Bros & Shows - Sutton and Reba Reconcile (RHOBH Full Recap)

Episode Date: February 17, 2025

What's up Bros? On this episode of RHOBH, we are still in Augusta with Sutton. We get to take a walk down memory lane as she opens up about her childhood, her relationship with her father and the toll that his death took on her. Garcelle makes a point to stand up for Sutton and address Reba. Meanwhile, Dorit informs the ladies that her and PK are back on speaking terms and things seem 'friendly'. Boz and Erika Jayne both do not fall for it and instead tell Dorit to prepare herself for the worst. Sutton sits Reba down and airs out her grievances. It does seem to work to an extent as Reba acknowledges they can do better. It wasn't the most action packed episode but it was heartfelt. Plus scenes from the rest of the season look wild as we gear up for the second half. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Terms and conditions apply. Learn more at mx.ca.ca slash yamex. When do the masters start? April 5th? I thought that was the 7th. All right. I don't know.

One of those. Well, we are in Augustus. I just, I was curious. When the Masters, that's like the first official, like start of the golf season. We're getting there.

Close. Yeah. Yeah. Usually those commercials start to creep in. You hear that music. I could be in a completely different room. I get excited. Oh, me too.

That music, I got my head perked. I'm like, wait, what? Springs coming. Yay. Good afternoon, everybody. Welcome back to another episode of Bros and shows. I'm your co-host, Steele Russell, joined as always by the one and only, scoot my goots. What's up, dude?

Gearing up for Parade Day tomorrow. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. I'll be on a plane. I'm going to see Pop, but I'll be there in spirit. Poppy and I will both be there in spirit. We'll FaceTime you down there so you can show us what's going on. that's assuming I have any cell service yes oh yeah I forgot it gets all wacky when there's

like new years yeah it's crazy I think this one's gonna be rather than the first one I don't know yeah people have been talking about it because it's snowed here and it's like muddy over by the art museum who knows what it's gonna look like I am just gonna wing it I have no plans it's right good way to figure it out yeah just wing it at least you got a good spot you got a good starting point yeah and a good home base to get back to it needed yeah that that that makes all the difference in the world if you know it's stranded down there like if i go it's a whole different story because i get back here yeah no travel required except for uh my two feet's yeah and the 25 minute journey to my house from there will turn into a four hour debacle so yeah i'll be on an airplane

bright and early headed down south so i don't deal with that but i uh i wish you the best have have a wonderful time out there but uh let's talk some roba because we're back at beverly hills i really like this episode i really like the last two episodes i enjoy the change up that we've gotten we've gotten some more sentimental moments some touching scenes it's not we don't have people like clawing at each other for a couple weeks it's been a nice break a nice breather to like see some happy shit yeah i i i was in an agreement last week that we needed that we needed the separation we needed Kyle to be away from Doreet and the rest of the crew we needed a little bit of a Sutton storyline because we really haven't gotten any of that unless it involves her just fighting

with somebody in the last like four or five years so I think we needed that last week this week I was over it about halfway through I just didn't care oh I wasn't this was way look pleasant sure but there's no action like yeah we consider it I really like Sutton storyline I like that it came all like full circle like I appreciated it I enjoy it from a viewer standpoint but from a recap standpoint it's like okay like there's not a lot to dig into but it's yeah i know this is nice i guess your heartless well here's why i think that i think the rest of the season's going to look a lot different than what i thought it was going to look like before the season started i thought we were going to get a takedown of kyle pretty much the entire season where people are calling her out

for all the shit because duret opened up a door and now everybody's like oh this is our opportunity to get back her and that's pretty much over i don't think that that's i think it's going to come back a little bit i don't think it's going to be like that anymore sudden's going to take on that role it's going to go back after sutton and i i just we've seen it before i just don't want to deal with it again i think that that's definitely a possible outcome i don't think that kyle's off the hook because she might be cool to read i think bo still has questions about her i think carcel still has questions about her and garcels closer with her obviously but i think that that whole text thing i think there was too much going on for it to be swept

entirely. There's too many people involved. And this could be wishful thinking on my part. I hope it's not. I put it this way. There is a route back to it. It's just whether or not they decide to go that route or if Sutton does take on center stage as the villain. I don't really know. But let's jump into this episode. We're back in Augusta. And, you know, we're getting to know Reba a little bit more. Obviously, there was some

concerning things that were alluded to last week, some microaggressions that could be easily pointed out, and those are very valid. But you are getting to know her a little bit more. She's definitely rough around the edges. She's definitely tough. And just the things that she's saying, like don't run this hour.

