Bros & Shows - Synthetic Hair and a Lisa Barlow Whisper Fight (RHOSLC Full Recap

Episode Date: January 5, 2026

What's up Bros? Hope you had a lovely and restful holiday because we are about to have a full docket. Up first is RHOSLC and in this episode the ladies are still in Greece. Mary voices her concern abo...ut Meredith from a friendly place. Britani continues to rub the ladies the wrong way and ruins the spa day. Lisa clocks Britani when she tries to play the sympathy card. As the season comes to a close, will Mary be able to get through to Meredith? Or is she done with the rumors and nastiness? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 All right. It's time to shake off that fog of the holidays. We got through that weird time between Christmas and New Year's where nothing means anything. Time is irrelevant. And yeah, I'm shaking off the rust. Shooter's shaking off the rust. And you guys at home are shaking off the rust from your ears. I'm in a really weird place right now where I'm actually craving going to work. Yeah, you know, it's a lot of weird shit happens this time of year. I don't like it. You can't tell me to like this because I don't like it. But, Yeah, not this work, real, like other work. You know what I'm talking about. I'm craving some sort of structure. I think that's what it is.
Starting point is 00:00:36 I feel like a toddler running around with no rules for about a week. And I can't do that. I'm not mature enough to do that. Add me. Bros and shows. I got to have me my pros and shows. Bros and shows. Rosen shows.
Starting point is 00:00:52 I got to have me my pros and shows. Good afternoon, everybody. Welcome back to another episode of Bros and shows. and shows. I'm your co-host. Steele Russell, joined, as always, by the what-at-only, 2026 Magoutes. What's up? New Year and New You. New Year, New Me. Let me start off with a complaint. Bravo. Same, same, same you. Bravo. Come here real quick. Let me just talk to you. What the fuck are we doing? Why? Why? When we map out a whole Housewife schedule, why in the hell, did you look at the schedule and say, you know, it'll be great. Let's have two weeks off
Starting point is 00:01:29 and then we'll do two final episodes just when you're starting to get into like the flow you're trying to understand everything you're in the midst of a trip to grease let's just take two weeks off and everybody's going to remember what happened no and also no i'm not going to watch the recap because i skip that every single time but also what do we do it it just doesn't make any sense like they should have mapped this out so that the reunion came after the holidays let us finish the season then take a couple weeks off talk about a lot of things that are going on Let things happen in social media, try to get Brittany on TikTok to talk about whatever the hell's going on in her life, and then get into the reunion for three weeks. It just doesn't make any sense that you're this close.
Starting point is 00:02:10 You've got two episodes left, and you're like, ugh, damn, who saw Christmas coming? God, Jesus was born today? Every year? Same day? Weird. I don't really get it. It just, it drives me insane. Like the other shows, I'm okay with.
Starting point is 00:02:24 It's still annoying, but I understand there's no workaround. But if you have a housewife show, your most successful franchise currently. currently why would you do this it makes no sense it's so stupid i don't know but i think the stupider thing is us expecting it to be different every year it's the third year we've done this and through the holidays and it's the third time that we're like what the fuck happened maybe we should be smarter we expected too much from bravo because they've had a good uh stretch recently so i think it got our hopes up which was dumb we should know better than that by now but we didn't and here we are i agree that would have been great two weeks off before the reunion to ruminate on
Starting point is 00:03:05 things speculate have a little chit chat with my boy figure out what we're thinking no instead now it's a cluster fuck and we have 15 shows to cover in one week traders is coming back this week there's so much to do and you guys could have helped us out my favorite thing though about when we do this and complain is that we do it from such a personal place of like hey bravo what the fuck how could you do this to us and it is i know i that's how i feel but like hopefully everyone at home feels the same way that you've been personally slighted by the bravo network get it together guys because now we're starting 2026 on a rant all i understand is i get it if your day so your southern charm or your beverly hills and you are squared away
Starting point is 00:03:54 with Christmas Eve, Christmas, New Year's Eve, New Year's. That's unfair. I understand that. But then to do a Tuesday show, a Sunday show, a Monday show, because they also haven't been doing below deck that much, and then just have it all sit around for a couple of weeks just simply doesn't make a lot of sense. And yes, it is a personal slate. I'm taking it personally because now we have to wiggle our way back in there and try to
Starting point is 00:04:17 remember what happened the whole season to then go and just do the last two episodes. It just doesn't make any sense. and it really just grinds my gears, man. I'm just annoyed at Bravo. The other thing that I wanted to just say right off the bat, the Shaw's show is also coming back on Thursday. Oh, fuck, yeah. Coming back, but you know what I mean.
Starting point is 00:04:39 Coming back for the first time. It's called, I think it's called the Valley Shaw's edition. That's what I thought I saw, yeah. And that's crazy that we couldn't have thought of a better name. Shaws of the Valley? Like, what are you doing? That sounds great. Valley Shaw's?
Starting point is 00:04:55 Valley Shaw's. Like, I just, I'm never going to call it that. And I'm just getting ahead of that right now. I am never going to call it what it's actually called. I'm just going to call it Shaw's or I'm going to call it Shaw's the Valley. That's it. I'm going to call it. What is it, Shaw's, or the Valley Shaw's edition, right?
Starting point is 00:05:11 I think so. TVS. Oh, God. TVS E or VSE. Oh, God. No, I'm sorry. I'm still wrong. It's called the Valley Persian style.
Starting point is 00:05:23 That's better than Shaw's edition. Shaw's edition, yeah, yeah. That's on me. That's really on me, actually. Yeah, that's the Valley Persian style I'm actually okay with. That's different. But it's all the OGs. It's most, they're all mostly OGs from Shaw's of Sunset.
Starting point is 00:05:38 So to not have Shaw's. Wait, Shaw's of the Valley. Yeah. Hello. Wait, that's, what a way. The Valley not gets sunsets? I don't know. Whatever.
Starting point is 00:05:48 How strange. Done. anyway we have to move on i can't now shaw's their sunset is sunset boulevard yeah not but there's also sunsets that i don't know man why it's the beginning we're shaking out the rest let's just jump into this episode because i think as we're talking about it things are going to like pop back into my head so we start out with a little morning check and it's the morning after their big night in greece uh vibes were high that night despite brittney being Brittany.
Starting point is 00:06:20 I'm over Brittany, by the way. The shtick has run its course for me. Yeah. It's not funny and cute anymore. Now it's, it's so manic, but intentionally manic. Does that make sense?
Starting point is 00:06:33 Like, I'm not buying it. Yeah. So I think the charm, if you will, of Brittany is when they're home, when she can pop in and out of scenes. She's not there the entire time. It's a good point.
