have to fucking answer you anyway. I think he is. He's not. Shut up about this. He's a fucking life coach. He's not a therapist. Hold on. Time out. Before you get mad at me, I'm not trying to, I'm saying, is he a licensed therapist? That's my actual question. I understand that. If he was a therapist, they would have to put therapist.

Or his name would be Dr. Stephen, whatever. I'm not, yeah, I'm not trying to gaslight you. He's not, like, I'm actually curious. No, he's definitely not. Okay, Jesus Christ. Relax. But you could, like, with Michelle, it's just, she does not want to answer and she doesn't want to be there and she doesn't want the cameras there.

And, like, the camera's on that moment, a vulnerable moment in her life where she's trying to figure things out with her husband. And her husband's just using it very clearly to vindicate himself. Yeah. Every answer that he comes up with, he answers for her half the time. And it's just so tough to watch. And I don't really want to watch that because we shouldn't really be able to have access to that. No, and watching it transpire, I mean, you see where their pitfalls are and just the way that he responds to questions where they talk about sexual attraction.

He goes, what's sex again? It's like, dude, you're just, now you're just, she's clearly uncomfortable, as you said. Let's not knock her down again. Like, you're the fucking problem, buddy. It's quite clear. Yeah. So before we move on to the next scene, the last thing that he said that really just grinded my gear. I haven't been my gear ground in a while.

This one grinded my gear where he's like, if I'd been more of a passive husband and father and everything and pretty much had I put in the effort, would it have made a difference? Yes, absa fucking lootly. If you'd given her support and helped out with the kid and not been drinking champagne at 12 o'clock in the afternoon every day, you would probably see some return in affection.

Yeah. But whatever. He's a lost cause. But we move on from there. We get Jason and Janet and they're setting up the nursery and everything. and Kristen posted a cryptic story, which again, again, why? You put this out there.

You did this. Don't add fuel to the fire because now you're definitely going to have to answer for it. And you should have to. She should have to answer for what's going on. She's the one that brought it up. But they're trying to decipher what this thing means. And even Janet says it, like,

you threw all of us under the bus. You started this fucking fire. And now you're going to be an asshole on social media. That doesn't make a whole lot of sense. but we get the story from Janet's perspective. So this is one person removed from our down the lines who are a little bit closer to the truth. Is she, wait, was it Janet first?

I believe it was Janet first. Janet Jasmine, Zach Doty. Yes. Okay, so Janet is the closest to what actually happened. I guess Michelle said, don't say that gay laws protect children, something along those lines pointing to that she was leaning right, that she was a Republican, that she didn't agree with gay laws, and all of those different things.

But Janet says we talked about a bill. We just led to the conclusion that gay laws and not being or being opposed to those laws meant that she was a Republican, which could infer racist. Again, somewhat cryptic. We don't really know. I'm under the guys now 100% of what you said, where one thing was said and it was probably not meant to be deep. And people were saying stupid shit about Republicans back and forth. doot do do do something went too far they tried to squash it somebody found out and now it's going to this makes the most sense to me that makes the most sense again we're not speculating we don't

know that's that we are speculating that's a plausible theory yeah there we go but i'm not saying yeah we're theorizing but we finally get to this uh this hills party or we're getting to the lead up to the capri party and capri's son capri son and michelle and jessie are talking about this party and this shows you once again where his head's at in this marriage he's like we just need to enjoy ourselves tonight she's like yeah it's our part or he says we need to enjoy ourselves it's my party and she goes well it's our party and he's like well not really because like i love capri like way more than you love capri and is it capri because he calls it capri i think he kept calling capri let's just call it capri because he's probably talking like a douchebag is that like he's trying