This is way too late. 5.36 a.m. is when you get the fuck out of the house, Kyle. Like, God damn it. So her admitting that she's not nurturing, no shit. Like, obviously. We know that.

But the fact that she's, said it, I guess. And I just, I think that the interactions are, it's almost like watching a like a rom-com where like the group goes to stay with the mom and she is an asshole. And she's like talking to Avi like pretty much berating him. But Garsell even. I love Avi though. I, I just love Avi during all of this because Avi is very clearly dealt with Reba before and all of the things that he's doing that she's asking. And yes, we do get the side by side of Sutton the way that he, the way that Sutton talks to Avi versus. the way that Reba talks of Avi is not that dissimilar. It's obviously similar, very similar. And you can tell he's just over it. He probably hates it. Now, there is a difference, a huge difference. I think that Avi really likes Sutton, and I think that Sutton really likes Avi.

I think they're best friends. I think Reva's, Reba's just like, yeah, what's this guy doing here again? I don't want to deal with him anymore. What's he doing in my kitchen? Well, it's not your kitchen. But I'm sure that you use that house when Sutton is out of town all the time. I was curious about that. I was curious about that.

How often does she stay in the main house? Yeah, I just love the interactions, too, because you can just see Avi just rolling his eyes every time that she says something to him because he knows it's coming while he's doing anything. Every time Sutton says, we're going to Augusti, he's like, oh, fuck. Do I have to go? Yeah, you actually have to go early. Make sure the Junebug is all good. And we're going to show up a couple days later. So you're going to have to sit there with my mom for a bit.

Oh, God. We'll see you in a while. Yeah. But you get Sutton and Kyle talking in the bathroom. And there's a lot of discussions about her dad, which is interesting. It's something that we obviously know surface level about. We know what happened that he committed suicide when she was growing up. And obviously that has a lasting impact on her.

But we haven't really gotten to hear about their relationship as much. We knew they were really close. But she doesn't, she's not the one to dive into shit like this usually. So I think maybe that's why I like this is between talking about her issues, with her mom and last year we saw her address like these have been growing years for her like we had the merce thing last year merce in the purse this year we have mom and dad so she's diving into some of her shit but we learned about her dad when she was like 26 she said she started noticing things with him uh like things were starting to get bad he was hospitalized twice like kicking

and screaming is how she described like showed them into a car to get him to the hospital he suffered from clinical depression and this was a guy that was was like her rock so she didn't understand how all of these things were happening to him and that he would talk suicidal ideations and he was using alcohol to self-medicate amongst other things so it got really dark it sounds like there towards the end and she makes a note but even through all that there was no therapy and i think as everyone in our generation knows like our previous our predecessors if you will therapy was this taboo topic that you know if you went to therapy you were a psycho whereas today it's much more widely accepted and yeah you know i'm glad i'm very glad about that but it was interesting

to hear about but he took his life December 23rd 2002 is is when that happens so we get a date and we get her opening up about this whole thing and uh it was it was it was heavy and it was sad but you get to the kitchen again and riva's pissed off about the grits being dry so i was like oh okay now i can smile that's fair yeah and look that is fair too because obvi didn't realize that he was heating it up. He thought he was cooking them. So, yeah. Are we to believe that grits cook faster in your kitchen? The youths. That's good. No, I like that because it was an immediate break in the action. And again, we haven't heard the entire story from Sutton, albeit, you know, obviously we know about it. But she never really talked about her emotions. She never really got that

deep into it. She never talked about her relationship with her father. She never really talked about the exact moment that everything kind of played out and how it impacted the rest of the family. So that's really what this was all about. This is all a healing journey for her right now. Being able to bring her friends down to Augusta, hang out with her mom. She wants to be able to get closer to her mom.

She wants her to be proud of her, of course, as we get into later. But she also wants to be able to finally just kind of close the door on all of that or close the chapter on all of that with her dad. But sort of like face it, face it with people who she trusts with Kyle and Garcell, face it with people that she knows we'll have her back and she can just be open and talk about it, which we really haven't seen.

So that's all well and good. I just love that we immediately just go downstairs to Riba. Like, no, right back to the grits. What do you do? Yeah, like these grits are, don't dry out those fucking grits, Avi, you asshole. And that's where Garcel points out some similarities because we've seen how Sutton talks. I do believe that Avi and Sutton are best friends. I believe that Sutton loves Avi, but like those scenes where she's asking to do things.

