Bros & Shows - Summer is Heating Up at Freaknik (Summer House Martha's Vineyard)

Episode Date: May 2, 2024

What's up Bros?! First things first, our live show is tomorrow so if you haven't gotten a ticket yet... GO TO THE LINK IN OUR INSTAGRAM AND GET YOUR TICKET NOW!!! Now onto business. We watched Summer ...House Martha's Vineyard and this. show. is. good. In this episode, its couples weekend. We get to meet some significant others including Natalie... Amirs other half. Summer let's us in on some of the things she's been dealing with regarding her Nana and surgery, as well as some pent up emotions throughout the summer that seem to be building up. Mariah and Phil make a return to the house as Jordan is planning her Freaknik party. Natalie struggles to fit in with the rest of the house but not before putting Amir down in front of the cocktail party. Things escalate at the Freaknik when Summer seems to get overwhelmed over a game of never have I ever, and then takes an issue with multiple people in the house. its apparent that she is overwhelmed with what she's been dealing with and because she doesn't seem to have that confidant in the house this summer, she finally blows up. All in all, this episode, season and show are great, so if youre not watching... WHY ARE YOU NOT WATCHING?!? Intro- (0-4:32) SHMV- (4:33) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:27 For whoever wants to listen, I am your co-host, Steel, Russell joined as always by the one and only Troubleshooter Magouter. What's up, dude? You want to give people the backstory on that one? Yes, and I wish that I remember the name own, because one of our listeners sent us that. Shooter, look
Starting point is 00:01:44 it up, let's give this person credit, because it was I've never used this one, and it seems like a layup, but it's not, because this is the first time I've heard it. Shoots, can you read that name for me? That would be Emma under the handle of Hey Heel. Hey Heel. She says,
Starting point is 00:02:00 said that she solved a problem, and she said to herself, Troubleshooter Magooter. So you've been influenced by the Magoutes. And I wanted to give you credit for that one. It made me laugh. So nice job there. In other news, we are here to talk about Summer House Martha's Vineyard, which continues to be a fantastic show.
Starting point is 00:02:17 If you're listening to this and do not watch it, I don't know what you're doing with your life. Like, do you have other things to do? Well, they're listening to us, talk about it. I appreciate that. I think you would probably like to have the context of what we're talking about. You might think that. You would think.
Starting point is 00:02:29 You would think. But if you're not watching it, do yourselves a favor. Go watch Summer House Martha's Vineyard, especially season one was great. Get caught up. Get caught up with season two. Like I said, we're only trying to help you out. We're just trying to help out. And it is D.C. week.
Starting point is 00:02:44 Oh, shit. Which is pretty funny. So we put up a graphic of our show. We chose the Washington Monument. We did. We did. Just the tip of it. It's not.
Starting point is 00:02:56 It's the entire thing. But, yeah, if you noticed the day, different logo for this episode. Yeah, we like to get a little fun with it during the week. Yeah, you know, you got to mix it up and, uh, I don't know. But in other news, what are we going to do for Boston? Oh, Fenway? I think, yeah, probably Fenway.
Starting point is 00:03:14 Uh, I was thinking maybe we do like the old photo, uh, probably like a painting of the Boston Tea Party would be fun. And like me and you throwing tea into the harbor. That would be sick. If we could do that, everybody knows any good Photoshopers out there. That would be awesome. You want to AI. some photos of me and shooter throwing tea into the Boston Harbor.
Starting point is 00:03:33 That would be really funny. That would be incredible. But I did find my outfit. You did? I'm all set. What are we going? Just give me, I know you're not going to like dive. I'm not going to tell you anything.
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Starting point is 00:03:53 Very simple. Yeah. I went simple because, like, I like to go wacky sometimes, but I wanted to go simple and just on the brand yeah that makes sense i've been uh inundated with moving processes and things like that and this snuck up on me so i had no idea what i was going to wear so i had to ask for help that's hey sometimes you just need to ask for help important to ask for help okay i wish that we had like a lead into like an ad here we don't but the last thing we need to talk about and let's just also it being dc week our show is this friday may 3rd down in dc at union stage so make sure you
Starting point is 00:04:27 go get your tickets if you haven't yet we are getting close to the deadline so we already have a pretty packed house so we're super excited for that but there are more tickets available so you'll go to the link in our bio get your tickets come hang out with us kandist dillard chris bassett and the one and only ryan bailey from so bad it's good with ryan bailey last thing last order of business before we talk about this how do we feel about the game today i'm not going to say the name i just want to know how you're feeling about the game tonight. I feel that we're no longer going to have to endure
Starting point is 00:04:57 second round exit jokes because we're out in the first round. That's fine. Yeah. Just end it. That's what I feel like. Just put us out of our misery. I don't want that very typical sixers. We're going to win one in dominating fashion up in New York and then it's going to be an absolute heartbreak at home on Thursday or Friday whenever game
Starting point is 00:05:13 six is, yeah. Oh, game six. You're only at game five right now. I know we're at game five. That's how what I think's going to happen? It's going to go to game seven and then we're going to get smoked in game seven. Yeah, it's not even to be a fun game. No, that That's what I'm predicting, but I mean, time will tell that games tonight, so wish us luck. You're listening to this right now. We're probably just moving on to the Phillies.
Starting point is 00:05:33 Yeah, go Phil's. But let's get into Summer House Martha's Vineyard, and we start out. And I think this is an important preface, and I'm glad I wrote it down, because I think this is the root of everything that happens in this episode for the most part. But Summer's talking about her nana. Her nana just had surgery, so she's very concerned about her. Sounds like she came through surgery. well so she's on the mend which is amazing so all happy thoughts there but we learn more about summer's nana who actually ended up raising her because her mom she divulges was an addict wasn't around
Starting point is 00:06:03 as much so she ended up losing custody of her she went to live with her nana her father has been m ia from the jump i believe she thought that she her mom had told her who her dad was one guy and the one guy said no i'm not there's no way so then it's apparently some one night stand from a while ago, so it's just a lost cause at this point. Yeah, so now she's trying to, I don't know, the way that she was talking about was that she's actually trying to either figure out who her dad is or is potentially making contact with her father.
Starting point is 00:06:30 I'm not sure, so I don't know if we'll get more of that, but the point being she has a lot of things going on personally, and she's trying to deal with that. She says that she has trouble asking for help because of her abandonment issues. She tries to deal with everything
Starting point is 00:06:46 on her own, and you could argue that this is the grounds for kind of all of her fights in the house, when she seems to ramp up out of nowhere, maybe this is the root of it all. And I think that you see that very clearly as this episode goes on, but this is couples weekend.
