Bros & Shows - Summer House Reunion Part 1 (Full Recap)

Episode Date: May 27, 2026

What's up bros?? We're finally here, we made it! The Summer House Reunion Part 1 is finally on our TV screens and while we usually wait until the extended and uncensored version comes out on Peacock the next day; we decided it was best to get this one done while it was fresh in our brains and emotions to get it all out for you guys. Let's just say, Scamanda coming out of the gate the way she did was totally unexpected while West remaining silent was totally foreseen or rather we've seen that before at a reunion. What wild ride this is going to be for all of us and we'll be there every step of the way Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I can honestly say that Sandin Paul and Raquel did better than Amanda and West just did. I can also honestly say that was by far and away a way a way better reunion episode than Scandibald ever produced out of their three parts. That was the best reunion episode I think I've ever seen regardless of the context. Agreed. As there's a drive in a deep left field by Castellanos. Oh man, it's 8 o'clock. And so that'll make it a... I don't need the spotlight.

I shine just fine. Hi, I'm Karma. And yes, I am a bitch. Brab Bros. Good evening, everybody. And welcome to a special episode of Brab Bros. Your favorite show from the Bros. For everybody, for whoever wants to listen, I'm your co-host, Steele Russell, joined as always.

Sherlock Magoutz. What's up, dude? I thought you were going to have like a special word instead of evening because it's so late. are recording this 9.30 Eastern time because we want you guys to have it right away, which means the boys are pulling a little bit of a late night here. We have to. We need this fresh on our brains and we want to get this out immediately so that you guys can hear it and try to dissect and decompress from whatever the fuck we just watched. I cannot believe that that was their approach. That's how they came into this thing. Did they talk before?

beforehand did they say like hey what's our plan maybe we should just like shut the fuck up just sit there and not yeah i i mean it would have been better if neither of them talked now west did not talk a whole lot but no he's a i think it's i think the funny thing is they probably did talk about some sort of like scenario of how it was going to play out how they were going to respond what they needed to be prepped for the problem is that west is clearly lying to amanda too because it seems like every time we brought out new information that the other side of the couch is had on West, Amanda was just as shocked. So I have a feeling they tried to go through everything that they could. Now Amanda's approach was absolutely hard. I can't wait to talk about her

quote unquote approach. I don't know what the fuck she was trying to do. She had an awakening. Yeah, dude, a sexual or emotional or whatever shitty awakening. I don't know. Yeah. I just, I don't know what to do with Amanda right now. She is unbelievably. funny. It is unbelievably funny what she was able to squander out there. I don't know. There's a, there was a way, and it's a very, very, very narrow gap here, but there was a way that Amanda could have just sat there and cried the entire time. And some people would be like, all right, I kind of get it. Like Kyle told us to back off. Sierra probably wouldn't be still cursing her out, even though she should be. And Amanda may have been able to get through this reunion, relatively unscathed,

all things, you know, consider. But West was always going to get that smoke. I don't know what Amanda was doing. I expected Wes to shut up and he did shut up and barely said anything and stammer the whole time. Amanda came out of the gate firing. Why does she think she's in a position of power? I don't get it. I have no earthly idea. Why?

I knew we were fucked when Sierra let off with the, oh, you can say our names now, great line. And she scoffed. She goes, I was like, oh, what? Oh, boy. Are you fucking kidding me? What are you about to do? I don't know. It's delusioned in its highest form.

It's trying to downplay what actually happened, which is gross. It's sidestepping any accountability. It's trying to lean so heavy into the romance of it all. Like we're watching a fucking rom-com. It's reality TV, but it's real life. Like, what the fuck is going on? I cannot begin to even articulate, like, what I felt during that episode. the shock and awe and just the sheer audacity of that woman.

And West, of course, like that was the most consistent thing. And that's what I, like you said, totally assumed that was going to happen. I didn't think he was going to come out. I knew he's going to stammer and stutter and his way through the whole thing. But not because, like, well, it is because he's a pussy. But it's also because that's his move. He plays this fucking role. he puts on this little, like, weepy mask and he sits there and he stutters his way through sentences and tries to say the right thing and tries to turn people and get them to sympathize.

Like, oh, no. And that's what's funny. Like, as I'm watching that, I'm like, this is, are you, what are you doing? I know what you're doing. Like, this isn't fooling anybody. I just, I think that's the funniest part is that it worked. Like, the fact that Lindsay even called it out at one point, like, you almost drew me back in. This is exactly how it works.

I'm sitting there like, what the fuck is going on? Yeah. How is this working? How is this almost working? Glad she called it out. I am glad she called it out. Yeah, not only that call out, but also Andy in the middle of West kind of going through everything was like, yeah, a lot of people saw how you handled it the first time around.

Do you get a lot differently now? No, no. All right, well, let's just set some intentions. What are you guys hoping to get from all of this? We, we're just, you know, we know what we did was wrong. We lied. I'm here to apologize to Kyle and what's her face? And like, seriously, that's.

That's pretty much what happens. So I was shocked and appalled at Amanda's approach and completely unsurprised by the way the West handled everything. Yeah, 100%. I mean, we should jump in. There's a lot, a lot to dig through here. And then I was pissed when we deviated from the Amanda West stuff. Of course we were going to, yeah. But was pleasantly surprised with the slam dunk on Ben.

I was like, hell yeah, I did not see that. that's the thing that I really didn't see coming. Now, of course, a lot of people are going to kind of do the same thing where once we deviate, once we say, all right, we'll be back with Amanda and West in a little bit, but let's go to the rest of the house. Everybody collectively groans. Everybody wants all the smoke, but of course they're going to space it out. They were there when we showed up, obviously. I forget who, I think Carl was the first one there, of course, at 627 in the morning.

We know they didn't wrap until like 9.30 p.m. So that was a long-a-day for them. But we knew that they were going to kind of section it out. They're going to segment all the way through, and we're going to get probably a big finale, I would imagine, after episode three. But that being said, flipping to the rest of the house, I rolled my eyes and like, all right, I guess like we do need it breaking the action, whatever. No, not at all. This is actually more. We've revved it up and then we were going after other people.

I don't know what happened. This is incredible. I mean, look, that's the big takeaway from this season that we keep trying to reiterate. It was a great season regardless. There was a lot of things going on. There were a lot of people mixing it up. The newbies were great aside from Ben. I think he was still a bit of a flop.

But the rest of the newbies were great. Even Levi, who showed up a little bit later in this reunion episode, she actually spoke a little bit. That's the first time I've heard her speak in about 10 weeks. So that being said, I forgot how much more was here. It's not just Amanda West. Of course, that's what we want the most of. But it would be a disservice to the rest of the season,

to all the filming that they did all summer if we didn't spend a little bit of time. Now, I do think that episode two is primarily going to be Amanda West again. same with episode three, but there are a lot of other things to go over. No, I totally agree. It highlights what a good season it was, honestly. And like that, that quick little snippet about Ben, again,

totally unexpected and a great little ad in. But this, this adds to all of it because it was such a good summer. Because you're seeing these moments on stage, KJ, like that was fucking incredible what he did on. You're seeing all of these moments and the support. And the like genuine love.

affection for one another. And these two fucking assholes ruined that. They took this from us. Yes, us, the collective us. Amanda and West took this from us. And I will never forgive them. I'm so upset. Look at the fucking stage we have right now.

And I'm assuming, like, I'm assuming everyone's going to move on to the next season, minus Amanda and West. So, like, we'll still have that in the house, I hope and pray, because we were on such a great track. And then a nuclear bomb drop. Yeah, I, let's just get into it because we have so much to get into it. We'll start, of course, with Amanda and West and setting their intentions and what they expect to get out of this reunion, which is very funny because it's just a great reunion trope.