And it's like, the difference is like Avi will roll his eyes in Sutton's face and be like, what he obviously doesn't do that with riba but what i thought was interesting as we talk more about riba she was a working therapist up until like last year yeah that's as well yeah until well yeah until last year for us present time but she was still a working therapist at that moment she was done in september so that's wild that is wild to me but it made some sense though because knowing her and you know talking a little bit later with with sutton just looking for her to say that she's proud and all the things that went on with Sutton's dad committing suicide and all of those things that Reba really hasn't unpacked or really

adjusted to she is capable of telling everybody else what to do and you know all the the mechanisms that you need to be able to combat the depression combat the other things but she's she has an inability herself to face those things so she uses all all coping mechanisms yeah she talks about other people to deal with her shit you know which is like compartmentalizing and and not the dressing so yeah it's just that dichotomy there was interesting to me but these are the comments riba that gets you in trouble because she's like garcel you want ice she's like oh no you know being from the being tropical i don't like ice he's like well you're not english that's for sure i'm like oh oh i tried to spin it too i'm like what did she mean by that

because like the english don't typically use ice for their drinks so maybe she was making an English joke. And then I'm like, nope, no, no, even when you do it that way, it still comes back to the same thing. There's just no other one of English is a color of skin. It was just not great. It wasn't great. And that's more of what we saw from the last episode. And it's hard to rally behind Reba when it's like, oh, God. Nobody's rallying behind Reba. Let's be honest. No, and we're not going to, we're not the ones that blame it on generational differences. I think that's a whole shit excuse. You're supposed to learn, especially you're a fucking therapist. Just don't say stuff like that. But anyway.

Garcel and Reba do have a one-on-one. I love Garcel for this move. I thought this was ballsy. I thought this shows Sutton. How good of a friend Garcel truly is, because especially after these microaggressions and comments that she's been hearing for her to still step up to the plate and be like, hey, and she lays it very bluntly. And I think that's probably the way to do it with Reva.

She's like, she wants you to be proud. And she wants to say, I love you. And Reba obviously is like, I don't think that's any of your fucking business. And you don't know what you're talking about. But Garcel still handles it really well because she's like, I don't know what your relationship is, but I do know what Sutton said. And she's like, are you delivering a message? And she's like, you know what? Yeah, I am.

I am the messenger. Yeah. How do you feel about that, Riva? And I think that by her standing firm in this moment and getting those things out, it actually resonated with Riva, where she actually took it in because Garcel brings it back to a personal level where she talks about losing her mom and how much she misses her and wishing she could still have those conversations or say things that weren't said. And it finally cracks through Riba's extremely hard exterior. And she's like, death is final, isn't it?

She's like, it is. And I think that was enough there for Riba to see what she was saying without giving in. Yeah. Yeah. There was no give in to any of that. And honestly, before this episode aired,

I thought this conversation was going to go way worse. I thought it was going to be a straight up. And we've seen Sutton do this before. So I wouldn't have been surprised at, surprised if Reba did as well, I thought she was just going to shut Garcel down and just move on, stand up, even, walk out of the room, things like that that we've seen in the past. And instead, yeah, I fully agree with you. I think that because Garcel stood her ground, because she proved her worth as a really good friend to Sutton,

at some point, Reba's going to have to realize, like, I'm happy that my daughter has somebody like you in her life that can talk to her about these things because I'm incapable of doing this stuff. So I think there was a lot of respect gains there by Garcel. again you know microaggressions have to go the fuck out the window there's no place for that we need to stop doing that and i don't want to hear it or see it at all anymore so please riba fix that shit and i again i think that she gained so much respect in this conversation because she started around against riba who is a intimidating figure especially in sutton's life i mean we see the way that she'll say something sutton'll say something to riba and she'll just immediately

get shut down and then suttn gets shut down too doesn't work that way with garsall no and garsall goes further with it. And she's like, I think Reba got hurt. And then she takes a step further. She's like, I think Sutton had a really close relationship with her dad, which we know to be true from Sutton herself. And that, and that there's some jealousy there. And I, that, I'm like, okay. That was a really good breakdown. That was very astute by her. Yeah. Yeah. And I think she's on the nose with it. But we get to breakfast and don't worry, the grits are good. Also, don't put sugar in your grits. All right. Don't fucking, you know what you can put in your grits? What? It's delicious jelly. Jelly and grits is lovely. I like to go.