Starting point is 00:07:02 We're getting all the couples coming into the house. Aren't we all excited, Amir? Amir, we'll get there. Well, I'm just referring to him running over to Preston and giving a big hug and saying, Couples weekend, we're going to have fun. We're really excited about couples weekend, right, guys? Everybody, everybody?
Starting point is 00:07:17 We're going to have fun, right, guys? God. This seems like you're setting it up because you're nervous. Very nervous. Why are you nervous? We find out why you're nervous. Yep. But why are you nervous?
Starting point is 00:07:29 God. Like, here's the thing. If you look at Preston, he's just happy. He knows that Donald's coming soon, that he gets to hang out with his man. If you look at Brea, and her and Simon's relationship is insane. And even Brea's like, I'm just excited for Simon to be here. You don't have to, like, gauge the temperature of the house. Like, you guys good?
Starting point is 00:07:48 We're excited. I'm excited. You're excited too? that is a red flag. Yeah, not only that, but Amir posted this week on Instagram, and it was a story of him, I guess, like at a gym doing the vertical workout, like trying to jump up and touch the, uh, oh, you see it at the combine?
Starting point is 00:08:03 Yeah, there's like the high jump. The high G. Or what is that? What's the test? It's a vertical jump. I used to have to do that for baseball. Yeah. By the way, not my best event.
Starting point is 00:08:12 No, I imagine not. Yeah, that doesn't really apply to catchers in baseball. It doesn't. Well, maybe a high fastball, but, um, yeah, he, posted that and said, this is y'all jumping to conclusions about my relationship. That's what he said. We're not jumping at any conclusions. We're just seeing what we see and then talking
Starting point is 00:08:28 about it. You're presenting us with information. That is pretty clear-cut. By the way, you're not doing yourself any favors. No, just shush. Just shush. Let it play out. But we learn that Mariah is coming. I mean, we knew that was going to happen, but we get like a whole recap of why she got the boot from the house last year. I forgot
Starting point is 00:08:48 honestly. I knew that like the end all deal is that she put hands on Bria and that was the last straw they kicked her out on night one same with Phil going around taking poops and everybody's bathrooms and being a total asshole to everyone that's why he got the boot I forgot that it all started because somebody put Milo's clothes or Milo's laundry in with hers yep and she lost her fucking mind because she's allergic to dogs it doesn't matter you just say hey like in that situation we're all new here? I don't know the deal.
Starting point is 00:09:19 The funny thing that came out of this was that it was Amir who did that and then just never spoke up about it. I wouldn't either. Well, yeah, in that moment, the whole funny thing after that is obviously Mariah watched last season, so she knows
Starting point is 00:09:34 that Amir did that, and Amir just never admitted to it and just didn't talk about it. So he kind of threw a run to the bus there. Obviously, don't make that big of a deal out of it. It's not that big of you. You know, like get your, rewash your clothes maybe? Rewash your clothes? And then say, hey, I'm allergic to dogs. Please don't do that.
Starting point is 00:09:49 Yep. He doesn't know. You all just moved into the house. I think it's... Well, I think it's... If we really want to break down the whole laundry gate thing... I love laundry gate. Why is Brea putting Milo's clothes in with everything else?
Starting point is 00:10:02 That is a dog's clothes. You wash that alone. Agreed? Yep. Agreed. I'm not defending the washing of the dogs clothes with the regular clothes. I just don't agree with how it was handled. And then, seemingly, a year later, we're still in laundry gate.
Starting point is 00:10:16 It has not been solved yet. Nope. That's funny. It's ridiculous. It's ridiculous. It's funny. Simon arrives in, of course he walks in wearing a flamingo pajama set. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:28 I don't even think that was pajamas. I think that was not pajamas. I think that's a full outfit. It's crazy. Not only that, but he said it was the theme for the weekend because he also had swim trunks that have flamingos on them. And he announced like Flamingo. I got other flamingo stuff. And it's going on there.
Starting point is 00:10:41 Well, they're chit chatting and like they're confessional or it or is at the truth booth, whatever it is. I think that was the truth booth, yeah. The truth booth. Has not lived up to the hype. It hasn't done shit. I completely forgot about it until just now. I just assumed it was a confessional because I didn't really care. And then, yeah, it's the truth booth.
Starting point is 00:10:55 We've got no truths in the truth booth. We need more truth booth. But I thought it was really funny that Brea's like, you know, I just miss him so much. I'm so glad he's here. Like, you know, it's just hard to talk all the time because we're both so busy. Like, you would just ignore me all the time. I text you, I call you say, I'll talk to you tomorrow. I can't do it tonight.
Starting point is 00:11:11 I love Simon so much. He's such, he seems like a character. He's definitely a character. definitely a really weird dude, obviously walking in with that flamingo set, but definitely a character. At least he's himself. And at least he gets, like, something out of Bria because she's just kind of a dud otherwise. So at least when she's there or when he's there, she talks a little bit more. I think it's great.
Starting point is 00:11:32 There's something about those two and something about Simon in general that I'm enamored with it. But they start talking about Phil, and he's on the island. So they're saying, like, hey, can Phil come? You know, Mariah's coming. Is it okay? Donald says, at this point, like, our beef is squashed for the most part. Like, you can invite him. I'm not going to invite him, but I have no issue with it.
Starting point is 00:11:53 We find out that Donald and Preston are moving in together as well, and the only reason I'm bringing that up is the wallpaper discussion. How do we feel about wallpaper? I think I heard that it's making a comeback. I'm not a huge fan of it. You don't like my bathroom? In the bathroom is fine. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:07 I was actually just about to say that. Bathroom wallpaper, perfect. House wallpaper, no. What about an accent well with wallpour? I disagree. I think that you're selling it short. I think that if you do wallpaper right, it looks really good. I don't know. It's making a big comeback. It is making a huge comeback. I don't think I'm ready for it, though. I don't own a house, though, so what the fuck do I care? I mean, that's a good point. Yeah. But it's being open to the idea. Walpapers, hey, I wasn't a believer until Dev was like, I want to put wallpaper in the bathroom. I put it up. By the way, peel and stick wallpaper, fucking nightmare. Absolutely nightmare.
Starting point is 00:12:43 I can imagine. Got it up. Looks great. How do you get the bubbles out? Dude, you got to start. No, you start from the bottom. You just work your way up with like a paint scraper, like a plastic paint scraper. You work.