Starting point is 00:06:44 And then when they go on a trip, she's always around. So I don't know, because if you're going to have on the show, I think we both get annoyed when she's doing too much, but you have to imagine that the rest of the women are also getting annoyed. So it kind of puts us in their shoes. So we know how annoying she is. So that's why I think we're feeling that way. Whereas usually we can laugh her off. She's comedic relief. You get a couple of scenes with her and Jared that
Starting point is 00:07:06 looks like a pharmaceutical commercial or whatever it might be. Those scenes are just few and far between. And they're funny when they happen and they don't really have any ramifications on things that are actually going on in the group, but on a trip like this or even at the yacht, she's such like a focal point because she's got to be under every single one of their skins and then they go after her. So I think that's why we're getting so much more Brittany and I think that's why we're more annoyed. That's a good point.
Starting point is 00:07:31 And yeah, the Jared Brittany scenes are that of an infomercial. It's also, I've never worked in a corporate environment, as you well know. Yeah. But it's what I imagine when you watch like those sexual harassment videos. where they're like, oh, do this in the workplace. I didn't think that's where you were kidding. I think you were just going to say, like, you've got an annoying co-worker that sits next to you.
Starting point is 00:07:57 No, no, whatever. Sexual harassment, pandan. Yeah, if a man touches you like this or says this in the office, that's bad. Q. Jared, that's got a vibe I get. Yeah, that's pretty good. I like that. I can roll with that one. Yeah, you like that one?
Starting point is 00:08:12 Anyway, Meredith and L.B. are chit-chatting, but not after Angie takes a jar to the face. This woman is so accident prone, but I will say this, she's tough as nails, like never phased, you know, and they're saying it could have been
Starting point is 00:08:26 because of the lip filler that, you know, padded a little bit, but we saw the broken finger in the door, brushed it off. That looked gnarly, especially the second time through when you actually have to watch the whole thing.
Starting point is 00:08:37 Now she takes a jar to the face, laughs it off. She's tough. So nice job, Angie. Way to stand strong there. But L.B. and Meredith are talking vibes are better and we get clips from dinner and it was a really good time
Starting point is 00:08:51 Meredith's like she's she's in a good place right now she ended on a good note she's trying which is what I like to see and the last two or one and a half episodes because she came on at the end of that dinner episode where they were cooking with that beautiful greasian man there you go it's a great reminder like this is why she's on the show she's great she's so good at this when she's on and I'm so glad that she's getting back to a place and I think a lot of it can be chalked up to she's fed up with a lot of the cast is the vibe that I'm getting and she didn't allow for the people that are under her skin to mess up her trip in this episode she's like you know what I'm going to have fun in spite of Brittany in spite of Whitney the knees are really getting to
Starting point is 00:09:37 Meredith is what I've gathered yeah she's taking a couple of knees to the face and she's bounce back really well. I, so I'm in a weird spot with Meredith anyway because I do think this is when we get the most out of her is a trip and obviously you can point to the fact that she doesn't live in Salt Lake
Starting point is 00:09:53 so she flies in and out for her scenes. And that's why she seems checked out, which completely makes sense. That's a problem for Bravo. I'm not even going to analyze that one because we're in Greece right now. But this is what you can get from Meredith. This is what you used to get from Meredith when she was around all the time and she actually had relationships with everybody that went
Starting point is 00:10:09 past just the show. And I think that she's doing a good job of bouncing back, but more than that, I think what's happening is Whitney, Brittany, Brittany, Heather, they're all being so goddamn annoying. Like, you can say Meredith isn't having the best season, of course. You can say she's not answering to a lot of the things that she did. Just point to the plain thing. We still don't know what the fuck happened. And she's downplaying it like crazy.
Starting point is 00:10:33 And that is driving me crazy. But it hits a point where Whitney, Heather and Brittany are making it so insufferable on that end, then I'm taking Meredith's side. And when you look at it from like 5,000 feet above, you're looking at Meredith, annoyed at what she's doing, annoyed at her performance. And yet, I'm still on her side because the other three won't shut up. Just move on. Like, if Meredith, who is the target the whole time, you guys are going after her.
Starting point is 00:11:00 You tried to go after her on the yacht with the talk about the TikTok video with Seth and a mistress and having another family, you guys keep trying to go after her. And I get it. You want to get a rise out of her and you think that that's what you're going to do. and that's your storyline fine don't keep doing it if meredith's able to bounce back and have a good time you guys should easily be able to bounce back and have a good time don't try to swing this well i called you a pill popper and an alcoholic because i'm worried about you and then when someone else starts talking about them being worried about meredith you jump in you're like i'm worried too
Starting point is 00:11:29 you're not because it's just not the course that you should take to try to help out a friend it makes zero sense so i'm not reading into that at all that's annoying whitney by heather stop just stop what you're doing. I know you're just gearing up for some finale, probably next week or whatever this actually airs. I think it's Tuesday night is the finale. Now I'm all screwed up. I think tomorrow night is the finale. Yeah, Tuesday night is the finale. We know what we're going to get out of Heather. She's going to try to have this whole speech. She's going to shoehorn in all of the moments that she's had over the season to try to make it all fit together in a nice, perfect speech that everybody's going to play for the entire off season. Just enough. Like you could
Starting point is 00:12:07 have done nothing for weeks and then gone into that and we would have just like kind of shrugged our shoulders but now we're annoyed with you brittany go away and i get it it's just tough when meredith is able to come back and have a good time in spite of those three and now they're pissed off that she's having a good time i just don't get it well that's it's not even pissed off they just acknowledge it to the point where it's like all right that's going to mess this whole thing up because you get a little side conversation between the three of them the three problematic ones that won't shut up about stuff. They're like, oh, my God, she's so happy.
Starting point is 00:12:42 How long's that going to last? It's like when you go up to somebody that's not grumpy and say, hmm, you seem kind of grumpy. And now they're grumpy. Let her live. Like she's viving. Why go talk about something else because you guys don't have things going on in your life. Doesn't mean you have to keep piling on to Meredith.
Starting point is 00:12:57 That being said, I've been critical of Meredith all season. I'm not now like, oh, Maris had the best season ever. But as a cast, especially this cast, which pride itself on being close-knit, part of it is working with your castmates, right? Getting the best out of them as well. It's not always dig, dig, dig, let's uncover some bullshit. Sometimes it's what can I do to support my castmate because now Meredith's showing up, which is good for all of us.
Starting point is 00:13:25 It's good for the show. It's good for the cast as a whole. So what can I do to bolster Meredith in this moment rather than, oh, I'm going to take another dig because what's going to end up happening, especially when we get to the spa day, And it's a gorgeous spot, by the way, looks lovely. But you get Mary, Bronwyn, and Whitney talking about Meredith, right? And they're talking about where she's at. They're concerned about her.
