Bros & Shows - Summer House Spin Off Announced, Nene Back on RHOA? Dolores on RHORI? (NEWS 9/18)
Episode Date: September 18, 2025What's up Bros? We finally caught the news at the right time and we got lots to discuss. The Summer House spin off "In the City" has officially been announced with Lindsay, Andrea and other familiar f...aces. We don't have a lot more info yet but we will keep you updated. With Nene Leaks hosting the after emmys on NBC, are we gearing up for a RHOA return? Dolores looks like she may be more involved with RHORI than we previously had thought. Housewife Swap is also coming soon and we know our cast. Melissa Gorga, Emily Simpson, Angie K and Dr Wendy. While we arent necessarily sold on this show, we are optimistic that Bravo continues to try new things. All that and more on todays news! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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The green screen.
But, yeah.
Oh, fuck, that would be cool if you had a green screen right now.
That would have really landed.
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Can we both have green screens of like the news studio behind us?
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Well, if you're not watching on YouTube, you're missing some really good shit right now because we are literally in news studios.
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We're playing news chicken.
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But anyway,
we are here to cover some news this week.
We were graced by the news gods,
finally.
Usually when we do this, the news drops the day after, but not this time.
This time we actually have some news to report, and we are excited to bring it to you.
What's on the list there, Magoutz?
Well, you know what I realized about that is Bravo tends to release news and trailers and things like that on Wednesdays.
Now, a lot of the other stuff just kind of pops off randomly for social media, but what I've realized is we do it and we've been doing it on Tuesday.
We record Tuesday, it drops Wednesday.
Bravo then drops all of their news, and they do a whole news dump.
on Monday mornings, and we are behind the eight ball.
But now, thanks to Salt Lake and us having screeners,
we were able to do Salt Lake yesterday, and today was news.
So if it flip-flopped, I would have been so furious.
I would have probably just said, let's just do it again.
Just leave that news one up from yesterday.
Let's just do it again.
Yeah, so I'm stoked that we have some things to talk about.
There's one big one.
Do you want to do that one last, the new show in New York City?
Or do you want to do that first?
Yeah, yeah, let's do that.
last we'll get a little warmed up we'll tease that so everybody has to listen to the rest of the
episode fast forward but why would you do that you're going to miss out on some great green screen
stuff lots of green screen bits today lots of green screen bits today but i will go into a new show
which popped up on our radar completely forgot about this thought it was a joke when i
originally saw it about four or five months ago whenever the hell they decided to film this
and that would be the wife swap housewives edition what are your initial thoughts on that i'm going to run
through the cast real quick and then we'll get some initial thoughts here we've got angie k
emily from oc melissa gorga and dr wendy what do you think about that cast what's in three words
or less explain that cast to me oh that's tough okay uh that's three words contractions count
that is yeah i mean i don't hate it right like i i'd angi k i would love to see more of angi k
screen. So I'm not bummed out about that. Dr. Wendy had a phenomenal season last year. So I'm
cool with having more of her on my screen. Melissa is such a flip of a coin. I don't know what we're
going to get. We haven't really seen a Melissa, Sands, Teresa. So I don't know what that looks like.
I don't really know what to expect. I don't know why Emily's on this show. Emily arguably
makes this not watchable for me, just given her performance this year on OC. The format to my
understanding is going to be four separate episodes so they're not going to do the mix and match thing
they're going to do here's angie k's episode here's emily's episode and so on that means you can just
skip the emily episode if you want to i've been calling for this for a while i think probably what
we're going to end up seeing is about an hour and a half long episode which is a two hour block
and they'll release them you know i don't know if they're going to do it every week or every other week
or four in a row they could do whatever the hell they want honestly with the show it's brand new it's something
new, which I'm always going to praise Bravo for because they do need to find new things here and
there. This is honestly the bulk of what we're talking about on this news episode today. But for
this in particular, I'm with you. I think Melissa is a coin flip. If you like her, if you don't like
her, I think that she can be good, but I'm worried because she hasn't been on screen for so long
that she's going to see this as a tryout essentially to stay on the Jersey cast because there's
so much going on with that. We don't know what the hell's going on. I'm worried that this is
going to be, you know, me, I'm Melissa. Of course I'm going to just show up and do the absolute
most. And it might be unwatchable. It could also be very good, because we've seen it happen.
And you and I kind of don't really take much of a stance on the Teresa Melissa bullshit,
mostly because we only covered like two seasons of Jersey, but we still watched a lot of it anyway,
even before we started recording this. I just don't know because I could see it being too much
of a try hard move, but I do think that there is a chance that's really good for that episode.
But I agree with you. Emily's episode is going to stink. And then I think Wendy and,
and Angie Kay are probably going to be really enjoyable. Yeah. And I don't, what's the premise?
Like, are they swapping with each other? Are they swapping with just like normies?
No, they're swapping with. They're swapping with normies. Yeah. So they are swapping.
And doing what, like a day in the life? I guess, essentially, we don't have that much information,
to be honest. Okay. Yeah, they're switching with other other families. Yep. Okay.
They step away from a glamorous high-profile lives and step into the shoes of everyday women with completely different lifestyles, homes, and family dynamics.
Okay.
So, yeah, they go step into our lives, essentially.
I think because now I immediately started second-guessing myself because I had this all kind of mapped out in my brain.
And they released sort of like a teaser trailer.
I think I'm pretty sure, and I'm not, don't quote me on this, but I think Angie and Wendy switch.
so it's going to be interesting with that
I wouldn't mind one switch in like the housewives realm
like I think that would be kind of funny
like we've talked in the past joking about like trades
like should we trade so and so to this franchise
from this franchise so I don't mind that
I think the biggest thing for me is
what you said earlier
I'm never going to shit on shows
that I have not seen if it's a new premise
because I want to see more shows do well on Bravo
I'm glad that they're trying to push the envelope
and get newer shows out there
is this necessarily the route I would have taken?
No, not a housewife swap.
But it's something, you know, we applauded Love Hotel for like the attempt.
It was fine.
Crappy Lake was great.
So these different one-offs are interesting.
I'm curious which one's going to catch, like which show that we have one of these quirky ones?
Or is this just the new Bravo where, you know, every season or every year, we're going to have a new wacky show that's a one-off?