Starting point is 00:12:54 Go up the wall. If it bubbles, you got to pull it down and like go back from where you were. When I tell you, the problem's not, this is what you all want to hear, right, home improvement with Rob Bros. The problem's not with like a good, like if it's a flat area, you just got to go straight up without any cuts. It's actually not that bad. It's when you have to match up the sides one. and when you get like a corner where you got to cut it
Starting point is 00:13:15 because it doesn't fit all the way, that's when you run into problems. Okay, let me just tell you. If you're going to do it, it's also a solo project. Don't get anybody else involved. Don't get your significant other involved. And Dev's awesome about that stuff. Like if we have a project and she's like,
Starting point is 00:13:31 can you go do this? I'm like, yes, I'll go handle this. Because I get a little flustered during it. You do? Shocking, I know. Wow. But I get it done. I do it well.
Starting point is 00:13:40 And she also is cool enough to be like, all right, go do your thing, and it gets done. That's good. That's the way to do it. Yeah, so just PSA, if you're going to put up steel and pick, steal and pick wallpaper, that's my new company. Yeah, steal and pick. Steal and pick wallpaper. Neither word is right. Nope.
Starting point is 00:13:54 But anyway, let's move on. And Simon says that he needs Phil to come because he wants some lobster. He just needs some lobster. Lobsta. Lobsta. I wrote lobster, which is laughter. But again, he just fucking cracks me up. But this is when we finally get to meet Natalie in person.
Starting point is 00:14:12 And they're driving back, I guess, Amir picked her up from the ferry or wherever she got in from. She doesn't like Summer. They met at the party last year, I guess. And the fact that you have to give her this, like, preamble on the way to the house to, like, prep her to not get upset about stuff is already a problem in my eyes where you're like, remember, like, summer's very touchy. Yeah, singling out one person is wild. And we don't know we're not privy to how everything went down when they did. meet last year. But I can already tell you what I imagine how it went is
Starting point is 00:14:46 Natalie was very standoffish, very protective of a mirror, probably watching his every move. Oh, yeah. And if he even looked in someone else's direction, they probably got into a fight that night. Mm-hmm. So it already, it's not looking great. It's not looking great out of the gate, so I'm already a little apprehensive as this is going to go. I'm
Starting point is 00:15:02 excited to watch, but I don't know, I got anxiety for some reason, like getting ready for this. I've been ready for it for like weeks now. I've been wanting Natalie to get up there and mix it up. And look, I mean, we've got a whole couple's weekend here. We've got one night of a couple's weekend. I hope we get a little bit more from that tomorrow.
Starting point is 00:15:18 Maybe a little interaction. There's no way that we don't. There's got to be more. So far, every time that she talks, she puts her foot in her mouth. Yeah, she does. So we're going to see more of that. But he also prefaces it with, if you feel anything going on, remember, it's just me and you. It's just me and you.
Starting point is 00:15:30 It's like, dude, you can't even talk to the other people that you're living with without it being a problem. That's not a problem. That should be a problem. That's not okay. You shouldn't have to walk on eggshells because your housemates are. I think that Amir's never been in a serious relationship. I think that he's the guy that he loves being in love so much that when he is, he will bend and break to any will of his partner just to make sure everything's copacetic.
Starting point is 00:15:55 And I feel like the girls that he's gotten in relationships with have noticed that and dumped him. Quite possibly. Very quickly. And now he's in this relationship for how long a year, I guess? Has it even a little longer than a year? They moved in together after two months. Don't do that. Just don't do that.
Starting point is 00:16:12 That's not smart. And it didn't sound like there were extenuating circumstances. It just sounded like you forced the hand. What if, let me spin zone this. Okay. What if he's just playing this role, but, you know, she makes it very clear that she does very well. Uh-huh. What if he's looking for a sugar mama?
Starting point is 00:16:30 That's not worth it. Just saying what if that's what's going on? Is sugar mama that comes along with judging you and getting invites with you all the time? I'm just saying that takes away all the time. I'm just saying that takes away all. the sugar. I'm just saying, what if that's a salty mama? Salty mama. What if that's what he's doing? What if he's like, look, she's, she does, I want to save it for later. I'll save it for later. We'll come back to this, but Brea facetimes with Phil, and he's actually with Mariah. And when I see
Starting point is 00:16:59 this, I'm like, ooh, sketch, but good, good drama. Very good. I'm happy that he came back, but sketch. You got the two? Sure. Got the two. What was he even doing up there in the first place? Like, is he just, he was on his own, but then he went over and got Mariah. Like, we know that he was going. Oh, they knew they were coming to this party. Yeah, of course, we knew the entire time.
Starting point is 00:17:19 Or maybe some people knew and it was just supposed to be dramatic effect or whatever. But it still played pretty well. It played very well. It's everybody talking right away. Why was Phil in the car with Mariah? I want to know, like, these two clearly were in cahoots, like, oh, yeah, we're going to go up there together. Mariah doesn't seem like she wants to start shoot when she gets there. Phil.
Starting point is 00:17:37 Phil is just Phil, and we'll talk about that. No, I think that both of them. Going back to them being in cahoots, they probably both watched it last year. And look, I mean, we talk about how Martha's Vineyard isn't getting as much viewership as we would like. It's starting to do better. It still did well enough to get a second season. A reunion. You did well enough to get a reunion this year.
Starting point is 00:17:56 So people do like it and it's doing well enough that they're probably like, fuck, we missed the boat. And they bonded over that. And I think they want to get back in. And let's try to wiggle our way back in there. I think that's the goal too. But Natalie gets to the house. and the reception is cold to say the least to the point where she's in the room getting ready and Amir's trying to find people just trying to find people to come say hi to her and nobody wants to
Starting point is 00:18:22 like she's literally standing in the room and Amir goes out to the hallway and Jordan's walking out and Natalie can hear him and he goes hey Jordan have you met Natalie yet and she's like no where's noel downstairs she just go straight downstairs yeah but this is the whole thing with Natalie, Natalie's standing in the room waiting for a mirror to go out and bring people in to say hi to her. This is their turf. Correct. They don't have to do shit. They don't have to bend the need of you. So they're
Starting point is 00:18:48 getting ready in the room, which is a completely plausible reason to not run out. They're already running late. They're getting ready in their bathroom. You have to go get ready. So yeah, they're not going to come out to give it a minute. I think it's a lot funnier that they got to the top of the stairs and bolted. Yeah, we're not going to go talk to Natalie right now. She's not here. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:04 Like if she came out with Amir and they were walking around the house talking to people, sure. You talk her, but I'm not going to go walk into the room be like, hey, how are you, nice to meet you? You've already heard enough stories from Amir and probably from Summer and Jordan and whoever. Oh, they met her at the party, too. Yeah, well, some of them had. I don't think like
Starting point is 00:19:19 Chenice had met her or... Maybe Jordan hasn't. I think Brea had met her. There's a couple that definitely didn't meet her at this point. But you've heard enough stories that you're like, no, we're not fucking doing that. She can make the effort. We don't have to make... Not to mention. What are we going to think about Amir's balls? We're going to go in there and go say hi to her, then all of a sudden the mirror gets completely castrated?
