Bros & Shows - Summer Should Be Fun. Kyle? Not Fun. (Summer House Full Recap)

Episode Date: March 26, 2026

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It's time we started hunting them. I can work with that. This should be tons of fun. Marvel Television's Daredevil, Born Again, now streaming only on Disney Plus. Andy Cohen said that this was the worst Kyle episode that he'd ever seen. What do you think about that? I don't see like I don't know because Andy has a it is a knack for doing that and being like oh it's it's the most like he said it about Salt Lake City this is he speaks in hyperbole. So he certainly does but he has to understand and I'm sure he does to a certain extent and it gets viewership of course.

But then everybody, the takeaway is like all right, Andy. This one was a little different but I will say is this really any different from I mean it's exacerbated. But is it really any different from Kyle behavior that we've seen in the last 10 years? Like even Amanda said so. I've been doing this for 10 years. It's like, yeah, I mean, the levity of the situation and the timing of everything for sure. But it's not really that much different than what we've seen him do to Amanda before. We'll talk about it shortly.

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Good evening, everybody. Welcome back to the episode of Prov Bros. Your favorite podcast from the Bros. For everybody, for whoever wants to listen. I am your co-host, Your Russell, joined as always by the one and only Hampton Goots. What's up, dude? Back in the Hamptons for a little old party. This is, I know I'm on the record of saying, I do want to slightly do away with the themed parties.

And I remember now why the theme parties are so important. And it's not because they look fun. It's not because everybody shows up that's invited and they're not in theme. It's the very important, very serious conversations that happen when they're in full makeup and full costume. I forget about that until it happens. We get one great moment every year. And this is the party that it happens. And it's Kyle's birthday.

So happy birthday, Kyle, I think. Yes. Is it a happy birthday? It's like a somber, a weird feeling. birthday. Uncomfortable, let's pretend. It's a compartmentalization birthday. Okay. Yeah. Is that like a new midlife crisis? Is that what we're calling it? Yeah, I think so. The compartmentalization birthday happens when you are really mean to your spouse, but your birthday's the next day and they must compartmentalize to get through the day. You could argue this was a compartmentalization

marriage. That's one way to put it for sure. Yeah. That's definitely one way to put it. But no, I think, you know, we talked about it in a cold opening with Andy, just, you know, going on radio Andy, giving everybody the expectation that this is the worst Kyle Cook episode that he's seen in 10 years. Yeah, like you said, he talks in hyperbole. I don't think this is the worst Kyle Cook episode. It's awful what he did in the beginning of the episode.

But is it the worst Kyle Cook episode? I just don't, I don't even think it cracks the top three. Like, I think we've seen way worse behavior from him. You already alluded to the timing, right, is obviously a big part of it. the levity is different than we've seen in the past. I think it's probably like a feel thing. You know, Andy's with them. He's probably talked to Kyle and Amanda since they got separated.

And everybody in the house continues to say, like, it just feels different this time. So maybe that's why, because in the past, we weren't talking divorce. We weren't talking separation. We were just getting through this tumultuous marriage that we've seen. So maybe because of the stakes, it was the worst. Yeah, I can, I can wrap my head around that one. I do think it's really funny, though, that the discourse, and it's not just us, everybody is using Andy's comment as the base for everything.

Like, what we're doing is we're debating really if Andy was right. And I don't want to say it takes away from the episode at all, but it is kind of funny that it's like, Hey, let's, let's everybody open discourse. Was Andy right? Like, no, I don't think so. But like, it's also subjective. There is no right answer. Exactly.

Yeah. It's going to affect everybody differently. But yeah, I think it's just, it's kind of interesting when you, when you lay it out like that because it feels so different. And I had to remind myself, honestly, because going into the season, we knew what was going to happen. We had the conversation before the season even started. We're like, uh, yeah, I get timing and everything.

And it's a real relationship. So do what you're going to do. and news is going to get out. But I wish I didn't know. And then as the season started, I'm like, no, actually, I'm happy that I know because there is like an end goal in sight. It's not like the typical, you know, fight that we see Amanda and Kyle have where he just treats her like dog shit.

And then we're like, God, Amanda, please get out of it. So at least we have that. It's sort of a very, very sad and depressing silver lining when you really think about it. But at the same time, I didn't think, like, I thought we were going to watch like the fall of everything. We were going to watch it just kind of happened. I thought you were going to see the Carl Kyle, like, where he chases him out from and, like, goes after. I'm so excited for that.

I am so excited for that. But I think that what I was expecting was more of the same pretty much the whole season. It's like, okay, we can tell Amanda's checked out. So at some point, she's just going to be like, I can't do this anymore. I had to remind myself like, oh, fuck, there was a very big probability there was going to be some really bad shit that happens. There was going to be a really big blowup fight that happens where you feel bad for Amanda. and it's not just like, all right, we can tell Amanda's moved on. So at some point she just kind of just calls it quits.

That's not really what happens. But again, we have that silver lining because we're not sitting here talking about, which we've talked about for the last six years. We're not sitting here talking about Amanda, you got to leave. Like she already left. So there's that. I guess. Thumbs up.

Yeah. Yeah. Sideways, maybe. Sideways thumb. Yeah. I don't know. That's a tough one. It's a very strange thing to discuss week to week.

Because again, we know what's going on. and like it's just analyzing the divorce of a couple. It's like, if you're kind of dirt, I got to go take a shower. We actually, we've said this before like, I think within the first two years of us doing this,

we did revisit that where we're like, yeah, we shouldn't be talking about this. We shouldn't be privy to this. I honestly, I think that we don't care anymore. It just is what it is. You signed up for it.

We also, it's like, oh, that's an interesting thing to do on camera. But yeah. But yeah, let's get into this episode because there's a lot to discuss in the beginning. The first like 30 minutes of the show was pretty packed and then it's kind of just the party, which is fine. It's been to such a good season that they could have an entire episode of just ho-hum and I'd be fine.

But we returned to the house after going out in Hamptons. Ben is carrying Amanda into the house like a toddler. So keep a note of that one. I can't wait to tell you that I was right. But the vibes overall are good. Like it's a good vibes. Like good night. Everyone's having fun.

So I'm like, oh, nice. Like the whole crew is happy. Everybody's happy. No, they're not because a lot of the group goes outside, right? They're hanging out. They're having fun. I have a lot to say about the conversation being had outside. We'll talk about that in a sec.

But Kyle's inside alone. And he's starting to get butt hurt because nobody's hanging out with him on his birthday. So he goes outside with a speaker and starts blaring music at people and doing a silly dance. And it breaks up the party. And then he tells his wife, fuck you. That's, did I sum it up pretty well? You summed it up perfectly. I mean, we've seen this behavior from Kyle before.

And usually someone else is at the center of, of his angst, if you want to call it that. This was embarrassing. I mean, this, this sums up who Kyle is, which, you know, Now, again, we've talked about it before. He's not like a bad dude, but you can't do this to your wife, of course. But his antics, his behaviors of just being alone inside, still playing music and still DJing, and then looking around and being like, whoa, no one's here. Let me bring the party to them.

That's what they want. Like, no, dude. They went outside to the hot tub. Like, be a normal person. No one gives a fuck about your DJing. Be a normal person. If a normal person, any of us, we're sitting in a setting where we go outside, we're in the hot tub.