Like, what do you want to do? Usually it's bullshit. This was like, all right, let's key in right away. Let's just focus on every word that they say I was hanging on everywhere because I didn't know which way they were going to go with this. Now, I'm really happy that the majority, I think there's still one audio leak that we haven't heard. yet. But out of the three leaks that we got or four leaks that we got, whatever amounted to, we got most of them in this first episode. So that means it's all new stuff after this. So that's one thing that I'm looking forward to. But yeah, let's just, let's dive in. We've got to get

through this bad boy. Rip that bandaid off. I didn't know there was another leak. That's exciting. And I agree. And I think they left those in intentionally to be like, hey, we got a lot more for you. I mean, they were great. It was great audio, regardless of Bravo leaked it or not. It was still great audio. You can't cut that out. They definitely leaked it. Andy was being messy. Come on. But anyway,

let's get into it. We start off with the confessional for In the City. I can't imagine being in that room. Like, that was, one, it was objectively really funny because we have a call between two phones and everybody's on the phone.

Great moment. Well, it was funny because Carl called Kyle and everybody else was on Lindsay's phone. It's like, ah, let's just keep Carl over here. We're not,

yeah. Carl's probably still blocked on Lindsay. He's a mess. He's a mess. Wait, that's actually really, he tried to call Lindsay. She didn't answer. Yeah, yeah, he was probably, he was texting. I like that they kept it the core group too.

Now, obviously, me is very close to Sierra. But the rest of it was just like the core group coming in. Like, all right, let's talk about this. Jesse gets on the phone. Carl gets on the phone. Let's just talk this whole thing out. As much as KJ obviously was influenced by a lot of this stuff, it was better to just keep it to the core.

Whoever was really disgruntled at the time. now we do find out of course and we we touched on this and in the city as well with kyle talking to amanda the night before and he had said that i think when he was on watch rabbits live with lindsay he said Amanda and i had discussed this the night before she came to me told me everything that was going on they're holding on to the end of february and that's pretty much where they stand after that brunch is where the whole whole thing started me immediately clocks it she's like i think it was like two weeks into january that's that's where i'm standing on like it's probably earlier than that based on what the fuck they were saying.

Exactly. That's all I got. The more they talk, the more I'm like, one, you guys don't know what the other person's saying, which tells me you didn't talk before this. Or like you said, West is lying to you, Amanda. So that's why you keep being surprised. But the more we see Amanda try to give explanations for the timeline.

Like, when did you guys first kiss? When did you guys first have sex? You're going to sit there with a straight face and tell me the first time that you banged is after releasing a joint statement, you don't release a joint statement with somebody you haven't had sex with. That's insane. That's crazy talk. And I know that sex isn't the barometer of like deep into a relationship.

It's love or whatever. But like, come on. Like I'm, obviously it's love. I'm just frazzled right out. But like that's crazy. That's absolutely insane for you to try to say that you released a joint statement about being in a relationship. and your claim is that you had not had sex before that. You celebrated the joint statement by fucking.

I'm very, very, I would love it if it plays out this way, but I would love if Amanda says later in the like part two, part three, whatever it might be. West and I didn't have sex because I know how that affected you, Sierra. So I wanted to make sure that I had all my ducks at a row. We wanted to build our emotional relationship before we got anything physical. Like, okay. No, it sounds better if we did it.

It was like a celebratory sex after we released the joint statement. That's what I got from it. That's what it was. If that's what you're holding on to, like the fact that she tried to clarify, it's fucking nuts. But they're all talking there and they're obviously divulging what everybody knows up to that point. Kyle does say like there's been blind items going back to last year. So when it actually started, I don't think we'll ever actually know.

but I will say I'm fairly convinced now that it was prior to January. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. But we get to KJ and Carl, quick check in with them. And I guess KJ was supposed to go to that game with West, which begs the question from me, did he invite him like after? No, no, no, no, no. I imagine that he, yeah, because he did say that they were playing Kansas City.

So they were playing the Royals. I imagine that KJ got invited. West probably said months ago or a month ago, like looking at the schedule coming out. And look, if we really want to put our detective hats on, him and Amanda were probably already banging. Him and Amanda were probably already hooking up, whatever that looks like.

And he was still trying to make sure that he was doing all of the normal social norms. He was still reaching out to everybody on the cast. He was still texting KJ and saying, hey, why don't you come to this Yankees, uh, royals game with me a little bit later? It comes out in March. We can go have a boy's day. and just celebrate Kansas City.

That would be a good time. But instead, it was more just trying to keep up appearances with everybody else. Because I imagine there was a good interim there where both of them were sure. Well, Amanda obviously didn't do it that well as we find out very quickly. But for West, the way the West operates, I'm sure he was still, he was probably still texting Kyle. Like Amanda was probably at his apartment and he was talking to Kyle about what his next DJ set is. Like that's just the kind of guy he is. That's a really good point.

He would definitely do that. One, to throw off the scent, right? and two, I don't think he cares. And I don't think he has any remorse. I think we're seeing that on stage. Yeah, and I think when he thinks about the repercussions, and we talked about this before, going down the line,

it's not going to be that big of a deal. Like Sierra, like he downplays everything, which is what Amanda got accused him doing, of course, at the reunion. But he's going to downplay everything. Like, oh, Sierra and I broke up two years ago, as we find out later in the episode, he ended up trying to sit down with her

and discussing boundaries and all of those types of things. He was just downplaying it the whole time. Like, oh, yeah, if somebody finds out that Amanda and I hooked up, we can just be like, oh, it was a one-time thing. And that's, I guess, what happened. And then they got caught. And that's what we found out that somebody was taking pictures through the apartment window. Still fucked up that person still go to jail. Very creepy.

But that coming out pushed everything back towards where the joint statement came out. Oh, my God. And the fact that he came in to the reunion and he's like, I feel Zen. You shouldn't. You fucking shouldn't. Like, that should not be your mood. the moment. It should be anything but Zen.

Seeing them kiss is still so fucking jarring. And actually, when we went back to that scene of them at the baseball game, that was so much weird or like, obviously it was weird and there was a lot of hoopla about it. That's fucking nuts. I don't care if you're trying to normalize what's going on. Like,

stay in your apartment. Go to Italy like you did for the reunion. They are currently in Italy, by the way, trying to like get out of the limel line while the sun. going on. Like people in Italy don't also enjoy Bravo and we'll also curse them out the street. Correct. If you guys are the biggest thing around right now, everybody's talking about it. Not in a good way. Derogic is the biggest thing around. Yes, exactly. But Sierra checks in with

Andy or vice versa, just how you feeling. And I felt terrible. Like she's already shaky in the dressing room. I can't imagine what she's going through before she gets on that stage. But as everyone's sitting down. We get the dick pick announcement, which obviously we all saw, unfortunately. And I guess his phone got hacked. I didn't know that part. Yeah, that's what he's claiming anyway. I love the way that he starts it off.

Yeah, I guess my phone got hacked and people have seen pictures of me. There's a couple of nudes floating around Missouri. That's not what happened. No, it's not what happened. I mean, maybe his phone got hacked. I wouldn't be surprised at that. I don't think so. I think ex has probably started sending his dick picks out.

That's also. way more plausible. But at the same time, I would not be surprised if some crazy Bravo fan was like, you don't fuck this guy. I'm going to dig into his phone. I can do that.

Maybe that crazier things have happened. But again, like their sentiment is it's so like laissez-faire, if you will. They're like, you know, there's a lot that we want to explain and I'm just going to shut down

the rumors that are already out there and like, you know, just we want to explain our side of things. things. No, they're too calm. They're too calm going into it. Obviously, when we get into everything, it's not calm anymore. But let's just get onto the stage. Everybody's sitting down. And we start with Sierra, obviously, like, how's the support? Oh, it's been insane, more than expected, blah, blah, blah. And again, like Amanda saying, we just want to explain our side of things get through this to the other side whatever and that's when the joint statement comes out it's

like oh i'm glad you could say our names this time because she says you know i want to apologize to to kyle and sierra and blah blah blah first time she said their name couldn't do it in the joint statement so sierra calls that out and amanda has the gall to go i i genuinely don't think that they know what they're talking about at this point like the rest of the crew is talking about the fact that they didn't actually apologize, which is what all of us were talking about, that neither of them actually about it. Now it was the same statement. So, of course, they didn't.