Starting point is 00:19:36 Oh, jeez. Like, what? Yeah, that's what happens. What the fuck? How? Because they were, there's girls in their room. Oh, you're right, there. Yeah, you're too close to the bed that we sleep in.
Starting point is 00:19:48 Yeah, even though Amir actually doesn't sleep in this bed, we're renting this bed for the week. Yeah, they are renting the bed for the week. But his confessional here, that's alarming because he's like, you know, women in this house have showed interest in me. And you get like a clip of Cheneese where he's like, oh, I saw Shinnis and I didn't care for the shit. I didn't either. I also didn't see that last year. No. Nobody was pining for Amir last year.
Starting point is 00:20:11 The clip that they showed of Shanice was just that she was running to the bathroom and she was naked. Yeah. You happened to look out and see her naked. That's not her coming on to you. Nobody came on to you. You were trying to flirt with Jordan all summer and she wasn't having it. So for you to finish this with, hopefully I can prove that I've been staying away from Jordan, like I told. So clearly Jordan's a problem for Natalie.
Starting point is 00:20:34 Right. Just because Amir's best interest. or the previous year. Who isn't the problem for Natalie, though? That's the thing. Nobody, that's the thing. And, like, also, it is not fair for you to hold this over Jordan's head because Amir had a thing for her last year.
Starting point is 00:20:47 She's done nothing wrong. In fact, she put her foot down and said, dude, fuck off last year. Let's not forget. So for you to vilify Jordan for simply being alive is pretty dumb. Before you were dating. Correct. Like, that's where we're at. And it's only going to get worse.
Starting point is 00:21:01 But we get to the cocktail party. And that's when Phil. and Mariah arrive. And the characters on this show, the different people on this show, is so awesome to me. Because it's so funny the different dynamics that present themselves. Because Nick is like, I go to Wimbledon. I go to the U.S. Open. I'm in Italy.
Starting point is 00:21:22 I'm here. I'm there. I'm here. Phil's just another person. I don't care. And it's just, it's so funny to get all of these different people in this house. You get so many different dynamics. Well, the funny thing about the guys specifically when it comes to Phil is, and Amir even
Starting point is 00:21:36 says this you know we're such a tice we're such a tight close-knit group that you do something to one of us you're doing it's all of us i actually don't care for that i need more drama between the dudes all the dudes are so close-knit and they're just kind of running together they don't fight with each other they don't squabble there's no issues you bring phil in all the sudden people are a little uneasy that's what we need we need somebody like phil to come in and start some shit because right now it's just the guys like teaming up and living in their little boy dorm downstairs and they just don't want to have to fight with anybody. That's what's going to happen when you put a bunch of dudes in a bunkhouse.
Starting point is 00:22:09 Yeah. You're going to get along so you can keep the peace in the room. For sure. Well, they're also friends outside of that and they became closer friends after the first season. Yeah, they all hung out. It's just, it's too copesthetic for me. I need a little bit of mix up. Nah, I disagree.
Starting point is 00:22:20 There's something about that. You like to watch boring stuff where the dudes are just the agreement all the time. I went through the fight. You're right. There should be a little bit more drama. But like, here's my only issue with that premise is like, I don't want manufactured drama just by bringing in a chaotic person, because here's the thing.
Starting point is 00:22:36 It's not like the original dudes in the house are then going to split because Phil's in. They're not going to get tired with Phil over somebody else. I'm not even saying Phil specifically, just someone like Phil, who clearly gets under their skin. It just makes them a little uneasy and they're just too comfortable right now with each other.
Starting point is 00:22:52 I mean, I see what you're saying. I get it. The girls are still fighting. The girls are still having issues between the two. Obviously, at the end of this episode, they're having issues amongst themselves, but the guys just aren't involved in that. No, they're not.
Starting point is 00:23:03 right. That is true. That's a good point. But Mariah is there and we get like again a recap of last year and we learn that her and Amir have exchanged some text messages. She demands a public apology for the laundry gate. Let it go. Let it go. This is just people saw you freak the fuck out about laundry and now you feel like it's someone else's fault. Well, hold on. It is Amir's fault. It is definitely Amir's fault. It's not that. He doesn't need to issue a public apology. It's not that deep. It's, we know that he did it. It's dog laundry. Yeah. That's it.
Starting point is 00:23:38 Let's let it go. It's funny that we're still talking about it. Usually I'd be annoyed that we're still talking about something like this. For whatever reason, this is funny to me. That's funny because it just came back up, like, randomly. Yeah, but we get to talk about real estate. And Amir is a real estate agent. He deals with the common folk.
Starting point is 00:23:55 Okay. Natalie's more of the luxury dealer. I see what Amir's doing here. He's trying to prop his lady up. Good for you. There's nothing wrong. with that. The problem is she jumps in and then
Starting point is 00:24:07 puts her man down. Don't do this. You don't have to knock him down a peg. He's trying to say nice things about you and she says, the difference is his houses are under a million. Mine are over two million. What I do in a month a mere does in a year. You just
Starting point is 00:24:23 cucked your boyfriend in front of a whole party for no reason. And he just sits there and goes, ha ha, yeah, babe, babe. Yeah. You're so right, babe. You're so right. I love you. God, it takes me so long to do the Simplest task. Tell me you love me. Look at me when you say it.
Starting point is 00:24:36 I love you, too. It's great. It's not great. It's funny. It's sad for Amir, but if he's going to sit there and protect her and do all this shit on Instagram when the episode airs, then he's just mixed in anyway. And I don't feel bad for him. Well, for him to say you're jumping to conclusions. It's like, dude, you watch the scene.
Starting point is 00:24:52 Tell me what you see. Yeah. Like, we're watching you get made fun of by your girl. There's still more episodes of this weekend. Do you think it's going to get any better? There's no way. Maybe hold off on posting something on Instagram until the full weekend gets aired. Let's get through couples weekend first.
Starting point is 00:25:09 You guys are jumping to conclusions next episode. Natalie's literally in a fight with every single girl in the house. Are we jumping to conclusions? You look like an idiot. I have no idea. I hope so. God, I hope so. But we'll find out on Tuesday or whatever this week.
Starting point is 00:25:22 Today's Tuesday. We'll find out on like Thursday or Friday when Bravo decides to release 15 minutes of footage from Sunday's episode. On the next episode, here's the whole episode. Here's the whole episode. but we get Brea and Mariah, they squash all the beef. They pretty much come together and say, let's blame this on Amir. It's Amir's fault. She says, you know, I'm allergic to dogs, so shit got ramped up.