I would argue that the party was already breaking up. Like they were out of the hot tub and then sitting by the door. Yeah, dude, they're drying off from the hot tub. And they're getting ready to go inside and go to bed. And he comes out with a speaker and he's like, listen to this new mix I just did and then does a weird quirky dance at 45 years old. He looks like the guy from six flags, like getting out of the bus. And that's mean to the guy.

Do not disparage the guy from six flags. Yeah. I know. That's mean to him. But that's the best comparison I can come up to. It's like, no one, no one asked for this. We don't want to do this. Like, all right, Kyle.

we get it. It's your birthday. You're 43 years old, but like, happy birthday. Let's go to bed. We've got a big party tomorrow. No, you guys hate me. And especially my wife, she hates me the most. She gave me those eyes. Like, what are we doing? Like, it's just, it's embarrassing. It's embarrassing. It's embarrassing. It's just that's where my head immediately before anything pops off. Right. And I would like to say, again, for the record, as you said, we don't think Kyle's a bad bad. person. I don't think Kyle's a bad dude. I think in future seasons and future endeavors when I see Kyle Cook from now on now that he's divorced, I'll like him. My issue is that he's with Amanda doing all this stuff and seemingly doesn't understand why it's problematic for Amanda, which drives me nuts week to week. But my first thought when he comes out with the speaker is I've been at these parties, right? I've been at that moment at the end of the night where you know, you're having a heart to heart with somebody or it's like five of you just goofing around and getting ready to go to bed, you're little tipsy, little tired.

You're like, all right, let's hit it. And then you get that one random person that comes in, and they're way too energetic for the end of the night. You're like, oh, God, I'm going to bed. Like, that's it. I mean, that's all I got from that. But the other part for me, obviously the whole thing devolves into one of the probably tougher fights that we've seen just because of the emotion involved and where we know

it's all going. So when he comes out there, my initial thought is not like, oh, God, they're pissed off and Kyle. It's just like, dude, it's just not the right vibe. I don't even think they were upset or irritated. I think they're like, all right, like you said, like, all right, that's it. Let's call it a night. Now, throughout the evening, as this whole thing escalates inside, his big issue is that he feels

once again as though he's been ignored, as though his wife doesn't pay him attention. She doesn't want to hang out with him. She hates him, according to him. Here's my thing. All right, and I talk to Dev about it, too. At this juncture of your marriage, your wife is checked out. You know that your wife is checked out. It's not a mystery.

she's making it very clear that she's not as engaged in this thing as she has been in the past. If you want to hang out with her, you have to go hang out with her. If she's hanging out with your friends and you're talking to a bunch of random strangers, probably because they know who you are and you like that feeling, that's your fault. Go over there and stand next to your wife. You have to literally placate for an extended period of time to just get back to neutral with her. That is your role now because of the dynamic.

that you have set up between the two of you. She's not going to go chasing after you. You are doing everything she told you not to do. So in my head, when he's complaining about her not paying attention to him, you should be on her shoulder all the time if you really want this to work. You should be making the effort. You should be going and hanging out with her friends in the city that you don't like and that you don't know that well.

You should be making all of the efforts if you really want this whole thing to work, which leads me to my point, he's out too. He's just trying to figure out a way to break it off. Not in a, not, I don't want to minimize it. I don't mean it like,

he's just like, I want this marriage to be over. I think he recognizes what's going on too. And I think at this juncture, they're both going their separate ways. But Amanda understands that. Kyle is still holding on to something. But it's,

I think it's ridiculous that he gets mad at her. You're ignoring me. You're doing this. You're doing that. You should be waiting on her hand and foot. if you want this to work out in my opinion. Yeah, and that's the disconnect because I would argue that he's actually not. I mean, maybe he's a little out, but he sees it way differently.

Amanda's moving in that direction of this is not going to work. It's Kyle's to save, right? Like she's going like if you can figure this out, great. But he doesn't realize that. That's not where he is. And that's that actually just kind of points to and I'm not excusing his behavior, but that shows you what his behavior is. He's the guy who is going to continue to party because he,

feels like his life is in shambles. His wife hates him in his mind. His business is failing. He doesn't know what to do. He's just grasping at straws to try to make everything work. He's trying to hold everything together. And when it comes to going to the Hamptons, which we've seen time and time again, he's going to keep the party going. And this was exactly that in a bottle. This was him trying to keep the party going so that he doesn't have to return to reality. That's what he's doing. And then when that happens and everybody else is like, no, we don't want to do this anymore. He gets mad and he gets mad at the only person that he feels like he can blame, which is Amanda, and she gives them the eyes like, Kyle, it's time to go to bed.

I can't believe that you're doing this right now. Let's just do it. Like, I'm exhausted. I don't want to feel like this anymore. And instead, he views that as, oh, she's saying, fuck you. No. And that shows you where he is. That's the disconnect from everything.

He's looking at it like she's actually moving out, which is true. She is getting out of it. But because of his actions, he doesn't see that part of it. He sees, she's moving away from me. I don't know what to do. She needs to make more of an effort to try to get closer to me. And that's where he is. And that's what he's been saying pretty much all season.

And we've laughed at every time, every single time he goes to a confession. He's like, I just don't get it. She doesn't ask me questions about my life. He just doesn't understand where she is, where everybody else is looking at it. Like, dude, how do you not get this? He truly doesn't. Like, he truly does not get it. He's not making excuses.

He's not trying to spin it into something that it's not. He truly just doesn't understand exactly what's going on. That's what it comes into in a nutshell. So it's tough to watch, honestly. I mean, obviously the way that he talked to his wife is really tough to watch. But even his behavior was really tough to watch because it's a guy that just has no fucking clue what's going on. And he really should. And everybody's trying to tell him, his wife included.

And he just simply doesn't get it. And he refuses to understand where she's coming from. Yeah. And when you take this convo and you pair it with the one we saw last week in the kitchen in New York, she literally said to you, if you weren't doing this, we could spend time together. Yeah. So you want her to pay attention to you on your schedule. that's not how a marriage works.

And that's not what she's signed up for either. So it makes a lot of sense to me that she's tapping out, leaving the door open for you to take that step through it. But you get home from your DJing from wherever the hell you were, Vegas, California, it doesn't matter. You're gone from Thursday to Sunday probably. You get back on Monday and you're probably doing the same shit the next Thursday. And in the meantime, you're working lover boy.

So there's no time for her. but then when you're free and you do have time, now it's her job to go over there and spend time with you, but not vice versa. A good thing for us, at least, because I just thought about this scenario and I don't like it at all. If he was realizing what was going on and he was really like pining for her attention,

he was trying to understand, and he was doing a thing where just in this summer, he was trying to prove to her like, I love you and I want to make this work. and she was out. That would be so much harder to watch. I'm sorry, but that would be depressing as hell. At least now it's like, dude, like, come on.

Like, get a fucking clue. Like, you have to understand what's going on. So at least we're approaching it from that perspective. And I think everybody is a whole. Like, this is one thing that the whole Bravo audience has to understand. Like, dude, especially after this episode, everybody should be on board of, yeah, good thing they broke up. If it was the other way around. They got divorced.