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And she says there's great memories there till 1223-02 is when her father passed away. So she wants to go inside. Reba wants no part of this. Reba is like somebody lives there. We're absolutely not going inside. We're not going to go into that house. No, that's, and she's like, I think we're going to bring the doorbell.

And I think you can tell later, Maureen, I believe Maureen's a fan of the show. Yeah. Because she was ready for that, for those cameras to come in there. But I think they probably did like some sort of light scouting where, you know, producers go out, maybe even Sutton went over and just kind of like eased into it. I'm sure. Yeah, I'm sure there was a lot of that goes on behind the scenes. going on. But I also would have a Marine might be a fan of the show, which made this a lot easier.

But anyway, I think we get a really important realization here out of Sutton because she lists off some things because Reba was home when her dad shot himself, which is an important thing to note because of how she takes that in her, because she says he was taking Xanax, he was taking sleep pills. he was using alcohol to self-medicate she was home for all of this and she was also aware that there was a loaded gun in the house she's putting blame on reba yeah and i don't think she's intentionally doing that and i don't think that she wants to do that her psyche is yeah correct and i think that that's something she admits to she's like and i think i have resentment for that implying that there was something that riba could have done and again you know when it comes to issues like this with mental health there's a lot of could have what it should is you can throw out there.

I don't think it's Reva's fault. I don't think Sutton really believes it's Reva's fault. I think that she has this anger inside of her that she wants to address so that she can move on from thinking that it was her mom's fault. But, you know, she even admits, like, this is the first time I really opened up about these things. So again, I know that you wanted more action, but like, I think this is a very important character arc for Sutton.

It's also interesting that this happens. And then we apparently get to her kind of taking a turn and being a villain when you would think that this would soften her up and maybe not point her in that direction. But hey, maybe it's straightened her out in a way. She was able to let's go of some of these things and now she's locked in. Now let's let's do that. All right, sure. But we get to Erica's house.

And again, we're happy for Erica Jane. Yeah. Genuinely, she got her shit together. She was down in the dumps. She's winning the vast majority of her cases. She's making money again. She had her residency. See, these are all lovely things.

This is all we talk about with her. I like Erica when she's with the other women. I like that she will interject. I like that she is, you know, very blunt with things. But when it comes to personal storyline, every episode, it's I'm so happy now. Interior design, a life. Personal storyline. I just don't care.

It's not. It's a one-off. It's a cool meeting. When you meet with the interior designer, we get to meet somebody else. who has been on past Bravo shows that we know, we recognize it's kind of cool. Yeah, maybe you show that she gets the bill at some point. Yeah, maybe you show what she's going to be doing.

You do the before and after shit, whatever. I don't care. But you can't do this the whole season. We have. But, like, look, even if it's been 11 episodes and we are still talking about the interior of her house. That's my problem with this. And that's my problem with this episode because there are still away, because there's three women still away in Augusta and the rest of the

them are just kind of like basically saying to Dereat what's going on with PK, which we'll get to in a second. They're just doing space filler at this point. Like we don't need to see this. There is zero reason for us to have to walk through Erica's house while it's still being done. There's still things being moved around. It's not finished.

I do want to see the finished product because I like to see that stuff. You know when you show it? I need an update. Like I just don't need an update. There's nothing here. You show it in the beginning of the episode when we flash between four different scenes before we get to the first scene. Show us a little clip of the house being put together and then move on from it.

And then at the reunion, you get a one, you get a one off question where Andy says, how's the house going? And she says, it's great. It's all finished. It looks great. And then we see pictures of the reunion.

And it's done within 30 seconds. I just don't need any of this. Like, even for a FaceTime. Like, it's just stupid. Especially when you get, I like having these two groups to see like Bo's Dorit Erica sit down. I'm cool with that.

Like when they all sat down at the end, I'm like, hell yeah. Get those three. shopping get those three at somebody's house having a cocktails like whatever but get the group together i don't know whatever we do get a scene with boz and her daughter layell and there's so many parents on this children on this show children are just so impressive yeah you know like it really is astounding listening to boz talk to her daughter and she brings up keely

and the potential of having another baby she is so grown up with her response she's like you know our bond like i couldn't like how old is she 14 no fucking clue dude it doesn't matter like 14 going on 40 it's just she goes all of the kids on this show are like way more emotionally equipped to handle things like this than i have or sells kids like jacks it's crazy dude it's like she says verbatim i'm leaving soon and you know she's like oh you worried about me now being alone she's like no no the bond you and i have the bond you and i have the bond you and I have is evolving and I want you to share that bond with someone else I was like oh my god that was beautiful and I guess she's probably like a mid teen so she's going to go to college in the