Starting point is 00:25:42 I do agree with you. I think that Mariah is now in, like, cleanup mode. Let me just safe face a little bit and hopefully work my way back into the show. I am not against a Phil of Mariah return. Even though I said before, I don't know if that's the answer. I'm not against it. And also, like you said, that adds another layer to this house of, you're going Are you looking for a movie review show where the critic is at the top of his or her game,
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Starting point is 00:27:43 Tron Aries looks exceptional, plus Mortal Kombat 2, and Edgar writes, The Running Man, starring Glenn Powell. Search for Raiders of the Lost podcast on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, and YouTube. I'm going to get a little bit more uncomfortable conversations where people might, because they're not tight with the crew everyone else is like the originals well i'm actually more i'm fine with really the girls in the house because you you sort of replaced uh maria with noelle this year and noelle's great and noel's great because she's stuck between a rock and a hard place with being friends with summer while also trying to get with the rest of the girls and be friends with them it's it's kind of fun to like watch unfold phil i don't necessarily need specifically phil i just want
Starting point is 00:28:23 the guys to mix it up a little bit more the girls are fine i would leave them alone i agree with that I'm just saying I'm not against... Can you bring them back in a friend of capacity where they're there for like a week? Just half the time? Yeah. I don't know. They're going to have to figure out the structure of this show next year, probably. It's going to be interesting to see what kind of adjustments they make, if any, but...
Starting point is 00:28:40 That's the other thing. If any broke, don't fix it. It's working. I do wish that there was... It wasn't like a two-week straight kind of thing, and that's only because it's framed as a summer house show where we get the weekends up and then you get the city back and forth. Somebody did comment on our thing and say it's really not that... difficult to get from Mass to Martha's Vineyard.
Starting point is 00:28:59 Yeah, so if they're living in Boston, it's really not that difficult. I don't know. It's going to be interesting. Probably about the same, honestly, driving from the city to Hamptons. I'd be curious to know, but we get Phil with the boys, and he's doing his best, I guess, to apologize, and he blames it on tequila. Well, first off, he said tequila that I brought was really expensive, and I wanted to look cool. Yes. By drinking too much of it?
Starting point is 00:29:25 Yeah, I don't know. I don't know. I didn't really understand that. You're going to look cool by bringing expensive tequila, I guess. But are you cool for getting blackout drunk being a dick? Drinking it and getting into fights with people and then saying that you don't remember the things that you said? And then pooping in everyone's bathroom. Yeah, none of that makes sense.
Starting point is 00:29:42 It's not cool. Nope, nope. I don't, I'm not cool, but I don't think that's cool. Nope. Yeah, but they seem to be okay with it. Like, I think it was more of a like whatever dude, like, yeah, we're good. Amir keeps trying to give his two cents in the thing.
Starting point is 00:29:59 He's trying to get his rocks off. Yeah, he's trying to look like the tough guy. Because last year he stood up to Phil and had this whole thing, you know, being the smaller guy in the group a lot, like I made it. I took things personally when people bullied me, so I always stand up to bullies.
Starting point is 00:30:12 I have no issue with that. If you want to be that guy, at least you're consistent with it. In this moment, I was like, hey, just you squashed it. It doesn't really matter if it was apologizing to you. Just move on, yeah. Yeah, the apology doesn't mean shit.
Starting point is 00:30:25 You don't have to stand there and be like, you're going to respect my boys. This was directly after he got cucked by his girlfriend. That's true. So now he's trying to uncuck himself. He's trying to get uncucked by standing up to Phil? I think so. He can't go after Natalie, so he goes after Phil.
Starting point is 00:30:40 Maybe, maybe. But God forbid they see a chink in the armor. We're so strong, babe, right? Babe, babe, look at me. No, we literally want all of you to just leave. Go away. Dude, oh, my God. But couples' weekends.
Starting point is 00:30:53 Couples weekend. They get back home. If your dog's going to make a mess every time you leave, don't leave him unattended in a bedroom. Yeah, put the dog in a crate. Put the dog in a crate. Go do your business, come home, take the dog out. It's not fair to the dog.
Starting point is 00:31:09 You're leaving. And also, for that matter, if you are going to leave your dog, who is not trained to stay home alone, alone in a bedroom, make sure there's nothing within distance that he can chew on. I will say he made a little bit less of a mess this time than he did last time. Cool. Progress? No. Come on. It's luck. A little bit of progress. I cannot stand for the poor training of dogs on these shows. I cannot stand for it. Especially Milo because I like Milo. He's a sweet little pup. Yeah. So don't paint him in a bad light because he's making him. It's not his fault. But now here I am. Damning Milo for making a mess again. Good point. I just can't. I just Bravo dogs need to be studied. It needs to be studied. I'm serious. I'm so glad this. You know what? Actually, no. I think I understand why Milo is throwing a fit.
Starting point is 00:31:56 He wants to go to the club. Oh, that's true. It's a club dog, man. Or you know what? You guys out partying without me? Come on. I like this idea better. When they leave,
Starting point is 00:32:06 have you seen the secret life of pets? Yeah. It's a secret life of pets scenario. All the dogs in the vineyard come and party in Milo's room. Oh, man, he's like, oh, fuck, they're coming back. Everybody out. So it's a mess. And then he acts like he chewed on things to get away with it, but actually he was partying.
Starting point is 00:32:21 Yeah, but now I'm at Bravo because they have a camera in there. And if there's footage of that and they're not showing it. us that's bullshit bullshit yeah we need to lobby against bravo dog party yeah show us the dog party yeah what the fuck it's more interesting than a mirror his girlfriend it no i don't i disagree i firmly disagree but they're getting prepped for the freak nick party and simon's outfit this is why i love simon dude understood the assignment looks fucking ridiculous but great everyone's outfit everyone does such a great job for this party i was thrilled with nick most of all I felt. Nick looks like, he looks awesome. I love it when people commit to the theme party.
Starting point is 00:32:59 Look, like theme parties aren't my favorite thing in the world, but if you're going to go to a theme party, you better commit to it. Absolutely. And they all did. They really went all out. I really appreciated the outfits. I thought the whole cast looked phenomenal. So, Bravo, guys, no pun intended. While they're getting ready, of course, they're having fun. Like, the vibes are immaculate downstairs. Everyone's vibe. To mention you just came from a cocktail party and you were drinking beforehand. Yeah. You drink beforehand.
Starting point is 00:33:26 You go to the cocktail party. You're a little lit. You're getting ready for a big party that night. You're having a great time. You're yelling. You're shouting over the music. The pregame after the pregame. So like you said, you get the pregame with the cocktail.