to be sophisticated is that croissant is that yeah that's yeah that's exactly okay so this idiot's being quote unquote sophisticated and his whole M.O. is that. He just wants to give off this air of like, I'm high society. I'm sophisticated. I live behind the Chateau Marmont and he definitely says it like that. Why do you think he's having a party at a listing that he has that's not selling right now? Because he wants to show it on TV. He wants to be able to afford that. Like when he started talking about going to Capri and he's like, we go every year, it's my favorite place to go, five-star restaurants, Michelin-star restaurants,

we're going to go over all the best hotels, and of course I want to be there because all the billionaires park their yachts there, and I can sell them houses. That's not why you want to be there. Like, it would be a nice by-product if you could sell them houses. You want to rub shoulders with them because you wish that you were them. Yep, we can tell because you talk about your fucking house.

It's behind the chateau. You talk about this listing that you have. You act like it's your house during the party. You say you come into our house. that's not your house. It might be listed under your agency right now, but if Mauricio gets his hands on that, he's going to rip it away from you.

And he'll sell it. And he's going to put it on Netflix, and he'll sell it. And he'll probably do a lot of other things. But, you know, that's a Mauricio thing. This is just a quintessential douchebag. Yes. Who wishes that he was rich and famous and all this.

And he's trying so goddamn hard. And it's one thing to be like a huge tryhard. And we can call it out right away. And, you know, we'll give you some time. But it's another thing to be a tryhard and an absolute asshole. And that's what he is. That's just, it's, look, it's TV. It's kind of fun to root for his downfall, at least.

You know, I don't want marriages to fall apart, but it's, for his personal downfall, I will root for that. Yeah, and I don't want marriages to fall apart. I either. We never root for that here, but what we do root for is Michelle to be in a better environment with support, and that doesn't seem to be happening in this marriage, and it doesn't seem like that's even on his radar.

He doesn't seem to give a shit. He doesn't care. I think he's looking for a way out at this point. That's the vibe I get because he wants to be. That's a possible. I said that last week, too. Yeah, he wants to be single guy, like real estate, Mo. He's probably, you know what he's doing? He's watching Mo, like Maricio.

He's watching his climb in the agency. He wants to be Mo. That's what I think. That's the vibe I'm getting. But we get to the Capri party, Capri, my bad. And it's at this $18.5 million house in the hills, this gorgeous spot. And everyone is just on eggshells because everybody knows what needs to be brought up. this conversation has to happen.

And they're like, is Doty going to come in here and have this conversation? Or is she going to tread water and kind of walk around it? Or is she going to get into it? To her credit. Credit where credits do. When she walks in, she says her lows, she goes immediately up to Michelle and says, do you want to do this now? Michelle says in a minute.

So I think later when people are like, oh, you're bringing it up now, blah, blah, blah. It's like she did try to bring it up initially. Not only did she try, but it looked like everybody saw her try. And of course, they're going to notice when Kristen shows up because she's the main focal. point for what's going on right now. So you guys all watched her walk over and say something to Michelle and have a longer conversation, not just a, hey, thanks so much and like points to the house or whatever like that.

It seems like they're doing it. You can tell by body language. So even if you can't hear the content, you know what's going on. So to bring it up later and say, oh, of course you're going to bring it up now. No, she tried to bring it up earlier. And Michelle didn't, again, want to talk about it, which seems to be a recurring theme. And I wonder if that is who she is, or I wonder if that's where she's, where she is. If that's fine. Maybe that's where she is in life right now. I don't know. I'm curious to see.

Probably also doesn't know what to do because it doesn't seem like she's ever been called racist before. And how do you act around those? Well, let's not forget. And I think this is a pretty important point. She is a first generation, half Persian, half Mexican. Yeah. So to label her as a racist, it's even more insulting because now you're implying that she's racist and she is a minority. So there's a lot of different layers to this whole thing. And I would imagine when Doty walks up to her in the house, like think about all the shit she's juggling right now we just watch the life coach and her husband try to figure things out he's not doing anything to help and now she has to address that one of her quote unquote friends who's coming to her party has called her a racist to everybody else in the room yeah like that's a lot to fucking deal with super embarrassing and nobody knows how to handle that no so i think that her being like i don't want to talk is it's kind of understandable but we get to the dinner scene and this is where they are claiming like oh look at dody just like laugh and having a good time and look dody needs to answer for everything she needs to come up with an answer here that will be sufficient enough to address it but at the same time i will say she did try initially she tried to talk to michel so i don't want to falter there but