I think that might be where they're heading.
um like we'll have to see if they end up doing a second season of the love hotel i think that
did well enough and i think what they'll end up doing is something that we already talked
about a while ago which is the male version of the love hotel where they just kind of throw
all of the uh the peter pans from southern charm on a show together and a couple captain jason
at the helm and then you got to yeah yeah yeah that's probably something that they'll end up doing
um but i i mean i'm okay with it just because i do think that these one-offs are important because
we rely on housewives you rely on the mainstays they obviously struck gold with something like
southern hospitality southern charm still running summer house is still running that's going to retool
that's a little bit of a teaser for the end of the episode today but with shows like this
i've always said they have the budget it's mbc i know that they were you know a little short in the
pockets so to speak when it came to last year because they had the olympics on mbc so that was a whole
or deal they weren't able to spend as much money as they wanted to on housewives or on bravo and
in particular.
So I think that this is the right move for Bravo because you do want to try to
captivate a younger generation.
You want to try to captivate more fans.
You want to keep people engaged because as it is right now from what I understand,
you've got people that really watch Housewives, people that watch the other shows.
And the people to watch the other shows don't really cross over too much.
I remember when Summer House and Southern Charm used to cross over,
people who only watched Summer House were wondering who the Southern Charm people were.
It's interesting.
It is a really weird situation that they have brewing.
And if you can do this where you get, you know, people who are really big fans of, say, Melissa,
because she's probably the most captivating on this cast, if you get somebody who's a huge fan of Melissa
who just doesn't watch Salt Lake and loves Angie Kay, maybe that person's going to start watching Salt Lake.
So I think this is a really smart move.
It's sort of, I would say, in the same realm as an Ultimate Girl's Trip type of thing where you get this going on.
But it's a little bit quirkier and I think a little bit funnier, honestly, because Ultimate
Girl's Trip, you know, I was never a fan of it.
The first three episodes of Ultimate Girl's trip were them just talking about their time on housewives, what they did.
And then finally, we would get to like some sort of drama.
And then the season would pretty much be over.
And they'd be like, all right, see, never.
And then move on.
So you never really got anything from that.
The Bluestone Manor one was just a tryout for Dorinda.
And giving her the keys to the kingdom for that one was a drastic mistake because it literally turned into her, just trying to force herself back into the Brahmosphere.
Then the next one we did, we stopped because it became all about.
about Giselle's tequila bottle.
We're like,
who gives this shit?
What are we doing?
Yeah.
So,
and then, of course,
the fabled ultimate girl's trip that never was.
And I win green screen chicken.
Yeah.
Oh,
yeah.
I was getting the biggest headache.
I was getting the biggest headache.
I swear,
I told you I was going to have an aneurysm at some point.
My microphone was popping in and out and I was getting scared of my own microphone.
So it's never,
if you're a podcaster,
do you start getting scared of your microphone.
That's not a good move.
No,
it's not.
But I'll eat this stuff.
I don't even know what I said the last like four minutes.
I was just staring at the screen and rambling.
Yeah, well, it worked.
It sounded good.
But all in all, like, I'm excited to see what it is.
You know, obviously there's a lot of chatter out there.
It's not like, I haven't heard a lot of people like super stoked for it.
But I'm never going to knock them for trying something.
Like, give it a shot.
We'll see what we got.
Like, Crappy Lake, I had no, no thoughts that it was going to be good.
And it was amazing.
I really love that show.
So if they can find some and just keep throwing shit against the wall and land every once in a while with one of those, like that's good enough for me.
I do think that they need, and this is another teaser for later, but we need one new nas, like if we get another mainstay on this with Southern hospitality on the rise, Southern Charm still cooking, that changes the dynamics a little bit because I think, and we've talked about this a lot, the new setup.
in our opinion, lean heavier into the non-housewives shows.
Yeah, for sure.
Because those seem to be landing better with the younger, newer audience.
Housewives are a mainstay.
We don't want the housewives gone.
That's not what I'm saying at all.
Do not get my words twisted.
I think while they're trying to map out this new generation of housewives,
that they seem to be stumbling through a little bit as they're trying to recast,
retool, you know, put on pause.
Like they haven't really figured out the new formula yet.
But while they're doing that,
keep trying to do some one-off shows, find some quirky 20-somethings in a bar working together,
like do VPR LA, like, aren't they doing that?
They are doing VPR, yeah.
Right.
So, like, there's the same thing.
They're still going to be working in Sir, so.
Oh, really?
Well, that's, yeah, that's right.
That's fine.
Like, I'm okay with that.
If they're able to find a captivating young audience, that show worked.
And that's another thing that I'm a big proponent of.
If you have something that works, because, you know, we don't like to compare Southern
hospitality to Vanderpump Rules anymore.
like it's not the same show in any way, shape, or form.
The setup initially was similar as far as the dynamic goes, and bang, it worked.
So we have something that works.
Let's try to repeat this model until it doesn't work and then shift rather than try
to rewrite the wheel, remake the wheel, then do something totally random off the cuff.
So all that to say, I'm glad that we're trying things and we'll see what we got.
I don't know.
I think that a format exactly like this when it comes to wife swap has an expiration date.
You're going to run out of fascinating housewives, whether they're current housewives or older housewives.
You're going to run out of a slate at some point.
And then what are you going to do?
You're going to have Shep trying to, you know, husband swap with somebody.
Like that doesn't.
Oh, that actually.
I don't know.
But you know what I mean.
You know what I mean when it comes to that words.
Yeah, that's a really good example of a good show.
Joe Gorga.
Joe Corga, yeah, where you're going to get somebody who's like, all right, we've run our course here.
We don't want to do this anymore.
But what they need to do until they can figure out their housewives, which the franchise across the board is pretty much a mess outside of two shows, while they're figuring all that out is throw shit at the wall.
Just literally throw everything at the wall with people that you have under contract, with people that we like, that we haven't seen in a little while.
if it's somebody like Melissa or you bring back
somebody like Durinda, I don't care who it might be,
but let them come back onto our screen
in a different capacity. That's always going to work.
It's always going to draw some sort of attention
and more than anything what you need right now
is to fill the gaps.
You can only do so many below decks.
You can't have seven, eight, nine, ten below decks going on at the time
because your housewife franchise is in dysfunction at this point.
Just so we have something to watch over the summer.