Yeah. Well, they're not, I don't think they're actually. you officially divorced yet they're separated. But either way, I mean, they're heading for divorce. It doesn't really matter semantics. But for the other scenario that I just played out in my head, that would be really sad. And I'm happy that we don't have to watch that. This is much, it sucks to watch.

And I'm glad that everybody in the house checked them and we'll get into that in a second. But yeah, it would be really depressing the other way around. Yeah, I agree. That's a good point. But that's pretty much what we do after the blowup is we're checking in with like two people at a time talking. and check you. Yeah, I don't know what happened to everybody because, I mean, I know I was surprised when we get to the morning after and like Lindsay pops up and Carl pops up because week to week, I don't remember who's actually at the house. Like I know Levi's not there, I think. Bailey's not there.

Maybe she comes that day. Bailey's not there. So I always forget who's actually there. And in this scenario, we've got, you know, we've got Ben, West, Sierra and Amanda all sitting outside and Kyle comes out. So there's four people there. Ben and Sierra just go missing. Like I'm, I'm a little confused as to where Sierra went. Like Sierra just went to bed and she was done. Yeah, I know Mia said later she just went to bed. She just couldn't take it anymore and she was exhausted. But in the middle of this fight.

Sierra was out there. Sierra was out there. Sierra was out there and was there when Kyle said, oh, the aftermath. But the aftermath of her going up to the bath and like Sierra didn't go to check on her. Sierra went to bed. She probably did. And then like that was such a quick like I just need a minute and they didn't have a

conversation. So maybe it wasn't worth putting on. I don't know. Or maybe they wanted to highlight. the west part of it probably yeah because the first time we've seen him like step up in that way to like actually right get involved which was great it was incredible but and like i'm not knocking anybody i was just genuinely confused i was like where did everybody go why are we not why is everybody not like ganging up on kyle right now because that would have been better but i mean i what we got from

west is absolutely perfect and we'll talk about that in a sec i was just genuinely confused i'm like where the fuck did everybody go what the hell where's her back in the morning they were out all night i'm I'm sure the CPs came in. Yeah, as soon as you face plant in bed, you're just asleep. Done. You blink and it's 9 a.m. the next day with a hangover. But anyway, as we're going through the house, West comes up to Amanda. She's in the bathroom sobbing.

And I'm just going to mention it now. She talks about it later. That's a huge sign. She's like, I haven't cried in a long time. It's the first time I really cried. She's in the bathroom sobbing and West goes to check on her. And he points it out. like that was so unprovoked.

Like that was crazy. I've seen shit between you guys before, but nothing like that. And here's the hard part, the hardest part when this shit pops off late. Kyle's fucking obliterated. Like there's nothing. There's not going to be any peace here. No. But he also doesn't go to sleep.

So now you have this like really weird interaction where Amanda's crying in the bathroom. Kyle is hammered. West has tried to talk him down and say, hey, you got to go say you're sorry. He says nothing happened outside. It's like, Jesus, like that's the battle that we're currently

fighting. And then when he goes to the bathroom, he apologizes and then calls her a fucking dumbass bitch because he felt ignored by her.

Like, that is insane to call her. I don't care what the parameters are. I don't care that you feel like she's ignored you for a long time. I don't care that we're

going to play a stupid montage later that tries to make it look like she takes digs at you all the time, despite the fact that you do this other shit, but we're going to point that out. Okay, cool. It's just, it's so tough to watch, honestly. Like, that was not a fun part of this episode to watch him continue to do that. And then I

thought the saddest part, honestly, is how unfazed she is by it now. When she walks out, yeah, I'm my fucking dumbass bitch, I guess. I'm like, damn, like, she has built up such a shell to this because of all that over the years that she's not even faced. Yeah. Yeah, that's the toughest part. And honestly, the montage, I'm not going to blame because it wasn't like a sympathy montage. It wasn't like, all right, let's like try to get some people on Kyle's team to show you like how the straw he is. The only thing I took away from that is it's got to be fucking hard as balls to try to have a relationship through reality TV. Oh shit. I know. Those comments, like I remember those comments. She was annoyed with Kyle. Like, whatever. I don't fucking care. But she's talking to her friends. Like,

that doesn't get back to somebody. And I'm not even like, I'm just going to say person A and person B. because it did nothing for sympathy for Kyle. But in a normal relationship, if you're on a reality TV show and you have to go watch, and I assume you're watching with your wife, and you're like, what the fuck?

Why'd you say that about me? Well, I was right after you were just drunk as shit the night before and you were being an asshole. Obviously, we've gotten over it. But yeah, I mean, that's how I felt in the moment. It's like, that's got to be so difficult in any relationship to go through that. Again, not making an excuse for Kyle

because I think all of his excuses are ridiculous. Yeah. And we get back to West again because we go check with Ben. Ben talks to West for a sec. And the only thing we really get out of that is that Ben's wondering who this guy is. It's like, I've never seen this version of Kyle in my life, which then is interesting. Because it's like, what's he like when he's not on the summer house, right? Yeah.

Well, you know what, though? We don't know exactly what their relationship is because I know the couple that shows up the next day. That's Ben's friend. I don't remember. I know Katie is the wife. I thought was Kyle's friend because I was like is all of their friends Australian no no no that's that's Ben's best friend like one of his best friends that's the wedding that they were at in Italy that couple that comes okay okay so that's their connection and Katie is Amanda's best

friend so that's their so when they show like Kyle and Amanda's friends it's really just Amanda's friends but that's their whole connection is all the way through all of that so I would imagine yeah like he's not on the show but again he's not working and he's not DJing he's in Italy for a a weekend for a wedding that's probably ben's extent so he knows them from out of that but he hasn't lived with him and that's that's a big component of this episode too because everybody talks about it too and i'm so thankful for me too she's such a great presence in the house but she says it too she's like yeah i mean this is going to happen when you're living together west says it too you're not only are you guys friends and you're all together and you want to support everybody and

try to make sure everybody's okay but then you're living together so you get to see these moments more you're way more privy to these moments than you would be just kind of going out in the Yeah. Yeah, I agree. That's a good point. But the part that, again, to me, is more anti-Kyle than it is Amanda. When he's talking to West, he's like, she spent more time with you than me in the last six months. Yeah.

Where you've been? Yeah. You've been DJing across the country, dude. Like, again, you're doing a career that she explicitly said, please don't do this. She's asked you to stop drinking. No. She asked you to stop staying out late. No.

You've got a career. doing both of those. And then you're gone two, three, four days a week. And then when you come back, you're working at Loverpoint. So again, when is she supposed to hang out? Why? I think the better question Kyle should be asking himself when he's clearly thinking about that, like drunk thought or drunk words or sober thoughts or whatever, the West part

of it all, instead of being upset that she spent more time with West, maybe ask yourself, why she spent more time with West. Yeah. It's not that hard to understand. Like you've been gone for a whole year. Again, and that just speaks to his mental state. Yeah. We can sit here.

Everybody knows. Everybody watching understands. He doesn't. He just simply doesn't understand it. It's just, yeah, quite clearly. But it's still really hard to rat my head around because it seems so fucking obvious. I gave up on it. Yeah, I don't know.