Starting point is 00:13:50 And this is the first real conversation about this topic that I've actually respected. And that's because Mary was at the helm of it. And Mary knows how to discuss this kind of topic without throwing out crazy allegations like Whitney. And, of course, the funny thing is that Whitney is that Whitney is. now going to co-sign Mary and be like, exactly. That's what I've been saying. Like, oh, my God, yeah. It's like, no, you called her a pill popper and an alcoholic. Mary discusses subtleties. She's not flat out saying it, but she's saying the rage thing. The rage is out of control. She forgets stuff. There's a lot of mood swings. I think she needs help. She did not say,
Starting point is 00:14:30 I think she needs rehab. She did not say, I think she's got a drinking problem. She's alluding to things gently. That's what you do, especially on an actual TV show where other people are going to see this. That's how you minimize the speculation. And he don't get people out here saying crazy things like pill pop or an alcoholic. Because Mary has gone through similar things with Robert Jr., she is simply talking about the behaviors that Meredith is eliciting right now. She's not saying why, because they don't know why. But in her confessional, she goes a little bit further. She's concerned because these things point to something that she's experienced with Robert Jr. She doesn't want that to be the same thing with Meredith. That's how this
Starting point is 00:15:13 is done. Bravo, Mary, once again, for doing this topic the right way. But it is a little bit infuriating because you get Whitney, who is now able to say, like, it's everything I've been saying, Mary. And now I'm concerned, too. It's like you're not concerned. You're not concerned. If you were, then you would have approached it entirely differently. And the craziest thing is she's still talking about her dad. That whole thing left the building when you brought it up the way you did. You can't allude to your father anymore the same way that Mary's alluding to Robert Jr. Because again, what she's saying about Robert Jr.'s comparisons to Meredith is simply the behaviors that they're eliciting.
Starting point is 00:15:57 It is not, oh, she's doing drugs. So she's doing what Robert Jr. did. Like these little subtleties for all of you out there that don't know as much about this topic, the subtleties are the important part because that's how you avoid saying some shit that can push somebody down a further path. They need to know that you're coming from a place of concern because you want them to be okay, not because of alcohol, because of drugs, simply because of how they are feeling and acting. You get to the root of it later. So I thought Mary did a great job with this whole thing. Before I go to the next thing, do you have anything to comment on about that conversation? Because they jumped to Bronwyn's revelation right during all of this.
Starting point is 00:16:38 Yeah, no, I think that the start of the conversation was really good and it's because of Mary. It's because of Bronwyn. And I like the way the Bronwyn was doing that. I don't want her to kind of fade away into the shadows. She was allowing Mary to talk because Bronwyn says, I don't have a lot of experience with this, but I can tell something's off. It's so big. It's such an easy way to do it because you can tell Mary is actually upset about this and she wants to talk about it. I think she would probably choose different people.
Starting point is 00:17:04 I think Brahma would be part of that. I think Angie would be part of that. Maybe not Whitney because of what Whitney does later. Whitney, this might be unfair to say, but shut the fuck up about your dad. You haven't talked about your dad since season one when he popped up with that wig. Once he popped up with that wig and there was a whole thing that you were talking about, it was relevant because you were. we're sharing that part of your family. We haven't talked about your dad.
Starting point is 00:17:28 We haven't talked about any of your siblings since the end of season one, beginning of season two. It is now season six. Enough. Just enough. You won't share that part of your life. But now that it's quote unquote relevant because of what Meredith's going through, you can speak on it because you went through that.
Starting point is 00:17:42 You've experienced that. No one wants to hear what you have to say. You started off way too strong and way too negative for you to even have a say anymore. And I'm upset with the rest of the cast. And I'm not really going to say I'm upset with Mary because Mary. he's going to handle it differently, but no one's going to condemn her. Yeah, they're going to say, hey, Whitney, you can't say that. It should be way harsher than that.
Starting point is 00:18:02 It really should be. And I feel like because most of these women are either checked out or they're in their own little world or they're just trying to protect what's theirs and they're so individualistic at this point that they don't really care, it's not just about Meredith, it's about everyone. You shouldn't allow Whitney to say something about anyone that you guys encounter to that magnitude. It just shouldn't be something that should be said. So no one goes after Whitney.
Starting point is 00:18:24 she gets more and more power and she's dumb enough to think that what Mary's saying is exactly what she's been saying when it's just not at all and she thinks whoa Mary's on the same page as me this is the first time Mary and I've been on the same team you're not on the same team Mary just really needs to talk about this because she feels like she's drawing parallels to behaviors that she's seen from other people but again not saying drugs not saying alcohol that's the right way to talk about it Bronwyn good job for you by allowing Mary to talk and then asking questions that's how that's supposed to work. Whitney, shut the fuck up. I don't want to hear it anymore. No, I mean, that's perfectly said. Hi, I'm Mike Carruthers, host of the podcast, Something You Should Know.
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Starting point is 00:21:17 A big part of me is like, fuck, can we just not, we know where this is going to go. When Seth is brought up, she shuts down entirely. Yeah. On the flip side, the small flip side, the majority of me is on just leave it alone, there's a small part of me that still thinks about Columbus, Ohio. There's a small part of me that still thinks, like, hanging by a thread means more than we think it does. And there's a bigger part here where it's like, okay, from a show stand. point. I know I just said, hey, let's support your castmates when they're performing well to help them perform better. At the same time, if this really did happen, if Bronwyn really ran
Starting point is 00:21:58 into Seth with some lady in New York and it looked sketchy, who as a housewife is not going to bring that up at some point? Yeah, I get it. It just seems very out of left field. And I know you can. Yeah, I think you have to understand the subject. and who's talking. It seems out of left field. I know what she's trying to do. She's trying to draw some sort of result, some sort of reason for what Meredith's behavior is.
Starting point is 00:22:29 And she's saying it could be this. But there's nothing really there. Even the way that she talks about this, she was sitting there with Todd having dinner. Seth walked in with another woman. And he said she was an investor and it was a client meeting. And then they sat down and it didn't seem like a client meeting. That's not really enough for me.
Starting point is 00:22:47 honestly at all. I know that there's some smoke there, but the majority of the smoke is so goddamn vague and it's so out there. It's always vague. In their defense, it's always, always vague. It is always vague. And I know, you know, even now, because I follow her on TikTok, her and Seth are posting up a storm. They're like Turks and Kekos. That was posting pictures and like posting videos together of snuggling on the beach. It was very bizarre. Is that what that was? I feel like, I feel very uncomfortable watching any of their scenes together. But I'm going to come to their defense for this one. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:18 Because again, there's not enough there, just like all of the other shit. It's all very TikTok centric. It's all very, here's a blogger that talks about Bravo, talking about somebody that knows somebody that saw some people at a restaurant and they were hanging out together and it seemed like they were schmoozing. I just don't think it's relevant at all. I really don't. And I think Brahmin's trying a little too hard.