next few years maybe I don't know but yeah dude that was so well said I was floored I'm like that's that's lovely what a lovely sentiment to hear from your daughter even Bose is taking her back she's like who is this like what did you say that's crazy so good for layout but we get to Sutton's childhood home and obviously garcell's a little concerned i think we all are watching this because it's going to be pretty heavy and sudden's emotion out of the gate but this is like the last step in her healing journey and she wants to be able to say goodbye and put this behind her which i respect they do a little walk through and it is heavy she's talking about this is the last spot i saw my dad and i just remember i left her dance performance and we would always do like this this high five

handhold thing and he was so out of it in such bad shape that he wasn't really there at the time and I just kind of pulled on his toe and didn't know that that was going to be the last time that I was going to see him and I was like that fucking sucks and even more so that they're standing in this room that her dad not only designed but built so like this room more or less embodies him especially considering her last memory of the guy is in this room so this is literally her dad personified as she's trying to work through this emotional stuff and I think what it did watching, you know, let me put my psychology hat on again, watching this scene and watching her kind of let go a little bit, talk through it, open up. I think that it makes

her realize how hard this was on her mom, whereas she's had resentment for what her mom could or could not have done to remedy the situation. Obviously, she has a tumultuous relationship with riva all of these different things i think standing in that house realizing my mom went through this too was important for her to be able to forgive riba or at least let go of that resentment towards riba and move on not only with her dad but move on with her mom that's what i got yeah that that's pretty much what i thought too and and look this the scene had the possibility of being way more emotionally taxing way more in depth with what sutton was going to do i thought that she held herself together for a situation that seemed like she hadn't been back to that house since

then. I mean, that's kind of the drift that I caught from all of that. But again, I mean, she does have her two friends there to help her through it. Thank God for Maureen as well to allow us to see the inside of that house. Shout out, Maureen. And yeah, I can't even imagine what that's like to walk through there and just relive all of those moments from growing up to spending time with your dad to even reflecting on your relationship with your mother at the end of all of it, too, which is insane, to be able to go through all of those things and hold it together the way that she did is insane because I don't know many people that would be able to do that. So this is incredibly deep, incredibly sharing, like incredible sharing by Sutton to be able to put something like this out there to talk about it. Because again, we always, incredibly sharing.

Incredibly sharing. Incredibly shareable? No. It's not incredibly shareable. if you're going to say incredibly open, incredibly honest? Let's go with open. Yeah,

let's go with open. But again, we like to point out things that other people are going through, that it's important for them to be able to see it on TV, to embody something that's out there that maybe you're going through as well,

to be able to share something like that with somebody else who it's going to resonate with. So we're always going to shut those things out. I think she did a great job. I think that can't be an easy thing to share with us. and I loved it. Yeah, it was. It was really sweet.

It was really sweet. But we get to a scene with Bose, Erica Jane, and Doreet, this is what I'm talking about. This scene was great. Give me more of these scenes. If they're not all together,

get one small group together, right? We shouldn't have had that many one-on-ones with those other. I mean, Bose and her daughter was really nice. This is really only about Erica Jane scene. That's like, what the fuck was that? We didn't need that,

but space filler. That's, I mean, it was, but there should never be space filler on there. There should be enough content, episode to episode to get you through without space filler it's just stupid i agree i agree with you i'm just saying it happens salt lake salt lake had to cut scenes because there was so much show of all time yeah it's so

fucking good i can't wait for it to come back already but anyway we're talking about keely and like the love stuff as we've already talked about a little bit the fact that they're talking babies but i haven't talked about the l word yet is is a little alarming to me i think that that should probably be in their near future if they're serious about having children yeah but Doreet let's slip that she's spoken to PK and everyone's baffled and the minute that she said this line it was like we were friends I'm like he's fucking playing you dude

he's playing you so hard right now and she's like you know it's not a reconciliation but it's like slow down let's communicate because we can't be at war because of the kids and Bose's she's with two of the better people to have this conversation with yeah because Bose is like this is about you this has nothing to do with your children i'm like absolutely let her know and boz thinks what we think it's like this is a trick no he's not he's not that person based on what the fact that he's