It doesn't make any sense.
These shows, and this show doesn't premiere
until October 14th.
But these shows are ripe for the summer.
You have one housewife franchise going and you've got a below deck and then you have
two other things that are just completely random and fun and quirky that people are going to
tune into when they're not watching Love Island.
Like that's what we need in the downtime.
And then you get your meat and potatoes when it comes to the fall and the winter because
everybody's inside watching TV.
Those are your big hitters.
That makes the most sense to me.
So the fact that they're at least trying this and this is now what year three that we've
been telling them to do something like this.
It seems good to me.
It seems like they're moving in the right direction.
I don't really care if this show fails
because at least it says to me that they're trying something.
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and we'll just wait and see what we got.
But let's keep trucking.
What do we got next?
Let's see which direction we want to go in here.
We've got two new shows.
I'm going to go abroad for the first one.
Maybe you watched it.
Maybe you didn't.
Ladies of London is coming back.
And it's a new rain is what they're calling it.
Nobody from the original ladies of London because, well,
Real Housewives of London actually has one of them.
I think it was Juliet, who was on it.
And obviously, yeah.
Oh, Stanberry's not.
Caroline Stamberry was on it.
Nope.
She's not on either of these.
This, from what I understand,
Ladies of London,
New Rain is going to be
all new ladies of London.
Whether they're actually from London,
who knows,
because that was a big gripe
of the original series,
of course.
But for this in particular,
and actually,
no, Housewives of London, too.
There's a couple that aren't even
from London, which is funny.
But for this,
it's going to be on Bravo.
It's not going to be on Huyu.
It's not going to be on Peacock.
It's going to be on Bravo.
I think that's coming out
a little bit later this fall,
maybe early winter,
and we don't really know a whole lot about it honestly
it's already stirring up some things because they decided to
drop the teaser trailer drop the announcement at the same time
as ladies or housewives of London was premiering
so that's fun that's a little caddy I like that
let's see what we got ladies of London new rain
but I didn't watch the original one obviously I know that
Stanberry came from that I've seen apparently the original one
is one of like the fan favorites people say ladies of London
is like a top tier show
show. Yeah. Yeah. So I've definitely seen a few episodes pretty much because Peacock decides,
oh, you just finished watching Real Housewives of Orange County. Here's Ladies of London. This
works. Actually, more so, I was probably after Dubai. Yeah, so no confirmed premiere date yet.
Obviously, they released the teaser this month is what this says. I haven't seen it yet.
Focuses on British Blue Bloods, ambitious American expats and glamorous international socialites.
And it explores what it means to have status in modern London navigating tradition versus the demands of the globalized world.
I'm, I'm into it.
I think it's going to be good.
I think that, you know, I am always going to root for doing some shows outside of the U.S.
Because I do think that the location, the culture adds a fascinating aspect to it.
You're going to bring up.
You know exactly what I'm going to bring up.
They, they screwed that up.
Bravo did, the cast did, like the Real Housewives of Dubai should have been better.
What were you going to?
What were you thinking?
I was going to say real girlfriends of Paris.
Oh, that one I loved.
Yeah.
I loved Real Girlfriends of Paris.
Bravo screwed that one up.
Yeah, I don't know why that didn't come back.
Like, nobody watched it because they didn't promote it at all.
They absolutely panicked.
They didn't promote it at all.
It was on like a prime time too.
I think it was like a Thursday night show.
It was after, I think the first episode was probably like right after us.
salt lake episode or something it worked out perfectly nobody really watched it but like we look at
southern hospitality yeah it's backed by leva who you know who's been on southern charm for a few years
but southern hospitality didn't do that well in the beginning either you and i watched it from jump
told everybody to watch it people eventually started watching it by season two now we're going
into season four of that show and it's huge and everybody can't wait for that to come back real
girlfriends of paris was enjoyable it was campy it was in paris which you know people can get a glimpse into
the city life over there and it was mostly all expats from america who were over there just
trying to navigate it was a little bumpy it like the road was a bit bumpy it was kind of first
season ship it was it was unfinished and that's okay because they didn't know what they were doing and
i don't even think the producers knew what they were doing but they panicked and as soon as they saw
those ratings by the end of the season we just never heard of it again i know dude and it's a shame
like if you go back and watch that it's a great if you're bored on a rainy day and you're like
I don't know what to watch.
Throw it on.
It's just,
it's comforting.
It's a very good comfort show.
The way that they do it throughout the city,
I love that this has turned into promotion for real girlfriends of Paris.
Why not?
We've done it in a while.
Around,
like the city,
like you get like to really dive into the culture,
but what they did better than Dubai is the whole show is not about Paris.
It shows about them in Paris.
What Dubai did relentlessly was remind us that they're in Dubai and money and Dubai and
money and more Dubai. It's like, we know what about you? Dubai finally fixed that. Dubai fixed that by
the last season that aired. And that was their best season. And the people that watched it that actually
stuck it out, which we did not stick it out, but I still watched a good amount of it. It was so much
better in that last season. It drops. It goes to the reunion. We're hearing all these things going on.
A lot of rumors starting. And then all of a sudden, see ya. Canceled. Like it didn't make any sense.
And pretty much, even the housewives of Dubai were like, we didn't know that this was coming. We thought
that we had at least another couple of years to figure this out. And I thought that they had
figured it out. So it's just, it just kind of goes to show you that if you're not OC, if you're not
New York, you know, they're still putting that on pause and we're hearing that they're adding new
housewives to the mix and they're going to keep some of the new ones, but it's not going to be
the old ones that everybody still's clamoring for. Like, it's New York. Just who cares? It's the
same thing. Like it's not working. Put it on pause. Bring the old people back. I don't care what
happens. Just do something with it. They could have done.
something with Dubai. I know, you know, production cost is probably insane to film in Dubai.
Maybe that had something to do with it. But at least give us like some sort of reasoning as to
what happened. Yeah, because we were getting a lot of comments and messages about why are you guys
not doing Dubai? Why are you guys not doing Dubai? And at that point, it was like halfway through
the seasons. So we're like, look, if it's this good next year, like we're in. And by the
reunion, everybody was talking about it. Like a lot of shit popped off. And everyone's like,
oh, do buy this, do buy that. And then like you said, bang.
got whacked. So I we never know what's going on behind the scenes over there. Like it never really
makes sense some of the moves they make. It seems like there's clear paths forward a lot and they
decide to go hard left away from them. But back to ladies of London, like I'm in. I want to see
the social scene in London. I want to see the like aristocratic scene in London. Forget some of that.