i just wrote down it's convoy time because janet she's had it we need to address this shit now and janet just speaks out she goes i'm just disgusted by this whole thing i'm disgusted that you would imply that i said this that zach said it that anybody said this it's such a serious implication. Why would you do this? Zach said it. Immediately. throws him out of the bus. I don't know what to think when it comes to Zach. I really, truly don't because then we go to another confessional with Zach

and it's still fucking confusing because he's still jumping around. Now he said three or four or five different things, but he's got the helmet hair too, which is always confusing. He's got his helmet on, so he's his thinking cap. Every time it goes over. Yeah, there we go. Okay. It's his thinking cap. Not a lot of thinking going on there. Yeah, he's got

his thinking cap on and Jasmine steps in because she keeps getting thrown into the mix and she's saying I have not had this conversation and that's where we get the Janet Jasmine, Zach loop down the line whole thing receipts timeline proof yeah there you go

and Jasmine says what the conversation was from her knowledge what she heard was that Jasmine should be cautious because Michelle is a Republican implying racism and homophobia and or

homophobia my bad the collective group and this is the most important thing to note I think everybody at that table says we know Michelle she is not homophobic she is not racist

this is ridiculous so the best thing the best thing that Doty could do here is figure out a way to say look this thing got blown out of proportion no you are not you are not any of those things she hasn't said that yet

she hasn't said I know you're not all she said is I know what it's like to be called that, and I wouldn't want that for anybody. You need to flat out say, like, hey, maybe this was lost in translation. It was down the line. And because other people are saying that, this whole thing could have been lost in translation. People are okay to acknowledge that part.

Just say you misheard. Say something. Stop implying that this could actually be true or that Zach is the one that said it. Zach's not going to cop to it. He may have said it. We don't know. He is not going to cop to it. Unless he has a confessional in five episodes, maybe he will.

If you keep putting the camera on him, I have a feeling he'll start to say shit. Yeah, he'll definitely start talking. But for now, at the very least, like, point this away from Michelle because nobody buys that she's any of these things. But Doty apologized to the table and just says, look, I got cornered. And in this moment, I appreciate what Jesse's attempting to do because he's trying to stick up for Michelle. But I also think that that's not true. I think that he's trying to do this because it looks bad on him because he brings up. What does he say? It's fucking crazy to me. My family name, our business. No, dude, your wife is being dragged for being a potential racist. Fuck your business. Fuck your family name. It is your wife we're talking about here. You self-centered douche nozzle. And when Michelle does try to start talking, bro, he stops her.

He puts his hand up in her face and says, please, I was blown away. I was like, I know this guy's a fucking asshole, but like, I can't imagine. If I was at that fucking table, I don't even know what I would do. I would be so shocked. Zach has a reaction. and everyone else is, like, awkwardly silent, like, Jesus Christ, did he just literally shut her up with a hand motion? Like, that's nuts.

We're not in 1950 anymore, guy. Like, what are we doing here? But Jesse's like, just call it a lie, call it a lie. And then Luke jumps in and it gets escalated. And look, I like that Luke can stand in his own two feet. He needs to simmer down a little bit. He gets too amped up. You said it last week.

Credit where credits do. You said it last week. He gets too amped up too quickly. I think he's learning, though, hopefully. He's learning. Here's the thing is that I hope Luke's doing. And look, I love that he's. standing up for his girlfriend at the very least.