ghosted you for two months based on the fact that he just wrote you like three days before what do you mean he's not that person that's him he gives you an ultimatum and tells you that you have to pay for the mortgage in the upcoming months because he's not going to pay for it and if you don't meet this list of demands he is going to file for divorce that guy's not that are you kidding me he's 100 percent that guy and you've been on the up and up with it up until this point so don't let him throw a shade over you now to where you're like oh he's coming back everything's fine and erika points out pk is ruthless in business and that's what divorce is divorce is business proceedings you think that he's going to be calm cool and collected now your first meeting with the guy after you got separated

was him standing up and showing you single pk's outfit look at my fit i i've matched a guy on ticot so i could look cool as I go out and try to get some women, Doreet. Tell me you like my fit. You just got to thank God that Doreet actually has these women because you could see the way that her brain was working when she started bringing that up. She was almost happy to bring it up to that. She was like, guys, guess what? Based off of the last conversation that you have with these women about P.K.

And the email that he sent you, they were all telling you when Erica was leading the charge who just went through a very long divorce, who we just saw when she's renovating her home, talk about how she finally feels normal after four or five years. She is talking about this. You need to listen to it. It just shows you that Doreet does not believe it. She's just in some sort of sense of this is not my husband. This is not who I love.

I know he'll come back eventually, which I'm sure that happens. Sure, I've never gone through divorce, so I don't really get it. But in this moment, you can see Dorete is happy to bring this up. Like, oh, my God, they're going to be so happy for me that we're reconciling, that we're figuring this out. Like, yeah, maybe we're not going to get back together, but it's not going to be as messy as I thought it was going to be. me after that email that email was like four days ago lady what are you doing i know how are you this blind so thank god that they're there because immediately bow's checks her erika checks her right afterwards and you can see drit's mind is just spiraling like uh i don't think he would do that that's not

him it is him it just is him and leave the kids out of it yeah they're saying he's calming you down so you don't act and Bose lays out like a potential plan like this could be what he's doing it's a game and like slams the table and it's like yes wake up up. I'm like, yeah, fucking wake her up. Like, this is nuts that she's even giving this any thought. Like, the dude is trying to play you so that you don't file first, which, by the way, you should have filed

already, honestly, but we get back to Augusta. This is horrible. This is horrible. I couldn't believe this. I'm going to chalk it up to a weird grieving thing or not being able to

come to terms with what had happened because Sutton's making her dad's crab cakes and she lets us know that the day after her father died her mom made her make these for Christmas Eve dinner. That is that is just torture. What the fuck? Like that's horrible. That is mental torture. That was what I had famous dad crab cakes the day after he killed himself. Yeah. Yeah, that was what I had the realization that just because she's a therapist doesn't mean that she's practicing what she preaches at all. It doesn't mean she's a good

therapist. Not every therapist is good at their show. That's a good point. Yeah, I mean, she is a therapist on a Bravo show. We do always say those things. It doesn't mean they're good. That's a good point. That's astounding. You know your dad's famous crab cakes? I know that he just died

yesterday, but I would love some crab cakes. Like, what a mental like, fuck. Yeah, that was yeah. That's crazy. That made me feel weird. Yeah. Yep, but Reba comes over to the house, and it's her and Sutton one-on-one, and Sutton has her new line laid out. It's like the parcel project is what she calls it, and it's all these different outfits and everything. And she says, again, like, all I want is acceptance for my mother.

And she just broaches the topic. And I'm glad she did. If this is going to move along, it had to go this way. And she said, after what we stole with Garsell, too. Because we saw the way that she approached it. And that actually got Reba to start talking about it a little bit. if if Sutton does what she normally does, which it seems like she always does and just beats around the bush, her mom's never going to give her the time of day.

But I think it's important with Reba, just rip off the band-aid. You've got to just dive into these topics as we saw with Garcell. And she says, does my mom understand what I do? Is she proud at all? And Reba's like, I don't understand. Like, why wouldn't I be proud? It's like, well, you don't say it. She's like, I don't need to say it.

And this is such a that generation thing again where it's like, you should just know inherently that I'm proud of you. And she's like, well, I need to hear it. I need the validation. and you know what a lot of kids do whether there's grownups or not just throw them a bone and be like i'm really proud of you and i i can't speak from from knowledge here my parents do say that a lot so i appreciate that but it feels nice it's nice to hear it doesn't it it's like confirmation that i'm doing okay thanks mom thanks dad thanks everybody i appreciate you guys

but she is so just old school she's like it's just i just don't think you need it it's like it's like saying I love you. It's so trite and overused. I'm like, oh, if you don't mean it, sure. But like, if you never say it, Reba, imagine the impact it'll have when you do say it. Oh, you're a fucking therapist.