Like that stuff's fascinating to me. I think it's really interesting, especially the culture over
there so like i'm in but what i need from them to do well is okay first few episodes like bring us
in get us comfortable with the setting talk about your life there all of that good stuff the
culture blah blah blah but then we need to dive into some characters right i need to learn about
the people on the show and that's where dubai crashed and burn season one so hard because they
just kept leaning on the city they kept leaning on the city it didn't fucking work so i'm excited for this
one. And I think that coming off of its predecessor, which is very, very highly touted,
it's going to have watchers. People are going to be excited for it. It's all about can they land
the plane or are they going to do a Dubai and do a hard left? I don't know. But I will say I'm
excited for this to come back. Yeah. It's something to keep an eye on for because we do not
know when that's coming out. As you already said, there's no release date. But something that we
do have an idea of when this might come back. And by comeback, I mean actually make its premiere. And
That's Rhode Island, which we have heard, no, we have, you know, they finished filming.
And you know how I know that they finished filming today?
No.
Paul, Pauly, Dolores's husband, I don't know if they ever got married.
He posted a picture of him and Dolores saying, filmed, wrapped, all, everything's all done.
Rhode Island, you're in for a special treat.
It's just like Jersey.
So that says a few things to me.
Yeah, that is bad.
it says a few things to me one we were trying to figure out what dolores's role was going to be on that show maybe she's just you know uh the matriarch or whatever to show them the ropes she's going to be in the first scene it's her friend and then it's her friend's group of friends from Rhode Island I'm getting the vibe that she's in this a lot more than we thought if we get it it's either that or she's a producer on it maybe she's got it like an EP credit you hear anything about that I mean that that would be something that would pop up when it premieres but
I don't know if they would even tell us that before the premiere.
I could see that potentially being the case,
but it still screams to me that she's in this show a lot more than what I thought.
I'm okay with that.
Like I like Dolores,
you know,
separate from Jersey.
Like that show just went so far south so quickly.
I'm cool with having,
and I always love the cheesy,
you know,
leap into the next franchise like they did with,
uh,
Vanderpump to the Valley.
Like I like that stuff.
for whatever reason i know it's corny but i like it so i i will always agree with let's bring
in a vet that we know so people will tune in to see dolores and then maybe get hooked on
some of the other ladies it's like i'm into that that's interesting and that makes a lot of sense
if they're still trying to figure out what to do with jersey and they're like you know what
we got dolores under contract she's with the network let's fucking bring her up there and
and add her to the mix just to drum up some some press for this whole thing
thing like i'm i'm down for that even if she's in the whole season like i'm okay yeah yeah so they
they finish filming and as we know from housewife shows starts a clock three four months later i
would imagine we're looking at maybe a january 2026 release for something like that and feb that's
crazy yeah talking about this shit for a long time they've been talking about it for so long but
we've heard so many different rumors about different cities i mean remember over the summer we were
talking about them filming a real housewives yeah cleveland real housewives at a cubs game in
Chicago and nobody really knew anything about it.
We heard similar things about Rhode Island before they actually announced it.
They announced it back, I believe it was in June or late May when they released that
entire slate of all the shows that were coming out.
Yeah, I remember that.
And they just kind of threw that one in there.
We didn't really know what to think about it.
And then we started hearing that Dolores was there.
So they've been building it for a little while and they just finished filming.
So I don't know.
I'm excited about it because it's a new Housewife franchise.
That's really the only thing.
and if people are still you know clamoring for new housewives why not try to dive into this one
especially if it's not up against you know everything everything that we're watching right now
is going to be gone so it's going to be up against maybe the tail end of the potomac season
maybe the beginning of atlanta something could be the tail end of salt lake uh yeah it's probably
true salt lake just started they might honestly if they're smart they'll leapfrog it after salt lake
I see you get the feeling whenever we're talking about shows because like Miami this is the 16th episode you can go back 16 weeks do you feel like your life is just kind of flying by but like it's encapsulated by seasons of housewife shows oh yeah way wait that's yeah I've had this thought process before where I'm like my whole year accelerating to my death based on when a housewife was on via housewife franchises no I've had this
same exact thought in my head where it's like my year is mapped out on when a season starts
and when a season finishes and that's like it breaks my year up into like anywhere from three to five
segments and then my daughter was born on the reunion episode of Salt Lake and then we got into this
like you can legitimately if if you have a child born or maybe you get a dog or a cat or something
and you kind of just map it to where it was in the season of the housewife show that you're watching
you can trace back by weeks on where exactly how old that person or animal is.
Yeah.
Or it's terrible.
It's crazy.
Well,
it's no,
it really is only because like we'll get to the end of a season.
And I'm like,
God,
this feels like we've been doing this for like forever.
And you're like,
well,
it's been four and a half months.
I'm like,
oh,
fuck.
And then where the panic sets in of the accelerated timeline of our lives and
slowly crawling towards our death is the fact that I didn't really.
realize that it had already been four and a half months.
Where did those months go?
I'll tell you where they went,
talking about fucking Emily and Gina from OC.
10 weeks.
That's 70 days that we've been talking about Gina and Emily.
Don't do it like that.
That's even crazier.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I don't like that.
It sucks.
Yeah.
Wow.
It's not great.
I love our job.
To be fair,
yeah,
our job's great,
obviously.
And by the time that Salt Lake is over,
If that's January, we're going to be looking back, like, why can't we have more of the show?
We tend to really do it when it's an OC season and it's 18 episodes.
And we're like, Jesus Christ, like, it's almost half a year, just bitching about OC.
That's our lives.
So sometimes that's our lives.
Sometimes we want more.
It just depends on the show.
So do better, Bravo.
Well, that's the other thing.
Well, hold on.
The other part is when they're really good, time flies.
Oh, yeah.
So it's like a double-edged sword.
The bad shows it's slowly crawling to our depths.
We're hurtling to our deaths.
Now we're sprinting.
But with a smile on our face.
I'd rather die fast with a smile than die slow, sad.
Wow, really existential stuff going on right now.