Well, we get to the next morning and, you know, Kyle's in a confessional. This is another Kyle trope. This was wild. No excuse for fuck you, but no, I'm out. The minute you say but, and he always has a butt, you can only take so much. And I thought it was in my own head until I watched the show back and we get that little montage of her taking digs out of him. It's like, dude, that is not only that.

He did. This was fucking. I laughed out loud at this. He goes through and he's like, yeah, I understand me getting drunk and me going to DJ, me not being around. I understand that we've got those issues and like, I get it. But there's fundamental issues wrong with our relationship. And I'm like, dude, you just names them.

Steaming from what, dumbass? Like, God. It's so funny. It was so fucking funny. I'm like, how, like, what do you mean? He almost said, like, he almost labeled them. and then was like, yeah, but there's real fundamental. I'm like, you just named the fundamental issues.

What do you mean? Why don't you start there? Like, that just shows you, again, he doesn't label those, the things that he just brought up, the things that he's quote unquote aware of, which, you know, I don't even think he's aware of them. I think he just knows that's what Amanda's mad about. The things that he labeled right there, he doesn't see them as fundamental issues. He sees whatever else, but he's never naming the fundamental issues.

Like, he goes back to like them not having sex or something. And it's like, okay, just revisited. those three things that you just brought up maybe that would help maybe you're not spending enough time with her maybe you're not being the person that she thought you were going to be i don't know start there sleeping in fan's houses at 4 30 in the morning like what do you do something like i don't know but it was just very funny to me because i'm like oh my god like he really doesn't get it like that that's the nail in the coffin for he just truly doesn't understand what's going on here it's just it's wild it's absolutely wild because i understand what he's trying to say i give her this ammo

because I do stupid little things that piss her off. And so we don't ever get to the fundamental issues because she's mad at me for drinking. She's mad at me for staying out late. Even if it wasn't the drinking or the staying out late specifically, every issue you guys have stems from those three things that you named. Like that's my whole thing. And I'm like ripping my hair out.

Like how do we not put two and two together? he's not a stupid person he's not so when he does this shit I'm like do you just have blinders on because you don't want to be the reason you guys got divorced like is that part of it blinders it's absolutely blinders I again I don't think that he doesn't want

to be the like I don't even think he's he's gotten to the point of this isn't going to work like I don't even think that's an option in his brain at this point yeah I think he truly is like because we've seen that before and usually we can identify pretty quickly where it's like ah the relationship's failing you don't want to be the one to actually do it.

You want, you know, A, you don't want to be the one to actually end it. B, you don't want to be the reason why it ended. So you're going to try to scramble and try to figure out ways where you can blame the other person. Like, we see that coming from a fucking mile away. This is, he hasn't even gotten to that point yet. He's still like, she's going to break. Like, she's going to understand where I am and she's going to understand what I'm doing

for our quote unquote family. And then she's going to accept it and we're going to be good. Like, I think that's where he is. That's my best guess anyway. Yeah, I don't know, dude. It's like banging my head against the wall. But anyway, Sierra and Mia are talking. And Mia thanks Sierra for bringing up that very powerful conversation they had regarding

race in the house and on reality TV in general. That was a much needed conversation. And you get a really good explanation for people that don't understand it. And there's plenty of them out there of what an ally is, of what people are looking for in these kinds of situations. They don't want you to say that you get it, that you understand. They want to feel like you support them

and understand that you will never understand. But you're there, you have their back, they feel like they can talk to you about these uncomfortable things. And the more Sierra talked about it, the more it became obvious. It's like,

this has probably been on her brain for her tenure on the show. And I think it speaks volumes to the people in the house. And I think it speaks much more volumes about Sierra, Mia, and KJ for being able to broach this topic and to feel supported enough to do so. Like I thought it was just, again, like a continuation of that conversation. It was just a really cool moment to see. And I don't know, they articulate it so well and explain the whole situation so well that I would imagine they're doing a lot of good for people watching, people understanding and people getting where, like what they're saying.

So hats off to Sierra Mia and KJ once again. Yeah, I mean, I would hope so, but you know this fucking country. Who the hell knows? Great point. No, I mean, I was happy to see the continuation of the conversation, especially between the three of them, because we've seen similar conversations and it's like, okay, like, you know, maybe it was just that in like in a bottle. Like, and then we don't address it again. This is good because this shows like, all right, like they all feel like the information was received. You know what I mean?

Where it's like, okay, we have a good conversation about it because we've seen conversations about race go completely sideways. We've seen the aftermath of it where it's like, I don't think they fucking get it. I don't think that they heard us. I don't think they actually understood what we were talking about. They weren't listening, whatever it may have been. This was different. And this, again, goes to show you like, this is maybe the best full cast of Summerhouse in recent memory. Like in a very long time.

Between support and also just like fun, entertaining. there's drama there's so much shit going on like in terms of just all a whole piece of a good cast this is the best that we've had in a long time no i agree i agree and i think this scene actually highlights that and i think the bigger thing is just it's good that they feel comfortable oh you know by the way this is a this is a really good time for me to say this ben he's no there's his luster has worn off i'm done with ben i'm i'm discarding him kj yeah King. Yeah, KJ is, I know he's with Darren and they're very happy and they love each other.

They profess their love on Watch Rapids Live, which, you know, makes me uncomfortable. But those are the things that make me uncomfortable. No, KJ is replaced. And Ben, he was good looking. He's got no personality. I'm sorry. He just doesn't. He brings nothing else to the table aside from an Australian accent.

Yeah, he's pretty bland. He's pretty bland. But moving right along. Actually, one more thing, because I agree with Sierra, I would kill. for KJ. He's such a sweet man. Oh, he really is. We need more KJs in the world. But we get to Lindsay and Amanda and, you know, they're talking about the Carl Lindsay stuff, which is objectively very funny. And I enjoy it every single time, especially they seem to be

at a point where it's like they can raz a little bit. And by they, I mean, Lindsay can raz Carl and him not take it too seriously. And it's good entertainment for not only the house, but also for us at home. So that's off to them. But. She brings up the Kyle thing. He was like throwing a hissy fit. And the way that she discusses things like this, again, it goes back to dumb fucking bitch earlier,

dumb ass bitch, whatever he called her. She's talking about this. Like, it's just some ho-hum Tuesday night fight. You know, we disagreed about what to watch on TV. Yeah,

you know, Kyle, it's like, damn, like it just makes me fucking sad, dude. Yeah. Yeah,

Amanda waking up the next, morning and like just sitting there talking about it. It's like, oh no, like she's been through this before. She's bulletproof, but like at what cost? Like, how are we doing this? And to talk to somebody like Lindsay who's known Kyle for a very long time, she understands it. Like, she's been around it enough. Carl will understand as well. We have that conversation between Kyle and Carl. It's a very different situation. Lindsay gets it. She's like, oh, fuck, Kyle. What are we doing? Why are we doing this? And Amanda's like on the verge. She even says in this moment, I tried three times last night. I haven't cried in a long time. I don't remember the last time that

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She's Ken on VaynerPump Rules. Oh, yeah, but just not nearly, not nearly. as scripted as Ken was. He just knows how to bring it. Like, this is a veteran move because she's like, so how do you feel about Dara coming? She's just setting up so she can ask him.