Starting point is 00:23:41 It's not overbearing, but I think she's trying a little too hard here just to try to bring something to the table. We're talking about Meredith. Well, Whitney's over here talking about her fucking dad. Mary's got a really good idea about what's going on over here. I have to contribute in some way. This is what I think's going on. And it goes back to Seth and her. I think that's what she's trying to do. I just, I don't really support it because of how vague it is. I agree with that. I agree with that. I was trying to see it from the standpoint of if you're going to bring it up. Like, is there a defense for bringing it up? Like, hey, I saw this. I actually saw this i don't know what to do with this again it just just stop just stop going after
Starting point is 00:24:21 set and merritt because my bigger thing with it unless you have a smoking gun there there it is that's what it is because of how vague all of this evidence has been for five seasons now six seasons the only time this should be brought up is smoking gun territory i saw set in new york with his hand around another woman's waist going to dinner that didn't happen don't clip No, no. But that, that to me, like, all right, bring that up. This is, it's more of the same, more of the same, more of the same, which in other franchises, I could brush it. Like, if it was Potomac where we do this all the time, we're always saying, oh, I saw your husband doing this.
Starting point is 00:24:59 That's normal. They brush it off. We move on fast. This will derail Meredith. And that's just going to be back to where she was two or three episodes ago where she's not giving anything. It could just be something as simple as let me get this out there now, but let's not bring it up to Meredith. right now while we're in Greece. We'll talk about it at the reunion type of situation.
Starting point is 00:25:17 Witness there, no shot. Yeah, that's a really good point. She'll probably bring it up very quickly. Yeah, see, I don't know, because there's the other side of that, which is just because Meredith shuts down every single time that you talk about something that has to do with her and her relationship or her and, you know, her behaviors, doesn't mean that you shouldn't bring it up because then you're not doing your job for the sake of what? You're getting annoyed that she doesn't answer your questions.
Starting point is 00:25:40 It still means that you're a pretty good housewife. it actually just shows and shines a light on Meredith's behavior. It shines more of a light on the fact that she's not really doing her job because there's so many things that she won't talk about. And yet you're on a housewife show. You're supposed to talk about everything. So I don't know. Again, the subject matter, there's not enough there for me to say, oh, wow, this is good.
Starting point is 00:26:00 Bring this up to Meredith. But also you shouldn't shy away from bringing things up to Meredith just because she shuts things down. That's how we get to a point where we've got a housewife or there that can't be questions. What a pickle. What a pickle we find ourselves. It's a weird situation. Yeah. Again, if this was more of a smoking gun, I would be behind it.
Starting point is 00:26:18 I wouldn't give a shit what Meredith thinks, says, or does. We would sit here and talk about the legitimacy of it, sure. And then we would always know she's not going to address it. She's just going to shut it down. She's going to walk away. She's going to be mean, say something crazy, bring up a rumor, and then deflect and walk away. That's what she always does. But if you have a smoking gun, let it out.
Starting point is 00:26:37 Let everybody know. I agree. Now, we're on the same. Fame page. We're on the same page with that one, Thudder. Yep. So let's move on to the hot plunge. That's what this looked like.
Starting point is 00:26:49 You know, you get to walk through. I don't know if it changes temperatures as you traverse this, this weird tub that they were in. Yeah. But it was a good vibe. And of course, Brittany ruins it by splashing water. But then it's like, okay, but in her defense, and I don't like defending her, but in her defense, Meredith, you, you dumped a water jug on her multiple times. So, like, can we really get that pissed off that she just flicked some water on her? I know she's doing the most.
Starting point is 00:27:17 I know it's annoying. I know she's probably on your nerves. But, like, you, you can't get mad at her when you dumped water on her. Right. And then she flicks water on you. I'm going to eviscerate her the rest of this episode. This is the only time I can really defend Brittany and only, I don't even want to defend her in this. But can, is that okay for, for Marith to be?
Starting point is 00:27:40 like what the fuck uh because of who it is yeah um brittney hasn't done anything to get back into the good graces of people she's just kind of there and the only thing that she really does is annoy people so it just depends on who it is again if you're on a trip with a bunch of friends and there's a weirdo out there that you really don't like and the majority of the group doesn't like but it's this person's cousin and you're like oh god we have to deal with this fucking idiot again and they're splashing you you're going to be pissed off but if i walk by and splash it could be fun it just depends on who it is i don't think brittany's done enough she's talking about how we're all having a great time we're on a trip together it's a
Starting point is 00:28:14 girl's trip let's have fun they don't like you so don't splash them try to you know get back in their good graces just be nice for like a day or two have a couple of laughs and then do it then at least if you splash then you can be like okay you'll have people like us sitting here you guys had a great morning what are you talking about like you guys just raced in the pool you did a bunch of things that looked like a lot of fun it looks like you guys are getting along maybe she misread the information i don't know but it didn't seem like that much this was different just because everybody clearly hates Brittany, especially Angie
Starting point is 00:28:44 and Meredith. So if you're going to splash those two and those are the two people that you're going to go splash, no, it's just not a good move by Brittany. She's the Rafi. We say a lot. Yeah, yeah, exactly. If you watch the league, you'll get that reference. But anyway, this was an exceptional Lisa Barlow episode.
Starting point is 00:29:04 She is back full force and they're sitting after the spot, or they're in the spa still, but after the water, whatever, and they're having a whisper fight. And these are the moments that I live for in Housewives world because it's stuff like this where it's just so funny and they're whispering and they're still getting told to be quiet and they still end up getting kicked out. But it's about the hair thing. And Brittany's like, you know, I just wanted to lighten the mood by splashing water on her hair.
Starting point is 00:29:31 And it's like, well, it's different because like we have real hair, but your hair is synthetic. It doesn't, it just runs off. It's not a big deal. The only thing that I will, again, defend is somebody says, we're too old to dump water on people's hair. I was like, ah, you lost me there because of the boat. I agree with you. We shouldn't have done the water splashing in the tub because we're trying to get back
Starting point is 00:29:57 in the good graces, like just chill, bro. But you can't use that line, that complete and against the argument, because you started it by pouring water on her hair. Just be honest and just say, I don't like you, Brittany. I mean, Meredith does get to that point at some point at the latter end of this conversation, but just be honest. And like, I think everybody would understand it and you wouldn't have you sitting here saying, yeah, you lost me because you already did that a while ago. She returned the favor so you don't get to say that right now. But if you were just honest and just saying, Brittany, I don't like you.
Starting point is 00:30:29 I just simply don't like you. Get away from me. Stop acting like we're friends. We're not friends. I would have more respect for that than anything. don't worry she completely puts her foot in her mouth immediately and any defense that she had is gone because she starts getting emotional and goes not one of you has asked me if Olivia texted yesterday because no one cares dude you are not in the same boat as these
Starting point is 00:30:53 other moms and that's what she needs to understand you need to be coming at this from a place of i fuck this whole thing up i'm trying my best you can tell them hey i took initiative on mothers day and texted my daughter. That's what you honestly should do. She shouldn't text you on Mother's Day. You should text her and say, I'm so grateful to be a mother today because you owe her. She doesn't, Olivia owes you nothing, absolutely nothing. If she cut all ties, I really wouldn't feel that bad because you're still not getting it.
Starting point is 00:31:25 Like you can still see as she navigates the show and when she does bring her up and then she brings up Jared or men in general, you're still not understanding. So I'm not buying any of the shit that I've ever. I've seen between her and Olivia. For Olivia's sake, I hope that it's real, but I really don't think it is. I think it's completely for the camera. She's trying to save face. But the ladies let her know, Lisa takes charge.