What are you talking? What do you understand this? What are you teaching these people to do? That's what I'm saying. You need to wall off and stop talking about your motion. You know what? Quit being such a little bitch and compartmentalize. That's what I imagine is what's going on here. Yeah, that's her. I'm having a hard time

connecting with my daughters. Do you have any recommendations for me? Ignore her. All right, walk me through what's happening. Well, she really wants me to be proud of her. Why? How trite. She needs to be independent.

What does she need a hat on the back for everything? Yeah. What does she want a participation trophy? Come on. That's the problem with this generation. They're too soft. That'll be $2,000. Like, that's the problem.

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Unspooled wherever you get your podcast. And don't forget to hit the follow button. does seem to go well like as well as it could have gone because she equates it back to you know i was so set her being riva on being an independent woman being a business woman being a professional woman that i think that rubbed off on you and you have become me because sutton does put so much emphasis on being independent standing alone on her own two feet starting her business which we commend her for it's been fun to watch but she probably does get some of that from her mom and in thinking that she was trying to prove her mom wrong she actually became more like her mom but that's not her fault because she also says well yeah

after the children grew up because i wanted to be there for that reba was like why wouldn't you she's like because you said that made me weak mom like you never gave me credit for being a stay at home mom so i started a fucking business to impress you and to impress my ex-husband my ex-husband my ex-husband is impressed i think he's giving her some kudos for the for the store so riba still And it's like, all she's saying is just say, good job. Say, I'm proud of you. Oh, we got to love you. Yeah.

But it does. I mean, she kind of acknowledges it. She's like, this is how I was raised is again, rub some dirt on it and shut the fuck up. Like your problems aren't real. Post-WW2 is what she said. It's like, oh, my God, that sounded heavy. I went through a world war. All right.

Post-W2 is when I grew up. What do you know about that? Yeah, softy. Like, I could do rebund. A huge industry boom, too. Yeah. Back in my day, house has cost $50. Fuck. Oh, the economy. Oh, this economy. Let's finish this bad boy up. She invites Reba to a fashion show and she says, I would love to. She goes, I know you don't like to travel. She's like, that's not true. I would love to come to California.

And something's like, I want to do better. She's like, we can do better. Let's hug it out. We haven't touched each other in 40 years. But let's try a hug, Mom. Let's give a hug a shot. And you know what? it's as touching as this scene could probably be just with how rough it was a good like it was a good final chapter it was a good way to like just go full circle on this we went to augusta for this reason we had sutton open up to all of us talk about all the things that made her who she is we get to meet her mom her mom walks through everything we understand why sutton is the way that she is and the whole thing is just to try to close a chapter on my mom not being proud of me And now she is.

It was just, it's a storybook ending for now, you know, minus all the fucking microaggressions that Reeve is thrown out there. Well, yeah, no, those will always suck. Yeah, those are there. Clean those up. Let's clean those up immediately. Or let's, let's, let's, I would just say, let's not put her on the show if she's going to say shit like that. Yeah, that would be, you know, a little bit better, sure.

Let's get to some questions. This is my first one from Rerotiedin Health. Raw milk is actually extremely healthy. I'll school you on it. No, you won't because I actually know a lot about this topic, and it's not healthy for you. It contains so many, so many bacterias and so many things that you should not put into your body because it's not filter. It's not regulated. It comes straight from the cow.

That's disgusting. I would love for you to try to school me on this, but if you're going to give me some crunchy non-explanation with no peer-reviewed data, I'm not going to read it or listen to it because I know what I'm talking about because I'm in this field. So no, don't be telling people raw milk is healthy. If people want to make the decision to drink it, that's their prerogative. But no, it's not healthy. And it can get you extremely sick. It can contain salmonella, lysteria, e coli, amongst a lot of other things because it's not at all filtered by any processes whatsoever. All right.

And also processed does not mean bad. Technically speaking, if you cut a vegetable, that is now a processed vegetable. So let's not do this. And you're not going to come on our page and tell me about food and nutrition, especially if your stance is raw, milk so save it and if you want to quote unquote school me on it like you're not going to because i actually have data to back me up all right i would say um you know come on the show and talk about it but i would put my you know what i would do i would just take a picture of myself and put it on the camera and it was rerouted in health is is the name reroute it in health and no raw milk's

not fucking good for you that's that's well let's go to the next from simplione have you guys ever been caught eavesdropping on a combo together you know what no last thing last thing Fuck that. Last thing. We are the only species on the entire planet that drinks the milk of another species. Do you understand that? Not one other species in the world drinks milk from another creature except for human beings. And you want to drink it raw and unfiltered.