Yeah, make a t-shirt.
Bang.
What's next?
My son,
my son is a season.
When your son or daughter hits 18 weeks, your son or daughter is a full season of real housewives.
Mm-hmm.
when you hit 21 you are no 21 weeks is a full season there you go because you got to count the
reunions there you unless it's a bad season right around like five months my son's five months old
oh my son is also five months old but i choose to say my son is an entire season of real housewives
my son is one real housewives of beverly hills old oh Jesus that that's a full year that's
yeah that's two years old anyway we can't keep going down this road but what's next
I don't want to.
Let's just move on.
This one's a little more fun because we keep doing this and we keep talking about her
and we're just trying to figure out if she's going to be back on a real housewife show.
And that's needy because she was found hosting the after Emmys on NBC.
So she's done this before.
This isn't the first time she's done this because I've seen it before.
But I don't think she did it last year.
And if I'm wrong about that, somebody in the comments can let us know.
But showing her again on NBC, we've seen.
seen her come back she's talking to people she's on like radio andy it just looks like she's
gonna figure things out and they're gonna get her back because they sorely need her and they need
they always need people like that i don't even care what your thoughts on on atlanta really were
if you really think that they can run it back with that that's fine but if you have somebody
sitting out there in nini think about it like lisa barlow is not on salt lake city we just had
an episode release barlo wasn't on salt lake city but they talked about it the whole time
But if she wasn't on the show
And the show's still great
But you have Lisa Barlow sitting out there
You still want her back in the mix
You still want to throw her back in there
Nini's the same way
I don't care if you really think that Atlanta's really good
If Nini's out there and she's available
You're going to throw her in
Of course you are and you're going to watch it
And you're going to watch the shit out of it
When she does inevitably go back in
So we're going to keep on looking at those things
Whenever I see something that raises an eyebrow
NeNe's doing something
NBC adjacent.
She's doing something Bravo adjacent.
We're going to throw her into the news segment because we want it to happen.
And if we talk about it, you guys talk about it, other people talk about it.
Bravo finally hears you.
I don't think that they really monitor socials.
They only monitor ratings.
They definitely monitor socials.
They just don't care what we want.
They just, they tend to think that we're wrong.
Like, oh, yeah.
That's what they do.
They see the comments and they go, oh, yeah, well, watch this.
they weren't expecting this and it's even worse like that's that's what happens and it's bringing
gretchen back to o see exactly that's the move bring bring a tamra friendly gretchen back to ocee great
idea this is awesome you must have thought too to get into our news episode that you were going to be
uh get out scott green we were going to come after oc no the poor people that are enjoying
oc this season oh they've they've let it be known in the car in our reviews
All four of them left a one star.
Hey, when you guys, I don't know what to see.
Yeah, we don't like it.
I don't know what to tell you.
I have no issues with you liking it.
You know, I'm not talking about you.
I'm talking about this show.
Yeah, just listen to us and get a different opinion.
And then we'll tell you why your opinion's wrong.
It's just funny to me that a differing opinion equals a one star review.
That's always going to be funny.
It's like, I don't agree with you.
Bang, I'm going to affect your livelihood.
That doesn't really, but yeah.
No, no, not at all.
like they're funny don't leave them because we think yeah no don't do it because it's funny
unless it's a really funny joke then I'll laugh about it yeah we do we do tend to send them
back and forth sometimes like randomly like a really funny one we'll send it but uh yeah always but
nini like again you know when you have an all star that is willing to come back you bring them
back and this is kind of what we've been seeing across the board with other franchises is in
this mode that they're scrambling to figure out how to fix things, they are leaning on some of
the vets again.
And I think that's the easiest move.
I think that's the right move.
I think eventually you're going to bring the right person back to their OG franchise and
it's going to land.
That could very well be Nini Leaks.
I think they hoped that that would be with Fajra on Atlanta.
And maybe the original plan was to bring Nini back that season, but maybe it just didn't
work out scheduling wise.
Maybe they wanted to see how Fager did first because the whole five episode Fager thing still
random as shit. I'm glad she's back on the show. I'm excited for next season. But if you get
Fager back in there, you get Nini back in there, I think Kenya's probably cooked for a while.
But I didn't mind that cast other than one person. So I think Nini at the helm of that,
that might work. You know, I think that she's ready to come back. She's been even separate from
her relationship being mended with Andy. Like she's been doing that podcast with Crystal from
Beverly Hills. So I think that she has enough of a foot back in the Bravo world,
and then they're putting her back on NBC for the after Emmy show. We're starting to see her
a lot more. We're definitely hearing about her all the time. So I think that it, this to me tells me
she's back. And I think they're going to probably do it in a later season rollout, probably not as
late as Fadra. You're going to do Fadra. No, I would say like episode three, you're going to get
a Nini Leaks return to the screen. That would be my guess.
I think that would work perfectly, honestly.
And if she's willing to come back, why not?
Absolutely.
She's one of the greatest all time.
Do that instead of doing an ultimate girl's trip or something or whatever else you're going to do.
I'm okay with that.
If we're going to budget for Bravo and I'm going to go ahead and look at the expense report,
if I've got NeNeat up here or a potentially one-off, whatever season of Ultimate Girl's trip,
I'm going to take NeNey.
I mean, it's probably the same price.
Let's be very honest right now.
So we're out there.
Why not?
It's going to bring many of your huge franchises all the way back
because the people that tuned out
because they just don't really care anymore about Atlanta
are going to tune immediately back in.
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think about it 90% of bravo memes that i see are nini leaks reactions yep like 90% of them
and they're always funny so like do the that's that's the mantra for bravo
for the rest of this year and 2026, do the easy thing.
Just try it.
Try not to get in your conference room and figure out the sneaky thing that no one's expecting.
It's not working.
Do the obvious thing.
It's probably going to work better.
That's the new mantra for the next year and a half.
How about that?
I'm a huge fan of that mantra.
Yeah, that's just, if it works, fucking do it.
Okay?
And if it doesn't, that's the other thing.
It's like, if it doesn't work, no one's going to fault you for bringing NeNey back.
It's like, it's a win-win.
If it doesn't land, it doesn't land.
It's not the end of the world.
No one's going to be pissed off that you tried to bring back one of the greatest, right?
So I hope she's back.
I agree.
Well, here's something that certainly will work.