Starting point is 00:31:49 This is based on your choices, Brittany. No, it's not. You have no idea what you've been through. You told us. You literally told us. This is still Lisa talking. And this is us at home going, what are you talking about? We did this whole song and dance where you actually took.
Starting point is 00:32:06 accountability for being a horrible mom for picking men over your children for causing a huge divide between you and your children and now because you're trying to play sympathy cards you're trying to get people to feel bad for you you're trying to tell them that they don't understand your situation and then she acknowledges that she's full of shit because she was like well i was just being vulnerable being vulnerable does not mean that what you're saying is not the truth Being vulnerable means you allowed them to see past your exterior to understand what really happened. But now because you're trying to save face and this scene proves that, now you're trying to spin it as though none of you have any sympathy for me. I'm a mom too.
Starting point is 00:32:49 You guys all talked about your kids on Mother's Day that you didn't get to talk to Brooks, but you didn't ask, nobody cares because of what you've done to your kids and the relationships you have with them. You are officially the worst parent on Bravo, and there's some horrible, horrible people on this network. And yet you've trounced them all. It's, I love the discourse about Brittany just because it's probably the easiest route. It's just stop being an idiot. Be a little nicer to people. Stop acting like your best friends with everybody. And like you said, it's really just putting yourself in the best position because, yeah, the women are going to be mean to you.
Starting point is 00:33:29 but when the women are mean to you, the audience either agrees with them because you're an idiot and a bad mom and you've told us that already, or we just don't like you and that's okay too. But the other thing is, if they're mean to you and you're in a position of, I hate using this word for her, but power, then you're in the right. And people are going to like that and people are going to defend you online. If you did what you just said, if you said, I don't even care if you do this because you're probably not going to do it. But if you told the women, I reached out to Olivia yesterday. I was feeling really upset. She didn't reach out to me. But you know what? I kind of put myself in this position. So I reached out and I said,
Starting point is 00:34:04 hey, I'm really thankful to be your mother today because all the other women are talking to their kids. And I want to get back to a place that makes sense for us. If you told the women that and they were mean to you, even though you're a bad mom and have a shit track record, we would have your back because we'd say, nope, there's a line here. You can't cross that line. She's trying to be a better mom. Don't knock her down. This is going to be bad for her. But you don't do that. You instead just lie your ass off and say that you've never told these women that you were a bad mom. And we have this on film over the last two seasons of you being a bad mom.
Starting point is 00:34:37 I'm happy that the other women called you out on it because there are so many different situations where even though it doesn't do a whole lot because it's Brittany and she doesn't hold that much weight in the group, there are so many situations where she does something outlandish, crazy, lies her ass off and no one calls her out simply because they don't care. They just don't feel like getting wrapped up in her nonsense. This is one of those situations where I'm glad that everybody just stood up immediately looked at her and called her out or on her bullshit because that was deserved. It was. And this was the right time to do it. And I think it hits a different nerve probably for a couple of reasons.
Starting point is 00:35:12 One, they're all probably missing their kids. They did miss Mother's Day with their kids. So they're probably in their feels a little bit. And they are all good moms. So I'm sure when she tries to draw comparisons, I'm sure every single one of them are like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, do not put me in the same boat as you. That is not the same thing.
Starting point is 00:35:29 And it causes a Britney spiral. She starts spiraling. We get unseen footage of her crying in the sprinter van. So where's Mother's Day? Nobody called or texted. Why? Why, dude? Because of you, not because of your kids.
Starting point is 00:35:43 Your kids, we've met one of them. She seems awesome. So it's clearly not their problem. It's a you problem. And I love that Lisa just doubles down. And this tells you. how back she is because it's not like overly emotional, it's not overly aggressive. She's like, oh, yeah, I thought that was fake.
Starting point is 00:36:00 That totally was a fake cry in the van. You know, that's just kind of your check, your checklist for empathy. You cry, cry, cry for my daughters, get attention, check. And great delivery from Lisa, because by not getting in her face about it, when Brittany responds by getting amped up, it's like, whoa, a little defensive there, huh? You're projecting a little bit. And this moment was my full-blown Heather moment. I know what happens throughout this was it right here.
Starting point is 00:36:29 Because she is so far down this, I need to pin something to Lisa. I need to that you then flip the script. And you defend Britney of all people in this. What are you talking about? How on earth could you defend her? When everyone there is calling her out for this shit, And she's like, well, whoa, whoa, well, because you don't like the pile on is what she says later.
Starting point is 00:36:53 She tries to defend the pylon. You don't get to do that, Heather. Your move every season is to pile up on Lisa. You're forcing pylons currently. Correct. You're pissed off that the Lisa one didn't work. He missed your opportunity there. And you're trying to get a pile on for Meredith right now.
Starting point is 00:37:09 You just don't want people to deviate away from that. Hey, let's not take the attention away. I was really hoping that we'd have a spa moment here where we could talk about Meredith's behavior. Oh, we're talking about Brittany. I don't like this, guys. I don't like this. This wasn't in the cards for me. She makes it a lot worse later by doing the same exact thing she's doing in this scene.
Starting point is 00:37:27 But it's just stupid. You get the complaint from the noise. The lady comes in and goes, hey, guys, like, please shut the fuck up. And then Brittany decides to go back after Meredith in the dumbest way possible. Even for her, this was stupid. And goes, she uses her kids for sympathy. And she gets to see them every day. Meredith, great response.
Starting point is 00:37:48 Yeah, bitch. because I worked on our relationship. I work on it every day. I care about my kids and they know that. I have relationships with them because of that. You don't because of you. And Meredith gets up and walks away and she should. She should get up and while.
Starting point is 00:38:05 You owe her nothing more in this conversation because Brittany, why would you start that fight? And then the only way to make it worse is when Meredith walks away, you drop it. You can leave on her. Shut up. and everyone there's like stop stealing other people's lines stop it don't trademark that one either like you're so unoriginal and and not interesting that not only can you see that your potential
Starting point is 00:38:31 storylines that you're trying to write for yourself are bad stupid and we're not on board you also can't even come up with your own lines you stole high body hair high body hair high body count hair that's it Jesus my post holidays give me a break it's okay and now you're trying to say you can leave that's one of her biggest ones that was so dumb this is i think example it should just be example a example one whatever you want to call it of why brittany can never be a full-time housewife this is it right here she just she's unoriginal she's got nothing going on she just lies she brings things up that don't really make any sense in the moment she doesn't have iconic moments she doesn't really get involved Yeah, there's some pylons here and there that we can do without.
Starting point is 00:39:17 But she shouldn't be a full-time housewife. And I'm going to take it one step further. She shouldn't really go on these long cast trips. She just simply shouldn't. I think not only is she very unintertaining after a little bit of time where it's just an eye roll after an eye roll, but also the rest of the women are just very irritated by her. And I think that she derails good conversations that could be happening. Not that I really want to talk about Meredith's behavior, but we could have had it in a different way during this.