Sure. And you can't talk to another woman that way. You can't talk to your wife that way. First off, Jesse. You can't talk to someone else that way. Stop telling people to stop women to shut the fuck up. Yeah, stop telling women to shut the fuck up. Don't go after her.

And I like the Luke did step in to at least defend her. And I appreciate that. I don't care to what level he takes it. It doesn't really matter. The fact that he did it is great in general. But he has to, in the back of his mind, be thinking, like, all right, when we go home, I'm going to talk to Kristen and be like, stop fucking doing this. Because, and look, the first part when he started getting pissed off at Jesse because she pinched his nipple at the party, that's completely different.

This is like, all right, Kristen, like, you did kind of bury yourself here. So we need this maybe be a little more careful moving forward. Yep. But standing up and doing this was very funny because he did escalate it. And Jesse wasn't expecting it. He even offered him to go outside. Luke did. Which is fucking sick.

I told you. I told you he was here for it. We need a good... When's the last time we had a good fight? Well, I think that Bravo really tries to steer away from violence. Sure. There's legal implications, like... I know, but like, you know...

A little scuffle amongst the boys, like, sure. Fine. What I... Would I argue? No. More than I just want to see Jesse get humble. I need Jesse to get bitch slapped. Yeah. I need Luke to not even close fist. Just slap him like the bitch he is.

Yeah, please, because he deserves it. This dude, he's slamming the fucking table. He's escalating a... a point where you can be emphatic. You can be, quote, unquote, in defense of your wife. It's no longer about your wife. No. Because now you're embarrassing your wife.

You put your hand up in her face. This is about you now. You feel emasculated because Luke stood up. That's all that happens. So now you're trying to be tough. You slam the table. Shit gets fucking crazy. He slams the table to over, overcorrect for stopping his wife.

Yes. And say, Michelle is talking now. What happened when Michelle was talking a couple minutes ago, bro? Your hand was in her face. Yeah. It's tough to watch, dude. that's where we get the confessional about being a Republican in L.A. is like a death sentence where you have to be a Republican on the DL. And this one specifically keeps sticking out to me because it's

like, why do you feel the need to clarify that? Like we get the implication. We know what you're trying to say. Now that makes me believe that there's more to the story, that you were involved more because now you have a comment on what being a Republican means. You're not saying it means racist. You're not saying it means homophobic. You're implying it means something bad in L.A. So now I'm starting to think, all right, what was that conversation actually? How much do you actually? That's where I got the theory that it just escalated

to the point that they were making those maybe they're making jokes or remarks or whatever and they wanted to keep it in house is that Zach started there because that's where it starts. Yes. You find out she's a Republican, then you start talking about what else is she into? What else is going on? And then it gets to a much higher, higher level.

And you try to keep it in house and you can't. Zach is letting on. And I do fully agree. If we keep a camera in his face for the next five weeks, eventually he's going to tell us what happened. Because he's not going to be able to handle it. You just get him talking, especially in a confessional. Let him just keep talking and talking and talking. You'll get something out of them for sure. And

that is when my suspicions arose. That's when I knew. Look, does Kristen need to bring it up? No. Especially given her past fuck no. You don't bring it up in general because you don't want to say that someone else is a racist, especially if you have nothing to go off of. Right. You weren't even there,

Kristen. You heard it from another person. She's holding on information to bring it into the show to make the show a little bit better. She's doing the same thing Jacks is. The two VPR alums are coming over here trying to produce the shell. That's all they're doing. Look, they learned from LVP. They did, and they're trying to play the game, but they're being clunky, and it makes no sense. Kristen should not be involved in this at all, given her past.