That's all she's doing. How do you feel about Derek coming? He's like, oh, you know, kind of my head about it, don't really know what to expect. Where are you guys at right now? Now she's gauging how serious it is

before she tells him this news. She's gaining information to set up her question, which is, it's masterful work. Have you guys said he really like it? Yeah, you know, it's mutual. or kind of head over heels for each other. Oh, that's just, that's good to hear. Yeah, the Ben stuff, you know, they were flirting a little bit.

That's her teeing it up. Yeah, you know, she said it's totally nothing, just a fun person to flirt with. That's good because I just, you know, I wonder what they talked about for, for an hour in his room. Hard stop, record scratch, drop the mic, Lindsey, fucking expert level. It was so good. It was unbelievable the way that she did that. The one thing that, like, I immediately go to because we have. more conversations about this.

We saw, and there are cameras in Ben's room. We know they have the footage and they can prove it to us right now. I wrote it down. Roll the tape. Dude, like, just fucking, like, they do this. This is what production has become for Bravo. They're holding on to it. They're going to hold on to it until there's a big blow up and then they'll prove it.

Just do it now. I don't want to, like, I know you have the footage. I'm not sitting here questioning because we saw from a camera in Ben's room, the two of them in there. Did they make out? Did they do anything extra? Were they hanging out for a full hour? You guys know the answer.

Just tell us now. I know what you're doing. You're going to do a big dramatic reveal when Bailey comes to the house later that night or whatever it is. I assume that she's coming that day. I have no fucking clue. No, she's coming the next weekend. Oh, God.

So we have to wait an entire weekend. We're going to have a whole episode next week of the rest of Kyle's birthday and then probably the Sunday after and then probably throughout that week. and then next weekend's going to be the big blowup. It might be Carl Kyle. I really don't know when the timing of that's all going to take place. But we're going to have to wait so long for them to be like, we've got the footage.

Great. Thanks, guys. They're going to cliff hang us next week with this. Darrow's going to go up to Bailey to talk about it. And it's going to cliff hang us still the next week. You're so right. You are a thousand percent right. Yep.

That's what not showing the footage told me. I'm like, okay, great. So two weeks until we get to find out. Great. and you're messing with my guy KJ's heart production. And I just said I'd kill for him. Lindsay's technically messing with this. Oh, don't blame her.

Well, anyway, another Lindsay moment. Again, she doesn't think about Carl ever, ever, right? Ever, not one time. Never, ever, ever. Waste her time doing it. I wore the zebra suit to fuck with Carl. That is such an obscure pole from, deep in the fall.

That was not like a big moment on the show is when he was done. It's been a couple of references. It hasn't been a sticking point. Lindsay already has the tan lines. Like how much further do you need to go? You know he's into tan line porn. Now you're going to put on a zebra outfit with the tan lines presumably. What are we doing?

What are you trying to do to do to him? They're trying to get back together. I'm kidding, everybody. I'm kidding. I already predicted in like 10 years if they're both single, they're going to get married again. Nah, that ship is sailed, but her ship of prodding and poking him randomly to see if he can take it, that's never going to end. That'll be the rest of the lives.

Because now he's being a good sport about it. Yeah, he's being a good sport about it. Eventually, that's going to piss Lindsay off. She's going to be like, fuck that. We're going to get to in the city. And she's going to be like, this is my show, actually. So now I can do whatever the hell I want. That she's going to call him like a bitch or something.

Let's go poolside with the boys. And you got Carl and KJ. and I love these two together. Like I just think they're both just genuine people. So I like watching them talk to each other. And the Ben thing comes up. I thought Carl impart some pretty solid wisdom. It's like, look, when there's two people in the house,

involved with each other, it becomes bigger. The whole house talks about it, pretty much saying like, look, this is par for the course. Don't let this blow up what you have with Dar. It's not worth it. I'm sure you're fine. And that's kind of where my head went initially. even if she was in his room for an hour,

but then I realized pretty quickly, it's not about that. I don't think he cares so much that she was in there. It's that she didn't tell him about it. And he feels like she lied by omission. Right. And that's what he says. He goes to his confessional.

He's like, I don't, you know, it's not like we were dating. Yeah, I was really like into her right away. But then she was with Ben. I didn't know what was going to happen.

I was in my head about the whole thing. And if she's lying to me about this, what else is she lying about? Like, ooh, KJ, don't go down that hole. It's not healthy.

We don't want to go to this. But the conversation they have later is incredible. So I don't know. Maybe we needed this. I don't know, man. I just protect KJ at all costs. Yeah. Now, Ben West and Jesse chit-chatting.

And Sierra comes up to talk to everybody as well. And West is very much stuck on what happened in the bathroom, which is good. Like, this is what you want to see out of West because this shows a little bit of growth. He in the past would have. excused himself from the drama, not gotten involved, really. He's right. In this moment, like, this is when you really have to plant your flag and say, whoa, whoa, because you witnessed it.

You're tight with Kyle. You're tight with Amanda. You owe it to Amanda to come to her defense in this one. So I'm glad that he did. And they're talking about the fuck you eyes thing. And Sierra's like, are you fucking serious? Like, that's insane. Now, I am so sick of love.

lover boy being used as an out. I understand he's in the hole. I understand it's stressful as shit. I understand now that Ben told us, if lover boy goes under, he does as well because he has a $4 million loan outstanding. He's only paid off $2 million, or $2.2.2 left.

So he'd be hosed. I get it. That's a lot. I'm not taking away from what you're dealing with on the side. I am. Your wife is not your whipping post. Yeah, no. You don't get to take it out on Amanda.

This was such weird behavior from Ben to just do that in the middle of all of this. Like read the room. What are we doing? Why are we doing this? Why would you bring up that information right now? When everybody's sitting there like, hey, yeah, he did this to Amanda. She had a full blown breakdown. West was trying to help her.

Let's try to figure this whole thing out. He's like, wait a minute. But like, I know he's going through some shit. Like, why? This is not the time replaced. Like, don't be that person. It was, yeah. Yes, exactly. And that's what I said initially.

I'm so tired of lover boy being this default like, oh, shit's going wrong. Well, work's really stressful. Yeah. Everyone's work is stressful. I understand that everyone's not going to go bankrupt if their company goes under. But again, you constantly and consistently take it out on your wife. Yep. At some point, you have to adjust or change or leave work at the office.

Like, it's just, it's not a valid excuse. like earlier on like two, three years ago, I would hear and I'd be like, all right, they're working through it. She works at lover boy too. It's probably, they're probably clashing. She no longer works at lover boy as far as I know. I think she's doing her own thing with the swimsuit line. So that should be separate, dude.

Like you should be able to compartmentalize those two things. And if you can't, that's another thing that's going on with your marriage that you're doing. That's fundamentally flawed. But again, nope, that's right over his head. That's my go to. I'm really stressed about lover boy. I'm going to go bankrupt.

And we talked about it last week. She doesn't care. She just wants you. And you seem to tie your success to lover boy to your marriage and vice versa. Like the life and death of lover boy should not dictate your relationship. Yeah. And I get that. If the only concern in their relationship was Kyle works too much.

He's too stressed about work. And I keep telling him over and over again. I would stay with him no matter if we were poor, if we were broke, if we were middle class, if we weren't making money, you didn't have your own company, whatever. That would be one thing. We would have a much deeper conversation about it. We'd sit here and be like, all right, yeah, like I kind of understand Kyle's aspect. He brazed this whole thing.