Starting point is 00:39:44 spa where maybe it's brought up like, wow, you're in such a better mood today. How is everything going? Do you want to talk about anything? And maybe she would talk about something. But instead, we're talking about Brittany stealing people's lines and not being a good mom. I get it. She's part of the show. So you do want to talk about these things. But not right now. And you can tell the other women are just getting annoyed by her. And it's really, really taking away from the show, in my opinion. So this is for everybody out there that wants to say Britney should be a full-time housewife. She shouldn't she shouldn't go on long cast trips she can go on the RV trip in the beginning of the season for one night but she shouldn't be in Greece for four nights with the women she just simply
Starting point is 00:40:19 should not because no one is close to her enough to the point where we actually get a couple of battles where people are defending her Heather's not really defending her she just doesn't want to talk about this she wants to talk about something else it's just useless honestly at this point it just deviates from the actual shit we want to talk about because even when we do get in those conversations where we're talking about stuff that we want to hear, she has to jump in and point it back at herself. So no matter what's going on, Brittany is shoving her nose into the situation and fucking up the episode.
Starting point is 00:40:50 Like it's no longer, oh, funny Britney moment. It's like, oh, God, dude, we're trying to talk about real shit. Now you're trying to talk about your kid that hates you. We know she hates you. She's probably going to continue to hate you because you're not doing anything to fix the relationship. So shush. Anyway.
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Starting point is 00:42:56 this show breaks down Real Housewives Reality TV and the moments everyone's group chat is arguing about. Roxanne's been spilling Bravo T since 2010, and yes, we've interviewed Housewives royalty, like Countess Luann and Teresa Judice, Smart Recaps, Insider Energy, and Zero Fluff. Listen to All About Tier H Podcasts on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you listen, new episodes weekly. We get a Heather and Whitney debrief after all of this, and they're back at the hotel or that whatever they're staying, getting ready for dinner. This is Whitney's M.O. This is what she does every season.
Starting point is 00:43:32 Tries to pick a fight, takes the wrong approach. Someone's actually going through something. something and then once someone else shows compassion she flips her script and goes i i'm really worried about her too because you the fact that she says after lunch i realized i i am worried about her i do i do care i love her the fuck you talking about like that that was your epiphany is listening to mary be normal about the situation like that tells me that no you don't care it's just you know you are i look whitney drives me nuts i don't think whitney's stupid i really don't and i think that she understands now that mary's going to go at this a whole different direction mary's going to go at this as a friend as someone that cares as someone that really does love
Starting point is 00:44:20 meredith she can't be on the outside yelling at meredith because that would look horrible it would look even worse than it already does so she's like hmm got to change my approach a little bit i'm going to be on mary's team now i love you meredith I'm worried about you. This is literally what she does. It is textbook Whitney. Whoops, went too far. I'm going to get on the other person's team because they're doing a better job than I am.
Starting point is 00:44:43 If she does that and she allows Mary to take the reins and she really doesn't interject that much, it's a better situation than what we've had. I agree. Because at least then it's not you and Heather trying to talk about it because you and Heather don't even agree about what you guys are talking about. Even if we're supposed to take you for face value and you're actually worried about Meredith's behavior, Heather's not worried about Meredith's behavior. Heather just wants Meredith to answer for her crimes. She wants her to take responsibility for her own actions, which she's not doing.
Starting point is 00:45:10 And now she's getting all pissed off about it and trying to force the issue. You're worried about her behavior. Mary's really worried about her behavior. So flip over to that side, let Mary take the reins and shut up. You're not adding anything to the conversation. You are best served when you interject like one or two lines there where it's like, I've got a little perspective on this. Let me put that in there. and it actually makes sense to the conversation that we're having.
Starting point is 00:45:33 It's not something completely out of left field like comparing her to your dad. Again, your dad is a known alcoholic and drug addict. That's not what Meredith is. As much as you want her to be that or you want her to admit that, that's not what we're doing right now. We're just talking to her about her behavior. That's all we're doing right now. If it gets deeper, it gets deeper, but that's not for you to say. That's really where we are right now.
Starting point is 00:45:54 So if she allows Mary to have that conversation with Meredith and she's hanging around, Meredith might get pissed off at Whitney's presence, but if you're not saying anything, she can't really do a whole lot because you are there and you've spoken some things out here and there. It's a better situation than Whitney and Heather going after Meredith. I agree. I'm on board.
Starting point is 00:46:11 It's just funny to watch her 180 on shit. She just because she realized she has no leg to stand on. So she's like, oops, I'm going to change it now. I agree. It's a much better scenario than what we had previously. It's just funny to call it out every time she does it because she does it every season. Now, in the Sprinter, this cast does Sprinter vans better than anybody.
Starting point is 00:46:33 We're on our way to dinner and we're talking about trees. Love this. I agree, Lisa. Trees are fascinating. They do communicate. We never see Lisa's house, by the way. Did you know that? I just honestly realized that when they showed her with her talking trees.
Starting point is 00:46:46 She must have done something. I vaguely remember something a few years ago that she talked to Bravo about not actually showing her house. So there was a couple of seasons there where they would just show a random house when they would be like, Here we are at Lisa's house, but it was just a random house, probably in a vacant house in Salt Lake City. She doesn't want her house shown. I don't really blame her. I'm surprised more housewives don't do this. It's just a little much.
Starting point is 00:47:09 You can look things up online. You guys don't live in L.A. You're not in Beverly Hills. Unless you have some top of the line security, you probably don't want people to know where you live. So I don't really blame her for that. My problem is Lisa's house looks cool as shit, and I do want to see it. So Lisa, if you can go on TikTok and just do a little tour, I'd be all on for that one. yeah like your episode of cribs they should bring cribs back i think there's too many crazy
Starting point is 00:47:33 people in the world to do cribs now yeah yeah there is i mean as far as i know there's still like a there's a bus tour that still goes through hollywood the people's houses but oh the star maps the star maps yeah yeah get your star maps go check out some celebs houses sounds sick i love I don't want to do that from the outside. I don't want to do that. You can go do that. But the conversation changes and takes a weird route because now we're talking about Britney throwing up.
Starting point is 00:48:04 And all of this is just coming from Meredith being fed up and just doing to Brittany what Brittany has done to her, what Whitney has done to her. And she brings up the vomiting thing. She said, I heard that Britney was throwing up the entire time because she was drinking all day. She would wake up and drink and then she'd puke and drink some more. That sounds like alcoholic behavior to me. Blah, blah, blah. I heard it from a little birdie. Cut to Bronwyn, who's clearly the one that told her. Everyone knows that Bromwin's the one that told her. But what Bronwyn said was she threw up in the bathroom, period.