And we got the announcement today.
We borderline predicted this.
Summer House spinoff.
It's called In the City, which really just hits you over the head with exactly what the premise of this show
going to be good and it really works for a couple of idiots who have been screaming into
their microphones watching summer house for the last three four years saying do more shit in the
city here's a whole fucking show about the show about your friends from the summer house in the city
we knew about it obviously lindsay's been teasing it for months at this point we knew she was
going to be in it obviously there's some other pieces that need to settle who are the other castmates
from the look of it did you get to watch the uh the teaser trailer i did
Okay. So from the look of it, it sounds like Amanda and Kyle are going to be involved. Everybody's kind of confirming that. Andrea, we talked about a couple of weeks ago. Him and his wife Lexi are going to be in it as well. To what capacity we're not sure. The main focus is going to be Lindsay. I don't know what the rest of the show is going to look like. Obviously, you get a very plain description of what's going to happen here. It's, you know, aging people trying to figure out their way in the city with. Aging people. Aging people. Aging.
People sounds so mean.
It does sound mean, but how else are you supposed to describe people that go from, you know,
30 to 40 something's figure it out in the city.
Yeah, that doesn't sound great.
I'm just more so doing it as like a, you know, it's a graduation from the summer house.
Let's call it.
That sounds better.
How about that?
Sounds nice.
Aging people try to figure it out in New York City.
We're all aging.
We're all aging a little bit at a time, one housewife show at a time at this point.
Yeah, we've got through that already kind of run through.
Do you want to go back through that?
No.
I knew we can.
We can.
But I do when I ask you, what do you think about this?
It's called in the city.
They're going to be in the city.
Who's going to be in it from your perspective?
Who do you expect to see?
What do you expect to see?
I think it's going to work regardless because everybody's been clamoring for this.
Like I said, we talked about it years ago saying that this could be an easy move for them to do.
Try to get some fresh blood in the summer house.
I saw somebody today say that they wanted Silas on it.
I can't remember what his wife's name is.
Remember Silas from Martha's Vineyard?
No, Jasmine's his wife.
No, Jasmine was absolutely.
You can bring Jasmine back.
She was delightful.
Silas is an asshole.
Jasmine was delightful.
Silas sucked.
And I saw somebody actually post that today.
And I could not believe my eyes.
But anyway.
Silas probably posted that today.
With the people that were specifically getting with Lindsay, Kyle and Amanda,
not really sure what their role in Summerhouse is going to be if this is going to be the last season.
But we'll digress from that.
And then Andre and Lexi, what are you expecting?
I'm expecting kind of a housewifey vibe as far as like bopping from person to person.
That's what I'm expecting.
Now, the other option, and I've thought about this too, is it's a Lindsay-centric show.
And it's people that we know coming in and out of that life.
Maybe you have a short plot line for one of the people that comes in where it's like a two or three episode arc and then they're back out.
And I think that that honestly is not a bad format because you bring people in to that group that
you already know and the summer house list i mean i'm telling you right now we're going to get
hannah burner back on here for at least one or two episodes i really don't think that
bridge far enough i don't i think if we see page in my opinion i think we're going to see her
briefly i don't think page is going to be on this season that much at all if even at all honestly
should i would be surprised we don't get a came i know their schedules like insane yeah a cameo for
sure but i think it'll just be page i don't think bravo once hannah i don't think hannah really even
really wants Bravo right now.
I just don't really see her making her way there.
And again, if it's Paige, she'll be there for a quick blip, a quick quote when it comes
down to it.
And then I think she'll just move on.
And she might be able to move.
She's got too much going on.
She might join the show in a year or two, maybe three years.
But I do think she's going to take a full hiatus from reality TV based on what we've
seen of her schedule.
Yeah.
I mean, with Giggly Squad pretty much going on a world tour, it seems like, or national
tour at the very least, where they're doing like every corner of the,
the country i imagine the next step would be international she's like big time now she's doing
commercials like she's gone the route of ariana not to that level yet but she's starting to
be the next person to take that route so that calls into question obviously can you afford page
which probably not but at the same time i would imagine we'll see her i would think for at least an
episode i don't think it's going to be just a quote but regardless with the core group we have
I mean, shit, you can bring Luke back for a couple.
You can bring a lot of people in that you know.
I'm not saying I need Luke back on my screen.
My point is you have a large standing is with Bravo anyway.
I don't know.
My point there is that's just to name a name.
We have a large pool of people that we are familiar with from this franchise.
And being in New York as well, you can start to dip into other ones too.
Like, let's say some of the Southern Charm guys are up for the weekend.
Bang, we see them in that.
But I think that it's one of two routes.
We're either going to get a main cast, multiple.
Lindsay's probably still going to be at the helm,
but it's going to be multiple people.
We're going to pop around to their daily lives in the city,
them interacting with one another,
the fallout and drama from that,
or it's going to be a Lindsay show,
and we follow her around,
and we see some of her castmates come in and out of that.
Either one, I'm 100% in on.
I think it could boil down to whether or not Amanda and Kyle
are going to continue to do Summerhouse,
because I don't see a world in which they do both full-time,
and if they're part of this announcement, which they pretty much were,
I know a lot of people are kind of reading into it,
but it's a lot of people that have inside information
that have maybe talked to somebody at NBC.
They've mentioned that Kyle and Amanda are definitely going to be on it.
I think it really might be those five people that we already mentioned,
with Lindsay, Kyle, Amanda, Lexi, and Andrea in the city,
doing exactly what you said, going from scene to scene,
everybody gets their own thing, then they all kind of come together.
We have a couple of friend ofs, if you want to call it that.
I don't really like calling friend ofs.
in an ensemble cast, but here we are.
I think that's pretty much what it's going to be, though.
I think it's really just going to follow those five for the first year.
I think Kyle and Amanda are probably going to move on from Summerhouse after the season
that airs probably in February, I would imagine.
After that, I assume that they're done, they've moved to the city.
Then they get to move on with their lives.
And they're on a show still, which is the best of both worlds for them.
They still get their final send-off.
Lindsay gets her send-off this year.
The real question for me is, are we going to add Kyle to the, or Kyle?
Are we going to add Carl to the mix?
because Carl's going to be a little interesting in the midst of a Lindsay-centric show.