This is like his baby. He's trying to put it in a good place. Fine, whatever. Amanda, I understand where you're coming from too. It's all about love. Great, perfect. But there's so many other things going on. And there's so many bigger things going on.

This is not the number one issue. This is unfortunately the number one issue. in Kyle's minds. And then he has XYZ going on over here that is obviously distancing himself from Amanda. He's not doing any of those other things. So it's not like he's trying to show an effort, but he's just so depressed and so anxious about everything that's going on. Like this is not an excuse.

It's just not. There's too many other things going on. There's too many other pitfalls for Kyle in this marriage that we can't just be like, well, you know, works really stressful. It's just not an excuse. Question for you. How much of it do you think is obviously Kyle's business has been a focal point of his on this show since he started Loverboy. It's been a very public rise and potential fall of this company.

How much of this is, and I'm not saying Pride and Eagle, like he's this egotistical, crazy, because I don't think he is. Sure. But how much of this is, I don't want to fail on TV because everyone has been along for this ride. I don't want to be seen nationally as a failure. Here's the stupidest fucking thing ever. He needs to realize, and well, it's too little too late. If he was a good husband and he was good to Amanda, lover boy would be fine. I know.

I know. That's the fucking stupidest part about all of this. He's so stressed out about lover boy And yet if you were a good person and you weren't an absolute fucking dickhead And especially a dickhead to your wife Your company would be fine because Bravo fans would buy it in droves But instead you get into a spat with Craigie down in Southern Charm Because he sided with a tea company or whatever

And they were a direct competitor and he didn't invest with you If you weren't such a fucking asshole You'd be fine You'd be making a ton of money You would actually not really have to work that much. You could probably divest. You could move on. You could have other people running the company and just drink it every weekend in Summerhouse and be an enjoyable person.

And people would be like, wow, I want to be like Amanda and Kyle and I want to buy lover boy. But instead, you're such an asshole that everybody stopped buying your product and started buying other shit. And now you're fucking losing. That's the thing. Karma is a bitch. I'm sorry. But this is like the most obvious version of be a better person. your company will be better and he just doesn't see that he's never seen that yeah yeah yeah when

you lay it out like that god that's got a sting too when yeah if it does go under like it was all public perception that was the downfall that that that's it was that was the rise that was the rise to fame people enjoyed watching you they seemed like amanda like loved you and loved your marriage and everything was great everybody's out there buying lover boy everybody wanted a piece now you're an asshole, nobody wants Lever Boy. It's a very direct correlation. You can't bring a company. Like, it's the same for everybody.

I mean, every housewife wants to do it now, too. If you're a good housewife and you're entertaining and you bring us a company, people are going to want to do it. People are going to want to buy your product. If you're an asshole or you suck and you're boring and they don't want to watch you anymore, I'm not going to go to the store and be like, oh, let me go buy this skinny margarita. That's just not how it's going to work. She doesn't need you to buy it.

She's got all the money from that. Yeah, I know. Yeah, that she did just fine. Um, but that's also a very different product than that lover boy. Yeah. No, I know. It's just the first brand that popped in my head. No, you're good.

I, I just, we like to drag Bethany here, but I will give her her business acumen is unmatched. Yeah. But anywho, the one thing I did take away because I know that we get on here and it's a Kyle Bash session and it should be because what the fuck's going on. But back to like our original. statements of like, don't, I don't think he's a bad dude. When Sierra says they should get separated because they both deserve to be happy.

That I agree with. And we've said that for years, they don't belong together. They do not make sense. Kyle's not willing to make the concessions that Amanda wants. Amanda's concessions aren't that ridiculous to ask for either. Like they're pretty standard. And she should be with somebody that will willingly want to do that, want to spend time with her not want to go DJ.

Kyle's not that guy. I would imagine, and I know everything's copacetic right now, like they're fine, they're probably going to be best friends. Like, they're probably without this stuff involved. Like, they will be really good friends. Yep. Yeah. And honestly, going back to the lover boy conversation, them not being married, people might

start to like Kyle again. And they might start buying lover boy. Who the hell knows what's going to happen there? But yeah, I agree with you. Sierra, who, we've seen it before, especially when Paige was in the house, when things were going wrong, it seems like they absolutely hated Kyle. It seems like, and Paige might actually feel that way, but it seems like they absolutely hated Kyle and there was no hope.

Sierra's saying, I want both of them to be happy, should be enough for everybody to understand where we're coming from. We're like, he's not a bad guy. It's just a shit. Like, the marriage isn't going to work. Right. That's pretty much what it is. He's being a bad guy to his wife.

Don't get a twisted. I just don't think he's inherently a bad person. No. And that realization, too, the clip of her and Mia talking about it. it. You can see it. I've never seen a light bulb pop up in somebody's head before in real time. That's what it was. And it was Sierra being like, how have I never thought about that?

It's almost what Kyle has thought. Like, we're never going to get divorced. We're just going to work through our problems. We'll be fine. She's going to understand my way of thinking. She's going to come on to my side of this. Sierra's like, holy shit, Mia, I've never thought about them actually getting a divorce. Why are they?

Light bulb, but. Yep. Anyway, we're getting the party set up. Kyle's in a weird mood. And this is where you get the line of, I give her all these reasons to be mad, you know, drinking late nights,

but there's so many fundamental things wrong with our marriage. The good news is, Karma Brown is returning to our screens. Thank God. Sierra's costumes will always and forever be the best costumes. But before we get to the costume party, me and KJ and Sierra talk. Ed KJ.

I just love, you know, I love a vulnerable dude. I love that he's so open with this stuff. He's like, I had a panic attack 30 minutes ago. I'm rethinking everything after Lindsay and I'm, everyone's telling me like,

be careful and, you know, I'm trying to stop something before it starts to protect myself, all of those tropes, you know, the protective lover boy, if you will. Sierra once again,

impart some wisdom here. She's like, look, it's better to have love and lost and never to have loved at all. Sure, it's a little. horny, but she's absolutely right. And I think

Sierra and Mia have, they've taken on almost like a mentor role. Yeah. AJ, if you noticed that. Yeah, a little brother. Yeah, like this little brother energy. And it's just, it's nice to see them,

you know, give a little nudge. Like, hey, man. Like between that and Carl, there should be enough, like, resolve in his head to be able to be like, all right, you know what? Carl said this. Mia and Sierra said that.

like I'm okay. Like I'm going to go have this conversation. I think it gave him the nerve to go and talk to Dara. Yeah, yeah. I think it did because if we know anything about KJ, it's his first season, but he's been very open about his anxiety. He's been very open about where he is emotionally at all times.

So I don't know if he would have had that conversation if he didn't get that check in from Carl and then the check in from me and Sierra. So it could have gone a different way. He could have just bottled it up and like, I'm never going to address this. We're never going to talk about it. Maybe we'll just move forward. And I won't really have to deal with it.