Starting point is 00:48:38 Not alluding to any reason why I didn't say she drank so much, she threw up in the bathroom. Meredith took that and ran with it. Don't love it, but can you blame her? Like she's been called a pill pop or an alcoholic and all sorts of other things. It's also a direct callback to the season prior when Brittany said that she heard Meredith in the bathroom every night throwing up and crying and on the phone crying. So I have a small problem with it, but I don't, in the grand scheme of things, and it's for what we've been doing this year on this show with alcoholism, this is very, very tame. This is just a just a little bit of a get back. I think it's a good sign for Meredith that she's doing this. Again, it doesn't really move the needle for me, but it's still good behavior compared to what we've had.
Starting point is 00:49:19 from Meredith the last couple of episodes, so I'm okay with it. It's simply just going to poke at at you. You know what? If you're going to keep doing this shit, Whitney's going to keep doing this shit. If you've got things to say about me, I heard this. I'm going to pull this one out. Why not? Just throw it out there. It's not going to stick, but I don't really care. And you can see it on Meredith's face. She doesn't really care that Brittany's not getting all pissed off and crying and doing this and that and whatever. She seems more confused than anything else, but it really just shows you there's a glaring difference between the two. Every time you bring up Meredith, which we're going to talk about shortly, Lisa is going to jump in and try to explain
Starting point is 00:49:52 away because they're friends and they have each other's backs. No one's got Brittany's back. They're just kind of confused, bewildered at what's going on, but they're not really defending Brittany. It's simply just Meredith wants to poke at you. You're going to have to let her poke at you. If you're going to keep doing this to her, she's going to do it back to you and see how you like it. That's all it was.
Starting point is 00:50:09 Like, there's no other way to put it. So let's go to dinner at Bardo. And we could talk about Buffalo Barada for a while. We don't have to do that. We got a Bronwyn family update. And I have a question for you. Sure. Because this is where my head went immediately.
Starting point is 00:50:27 This is not a serious question. Well, you think Todd and Muzzy are making out? Yeah. Is that where you were going with it? They're closer at age, you know. I, look, she tries to spin this in the, this is the side of Todd that nobody ever sees. The fact that he's going up to San Francisco to go help her move out of my childhood home and things are getting a little crazy. And I'm over here in Greece.
Starting point is 00:50:50 I don't think it's that dire. I think that it was nice that he got on a plane and went out there to go help her out. But is this a talking point? No, not really at all. And what it also does is anytime I hear stuff like that or my favorite line, you don't know them like I do, that's my favorite one. If you have to constantly defend your significant other with lines such as you don't know them like I do, this is the side that other people don't see, that to me tells me,
Starting point is 00:51:17 tells me that he's an asshole that he has let's take it a step further since we have to talk about this because we're talking about it already uh maybe todd's got a little bit of a mile high finish if you know what i mean maybe he can only look at pictures of other women and flirt and cheat on his phone 30 000 pieces yeah yeah so he's go oh i'll hop on a plane what is a short plane ride i got a little bit of time right here let me pull my phone out let me just make sure i get a private cabin in first class where I can draw the shades and no one can see what I'm doing over here actually it's a little bit more fun when people can see what I'm doing up here that's you know what that's where we're gonna go ah he likes the risk factor that's what
Starting point is 00:52:00 get Todd going you yeah I didn't like that I don't like it either I don't like it either to get instead of gets too that was weird that's because it's post holidays and I'm struggling to form words and sentences right now dad go it did tag going. Hell yeah, brother. No, hell no, brother. I don't like that. No, no. But back to Buffalo Parano. Yeah, let's talk about Buffalo Parano again. That sounds much better. But I was not expecting a Sambuca call out.
Starting point is 00:52:29 Sambuka holds a special place in my heart, thanks to our high school baseball coaches. Sure does. It's also the grossest liquor ever invented. It's like a step up from Mallort. Malort's here. I had Malort for the first time, like two months ago. It was god-awful. I would say it's a step below Rumbleman's.
Starting point is 00:52:54 Okay. Yeah. That's where I'm going to put it. That's a good gold schlager. Gold schlager, yeah. Oof. It's got gold flakes. So it cuts your throat so you get drunker.
Starting point is 00:53:06 Fucking idiots. Anyway, let's get to the boat and the alcohol fallout is what I called it. Because this is where Meredith explains that Brittany was an alcoholic. on the boat because you heard from a little birdie all that stuff that i talked about already everything comes out what i don't like and this is honestly going back to whitney whitney's the one that has allowed for conversations and comments like this to happen because now you've got lisa saying i out at alky fucking hated that doesn't make it cute no and all these other things where now we're pointing fingers saying that people have substance abuse problems you're an alcoholic
Starting point is 00:53:46 You're an alcoholic, and it completely demeans from the whole thing, especially when you have Mary sitting at this fucking table, guys. She's living this right now. Robert is up and down. So this is an awful thing to do in front of her. And it's being taken so lightly. Now, look, I am not going to get on my soapbox about shit. If there's like a couple of alcoholic jokes here and there, if someone's making those references, I'm not going to cry every time I hear somebody say, oh, she's an alcoholic or something like that because that's ridiculous it's not that deep sometimes
Starting point is 00:54:21 when we get to this point where now we're just you're probably an alcoholic too like it's gotten so dare i say laissez-faire that attitude it might they might need this though in a weird way if they all just kind of say hey you're an alcoholic i'm an alcoholic you're an alcoholic if they're all alcoholics then that just kind of brings them back to an even playing field and they can't call each other out for different behaviors. Maybe they need this. It's like a pallet cleanser in a way. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:54:50 I'm just trying to think of ways that we can get out of talking about this. I know. I feel like I've had to talk about it in every episode of every show we're watching. I don't like talking about this all the time, guys, despite what you may think, but between Southern Charm and this, it's like, it's so low brow too, right? Which is really annoying. Like, shut up. Like, by the way, we love it when housewives get drunk and do dumb shit.
Starting point is 00:55:13 Yes. Because it's fun to watch. I'm not saying, oh my God, my Lord and Savior and my role model, Meredith Marks, is clearly fucked up. I want to do that this weekend. I'm going to have a Meredith Mark Saturday. Like, I'm not sitting here saying that. What I'm saying is, I like to watch them get a little rousey and a little fucked up when
Starting point is 00:55:31 they're on a trip in Greece. Now what you're going to do is you're going to create this cancel alcohol culture for houseclubs where they're going to be afraid to get drunk and do stupid shit. And then the show is going to go to the wayside because that is such a big part. it's a cornerstone of these Housewife franchises. So let's not do this right now, okay, guys. How about everybody's an alcoholic and we're okay with that? We move up.
Starting point is 00:55:52 Yeah, if that's how we can chalk this one up and move on from it, I agree. Maybe this is what needs to happen. So I'll get on board and I'll even help you with the argument. Yeah, for now. I'll help you with the argument because it does cause a lot of the he said, she said, finger pointing, you're an alcoholic, you're an alcoholic. People have to answer for the things that they've said about it because now at least who just did it, just called somebody an alcoholic.
Starting point is 00:56:17 Like, I never called her an alcoholic. It's like, what? Yeah. You just did. You literally just did. But you can now also say, it's like, oh, that's an issue. But when Whitney does it, that's not a problem. There you go.