But they didn't apologize to Kyle, Sierra, to the rest of the fucking cast, the rest of the house, to production, to Bravo, to Andy, whoever you want to apologize to. They didn't do any of that. I don't think that they know what they're talking about. I truly don't. I do think that Amanda immediately thought, like, oh, we're going to be that petty, really?

Yes, we are. We're actually going to be way worse than this. This is very fucking easy. But I don't think that they, I just don't think it's clocking to them. that they didn't actually apologize to them in their statement. They released the statement because they got too much heat because the rumors were flying around and they just had to address it. When we walked through the whole timeline of Amanda talking to Sierra and everything,

it gives everything a much better perspective as to where they were with that. They use chat GPT to fire up a joint statement to throw out there because they realized that the heat was too much and they needed to come clean. Unbelievable. You hadn't had sex yet. You don't have to do anything. You can still lie. You guys haven't had sex yet.

Yeah, you could still lie if we're supposed to believe that. You could still say, yeah, I mean, we've been hanging out a lot more. Maybe it's been a little flirty at times, but like nothing has happened. And just hold on to that. And you'd be in a much better place. Instead, you guys drop this joint statement without having sex apparently. That doesn't make any sense to me. I don't think they proofread it either.

Or maybe they would have been like, oh, maybe we should mention Kyle and Sierra. Just, yeah, perhaps. But let's just get to the timeline or the alleged timeline because Sierra says, I was suspecting something on January 17th because I was going to invite a man over for drinks. I checked her location. She was at West House. Then Mia was there. So Mia group text, the three of them, and then she answered like 30 minutes later, which raised a lot of red flags, obviously.

How many times did she go over there? Like, I need to know how often they were hanging out in this apartment. Like, they talk about it. Like, again, it's so normal. And I understand like their castmates and everything. But I just, I don't know. I don't know. It seems so fucking sketchy.

We did some digging on that one. That was, I believe we found out that it was the Bears and the Rams playoff game. So it was a late night game. It was the Saturday night game. So they were all hanging out watching football presumably because that's, you know, Amanda's favorite pastime. She doesn't shut up about football. We know that.

And yeah. So I guess that's what happened. So they were just in the heat of the game, man. They couldn't text anybody. We're not going out for drinks. We got football. I don't know. But like the craziest line of the entire reunion was said, in my opinion,

because Amanda has the balls again to go, West was there for me all summer. She says this to Sierra. Mind you, Sierra's been there for Amanda predating West. So for her to even say that out loud to Sierra's face. And I'm really glad me to chimes in and goes, why are you prioritizing West over Amanda? Why is that friendship more important than Sierra's? Like I just, the balls to say that straight-faced to Sierra is heartbreaking, genuinely heartbreaking. She's been there through thick and thin every single time that Amanda's needed a shoulder to cry.

How many of those pity parties have we seen where Amanda's like, oh, woe is me, tell me I'm pretty. Tell me I'm worth something. look at me Sierra we've watched that every fucking season Wes just wants to fuck you that's why he's being nice and that's what you're going to say on stage you're going to open with that first of all why are you yelling why are you yelling at Sierra that's crazy work second of all this is your statement

yeah I mean walking through all that it definitely showed where Sierra was going to be which I was very happy to see because immediately as soon as Amanda starts trying to cut her off it was shut the fuck up i'm talking enough of you nobody wants to hear from you let me get back to what i was saying because i keep getting distracted by your stupid voice that's the exact energy that i want from seara i want her to go score surf on them which she does but when amanda gets into it i'm like are you playing offense what is this why are you doing this this doesn't make any sense you're really going to come back in her and say that west was there for you the entire summer because he pulled

up a chair when kyle said fuck you to you because he went to you in the bathroom and weirdly like rubbed your back and said, I love you and called you babe, I'm pretty sure. That's what I heard anyway. Those are the things that you're going to key in on from the summer. Not all the key keying, not all of the laying in bed and you crying and Sierra and Mia being there for you, even though they didn't need to be there for you because you do the same thing every fucking weekend. Not because you've missed that entire weekend and said it was the best weekend that you've

ever had all summer because Kyle wasn't there because he got to just kind of focus on things. And it happened the week after West made out with a girl and you showed him your ass and said, look at my ass as I walk away. Bizarre behavior all around. Unbelievable behavior. I cannot wait until we get into all of the ongoings of the fucking summer because that was just unbelievable. But I love that that was Sierra's energy and I was so surprised that was Amanda's energy because I'm like, what are you doing? Again, we talk about Amanda's character and her personality a lot now. I still have no idea who this woman is. No, and they say that in this reunion. I'm glad Sierra did. She's like, I don't know who you are. I don't know West is. She's just a snake. And that's where you

to go back into other seasons. It's like, what moments were real? What moments are genuine? Has this always been her character? And we just missed it because we were so focused on Kyle. Like, I'm starting to believe that. But her response is, I had an awakening. What? I had an awakening and I was, I was separated from my, what do you mean you had an awakening? Like, you're awakening that you had to go fuck west? Like what, how is an awakening a defense? And then we start laying out the evidence, the bread crumbing that we saw the dinner and drinks with all these people they're all west friends then she goes with the i have friends argument really who and this is the first time you see kyle kind of jump in it's like well that you know katie is like the one and that's going to be

the really interesting part of this reason because obviously there's a lot to be answered for obviously as we saw at the end of the uh the episode when he tries to reel and sierra a little bit like hey that was kind of harsh but then acknowledges like you feel the way you feel walking that tightrope of that's my ex-wife who I still love and she burned the house to the ground and everyone needs the retribution is going to be very, very fascinating to watch. Yeah, and I'm glad that we talked about this first because chronologically, I would have gone nuts if we didn't start talking about the timeline and the breadcrumbs and all the Instagram stuff. They were hanging out a ton.

Everybody knows that everybody saw it even before the rumors were confirmed. So talking about that first makes the most sense to me. And there's a date because I'm going to feel. forget. I'm so sorry. There's a date. Dev showed me September 25th, 2025. They were on a date together. It's just one on one. Yeah, that's the Instagram post that a lot of people are just kind of floating out there. It was a West Instagram post from September. And it was just the two of them hanging out drinking wine. So that was going on well before January, well before any of this. And they touch on it briefly, and I hope we get more into it later because they touch on the fact

that after they finished filming that they were hanging out in the fall and West was really there for her afterwards. And it was just bizarre. But they do. the same thing where they talk about Sierra and West. And that's when Amanda's face just gets fucking white, she's like, oh, I didn't know any of that. But when they go through all of the Instagram posts and all of Amanda

hanging out with him and his friends and all of those things, and she tries to explain a way that she had other friends. I'm newly single. I had an awakening. I was turning my location on and off. Like I was doing things and hanging out with a lot of different people. I wasn't just hanging out with West. But then it immediately gets met with.

We text you. Sierra texts you and you don't answer. or you'll answer a couple days later and say, sorry, I was just off the map. I wasn't doing anything. You're not hanging out with the people that you're saying are your best friends. If Sierra was really your best friend, you'd be hanging out with her. We watched all summer. She had your back the whole summer.

Why are you not hanging out with her? It's just fucking bizarre. But you were definitely hanging out with West. You can say that you were hanging out with other friends. You can say that you were hanging out with family. I don't care. There's no Instagram proof of that. The Instagram proof is that you were hanging out with only West and only West's friends.

So that's what we're talking about here. So when you try to make the argument that I was hanging out with a bunch of other people, where? Show me the proof because there's nothing, nothing on anyone's Instagram. No, and to your point, if you're posting with them, why would you not post with anybody else? Yep. That doesn't make any sense either. But the big question for Jesse, was he the Tom Schwartz in this whole situation? Did Jesse know?