But the problem is, it's like the end of July probably. I don't know when Kyle's birthday is beginning of August. You still have a few more weekends where chaos and shit can hit the fan and Lindsay's already talking about it. This is the time to just square it away with Sarah. Just talk about it. Just open up. Because if you've gotten to the point already where you're FaceTiming her all the time, you guys are hanging out all the time, you're getting to the point where you're saying,

I love you, have the conversation clear the fucking air right now. Hear it from her first and then move on. And that's the best way to take it. I agree. So he does just that. I would be remiss to not mention Carl's crock and glasses combo. Yeah. Rocks.

Awesome. Loved it. Yeah. For the old person party, you mean, right? No, just in life.

He should wear that in New York City. Yeah, he should not. He should certainly. Joshua, Joshua from Ladies of London, already purchased that outfit. He saw it that.

Joshua from Ladies of London died when he saw that outfit. Yeah. of happiness because wow, I can't believe that I didn't think of that before. I'm so happy that I can now do that and wear that look that I died is what he said. He put himself on the blacklist of visiting America. He said, if that's how people in America dress, I don't want to go there, which he's not really, he's actually not wrong. No, not at all.

He's actually very right. But anywho, back to our main point, KJ goes and talks to Darry. And he's just pretty honest with her, which I appreciate again. like just get to the root of me he's like look today's weird vibes to be honest i was in my head earlier i'm fine now but i talked to lindsay and bailey told her that you were in ben's room for an hour now we get to a fork in the road okay because she staunchly denies no it didn't happen went in there changed my clothes that's why i came out with a different look i changed i came back out boop boop boop they're still together he has not seen the foot

as far as I know. Do you think that she's lying? And do you think if this comes out that she was lying, that KJ will have his heartbroken? I don't think she's lying about the time. However, this was something, maybe in the moment it did she be discussed. She got changed in front of Ben.

There's a bathroom in the room. Oh, okay, that's important. So the footage is going to have to exonerate either way. I'm on the side of I thought this was really nice. I thought this was a great conversation between the two of them. And I'm going to side with Dara on this. I'm going to say it got blown up for no reason. It probably got blown up because Bailey still wanted to be with Ben at that point before

Ben screamed in her face. So Bailey was probably feeling but heard about that and then told Lindsay the next day like, I guess I lost my shot with Ben because he was in the room with Darra for an hour and then blew it up even more. Now, it's going to be interesting to see how Bailey holds her grounds. I'm actually very curious to see how that conversation goes. But I'm on Darrah's side right now. That's where I am. You're blinded by KJ.

That is so not like you. No, I am too. I am too. But that happens to me. You're usually on the other side. Like, oh, she definitely hooked up with Ben. And like, she was probably back with Ben. Like, he probably put her close before.

That's, that's the normal Magooner answer. So, wow, KJ softened your, your icy cold heart. They may have. He may have.

Now outfit reveals, everybody looks fantastic. This was a good, good theme party. I like this a lot. West has been a Missed outfire. We got Karma Brown in her later year. She still looks great,

by the way. You get, again, I have to remind you guys, Lindsay doesn't think about Carl. No, Totally not. Never not once, not one time wouldn't do it.

Carl, did you do your hair gray because everyone loved it two years ago? I was surprised you didn't say. You remember it was August 3rd. It was 4.30 in the afternoon and you came downstairs on a Friday and your hair was silver and everybody loved it. Fuck you though, dude. It's so funny. I love those two together still.

I think I always will. Yeah. But not like that romantic. just on screen together. Unless. 10 years from now, book it. But Jesse and West are talking to wind down the episode. And this tells me it's a different feel again, right?

Because Jesse's like it's weird that Amanda is treating it like a normal day. History tells us that this is what she does the day after. She compartmentalizes and moves on, which I respect the shit out of because she doesn't want to ruin the vibes in the house. or she bites the bullet for that reason to keep everybody PC and moving forward, that everything's fine. And like that tells me that there's a big part of this whole thing that we're not getting because we don't know the feeling in the house. There's clearly some cloud over everything that everyone's like,

oh, this just feels different than it has in the past. And West, I believe, was it West or Jess? I didn't write it down. That crazy that Sierra said they should split up. Who said that? Oh, Jesse did. Jesse.

Jesse didn't get it. Like, he doesn't understand. He really doesn't get it. I have a theory about that. Okay. I think his parents fought a lot in front of them. He's like,

that's normal. Yeah. That's totally normal. And it is, it was a very interesting situation throughout this entire episode to get everybody's take on it because I was always wondering, like, how do you guys feel about this?

And going from me, blowing Sierra's mind to saying that maybe they should get separated and she hadn't thought about it before. West, it seems like he's been thinking about it for a while and then this was really bad. So he's like, all right, we really have to talk about it. He's still together. I know. Yeah. So he's on the other end.

Have you ever seen them happy together? I know. Well, I think he was probably making all of those thoughts and all those feelings happen, especially after the night before. Jesse was, he just doesn't get it at all. He's like, what do you mean? Like, I always figured they'd be fine. They're going to be married forever. I've seen married couples argue worse.

It's actually really funny too because maybe a light bulb would go off in Jesse's head where he's like, whoa, yeah. You can end the marriage. My parents hate each other. Maybe he's like, that's why he's so afraid of like commitment and he just falls in love. And then he's like, shit, I don't want to do this anymore. And moves on because he thinks like, fuck. Like, what if this goes really well?

And then we get married and then it goes like, shit. And then I'm just stuck with that for the rest of my life. He said, wait, divorce. That can happen? You can do that? Maybe I don't admit to someone. He's buried a bunch of things that he had no idea about. His subconscious is now screaming.

Maybe my parents didn't like each other. That's why my dad's in a different room. Kyle and Amanda announced their separation at the end of the season and Jesse's just bawling in the corner. Heaves his head. Oh, God, dude. Oh, well. West ties a bow on everything.

And I appreciate how adamant he is about this whole thing. And he's not pulling punches either, which we've seen him do time and time again in confessionals. He goes right after Kyle. If I see someone give a nice gift to someone, it's probably because they're being a shitty fucking person to that person in regards to the watch. So West has finally stepped up to like to get involved with some shit. It's time. It has been time. And look, I do think that.

you know he needed a season last year where he just had to be in the dog house yes you just have to live in the dog house there's nothing you can do the conversations that he's had with sierra the last couple of weeks have probably gotten back to a point where he's like all right i'm good now i can get involved in this shit and look i mean the situation calls for it because we can't just have another situation where amanda just gets just beaten down verbally from kyle talking about all this and we just move on with our lives and we're like well they'll figure it out they're married adult couple if they want to keep going they're keep going. If not, they don't. This is what we have to do. I'm stepping in as a guy who just watched this happen. And I'm really close with Amanda. We're very good friends. I don't want this happen anymore. So I want Wes to get involved. Somebody fucking better. And West is probably the best person right now. Yeah, I'm glad that the sentiment in the house, even Jesse, who's like, you know, couples fight, he still understands the gravity of it. Like, that can't happen. So look, Amanda seems like she's got support in the house. It's all you can ask for. And again, it's no mystery wherever headed. So we're just seeing those final pieces of what finally buried everything.

But let's see what the audience has to say about it. First one up here from Shavan Beham. What are your thoughts on Lindsay saying that KJ is in it for love and Dara is in it for fame? She had said that in a Watch What Happens Live interview. KJ actually addressed it. He was, or I'm sorry. Everyone's talking about this. I know, I know.