Starting point is 00:33:40 They didn't get the pregame while getting ready. Sometimes that's the most fun because you're still drinking a little bit. You're not getting rowdy, but you're drinking a little bit. You're like, oh, man, this night's going to be sick. Your cheers and your boys or your girls, whoever you're getting ready with. You're just getting pumped. You're pumping each other up. Pump it up.
Starting point is 00:33:54 Let's get ready to party. Pump it up. We go to a mirror in Natalie's room. He's putting her nails on for her. And you hear the girls downstairs simply having fun. They're just having a good time, which is the point of a freak nick party. They're having fun. Natalie's like, can't be a part of that.
Starting point is 00:34:13 Then go home. What are you doing there? You're at a summer house party. She's there to spy on her boyfriend to see what he's doing. 1,000%. And he's too afraid to leave the room. Yeah, you're helping her with her nails. That's great.
Starting point is 00:34:23 You're a good boyfriend. Nice. She's done with the nails. You're still waiting for her. She told you you can go downstairs. That was, and look, I know that there's toxic relationships out there where some people are like, oh, yeah, go have fun and they don't mean it. This is one of them.
Starting point is 00:34:36 Go have fun. You don't have to stay in the room with me. She would stay in the room the whole time. She'd probably call him and say, you have to come back upstairs. You left me alone. You left me alone. I don't know what to do. I don't like what I'm doing anymore.
Starting point is 00:34:47 I don't want to hang out these people. Then he has to go back upstairs and deal with that. walk her down so that she's not alone like it's just not a good environment for you being otherwise why are you here I don't know I don't know but the number one I guess you can call it an outfit I don't know
Starting point is 00:35:02 look let's call it a look the number one look of the night is Nick yeah Nick comes out tatted up head to toe everybody likes it yep I did too like damn he looks good like Shanice loves it oh she was all about it she's a problem right now because Shanice the first thing she says to him is that makes
Starting point is 00:35:20 he went. I was like, whoa. All right. Yeah. Whoa. All right. It ramps up from there because knowing that he has a girlfriend is then announcing to the party, I'm fucking Nick tonight. It's like, hey, hey, hey. No. Don't do that. Because you're putting him in a really bad spot. If we just look at that as Chenise was at least attracted to Nick in that look, as soon as Nick starts talking, she's like, oh yeah, that's Nick. Yeah, there was Nick again. Oh, man, bummer. He's talking about the fucking U.S. Open again. But we get to learn about the history of a Freaknik party, which I'm glad. And I was going to Google it after the show because I wanted to learn about it. Jordan walks through it, I guess, back in 1983 on a college campus in Atlanta,
Starting point is 00:36:02 the college students that couldn't vacation down on Lake Daytona Beach or things like that, wanted to still have a party and celebrate. So they got together at the picnic grounds on campus and through a Freaknick party, where it was celebrating music, culture, outfits, fashion, all that. stuff i want to go to a freak nick party this looked like such a good time i really thought it looked like a fuck you have the outfit for that i don't know i would definitely need help jeans and boots aren't going to cut it you yeah that's true i can go jorts no stop with you don't know no stop trying to throw jorts and everything you do i will always always advocate for jorts jorts are always a good
Starting point is 00:36:38 not for the freak nick and i have to give noel a ton of credit like a ton of credit because this is a veteran move. There's to-go containers. She goes to the food and you get food for later. That is such an important move, especially if there's good food, you stash that shit in your room because at 2, 3, 4 in the morning, when you are hammered and you get back and forget, that's the best part when you do that because you forget and then you go back to your room, you're like, oh, my God, thank you sober me, because this looks amazing.
Starting point is 00:37:08 And you get to eat in your room, then you feel horrible the next morning and you look at all the trash and feel even worse about yourself. but in the moment. But you're probably going to feel better than you did if you didn't eat the food. Good point. Yeah. It's a good point. But I don't think I've ever woken up after a drunk night, like surrounded by Taco Bell rappers, have been like, I'm killing it.
Starting point is 00:37:26 I'm crushing life. I'm doing well right now. You feel like you're crushing life? Oh, boy, that's not. Let's not do that right now. That's a different summer house. But we get to the hot tub, and this is where we find out that Natalie and Amir are living together. And I think that if you're reading between the lines, as we like to do here, when you look at the
Starting point is 00:37:43 future of what their relationship is going to be what's what's on the horizon for you guys you moved in after two months what's next her response is we're starting our career together he just joined my team i'm super excited to get him in the mix and see how things go am here an engagement probably probably soon probably like now i told her like i might do this weekend and she's like i don't have an outfit so like huh bro no neither of them what the fuck is her response talking about your careers talking about working together she's talking about jobs you should be talking about you're talking about your relationship and you start talking
Starting point is 00:38:19 about work which by the way an hour ago you already put down his work you said are you excited to have him on your team I don't know he's not good at his job I think that I don't he should well whoa she didn't say he's not good at his job she insinuated that he's not he insinuates that she's better at the job and that he's just a little cuck that sells houses to the middle class yeah well she's off like selling yachts or something sure I would
Starting point is 00:38:41 love to get the breakdown but like that's not the response when somebody says what's next in your relationship. Not career. Nope. Not career. Not we're excited to get working together. And then on the flip side, your boyfriend's like, I want to get married. That's two very different perspectives. Very different perspectives. But they go to play
Starting point is 00:38:57 never have I ever. And I knew, I fucking knew it. And of course, as soon as they start, Amir's out. Oh, up, got to get out. Like, we can't play this game. Come on, Natalie, we can't do this. Yeah, Natalie, we can't do. We got to get out of here now because I can't even be here when they ask a question because then now is going to be like, have you done that? And he's going to be like, no. To be fair, I feel like, because of the rest of the house, feels this way about Natalie,
Starting point is 00:39:17 they would maybe purposefully put him in a hot seat. That would have been great. Or put her in the hot seat. That would have been a fun seat. And then I would have liked that. Me too. But he dodges the bullet. Me.
Starting point is 00:39:26 Probably a smart move. Yeah, it was. He definitely played it right by getting out of there. Not good for the TV show because I would have loved to have seen it. Same. But smart for Amir to dodge that. Or his life. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:35 That was a smart move. For his life of his balls. She would have cut them off. Yep. She says that. Right there in the hot tub. Yeah. Oh, God.
Starting point is 00:39:41 But. while this game's going on, Brea says an innocuous comment in response to somebody else. And Summer takes it person. I don't even remember what it was. Like, oh, she's scared or something like that. And Summer gets very upset.
Starting point is 00:39:55 And she's like, I'm not scared of anybody and blah, blah, blah, well, starts going after. It's like, whoa. It all started off because Noel didn't understand how the game worked. Oh, right. And then she starts off by saying, never have I ever sucked a dick.