Obviously, Lindsay would have to sign off on it, but it seems like, I know she already had her baby,
but it seems like this show is kind of her baby.
I think that maybe season two, Carl's an easy plug and play.
Like, I don't think that there's anything wrong with that.
I think the further away you get from the engagement and on engagement,
the more copacetic they're going to be.
And especially after a summer together again, like we haven't seen what that
looks like, but I would imagine that, because we saw glimpses last season, obviously there was
tension because it was six months removed, but they were still able to be fairly amicable for the
majority. We saw a couple of spats here and there because somebody said something stupid, but all
in all, they were pretty respectful of each other. I imagine that's only going to grow more and more,
especially with a child involved now. I think that takes a lot of the pressure off as well.
There's not going to be any awkwardness because it's such as it's night and day from what they were.
like she's now a mom it's not going to be as tense i don't think and carl's off he's got soft bar now
so he's got something to focus on for the time being so i i think he's easy to bring on to that show
it does call into question the future of summer house is that now west and jesse
well that's that's what i was just going to ask you that at this point with in the city being announced
in the fallout of everything from that show assuming kyle and amanda move on assuming karl moves on
because of Kyle and Amanda and Lindsay aren't there,
Carl really shouldn't be there anymore.
Sierra,
I think she'll probably come over as well
because she is pretty close with Lindsay at this point.
What do you think the summer house looks like moving forward
with this announcement,
with this show kind of taking away a couple of the key components of that show?
I think the best way to do it would be have the OG cast for the next two years,
which is doable because you can film both,
because they go back and forth from the city to the,
the summer house so that's feasible and you just force feed us new people i don't care who
and you can whack them halfway through the season and bring somebody else you got to find
three that's it three people that we love and you you jump them in with west and jesse if sierra
wants to stay by all means she can stay page obviously on to bigger and better things lindsies on to
her own show so i do think there's a format in which it works you need people there that we know we've
seen what happens when he try to launch an old franchise with a brand new cast,
people, whether it's good or not, it's kind of irrelevant because a lot of people tap out
because their favorite's not on it. So to make this transition smoothly, you have to ease it off.
Like, you can start to pluck people away, but not entirely. Maybe they're on the show less
and somebody else takes more of a stance forward. Is West going to be the new Kyle of the
summer house? I don't see that. He's not that kind of role. But that's the biggest piece you got to
find because whether you want to agree or not, whether you like it or not, Carl, sorry, Kyle is pivotal
on that show. He is the cornerstone of Summerhouse. And again, it doesn't matter how you feel about
and that's just a fact. So you got to find who's going to take that role. You know, and it could be
somebody from this cast. It could be one of the ladies from this cast. It could be one of the dudes from
this cast. I don't know looking at it from what we've seen over the past few years. I don't see
anybody on that cast right now that is that guy or that guy i don't see no they're not and i and obviously
kyle sort of evolved into that he wasn't always that guy but it worked out really well when that show
started and i would say even going back as far as the first season lindsay and kyle were sort of the
yin and yang of that show that's what they need to figure out in my opinion if you're going to roll out
which i think they're going to but if you're going to roll out with west and jesse you're going to lose
pretty much every girl on that cast everybody else is moving out they're going away lexie already
announced that she's not coming back we've lost like four or five women over the last four or five seasons
that have just disappeared like sam where we just never saw them again and we didn't really bring her back
bring her back and that's well i don't think that she would want to come back i think she just got engaged
and she lives in a different city but like if you brought her and olivia from southern charm and put
them in i'm in for that i don't think that that's what they want to do no i i'm just saying
that well i don't think sam's going to do it anyway because she already got like i said she's already
i think she got married too actually so she's pretty much out but along those lines sure i think
that they really need to figure out the female portion of that cast if you're going to keep west
and jesse because you've you've lost every other woman we have gabby gabby will still be there
so you got gabby west and jessey as i don't and sierra maybe we don't know seattle
Sarah hasn't made any announcements, but she makes much more sense in the Lindsay show in the city than she does in the new summer house.
I don't see a world in which Gabby or Sierra stay on that show, if it's West and Jesse.
It just doesn't really make a whole lot of sense.
Now, the original summer house started because it was, oh, yeah, we've got a bunch of friends kind of just going to a house on the Hamptons.
I'm sure Jesse and West have friends, but then you're giving them too much control.
I like West.
Jesse, I'm not really sold on at all, especially after last.
season. I don't think that either of them can carry a season. I don't think that either of them
can carry a show. So they do have a lot of things to figure out, is this why they canceled
Martha's Vineyard? Are they going to start pumping in the people that they had from Martha's Vineyard?
I'm okay with it. We know from Summerhouse. So there are some things that they can do and there are
some people that we know. I think, honestly speaking, if you have the core cast just kind of moving
on to the city, I think it makes the most sense to scrap everybody from that show and start
fresh with the newcast.
I don't think that you need to keep anybody from the Bravoverse, anybody that's started
there or has crossed over or whatever, just throw a whole new cast there and let them
work it out.
Let them have their growing pains that usually work out for a show.
Yeah, I think it's going to be an interesting thing to watch.
And I'm curious what I think the summer house this season is going to tell us a lot.
I think we're going to see a lot more that's going to tell us kind of what direction we're moving
in based on who's on the screen more.
If they're smart, they're going to highlight who's going to return to the
summer house.
As the end of the season, I would imagine, if I'm a betting man, we're going to roll
from Summerhouse into in the city.
That would make sense to me.
And you get that crossover scene that I already talked about and bang, now we're
in the city with Lindsay.
So I think that you're going to see early on in the season more so of who's
coming back later on in the season is going to lean a little bit heavier on the
next show and the biggest thing that this season needs to have is at least two captivating
newcomers two people that were like ooh i like oh i like this girl that can take place of some
of these veterans that have been on the show that are moving on and obviously bravo being
bravo and the bravoverse being what it is we'll start to get some leaks for too long like
we'll start to hear about who's going to definitely be on the show we'll definitely learn like
what the format of the show is and what that means for Summerhouse.
But I do think if you try to do this too fast and pull everybody out of Summer House,
you're going to have an issue.
I do really like the idea of bringing in some Martha's Vineyard people.
I loved Martha's Vineyard.
I thought that that was a show that should have continued.
I'm bummed out that it didn't.