I 100% believe he did not know. I don't think he's guilty at all. But we get to Meeha. Miha is allegedly West's girlfriend who lives in St. Louis. Chicago. Chicago. Thank you. Midwest somewhere.

And she's the one that made him the horse tie on Watch What Happens Live. Now, I, Dev clock something. When he says, like, just the way that he operates, like in this moment, they're calling out you out a girlfriend. Well, not a girlfriend. I was seeing somebody. Like he tries, he just. He lives in semantics land.

Yes. Yes. exactly everything he does is semantic and that's how he tries to wiggle his way out of things and he's good enough at it i don't know if it's the us like is it his tone of voice there's something about the way he talks and switching up words it works he he just kind of the other thing like talking about the jesse aspect when they both Amanda and west both say no we lied to his face like straight up we we lied to him we hung out he asked us questions we told him no and we lied to them straight up. That was so nonchalant. The way that they were able to just, like,

they want us to congratulate them for the fact that now they're apologizing, and now they're coming clean, which is wild because it should be more of a focus that you were able to lie to everybody involved, not only your best friend, but your ex-husband, but your other best friends, no matter which side you're on, you were lying to everybody the same way. You're lying right now. You're, you've lined up all of your answers. Why would we believe after you lied to us for four months, five months, whatever it was, that now you guys are like, well, we got to come clean. We're caught. We must just come clean about everything. Like, that's not how it works. Once a liar, always a liar. And especially the way the West operates,

like you said, he just lives in that gray land. Like, it's just all gray areas. Even with Sierra, it was always a gray area. She went to St. Louis to go meet his family. And he was still like, yeah, you know, I don't really know if I want a girlfriend or anything, but you can come to Thanksgiving with me. Okay, that's four months away. That's bizarre. And then he does the same thing with everybody else. So when we see it about somebody who's not on TV and he's still operating the same way, it's like, okay, this is what you do all the time. This is how you want to live.

That's a really good point. Like he does operate in that gray area with everything. That's where he lives. That's where he thrives. And that's why he's good at wiggling his way out of situations because he's always, what's the word? By not ever taking a firm stance on anything, they just take him not as seriously. It's like, oh, it's a quest. that's how we yeah that's fucking annoying but we do get another great line there's so many great lines

from this we need a poster in here just with every one liner from the same issue from rhodesia from Rhode Islands could make us a poster oh that'd be great yeah i need the three-ply uh science fair poster board yeah ideally but you went from being married to one of west side bitches that's crazy me a electric this episode yeah this is one of the audio leaks that we've already had weeks and weeks to dig into. It's still such a great line. Like, watching it actually happened and this is what I talked about when the audio leaks came out and we had that episode about it.

I still wanted to see it in person and it still hits the same way, if not better. I'm so happy that all of those things were still included. But the way that Mia goes after, like, good, absolutely. That's the first time that I saw a man that actually make like a genuine face. The rest of it was just bullshit. The rest of it is like, I can't believe that you guys are coming after me. but when you got called a side bitch of West to get out of your marriage, her face again goes completely white.

Like, I'd have really thought about it like that before. Oh, this is how he operates. He's going to pump and dump and see you later. I don't know what I'm going to do. I got to stick by them. We got to keep this relationship going.

Like that's where we get into the realm of. They have to get married at this point. That's what I said. If they don't, I don't know how they show themselves in public anymore. That's why they're in Italy right now. They're probably in some like Havel and Tuscany. where nobody can see them.

Yeah, West is probably miserable. He hates his life right now. He's seeing hot Italian chicks walk by that don't know who he is. He's like, damn, if Amanda wasn't here, I'd have a shot. And, oh, the other thing about just how he talks about Sierra and, like, her feelings. Because you were talking about her going to St. Louis, like, how big of a deal that was and how he's so nonchalant about everything. He says things that are casual for me aren't casual to Sierra.

in a way that's like, you know, I had to learn that. And like, that's okay. It's like, you invited her to Thanksgiving, dude. What are you talking about? You told Ben that you guys were magic. These are hyperbolic statements and grand gestures. So that tells me that it's not nonchalant. And I hate, I hate the fact that he takes your feelings and makes them smaller.

Like that's fucking annoying. And that's what he does with everything. And he does it in a way, too, where. Yeah, in a fucking vacuum, that makes sense. I understand what you're saying. You kissing, you making out, doing all of those things and not having sex is very casual to you. We're like, oh, I went to a bar the other night, hooked up with a girl, never got her number, don't even know who she is, don't remember her name.

That's casual for West. But for Sierra, she would never do that. She would only kiss somebody who she has an emotional connection to. So it makes sense, sure. But again, what you're doing is just minimizing her feelings. You're saying I had to relearn that. I had to rewire my brain to understand how that works. Like, no, that's again, downplaying and acting like she doesn't exist.

And then we get the defense of, well, you can't help like who you fall in love with pretty much. But she catches herself and says like who you like. Yeah. That's crazy work. Yes, you can. As everybody on the stage says, it's not fucking high school, dude. You 100% can control yourself and not throw yourself at West. because there's no way.

You can't even say love on stage. You checked yourself and said like. You were about to say, you can't say the word love. You burn down everything for this man and you can't say you love him. That's terrifying. How the fuck can you not get that word out? I don't know. Maybe they watched some Santaval film and they realize that if you say that you love that person,

that you're never going to be able to escape it. So they're like, well, let's just hold on to what's going on here. And we can, uh, maybe we can wiggle our way out of it. But it's still three months later and you guys are still, I guess, attached to the hit because nobody else will have you. Yeah, pretty much. But I do have a question for you, because Sierra says to her, you chose the one guy and you did it on purpose because you're a fucking snake in the grass. Do you think that she has like jealousy for Sierra and this was like a get back at her for some way? Was she trying to fuck her over? Like, was this intentional? No. So,

I that was directed at west the you hook oh I thought that was direct to get Amanda no that was she said you chose the one guy shit that you're you're you're merging two different and things so that yeah yeah so that that statement was towards the end but the snake in the grass the you chose the one guy was pretty much just to say like you could have fucked anybody like you could have and that's what we said after the whole Kyle and Amanda thing went down we're like oh wow Amanda's going to get a bit of a glow up she's going to be in the city she's going to be back on summer house everybody's going to be flocking to her because of how bad Kyle's actually

are. That's what Sierra was saying anyway is you could have chosen anybody. You could have gone. You're rich. You've got a trust fund. You're famous. You're on TV. People love you. You've got a good sentimental edit after the season. You could have gone and hooked up with anybody. Not West. You chose the one guy that you shouldn't have chosen. And that's, I think it's more just like plain disregard. But for West, which I thought that this should have been directed at Amanda because of what you just said, that Amanda is very jealous. Amanda is insanely jealous of Sierra. But for West, the comment was, did you do this? Essentially, you did this because it's the best get back that you could come up with because of how things ended and because of the way that I absolutely skewered you for two years.

This is what you did to get back at me. And good for you. Claps to you. But it should have been directed at Amanda because I think that Amanda did it because she wanted to be Sierra. She wants to be better than Sierra. And this is the best way to do it, which is so fucking hilarious. Because West up until this point is probably Sierra's biggest mistake. genuinely and again i can't say enough how your biggest issue with kyle was the staying out late

the party and the drinking and now you're with west who does all of those things and has apparently multiple girlfriends while doing it that you're finding out about now i think that she was so caught off guard when she heard like i know she probably heard about the girlfriend at that point yeah there's no way she knew about it and i i think there's more women out there I'm waiting for more to come out of the woodwork. Like there's no way that there's only two. No, there's no way that there's only two. I'm waiting for like slight Kyle slander.

Like he catches strays. Pretty much like everything that we've said about West where it's like, wow, you divorced Kyle so that you could be younger, less attractive, same version of Kyle. Good job. That makes a lot of sense. Like I'm waiting for Kyle to get some strays. He's going to at some point somebody's going to point that out.