Great. Good idea. What are we doing? Sorry. Go ahead. Jesus Christ. From Simplioni, have you guys ever caught, have you guys ever been caught eavesdropping on a combo together? We've definitely eavesdropped before.

together i don't think we've ever been caught though uh no but i there's definitely times in high school uh at parties where shit was going down in another room and you and i were giggling in the other room like crushing beers and laughing at them because it was oh wait yeah i thought i had a specific one uh i distinctly remember there was a party and some shit was popping off and a lot of people were really upset and i think you and i were outside laughing and like watching through the window. Wait, hold on. That resonate.

Hold on. Tilt your head down a tiny bit. Ah, not that far. You had everything funny. This is actually really funny. There's sunlight coming into your room. You can kind of see it on the right side of your face, like down in here. It's like a little bit there.

It was on your lips and your lips looked like they were just like pale white and it looked like you just started chugging a bunch of raw milk. I did. I just got done drinking raw milk from my. That's why you're so amped up, dude. Yeah, I don't like that. And I don't even have a problem with you, re-rooted in health. I don't know you.

And I'm sorry if I came on strong, but, like, that's something I do know about. I think that it's crazy that we're telling people. Is that strong? I don't know if that was strong. That was strong for me, but from C.W. Wright, or C. Wright fam, six. We're all alarmed that Reeve is a therapist, right? Yeah.

If you didn't hear from the episode, yes, we are. Yeah. It's alarming. And one last one here from Lord Tennant. Not a question, but hearing about P.K. partying on Steve Buscemi's, or I'm sorry, let me reread this from Lord Tennant. Not a question, but hearing about P.K. partying gives Steve Buscemi on 30 rock vibes. Yes. It is very much a, how do you do, fellow kids? The fact that Moe is going to a retreat to get his mind in order in Switzerland, and then he is immediately flying down and meeting up with P.K. to go partying is insane to me. but we need we need go pros on those two idiots partying i don't want to be so sad be a sad sad sad event no i'm any interest in that i'd rather drink some raw milk

don't do just don't please don't tell people to do that like if you want to do it do it stop preaching about that's the other thing why does everyone have to tell everyone else what do you think the ice cream tastes like i've heard raw milk doesn't taste horrible this isn't a taste thing this is a health thing it's like creamier you can get it worms, like, you can get so many things from drinking, like, I'm, you literally, it's like, going up to a cow. It's like going up to a cow and drinking milk

out of its utter. No, that's not good for you. That's a crazy sentence. Like, what are we talking about here? Like, please, just don't. Did it drink it warm? I don't want to do that. No, it can be cold, but you don't have to. That's the whole, and other people like, you can keep it in your pantry for like six months. I'm like, no, you fucking can't. It's got dairy. I know. There's

so many myths about it and like it just takes reading i need peer reviewed articles if you want me to take you seriously and they're not going to be so like don't tell me because it was that uh my gut health is better what was the thing that we had to use the the journal like the the peer reviewed articles when we would write uh research papers bibliography no no no there was there was a specific uh fuck now i'm going to it's going to bother me but yeah there was like a specific site that all colleges had that you had oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh It was something journal or whatever. Yeah, whatever.

I blocked down most schooling from my brain. But, yeah. Anyway. Yeah. Didn't expect that one. Nothing else for me. That's all I got. That threw me for a loop there.

Yeah, don't tell people that. Yeah. You can do it all you want. Stop telling people to do it. It's not your job. Yeah. Even if you're nutritionist and you're doing that, then you're going against nutrition. That makes no sense.

Anyway, that's my spiel. No, I can. could do this for so much longer. Like, this is a topic that comes up amongst trainers a lot. I hear it in the gym a lot. And they're like, yeah, I feel great. I started drinking raw milk. I'm like, oh, shut up.

And then, like, that's the other thing. It's like, it's like people that do keto. They have to tell everybody they're doing it. If you fucking do it and shut up about it, like, no one fucking cares. Anyway, that's all I got. You got anything else? Nope. Okay, good.

Don't say anything else. Don't bait me. That's our show. Bro's got to go. Don't drink raw milk. Moo! Mm. Yeah.

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