Starting point is 00:40:05 Everyone's like, what the fuck are you talking about? You haven't? She's like, yeah, I have. It's like, it's supposed to be something that you don't know. And then Summer gets involved because we're going over the rules, which is always so funny. And this happens in real life, too. This happens at every party.
Starting point is 00:40:18 When somebody's playing a game, there's always, even if it's never, have I ever, there's always one or two people that just don't get the rules. It's not how you play. And then you have the over-explaner, explain how the rules go, and everybody's kind of talking over them. So, yeah. And then they get frustrated because they're like, guys, you're just trying to tell them I'll play a game. This is a million times over a million, how many times it goes. And it's just funny to watch that somebody else was doing it for once. Summer was very confused.
Starting point is 00:40:41 She was very confused, very drunk. That's very important to point out. And that's what leads to what happens after this. Back to the over-explaining thing, what's the number one game? I know it in my head. What's the number one game that causes the most discrepancies on how it's played? Kings? Yep.
Starting point is 00:40:58 Or Pong? Pong, yeah, because everyone has their own, like, house rules where it's like... Fucking dumb-ass rules. Like no bounces here or, like redemption. My ball hit that cup and then went there, so it's two cups. Well, actually, dumb-ass. You shouldn't get any cups because you miss the first one. when you're aiming at.
Starting point is 00:41:12 Correct. We play gentlemen rules when we play. And I still play. I just drink water. Yep. But gentlemen rules always, always win because just play the game how it's supposed to be played. If you make a cup, pull it. If you bounce it, it's two.
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Starting point is 00:44:11 Is he using the kitchen sink to brush his teeth or something? Or maybe wash, oh, you know what? Maybe he's washing off the tattoos. Could have been, I don't know if Alex had tattoos on. He did. He had a spray. Did he have it on? Is that neck one actually a real one?
Starting point is 00:44:21 I think the neck one's real. Oh, okay. But I think he did have something else that he was doing. He had the airbrush tattoos on. So I think he was just... Not the problem, but yeah. No, not at all. I think he's just washing off his tattoos.
Starting point is 00:44:30 And she's like, why are you doing that here? We have, like, five bathrooms now. like she's just picking fights now because she's she's sad i think that this all goes back that's why i called it out the beginning of this episode this is all going back to everything going on in her life she's a lot of shit going on and i respect that and people deal with it in their own way and this is she's not handling it great but i think that the root of that is what she admitted like i'm not good at asking people for help because i feel like i'm burdening them and i think that a lot of people can relate to that so yeah but and i get that and i feel bad for summer in that moment but when
Starting point is 00:45:00 she goes on to start talking about how she's empathizing with somebody like Jordan, she's empathizing with a couple of her other friends in the house. They should be able to know that she's going through shit even when she's not saying it. Yeah, but it's not their job to pull it out of her necessarily. It's not their job to pull it out
Starting point is 00:45:17 of her, but it is their job to notice when she's down and say, are you good? I think that maybe don't put a blanket on and hide in a fucking cabinet when she's fighting with somebody. I agree with that. I think that other people could be more aware in trying to help her out. But I Because of the whole Alex of it all, they're like, kind of like...
Starting point is 00:45:33 Quite possibly, that could be giving them a sour taste in the mouth. But I think that also it's like, again, with how she handles confrontation thus far, because she gets so defensive, because she has so much going on and she's not processing it great, I think that people are afraid to broach the topic because they're like, every time something goes on, even when you have, let's say, when she was being supportive of Jordan, right? When Jordan was going through it with her hair, summer went in there to try to comfort her all of that, then later uses that almost as ammo. She's like, well, I was there supporting her, and she's not even going to support me.
Starting point is 00:46:07 I think that because of how she's handled certain situations, people are afraid that if they try to help, it may cause more confrontation. I think with the Jordan of it all, and I'm kind of annoyed with Jordan just because they are friends. Summer and Jordan are friends. We've talked about this pretty much the whole season. They got really close after last season. I didn't really have an issue with the fact that summer was bringing that out because
Starting point is 00:46:28 that's how summer feels. Summer feels alone right now because she's going through shit and when people gang up on her, nobody's there to help her. That's fair. And Jordan should be there to help her because you're friends. Jordan's just not doing that. She's avoiding and hiding and then turning it back on her. I think the problem is for whatever reason they're not going to help her. Think about Cheney's.
Starting point is 00:46:48 When they went through that whole thing where Cheney's was, somebody said that Chenees dressed the worst in the house. Right. Four girls went up there to check on Cheney's. That was a ridiculous thing to get pissed off about and go cry in a bathroom about. but you were drunk. I don't think it's ridiculous. It was ridiculous. It wasn't even meant to be malicious.
Starting point is 00:47:04 It was just she took it the wrong way and she ran upstairs and cried. There you go. But no one has done that with summer. But again, take it back to the root of the Shanese thing. And I agree, look, it didn't need to get to that level, maybe. But if she's also, that again, that had more to do with what was going on in her life. And then that comment reminded her of different things. It wasn't just about the outfit, right?
Starting point is 00:47:23 It was underlying issues. But again, how Summer addressed that, she's not. coming off great this season because she's dealing with so much shit, I think, that she's abrasive when she's, like, when she says that comment about Sheenise's outfits, it's like, whoa, weird shot to take. Like, he didn't have to do that. Didn't have to, but. So I think that you're correct.
Starting point is 00:47:43 I'm not saying you're wrong. And that the other women in the house or the dudes in the house, just her friends could be doing a better job of, hey, what's up? Like, we're here. And you're right. If you look at how they handle other problems in the house, people are very quick to be supportive. And that's something that we like about this group is their emotional intelligence.
Starting point is 00:48:00 Even the way that Summer breaks down what she's going through, she makes it very clear. There's no real question mark. She's very aware, like, I have this going on and this going on. It's causing me to do this, this, and this. Yeah. It's very emotionally intelligent. So I agree with you. They should be, there should be more support for her.
Starting point is 00:48:15 But I think that how she's handled situations thus far, how she started some confrontations in the house, are turning people off to the idea of trying to be there. It's probable, yeah. So I think that maybe it's part of that And that's pretty much what we see in this last scene Where it's all the girls in the room And at this point Full blackout again
Starting point is 00:48:34 I think that she's going to take anything she hears Negatively even when they're not talking about her Like Noel is making like laughing about the wig Summer thinks it's about her She gets pissed and leaves the room Noelle tries to go after she's not hearing it It all just explodes And I think that at that point of the night
Starting point is 00:48:50 It's like you guys need to like shut it down Summer we need to try to get her to bed and reconvene in the morning and try it. Hopefully that's what comes from this. Hopefully it's not let's all turn our back on summer because she lost her shit last night. Hopefully it is, hey guys, that was weird.