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It's too obvious. But let's get to the texts because this goes back to what you were saying. They're so nonchalant about their apologies and everything because Sierra Tech. or I guess Amanda texted her. I can't believe I have to text you this. West and I are very much just friends. Granted, they were hooking up at that time.

100% hooking up. Then she said, she texted her again, where it's like, hey, I didn't like the way that we left things off. Mind you, Sierra had doubled down on this and said,

okay, but just for clarity, like you guys haven't done anything. And she hit her with a correct. Correct. Correct. So then she turns off her location. as they say, like the first time in five years, Kyle confirms, like you never turned off your location.

Her defense of that is, oh, well, my manager and my other friends, I don't want them to know where I'm at all the time. Stop it. This is like the first time that West ever spoke up in her defense too, because he looked over and goes, she's newly single. Like, well, oh, that makes a lot of sense. Yeah, sure. Because if you're newly single and you're at random people's houses, your friends are going to get nervous and your friends are going to accuse you of doing things because your location shows you at a random person's house. Like who cares if you're hooking up with whoever, not West, not somebody that they all

know, not an ex-boyfriend, not an ex-fiance, like whatever it may have been. Instead, it's like, no, I don't like people know my location. Like, okay. I mean, Kyle, one, I don't think that Kyle should have her location anymore from being honest. That's probably not. It's kind of fucking weird. But for Sierra, it's like, that's your best friend.

Why are you hiding things? You're only turning off your location if you're hiding things. That doesn't make any sense to me. Also, newly single, you'd imagine you want your location on because in the past, you'd have Kyle to track you and help you. Now you don't have a husband. So you'd think you'd want your girlfriends, like, let's say you're going out on a date, new guy.

Hey, she's in her party. I'll share my location. Yeah, that too. You're out and about, bopping around. So it would make the most sense if you were ever to have your location on. It would make the most sense if you're new. single. So that doesn't make any fucking sense. But her trying

to clarify like what the timeline was. The fact that she clarifies in her text messages multiple times like no, nothing was going on. And then she sits there on the stage and my biggest takeaway from this whole thing was how unapologetic she seemed in the actual moment. She's pissed that she got caught.

She's not actually remorseful in any way, shape, or form. No, not even remotely. Like she's just like, again, it's not even defense. It's offense. She's going after Sierra. She's trying to paint them as overbearing and crazy and trying to make something out of nothing.

Yeah, like she's acting like they're overreacting. Like this just happened. I mean, it's the age old like, oh, wow, I turned around. I tripped and fell right into Amanda's arms. Like, that's not how that fucking works. So when we go through that timeline and you guys say like, oh, yeah, we got a little flirty here and there, that doesn't make any sense. No, zero. But another question.

And Dev brought this up again. She was on fire. But they keep saying we were trying to figure out our feelings, right? Like we released the state and we're trying to figure out how we're feeling. Like we went through all these moments to try to figure out how we're feeling. You're trying to figure out how you're feeling or you can't believe you feel this strongly about West. Like which one is it? Because you can't be trying to figure it out.

But also you fell so hard that you backstabbed your best friend, burned down the summer. house and disrespected Kyle in the process as well. It just happens. Things just happen, man. In the grand scheme of the world, this isn't the craziest thing that's ever happened. That was my favorite line from Amanda. Because I'm like, wow, that's how you're choosing to downplay this is by saying the crazier things in the world have happened.

Sure. Again, just completely turning a blind eye to how everybody feels about this. Well, let's get into the first time they smooched. Their claim, end of February. After brunch. Again, the brunch was with Kyle and Ben. And then they went home and smooched. Okay, cool.

And then they point for the first time, as we said, after that joint statement. Now, question for you. One of his biggest issues when he was with Sierra, he talked to Jesse about it frequently, was that she wouldn't have sex with him. Sierra wouldn't have sex with him until they were actually dating because she was protecting herself, as she should. but he had a lot of issues with that. You're telling me that from January until this moment that the joint statement

in the 31st, right, March 31st, you hadn't had sex. You hadn't done anything, West. You hadn't had sex in like three months, dude. You? I don't believe you. I don't believe you at all. Well, I mean, he also had a whole ass girlfriend in Chicago. So if he needed sex in Chicago, he could go.

over there. And I'm sure he also had other girlfriends in New York too. Now, I mean, I don't believe it. Obviously, I think it's outlandish that that's the plan that they came in with was that we had sex after the joint statement. I don't think they, I don't think they knew. I think that they hadn't discussed that part. And she was caught off. I was like, oh, uh, after the statement. Yes, I do. And then he just echoed it so that they could stay on the same page. That's incredibly funny to me because they don't understand what that means. That takes it as, well, the joint statements out there. We might as well have sex now. Celebrate. It's either that or it's let's celebrate. Now, we can live our truth, guys. This is cool. Oh, it's fucking crazy work, dude. But again, we get more of the,

I'm not supposed to pursue something I feel strongly about. You're minimizing so hard. That's not the situation that we have at hand here. So to say that is wildly disrespectful and fucking no, as they say on stage, we're not in high school. Her response, you guys are acting. like I had an affair. It pretty much is. You know, yeah, sure, you didn't technically cheat on anybody. You probably did, but we don't have any confirmation of that. I would say the gravity of this is that of an affair.

But you're playing semantics again. Yeah. And if that makes you feel better, fine. But you know damn well the gravity of this situation. And the minimizing is crazy. The minimizing is crazy. And that's why I think that this is such a better reunion than scanning. And of all was because everything that Tom and I guess Raquel, even though they were like pretty

much mute the whole time, everything that they were throwing out there was just trying to clarify certain things. But they weren't really doing the cloak and dagger bullshit. The rest of the cast was egging it on. The rest of the cast was screaming at them. Lala was getting off. James was getting off. All of them were just absolutely screaming and eviscerating them, which is great because you get

some good sound bites. But we don't get to have deep discussions like this. We don't get to have them actually answer for different things that they've done. I have to credit the cast for this because even though, yeah, Sierra's pissed off. Kyle's not really talking at this point. Lindsay could easily be that la-la figure who just starts going off. Mia could start screaming, whatever it may have been. They all stayed on task.

They all asked them to clarify certain things and kept asking more questions and kept stopping the discussion to say, can you clarify this? Can you tell us exactly when this happens? Which gets us so much further because it actually gets us fucking answers versus what we all want anyway is for them to just get eviscerated. We do want that. but we also want them to have to answer for their crimes. And I feel like they're doing a good job.

Not only that, but Andy's kind of just staying out of it and letting them operate. And I appreciate that. Yeah, I do too. The fact that he's not tried to like redirect it to something. Well, I ask this, like just letting them go. I very much appreciate it. He's doing a good job, actually.

He's making some good one-liners in defense of Sierra, which I appreciate as well. It kind of winds down after this. And again, like Sierra says, you were so confused about your feelings that you had to put out a statement and fuck up the whole house to figure out how you were feeling about each other. Okay, cool. And Sierra, her intentions now, she's like,

well, after that, I don't know, I might as well discuss the details before I put them in the ground and cover them in dirt. Yeah. Cold. Yeah. I fucking love that lie. That was badass. But Levi comes out. And I'm glad that she got a little package. I really want her to come back. Yeah. And I think she deserves another chance. I think Bailey did good enough for the both of them. And since

they're attached to the hip, it's a package deal. I want Levi to have another shot. We definitely got a confirmation that Levi exists because up until now we could have easily been confused and thought that she was an imaginary friend, but she was real. So that's always good to see. I thought that when Levi came out, I'm like, all right, she's going to be out here for maybe 10 minutes and then she's going to get swapped for Dara, who's going to have to come out and talk about the KJ situation. Everything else, I don't know what Levi's going to do. Oh, we have to get into Bailey. This is going to be boring. Let's move on. Let's get back to Amanda and West. No. I'm so happy that Bailey came to play.