Now, if they have a second life and you bring four people from Martha's Vineyard to the Summerhouse,
I think that works.
There's multiple, multiple people on that cast,
the majority of that cast,
that would vibe very well with the summerhouse crew.
So just combine it all into one summer house.
Like, again, let's do the easy thing.
And unfortunately,
a lot of people didn't watch Summer House Martha's Vineyard.
We watched both seasons and thoroughly enjoyed ourselves
while doing it.
There are some good people on that show,
like really good castmates that could have an impact
in the actual summer house.
So I think that that's a great idea.
You can even mix up more, say goodbye to the Summer House that we've known for however many seasons.
Here's the, we're moving to the other side of the Hamptons, new house, new cast,
and have the old cast kind of hand off the torch gradually over the next couple of years
so that we're not just punched in the face with a new cast because you're going to piss off a lot of people
that have their favorites that are now gone.
So your viewership of in the city is going to skyrocket and then Summerhouse is going to plummet.
And that's what we have to try to avoid.
I would honestly even consider moving out of the Hamptons entirely because they can even film it half of those places.
That's a good point too.
And that was such a good mainstay of the show early on.
Now, obviously, we do have the castmates that we love.
So it didn't really matter as much.
And obviously, we had a themed party every weekend.
But that kind of worked and then it didn't work.
And then it would get stale and then it was okay, just depending on what the dynamic was between everybody and the cast.
But you can't go out with them anymore.
We just see them leave and then see them come back.
and then it's this and that and whatever and you get time stamps and it's like well what did you do last night we don't get to see any of it because you're tired of like a shoddy phone video of something drunk like flailing it around yeah and it just doesn't really hit the same way so i'm not saying don't go to mon talk because that's just like influence or heaven and it's not fun they're swanky short point there's got to be something in north jersey that probably works that would love to have them i'm not saying seaside hudson
I'm saying, you know, up in, what is it, Red Bank, I think has, is that like a
shranky place?
I don't know.
I don't know what I know about Jersey geography unless it's South Jersey.
Like Martha's Vineyard works, but again, that one's tough because of the commute.
And that was their big issue with their cast as it was two weeks straight through, which
is a different, like Summer House works so well because they get a breather from each other.
So it, like with Summer House Martha's Vineyard, it was two straight weeks of them being in the
same house so it's a different dynamic so it would be cool to see them there but i don't know
they should just say fuck it and do it at like ocean city maryland like something like that but then you
again then you have the commute so they'll figure something out they're probably going to stay at the
hans let's be very honest but they do need to figure out the social life of the show yeah because
it's a huge component and there's so many things that happen while they're out and i know
everybody's expecting to see the summerhouse crew but if you have a new cast for the most part
yeah you've got a couple of people that we know then they're going to be fine they're not going to
get mobbed by fans they're not going to have like all these things going on you should be able to
still do it and still should be able to film at these at these bars and these clubs that they're going to
i don't know exactly what it looks like but that is i think one thing that they have to address
and if they can figure that out we're good it doesn't really matter the cast is going to figure it
out and keep a couple of people that understand what they're doing whether it's martha's vineyard
or hampton's crew whatever it might be they'll figure it out but that's something that
I sorely feel like they are missing out on.
Yeah, I agree with that.
And I'm sure that that's not lost on like producers as well,
the fact that we completely lost the social scene of the Hamptons.
Now it's just we literally hang out at the house the whole time.
So I'm sure they hopefully address that.
I'm as far as I mean,
we could sit here and speculate for hours on who's going to be on the show,
what the show is going to look like.
It's more fun now because I remember us doing it.
We would typically just do it.
like the season finale and then obviously we would have the reunion and then we do it again for the last episode of the reunion we would just start talking about what the show looks like how you fix it and we weren't really complaining about it but we were speculating on what it looks like moving forward because and this is where the whole idea hatched from which we probably should have trademarked lindsay in the city we talked about that years ago and here we literally three years ago could have been in the works years ago who knows how long they've been working on this but in my mind this is our idea so you guys enjoy our show
when it comes out you're welcome and i do think the last thing i'll say about it is i think
kyle's going to have a big role on it yeah only because of the line right across the screen
in the trailer where it says are you ready to send it in the city i'm like so kyle's going to be a
big part of this because that's his absolutely so i'm excited i'm really excited for this one this is
probably top of my list of things that needed to happen good ideas it seems like an absolute
no-brainer. We talked more about their time in the city last season than we did at their time in the
Hamptons. Like more happened there. By the way, it's revisionist history, obviously. They were
probably soft launching the show by showing us all of those things in the city. That's a good point.
Like, hey, let's see how everybody likes these. And then we would just rave about the scenes in the
city. Yeah. And then we'd get to the themed party in the Hamptons and we're like, yeah, whatever.
Let's go back to the city. Let's see how that's going. But hey, that's doing your research.
I'm cool with that.
That's seeing how like testing things, testing the waters and then listening and going,
hey, this work, guys, let's make a show about it.
Great.
More of that, please.
Less of, I think this will work.
No, Jeremiah fucking doesn't.
Somebody fire him already.
Anyway, lots to look forward to.
Hell of a news week.
Good news week.
We never get weeks like this.
I'm stoked.
This was exceptional.
Yeah.
So you guys are, you guys are welcome for the.
extra content yeah we're happy to give it to you truthfully like i i love that we have shit
to talk about because usually we're like what happened this week and the minute the minute
that i post the episode something drops like taylor frankie paul next bachelor right it's like fuck
how do we miss that every time so anyways lots to look forward to guys the lull this hasn't
been so like that bad of a lull but we have been in one but it's almost over we got a lot of new
stuff to look forward to some of the older stuff coming back as well we'll see how some of these
seasons are doing. I know Potomac is teed up to launch, I think, in October, without Karen,
which is going to be very interesting to watch. And then obviously, Karen's departure from prison
is definitely going to be in the season. Like I said, all I need from that is Giselle narrating
the letters she receives from Karen in like a very cheesy scene. Are you just doing the same
discussion we had last week on the news episode? We didn't have enough news this week. We have to add
We had enough.
I just came back in my head and I was like, oh, man, that would be a great scene.
It really would.
But yeah, anyway, that's all I got.
You got anything else?
Nope.
Well, that's our show.
Rose got to go.
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