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It finally drops. Jesse says You were thrown off your show For being an actual racist And it was silent Yeah, leave it to the biggest prick on the show To actually be the most logical Right, he pulls it out

And you were expecting it and here it is And she goes, what did you just call me? It's like, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, that's not the correct response Because you are the one that made people talk about Michelle being a racist on TV You have been in this spotlight before and then for you to, after this, say, I understand what it's like

because I was canceled for it. Then why the fuck would you do it to somebody else? And I know what you're saying. It's for TV. No, no, no, no. There is a very, very slight chance that Kristen saw an opportunity to push the narrative on somebody else. Not necessarily, maybe just like,

be the voice of reason for this and be like, oh, if Michelle, this is going to come up, Maybe I'll start it so that her and I can talk about this together because I've already been canceled for being a racist. Oh, God, I hope that's not that we can talk about it. I know, I know, but that's, that is where my brain goes. And look, it's probably not true, but it's a very, very small chance that it's a possibility. That would be ludicrous. I'm not saying you're completely wrong, but that would be an insane notion that that would go well.

Yeah. Ooh. He loves company. I hope that's not what happened. God, I hope that's not what happened. But we end it with Doty in a confessional talking about how she learned from her past mistakes. We get the headlines flashing overhead. And, you know, she was fired because she claimed that Faith, who worked at Vanderpump or worked at Sir, sorry, and she was on VPR,

claim that she stole her jacket with not a lot of info to go on. And then, you know, we get that one clip or that one headline that says she understands unconscious bias and that she's learning and all of these different things. it is very difficult to believe that you have changed when you keep repeating past behaviors that got you in trouble to begin with. And if you are going to go this route, which you already have and now you need to address it, you better have a real answer.

It cannot be, woe is me, I don't want to get canceled again. You brought this on yourself. You opened up this can of worms that you really haven't, you know, she's answered in interviews and little things here and there. The whole crutch of getting you back on TV was getting over this whole thing. That's why you weren't on Vanderpump.

That's why people weren't touching you until what happened. Scandival. And then they got that video of her going to talk to Ariana after everything happened. That was big news. People were able to look past her past a little bit. Now you're at the point where no,

you're on TV again. If you don't have a correct response to this, this could be the end of your stint on TV. It could be one and done, which nobody thought that was going to happen. You opened it up. So how are you going to? respond to it and will that response be enough that's my big question mark because i don't know i don't

know i don't know i don't know i look again i think she's going to do it in a confessional i think she's going to do it in a safe space where she can control how the conversation goes there's no way that she does it in front of everybody else the way that everything's been going but i think that for it to land correctly if it is possible to land this bird correctly you need to do it in front of other people probably have to take the accountability of allowing them to question you I also think the reason why Jacks and Brittany were so quiet during all of this is because they are pulling the strings. And they're like, look at them go. Look at them go.

We already know that Jackson and Brittany had the discussion before Jacks went out for Boys' Night and Brittany went over to Michelle's for Girls' Night. Yeah. They had the discussion of Alex is coming out. We'll see how that goes. And you're going to tell Kristen towards the end of that, Alex is coming out. Right, right. So we're going to drop that. We're going to get Kristen all riled up.

Brittany probably told Jacks what was going on. Brittany brought up the you're stirring pot too, knowing that Kristen was going to cop to it, and then it's going to throw everybody into a tizzy. So now they're just watching their handywork. Now they're just sitting back and watching their handiwork. Interesting. That's actually valid. That is 100% what they're doing.

Because you could see on Jack's's face. I was waiting for him to get involved because this seems like something that Jacks would get involved in. Why is Jacks not speaking up at all? He didn't say a word that entire party. Neither did Brittany. They're just sitting there and watching it. And his facial expressions, he was surprised.

He even cracked a smile a couple different times. Like, he is enjoying what he's watching. And it's his show at the end of the day. Unfortunately, it is. But I have no clue what to expect next episode. I don't know what route they're going now because this has taken center stage and rightfully so. So I don't know what's going to happen. I don't know what the first scene next week looks like.

Are they still at this dinner? I'm like, are we, apparently not. I can't wait for a couple more days to find out what the ratings are looking like. The first one was incredible, like, broke of records. Yeah, it was like the biggest premiere ever. The second one dipped for sure, but this one will jump again. It'll probably, yeah, it'll probably jump again. I don't know, man.