West addressed it last night on Watch What happens live. Um, she had to answer. That's the thing. It's watch Ravids Live. You have to answer one way or another. I don't think that Lindsay necessarily meant anything by it. And it seems like KJ and Dara in a good place. So I don't think that she was in it for the fame because even West said, like, I invited

Dara and said, hey, could be a fun weekend. Come up to the Hamptons. We'll just have a good time to see what happens. And then she started dating KJ. So I, I don't, I believe West. I believe KJ and Dara. I do. I mean, the biggest evidence for me is it's seven, six, six, six,

seven months later, they're still together. So I. And my other thing with all of this, dude, I always. Oh, God. I'm not, I'm not even going to play into that one. I hate that shit. But my big thing with this,

this takes me back to like, when people say, well, they were a fan of the show. It's like, well, there is a part of it where, yeah, she wants to get fame, at least to some capacity. She signed on to do a reality. You don't sign on because that'll be a fun hobby. Like, you want something from this.

So I feel like we hold reality TV stars to some very strange standard. Like we watch these people for chaos and then we're like, oh, she wants to be famous. No shit. That's why she's on the show. What are we talking about here? Yeah, exactly. Oh, I saw something good.

Oh, I saw something good. Actually, just fucking hiccups. What are you got? No, I'll save that for the end. That is a very funnily worded question. It's a funny question, but the words are too. Meg's Valentine.

Do you think Andy will hold? hold Kyle accountable at the reunion in quotes I don't um I actually do think that Andy will hold it this is if you're watching the Southern Charm reunion right now he doesn't hold them accountable for shit he Andy loves all of them I think he wants to bang them but for this he doesn't really like Kyle he puts Kyle to the fire I mean watch happens live a few weeks ago he was really roasting him so I really do think that the reunion's going to be similar yeah I agree the fact that he's that was the worst Kyle episode.

It seems like he's got a little more gas in the tank for him. Yeah. But you never know. You know, when we get to it, like, do I think that he's got it in him this time to go after him a bit? Yes. Will he? TBD.

I got one here from, from Mike White that he actually messaged us earlier in the day, and I said that I would read it. He said, question, comment for Summerhouse episode this week. shout out to KJ for that conversation he had with Darry explaining why he was low-key in his head, wild to think that a dude on Bravo was actually able to simply express his feelings and shout out to her for communicating her support of those feelings.

These two definitely seem right for each other. I agree. That's exactly where my head is with that. Well, whoa. I am not saying negative things about them. I'm saying, I had to ask the question. Why do you think this is about you? Because of the way that you phrased that.

I, I like. What do you want me? Royal we? What do you want from this? It just sounded like an emphasized eye. I don't think I like the conversation. The funny thing is I really didn't. The funny thing is I really didn't do that.

So I think you've got a gaslet myself. I don't. Shut up. Now I'm starting to think. Shut up, mustache. Oh, God. Oh, here you go from K.M. Latoil.

Is it me or has Ben kind of blah? I could do without him next summer. I fully agree. He seems like a nice guy. He's fine. I just don't think he has any personality for reality TV. I agreed. Colie Marie 1.

Should the guys have addressed Kyle in the morning? That one, I think you take Amanda. Give a fuck that it's his birthday. Oh, I agree. I agree. Personally, I don't. I go scorched earth on him in the morning. Oh, you know I would.

Like, that's not a question. I'm just more saying, it's your birthday. You're 45. I agree. I agree. I agree with all of these. I'm just saying for Amanda, that's one of those where it's like you don't want to make it worse for Amanda.

Like that would be where my head goes. I don't give a shit about Kyle, but I don't want to make her day worse. And if she's going to grin and bear it and put it on a happy face, and that's what she wants to do. Yeah. I would probably follow her lead as well as I could. But I know,

I know damn well if he came up to me and said some shit like, yeah, but I'd be like, oh, ha, ha, I'd verbally kick him in the nut sack. Yeah, definitely. Oh, this actually kind of exonerates me from Brittany 0117.

Where the hell was Sierra during all of this? Did I miss something? They went to bed, I guess. I truly believe that they just, it was probably a bit of like a little editing. Maybe it was a little bit later that West went in to check on Amanda and Kyle was still probably DJing in the other room and everybody had gone to bed, I guess. I was genuinely confused. Like, where'd everybody go? What happened?

Yep. There you go. You got a little support there. yeah thanks guys i'm gonna read this one just because the end of this i like kyle should have done watch what happens live this week to answer for his awful behavior he's like craig uh it's just nice to see somebody that's not blinded by craig yeah we got so many comments on the last southern charm when we did i've just flabbergasted like you guys hey you have blinders for us did craig is a stand-up guy uh-stin's image what yeah wild yeah that's absolutely wild uh

From Billy Big Deals, can you name a better Bravo redemption arc than our sweet boy West has had this season? Not in recent memory. I mean, there are really good, there are very good redemption arcs. There's forced redemption arcs out West of a certain show. And then there's this,

which was, look, West has always been a good guy. He's just, he was a fucking idiot and he was a bit of an asshole. So I think he's learned. I think usually when we say, maybe they've learned,

maybe they've matured, we're usually wrong. I think this one actually sticks. This feels like actual growth out of West. My favorite is when we talked about him. It seems like people have started to come around to him this season. We said last year that we don't think he's a bad guy. It's just,

you know, he fucked up royally and deserves to be in the doghouse. And Sierra can be as mad as she wants for as long as she wants, all those things still ring true. But my favorite is we'd get comments, like from people like, they still, we got a review,

a one-star review. That's like, these misogynists still support West. It's like, Sierra's cool. with him. This was this year. Sierra's now cool with him, but we still have to be mad at the guy. That doesn't make any sense. That doesn't add up. You want to read your funny one for the end? Are we ready for the last one? Yeah. The wording made me laugh from Kier and McDee.

Come on. How many how many keepy upies with your head do you think you could do with karma brown studies? Oh my God. Keepy up. He just made me. laugh. You don't have to do the head motion. I mean, I had to like kind of figure it out to see. If you're not watching YouTube, you're missing out on shooter. Yeah. Doing keepy-upies. Yeah.

I like that. With my hair back and forth. Yeah. I don't know because I, it depends on how much they weigh. Well, probably because West says that like everybody had them on and there's a picture of West with them on. So we'll have to get some intel. on how much they weigh. But I'm going to say a good 23.

23 keep you up these. Wow. I think I can go for that long. You could Michael Jordan, Karma Brown's boobs. Yeah. There we go. Okay.

I would like to say, you know, more than shooter. But realistically, I think 10. I think you'd lose. The rhythm would be tough, I think. If I, like, it's unfair, too, if I'm drinking, I can just keep going, probably. Yeah, that's also true. And you don't have that.

No, I don't have that. But yeah, you know, I think we need more, more of the parameters. More keep the yuppie. I just like the phrase keepy upy. It's funny. Oh, boy. Yeah, well, you know, it is, we're on the home stretch now. We know what's coming next.

As far as what I think that we're going to see, although Andy claims is the worst, Kyle episode ever. I think he's got a couple more worst episodes ever before this is all said and done. For sure. That's all I got. You got anything else? Nope. That's our show.

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