That's funny you said that because I wrote here. I was like, oh, it's interesting. Bailey has a package. She wasn't really on the show. I wrote that in my notes. So I clocked it too. But yeah, I'm thrilled that she came out. I was not expecting this whole scene to go the way it did.

Before we get to that point, well, first of all, it bothered the shit out of me that we're talking about the cutouts and like, you know, they're doing hand jobs to the cutouts, whatever. West is laughing. And like, stop. Stop it. And again, that points to he doesn't. care. Like this is not that big of it. He just wants to get through this. That's all he isn't it

about. It's part he doesn't care. Part he usually gets his way and he usually skates around these things. Like he's just used to that. Correct. But let's get to Mia, which was a sweet moment. I love Mia. I think she's one of the best additions to any show in a very long time. She fits in with the group so well. She stands up for Sierra, which I love. But watching this scene, obviously during the season, it was emotional watching the psychic scene, just hearing how she's, She's still going through things and some days are better than others. But I love that she says that she's living for her mom, which is great. And I just want her to be happy because she is like, again, what a great addition to this show,

like phenomenal job. Yeah. Yeah. She's absolutely perfect for the show. She slid right in. And obviously she's been friends in Sierra. But she meshed with the group so well. And we find out that her and Scott broke up, which is kind of sad.

But as we kind of. It was necessary. Because we saw the contract conversation going on throughout the season. The writing was definitely on the wall there, and she seems fine. I mean, it's one of those things where we talked about it in depth. Timing isn't going to work out. Maybe they'll find each other in a couple of years. Maybe not, whoever it might be.

Mia's going to make somebody happy and somebody's going to make Mia happy. At least that's what she deserves. Yeah, that's what we want. But I love that she gets a couple of digs in there, but they were compliments. She's like, oh, you know, so thankful for Sierra. Like, I can depend on and rely on her and she'll always be there for me. That's reminding Amanda what she lost. And then she ends the whole thing with.

You know, it's just, it's unhealthy to go from one serious relationship to another. It's like, ah, get them. Love the subtle things. But then we get to the Ben stuff. Now, for the record, we clocked Ben a long time ago. We said he's a fucking weirdo. He was a dud, shouldn't be on the show. Didn't know all of this.

But it is confirmation. It was a question that we were asking during the season. A lot of people on mine were discussing the outburst he had at Bailey. And it leads off with. with like, hey, did, did you know how much Bailey was crushing on you? It's like, oh, no, I had no idea. We didn't talk that much. Didn't we have a conversation.

Billy's like, I love that she comes out swinging. She's like, fuck you. Yeah, we did. We talked a lot. We had the newbies lunch or whatever. We have the pictures of like us three out together with that. You're full of shit. And then she goes scorched earth.

And you reprimand women. I don't like the way he talked to Sabrina. I don't like the way he talked to Levi. And you're full of shit. fuck yeah where did that come from i have no idea where that came from i obviously ben was not expecting it ben could have played this so much easier and i just said look yeah i mean uh talking about the comment that you made about me wanting to bang amanda in front of everybody that was a weird joke it just made me a little uncomfortable and i probably didn't handle myself that great but i was just

uncomfortable and that should be the end of it instead he was like i just didn't really understand where that came from because we hadn't talked until then it's like whoa what why are you doing this Like she could go scorched earth And she did go scorched earth on you And I love the flashes over to Levi Who's just co-siding everything like Oh yeah Yeah yeah yeah

What are you talking about? We did all hang out We know exactly who you are We talked a lot And then I love Bailey going even deeper I don't like the I don't care for the way You talk to Sabrina Everything that I've seen online

It's just you just reprimanding her But when you go over to Kyle It's like you guys are going to make out I don't get it And that clip of him and Kyle He genuinely And he gives him a hugger and takes his hat off I'm like wow

That actually does like they're going to make out I thought he was going to make out with him. It was such a good read. It was so unexpected. Levi jumped in a few times to get him to, which was awesome. It was great. And then Ben digs himself a deeper hole because it shifts to Carl. It's like, well, you got a little turned down when Carl got heated.

Ben's like, yeah, do you want to make out with him? Not the same situation. Not the same situation at all. No, not at all. Not even remotely. And obviously Bailey can clock that pretty quickly. Carl wasn't screaming in a woman's face. Carl was going after somebody who's being an asshole.

I don't know what we're talking about here. He's like, oh, shit. All right. Yeah, I should probably just stop talking for the rest of this. It was super duper hot. But the question remains. And a lot of us want it. I understand the hesitation.

But will Bailey and Carl ever date? I don't know, dude. This show is cursed. You can't ship anybody. You just can't ship anybody. Let's wait until, the dust settles and we'll see where we end up. I do love Carl and Carl's like journey through everything now.

Obviously, yeah, kind of poke fun at certain things that he said where he's like, yeah, you know, obviously I'm not just going to hook up with somebody and just move on with my life. It's just not who I am anymore. It's like, well, I mean, you know, I'm extra careful in the house. Yeah, are you? I mean, you have been for the last year. But I remember last year, you pulled Sierra aside and said that you loved her.

So I don't know how careful you're being. Yeah, and you were engaged to another housemate. Yeah. So I'm going to read between the lines here. actually give you the benefit of the doubt because obviously, yes, I mean, where Carl is and when he explains where he is in his dating life, it makes total sense. I mean, he's trying to figure out who he is as a person. And he also has to try to figure out how he's going to date as a person and find his person. And he has to build his emotional connection with that person. So everything he said was

absolutely stellar. Again, we have to give props to Carl every time he talks at this point. Number one guy in the group for a reason. Jesse's very close. But Carl's definitely in that number one spot. But let's get to KJ, which was such a moving scene. It took so much strength for him to do that. I choked up. I'll admit it. He's been such a breath of fresh air just on reality TV in general with how he approaches things. He's such a stand-up guy. We have so few stand-up dudes on reality TV. And we've got Carl and KJ on the same show. That's pretty special. But for him to share this journey that he went on to talk about his mental health and then it got much worse in the fall and he self-harmed to the point to go to the hospital.

It's such heavy shit. It's real shit. And I'm sure so many people can relate. And the fact that he is so open about his mental health journey on reality TV, I think is fucking incredible, especially considering that he suffers from anxiety pretty bad, but he's still able to voice how he's doing how he's feeling in a way that I'm, I'm just. just always impressed with him. Like I think this was such a cool moment for him to to have the strength to stand up and say something like this is not easy. And I, he's just a special guy.

Yeah, it was such an immensely emotional scene for him to go through that. And obviously it was prefaced by Andy even saying like so many people had reached out and said that they really appreciated the way that you were navigating through mental health, anxiety, all of those things you were very transparent about everything you were going through pretty much from the get go. I'm pretty sure it was his first day at the house he was talking about how he doesn't know how he's going to get over his anxiety in the house. To find out that it took a turn for the worst afterwards is so tough to hear. But then all I could think about is him sharing it so candidly and actually going through

every step that he went through from the self-harm to going to the hospital, to going to rehab for months. And then talking about how Mia and Sierra came and sat with him every single day is unbelievable. So, I mean, props to him for going through all of that. And again, I mean, the cast is so close that you. you can see that. Jesse gets choked up. Carl's reaching over. Levi's reaching over. Everybody's looking over and I'm like, we love you. Everything's going to be great. And then you've got two dumb fucks sitting in the front like,

yeah, what to do. And I do think and look, even in this moment, I don't think the KJ is going to be petty, but he did say something that kind of perked my ears up. He was like everybody, pretty much everybody in this room has been somewhat supportive. Like, oh, God, I know what you're saying. Yeah, but I mean, that's such another fucked up part of this whole thing. Like he says West was like a brother to him. And then that all goes down after this summer happens. And then he has to find out that you're just a backstabbing piece of shit. You lied to his face.

Lied to everybody's face. That's another layer. Like that's where I don't think Amanda or West understand how many layers there are to this thing. Like how much they actually fucked up because they're trying to play it off. Like, look, we love each other. We burn Sierra. We're sorry. It's like, no, you burned everybody.