Starting point is 00:49:06 Summer's clearly going through some stuff. Let's rally tomorrow and try to get to the bottom of it and show her that, hey, you are supported in this house and hey, are you my favorite all the time? No. And that's me personally. And also a lot of people in the house, I would assume. Yeah. But you're our friend. You're part of this house. This house is very good at rallying
Starting point is 00:49:24 behind their friends as we see with Phil and the dudes when they get behind each other's back not behind each other when they have each other's back so yeah I hope that that's what comes from it I don't know if that's what's going to come from it but here's what I really hope happens and this would be ideal for me Natalie does some stupid shit
Starting point is 00:49:40 and all the girls rally together because they're like Natalie sucks I don't know if that's going to happen it's such a weird dynamic with the girls and that's what I was talking about earlier where even when they are friends somebody could do one thing and then they kind of break the team apart and go somewhere else. So we see a lot of that. And we don't see that with the dudes enough. But we see
Starting point is 00:49:57 that with the girls a lot. And it kind of drives me a little crazy because you get somebody in that moment where Summer's obviously very drunk and freaking out. Noel being a good friend, chases her down, trying to calm her down. Jordan puts the blanket on and goes and hide in a cabinet. Like, no, that's your friend. You know, she's clearly screaming and running through the house. Maybe just see what's up because you're not involved. You know, you're not going to walk over there and catch a stray. You're going to walk over there and try to calm her down. Maybe figure it out. You might catch a straight, but you know what, deal with it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:26 I have a problem with somebody like Brea who seems to always pop off on everybody whenever the fuck she feels like it because they have to walk on eggshells around her. Yes. Sitting there laying in bed smiling because Summer's going off on a tangent. And she's like, I'm not going to get involved in that. Or somebody like, Sheenice, who's friends with Summer doing the same thing. Go and try to calm her down. Don't hide in your room and laugh about it and then slam the door shut when you hear her coming back up. Try to deal with it.
Starting point is 00:50:49 Yeah, you're making the situation way worse. And, like, Brea's trying to hide behind the, like, oh, it's not a big deal, whatever, like, the smirking as she's going through it, that you know that's going to set her off. I'm like, you know exactly what that's going to do, and you don't have to do that. God forbid anybody did that to Brea. She would lose her shit. She'd grab her dog and she'd try to leave. She would tell Simon to book flights back to Germany, we're getting the hell out of here. And then Simon would go in the hot tub and not listen to her.
Starting point is 00:51:14 Correct. Which would be a funny scene. Jack Harlow. He does look like Jack Harlow. But, yeah, I mean, that's the episode. So for the most part, and like I said, this is a great season of TV. They're on day 9 of 15 to keep everybody updated. I do.
Starting point is 00:51:29 I like that they keep the tracker. I need the tracker. Yeah, I need the tracker at all the tracker. And I need more truth booth. Why have it if we're not going to use it? It's a good question. Maybe at the end of the season, they're just going to give us a compilation of truth booths. Sort of like a blooper reel.
Starting point is 00:51:45 Yeah, it's at the end. Yeah, I can do that. A bloop booth. Or they're going to save it all for the reunion. and break it out of the reunion and we're going to get the truth-proof then. If they do that, I would like that, but I still... There's no way they're going to do that.
Starting point is 00:51:57 We're smarter than these people. If you're going to have it, dude, incorporate it into the show. I know, I agree. It's a great idea. It's a great idea. Use it. I agree. This is a funny question just because this person doesn't know Phil's name. Jassene said,
Starting point is 00:52:15 would you have accepted the toilet shitter's apology? I can't remember his name. Um, I would have done the same thing the guys did. I've been like, yeah, whatever it did. Well, you know what? The thing was, Nick started off with the, I don't have time for this, and Amir was trying to go back at him. And I get, you haven't seen him since last year, but is it fucking worth it?
Starting point is 00:52:35 Not really. You just kind of accept the apology and move on. That's what I'm saying. I would have said, like, yeah, they were good. Like, I wouldn't have given it that much effort. I wouldn't have really believed him out of that. I'd just be like, yeah, cool. Like, this happened a year ago.
Starting point is 00:52:48 Um, Pamcakes three. Pancakes. Should Mariah be allowed back in the house due to the fact that Summer's behavior is being accepted? Look, I mean, if you want to say that, I guess technically Noelle pushed, or sorry, Summer pushed Noel, but again, it was kind of like a, and she shoves her. And then she goes, yeah, I push Noel. You're happy now? Yeah, no, I don't see any problem with that because they are actually friends. Yeah, and there's no issue there.
Starting point is 00:53:14 And we know that Summer's going through stuff. We didn't know if Mariah was going through anything. And for all we know, she wasn't going through anything. just starting shit and she actually put her hands on somebody so no yeah i think they're different situations yeah i think so too uh claire archibald said what are your thoughts on the state of ameer's relationship right now over under on it lasting it's gonna last longer than it should because of ameer he's going to push for it to be a good relationship if his post on instagram isn't an indicator of that i don't know what will will it go the distance i hope not
Starting point is 00:53:51 for his sake. I would certainly hope not. I guess we'll see. And one last one here from Baddankadunk. What did you think of Alex's watch what happens live where he defended himself
Starting point is 00:54:01 in regards to fuck boy allegations? Did you watch any of that? No, I didn't. I didn't, but I can hear it. You can hear it, exactly. And what you're thinking is exactly what he did where he's just talking about
Starting point is 00:54:12 his spirituality and where he is in life and everything else. Every fuck boy has the same defense. It's either a spiritual thing. They're going through something or that's just who they are. Yeah, he was in complete denial of it, but... It's always the misunderstood approach.
Starting point is 00:54:25 Yeah, exactly. So I don't really think anything much of that. But that's all I got. Yeah, I think. I got one more thing. Our live show is in a few days. By the time you're hearing this, it's in two days. Yep.
Starting point is 00:54:36 One day, because this is probably going to come out Thursday because VPR comes out tomorrow. There you go. So it's tomorrow. If you haven't gotten a ticket yet, buy a ticket, come down to D.C. If you're already living in D.C., you definitely should have a ticket. But we got Candace Dillard, Chris Bassett, Ryan Bailey. steal Russell and the one and only Goots McShutes
Starting point is 00:54:53 Oh fuck I should have saved that one for an intro That was a good one Goose Mc Shoots is solid I'll bring it back but Go get your tickets Link is in the bio And other than that Rob Bros are out here
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