We'll see. I'll see a play out. But I'm sure we got plenty of questions. Let's dive in our resident question master, because my iPad is still under lock and key at the Philadelphia airport. First question from Sarah B, 184. Would you rather have a kid with Jesse or Sandoval? Oh, God.

Uh, uh, uh, neither. I can't add, I don't know. Yeah, no, neither. I'm not going to pick one because I hate them both. No. Probably Sandoval, because at least, I feel like he could be, you know, he probably wouldn't respect me. No, he should be like shit. But he might be a good dad to the kid.

We see less aggression out of Sandoval, I guess. I don't know. that's impossible. Stop asking impossible questions. Kel Minton says, Zach's hair, what's your advice? Get a haircut. Yep.

He had a haircut. A lot of questions about Zach's hair in here. Capri-Corn G. Capri-Corn God. Capricorn God. Oh, my God. I, fuck, this is so nice for me. It's not that easy.

Capricorn God. Also talking about Zach's hair. Maybe Capri was in your head. I think probably. Capri. This isn't interesting. thought. Lurpo 19168. You didn't ask Capricorn's question. No, no, I just

said that everybody was talking about Zach's hair. Oh, my bet. It's just more about Zach's hair. Keep up. My bad. Lurpo, 1968, said, I think Janet is watching Kristen burn like Regina George. What do you think? Do you think Janet is actually pulling some strings? Yeah. They are, Zach, or Zach, Janet and Jason

are definitely the most intelligent on the show. Oh, yeah. So there's a possibility. Maybe she's pulling some strings back there. I could definitely see her being like, all right, you fucked with me so many times. you know what, I'm going to burn you to the ground. Yeah, I can see that. Yeah, all right, cool.

A little crossover here from Zen Jabila. Was Nia ever, was it Nia or Nya? What did we land on that? Nia, okay. Was Nia ever Rachel slash Raquel's pageant coach? Oh, I don't know. We would have heard that unless it comes up the season. Maybe it comes up the season.

Raquel comes onto the valley. Bro, could you imagine? Like, that's the big. mid-season reveal is she's working with Nia as a pageant coach. Yeah, that would be fun. No way. This is a funny one. Look, I mean, we don't really talk about politics ever, but since this was politic-centric,

uh, Mave Kinar asks, what percentage of Bravo liberties are secret Republicans? I don't know. Probably like 40% of them. Yeah. Maybe high. Actually, I'm going to say higher. I'm going to say way higher. I have no idea.

I would imagine they, like, we don't, we don't, we don't, shame left right up down whatever what you your political stance is your political stance we don't get into that shit as far as hiding it in the bravo realm i would imagine it similar to l a yeah well you see the response from people when they find out that so-and-so donated to a certain campaign oh yeah so yeah i would imagine that if they are they're probably on the lowdown uh and we're going to do one more here from daniel in mass cover vanderpump villa on hulu Guess what? We've got three episodes coming out next week to cover Vanderpumpfilla,

so if that's what you want us to do, we're already ahead of it. Yeah, we're way ahead of you. So I guess that's definitely. We haven't recorded them, but we're way ahead of you mentally. Well, we record them all tomorrow because I'm going to Italy, but we need content for our faithful. Yep. For our bros.

We've got to keep you guys fed. Yeah, keep them baby birds fed. I'm saying baby birds. You know what that's from? What? Daniel Tasha stand up. Oh, okay. Don't worry, I'll feed you baby birds.

Yeah, that's fair. You're like, what, what? Yeah. Yeah, you get it? Yeah, it's like the seagulls. Because all of their mouths were open when he made a joke. The seagulls from Nemo. I know, yeah.

Maud. Australian. That was pretty good. They are Australian in finding it. Maud. Well, anyway, that's all I got. You got anything? No.

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