Starting point is 00:56:28 So now we've leveled the playing field, perhaps. Sort of, hopefully. Just by being immature and stupid, we've leveled this, this playing field of pointing fingers at substance abuse. I'm okay with that. I'm all right with that. I can get a board. Maybe this is what we need to move on.
Starting point is 00:56:43 You might be right, because we get proof. positive of that because Bronwyn says, sorry, I want to move on for her part in this whole thing because she's the one that alluded to it originally, sorry, let's move on. Okay, cool. And we moved on for now. But we've reached some kind of semblance of moving on, at least on Bronwyn's standpoint, and that's where shit gets fucking nuts. Heather triples down and starts to praise Brittany. She's like, you know, Brittany actually has more accolades than a lot of other people here. It's like, what the hell are you doing? Are you that pissed that we're not talking about Lisa and Meredith anymore that you're going to try to incite violence by praising Brittany above these other women?
Starting point is 00:57:28 I mean, kind of funny, honestly, just because it's so outlandish. But like, what a wild thing to say. She's on Broadway, this, that, which I didn't know she was on Broadway. That's kind of cool. but that's another thing that's that's a ding on brittany it's like you have all these other things in your bag and all you talk about is fucking jared and being a bad bomb that's pretty stupid it's one of those situations where and i have a really hard time especially with housewife shows where i kind of want them to act differently than what would play out well for a housewife show because
Starting point is 00:57:58 what happens here by praising brittany and then alluding to the fact that she's got more accomplishments than the other women at the table it is very funny when they take offense to it It's really funny that Bromwin, Lisa, Meredith, they're all just touting their own experiences, all of the businesses that they've been running, all the money that they've made because they're now upset and threatened by the fact that Heather said that Brittany is also more well accomplished than the rest of them. That is really funny. However, normal situations, if it's Brittany that's being praised, you could laugh it off and crack a couple of jokes. And I actually would prefer a few jokes, but this is where I don't know, because good housewife culture, is taking offense to that and then just being in your own world, talking over everybody else about all the great things that you've been doing in your life
Starting point is 00:58:44 and all of your accomplishments. But it doesn't make any sense because any group setting that I've ever been in, if the idiot is getting praised, people are going to be cracking jokes at the other end of the table. And not one of them was cracking a joke. No one found this funny, which we're sitting at home. I would imagine 98% of the audience was cracking up at this, just because of the sheer stupidity of what was going on.
Starting point is 00:59:06 But the thing that no one in this group was even cracking a joke or a smile at this is really weird. And it shows you how out of touch they are. No, out of touch, yes. But I think the bigger thing it shows is how insecure they are. Correct. They all feel the need. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, I've got designer awards. I've got this.
Starting point is 00:59:26 I've got that. Who gives us shit, guys? We're all proud of you. For this to be the fight that gets them loud enough that eventually the restaurant has to close. That's really funny. that is incredibly funny and I don't know what do you think do you think they got kicked out or do you think the restaurant was actually closing I think the restaurant was closing but they would have allowed for them to powwow for a little longer if they were calm I think that they were
Starting point is 00:59:50 closing this group of ladies is getting really rowdy let's get them the hell out of here I don't want to deal with I'm done I'm clocking out I don't want to deal with this shit I want to go gallivant around Greece I get it dude go gallifant but and you getting one last shot in there like this is Greece where people just drink until the sun comes up let me just tell you something real quick Angie they drink until the sun comes up in every country known demand that's just people they do it here too they do it here it happened a lot especially for New Year
Starting point is 01:00:20 we just got through yeah guilty right here come on now but it's just still very funny that this is still every once in a while you get brought back into Angie trying to bring something up about Greece it's like we're in Greece we don't need to talk about Greece like that right now I disagree. Keep doing it. It makes me laugh every time. The one funny thing and potentially positive thing, again, I've already alluded to it in the alcoholic thing where it's like, okay, it causes other people to bring up the fact that they are not blameless in this either. You know what I mean? So the other thing that this does is get people to understand the hypocrisy of themselves once again. For example, Heather, I don't like pylons. Then stop trying to pile on to Lisa and Meredith. or do you her mouthpiece? No, I'm not her mouthpiece.
Starting point is 01:01:08 Well, Lisa's Meredith's mouth. Yes, a lot of your mouthpieces for other people in this group. No, you don't have to do that. Do I understand defending your friend? Yes, totally. Do I care if you do that? No, I don't. Lisa, if you want to defend Meredith, go right ahead.
Starting point is 01:01:20 Heather, if you want to defend your friend, go right ahead. Don't derail the conversation by feigning defense for Brittany because that's dumb. But it does allow for all of the ladies to hopefully see. they're not all going to see maybe one or two will understand it's like all of you at this table have done the same shit to each other this season you've said the same things you pointed fingers you've acted on other people's behalf stop it that's what could come from this dinner it will not that's not no will happen but it could i i i do get the feeling that at the end of this dinner because they got kicked out together and no one was really pointing fingers at why they were
Starting point is 01:01:59 getting kicked out which typically does happen they seem to all kind of get it they're all kind of laughing on the way out we have two straight episodes yes it doesn't feel like two straight episodes because it's been seven weeks but two straight episodes that ended with them kind of just clearing the air and going clean slate where something happens they move on maybe this is what we needed maybe this next episode because i think they're still in greece i guess they'll end in greece at this point for the season finale um and we'll probably get a cameras get picked up a couple weeks later because who the fuck knows Todd and Bromwin, maybe who knows.
Starting point is 01:02:33 Yeah, yep, yep, yep. I can't remember if that. I think that happened after the reunion, though. Yeah, that happened after the reunion. Either way, either way, we may have needed this because this group of women was in, they were just all in such disarray. They were going after each other.
Starting point is 01:02:48 They were doing stupid things, going after Meredith that was just completely fruitless. Maybe this is what they needed. Maybe this trip to Greece actually weirdly did bring people together, even though we've seen more chaos. fights and other trips. I don't know. Maybe this helped clear the air.
Starting point is 01:03:03 I think it did. We've seen chaotic fights, but not earth-shattering, friendship-ending fights. We've seen resolution, actually, in a lot of these verbal altercations that we've seen in Greece. So I don't know. Maybe this is what we needed. It was clumsy and dumb the way it was gone about. But sometimes clumsy, dumb shit leads to resolution. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:03:24 Who knows? Good work. It was a good episode. It's a great Lisa episode. She was great. Yeah. But we don't have questions because obviously it's been six months since this aired, but we are just chipping away at shit, getting back on track. We'll be fully up to speed this week, obviously, because we haven't seen anything in two weeks.
Starting point is 01:03:41 But buckle up, everybody. We got a big announcement coming soon. One and two, there is a big slate of shows headed your way. We have a lot of shit to cover for the next couple of months. So settle up, partners. It's going to be a wild ride. Hell yeah. Hell yeah, brother.
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