Like everybody's a part of this. and you guys don't understand that to the point that you couldn't even name names in your joint statement. So that's what drives me crazy watching them navigate all of this because it just shows you their intention in this reunion is 100% to get through it and just absolve themselves in some way, shape, or form, get the heat off of them. It has nothing to do with actually taking accountability to actually apologizing to everybody and actually owning up for what the, fuck they did the gravity of the whole thing all they care about is their own self-interest which makes sense because that's how we got into this fucking mess yeah and i know for a fact just the way that they're operating right now they're going to change tactics especially after the end of this episode the way that things go again the tactic of trying to play offense and act like everybody's overreacting is

wild to me but they tried it it didn't work so i think that they'll probably try to regroup i mean we'll get a break at some point or they break for lunch or whatever it might be and they'll probably try to reassess the situation and they'll come back out maybe crying maybe sad maybe quiet whatever it might be but we're going to see a couple different instances of them changing where they're going wherever their game plan is going to head and that's going to be very funny to watch they need a half time you know yeah but they don't have they don't have the minds uh necessary to get through all of that and make the necessary adjustments no they have no idea what the hell they're doing But we have to check in with Sierra about the house of North Carolina, another really awesome scene.

We haven't seen that side of Sierra very often. So it was really cool to see her open up this season. That's what pisses me off again. Is she going to put her walls back up? She has every right to. Is she going to do that again? Because it was so nice watching her this season talk about her family stuff, talk about, you know, the house and how she was able to go down there and buy that. And it was such a cool thing.

And if West and Amanda take that from me, I'm going to be fucking livid. And no, Andy, I don't need you to check in with West about, are you bummed that you couldn't share in the joy of the house with Sierra? Like, I don't need you to check in with him. It was, I think it was a means to an ends to get back to West. Yeah, probably. And it was also probably to force him to fucking talk. So I don't really have a problem with the questioning because I do think that when it comes

to somebody like West who is just going to hope and pray that he can get through this reunion without talking that much, you have to ask him direct questions. No matter what it is, even if it's just something as small as this, it's going to get him talking. And then once he says something stupid, everybody else can jump back in. So that's kind of what I expected from this. Now, Wes, I don't even know what the fuck he said. He's like, you know, knowing Sierra as a person, I just, I know how much it met.

But like at the same time, I like, yeah, I mean, like, I didn't know about it. And we did talk about it at the end of the summer, like when we reconciled. And it was, you know, that's great. I know what sentimental things mean to her. Yeah, I know what sentimental things mean to her is what he said. Again, minimizing her feelings. But yeah, nobody's going to point that one out. It's just unbelievable to me, the way that he navigates through this.

It doesn't make any sense. Like, fucking speak up. Like, he's whispering. He's like, he's got something in his throat that he can't actually talk. Like, talk. Somebody asked you a question, answer. Dude, it's embarrassing. It's genuinely embarrassing.

And that's why I don't think they really prepared for this reunion. I don't think they actually sat down and said, okay, how are we going to approach this? What do we say if they ask us this? What do we say if they ask us that? They didn't do those talks. And it's pretty fucking obvious. But we get to the makeout at the end of the summer. And we all saw that.

It didn't look like ear stuff to me, but I don't really know what ear stuff is. And again, I do now. I don't want to know what ear stuff is. But again, by calling that part out, it's like we're not in like jokey territory. I know it's like a joke, but he's trying to make light of the situation by be like, oh, it was ear stuff. He was dead serious when he said ear stuff by the way. I thought he was trying to take that as a joke.

I thought like I do think he's going to try to do that, but he's going to get knocked down immediately. I thought he was dead serious when he said ear stuff. It was just, uh, it's just ear stuff, you know, like whatever. And it kind of, again, this is the start of that when Lindsay actually ends it at the end. But this is the start of him saying weird shit that gets people thrown off. Like even Kyle's like, oh, yeah.

Yeah, that actually kind of gets me going too. I understand what you're talking about. What the fuck, Kyle? What are we talking about? Yeah, that part was weird too because everyone started like chime in and kind of like elbow each other like, hey, hey, yeah. Ears. No.

But yeah, that's him doing what he does. The interesting part, though, is you see people start to call out his booths. Obviously, Lindsay calls it out at the end. But Kyle calls it out in this moment. He's like, are you breadcrumbing the audience? Like, you know what to say to win people over, which is alluding. to everything you did with Sierra was bullshit so that you could get in people's good graces again. You wanted to get back on top.

We talked about this all season because you saw him start to hesitate as things started to get more real. And that's what he confirms when he's trying to say, I was very proactive and trying to protect our friendship. But then we start getting little nuggets left and right. What do you mean she slept over at your house multiple times? Yeah. It doesn't matter if it's sex or not.

The fact that you're doing that, especially to Sierra, means something. But that's his thing. His whole entire thing is sex means something. That's when it's real and serious. Everything else is casual. We're just hanging out. You're not trying to protect the friendship and you're not trying to give the idea that you're not going to try to date this woman. If she's hanging out at your apartment.

Like that doesn't make any sense. He was trying to say it like we were just hanging out. But there's confirmation. Like you guys were smooching. So how does that protect the friendship and not give off? a boyfriend-y vibe. I have no idea. I go back to Kyle asking the question.

It was very funny to me because he had no idea how to land that plane. He had zero clue. He was going to. He knew what he wanted to say. He's like, do you feel like you're breadcrumbing the audience to, uh, uh,

help me out here. Come on. Liddy, somebody, somebody, fuck, Lindsay, I'll take it from here.

Do you feel like you're bread crumbing the audience to think that you just got back into their good graces by making up with Sierra so that then you could move on to be your weird, creepy self? Yes. Absolutely. That's exactly what he was doing. He wanted to, and this is what he always wanted, was to make amends with Sierra and hopefully do it in a way that's somewhat romantic, but not that romantic. So it leaves the door open that they could have sex again and they can hook up again potentially, but they don't have to date because he still wants to keep his door open. And that's how things work out for West. That's exactly what he was trying to do the entire time. We all know it.

100%. He had no intention of actually doing anything with her. And you saw it, especially at the end of the season, when they're getting close to the end of the end of the, summer you see it start to ramp up and he starts to panic that's why you have the conversation with him and ben where he's like i don't want to give off the idea of like i've tried to be her boyfriend make sure you tell sabrita to like not push that okay and then you make out with her later so everything you say is not what you do your actions speak way louder than your words it's quite clear what the motive was from the jump it was to try to get back into good graces of the audience that's all that's all you're trying to do and where are you now pal and he asked you're going to fuck this one up too. This is worse than your first showing. And that's pretty hard to do. This is his

attempt at an apology. This is when he starts to say like, you know, I fell short in these moments, like numerous times and, you know, just try to be friends like whatever. And that's when Lindsay clocks him and she reads him to filth because she's like, this is what you do. Like I was falling for it. You almost had me. But this is what you do. You pull people in. You climb that clout ladder. And then when they don't serve you anymore, you dump them. And that is 100% on the nose exactly how you explain West. Like she did it perfectly. That's who this guy is. He is self-serving at every step of the way. He wants to bang whoever, keep on trucking and not give two shits about the wake of disaster he leaves in his bath. Yeah. And that's once again, exactly the approach that I

want the rest of the cast to take because all you have to do is talk about west his manipulations all of the things that he wants to do especially with women and then also just tag in amanda real quick because at the end of lindsay's little uh rant about everything the west was doing she then goes and says and you're going to do the same thing with amanda once you're done with amanda you're going to dump her to and then she's going to be left by the wayside and you're going to continue to go amanda again you i love the fact that like the camera just keeps cutting over to the two of them no matter what's going on i just need to have a camera on them just to see the reaction just a reaction can they should have it in the top right corner of just their face is reacting to

things but the best way to go about this is just just call out all of west behavior like yes amanda has a lot of things to answer for especially with sierra maybe not as much with kyle but definitely with sierra and then it's just mostly west because west is doing the same thing and then if you can try to tie in how amanda is going to feel when he's done with her then you'll see it on her face then you'll see like she's starting to understand she realizes fuck am i really in that position like i i don't know did i just screw myself over That's what I want to see the most of. 100%.

But it ends with Sierra destroying Amanda because she's like, honestly, you're probably the best woman for West. Someone who's not going to check them, be that weak figure in the relationship, allow him to walk all over you, no accountability, no anything. It was harsh and 1,000 percent deserved. 1,000 percent deserved. Yeah, it's completely true. Like that, of course, that relationship makes sense.

West can do whatever the fuck he wants. Kyle in this moment has a tough, tough moment because. Do you think it was a tough moment for Kyle because he was thinking about Amanda's feelings? Or was it also like it felt like he just got jabbed? You just fucking read our entire marriage and relationship to Philth. And that's exactly what I was doing to her the whole time. And holy shit, yeah, that's probably true.

That was a little harsh. Yeah. Yeah, you know what? Your feelings are valid. I know that's how you feel. but like, yeah, that was a little harsh. I don't know how to feel about that one. I'm like, I don't think you're talking about Amanda right now.

I think that one hit you in the fields. I think that's like somewhere in the middle, right down the middle. Yeah, on one hand, it's like, oh, I don't like the way you just described me. And, oh, that was rough on Amanda. But it was deserved. Like, she deserves more than that. And that's what's crazy about her going on the attack. It's like, who do you think you are in this moment?

You are not the victim here. And you're trying to play victim. meanwhile your mute boyfriend won't say a fucking word let's uh dig into some questions here i'm sure we've got a million tried to put it up at the right time oh wait wait wait wait before we do that dev just sent me this it's a tweet didn't amanda say they released the statement because someone filmed them having sex uh i don't remember her specifically saying having sex i do remember i think they said in i think they said an intimate moment which again semantics she's learning i she's all right questions i'm sure we got a million of them yeah i'm sure there's probably just a million

questions of they definitely had sex before that release statement right guys yeah yeah there is okay uh from maria d hugh west is a mute but do we really care to believe what he has to say no but he definitely needs to talk more. He absolutely needs to talk more. Regardless of the fact that he's going to lie about everything, like he does need to talk because you have to put him in the hot seat. Like that's where Andy's really going to have to do his job is bringing him into the conversation, which he did a little bit.

I'm not saying he's not doing it, but he's going to have to do that probably the whole time. Yeah. And this is what you were saying earlier from Pretty Ricky 22. Wes keeps laughing. He doesn't get to enjoy jokes. Stop spurkey. Yeah.

Seriously. Like, what do you think this is? It's maddeny. He does that. that's who he is. It's maddening. From N. Brackmanman, best line from Sierra for part one.

It has to be that ending line. I think that she, every line that she had, I mean, obviously, like, bury them and put the dirt over them was awesome and very cold.

But that last line was so perfect because it's exactly what's going on. 100%. Courtney Bridal Rush. Why couldn't they give us all three episodes today? Because we need to space it out. And Steele and I need to sleep. Yeah, it's already 1037.

So we're putting in the long hours, but that's what you deserve. I'll save that one for the end because great username and great statement. From Maggie Hoyens, do you think that Sierra's last line calling Amanda week was too harsh? No, not at all. Not at all. Definitely well deserved. No, I think that's what we have to keep in perspective here, especially given how this was. is like, Sierra hasn't even had a chance to address Amanda.

Yeah. This is the first time she gets to say what she needs to say. So she gets to say what she wants to say. Like she should not pull back. If Amanda was going about it the way that we all thought she was going to go about it by just like kind of cowering and crying the whole time, then yeah, I could see some people being like, all right, that was a little harsh. I guess because I don't think it is.

But the way that Amanda came out of the gate, she deserves everything now. 100%. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. she has lost any reason to go even remotely soft on her. If you're going to go at Sierra, like you deserve whatever she's going to give you.

Mm-hmm. From Patian 60. Does Wes say more than 100 words per episode? No. Absolutely. I don't even think he scratches 50, to be honest. Mm-mm. I would love to actually get a word count and not, uh,

and, um. Uh, from JP picks green. did you all see Flash as a promise from Next Gen Summerhouse when Bailey tore up then? I read that wrong at first. I was like, what does next gen have to do with this? But no. So it's for the next generation of Summer House.

Yes, absolutely. I mean, the way that Bailey went after Ben was perfect. 100%. Really bad pictures. Do you agree that West is the biggest coward on Bravo and worse than Sandoval? Yeah, actually. I do. Yeah.

Because he leans so hard into the nice guy thing, even when he's being caught for the nice guy thing. The only time that you've seen him slip is in a couple of confessions when talking about Sierra. He gets a little pissed off and you see the mask slip. That's who this guy is, not this, um, um, um, bumbling moron you're seeing on TV right now. I just saw the username that you love. So I know which question you're going for. Yeah, that's a fantastic one.

Uh, from Annika Green. That timeline is but a candle in the wind. Fly away, Princess Picney and Sir Salouchy. That's great. That's phenomenal. Yesterday, Jones, it was kind of uneventful. What were you named? Did you watch?

Yeah, maybe last year's. That's bewildering. From Jenny Haley. Go ahead. I got one. Quote unquote, I'm taking accountability. It's not the same thing as actually taking accountability, West TD. That's good.

Yeah. I do think that a lot of people, especially on Bravo, we see that all the time. People just say I'm taking accountability or I apologize. And they're like, I apologize, guys. I said sorry. Donia for president. Was West mute as fuck because Amanda was lying about the timeline and he didn't want to F it up? That's what I thought with the statement thing.

I don't think, which is bewildering to me, but not surprising when you think about who's running the show here. I think that the, the, we had sex after the joint statement was 100%. Oh shit. We didn't talk about that. Right after the joint statement or after the joint statement. I don't think they planned. No, no. I really don't think they planned that at all.

from spy cameras s mims in the city why doesn't west use some of his bravo money to hire a PR person or at least a roll of duct tape I don't know what the duct tape would be for

because he already doesn't talk so maybe duct tape removal would probably be better but yes and we've said this pretty much since day one that they both need better PR because whatever the hell they're doing is completely wrong

mm-hmm let's do a couple more in here it's getting too late here this is funny from see hurley 44 bold move to put out a joint statement with your BFF's X before seeing his wiener oh that was the other thing when they showed then they they were circulating the dick pick when a manned over his shoulder to look at the naked picture of west i was like oh i don't like oh yeah worse than watching you guys kiss oh didn't she say he never sent me nudes yes yeah making light of the situation yeah oh god let's do two more in here i know i saw one i'm just having

hard time tracking it back down. There's a lot. It's a lot of people asking the same things. Hotcakes, 1987, this is just nice. From KJ, or from KJ, KJ is a gift from God and for Summerhouse. So glad we get to have him. He is.

Breath of fresh air. Yeah, he really is great. I really, really love KJ. Jade Brianna, that's the one that I was looking for. Why would they lie? Having sex after the statement is somehow worse? They could have just stopped right there. Yeah.

I agree. That's a great way to put it. It makes it less sense. You want to end on your fun one? Yeah, it's a good one to end on. It's been a heavy night. So with that pro-boater, 91 says, go birds. Go birds indeed.

Pro boner also asked a question, do you think Amanda knew about Sierra sleeping over a West, etc. in the fall? I don't think so. No, I don't. Based on the faces that Amanda was making every time that new information came up, either about Meeha or anything going on with Sierra, the fact that they were kissing after the summer.

She seemed very bothered by that. Yeah. Yeah. She also seemed bothered when the couch scene was talked about. It's like I was like that much. It's like, ugh. She was more bothered by those statements than Kyle was about talking about West and Amanda.

Bang. Correct. Correct. Yeah. Oh, boy. Well, everybody hydrate, get some rest. We've got a week until the next one. And if it's anything like this, which I think it's going to be.

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